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R.E.M. Live 1995, U2 Live 2005 and Howl Owl Howl Live 2025 E106
A fast-moving tour through concerts, songs, and stories that still echo: REM’s 1995 blowout, U2’s 2005 highs, a supergroup surprise with Darius Rucker, Mike Mills, and Steve Gorman and how a ballad helped change maritime safety. We end with a spirited look at 80s alt gems and one notorious number-one.
• deep dive into REM’s 1995 Omni shows and rare covers
• U2’s 2005 setlist peaks, “Miss Sarajevo,” and a proposal during “One”
• Howl Owl Howl live review with Darius Rucker, Mike Mills, Steve Gorman
• airport chat about McCartney, Rod Stewart, and a Rick Astley ritual
• Gordon Lightfoot’s Edmund Fitzgerald and Great Lakes safety changes
• 70s–80s track talk: KC, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Cure, Oingo Boingo, Big Audio Dynamite
• hot take on Starship’s "We Built This City"
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Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music in My Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 106. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. So, Jimmy, I just wanted to start off by saying a reminder to everyone you have until December 1st to let us know if you're interested in the first three records of the Let's Go Dancing set. There's four of them. The fourth isn't out yet, but just the first three, as well as the Kevin Kinney Think About It Solo vinyl. Again, these are records. These are old school.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they're big.
SPEAKER_04:So we've had a ton of people that have reached out that are interested in them. You have till December 1st to get your name in that you want to be part of this so we can do the drawing and see who's going to be the lucky winner.
SPEAKER_02:Is it just one winner? We're not going to give piecemeal, they're going to be a package deal, right?
SPEAKER_04:That is correct. And and even better than that is that Kevin Kinney and Anna Jensen have signed all four of them.
SPEAKER_02:They did. I watched it.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. So I think that's really cool to be able to win this vinyl, but to also be able to win vinyl that is autographed the album covers by the artist as well as the artist who wrote the songs initially. For sure. Very, very cool. So you can reach us at musicinmy shoes at gmail.com. You can hit us up on Facebook, Instagram, at MusicInMy Shoes. But again, that's till December 1st, 2025, if you want to be in the running for the drawing of four vinyl records.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it's four. I thought it was three. Oh, yeah, it's three. Let's go dancing in the other one. Sorry, I tuned out for a second. That's all right. Can I enter? Because I really want them. I was getting very jealous when they're sitting there signing the records. Jimmy, no, you can't.
SPEAKER_04:I'm sorry. There's like a little, we have a little, what what do they call those things?
SPEAKER_02:Um, I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_04:Anyone that's associated with Music in My Shoes is not eligible for this prize. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:We've got the boilerplate, uh, you know, terms and conditions.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, that's that's what it is.
SPEAKER_02:We don't want the appearance of impropriety here.
SPEAKER_04:That is correct. All right, we got that taken care of, Jimmy. You know, one of the things is that we've had guests on three of the last four episodes, and we had Johnny Hickman, we had Monty Melnick, so Johnny Hickman of Cracker, Monty A. Melnick, the tour manager of the Ramones, and last episode we had Kevin Kinney of Driving and Crying, and the artist known as every time I say it, I always think of Prince, the artist formerly known as Yeah, no, she's still known as Anna Jensen. Yes, the artist known as Anna Jensen. And what ends up happening is that it takes away a bit of what you know, my normal groove of talking about a lot of different things like I normally do on most episodes. I love having the guests, but it then makes it more difficult to talk about some of the things that are on the top of my head because it just doesn't go with the show when you have a specific guest on. Right. So I got a lot of things I want to go through. So I'm gonna do it. Let's right now we're gonna get into it. Right now. Perfect. Are you ready? I'm ready. Right now we're gonna do it. We're gonna kick it off. REM at the Omni Atlanta, Georgia, in November of 1995, 30 years ago. So I saw them. They played three shows. It was the three last shows of the tour. I went to two of them. Luscious Jackson open up. They were a pretty good band. I don't know if you uh remember them.
SPEAKER_02:I remember the name, but I can't remember. They have the name of songs.
