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A Charlie Brown Christmas, The Grinch, and Bruce Springsteen Sings Santa Claus is Comin' to Town E110

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The holidays don’t just look a certain way—they sound a certain way. We dive into how a fragile cartoon tree, a swingy piano motif, and a handful of offbeat movie moments grew into the soundtrack of December. From the first Peanuts special to stop‑motion Santa to a green recluse in Whoville, we trace the songs, voices, and production choices that turned seasonal TV and film into enduring ritual.

• Charlie Brown Christmas as a symbol of hope and the choice to use children’s voices
• Vince Guaraldi’s jazz and the quick birth of Christmas Time Is Here
• Rankin/Bass stop motion craft and Paul Frees’ vocal range
• Home Alone’s John Williams score 
• Jim Carrey’s Grinch, Faith Hill’s hit, and Taylor Momsen’s new version
• Donny Hathaway’s representation and the rise of This Christmas
• Greg Lake’s critique of commercialism across decades
• Springsteen’s rock‑forward holiday cuts 
• Oddities that stick: Feliz Navidad’s 19 words and Sabbath’s December chart stat

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SPEAKER_02:

Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music in My Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 110. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. Jimmy, 60 years ago in December 1965, a Charlie Brown Christmas debuted on TV. 60. 60 years. 60 years, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It's a cool uh episode.

SPEAKER_02:

It's just crazy. So Charlie Brown, Snoopy and the gang, they come together for an animated version of the Peanuts comic strip. And kind of Charlie Brown's search for the true meaning of Christmas is kind of what the episode is all about. And who can forget the tree that Charlie Brown picks out at the lot? Yeah, I love it. And that's how you get the name now of a Charlie Brown Christmas tree, because it's this tree that barely could hold one ornament on it, and it was this tiny little, you know, ph it was barely alive. How about that?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but like Lina said, it just needed a little love.

SPEAKER_02:

It needed a little love. And, you know, he picks it because it was the last living tree, you know, in the lot. I think they had a bunch of aluminum. You remember they used to have aluminum trees?

SPEAKER_01:

No, that's the thing, is I only know aluminum trees from a Charlie Brown Christmas.

SPEAKER_02:

Really?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I've never actually seen an aluminum tree.

SPEAKER_02:

They did have those at one time. Thank the Lord, it was before my time.

SPEAKER_01:

It must have been like 1965 was.

SPEAKER_02:

So his tree represents hope and resilience. And kind of like what you just said about Linus saying, you know, it needs a little love and what, you know, having some hope and belief and how it can change something from something that doesn't look the best into something that is fantastic. I mean, I can't think of anything else that would represent that.

SPEAKER_01:

I love a Charlie Brown Christmas. I don't know if you want to keep talking about it, but I I really love that. Do you really? That's special, yeah. And so, first of all, Charlie Brown had only been Peanuts had only been a comic strip. It had never been made into any kind of moving animation on TV or movie or anything. So Charles Schultz got the commission to, okay, we want you to do a Christmas special because Peanuts was really popular at the time. And he's like, oh my gosh, how do we do this? We only have a few months to put this together. We've never done full-on animation. We don't know what the characters' voices sound like. And at that point, most car cartoon characters with kids were being done by adult actors pretending to be a kid. Won, won't, yeah. But no, but you know, if you had a child in, I don't know, in a Looney Tunes thing, it was it was an adult that was imitating a child doing that voice.

SPEAKER_02:

Wasn't uh like Mel Blanc, wasn't he one of the voices, the the big time voices?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he did most of those characters. So yeah, if there was a little boy in it, it was Mel Blanc uh pretending to be a little boy. I like the uh foreign version, Mel Blanc. Mel Blanc, yeah, that's when he was drinking white wine, I think he called himself that. Gotcha. So they decided to use all real children for the voices, which I think is one of the things that gave it so much appeal that it has. And then he came across the music of Vince Giraldi and asked Vince if he could write some music for this special they were gonna do. So the first thing he writes is that familiar tune that we all know, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and called it Linus and Lucy. And Charles Schultz was like, Oh my gosh, that is perfect for the Christmas special. It ended up being perfect for every peanuts thing after that, but it was originally written just for the Christmas special. So he wrote a lot of other music, and really close to the deadline when this needed to be turned in, they thought, well, we need more songs with lyrics. And Vince had written all instrumental songs. So he needed lyrics, and Lee Mendelssohn, the producer of the special, actually wrote them in about 10 minutes. Christmas time is here.

