Athfest 2026, A Proposal, and A Life of Illusion E139

Athens, Georgia can humble you fast: one minute you’re chasing a band you’ve never heard of, the next you’re packed into a legendary room watching the kind of guest appearance people talk about for years. We’re back from Athfest with a full set of field notes, from the festival’s free outdoor stages to the wristband club crawl that turns Athens into a choose-your-own-adventure for live music fans. Along the way we run into familiar friends, swap stories about who lit up the night, and dig into what makes the current Athens music scene feel alive beyond the old-school mythology.

We also get into the moments that make festivals stick in your memory even more than the setlists: getting caught in a downpour and watching strangers dance like it’s the best weather on earth, then sprinting between rooms like the Georgia Theater and the 40 Watt Club for can’t-miss performances. There are shoutouts to artists tied to the show, talk about stage presence, and a few perfect “how did I not know this band?” discoveries that remind us why we keep showing up.

Then the conversation swerves in the best way, from a hidden proposal mission in Founders Garden (mosquitoes included) to the Joe Walsh's "A Life of Illusion". If you like Athens, live music, festival recaps, and the stories that orbit the songs, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave us a review.

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Welcome And Athfest Basics

SPEAKER_03 0:12

Got the feel in it out go.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music in My Shoes, Podcasting Worldwide. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 139. I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. So, Jimmy, this past weekend we got to hang out together. We were in Athens, Georgia. We went to Athfest. Yeah. And why don't you explain a little bit about Athfest?

SPEAKER_00 0:49

So Athfest is a usually June uh festival they have in Athens. They have outdoor stages, two outdoor stages, and everything uh on those is free. So anybody can come and watch the bands during the day. And then they have a club crawl at night where you get a wristband. If you get it early, I think it's $25 or something. And uh later maybe it goes up to $35 and 40. But it gets you into every music venue in town, which there are a lot of them, and uh all weekend long, so it's a really good deal.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

Yeah, and they kind of try and pick uh bands that are from Athens. That would that be a fair statement?

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Yeah, I think uh most of them are. Uh they at least all have like an Athens connection.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

And that's what kind of makes it cool, because it gives an opportunity if you live there to get see bands that you like, but for someone like me that doesn't, I get to see some bands that I get exposed to for the first time, and it's a a pretty cool thing, a cool time.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

It is, and you get to uh kind of get a sense of what the Athens sound is like now. You know, because it's not REM B 52s anymore.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Or a pylon. Or pylon. Not at all. Yeah. What's cool about it is, you know, this is the second year in a row that I've gone with you along with some other friends, and we go and see kind of what bands or artists we want to see, and then we might meet up, and then we separate, and then we're back together and doing stuff, and it just, you know, you have an opportunity to do things, and you don't have to feel like you have to be in the same spot the whole day, like you do at a lot of festivals where you're like, Oh, I I got my spot and I'm camped out here, I can't go anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

And it's pretty easy to move around. The crowds aren't really packed in too tight, and you can get everywhere really quickly. You know, it's a small town.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Yeah, and they have uh like an artist market, all kinds of different things, whether it's painting or jewelry or drawings or whatever it might be. Uh it's fun for all, stuff for the kids too. That's right. We're hyping it up after it's over, hyping it up for 2027.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Only 358 days to Last Fest.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

There you go.

Friday Finds And Familiar Friends

SPEAKER_01 3:06

So on Friday night, I got there and a band called Improvement Movement was playing. Never heard of them before, and definitely liked some of the songs that they played. I thought they were jamming out, I thought they were pretty good. I enjoyed it, it was definitely fun. And I happened to run into friends of the show that were talking with you and your wife, uh Jess Thompson and Jade Long of Hotel Fiction. Yeah. You know, they were on the show episodes 35 and 49, and we're now on episode 139. It's been a minute. Yeah. The first time they were on was over a hundred episodes ago. Wow. Yeah, and they were in studio here with us on episode 49. So it was great seeing them, talking with them. They have a new album that will be coming out. They're playing at Shaky Knees here in Atlanta in September. So it was uh great vibe to be meeting up with some of the people that have been on the show while we were there in Athfest. Any other bands you saw Friday night that you liked?

SPEAKER_00 4:13

Let's see. Friday night I really loved Hefner. They were my favorite band of 2025 at Athfest, and they didn't disappoint this year. Yeah, it was a really good show. It's led by a guy whose last name is Hefner. I don't I don't know his first name, but he's really good front man, plays guitar, sometimes he puts the guitar down, which is okay because they have three other guitarists in the band, right? They've got a guy that plays keyboards, sometimes guitar, they have two other dedicated guitarists, and then they have a bass player and a drummer.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Yeah, and they were really good. I did not see them last year, and I really enjoyed them. And I I definitely thought the front man really was good and and did a good job. I thought he sang well, played the guitar well. Uh real good job up there.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Yeah, I really like his his songwriting. And then we went over to Nowhere Bar, which is a real dive bar, which I like, has a bunch of pool tables and uh smaller stage, and we saw She Hee He, who uh were really loved them.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

They're a good punk band that you know they're a three-piece. I've never seen them before, but I enjoyed every song that they played. It was real fun listening to them.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

It's almost like somewhere between Joan Jett, the Ramones, with a little bit of ACDC thrown in there.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

I think that it would be a good way to describe them. And it was definitely good. I, you know, that was one of the bands where it's like, wow, man, how did I not know about them? You know, because I know that they come out and they'll play in Atlanta. Don't know much, but I definitely enjoyed