SPEAKER_04:Like they probably their biggest song was uh Naked Eye that they had. They were pretty good. They were actually friends with the Beastie Boys back in the early days. And they signed with Grand Royal, which is a Beastie Boy record label, I believe. But enough about them. So REM's touring for Monster. Monster came out in 1994, came out like a year, over a year earlier in 1994, and here they are, they're finishing up the tour for it. It was still popular. Crush with Eyeliner, you know, that was still out as a song at the time, which I love. I really do like that song a lot. They hadn't toured since 1989, and there was a lot of, you know, wow, what what are they gonna do? Man, it's been so long. Everybody just seemed to want to go see REM on this tour. And especially because it was a rocking album. Monster really was much more rocking than the last two albums that had come out, and it was sold out, and I mean they put two shows up and they sold out, and then instantly they put another, you know, a third one. And I actually have the poster, not it's not even a poster. It is the newspaper article from like the Atlanta Journal, the Atlanta Constitution. I don't remember when was the day, one was the night or something. And it was a full-page ad. And I actually had Mike Mills last year autograph it. And he looked at it, he thought it was pretty cool because it's not the normal thing. People don't normally come up with newspaper advertisements. Hey, can you sign this?
SPEAKER_02:True.
SPEAKER_04:And it, but it's cool. I have it uh hanging up in my basement. So they played a bunch of um the same songs both nights, including What's the Frequency, Kenneth? I love that song. When that song first came out, because it was just such rock and roll, so different than everybody hurts and losing my religion, which I love those songs. But I was ready in '94 for some rock, and this album delivered 100%. But uh Crush with Eyeliner, Losing My Religion, Man on the Moon, The One I Love, Pop Song 89, Star 69, Night Swimming, Everybody Hurts, It's the End of the World As We Know It, and I Feel Fine. I love that title. Yeah. And then they played, you know, one of the other nights, Fall on Me, Begin the Begin, South Central Rain. They only played Radio Free Europe once on the 95 tour. I was at the show. Oh, good. Yeah. And they did a cover of Blue Oyster Colts Don't Fear the Reaper. And I remember when they started playing it, I'm like, I don't know this song, but it almost sounds like Don't Fear the Reaper.
SPEAKER_02:I was gonna say, you don't know that song because you didn't know their version.
SPEAKER_04:I didn't know their version. And they did it, it was it was all right. You know, it wasn't bad. It's cool sometimes to see a band go out and play, and it's not perfect. It's just something that they want to do. And it was it was fun. I mean, I enjoyed it. So what I did is I actually went back and listened to it the other night. Because, you know, today you can find anything you want. And I went back and I listened to the show, this particular show with Don't Fear the Reaper, and it was as much fun as I remembered it being. So the last song on the last night of the tour, they did a cover of Wild thing, and that's how they ended the 95 tour. Kind of almost a campy version, but it was cool, you know, because they were having fun, and this is it, it's all over.
SPEAKER_02:Aaron Ross Powell Well, and that's like a really simple keg party kind of song that, you know, it was one of the first songs that a lot of people learn on guitar. So it's a way for them to kind of go back to their roots of just being a fun party band.
SPEAKER_04:Aaron Ross Powell, which they were for sure, you know. And if I'm correct, I want to say Monica Sellis was at the show. She was a big tennis player at the time.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:What was that guy? Jim Currier? Jim was that his name? Yeah. He was there. Dan Patrick of ESPN, he was there. Chuck Lavelle was there. Chuck Lavelle was keyboards for the well, he is for the Rolling Stones, but originally for um Alman Brothers band. Right. So there was a a ton of people there, if I remember correctly. But I had fun. It was definitely a good time. Uh I hadn't seen them since the 83 tour when they opened up for Joan Jett and the Black Arts and the Police at Shea Stadium in New York. So it had been a bunch of years, and it was definitely different with them being this big huge headliner. And it it was a great show. Did not disappoint. So let's fast forward up to 2005, November 18th. Phillips Arena, which is where the Omni was. They tore the Omni down, they built Phillips Arena, and U2 plays. They did two nights there. I went to the first night. They were touring for the 2004 album How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. We've talked about that before.
