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Van Halen Vs. Guns N’ Roses and Why AC/DC 'Back In Black' Still Rules, Plus Elton John and The Jim Carroll Band E109
We roll into our 80s hard rock showdown, where we put ACDC’s Back in Black, Van Halen’s 1984, and Guns N’ Roses’ Appetite for Destruction under the brightest light we know: track-by-track comparison. Jump meets It’s So Easy; Panama squares off with Nightrain; Hot for Teacher tangles with Paradise City. The fun isn’t just the score—it’s how those matchups rewire your nostalgia.
From there, we zoom in on live recordings that changed how we hear legends: Elton John’s 1970 trio storm on 17-11-70, and The Doors’ final Jim Morrison concert, a difficult night for him by all accounts, that closes on the aptly chosen "The End."
Minute with Jimmy unwraps the shockingly modern birth of Little Richard’s Tutti Frutti—those opening syllables were a drum part first—and why 1955 still sounds like tomorrow. We close on the Jim Carroll Band’s People Who Died, a song that once felt like pure punk adrenaline and now reads like a roll call of lives that shaped us. If you love rock history, live albums, and the way songs become landmarks, you’ll feel right at home.
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Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music in My Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 109. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. So, Jimmy, I wanted to let people know about the raffle winner. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so Let's Go Dancing volumes one through three and the Kevin Kinney Think About It album, all vinyl, four vinyl albums. Big prize. Matt in Minnesota. All right. I contacted Matt. Matt is super excited to be the grand prize winner of this. But you know what? There's actually more. All right, cool. Because when Kevin and Anna were here, they actually supplied us with more. So we had the grand prize winner, the second prize winner of Let's Go Dancing, Volumes 1, 2, and 3, Meredith in South Carolina. All right, congratulations. Yes. And there's one more, third prize. I'm excited because we were only supposed to have a grand prize winner. Amanda in Alabama won a signed copy of Kevin Kinney's Think About It.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Congrats to all the winners.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, we appreciate everybody that uh signed up and messaged us and emailed.
SPEAKER_02:We got millions of entries.
SPEAKER_00:Millions. I mean, just millions. And it's just great to have all right, we didn't get millions. We got a lot, though. We really did. I gotta be honest with you. And so many of you, when you sent it in, talked about that you really enjoyed the show, you really enjoyed um Kevin and Anna. And it was just really cool to hear all the comments and not just, you know, people saying, here's my name, enter me. There was stories kind of behind almost every single one. And I apologize everybody can't win, but in this, when you only have so many copies, only so many winners.
SPEAKER_02:So can you describe the process for how you picked the winner?
SPEAKER_00:So went through, again, people on Facebook, Instagram, uh, email, musicinmy shoes at gmail.com. Um through that process, people contacted and said that they wanted to be part of it, and then at that point took everybody's names and wrote them down on a piece of paper, and those pieces of paper then were put in a hat, the old put it in the hat thing where it was picked out, and that's how we got our winners. Yeah, it was like uh an Abe Lincoln uh I don't know. Is that a top hat or what do you call that?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's those new hats. Have you seen the hats the kids wear sometimes, the oversized uh baseball hats?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I gotta be honest, I don't like those at all. I don't either.
SPEAKER_02:I don't even think Abe Lincoln would good look good in them.
SPEAKER_00:Aaron Powell Maybe not. I don't know. But I can tell you that Matt, Meredith, and Amanda will all look good while playing their new vinyl records that all have something to do with Kevin Kinney and driving and crying.