SPEAKER_02:

Happiness and cheer and cheer. Fun for all that little children call their favorite time of the year.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so he wrote that really quickly. They got the kids to sing it to the tune that Vince had written, and yeah, now it's actually a popular Christmas song.

SPEAKER_02:

And it is, it it's a good one, and I think that without the animation, without the songs, without Vince without all of this, I don't think that I would really be big into the Peanuts comics the way that I was back in the day. Right. I think that this added this whole nother dimension that drew me into it.

SPEAKER_01:

Definitely.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, and and being a kid at the time really drew me into it, you know, as compared to just reading the comic strip. So one of the things is that uh the original boy that did Charlie Brown, when he was fourteen, he aged out. So they had to bring another person in that would go and do the lines. But they kept his ARG, that was always him. Oh, really? Yes, they kept that. And I don't know if I said it the right way. I know I did the won wah wah wah. Yeah. That's pretty good. Sometimes when I'm talking, Jimmy does does it sound like me just hey, so everybody, welcome to music in my shoes. Never. Well, good, that's good to know. Uh, you know, I think that, you know, Vince Garaldi, when he did that, and that exposed me to uh music that I really wasn't listening to. And, you know, I I I always liked Elton John and I always liked Billy Joel, you know, people that play the piano. But this was like a whole nother style that I didn't know a whole lot about. And especially as a kid, I was like, man, this is pretty cool. And even the stuff that wasn't uh that didn't have words was still pretty cool. I liked it. I definitely did, without a doubt.

SPEAKER_01:

We got jazz from Vince Garaldi, and also you remember on Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, they had some good like piano jazz going along with all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Please won't you be my neighbor. So this is what I think is kind of ironic, Jimmy, is that we talked about the Christmas tree. And it was, I believe, and and maybe I'm wrong, but I think it was the last live tree in the slot. But you can go online today in 2025 and buy an artificial Charlie Brown Christmas tree that looks just like it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And I just find that that is just hysterical.

SPEAKER_01:

But it's at least it's not aluminum.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not aluminum.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it is not. So here's a funny story. In my front yard, we don't have very many big trees in my front yard. Um, and we just kind of have like whatever, a crepe myrtle. And we there are no pine trees around. Any of my neighbors, we don't have a pine tree, I don't believe, in any of the yards. But somehow, from under a rock in my front yard, this little pine pine tree started growing. And, you know, when you're pulling weeds, you're kind of a little thing like that that wasn't planted, you're gonna pull it. We thought, I'm not gonna pull that little pine tree. Like, where'd that come from? Some a bird brought that here or something. I don't know, I'm gonna leave it for a minute. And then next thing you know, it's like a Charlie Brown Christmas tree. It was it was about two or three feet tall. It had like one branch. So we put one ornament on it really and dressed it up for Christmas a couple of years ago. And now the Charlie Brown tree is uh whatever, it's eight feet tall. It's getting to be a good sized pine tree. We're keeping it.

SPEAKER_02:

There you go. And one day you're gonna have to pay hundreds of dollars to have it removed so it doesn't hit your house.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, thanks, Jim. That's that's the spirit of Christmas.

SPEAKER_02:

But remember all of this when you have to do that. Yeah. So if we move on, Santa Claus is coming to town, the television Christmas special premiered five years later in December of 1970. And it looked like it was animated, but it wasn't. So it was kind of like that stop motion photography thing where you have like things made of plastic or wood or whatever it is, and you just make them, you know, you you m move their arm or their leg or whatever it is a little bit and take a picture and then move it. And and if you think about all of the the different characters that were in some scenes, I mean this I can't even imagine having to do that. Like that must be crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

For sure. Yeah. And they didn't have any kind of Photoshop or any ability to, it was all like a real picture that they planned out exactly where everybody's gonna be. You know, it was it was a lot of planning, a lot of technique. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_02:

But it's cool when you watch it. It's a a cool way to see, because you know it's not animated, and you're kind of like, it it almost looks like it's not 3D from when you watch a uh uh animation, it's not 3D. But when you watch the stop motion, it looks like the objects are 3D-ish.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, they have some depth of field. Yes, yes. And there's some shadows on things.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

It's just super cool. So it tells the story of how Santa Claus came to be and how it almost didn't happen because of Burgermeister, Meister Burger. I just love saying that uh name. There's a few good songs, including the first Toymakers to the King, and then after Burgermeister falls and gets hurt, the song No More Toy Makers to the King, and put one foot in front of the other, and soon you'll be walking across the floor. Put one foot in front of the other, and soon you'll be walking out the door. That is Mickey Rooney as Chris Kringle singing with the winter warlock, and Fred Astaire does the voice of the mailman, the special delivery guy that starts off, and I guess he's kind of, you know, making package deliveries and everything. But that is just some, you know, key people to have part of your animation. So Paul Fries is the voice of Bergemeister, as well as more than ten other characters in this episode. He does a ton of different things.

SPEAKER_01:

Probably the kids too.

SPEAKER_02:

He does, I think uh I think he does the Kringle brothers, he does a bunch of different things. He was also the voice of Boris on the Rocky and Bullwinkle show from 1959 to 1964. He was the voice of John Lennon and George Harrison on the Beatles cartoon from 1965 to 1967.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Is that not crazy? Like all of those different voices, like when I hear the Burgermeister, I don't hear John Lennon.

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, I don't hear Boris from from the Rocky and Bullwinkle show.

SPEAKER_01:

And what was his name?

SPEAKER_02:

Paul Freeze, F-R-E-E-S, Santa Claus and the Traffic Cop in Frosty of the Snowman. His voice too. Makes sense. I mean, it's just crazy. One of my favorite television Christmas specials of all time. I still watch that every single year.

SPEAKER_01:

It's sitting on my D V R waiting to be watched right now.

SPEAKER_02:

Is it? Yeah. I I love it. I love it. So let's move up. Home Alone, released November 16th, 1990. Fun Christmas uh movie, McAllister family. They fly to Paris for Christmas. Kevin gets left at home. Uh Kevin's played by Macaulay Calkin, Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern as Harry and Marv, couple of local thieves, couple of you know, local thugs breaking into people's houses while they're away for the holidays. And this movie is scored by John Williams, and it it's just a classic. Just watching the movie itself, but then if you take the music, the music is just fantastic. You know, this is music in my shoes, and we started out with with um a Charlie Brown Christmas, which we talked about the music with it. Right. You know, we just moved over to um Santa Claus Come to Town's got some good tunes in it. And here we are with Home Alone, that again with John Williams and just has a ton of really good music that makes the the movie everything, you know, that it is. I I'd like to believe that most people have seen Home Alone at one point or another.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I've seen it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, if you've seen it, then everybody has had to see it.

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Shh.

SPEAKER_01:

What's that? A little shade there.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you remember in Home Alone where Fuller, he's one of the younger brothers of Kevin, and he drinks Pepsi and leads to the famous line where they go Fuller go easy on the Pepsi because he would wet the bed at night. And if you remember in Paris, you could see them putting like plastic sheets or plastic something on and everything.

SPEAKER_01:

It happens.

SPEAKER_02:

So I right now am wearing my Fuller go easy on the Pepsi sweatshirt.

SPEAKER_01:

It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02:

That I only break out at Christmas time. I do like Pepsi. I know we don't talk a lot a lot about brand names here, but that is my my uh cola of choice. But this is a sweatshirt that uh people that I used to work with chipped in and they got for me, and I just find it just so funny and so fitting for me, and especially here as we do the holiday edition of Music in My Shoes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's great. So just to let people know, you know, it says Fuller across the top. It's a white T a white uh sweatshirt with black lettering, Fuller, and then it has a picture of the kid with his suspenders on. Go easy on the Pepsi. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And it's got the old school 1990 Pepsi.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. Yeah, the old school Pepsi. Yes. Makes a difference.