SPEAKER_02:As you know, I think it's the best U2 album uh in the the last 30 years.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's a great album. It really is a great album. I I'm with you. Uh Gavin Rossdale of Bush, he had a new band out and they were called Institute. And they played a couple of Bush songs, but they played some of their own, and it didn't do that well because pretty quickly Gavin was back with uh Bush, you know, doing his thing. But they did uh The Chemicals Between Us, they did uh Machine Head. That's all I can remember. They they might have done something else, but they did those. It sounded like Bush to a T. You know, like there was no difference. They didn't even try and make a sound any different, like, oh, we're a different band. It was it was Bush all the way. You two performed newer songs like Vertigo, Elevation. I say newer songs. This is, you know, at the time, you know. Uh Elevation, Beautiful Day, stuck at a moment you can't get out of, Yahweh, all because of you, along with classics like Mysterious Ways, Sunday, Bloody Sunday, Bullet the Blue Sky, Pride in the Name of Love, Where the Streets Have No Name, One, and 40. And 40 is my all-time classic number one song to end any concert of anything I've ever seen is when U2 does 40, because it is just an amazing song, and when the audience sings along with it, and just the way that it goes, that is the song for the closing song on that tour? It was. It was the closing tour when I went that night.
SPEAKER_02:So because I went to that tour. I don't know if I went the same night you did. It seems like I've seen you two close with walk on at some point. They switched over from 40 to that, but maybe on that tour they were still closing it with 40.
SPEAKER_04:It might have been the 2001 tour that they close with walk on, but I I think you're right about that.
SPEAKER_02:I was sitting in the 2001 tour, I was sitting right behind the stage, which kind of sounds good. Like literally, we're like kind of right behind the edge. But the speakers weren't facing that way, so the sound wasn't that good back there. But we were close to the band. So then on the 2005 tour, I got good floor seats. It was amazing.
SPEAKER_04:Awesome. Yeah, I had good seats on the I had good seats for both of those tours. I had real good seats for both of them. So they performed Miss Sarajevo by passengers. So the passengers was this like fake group because it was actually you two with Brian Eno, and then they might have a guest, and on Miss Sarajevo, they had Luciano Pavarotti. Oh. And he's singing his opera style in this song. This song is great. If you don't know this song, go listen to it. It sounds like you two playing in the beginning, a little experimental because Brian I know's part of it. But then Pavarotti starts singing. If you don't like opera, it's okay. Because you will like this song and you will appreciate Pavarotti for what he was. And when they played on the 18th, Bono did Pavarotti's part. And it was absolutely out of this world. I mean, I could not believe how good he had done. And and I started to think to myself, if he didn't think he could do something that was, I'm not saying it was equal to Pavarotti, no one's equal, but something where you could say that was good, I don't think he would have done it. And I think it's something that he practiced a lot. It was fantastic. It truly, truly was, and that was definitely a highlight of the show for me. So we went to the show with our neighbors, Paul and Karen. And Paul says to me somewhere along the night, I think I'm gonna propose to Karen. And I was like, Are you sure? We had a couple, you know, a few. Well, anyway, we had some adult beverages, let's put it that way. Okay. And I'm like, hey, why don't you wait until tomorrow? And you two, the song one comes on, and he says to her, I thought of proposing to you during this song. And she goes into a purse and she gets out some costume jewelry, like a ring costume jewelry, and pulls it out to be like, Hey, I'm calling your bluff. Here, you've got your chance. They got engaged that night, George.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, congrats.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, they got engaged that night. And at their wedding, they had found an actual recording of one from that night, from that show that they played as their wedding song. And back then, you couldn't find songs the way you can today. Like today, I can go on and listen to any concert basically I've ever been to and listen to it. I can probably see some video of it if I want to. But back then, you couldn't do it. And they had a friend that went and found it and actually got the recording so that they could dance to it at their wedding. And you know, they talked about it a little bit, and you know, we were at the wedding, and it was fantastic to have been there the night that they got engaged when I was like, Yeah, I I don't know, man. I'm not sure you really want to do, you know, because it's one thing to say, hey, I'm gonna propose, you know, you're gonna get down on your knees somewhere. It's a different thing when you're at a U-2 show and you're piling cups up inside of each other like we were doing. But they are still together, and uh my hat's off to them.
