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E100 From Stones vs. The Who to Prince vs. Bowie: Our Ultimate Rock Face‑Off
A listener’s mailbag turns into a rapid-fire set of rock face-offs as we celebrate 100 episodes, relive moments from the show, and crack up at studio bloopers. We end with gratitude, a look at global listeners, and a simple truth: the music keeps us here.
• Stones over the Who for longevity and range
• Led Zeppelin’s blues power vs Aerosmith’s early punch
• Pink Floyd’s concept mastery vs Queen’s showmanship
• Eagles’ guitar craft vs Fleetwood Mac’s radio gold
• ACDC’s consistency vs Van Halen’s eras
• Tom Petty’s steady 80s line vs Springsteen’s stamina
• Def Leppard’s teen‑era imprint vs Scorpions’ singles
• Rush’s precision over Yes’s gloss
• Styx memories vs Kansas staples
• Nirvana’s cultural break vs Foo Fighters’ endurance
• Jagger archetype vs Tyler disciple
• Plant’s thunder vs Freddie’s crowd command
• Morrison’s magnetism vs Daltrey’s polish
• Billy Joel’s authorship vs Elton John’s catalog
• Prince’s virtuosity vs Bowie’s reinvention
• Blooper reel highlights and shared laughter
• Minute with Jimmy gratitude and partnership
• Audience reach across 73 countries and 1,055 cities
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Previously on music in my shoes. Hey, this is Kevin McKinney from Driving and Crying.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, this is David Lowry from Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven. This is Mitch Easter from Less Active. This is my Sharona. This is Ian from APB. And this is George from APB. This is Ted Ansani from Material Issue. This is John King of Gang of Four.
SPEAKER_03:Hello, this is Hugo Baron from Gang of Four. And this is Ricky from Chute. Hi, I'm Eppy from my father's place at the Roslin Hotel. This is Jess, and this is Jade from Hotel Fiction.
SPEAKER_02:I'm Jim. I'm Jimmy. And I'm Jimmy Barron. And you're listening to Music My Dude. Yes, episode 100. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. So, Jimmy, I want to start off by going straight into Music in My Shoes Mailbag Time. Alright, Music in My Shoes Mailbag. So, listener Robert in Hartwell, Georgia writes, I have a little game I'd like you two to play since music is a competition.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh.
SPEAKER_02:Both of you picked your favorite in the below head-to-head battles. I've got to say, this is a pretty cool idea. When I read this, I was like, man, this is like, this is definitely leadoff material.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I think Robert really put some effort and some time into it when thinking of who to have, you know, battling each other. All right. Thanks, Robert. Let's get into the list. So, you know, there's no right or wrong because music is not a competition, even though Robert says it is. It is a competition, I guess, if we're picking who we think is the better. True. So, Jimmy, Rolling Stones versus the Who.
SPEAKER_00:Hmm. Yeah. Um I would say definitely the Rolling Stones, because they had more longevity. I think the Rolling Stones were better for longer. I think there were time periods where the Who was better than the Rolling Stones. But I don't think that the Who continued to put out good stuff as long as the Rolling Stones did.
SPEAKER_02:Did I mention the Who was on their 32nd final farewell tour?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Right? Like I learned how to play guitar the first time I ever played in front of people was at a talent show at high school, and I learned summertime blues off of the album Who's Last? That was their last album from their last tour. And no, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_02:No, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_00:That was 1985 at that time.
SPEAKER_02:So for me, and I think you know my answer, Jimmy. Real quick, I don't even have to think. It's Rolling Stones. Like immediately, I would say the Rolling Stones. And I look at their work, all the different types of music that they've done. If you look through all the different decades and how sometimes they would be able to morph into what was happening at the time, but other times they were leaders. And if you look at the early 70s with the who, you know, not just the early 70s. If you look at 68, 60s, you know, really, I guess 69 to through the early 70s, and you put the who and the Rolling Stones together, music was just incredible. Absolutely incredible at that time.
SPEAKER_00:Aaron Powell And what was that that movie that they made that never got released that had the who and the Rolling Stones in it?
SPEAKER_02:It was called the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus.
SPEAKER_00:Aaron Powell Yeah. So I mean they were definitely friends and contemporaries and were pushing each other, I think, in a certain way.
SPEAKER_02:Aaron Powell Yeah, I think one of the reasons they didn't release it is the Who did a much better job, but that's because they played early in the evening and the Rolling Stones stayed up over 24 hours before they actually tried to perform. We know that that generally doesn't work out well. True. Led Zeppelin versus Aerosmith.
