Music In My Shoes

E86 Rock Around the Clock, Back to the Future, and Athfest

Episode 86

Rock music's evolution unfolds through fascinating personal stories and historic milestones in this nostalgic journey across seven decades of American music. From Bill Haley's groundbreaking "Rock Around the Clock" hitting #1 in 1955, we travel through time exploring the authentic connections between fans and artists before security barriers existed.

The conversation weaves through the 40th anniversary of "Back to the Future." We explore how the movie's iconic "Johnny B. Goode" scene serves as both plot device and tribute to Chuck Berry's profound influence on rock music, creating a perfect time-travel metaphor that resonates even today.

Our musical journey continues with firsthand accounts from Athens' vibrant music scene at AthFest, where affordable wristbands unlock access to emerging talent with deep local connections. We share highlights from performances by T. Hardy Morris, The Bad Ends, Slightly Famous Somebodies, and Elijah Johnston, capturing the community spirit that makes regional music festivals so special. 

The episode celebrates additional music milestones including the Rolling Stones' "Satisfaction" hitting #1 sixty years ago with its revolutionary fuzz tone, Dave Grohl's remarkable one-man-band approach on the first Foo Fighters album, and U2's contribution to the Batman Forever soundtrack. These stories illustrate how music transcends time, connecting generations through shared cultural touchpoints that continue to influence how we experience music today. Whether you're a longtime fan or discovering these classics for the first time, you'll gain a deeper appreciation for the stories behind the songs that shaped American musical history.

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Speaker 1:

He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.

Speaker 2:

He's got the feeling and it's out there growing. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 86. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. Bill Haley and his Comets Rock Around the Clock becomes the first rock and roll song to reach number one on Billboard's pop charts on July 9th billboards pop charts on July 9th 1955. That's fantastic. One, two, three o'clock, four o'clock rock. That's 70 years ago, jimmy Right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean it's crazy and it's like before Elvis's that's Right, mama right, that's All Right, mama.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and and you know it's funny because I'm not saying it's the first rock song you know the first is always tough. What is the first?

Speaker 1:

of anything of anything.

Speaker 2:

You know it, was it I? What I think? Rocket 88 or?

Speaker 1:

something like that, to say rocket 88 that's from like 1949.

Speaker 2:

you know what you know? Was it big joe turner, or was it? Was it Ike Turner, or you know whoever? Uh-huh, big Mama, somebody, they say.

Speaker 1:

Big Maybel.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's it. That's it. You know who? I don't know. I really don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's all just. You know, a made-up name for music and people were making music like that for years and it just gradually started to get named and then people went back and said which one was the first one. Well, there wasn't really a first one.

Speaker 2:

Right, but there was a first number one rock and roll song and that is not a debate. So on a side note, back in 1957, my father saw Bill Haley and the Comets at Valley Arena in Holyoke, massachusetts. He was 15 years old and he remembers him and two of his friends going to the show, a guy named Chip and a guy named Dizzy, because in the 50s that was kind of the names that people would have, dizzy and Chip. You know it almost sounds like my three sons here it does. And after the show one of them says let's go backstage. And it was different back then. There wasn't security, there was nothing. And it was different back then. There wasn't security, there was nothing. And they just kind of walked off of the floor of the arena and opened some doors and they see a room that's got a star on it that says Bill Haley.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, that was their clue.

Speaker 2:

That was the clue. And my dad knocks on the door and Bill Haley answers. They're like hey, can we get some autographs? He invites them in. That's fantastic, yeah. And he says they were there about 10 minutes and they had their forearms signed. They had long-sleeved shirts on and I didn't ask him why, you know, was it wintertime or I don't know but they rolled up their sleeves and he signed their forearms.