SPEAKER_02:I have some friends that got engaged at a Foo Fighters concert. Really? Yeah. And and I think that I think Dave Grohl kind of made a thing out of it. You know, they they they saw that it was happening, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, very nice. You say one love, one life, when it's one need in the night. One love, we get to share it. Leaves you baby if you don't care for it.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, Pavarotti eat your heart out.
SPEAKER_04:Hey, thank you. I mentioned that I saw the last two nights of REM's 1995 tour. Thirty years later, I saw the last night of the howl, owl, howl tour at the Variety Playhouse in Atlanta on November 15th, 2025. So the band is made up of Darius Rucker of Hootie and the Blowfish, Mike Mills of REM, bassist and singer, and Steve Gorman, former drummer of the Black Crows. And I really didn't know what to expect going into this show, but it was a good time. It was originals, it was covers from their respective bands. It was something that I really walked away saying, man, that was worth the money. It was a definitely a good time. So Darius did a good job on vocals across the board because he sang you know the band songs, he sang REM songs, he sang hootie songs, he sang Black Crow songs. And I think that's kind of tough to be able to take your voice all over the place when you're like this professional singer. Generally, people have like areas that they stay in, that their comfort zones. Yeah. And he was fantastic across all of them. And, you know, the fans loved it because you could tell who was there for hootie songs, and the most of the people that were there, I would say were hootie people. But the REM songs, the Black Crow songs, and it was just great. I mean, it really was. So Mike Mills sang a few. He did Don't Go Back to Rockville, which he wrote as a a true story that he had written about a girl going back to Rockville, Maryland, and he didn't want her to go. Wow. So he sang it, and then uh Darius joined in with them, and he sang My Cologne, which is the first single from the band. And the story is something like Ariana Grande had released a fragrance, and the it was called REM. And Mike wrote My Cologne as a response back to that. And it has a line in it, I want to smell like Ariana Grande, and I think she wants you to smell like me. It is it's a good rocking song. It's funny when you listen to the words and you kind of know the history about it, but it was cool. Some other originals I liked, Fear, Doesn't Matter Now, used to be. They did a cover of the Black Crows cover of Otis Redding's Hard to Handle. And what was really cool is you know you hear a song, a drummer's in a band, and you don't pay a whole lot of attention, but the minute they started that song, you knew it was the guy that played the drums in the original Black Crow's cover. Like you knew that's like it it was exactly to a T to the way the Black Crows had done it. Um, so I thought that was really cool. Darius did a great version of the REM song I Believe, which is you know one of my favorite songs of REM. He also sang Time, Let Her Cry, that are Hootie and the Blowfish songs, REM songs Losing My Religion, The Show Closer, The One I Love, and an awesome version of The Black Crows, She Talks to Angels. They didn't disappoint. Really good show. So keeping in this whole line of concerts and everything, a few weeks ago I'm in LaGuardia Airport in New York City and Queens, and I am wearing a Paul McCartney concert shirt. And I come down this escalator, and there's a guy there, you know, you can ask questions to. How do I get to my gate? Where do I find this? Blah, blah, blah, blah. And he walks up to me, he sees me wearing the Paul McCartney shirt, and he comments about it. I say I saw him in Atlanta recently. He's like, oh wow, you really saw him? I'm like, yeah. He goes, you know who I really like? I'd really like to see Rod Stewart live. I'm like, oh, I saw him in the summer with um Cheap Trick opening up. He's like, really? And I guess he just wanted to see where he could go. Because then he says his favorite is Rick Astley, and that when he hears Rick Astley on the radio, he calls his mother up to say their song is playing. And he says he never misses it. He always calls his mother to say, never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down.
SPEAKER_02:All right, he's he's Rick rolling his mom.