SPEAKER_00:Aaron Powell Well, for me, I mean it's an easy Led Zeppelin. I I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan. I like I like kind of the hits. I like the I like the first album really. I don't even know if I like the hits. I I don't like the like the late the 80s hits that they had, but I I like the first album. I like Dream On and that stuff. And and maybe Toys in the Attic, yeah. Soys in the Attic is a good album. That's that's what I think. Led Zeppelin, like every album has great songs on it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and you know, I agree. And I I think I like Aerosmith more than you do. Led Zeppelin, I just think is much better. And it's no disrespect towards Aerosmith. Uh just what Led Zeppelin did and what Led Zeppelin kind of turned me on to blues, yeah, they they kind of ripped off some of the stuff, but it was stuff that I got exposed to that I never would have been had they not done it.
SPEAKER_00:Aaron Powell Yeah. I mean, hey, mm music's all about borrowing things and they they made it their own.
SPEAKER_02:Aaron Ross Powell So instead of saying music is not a competition, we're just gonna go with music is borrowing?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It's like a cup of sugar, yeah, sure. I think it's a cup of sugar. Yeah, you borrow an egg and then they borrow a cup of sugar.
SPEAKER_02:I got it. I got it. I like it. With that, let's move on. Pink Floyd versus Queen.
SPEAKER_00:Ah, okay. You know, I I like Queen and I like uh why don't you go first on this one? I keep going first.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Pink Floyd. I I don't even have to think about it. It's just that quick. Pink Floyd to me, when you look at the Sid Barrett days from the late 60s, and then once he was out of the band and Roger Waters was really doing everything and the albums that came out, and you know, David Gilmore, his guitar work and the vocals when Roger would let him, you know, it's just fantastic. I don't have anything against Queen, and I've been accused of that multiple times. You know, I like some of their stuff. I'm just not a huge Queen fan.
SPEAKER_00:I'm I'm the same way. I like their stuff. Um, I I got to see them, but you know, of course, not with Freddie Mercury. I saw them uh several years ago, and they were they put on a great show, they have a lot of really good songs, but Pink Floyd were so original. And uh, yeah, of course, the Queen was original too, but Pink Floyd, there was nothing like that music, and they did those records that really had a story arc that flowed through the whole record, and they they just really uh uh broke a lot of ground and made a lot of great music. So I'm saying Pink Floyd as well.
SPEAKER_02:There you go. Eagles versus Fleetwood Mac. I'll go first. So I'm not a huge Eagles fan. I love Joe Walsh. I like some of the Eagles stuff. I love Hotel California. Love Hotel California. I think it's that's in my top hundred songs of all time. Love that song. But as a whole, you know, I'm not a huge Eagles fan. Fleetwood Mac brings me back to when I was younger as a kid, and all the songs that they would play on the radio. If I hear that, it just brings me back to that time. And I just kind of like all of that. And it just seemed that they were just coming out with something all the time. I didn't like Desperado by the Eagles. That just wasn't my thing. What was it, New Kid in Town? That just wasn't my thing. Fleetwood Mac had a lot more songs that I liked.
SPEAKER_00:That's a really good point. You know, Fleetwood Mac had a lot more kind of classic rock, and and some of the Eagles songs did veer into easy listening or something. What do you call New Kid in Town? You know, it's kind of yeah. Um, but I am I'm a pretty big Eagles fan. I love their I love their rock songs, you know, things like Already Gone and Hotel California. I think that's one of the best guitar solos in in the business. And so I think, yeah, the the Eagles, the quality of guitar players they had, starting with Joe Walsh, but also Don Felder, everybody they've had since then. I mean, they've of course Glenn Fry was no slouch, and now they've got Vince Gill that plays with them when they tour, and he's amazing. But um, yeah, as a as a big guitar fan, I would definitely take those guys over Lindsay Buckingham, and I'm taking the Eagles over Fleetwood Mac.
SPEAKER_02:You heard it here first. Sounded like you were Jimmy the Greek and you were making some prediction for some big game or something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, hey, uh I've got a 900 number if uh anybody wants to pay. It's only$3 a minute, and I'll tell you uh all my picks for other artists.
SPEAKER_02:I forgot about that, but isn't it funny? That's kind of what Fleetwood Mac reminds me of. You know, I bring up Jimmy the Greek, you know, he was on uh CBS Sunday football, and you know, like you said, kind of making picks and telling you who he thought was, you know, gonna be the big winner or whatever, and there was one 900 numbers where you would call and they would give you their picks and you know, guaranteed winners and and so forth. So there's no guaranteed winners here, but ACDC versus Van Halen.
SPEAKER_00:I'm ACDC all day long.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, me too. I like Van Halen. I like Van Halen a lot. But when you put that like that, it's ACDC. And it's ACDC whether it's Bon Scott or whether it's Brian Johnson on vocals, it's straight up ACDC for me.