SPEAKER_02:Very generous of Kevin and Anna to donate those and autograph them.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, very much so. Again, you know, it's the music of Kevin Kinney on volumes one, two, and three that are done by other artists. And Kevin Kinney Think About It is an actual Kevin Kinney album that came out a few years ago. And then the Let's Go Dancing volumes one, two, and three is the artwork, the cover artwork that Anna did for it. So it's fantastic. It it is. Fantastic. So, Jimmy, yeah. Ultimate classic rock, and I've talked about them before, um, you know, social media, uh, you know, kind of subscribe to it. They had this thing recently. It says you can only pick two. Which of the 80s hard rock classics would be your desert island albums? ACDC Back and Black, Ozzy Osborne, Blizzard of Oz, Def Leppard, Pyromania, Motley Crue, Shout at the Devil, Van Halen, 1984, and finally Guns N' Roses, Appetite for Destruction. So what do you think? You're on a desert island, it's hard rock, okay, so that's the the key to it. What two?
SPEAKER_02:I think I have to pick Back and Black because it's one of my favorite albums. It's the first album I ever bought. It every song on it's great. I mean, hey, so that one's in. I thought I knew my second one until you got to the last thing and it was Guns N' Roses. Like, hmm. So I think I take Appetite for Destruction. How about you?
SPEAKER_00:So I agree. Back and Black, you know, even though it's listed first, I think a lot of times when we read something, what we read first tends to be the thing that we like more as compared to getting to the end, a lot of times our minds aren't even on it anymore, so we don't pay attention. But they did put Guns N' Roses' appetite for destruction, which grabbed you right back into the conversation. But ACDC Back in Black for me, without a doubt, and I don't think we we've talked about it, but I don't think we've really talked about it as as good an album as it is. You know, we've talked a little bit here and there. This is a fantastic album. I remember walking, you know, I had my boom box in the fall of 1980. I think the album came out. It was July of 1980. Sounds right. But it wasn't like it was an instant hit the minute it came out. But by the fall, it really was becoming a huge album. It was huge. And I remember, you know, I was up in New York and it was cold in my boom box, and just listening, you know, walk in the streets, you know, to meet up with friends and oh my lord, it was just such a great album, song after song after song, just like you said.
SPEAKER_02:It's probably when You Shook Me All Night Long was was a single that really everybody started listening to it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Trevor Burrus, Jr. I mean, it was incredible. It really, really was. So ACDC Back in Black for sure for me. I would probably go with Van Halen 1984. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02:That was going to be my choice before I heard the the last one.
SPEAKER_00:Aaron Ross Powell And so when I was a senior in high school, that album was out, you know, it brings back a lot of fond memories, you know, different things that I can remember. I actually, it's funny that we bring this up, and I just thought of this off the top of my head. I went to New York a few weeks ago. I went to see the New York Jets play. Okay, please do not write to us at musicinmyshoes at gmail.com saying why would I waste my time? I'm not sure. You don't need to remind me. But I did waste my time by going to see them play. In the parking lot, I ran into a guy that I went to high school with, and I, you know, I see him occasionally since then, but we were talking, he was with his son, and I said, Oh, I knew your dad when he had this denim jacket that on the back was painted with this cartoon character with a hammer, which was from like the 1984 thing, and and he told me he still has the jacket.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_00:Like he said it because the art was just so fantastic and everything. And I remember, you know, when we were in high school, you just had to say, if people didn't know his name is Tommy, if people didn't know him, you'd be saying, Oh, the dude that has the Van Halen jacket, and people knew immediately who he was. So it's just kind of funny that all these years later, and you know, you're running into people, and it becomes my two records, one of my two records that I would listen to if I was on a desert island.
SPEAKER_02:All right, I've got a game for you. Pull up on your phone the track listing from 1984. We're gonna play war.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. I'm not sure how to play that.
SPEAKER_02:I'm pulling up Appetite for Destruction. And we're gonna decide song by song what's better. All right, I have it. All right, so the first card that I'm gonna play, you have to go in order.
SPEAKER_00:All right, so real quick here, so there's only nine songs. Does it matter?
SPEAKER_02:One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Okay, we're gonna stop at the ninth song on this album, then. All right. All right, welcome to the jungle.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, that 1984, which is that instrumental synthesizer thing.