SPEAKER_04:I guess so. I guess so. The things you learn about people just from wearing a Paul McCartney concert t-shirt, never gonna say goodbye, never gonna tell a lie, and hurt you. Fifty years ago on November 10th, 1975, the SS Edmund Fitzgerald sank in Lake Superior during a storm. Twenty-nine crew members perished, and I'd say most people know of the ship from the 1976.
SPEAKER_02:Gordon Lightfoot song.
SPEAKER_04:Correct. That's how I know. I mean, really, that's everything I know about it was really through that song. It actually reached number two, November 20th, 1976, on Billboard Hot 100. Keeping it on people's minds, not just the song, but there was, you know, a lot about how this boat just all of a sudden disappeared and sank, and they didn't find any of the people, the 29 people, they didn't find anything. They barely found anything initially from the ship at all. And it was kind of a mystery. But then with the help of of Gordon Lightfoot's song, they were able to put in all kinds of safety regulations that they had not had before. And it really changed the way that shipping was done on the Great Lakes. Because it was uh Lake Superior, I believe, is where the ship went down. So before the Edmund Fitzgerald sank, if you go back about a hundred and sixty years, in the particular area that it sank, almost two hundred and fifty ships had sunk. Since they put in those safety regulations in the last fifty years, zero. Oh wow. Zero. And I think that makes a a huge, huge difference about putting safety ahead of everything else.
SPEAKER_02:Aaron Ross Powell It's amazing that many people died, you know, you would think that you would have uh lifeboats and life preservers and things.
SPEAKER_04:Aaron Powell Yeah, they didn't have all of the things that they have today that are required. You know, like today you have to have the safety vest, the life vest that has the lights or the makes the sounds. They didn't have that. That wasn't something they needed to do at the time. And it's just amazing how one event and you know, coupled with a song, I'm not saying that the song did it all, but it's so many people knew about it because of the song, what you know, the changes in life that it could actually make. Jimmy, let's change gears a little bit. I mean, honestly, I think that's a r uh, you know, an important story for people that with safety, and it's really cool that music was part of it. And, you know, unfortunately, 29 people perished, but a lot of people's lives have been saved.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So let's change up a little bit with tick-tick-tick. It's Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_03:It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02:Well, Jim, I found a loophole in the Minute with Jimmy bylaws. I've read the terms and conditions, and it doesn't say that I have to talk about music. So today I'm talking about the Georgia Bulldogs versus Texas Longhorns football game that I went to over the weekend. I had the greatest time. Athens, Georgia is one of the best towns in the world, the greatest college town in the world, and went up there uh with a good friend that came in from out of town. And he is one of these guys that, you know, he's done well in business and he has people that get him tickets to things, which is really nice. And he shares with his friends. Well, he this to this game, he got field passes to go on the field and be on the sideline of the Georgia, Texas football game.
SPEAKER_04:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:We actually had passes just to be there until kickoff, but we kind of overstayed our welcome and stayed for the first like five, 10 minutes of the game. But yeah, we got pictures with the mascots and you know, the actual Ugga, the live dog out there. We got a picture with him in his doghouse, and uh it was it was a blast. So go dogs.
SPEAKER_04:That was really good timing there, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02:I'm telling you, I'm good at it.
SPEAKER_04:You are. No, that's a really cool story. So you probably don't know because we don't talk a ton about sports. Every once in a while I'll s put something out there. But correct me if I'm wrong, Jimmy. You went out to Texas last year. That's right. What what city do they play in? Austin. Austin. You went to Austin, Texas last year to try and go to the game, but the ticket prices were so expensive you couldn't go.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It went up uh on game day, which is usually when I buy tickets because that's when prices go down a little bit. It went up to a thousand dollars just to get in the stadium at in Austin last year.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my lord. So this year you're able to go because a friend comes into town that's got business connections, and not only do you get to watch the game, you get to meet Ugga, the dog, the bulldog the live bulldog. No, you didn't. Yeah. Did you really?
SPEAKER_02:He walked right past us.
SPEAKER_04:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:Was he wearing the He was wearing his uh his ratty coat, man. That coat, that's like a gotta be his favorite coat that he's had forever because it's got holes and worn spots and things on it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:TV must do something with it. You know how they say TV adds 10 pounds? TV must make it look good or something.