SPEAKER_00:Aaron Powell And and then also for me, it's only David Lee Roth. Like I'm not a fan at all of Van Hagar.
unknown:Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm a big David Lee Roth fan. Last year I saw Sammy Hagar. He was doing the best of both worlds tour. We talked about it. And I like some of his solo stuff. I you know, different things that he's done. He did some of the stuff he did with uh Van Halen. You know, it was a good show. I really enjoyed it, but I do prefer David Lee Roth.
unknown:Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
SPEAKER_00:Not these days, but back in his day, he he was great.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he was. Bruce Springsteen versus Tom Petty.
SPEAKER_00:You go.
SPEAKER_02:Tom Petty. I'm not a big Bruce Springsteen fan. I grew up in New York. Everybody seemed to be huge Bruce fans. Like from all the early albums, even as we were young kids, people were just like the boss, Bruce Springsteen. And I tend when people are just so much into something like that, those turn those things kind of turn me off. And I don't really go to it. Now, I I've been to a Bruce Springsteen concert. We talked about it before. I tried to save a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship in like 1988 or something. And I like some of the songs that he sings, but I'm not a huge fan by any means. And Tom Petty has so many songs I don't even think I can remember all of them.
SPEAKER_00:True. I have a lot of respect for Bruce Springsteen. You know, he's he's a really good songwriter. He's like he puts on amazingly long shows for people still. I think he he'll play for four hours and stuff. So I mean, I think that's really cool that he he still loves playing that much. But I'm with you. I mean, Tom Petty. And the great thing about Tom Petty, and this is kind of true of Bruce too, is like so many rock artists changed in the 80s to get that 80s sound and be poppier. And you know, even the cars, even uh certainly, you know, Jefferson airplane turned into Starship, and they did that song that we will not mention. But Springsteen and Tom Petty both just stayed true to their roots through the through the 80s, more so Petty, though. You know, Tom Petty never put out an embarrassing song in the 1980s that I can think of.
SPEAKER_02:No, not at all.
SPEAKER_00:And the only other artist really that comes to mind that kind of was steadfast with rock and roll was uh was John Mellencamp. And that's that's how scarce good like classic rock was on the radio in the mid 80s. That those were like the three guys that were still putting it out, and everybody else was either doing pop or or hair metal or you know, so anyway, yeah. Uh Tom Petty. I saw Tom Petty probably 2005 or something like that at what was then Phillips Arena, and he put on a really good show, but he had no video screens. It was like you were at a concert in 1977. It was just the guys on the stage with some lights, and it was it was unusual even for for 2005 to not have any video screens, and but he sounded really good.
SPEAKER_02:I'm sure it was cheaper to do the show, do the tour.
SPEAKER_00:Well, now that you mention it, I went because I like Tom Petty, but I also went because we got some sort of deal. I think I worked at Turner then, and I think because Turner, the company that owned Turner, also owned Phillips Arena at the time. We got some sort of employee thing where I think it was like 20 bucks or something, like, hey, the show's tonight. You want a ticket to Tom Petty for 20 bucks? So my wife and I went.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you can't turn that down, Tom Petty. I I saw Tom Petty, I think the first time was probably 87, and that was in New York at Jones Beach. Uh I think it was 91. I saw Tom Petty at Lakewood Amphitheater, and then I saw him two more times, the last time being at Music Midtown in 2004, maybe.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, Tom Petty died uh sadly in 2017, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I wish I had gone to see he did, I think, his 40th anniversary tour, and then he uh then he passed away. So if we move on with our list, and I like this list, I think this is pretty cool. Gives us an opportunity to talk about different things.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Scorpions versus Def Leopard.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I I have can can I abstain? I don't know. Uh I will say, okay, the Def Leppard came out with Pyromania. Wasn't that the name of the album?
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:Pyromania came out when I was in the eighth grade. Eighth grade, high school started in the eighth grade at that time in Atlanta. And so I was in high school as this sub-freshman, and that album was hot, and everybody listened to it, and I really enjoyed it, you know, as an eighth grader. And then I I never really stuck with them, but I never got into the Scorpions really at all. I mean, Rocky Like a Hurricane, right? I think that was the that was one, and that probably came out that same year. So uh I'll I'll go Def Leopard.
SPEAKER_02:I like it. I think before that album, they had an album that had one song on it, Bringing On the Heartache. Oh, yeah. Bringing on the heartbreak, bringing on the heartaches. I can't remember. And I thought that song was pretty cool. Pretty pretty cool rock song. And they just kind of got better, but then they started to get into that 80s pop thing, you know, kind of like you were talking about, where they kind of changed. And I know they had to change a little bit with Rick Allen when he lost his arm in the car accident and they had to do some electronic drums. But, you know, it just kind of changed, you know, by the time they got to pour some sugar on me and everything, but I'll still take Def Leppard over the Scorpions as a whole. Agreed. Rush versus Yes. I'm gonna go rush. It's just quick. I have always liked yes, listened to them a lot when I was younger because my uncle listened to them. And when I would go to my grandparents' house, I would hear them a lot in, you know, the early mid-70s. But I think when you just look at Rush and the overall work and uh the type of music that it is, that type of rock, I like much better than I do the overall of yes. The 90125 album, I was a senior in high school and listened to that to a ton, you know, definitely much different than what they had done. Shorter songs, definitely more poppy, very different from their early 80s stuff that um or not just early 80s, but 70s stuff that they had done. But I'm gonna go with Rush.