SPEAKER_02:

It does make a difference. So, Jimmy, let's go ten years later, how the Grinch Stole Christmas released November 17th, 2000. This is the live action film with Jim Carrey, which I have to say, I think Jim Carrey does an outstanding job as the Grinch. When you look at his facial movements, I don't really think that it's Jim Carrey when I'm watching it. That it he just does such a great job with the makeup. You know, his eyes do look a little Jim Carrey-ish, but other than that, i it's it's fantastic. I just gotta tell you. I mean, he really, really does. You know, as most people know, Hooville is celebrating Christmas and the Grinch wants nothing to do with it and comes up with a plan to spoil it for everyone. And, you know, if you haven't seen it, go see it. It's fantastic. I'm sure that you have. I'm sure everybody has seen it, whether they've seen the original animated or they have seen the live action with Jim Carrey.

SPEAKER_01:

I just watched the original animated last night.

SPEAKER_02:

The original animated was narrated by Boris Karloff.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02:

And the narrator for the live action is Anthony Hopkins. And I was just waiting for him to say, Good evening, Clarice. Oh, right. Yeah. I'm cracking myself up. I have been wanting to say that all day.

SPEAKER_01:

Silence of the lambs, for those of you out there wondering what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_02:

So Faith Hill had the big hit song with Where Are You Christmas. In the movie, Cindy Louhu sings Christmas, Why Can't I Find You, which is Where Are You Christmas, but it has less lyrics. Okay. So what had happened is that was written, and then Mariah Carey got the song, and she added additional lyrics that she could sing and do the Mariah stuff. Mariah recorded a version, but was legally blocked from releasing it because she was getting a divorce from her husband, who I believe ran Sony music at the time. And he said, No, you can't do it. So hence Faith Hill did it, and most people know the Faith Hill version, which is pretty good. So, like I said, Cindy Louhu sings the song. She's played by Taylor Mommsen. She's in a band, The Pretty Reckless, and they just released a new version of the song that's pretty rockin'. It just came out. It has a little girl's voice in the beginning starting it, and then it goes into a rock version, and then her, you know, as however old she is now going into it. I like it. It's pretty cool. It really is. So in November 2025, Taylor and Jim Carrey reunited for the first time since the Grinch. And it was at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, 25 years since they last saw each other, and they're meeting up because they were both taking part in the induction of Soundgarden into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Jim Carrey did the induction speech, and Taylor was part of the band that sang, you know, some of the Soundgarden songs. I just think that's pretty cool. I really do that you don't see each other for 25 years after being in one of the biggest movies of all time, and then boom, you're there because you're part of Soundgarden's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah. Whew! Man, that's a lot. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. You ready to do it? Sure. All right, let's give it a try.

SPEAKER_03:

And you deck the halls to. This is Jim and Jimmy singing you a himmy. Happy holidays from music in my shoes.

SPEAKER_02:

Jimmy, that was fantastic. Thank you. Happy holidays, Jimmy.

SPEAKER_01:

Happy holidays. Great job.

SPEAKER_02:

That was, you know, honestly, that was really the first time that we've really tried to do the song. That was great.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, people can believe it, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02:

Why? By listening? Yes. You don't think they think that we've worked on it 50 times and, you know overdubbed and everything?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you're probably right. But you know what else is right, Jimmy? Tick, tick, tick. It's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute Minute with Jimmy.

SPEAKER_01:

So you know the Andy Williams song, The Most Wonderful Time of the Year? I do. So that was originally written by his musical director, George Weill, for the Andy Williams show on TV. And they just wrote it for their Christmas episode. It wasn't supposed to be a song that they were releasing that was going to be a hit, you know, forever, and people would be listening to it 60 years later. But that's what it turned into. They they wrote this little song for him to come out at the beginning of the show and sing a song for the audience, and then uh next thing you know, it's turned into an international tradition.

SPEAKER_02:

And it's made it the most wonderful time of the year just listening to the song.

SPEAKER_01:

It is. And he talks about scary ghost stories. Apparently, that was just a little thing that was on the show, you know, and uh some of these other things. Yeah, tales of the glories of Christmas is long, long ago. So just uh they were just talking about what was going to be on the show.