SPEAKER_02:I it does because I had no idea that it was it was that worn. How tall is he? Oh gosh, I don't know. I mean, I would I would guess probably 5'11, something like that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, all right. I only asked since you saw him live. That's I would never ask that question, but I was just wondering. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Now I have a friend that met Sylvester Stallone, and he said Sylvester Stallone is is a lot shorter than a lot of people would picture.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, I've heard that also. Yeah. I know someone that did some uh acting in a movie with him and said he was much shorter than what you would think.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I like that minute with Jimmy. That was pretty cool. And by the way, if I'm not mistaken, Georgia won.
SPEAKER_02:Big. Yeah. Yeah, 35 to 10.
SPEAKER_04:Woo! My name is Jimmy. Well, I'm not trying to do an onside kick, but let's revisit some more music in my shoes. Nice. Casey and the Sunshine Band, That's the Way I Like It, peaked at number one on Billboard Hot 100, November 22nd, 1975. That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh. I like doing it my way, saying it like that. Yeah. That reminds me of a song um by Trio. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And what you do and what you won't. Uh-huh. Da-da-da. Da-da-da. Yeah. So when I say uh-huh, even though that's not the way they necessarily say it, and that's the way I like it, I always think of that other song. That's just how my head goes. I'm just thinking a million things. But, you know, I gotta be honest with you. I like Casey and the Sunshine Band. We had uh listener Barry, who had written in to us at one point saying that he did not think that Casey and the Sunshine Band was a disco band, and that when someone said it was, that it really hurt his feelings, and he was like, no, they're not. No, that, you know. And and KC, um, he he said that we're like a funk band. We're, you know, we're a party band and stuff. But I do like Casey and the Sunshine Band. I like almost all their songs. They're fun. They're fun. And if you were at an event, a wedding, or school dance or whatever it might be, when one of the KC and the Sunshine Band songs came on, everybody seemed to get up. Everybody knew it, everybody wanted to be part of it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, everyone wants to disco dance to KC and the Sunshine Band. All right. So anyway, moving on.
SPEAKER_04:Let's move on to Echo and the Bunnymen bring on the Dancing Horses, which could not be any different than KC and the Sunshine Band. It was the WLIR Screamer of the Week, the fourth week of October 1985. Bring on the Dancing Horses, Headless and All Alone. Shiver and say the words of every lie you've heard. It's recorded for the 86 film Pretty in Pink. It's a fantastic song. And it's not like many songs on soundtracks at the time. You know, soundtracks started to become a whole different animal. But when you look at soundtracks in the 80s, you know, there were some soundtracks. You're like, I don't know a single one of those songs. They just hired some band, you know, to just do some synthesizer or this. And but this was like, wow, this is a great song. How is this on, you know, uh a soundtrack? It came out before the movie came out. Movie came out in 86, I believe it was. You know, John Hughes film, and he kind of just was the guy that started to use songs to get people to want to go to the films and kind of associate songs with films, teenage films. He he did a really good job with it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:The cure push, WLIR Screamer of the Week, the following week, fifth week of October nineteen eighty five. I know. I've talked about this before. I think you might have brought the album up head on the door at one point too, Jimmy. Yep. A four and a half minute song, and the intro is about two minutes and twenty-three, twenty-four seconds. All right. And I absolutely love that. I was like, man, this is just so cool. Taking a pop song, you know, it's alternative, but still still to me, it was kind of poppy, being able to do just different things than what a pop song would be like. And that really drew me into the cure. I'd been listening to them for years, but I really did like this phase of them. Can't say enough about the album, head on the door, like I just said. Oingo Boingo Stay, W-L-I-R, Screamer of the Week, second week of November 1985. This is my favorite Oingo Boingo song. A serious song compared to Weird Science, Dead Man's Party, and it's, you know, kind of like about a breakup happening. Super serious. I absolutely love it. This is not the first time you tried to get away. This is not a party where people know your name. Go. Don't you go? Won't you stay with me one more day? Love that song. Love it. Big Audio Dynamite. E equals MC Squared, WLIR Scream of the Week, third week of November 1985. Back on episode 99, we spoke about Mick Jones not being in the clash. The clash releases a song, This is England. You like the album a little bit more than what I did. The album was called Cut the Crap.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I I liked the songs on it. I thought the production on the album was incredibly bad.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. Here is Mick Jones, who was kicked out of the band, This Is His Response. And it is just fantastic. They have this album come out, debut album by Big Audio Dynamite called This Is Big Audio Dynamite. And it couldn't be more of a different sound than what the classroom was.