SPEAKER_00:I'm with you too, and I'm gonna go back to uh the skating rink in the sixth grade, and Tom Sawyer was out at that point, which you know what was that maybe about 1980, 81. And I I enjoyed Tom Sawyer and the other songs that were on that record. I never got too deep into Rush, but I never got into yes whatsoever. So it's Rush.
SPEAKER_02:Modern Day Warrior. Sticks vs. Kansas.
SPEAKER_00:Well, this is going downhill fast. Um I've seen Sticks twice.
SPEAKER_02:I've seen Sticks once. They played after Braves game, Mets played the Braves. Yeah. And they played in the infield.
SPEAKER_00:Have they done that more than once? Because I was there.
SPEAKER_02:I I don't know that they have, but I was I had great seats and went to it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we I was like dugout level, and we were with some friends that are big Styx fans, and we had been to Sticks with them at Lakewood a few years earlier. So this was probably 2009 or something like that. Is that when you think it was?
SPEAKER_02:Uh quite possibly, yes. I took my in-laws because my father-in-law was a huge Styx fan, and I had seats, I had gotten seats behind the Mets dugout, and so we were real close on the third base side, and I remember them saying, uh, for the concert, if you're sitting here or here or here, you gotta move, and just remembering it doesn't matter because I know we don't have to move. And they did a great, great show. I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_00:So I as a little kid, uh Come Sail Away was out. I want to say, you know, that was like 1976 or something, right? That was pretty early that that song was out, and I loved that song, just it took you on a journey, you know. It was one of those songs like Band on the Run that kind of has all these different parts, and like, wow, this is still the same song. So I I enjoyed that, and uh I was not really a Mr. Roboto fan, but that's one of those earworms you can't get out of your head sometimes.
SPEAKER_02:Um I agree with you on that. For me, for Kansas, it would be carry on my wayward son. Like it that just seemed to be something as I got older and you were with people and they were doing something like, Oh, carry on my wayward son. You know, like you just you know say it as a saying type thing, and you know, dust in the wind. And I hated that song. All we are is dust in the wind.
SPEAKER_00:It was so depressing. I'm like, ugh. Really? That's all we are?
SPEAKER_02:It really was.
SPEAKER_00:Um, so I I do like that Will Farrell does he sings a Kansas song in a lot of his movies. Have you known that? I did not realize that. I think in old school, when when the old man that's in their fraternity dies, like mud wrestling or something, I think he sings Dust in the Wind. Uh, but he might sing Carry On Wayward Son. He he does several movies he sings Kansas songs in.
SPEAKER_02:Blue's my boy.
SPEAKER_00:Blue's my boy. That's right.
SPEAKER_02:So Styx Kansas, I think that we're at a tie. Um, I'm going sticks. Are you? Yeah. You know what? For my father-in-law, who's no longer with us, who loved Sticks, and the last show that he went to see Sticks in his wheelchair and was trying to rock out as best he could, I got that shirt. I'm gonna go with Sticks.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, Kansas does have a relation here because the house that I play at at Virginia Highlands Porch Fest used to be the lead singer's house.
SPEAKER_02:I did not know that. Yeah. Wow.
SPEAKER_00:And he built um, there's apparently Hopefully not this city, like a studio in the basement that they the owners now don't use it for that. But he built out a studio and he has like a rotunda in the front where he had his piano. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Wow. I did not know that. I learned something like that.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, Kansas. I picked sticks, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:All right, let's move on. Foo Fighters versus Nirvana.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, Robert's. This is this is starting to get in Robert's territory here, I have a feeling. Uh I am a bigger Nirvana fan than a Foo Fighters fan. I really appreciate what Dave Grohl does. He puts on an amazing show. He's kind of like single-handedly helped keep rock and roll going on a large scale. Like, how many other big touring rock bands can you think of that are like the Foo Fighters? They've really endured. So hats off to him. Nirvana was short-lived, but I just thought what they did and what Kurt Cobain's songwriting did just flipped music on its head and and really made a difference and changed things. So I'm going Nirvana.