Speaker 2:

And then somehow my dad seemed to notice a pack of cigarettes. All right, this is 1957, all right, the 50s were much different than what they are today. People had no idea that smoking was bad for you then. No, it was just a normal thing that everybody did, I think. And he says to Bill Haley, let's switch cigarettes and you autograph one of them for me. You know, he took one of Bill Haley's cigarettes and Bill Haley wrote his name on it. And he took two pieces of string and hung it from like each end of the cigarette and had it on the wall of his bedroom and he could look at it. And you know, bill haley, so I said to him, how long did it take before you smoked it? Because you knew there's no way it was going to last. And he said it was about seven or eight months later that he finally had to smoke it. He was out and he could not wait and he said it was kind of stale so it burnt really quick, he said. But I think it's a really cool story. You know, bill Haley and the Comets rock Around the Clock.

Speaker 2:

It was the original theme song for Happy Days, I think about the first season or so, and then I think they used it for the ending theme sometimes. You know, I don't remember exactly Great song. I like it. I like a lot of the 50s stuff. We've talked about it multiple times on the show. You know, growing up I heard tons of songs from the 50s and the 60s and over and over enough to be able to sing them and you could understand the words, so that you didn't have to look them up the way you do today to figure out what people are saying. This is true, not that you could have looked it up back in the day, but it could have been in like the newspaper or something.

Speaker 2:

Yes, there you go. But yeah, I think that's a really cool story. I like when you know we can talk about something and then there's some sort of connection with it. So my dad saw Bill Haley and the Comets and got to meet him after the show. He just kept saying it's not like today. No security. You just walked right up and you knocked on the door.

Speaker 1:

And he got two autographs and he washed one of them off and smoked the other one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he said it was about three days before he washed his arm. I did ask him that. He said it was about three days and so, yeah, they didn't last. They did not last. So 40 years ago, on July 3rd 1985, one of my favorite movies was released Back to the Future.

Speaker 1:

Great movie.

Speaker 2:

You've seen it. Yes, all right, I was a little concerned. I didn't know. You know I was thinking about this and I kind of said to somebody oh, I'm thinking about, talking about Back to the Future and the first thing they said do you think Jimmy's seen it?

Speaker 1:

Come on, guys, Back to the Future. And the first thing they said do you think Jimmy's seen it? Come on, guys, Back to the Future's in a totally different category than the Goonies.

Speaker 2:

Both released in 1985, 40 years ago. Yeah so, michael J Fox, marty McFly, christopher Lloyd as Doc Brown, leah Thompson as Lorraine part of the movie she's a 1955 teenager and the other part she's Marty's mom and you know it's just bizarre at times watching. You know the different scenes with her and what part she's playing. Crispin Glover as George McFly, which was Marty's dad. You know part of the movie he's a 1955 teenager. Like I said, the other part he's Marty's dad. And you can't forget Biff Tannen as both a 1955 teenager and George McFly's boss as an adult Movie starts in 1985, and it's, like you know, with, with a delorean car being a time machine built by doc and it's powered by plutonium that doc stole from some terrorist.

Speaker 2:

And then marty's in the delorean trying to get away and he reaches 88 miles per hour. And then the time travel becomes Marty's reality as he ends up in the town of Hill Valley, which was the town that he lived in, but it was on November 5th 1955. Right, and who knows, maybe Bill Haley and the Comets were getting ready to rock around the clock. We don't know, but you know, jimmy, did you know Marty McFly was originally played by Eric Stoltz? No, yes, they actually did five weeks of filming, but yes, seriously. So Eric Stoltz was the kid in mask. I love that movie. I saw that movie in the movie theaters. I want to say it came out 84, 85 as well. He was in some kind of wonderful. He was in a ton of movies that you know we could probably sit here. I think he was in Pulp Fiction, wasn't he?

Speaker 1:

He was. He was in that one brief scene where Uma Thurman ODs, I believe, and then he also had a bit part in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. He was one of the stoner friends of Spicoli.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and wasn't the dude from ER? Oh yeah, anthony Edwards was the other one, Anthony Edwards. He was in it also.