SPEAKER_02:I know I was going to say the same thing. Like how many people can be in an iconic band like that and then just kind of throw it all to the side and say, I'm doing something completely different. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_04:Completely. So different, with lots of samples, you know, sampling different songs or movies, voiceovers from movies. It just was super cool the way that they did everything, and everything seemed to go, you know, it just seemed to make sense in what they were doing. This was not the clash for sure, but I liked it. I really did like it. I went back and I listened to the album uh a couple of weeks ago. Because again, I've talked about this before. I try and do that when I haven't listened to something recently. What do I think about it now? And it still sounds good. It really does, yeah. You know? No in your face guitar and vocals, but more like a pop-oriented, synthesized dance music, and I couldn't get enough of it. I've seen Big Audio Dynama, I think two times, maybe three times. Definitely great shows. It was a lot of fun. Uh first single was bottom line. I'm surprised this wasn't a screamer. This was a really good song. The horses are on the track. And I just like I remember when the song came out, and people would ask me a question, I'd be like, The horses are on the track. And people would be like, What are you talking about? The medicine show video actually had clash members Joe Strummer and Paul Simonen playing police officers, and Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols makes an appearance in the actual video. That's great. Again, it's not the clash, but it's fun to listen to. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02:And it shows you that they still, you know, loved each other, even though they the band broke up, it they were still friends.
SPEAKER_04:Aaron Powell Yes. And I think about this point that they realized they didn't break up because then they broke up because their manager was, you know, making them go against each other, and they realized what the truth was. But at this point, they had already kind of committed to what their new projects were. One being cut the crap for the clash, the other being this is big audio dynamite.
SPEAKER_02:And then Joe did some really great stuff after that as well. Oh, yeah. Like the Mascaleros and the solo stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Fantastic stuff. And then had Mick join him at one show that was fantastic in England. I think it was for like a benefit for the firefighters or something. So often mentioned as the worst song ever, and I am in that camp. We built the city by Starship, reached number one on Billboard, Hot 100, November 16th, 1985. Now, it is also one of the worst nights of my life for not feeling the best. We talked about that on the last episode.
SPEAKER_02:They're rubbing it in.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know if it has anything to do with each other. But this was, I was working in a place. I've I I mentioned this like when probably when we first started the show, or no, actually earlier this year. And I was working at a place where they piped in the music. You had to listen to whatever someone in the office had. And we would listen to top 40, and this song was on all the time. And it almost sounds like there's no instruments. There's a guitar solo. It sounds like everything is just electronic, but just not good electronic. I mean, just terrible. Like they got like a toy almost. Yes, like a toy, you know?
SPEAKER_02:And it is Did the kid press that button again?
SPEAKER_04:So today I listened to the song twice. Just to say, let me see. Because I get a lot of of garbage from people, like, hey, how can you say that about that song? That's a really good song. And I know I'm gonna hear about it now. It is still one of the worst songs, if it's not the worst song. It's number one. All right. It really still is. Marconi plays the Mamba, listen to the radio. Don't you remember? We built this city. We built this city on rock and roll. Wow.
SPEAKER_02:Marconi was the creator of radio. So they're saying that he's playing the Mamba. Listen to the radio. It's just it's a bad, it's a bad line.
SPEAKER_04:Well, Jimmy, I don't think I can take any more. Unfortunately, that's it for episode 106 of Music in My Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios, occasional Mamba player, located here in Atlanta, Georgia, and Vic Thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Bog, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing.