SPEAKER_02:I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, to me, it's not even close. It's Nirvana, hands down, right away. I agree with you from seeing the Foo Fighters. Like when I was there, I felt like I was at an old-time rock and roll concert. And I appreciate that. But in this case, Nirvana, Nirvana, Nirvana. Yep. Mick Jagger versus Steven Tyler.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, we're going back to the Aerosmith well. Definitely Mick Jagger. Mick Jagger. So there is there is a famous picture. You know the one I'm talking about? Of Steven Tyler early on in the Aerosmith's career, and he's wearing a shirt, one of those with the iron-on letters that you can tell they made it themselves. Yeah. You know, Spencer gifts at the mall. And it says, Who the hell is Mick Jagger? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Robert Plant versus Freddie Mercury. I'm sure you know that Mick Jagger was for me. Robert Plant versus Freddie Mercury. Robert Plant being the lead singer of Led Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_00:Well, this is interesting because didn't we do Led Zeppelin versus Queen? Or was that a different matchup?
SPEAKER_02:I'm going to have to look. I don't remember. I didn't. It was Led Zeppelin Arrow Smith and Pink Floyd versus Queen. Now we're doing Robert Plant versus Freddie Mercury.
SPEAKER_00:You know, for some weird reason, I'm going to go Freddie Mercury. I think that he was just such an amazing front man. I think people still copy him to this day, his his vocal style, his way that he layered vocals, the way that he brought things from musical theater into rock and roll and made it work and made made this kind of more grand music out of it. And the way that he could control a crowd was unprecedented. I'm sure Robert Plant was good at it too, but he was a little more self-absorbed. I think Freddie Mercury was a lot more extroverted on stage and like really connecting the audience. He did that whole Deo thing. Right. And people like, you know, Billy Joe Armstrong still does that every show.
SPEAKER_02:I hear what you're saying, but I've got to go with Robert Plant. I getcha. It's been a long time since I rock and roll, and that's it. Just listen to the rest of it. He was a fantastic front man for rock at a time, you know, that rock was a big, big thing. And I love it. Roger Daltrey versus Jim Morrison. I think this is the most intriguing out of everything that we've talked about. Very, very different. Roger Daltrey, lead singer of the Who. Jim Morrison, lead singer of the doors.
SPEAKER_00:What do you think?
SPEAKER_02:I love Jim Morrison. Okay? I say that I love the Who. I don't think I've ever said I love Roger Daltrey. Yeah. I love Jim Morrison. Just his voice, his poetry that he would break out while they were doing concerts and songs, you know, his antics. I have to go Jim Morrison.
SPEAKER_00:Again, somebody that the audience, every, you know, 15,000 people in that arena couldn't take their eyes off of him because he had that connection with the audience. And to me, Daltrey's more like, oh, he's a singer. It's almost like he's on a TV show or something, you know? Like he kind of just struts around and sings into his microphone.
SPEAKER_02:And he always looks so good all the time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right. He's so such a pretty boy. He's a what they call a teddy boy over there in England.
SPEAKER_02:Is that what they call him?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That was the punks versus the teddies were the big uh riots, and the teddies all like the who.
SPEAKER_02:Oh. Jim Morrison was the lizard king, and he was very charismatic. You know, if you ever watch him do an interview, you just watch him sing, and you never knew what you were gonna get on any given night. Never knew. Billy Joel versus Elton John.
SPEAKER_00:Huh. Okay. Um Billy Joel, his early stuff, he really wrote his own songs, he wrote his own lyrics, and created something that I of course he was a piano player, and and Elton John had done that earlier than him. But I think Billy Joel was really original in the style that he was doing, and he was writing both his lyrics and the music. Now, Elton John wasn't writing lyrics, and when he did attempt to write lyrics in the 80s, they weren't very good. He needed Bernie Taupin to write the lyrics, so that's one markdown for Elton. Um the problem is I probably like more Elton John's songs than I do Billy Joel songs. And and Billy Joel in the eight, like Uptown Girl is annoying to me. I'm still standing's annoying, but I don't know if it's as annoying as Uptown Girl, so I'm going Elton John.
SPEAKER_02:I guess that's why the Call with the Blues, I think, is one of the greatest songs of all time. And it is, I think a song that came out when it came out, it was a song that I kind of needed at that point in time, you know, really could relate to the words and everything. And the fact that it was kind of like Elton's definitely back now. You know, he had been gone for a number of years with those bad records and trying to write his own songs. Billy Joel, you know, I grew up on Long Island. Billy Joel was a huge part of, you know, local radio, and you heard him all the time. Like I don't remember not hearing Billy Joel on the radio and have seen Billy Joel more times than I can count. Well, I've seen Elton John a ton. I've seen Elton John and Billy Joel together play a show.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's right. They used to do the uh dueling piano thing.
SPEAKER_02:And it's so difficult to try and pick one, but I would probably go with Billy Joel because it's like more of a personal connection. We talked about the Glass Houses album and in the summer of 1980 and you know, the fall of 1980 with Glass Houses, how you know the songs played for a long time and they helped through through different things for young 13-year-old me. I would have to go with with Billy Joel. I think Billy Joel, his albums up until his last album, all I could I I could relate to all of it. Like I was growing up as Billy Joel was growing up, kind of thing, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00:Where are you on Uptown Girl?