SPEAKER_02:All right, so clearly that song that's a point for Guns N' Roses. Correct. All right, one nothing. Okay, next, you go go for a song two. Jump. Okay, it's so easy. I mean, jump wins. Yeah. So one-one. Night train. Panama. Oh my god. Okay, if anything could beat Night Train, it's Panama. All right, so it's two to one Van Halen.
SPEAKER_00:Um I go.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:And this song here, I don't know uh the track order of Guns N' Roses, but this song here, because I think of it as me, and I know that you're gonna think about it as you, number four on 1984 is Top Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, he's the king. He's the king. Uh Out to Get Me is the next Guns N' Roses song, and I have to admit I don't know that song. So I don't either. We're gonna go with Top Jimmy. So it's what is it, three to one? Three to one. All right, I got a pretty good one here. Mr. Brownstone.
SPEAKER_00:Drop Dead Legs.
SPEAKER_02:I'm going with Mr. Brownstone.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna go with Mr. Brownstone. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I will still a good song, Van Halen song, but yeah. Um all right, you go hot for Teacher. Oh my god, take me down to the Paradise City. Oh, I I'm gonna give it to Hot for Teacher.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna give it to Paradise City.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, all right. We'll get we'll call it that a tie. So what is it now? Like four to two or something? One, two, three, four, five. That was the sixth song. Yeah, so four to two. Three to two in one tie?
SPEAKER_00:Three to two, one tie. Yeah, Paradise City, I think, is one of the best songs of all time.
SPEAKER_02:It is.
SPEAKER_00:It it just is.
SPEAKER_02:And the way that they do that like that live version with the long uh guitar solos and everything. I guess that's the the main version, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the video for it is excellent. You know, it is just a classic song.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I've got my Michelle. I'll wait. Honestly, I don't know. I'm gonna go with I'll wait. Okay, so you now we're looking at four to two, one tie. Uh Think About You.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not familiar with it. Girl Gone Bad. I'm not really thrilled with that song.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. So we're going another tie. So we got two ties, four to two. Uh technically, Van Halen has won already, but let's see the final song, Sweet Child Oh Mine.
SPEAKER_00:And that cannot beat all right, I'm lying. It totally beats House of Pains.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay, yeah. So uh hey, maybe maybe bringing 1984 to the desert island is is a good idea.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think so. I think that was kind of cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, thanks.
SPEAKER_00:Little uh something to do here, just to battle it out to see who we think. And it's funny because I think sometimes in our heads we think one thing, and then you kind of go uh, you know, song for song like that, and it makes you think, hey, what is better or what is not?
SPEAKER_02:Well, it's funny how some of the best songs lined up against each other, you know?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and that's cool. You know? That was good, Jimmy. I like that. Thanks. Hey, Jimmy, you know what time it is? It's music in my shoes mailbag time. Yay.
SPEAKER_02:Music in my shoes mailbag.
SPEAKER_00:It's been a while since we've done a mailbag, Jimmy. Sure has. I don't think I've ever given credit to who suggested to me to do Music in My Shoes mailbag. And it was this guy, his name is Tommy, not the Tommy I was just talking about. This is Tommy in Georgia, and he's a listener, and he said, you know, sometimes you mention people, and I think at the time we were talking about 8-track Johnny and this person and that person, and mentioning, oh, I heard, you know, somebody wrote something in. He's like, why don't you do a little, you know, part of the show where you mention them, people would like to hear themselves. And I think that that was a great idea, a great concept. You know, he's never written anything in, but he doesn't have to because he's the guy that came up with the I would have thought that he wanted to write in by him saying that. He did not.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:But he came up with the idea, and I just thought the idea was great. And I've never given him credit. I don't believe I have. So, Tommy, thank you. Thanks, Tommy. Hey, let's get into episode 100 from Stones vs. the Who to Prince vs. Bowie, our ultimate rock face-off. So one of the things is when I post on on uh social media, when I post on social media, I try and put like four pictures related to the episode. And on this particular one, I had a Rolling Stones, a Who, a Prince ver and a Bowie. Those were the four pictures. And a lot of times when people see it on social media, they ultimately think it's uh only about those four pictures. And so people will pick who they think is the best out of the four pictures that are up there. Yeah. Even though in this case it was a contest, but in many shows where it's not, I just happen to put something up that's related to the show. So Scott says Rolling Stones, Wade in Lawrenceville, Georgia, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Stones, The Who, and Leonard Skinnard. I think that's cool. Like he gave us his top five bands and said, This is it.