SPEAKER_02:

His voice is perfect for it.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, so good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Hey, I like that minute with Jimmy.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02:

I really do. Keeping in the holiday spirit, I love it. Woo! My name was Jimmy. Let's revisit some more music in my shoes. Jackson 5, Santa Claus is coming to town, and I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus released October 15th, 1970. Wow, mommy's kissing Santa Claus. Michael Jackson starts off the song, but he cracks me up later when he says, I did. I really did see mommy kissing Santa Claus, and I'm gonna tell my dad. I just love that. That that draws me to the song all the time. I don't know why, but it does. Let's stay in 1970, Jose Feliciano, Feliz Navidad released November 9th. A fun, joyous sing-along song that only has 19 words. There's only 19 different words in this entire song, if you think about it. I want to wish you a Merry Christmas from the bottom of my heart. It says Feliz Navidad a ton, but if you count the words like I did, 19 different. Jose was blind, and in 1968, he had a top three hit with a cover of The Doors Light My Fire. Do you remember that one?

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

Give it a listen. It is great. It is a whole different feel. And even the doors said that they really appreciated him doing that because a lot of people that didn't like the doors that didn't know the doors, they listened to his version, and then like, oh, let me check this band out because this is a really cool song.

SPEAKER_01:

Now I heard that he was in the studio just kind of like checking his mic, and it was Christmas time. So he just started playing some chords and singing Feliz Navidad. And then the engineer and producer were like, Well, what is that? He's like, No, I'm just just making it up. And they said, Well, we gotta make that into a song, and that's that's how where it came from.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, he was homesick, so he wanted to, you know, then go a little bit further and and write words that you know made him feel good at a time that he was kind of homesick. So it was good. He wanted to wish us a Merry Christmas, and he did. From the bottom of his heart. He still is 55 years later. Staying in 1970, December 9th, Donnie Hathaway, This Christmas was released. Hang on the mistletoe, I'm gonna get to know you better this Christmas. Now I have to tell you, this is one of my favorite Christmas songs, but I don't remember it a whole lot considering it was released in 1970. But it didn't become a Christmas classic until 1991 when an updated Soul Christmas compilation album came out that it started to hit the masses with people. And I actually did get that Soul Christmas in 1991, and I think that's where I heard it for the first time, and I'm like, I just never heard this song before. If I'm not mistaken, I think it it hit like number 13 maybe in 1970 on like the Christmas charts, but then it kind of faded away after that first year. I really like this song, it's uplifting and it's hopeful.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and apparently Hathaway really wanted to write a song that represented African Americans in Christmas music because he felt like the Christmas songs, all the Christmas songs out there were kind of, you know, mainly written by white people. And so he he wrote this great song that he thought encapsulated the African American Christmas that he knew, and uh and it was a big hit.

SPEAKER_02:

Was a big hit, and it still is. I mean, it's one of the most played Christmas songs every year. I believe in Father Christmas, Greg Lake, released November 1975. So Greg Lake, he was in King Crimson, he was in Emerson Lake and Palmer, did this as a solo song, and how you know he thought about Christmas becoming so commercialized. And that's 50 years ago, Jimmy. And here he's talking about Christmas being overcommercialized 50 years ago when you look at what it's like today. It's just amazing, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

And that's mainly what Charlie Brown Christmas was about 60 years ago.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct. And you know, 50 years from now there'll be a song coming out saying, I wish it was like 2025 all over again. You know, we always think that it was better back in the day than you know what it was, you know, compared to previous Christmases. Bruce Springsteen of the E Street Band Santa Claus is coming to town, recorded on December 12th, 1975 at the former CW Post College on Long Island, which I think is now Long Island University. What a rocking Christmas song. Hey band, you guys know what time of year it is. What time? Huh? What? What? Oh Christmas time. This song was just unbelievable because to me it's a rock song that just happens to sing about Christmas the way that they do it. It's not like any other Santa Claus has come into town where you think of it as a Christmas song. This truly is a rock song, and and hearing it as a kid, it was just like there wasn't a whole bunch of rock songs that were Christmas, you know, in in in the day. And I just loved it. I thought it was fantastic.