SPEAKER_02:No, I don't hate it. You know, I'll listen to it. It's not on my phone if you're asking.
SPEAKER_00:We didn't start the fire, where are you on that?
SPEAKER_02:Uh you know, I I don't hate it, but it's not on my phone. Okay. I I'll say that. You know, it's I think that he reached a point where sometimes the the fame and the fortune, you know, overshadows the work that you're doing, and you think that you can do this and and it gets you more fame and fortune, and you give up certain things. And that ha happened with Delton John with with not having Bernie writing, and and it happens to a ton of people. But I don't hate uh you know, Uptown Girl or Or anything. I think we talked about Billy Joel. It was one of the first things we ever talked about where you had said, Yeah, I I don't really like Billy Joel, and I said something to the effect like uh I I'm not making excuses or I I have no problem telling you that I like Billy Joel.
SPEAKER_00:You might have informed me that music is not a competition.
SPEAKER_02:Trevor Burrus That might have w been where it came from, all due to Uptown Girl and so forth. But you know what? It's kind of what what we like and what we're used to. And like I said, Billy Joel was played all the time. I mean, I'm from Levittown, New York. Even though Billy Joel was from Hicksville, at the end of his shows, he always used to say, Hey, I'm from Levittown, and he hung out in Levittown, and he would say that he he grew up in a Levit house. And if you go to the Long Island Music Hall of Fame, they even have all this Levittown stuff up in the exhibit that they have for Billy Joel. So I kind of have like that personal connection, even though I don't know Billy Joel any more than I know Elton John. So hey, listen, let's move on. Prince versus David Bowie.
SPEAKER_00:Woo! Those are two amazing, iconic artists that uh you just hate to pick one or the other. But I never got to see David Bowie live. And I've heard he was really great live. Um, he he also went through a lot of different eras, and you know, he had a Ziggy Stardust, and he had all like we talked about, his ashes to ashes and everything in between. And so I got a lot of respect for him, but I saw the Prince Musicology Tour, which was maybe uh early 2000s, and he blew the doors off that place. That guy could play guitar like nobody else. I mean, he belongs on every list of greatest guitarists, and he has so many hits, he has so many great songs, and talk about being a guy that has the crowd in the palm of his hand. I mean, Prince had that. So I'm I'm going Prince.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm gonna go with David Bowie, and for me, it's it's quick to David Bowie. I love David Bowie. I love him through all the different periods of his career, and even when he did covers, you know, he did China Girl, which was originally an Iggy Pop song, and then he I didn't know that. Yes, he made it his own and he would make songs his own. But, you know, when you listen to Major Tom or you listen to anything off the Ziggy Stardust album, you know, The Rise and Fall, if you just listen to the song Life on Mars, I mean they're just absolutely fantastic songs that I continue to listen to that are just from these periods of rock and roll that you can still listen and enjoy now. It's David Bowie for me. All right, I get it. All right, we're gonna finish up here. Axel Rose versus Bon Scott slash Brian Johnson.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, wait, okay, so they're sharing a spot. Yeah. I think it's easy for both of us, but maybe not. You go first.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's real easy. It's Bon Scott, Brian Johnson. I mean, for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Between the two of them, who is it?
SPEAKER_02:Uh I'd have to go Brian Johnson. Okay. I'm gonna go Bon Scott. I would go Brian Johnson. Even though I was a big ACDC fan, we I've talked about it more times than I care to mention. That, you know, when Bon Scott died, I'm like, oh, that's it, ACDC's over. We talked about me telling Vinny Giacaloni that. And sure enough, within a couple of months, all of a sudden you shook me all night long. So what did I know as a 13-year-old, you know?
SPEAKER_00:It's pretty unprecedented though, and they they somehow did it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. They were the blueprint.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm gonna go Bon Scott uh just because his vocal style, man, had anybody ever sounded like that?
SPEAKER_02:No. Did anyone ever play the bagpipes like that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And I actually looked up Bon Scott before ACDC to see what he was up to, and it's hilarious. You can find some old videos from like Australian TV of him in these pop bands that are doing like yummy, yummy. I got love in my tummy or something. And he was a pop singer, and somehow he turned into the Bon Scott in ACDC. So it was pretty funny.
SPEAKER_02:I really appreciate that being sent in and enjoyed going back and forth and taking a look at, you know, the non-competition competition. That was a lot of fun. The top five most listened to episodes since the show began. Are you ready for this, Jimmy? Yes. Number one, it's the first episode. All right. So let's just do like the top seven instead, because you know, everybody will listen to the first one. They'll see if it's something they like. Yeah. And in in all honesty, the show is much different than what it was on episode one. I think that if you start, you know, at episode 20, I'm just throwing a number out there, you'll see how different it is, you know, more in the direction of where we're going today.