SPEAKER_02:That's good. You know, 70s classic rock right there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, thank you, Wade. Donald in Rocky Mount, Virginia, Stones, Bowie, Prince the Who. Not too shabby. Yeah. Episode 102, chatting with Johnny Hickman of Cracker, Thomas in Rhode Island. This is a wonderful interview of Johnny Hickman, especially for fans of Cracker and Johnny's solo work. Thank you for the podcast episode. And thank you. I mean, I love to hear that. I mean, we bring people on that we like, people that are, you know, musical influences on us to be able to do the show. Johnny was definitely one of them, and I'm glad that it came across that way to everybody.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he was he was so great.
SPEAKER_00:Monty A. Melnick, Ramon's Tour Manager interview, episode 103. Sylvia wrote, fantastic Monty A. Melnick interview. Thank you, music in my shoes, gabba gabba hey. All right. You gotta love that. Gotta love that.
SPEAKER_02:By the way, you sent me the gobble gobble hey Thanksgiving uh text. I appreciated that.
SPEAKER_00:Uh no problem. I actually sent it to Monty A. Melnick also. He responded back. He really loved it and had some Thanksgiving greetings for me as well. That was fun. Kevin Kinney and Anna Jensen, her living tribute to the Art of His Sound, episode 105, from Paula. That was a great podcast. I learned so much about Kevin, Anna, and all the work and artists behind the albums. Stephen says, got a chance to talk with Kevin at the Mercer University show. Truly one of the nicest people I've met in the biz. Long story, but the wife and I tried to attend every Georgia Florida show back in the day. We were hooked. She passed last year, and I just wanted to let him know how much we loved his and their meaning driving and crying's music through the years. And I gotta be honest, that's one of the, you know, most touching things that anyone's written into the show and be able to share something like that that is difficult, you know. But that goes to show you what music can do. And, you know, music brings people together, but I think that music can help heal and and bring back memories of good times for you. Yeah, for sure. Jonathan Spencer, an actor, musician in Athens, Georgia, he's been on Shameless. That Murdaw.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:There's been a new series that's come out. He's on that new series as well.
SPEAKER_02:About Murdaw, the guy, the lawyer that killed somebody. Correct. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he's in a band called The Slightly Famous Somebodies. Oh, right, yeah. That I had gone to see at Athfest um, you know, a few months ago, and we've talked about them. So he took this post that I had on social media and he shared it, and this is what he said when he shared it. This is the project that started it all for my new band, Slightly Famous Somebodies. Anna Kinney invited me and Laura Wiggins to contribute a Kevin Kinney cover song to this project as Laura and I had backed up Kevin and Peter Buck of R.E.M. on a small West Coast tour in 2011 and played in their touring band, and I had written, cast, and co-directed the Driving and Crying music video REM in 2010. I just think that's super cool because this is a guy that has been in, you know, different acting positions and, you know, different shows that people know, uh, including a current one. He's got this band that's got all these different people that are slightly famous, and you put them all together and they have this band and they do a uh a really good job. Um they had a song out not that long ago called Just Poor. They're working on an album that will be out in 2026. He directed a video for the song REM by Driving and Crying. We talked about that with Kevin Kinney, the first episode that Kevin was on, because I just thought it was super cool. And this is a guy that just connected in a bunch of different ways, and to have him share the post and write, you know, his, you know, adventures with the whole project was super cool. I appreciate it. So let's move to Keith and Ella J, Georgia. Dynamic Duo, Marvel Got Nothing on These T. Mark and Albany, Georgia. I absolutely love and adore these two. Listen and you will understand why. Only podcasts that I've ever listened to involve Kevin Kinney. Is it odd to get chill bumps from listening to these two people talk? You know what? If you get chill bumps from listening to them talk, it's okay, Mark. No problems here.