Speaker 1:

yes, yeah, you got some pretty good acting chops on those three stoner guys Sean Penn, eric Stoltz and Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, I forgot about that. So while he's a good actor I mean we just named a bunch of stuff he was in he just wasn't the type that they were looking for. They needed someone that was more aloof, kind of like Michael J Fox, kind of the character he played on Family Ties. They were looking more for that, and so they had to get rid of Eric Stoltz and they brought Michael J Fox in. I keep wanting to say, they brought in Marty McFly, but Marty McFly was played by both of them.

Speaker 2:

Huey Lewis and the News play the theme song the Power of Love. And I can't forget the big music scene where Biff's friends, you know, they lock Marty in the trunk of the band that's playing at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance and which happens to be November 12th 1955, and the guitarist cuts his hand. I think maybe they were using like a screwdriver or something to open up the trunk and he can't play. And now Marty is going to play the guitar and Marty is going to play the guitar. And it's just crazy because it's Marvin Berry and the Starlighters who's the band and they're playing Earth Angel.

Speaker 2:

And as they're playing Earth Angel, marty has like a picture of his brothers and sisters, brother and sister. He only had one brother and sister. And because George and Lorraine haven't kissed, now they're fading away from the picture. And now he's kind of losing all his strength and falling down. And all of a sudden they kiss and then, boom, they show up on the picture and Marty McFly stands right up and is just playing the chords. I mean, I just think that's cool it was very cool.

Speaker 2:

Especially for 1985. I thought it was really cool. You know technology or whatever you want to call it, what they were able to do. I liked it. And then bust into a rock and Johnny be good. Marvin Berry calls his cousin, chuck, on a payphone and he says something like you know the new sound you've been looking for. And he holds the phone up and Marvin says, listen to this, as he's doing. Johnny B Goode and Marty McFly is like doing the Chuck Berry duck walk and you know all the Chuck Berry stuff and I personally think it's a great tribute to Chuck Berry and you know, kind of like the reach of his influence that in 1985 they're making this film about 1955 and though, even though Chuck Berry didn't have that song out for a couple of years later, that's the song that they chose, that's what they wanted to represent kind of the times, and I think it's fantastic, I think it's a great tribute. I truly, truly do.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's a really good guitar song is one thing about it that a lot of 50s music like Elvis's music it was big on kind of an acoustic guitar or you know, an acoustic electric sounding guitar nothing, nothing too brash sounding, and a lot of other 50s music was just more vocally centered and Chuck Berry's music was always really guitar forward, which was similar to the way things were by the 80s, that everything was about guitars. So that was a great song for them to do and have Marty be able to play the guitar solos and then gradually segue into playing like Van Halen guitar solos that everybody wasn't ready for.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, and you know me personally, while music is not a competition, I would put Chuck Berry on first before I put Elvis on. And listening to you know his guitar riffs, his words, it just was super cool. It was super cool still in 1985, and it's still super cool to me in 2025.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, people are still using his licks.

Speaker 2:

You know stealing where they can, you know, I mean, it's the ultimate flattery when you can do something like that. So Michael J Fox didn't actually sing the song Johnny Be Good. Did you know that?

Speaker 1:

No, I figured that you know he probably didn't, but it's good to know.

Speaker 2:

Mark Campbell of Jack Mack and the Heart Attack did the singing. And on a side note, jack Mack and the Heart Attack had just finished playing a song in Atlanta on July 27th 1996, when the Olympic Park bombing took place, which I actually had just stepped out of the park when that had happened. That's another story for another day. But it just shows you what a small world it is that the person singing for Marty McFly in 1985 then also is at the same place I was at in 1996. So Back to the Future is a great comedy. Film stands the test of time. I could watch it a hundred times. I'm sure I have. We actually watched Back to the three in a row how you were just all over. You were going back in time, forward in time, sideways in time. It was fun.

Speaker 1:

I love those movies. I especially like one and two. I think. One is just probably on my all-time top ten movies and two was a really great sequel. 3 was like okay, yeah, you guys finished the trilogy and you went back to the Old West, but it didn't stand up to the other two in my opinion. But it was nice.