SPEAKER_01:

I feel like he kind of did, it was playing off of the Jackson 5 version, though, I think, too. You know, it wasn't because there was the original Santa Claus has come into town, you know, the traditional one, and then there kind of changes the cadence.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they definitely do. And then Bruce took it one notch even further.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, it made it made it a rock song.

SPEAKER_02:

Made it a rock song. So back in Christmas 89, I had a camcorder. I've talked about it before, one of those big, huge camcorders that you had a rest on your shoulder. Right. And I think I got it in 1989, if I'm not mistaken. And I made a video using Bruce's Santa Claus, and I remember having to tell everyone, hey, you gotta be quiet because I had to put the 45 on the stereo, and you gotta be quiet while I'm making this video. And I started off like on an ornament, you know, zooming in on this ornament on my mom's tree, and then zooming out, and then like zooming back into a different ornament. And my mom had uh a cat, Katie the Cat, that was underneath the tree, and I would like every once in a while quickly pan over to the cat under the tree, then back up to an ornament, and and I think it became known as the cat video, even though it was a Christmas song, Santa Claus is coming to town. But it was just this cool video that I made back in 89. I wish that I could find it. So staying with Bruce Springsteen, Merry Christmas Baby was recorded on either December 28th or December 31st, 1980, at the Nassau Coliseum on Long Island. And it was released in 1987 on a very special Christmas. And I always thought it was the 31st. I always thought it came out the 31st. But I started to do some more research and a lot more is saying that it came out on the twenty-eighth. I know it didn't come out the twenty-ninth because I've heard the twenty-ninth version, and it's definitely different. So I got a pinpoint, not that it really makes a difference, but I'm one of those people, like if I say it came out this day, I want it to be the day that it actually came out.

SPEAKER_01:

He really does.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's just another It's true. Just another rocking Christmas song. Merry Christmas, baby. You surely treat me nice. Come on. I feel just like I'm living in paradise. I love the song, it's a really good song. Keeping in the Holiday Spirit, Black Sabbath Paranoid peaked at number 61 on Billboard Hot 100, December 26th, 1970, the day after Christmas. And what says Christmas more than Ozzie Osborne?

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Finished with my woman because she couldn't help me with my mind. People think I'm insane because I am frowning all the time. Merry Christmas. The song is ranked number 13 on the 2023 Billboard 100 Greatest Heavy Metal Songs of All Time. Woo! Merry Christmas.

SPEAKER_01:

That's too low. I think it deserves to be higher.

SPEAKER_02:

I do too, honestly. And I didn't look at the list. I should have looked at the list to see what the other songs were. Off the top of my head, it should be in the top five. Yeah. In the top five. Without having to think. You know, one of those things where you don't have to think, it should be in the top five.

SPEAKER_01:

It's like saying Ringo is the sixth best Beatle. Like what?

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm the sixth best Beatle.

SPEAKER_01:

You are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's me. No, no, you know what? I'm giving myself too much credit. I think I should be the seventh.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so you got the four, and then you got George Martin, then who's six?

SPEAKER_02:

Um I would probably put um Mal Evans.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay. Mal, but no uh Brian Epstein. Brian Epstein, no Pete Best.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, no, I wouldn't. I mean a short period of time, but if you look over the whole length of the Beatles, and you know, I know Brian Epstein died in 1967, but was just a major influence on them.

SPEAKER_01:

So maybe you're eight then.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you got bumped by Epstein.

SPEAKER_02:

Maybe I could stay in the top ten. You know, they did a song, Christmas Time is Here Again. Ringo covered it. So that was our Christmas holiday special. I hope everyone out there enjoyed it as much as we did. Um, coming to you live from Atlanta, Georgia. And if you want to reach out to us, you can. MusicInMyshoes at gmail.com. Please like and follow the Music in My Shoes Facebook and Instagram pages. That's it for episode 110 of Music in My Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of our K160 Studios. Like I said, located here in Atlanta, GA, Vic Thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, ho ho ho! Live life and keep the music playing.

SPEAKER_03:

Happy holidays from music in my shoes.

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