SPEAKER_00:If people could hear episode one that we threw away, then it was really different.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Much, much different.
SPEAKER_00:You know, you're never hearing that, folks.
SPEAKER_02:The episode that no one's heard. You were right about that. And we're gonna keep it that way. But number seven, episode thirty-eight, the real My Sharona interview. Again, loved it, loved having Sharona on. It was fantastic. I think we were the only interview she did in 2024.
SPEAKER_00:Wow. And she told us she was only gonna do five minutes or something, and she talked to us for 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Number six, episode 21, material issue, the Ted Ansani interview. Okay, we're going through the top seven episodes listened to by you, the listeners, since the show began. Number five, episode four, Nirvana, MTV Unplugged, 30th anniversary, friend of the show, Chris Cassidy. Yes. Number four, episode 29, Driving and Crying, the Kevin Kinney interview, another friend of the show. Number three, episode 34, APB, Ian Slater and George Chain interview. And that was fantastic. They called in from Scotland, and it was great, you know, having a conversation with them. And seeing them a few weeks ago playing up in New York, loved it. Great time. Number two, episode 32, Let's Active and Early REM producer, Mitch Easter interview. Again, probably the highlight of that is when you asked him how they got the sound for the beginning of Radio Free Europe. That is correct. And so many people like that. And on social media, I know people were reposting that saying you gotta listen if you want to know how they did that. And then number one, as I mentioned before, the first episode titled Pilot. The episode with the least listens is a bit of a surprise to me. Episode 62, Paul McCartney's Tokyo Troubles, Downtown, and The King of Rock. Least listened to show out of all of the shows.
SPEAKER_00:Weird.
SPEAKER_02:Even the 2024, I think it was called The Baker's Dozen, where we kind of recapped 2024. That got more listens than the Paul McCartney's Tokyo Trouble.
SPEAKER_00:So go listen to it, folks. Save that show.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, let's bring the numbers up. Let's see what we can do. You know what? I think now we should look back at some of the funny moments here on Music in My Shoes. I've got bloopers in my shoes. How about you? I've got bloopers in my shoes. How about you? We got music in our shoes. We've got music in our hair. We've got everything you want because we care. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something old. Rock and roll girls peaked at number 20, April 27, 85. And the single centerfold peaked at number 44.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, center field.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Jay Giles band. All right. And the single. All right, Jimmy, hold on. Ready? Yeah. And the single center feed. Oh boy.
SPEAKER_00:I realized I never poured myself a glass of water, and I so I I'm gonna grab that while we're stopped. Jimmy's getting water, water, water, Jimmy's getting water.
SPEAKER_02:What she said, nowhere fast, or barbar. Or barbar Barbarism. Oh, can we try that one more time? Yeah. Or Barbarism begins at home, which I love. I think that song is fantastic.
SPEAKER_01:Did you hear that?
SPEAKER_02:Wait, you might have to make a mark.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What the heck was that? Oh. Sorry, I didn't turn off. Turn my GPS off.
SPEAKER_00:Will Farrell?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. As the cowboy. Oh, God, I my voice. Sorry. Hold on.
SPEAKER_00:You got Will Farrell.
SPEAKER_02:As the cowboy. As the cowboy. One more time, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I wasn't into Donna Summer.
SPEAKER_02:You look like Donna Summer. Hey I'm not even sure what that was supposed to mean. Oh man. Oh, that was funny. To make a mark, then we need to get rid of that part.
SPEAKER_00:I also realized I need my phone for Minute with Jimmy, and I think I left it in the car. So let me find it.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. So right now you're listening to A Minute Without Jimmy. Let's learn something as I'm always. Okay. Sorry about that. It's okay. And the only single on the album, the autobiography. Autobiographal. The autobiographical. Oh my God. I said it right, but I'm just laughing. I'm sorry, Jimmy. I'm making Jimmy work today. And on percussion, Ray Cooter. And it's not Rai Cooter. I did this the last time. I wanted to say. Oh my God. Is this exactly the way the last time I brought up Elton John?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't it Ray Cooper? Hold on, Jimmy. God. Yes, it's Ray Cooper. All right, you ready? Yeah. And we're changing our ways, making different roads. Oh my God. We can't put that on the air.
SPEAKER_00:All right.
SPEAKER_02:The biggest of the thing.