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:On an Instagram comment, always enjoy Mims, which I think is fantastic because I kind of call it memes when I talk to certain people, so that the fact that this person called it mimes, and I don't know this person because I could see their picture, I don't know who they are.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So they called it mims. So always enjoy mimes, especially when Kevin Kinney is on. Love learning about Anna's art and how she's honoring Kevin's music with the help of his friends driving and crying forever. And that's I know that's a lot for people with driving and crying and about Kevin Kinney, but I think that shows you the connection he has with the community and you know how important he is to people and and what Anna's been doing. And we started the show off with the raffle and you know, here we go, here we go. So REM Live 1995, U2 Live 2005, and howl, owl, howl, live 2025, episode 106. Chuck in Salt Lake City, Utah says Jefferson Airplane to Jefferson Starship to Starship was the saddest decline of a band, in my opinion. I'm gonna go with that's a lot of people's opinions. Yeah. All right. And Andrew in Kenob, Utah. Now that's just so funny that two people from Utah comment about the same thing, echoes the sentiment with Starship, worst rebranding in the history of music.
SPEAKER_02:I and I will put a finer point on that. In my opinion, going from Jefferson Airplane to Jefferson Starship was not that much of a decline. I really one of the first records that I ever bought was Jane by Jefferson Starship. I think that's a great rock song.
SPEAKER_00:It is. You had uh Yorma and Jack Cassidy. They had left a band when it became Jefferson Starship.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, a great guitar in that song, you know. That's I I find when I look at the earliest records I bought, it's always ones with like really good guitar, you know, the Black and Black and Jane, and even like the Eagles. I bought Heartache Tonight because it had a really good guitar solo in it.
SPEAKER_00:Can't argue with that, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, so then to go from Jefferson Starship that did Jane to We Built This City Starship, wow. That's just falling off the cliff.
SPEAKER_00:But they made the most money off We Built This City. That goes to show you music is crazy. Music is crazy. I posted a video from the Howl Owl Howl show. She talks to Angels, which is done by Black Crows. It's got about 2,100 views. Callie in North Carolina says, Sing it, Darius, love it. Mark comments, it was a fantastic night and show. The band all looked like they were having a blast. I posted a video of them doing R.E.M.'s Don't Go Back to Rockville. It's got about 8,700 views on that. And that's a song that Mike Mills wrote about a girl that was going to leave Georgia to go back to Rockville, Maryland, because you know, over two years I didn't know there's a real Rockville. Yes. And uh it ended up being something that, you know, Mike started to sing later on in the later years of REM, and Mike sang it that night with the band, and then Darius would sing it with him. So it was pretty cool. So, Jimmy, on November 17, 1970, Elton John did a WABC FM radio broadcast in New York, and that uh was released as an album in 1971. WABC later became WPLJ. I've talked about them before. Yeah. I like this era of Elton John. It was just him on piano, D. Murray on bass, Nigel Olson on drums. And I just think it's super cool. It's a whole different feel than when um Davey joined on guitar. And I love Davey. Don't get me wrong. I love that, but I love this early Elton John. I love just the sounds that they get that you're not relying on any guitar to do anything. And I know that goes against everything that you stand for, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no. I appreciate piano too.