Speaker 2:

You know what they say, we're going back to the future. So recently Jimmy and I, along with Jimmy's family, some friends, we went to a music festival here Well, not here, we're in Atlanta, but we actually went down the road a ways. In Athens, georgia, we went to AthFest and it's a musical festival where it's not like these big, huge names but a lot of artists that might have a connection first to Athens and it was super cool, both indoor shows, outdoor shows. Outdoor was during the day, indoor was at night, outdoor shows were free and then the indoor shows it was $30.

Speaker 2:

For what was it? Three days, Jimmy Right, yeah, yeah, I mean so it's a steal, it's a great deal. We had a meal. I'm just on a rhyme there. I just thought I needed to do something like that, but I just thought it was super cool. I mean, Jimmy, I know you've gone, you know multiple times your thoughts on it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's so fun and I love that it's. You know, they make it affordable so anybody can go. You can just go to the outdoor stages if you want, and it's all free, but if you want to get the club crawl pass, that's so fun to do because you might just want to go catch a few songs of this person or just go see one set at this one venue and then go to another place and you can bounce around four or five different places in a night and just your little wristband gets you in and, like you said, it's 30 bucks for the whole weekend.

Speaker 2:

And you can't beat it. Some of the bands that I like T Hardy Morris I thought they did a fantastic cover of Keep On Rockin' in the Free World, the Neil Young song Loved it, and it seemed as they were playing, as T Hardy Morris was playing, and each song it seemed like there was another person coming on stage and by the end of the show the stage was packed with people playing and I loved it. I just liked that. Hey, let's do this, let's try this. You know, I think when you're doing this type of setting, you don't have to worry about pleasing anybody, like people are just happy to be there. And a ton of people are there that have never even heard you and it was just cool watching what they were doing.

Speaker 2:

Slightly famous somebodies. They have a bunch of people that are slightly famous in their own way, whether they play, you know, in another band or they've been a producer or they have acted. You know they all have something that they've done. They were a lot of fun. I really enjoyed seeing them. They all have something that they've done. They were a lot of fun, I really enjoyed seeing them.

Speaker 1:

The Bad Ends, which is Mike Mantioni from 5'8".

Speaker 2:

From 5'8" His band, you know. I thought they did a really good job. It was good seeing them play.

Speaker 1:

And Bill Barry from REM got up and played a song with them.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he did. What was some of the bands you liked?

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, I liked T Hardy Morris with him. Yes, he did. What was, uh, some of the bands you liked, well, I, yeah, I like t hardy morris. I I really liked um hefner were probably my favorites and we saw them on on saturday night they played. They headlined at the 40 watt. They kind of have a different sound, you know. They're uh like we talked about. I think some of their stuff is a little more up my alley. What I was expecting as far as um kind of indie rock and then some of it it's a little more Americana sounding with layered vocals and stuff, and that was great too. But it was kind of surprising to see that that same band played all that stuff. Um also really liked Elijah Johnston.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, I did, I did as well. And in all honesty, out of all of the bands that we saw, now we didn't see all the same bands. I know you know you went your separate ways at times, I went my separate ways, but we did see a lot of the same bands. I thought that that band well, that guy he packed the place at the 40 Watt and people were just into it. I think he had a real solid audience there.

Speaker 2:

He did, yeah, and you met some of the parents of one of the people yes, guy playing bass met the parents and it was funny because we have some common people that we know and it was just kind of strange how it all worked out, but it was a fun time.

Speaker 1:

Another band that was good was Polar Waves. That was fans of the show Robert and Kathy's friend that's the band leader there that works at Chuck's in Athens and I thought they were going to be good, but they were really good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was surprised at how well he sounded. I mean, he sounded really good. I mentioned to you he sounded a little bit like Gavin Rossdale on some songs of Bush. For those of you asking who that is, I love their cover of Love Buzz. I thought Love Buzz by Nirvana, I thought it was fantastic and I've not heard a lot of covers of it but I liked it it's good to like things.