SPEAKER_00:He was talking about his muscles.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, that doesn't they didn't come across like that at all. Oh God. Let me take a deep breath. All right, you ready? Jimmy, with you being the subject matter on Jimmy, let me do it one more time. Jimmy, with you being the sub Jimmy. Okay, you ready? Yeah. So anyway, that's a a little bit of a quick summer 1980 poof for me.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know if that's the right term.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, all right, let me try this again. So after that, Dire Straits follows up with money for nothing. Oh God, I just burped. Let's try it again one more time. Jimmy, why don't you drink a little bit more water there? Okay. You good? Mm-hmm. I'm not sure what has happened. But it's happening. And hearing, you know, Don't Stop Believing, Go Your Own Way, songs that were on the radio all the time, and it just kind of brings me back to that time.
SPEAKER_00:Don't stop believing.
SPEAKER_02:Did I say don't stop believing?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No, I didn't. I did. Okay. All right, we'll leave it then. Wait, the 90210 album?
SPEAKER_00:That's not right, Jim. Somebody should have given him a juicer, you know? I mean, that lemon isn't gonna squeeze itself, but apparently, like, he needed someone else to do it.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I don't even know what to say, Jimmy. I don't know what to say. It's the 100th episode. There you go. Jimmy, that was fantastic. Reliving some of those moments that I forgot that we actually did. And sometimes that's how it is in the studio.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and uh I've been saving those for the last year or so without you knowing about it. So I I just sprung this on Jim last week, I think. I said, Hey, by the way, for the hundredth episode, we could do these bloopers. And uh Jim couldn't stop laughing at him, at us, at all of our malaprops.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it's true. I listened to it in the car on the way home. I listened to it on my Bluetooth speaker at home, and then I went walking and listened to it on my headphones as I was walking, and I'm hysterical as I'm walking past people, and people are looking at me like, what's going on?
SPEAKER_00:They thought you were an escaped mental patient.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I was acting that way because I laughed pretty hard. You know what, Jimmy? Tick, tick, tick. It's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_00:So Jim thinks I'm gonna talk about an album from 1980. But what I decided, since it's the hundredth episode, I wanted to talk about how grateful I am for this show. Because Jim came in, I didn't know him. He was a friend of a friend, and he came into the studio to record something. We did the aforementioned uh episode that you know nobody's gonna hear. And then he came back in and he said, Well, how about you be on the mic too? And that way I can be talking to somebody. And I'm like, sure, let's do that. And since then we've become friends, and I really, really, you know, like Jim Boge and I'll like all you people out there. I mean, he's a very lovable guy, and that's why people listen because Jim's a good dude. And so I'm just grateful to be a part of it, and I wanted to say thanks on our hundredth anniversary episode, and uh yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you, Jimmy. You can go five minutes with Jimmy if you want to, if you're gonna talk like that. I was not expecting that, and you know, honestly, I do appreciate it because I came in here not knowing what to do, how I was gonna do it. Everything is different when you get in a booth and you put the headphones on and you got this big microphone in front of you, it becomes more real, and I had no idea what to expect. Hence why that first episode never came out. We did a new episode one. But it has been just a pleasure. I enjoy talking to someone compared to just speaking. You know, nobody wants to just hear me. But speaking to you and you saying what you like or don't like or agree or whatever, it's just fun. And that's what I think the show is. I think the show is entertaining. As one of the listeners said in the early days, I don't know all of the things you talk about. I don't even like some of the things you talk about, but the show is entertaining. And that was after the third episode, and that's when I was like, this is what we need to do. Yeah. Still talk about the things that are music in my shoes, but at the same time make it entertaining so that people can enjoy themselves, have a laugh, get away from whatever it is that you know might be on their mind. That's what we're here for. And I do appreciate it, Jimmy, because I could not do any of this without you. Oh, thanks. I know there's plenty of people do podcasts from their home and they set up a studio and they do this and they do that. That's not me. I am the guy that comes in. I turn it on to talk, do my thing, it's over, and you take care of everything else, and that's what I love. Okay? That's that's me.
SPEAKER_00:That's good, yeah. And that's you. It's a good team. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Me and you, and you and me. No matter how you toss the dice, it had to be.
SPEAKER_00:Hakuna matata.
SPEAKER_02:Wow, we're going everywhere today. I like it. But yeah, Jimmy, I do appreciate it. I really do, because we would not be here at the hundredth episode. We probably wouldn't have made a per past the first episode if it had just been on me. Oh, well, thank you. Okay. So thank you. And and and I do mean, and thank you to everybody that listens to the show. I think the last time I looked, 73 different countries have listened. Somewhere about a thousand fifty-five different cities across the world have listened to the show at some point. And we appreciate everybody that does. That means a lot.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it really keeps us going and keeps us wanting to do this so that that you can hear. And if you want to reach out to us, you can at musicinmyshoes at gmail.com. Please like and follow the Music in My Shoes Facebook and Instagram pages. That's it for episode 100 of Music in My Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios, and the magic man that makes it all happen, that's located right here in Atlanta, Georgia. And Vic Thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing.