SPEAKER_00:It's really, really cool. He does Take Me to the Pilot, Honky Tonk Women, 60 Years On, Can I Put You On? Bad Side of the Moon, Burn Down the Mission, which is over 18 minutes long and includes, it's like a medley. It's got Get Back by the Beatles. It's just really super cool. And it's a whole different way to look at Elf and John than I'm Still Standing, or, you know, just it's it's really good. It really is. If you get a chance, check it out. It's kind of like a free-flow form for the band. They're playing, and you know, well, I can't see, but in my mind, it's kind of like they're looking, hey, how do we do this? More kind of like a like jazz people would do, or The Grateful Dead would do, you know, kind of playing off of each other. Right. And it's titled 171170. Like I said, it came out in 1971. If you get a chance, check it out. The Doors final concert with Jim Morrison was at the warehouse in New Orleans, Louisiana, December 12th, 1970. Morrison was highly impaired from all accounts, and he really struggled to stay up and struggle to sing. They opened up with Roadhouse Blues and they played some songs like Lover Madly when the music's over. They attempted Riders on the Storm. They did LA Woman, Light My Fire, they tried Riders on the Storm again and kind of got through it and finished with the song The End. How fitting that the last song that the Doors do with Jim Morrison is The End. Six and a half months later, Jim Morrison died in Paris, France. Let's revisit some more music in my shoes. You know what? I'm looking at the clock and it says tick, tick, tick. It's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Well, playing into that idea about me liking piano, I want to talk about uh the song by Little Richard Tootie Fruity. Now that is one of the most influential songs of all time, according to so many different sources. The song itself came out of frustration when he was in the studio and they were trying to get him to play a certain way. And he said, Well, I want to play this thing that I've been doing on tour, and it goes like this a wap baba loomop, wap bam boom. And the reason he said that was because that's how he wanted the drums to go at the beginning of it. But he was singing a drum part, and then that just became like the most iconic way to start a song ever. Tutti frutti was actually a type of ice cream, as people might know, which comes from the Italian word tootti frutti, which means all of the fruits. So it has bits of fruit in it. But his original thing wasn't Tutti Frutti Rudy, which means all right in slang. His original lyrics were tootti fruity good booty. And the the guy in the studio, the producer, was like, oh well, we can't do that. I'm gonna call in a lyricist that I know to rewrite your lyrics because that wasn't the only bad thing that his lyrics said. So he brought in Dorothy Labostri to change the lyrics. And then when she was interviewed about the song, she said, Oh no, little Richard didn't write that at all. I wrote it from the beginning. I went with my friend to get some ice cream and I said, Tootie Frutti, that's a really catchy thing. I should write a song about that. And I wrote the whole song myself. But if you look at the songwriting credits, she shares it with Little Richard.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I did not know that that song came out in 1955.
SPEAKER_02:1955.
SPEAKER_00:And a lot of times I'll hear a song or people will hear a song and they'll ask me what year, and I'm usually pretty good if I don't hit it on, I'm usually only off by a year. I would have been off on that song. Did not know it was 1955.
SPEAKER_02:That's how ahead of its time it was, how influential it was, because there was nothing else that sounded like that in 1955. There sure was not.
SPEAKER_00:Not at all.
SPEAKER_02:People were still trying to capture that kind of sound in 1958.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, I would have said 1958. That would have been the year that I picked. Yeah. So if I was in Back to the Future in 1955, and never mind, Jimmy, that was a good Minute with Junior. Right.
SPEAKER_02:Well, think think about that though. You know, when the the iconic scene in Back to the Future, when he says, It's your cousin, Marvin Barry, listen to this.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Like, well, Little Richard was already doing that, man.
SPEAKER_00:There you go. So, Jimmy, a little known fact is that that day that they go back to 1955 is November 5th, 1955.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:The Little Richard song came out in October and didn't really start to chart on the radio till later in November, and that's why they didn't pick Little Richard.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it's historically accurate.
SPEAKER_00:It is. That's cool. Isn't it crazy how that works out?
SPEAKER_02:That is.