Speaker 2:

It is good to like things, and you know what else, jimmy. I'll tell you what else I like. I was at Truist Park recently and Truist Park is where the Atlanta Braves play their home baseball games. Got to see a New York Mets at Atlanta Braves and one of my favorite things to do is that when the away team comes up to bat, the organist will play a song, and you got to kind of guess what it is relating to that player. Now, they don't do it with the home players, they just do it with the guests, right? So Francisco Lindor first batter he comes up and the first time he's up he plays Candyman. And now I like, when you have a ballpark that has an organist, I just think that's super cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Lindor Chocolates.

Speaker 2:

Lindor Chocolates Candyman by Sammy Davis Jr. And then the second time he's up, he plays the Oompa Oompa from you know Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

Speaker 2:

It's just cool, you know. Brandon Nimmo so kind of did a takeoff of Bingo Was His Name-O, because it was N-I-M-M-O, you know. So it took me a minute to figure that one out. Juan Soto, so let's kind of set the thing here. Juan Soto just signed the biggest contract I think in sports, for over $700 million for 15 years. The first time he came up on Oregon, the guy played You're so Vain by Carly Simon. The second time was the Darth Vader theme and then the third time was Take the Money and Run by Steve Villarvan. I was just laughing.

Speaker 2:

Pete Alonso, here Comes Peter Cottontail Starling Marte, Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star. Tyrone Taylor, theme from Andy Griffith for Andy and Opie Taylor Right. Francisco Alvarez Sitting on the Dock of the Bay by Otis Redding, which is about San Francisco and San Francisco. Be Sure to Wear Flowers in your Hair. By Scott McKenzie. And it's cool listening to it on organ. You know it's not the regular song, it's organ. This dude's playing it. It's fun. And then the last one I have here is Ronnie Mauricio, the Ronettes with Be my Baby, lead singer Ronnie Spector. It was fun. I had a lot of fun listening to the Mets Lost, but it was fun trying to figure out what those songs were.

Speaker 1:

So when the Braves are not playing at home and it's college baseball season, that same organist goes up to Athens and he plays the Georgia home games Really, and he does the same thing with the player names. So it's fun.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow, that is cool. Yeah, I like that. Let's revisit some more good music. Rolling Stone's Satisfaction peaked at number one on Billboard Hot 100, july 10th 1965, 60 years ago. One of the greatest riffs of all time. In 2021, it ranked number 31 on Rolling Stone Magazine's the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. And the sound that we know when it starts off Gibson Maestro FZ-1 fuzz tone. Have you ever used one of those, jimmy? I have not. Have you used any sort of those, jimmy? I have not. Have you used any sort of fuzz box?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, that's the one. And by the end of the year I think it was the number one seller, because everyone wanted to be the Rolling Stones. Tick, tick, tick. It's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy. Minute with.

Speaker 1:

Jimmy minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. I'm going to talk a little bit about a tour that my band, the Violets, did back in 1990. We called it Tour 90.

Speaker 1:

And we had played around the southeast a little bit. We mainly stayed in Athens, georgia and Atlanta but we had gone and done a show here and there in other towns. But we said let's go out for like a week and a half and just play all over. So we went to Pensacola, florida and Charleston, south Carolina, columbia, south Carolina, johnson City, tennessee.

Speaker 1:

That was the best, because when we went to Greenville, south Carolina, the club had been boarded up by the fire marshal. We never found out exactly why, but we couldn't play there. So we drove to Johnson City an extra day early and we met all these cool people at the place that we were going to play the next night and they brought a bunch of people out the next night to see us and we ended up going back there multiple times. But you know it was a really fun tour. I think we might've made it to Raleigh on that same one and we also met a band when we were playing in Charleston called the Insurgents, and that's the guy that we still put out records with. He still owns a record store in DC now, bill Daly. So yeah, so it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2:

I bet it was. So. How long did it take you to come up with the tour name of Tour 90?