SPEAKER_00:Woo! Hey, day after Thanksgiving, I watch Back to the Future One, Two, and Three, Back to Back to Back. So good. And I've done this once before. I did this when my kids were young a long time ago, uh around Christmas time, but I just did it again, and it just kind of happened by chance. That was not the intent. We started watching uh the first one, and then it just kind of led up to, well, let's just watch the next one, and then the next one. And it is so cool, and you pick up on so much more when you watch them back to back to back.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So Did you have a favorite?
SPEAKER_00:The original. I would I would just go with the original. Because in parts two and three, they go back to the original so many times. There's times where it's like, I gotta hit pause because they're back and they're looking at themselves, and and you can't keep up with it. You just can't.
SPEAKER_02:You can't. It's it's really, really clever.
SPEAKER_00:And I like your minute with Jimmy's when they become much longer because there's a lot of to talk about.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, good. Thanks.
SPEAKER_00:You're welcome. Very good minute with Jimmy. So, Jimmy, I want to end the show with the Jim Carroll band, People Who Died. It peaked at number 103 on the Billboard bubbling under Hot 100 chart in December 1980. So a couple of things here. I don't think I've talked about that chart before. And the chart is like, why do you even need to have that chart? It didn't make the top hundred. You know, it used to be what's the top 40, then it's the top hundred. This is number 103 on the bubbling under Hot 100 chart in December of 1980. A song about different people that Jim Carroll knew that had died, you know, from from, you know, when he was young up until about the time he released the song, a punky pop song. I really looked forward to this coming on the radio again back in 1980. You heard songs, if you didn't own the record, you had to wait till it came on. And when it came on, it's like you just stopped and you would just listen to it.
SPEAKER_02:I requested that song a lot on Album 88. That was the only station in Atlanta that would play it.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Yeah. So those are people who died, died, they were all friends, and just died. The album, Catholic Boy, is a pretty good album. It truly, truly is. And when you listen to it, it kind of takes me back to maybe like uh more polished, um you know, like the n late 1970s punk and like uh, you know, Johnny Thunders, and like it just reminds me of all of that type of music, and I just love listening to it. Um Wicked Gravity, It's Too Late, I think are just really, really good songs. And that they just don't get credit that they really should the way that, you know, I I I just think that people think that Jim Carroll was just this, you know, junky poet guy that, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio did the movie, the basketball diary.
SPEAKER_02:Right, great movie.
SPEAKER_00:And that he he was talented. I mean, his band was really good. I mean, Lenny Kay was on a future album by him. I think on this album, I think Bobby Keys um was played saxophone. If I'm not mistaken, I think Rolling Stone Records was actually interested in signing him because Bobby Keyes was like, you gotta check him out, you gotta check him out, you gotta check him out. Bobby Keys was the saxophone player for the Rolling Stones on their best songs all back in the early 70s. Any song that you listen to, he was the man, and he loved Jim Carroll.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Now, in the cover of Catholic Boy, he's with an older couple. I've always assumed that's his parents.
SPEAKER_00:That is his parents. Yeah. It is his parents.
SPEAKER_02:So he's a good Catholic boy.
SPEAKER_00:You know what? Those are the people who died who died. Unfortunately, Jim Carroll did as well.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know, I used to love that song. I would play that song like it was on all my mixtapes I made through high school and everything, and I just loved kind of rocking out to that song. But that was kind of before I knew any people that died, you know, other than you know, maybe a grandparent or something. And now that's the song's a little different listening to it now. It's like, wow, it's bittersweet. Wow, he really did know uh have a lot of friends that that died and people in his life.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. What was it? Tony thought he could fly, but he couldn't.
SPEAKER_02:Tony couldn't fly, Tony died. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, on that note, Jimmy, that's it from Music in My Shoes. You can reach us at musicinmyshoes at gmail.com. I know I've mentioned it before in the show, but I'll mention it once again because if you want to contact us, get on the Music in My Shoes mailbag, have a comment about anything, you can reach us there. Please like and follow the Music in My Shoes Facebook and Instagram pages. That's it for episode 109 of Music in My Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios, located right here in Atlanta, Georgia, and Vic Drill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing.