Speaker 1:

I think we bounced a few things around and you know, 89 felt a little bit last year, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

You asked, you asked. Oh, my lord, I bet that was I. Seriously I bet that was a lot of fun and going to a club and it's boarded up wow so you have to be glad that you didn't play there, right well, the band that had played there the final night.

Speaker 1:

It was still on their marquee it said national people's gang. Have you ever heard of that band?

Speaker 2:

Never.

Speaker 1:

They were around in 1990, apparently. But so we decided we would rearrange the letters on their marquee to really show the club that they weren't nice to us by not calling us to say, hey, don't bother driving to town because we got boarded up by the fire marshal. So we wanted to put something on that marquee out of those letters from national people's gang. And you really can't come up with anything, uh, clever or offensive out of those letters very well. So we just ended up putting poop up onto up onto the marquee I had a million things go through my mind.

Speaker 1:

That was not one of them.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Wow, Wow, you got me with that one. That was A Minute with Jimmy, A Minute with Jimmy. On July 4th 1995, the Foo Fighters released their debut self-titled album. Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana and after Kurt Cobain's suicide in April 1994, he was trying to figure out where he was going to go next. What direction is he, you know? Is he going to become a drummer for another band? What is he going to do? Become a drummer for another band, what is he going to do? And he ends up doing this album where he plays all the instruments except for one song. He does everything himself and it's an album that I think is just absolutely fantastic. I struggle with a lot of albums that people do by themselves because it's their one vision. That's it. And I think that sometimes you need someone else to say to you that doesn't sound good or you know that is not the right base for this.

Speaker 1:

Or just come up with another idea that you wouldn't have come up with.

Speaker 2:

Right. And I think when you listen to this album you know for the most part I don't think you think that at all, you think that it's an actual band, because I really think he did a great job with all of the instruments. If you sit and listen to each individual instrument you're like, yeah, this makes sense, this goes together. He had the guy from the Afghan Whigs did a guitar part on Ecstatic, the song Ecstatic, but that was it. Everything else was from him. And you know Paul McCartney, he did a solo album 1980. It's not very good album 1980. It's not very good. It had all of his vision of what he wanted and nobody else. And you know we talked about it a little bit coming up. The live version is much better when you have this band Wings doing it than when you listen to the studio version. That was just his. I love Paul McCartney but I just think this album was fantastic. I really really do.

Speaker 2:

This Is A Call was released to radio in June 1995. There's I'll Stick Around For All the Cows. And Big Me is probably, you know, known for the video where it's poking fun at the Mentos commercial, and do you remember that video?

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, okay yeah, that's the song Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's the song that it came from. I just think it's cool, I think it's a really good album and to think that here, 30 years later, foo Fighters are still around. They actually became a band once. They started touring with uh mike watt in 1995 and then he started pulling members in and then that's how they became a real band. But that first album, it's all him. I just can't say enough about it. I really can't.

Speaker 2:

You two, hold me, thrill me, kiss me. You Too, hold Me, thrill Me, kiss Me, kill Me. I love the album title and it takes a lot for me to remember the order it goes Hold Me, thrill Me, Kiss Me, kill Me. Like I would always sing it in different orders. I could never remember it, but it peaked at number 16 on Billboard Hot 100 July 15, 1995. It's from the Batman Forever soundtrack. It's got a cool guitar riff intro, it's got cool guitar throughout the song and then a cool string arrangement to end the song. And I just think that U2, you know this was a cool rock song that they hadn't had out in a while and it was really good to hear it after some of the stuff that they had been putting out, you know, the past few years, really enjoyed it. Oh no, don't be shy, you don't have to go blind. Hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me. And before you do that, you can reach us at musicinmyshoes at gmailcom. Kiss me, kill me.

Speaker 2:

Episode 86 of Music in my Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of RK160 Studios located here in Atlanta, georgia, and Vic Thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing.

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