Rainy Day Sets And Pure Joy

SPEAKER_01 5:52

it. Saturday, I went during the day, I saw Karma Cat, I saw Dangfly, it was a downpour. Yeah. But I was under one of the tents, didn't get wet at all, but it was still, you know, enjoyable. Even without a belt. Even without a belt. I forgot my belt on Saturday. I had to keep pulling my shorts up. But what was interesting is that during uh in between both of those bands, it absolutely was pouring. And they had, you know, music on that they'll play when the show's not happening, you know, in between sets. And these two girls were just dancing in the rain like nobody was there, and that it wasn't raining, and it was just great. They just had a blast, they were enjoying themselves. Aaron Ross Powell High on Life. Yeah, basically. And then ended up at the Georgia Theater later that night, saw Cannon Rogers, another friend of the show, and Jess of Hotel Fiction, who I just mentioned, sang with Canon on the last two songs.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Yeah, and Aaron from Hotel Fiction joined him on guitar for the set.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

There you go. And and Cannon's another person who kind of, you know, he rules the stage. He, you know, definitely has some charisma while he's up there, knows what he's doing, and it's fun to watch him. You know, we saw him playing the pedal steel back with Cracker back in like March of 2024, I think it was. And to see him on stage, and I know you've seen him on stage before as well, it's just a great time watching him. A lot of fun there at the Georgia Theater, and you know, it was enjoyable. Um, after that, headed over to the 40 watt, got to see Elf Power. I enjoyed them. I've heard of them, I've never heard of anything by them. I

Late Night Legends And Surprise Guests

SPEAKER_01 7:45

definitely enjoyed it. Um, last song, Peter Buck joined them, did a cover. It was great.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

So Elf Power, I had seen them uh maybe once before, but Andrew Ryger, who's the singer of Elf Power, when he first moved to Athens in the late 80s, apparently the first band that he saw in Athens was my band, The Violets. And so he told our drummer Jay, who uh works in the record industry about that. And so when we put out the Violets album a few years ago, Andrew wrote the liner notes for us. Really? That was cool.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Very cool. I like that. Yeah. Uh after Elf Power was Kevin Kinney and Peter Buck, and that was great. You know, it was just listed as Kevin Kinney. You know, I think everybody felt that Peter Buck was definitely gonna join him. It was a good show, definitely had fun.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

And then the slightly famous somebody's wait, we're doing we're just skipping right over everything that Kevin Kenney did. I mean, I really liked that I got to hear some Kevin Kinney songs that I hadn't heard in a while. Like he did uh Another Scarlet Butterfly. I don't think I'd heard him play that in in years. You know, he rotates through his catalog, but uh that's one off of Scar But Smarter, his first album. And then he also played Catch the Wind from the second album, um Whisper Tames the Lion.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

When you see Kevin Kenny every two weeks, like I do, you hear all the songs.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

Yeah. Well, maybe you don't see him as often. I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

I see him too much. I know that I do. I know that I do. I I thought it was good. I thought they did fantastic. Um, like I said, they added slightly famous somebodies, you know, kind of built the band up so that they could play some more songs. And it was um it was cool. Kevin was done, slightly famous somebodies came on. But it was, you know, it was real interesting. You know, talked to Kevin a little bit before the show, and you know, always good to see him. But Laura Slade Wiggins, who was on two episodes not that long ago here with Slightly Famous Somebodies, I talked to her before she went on, and she was extremely nervous and was like, I'm playing with Peter.

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Well, they had a very famous somebody or two on stage.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Yes, they did. And then they were gonna play their, you know, only their second show that they've ever done a slightly famous somebody.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Yeah, I heard Jonathan say that. I didn't realize that.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

Yes, the first show they did was last year, I saw it.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

You've seen every show they've ever done.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

I've seen every show. Uh yeah, I'm gonna get a t-shirt, I think, that that mentions that for sure. I talked to Valor Trucks, guitarist for Slightly Famous Somebodies. He was on the show. That's the son of Butch Trucks. So I talked to him after the show. He was asking me how the sound was, how it sounded, you know, was asking me a bunch about it. I'm like, it was great. Everything sounded really good, so he was real happy to see that. I asked him to come back on the show and me and you and him listen to London Calling Track for Track and see if we can change his mind on some of the songs. And then I heard from Canon Rogers, and he was on uh episode 24, I want to say it was. And, you know, he was excited, he heard we were there, and he says he absolutely loves the episode that he was on, and he gets people to listen to it. And, you know, it's just good when you know you can stay in contact with people and see good things happening for people. And you know, I definitely get a kick out of that for sure. Um and I finished the night at Blue Sky Bar. What about you, Jimmy? Where did you go?

SPEAKER_00 11:28

I went next door to Flickr and saw Dinner Time, which I didn't really know anything about. They have the drummer from Hotel Fiction as their drummer, Gideon, who is younger than all the other people in hotel fiction. You know, they're they're probably late mid to late 20s, and Gideon's like 21 years old. He I think he joined the band when he was 17.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

And he plays in a bunch of bands, and there's a good reason that Gideon plays in a bunch of bands because he is a great drummer. He's so fun to watch. He's kind of like a little bit Keith Moon and just a little bit amazing. It's it's very fun to watch him. And dinner time was a lot of fun, and then we heard after the show as they were walking out that that was going to be their last show ever. So we'll see if that's true. But I may have you may have seen all famous, slightly famous somebody's shows, and I've seen the last dinner time show. We'll see. So funny The Last Supper, so The Last Supper, there you go.

A Proposal Hidden In The Woods

SPEAKER_01 12:29

So also on Saturday, our friend's daughter, Cameron, was getting proposed to by Dylan, not Bob Dylan. No, because I think some people would be like, Dylan.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

She wouldn't have understood what he said. Yeah. No, I want to know.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

You marry me. That was good, Jimmy. I like that. So just you know, real quick, it was something that you know he she wanted to be proposed to at a certain place, and he kind of set it up, and there was a bunch of us, it was Jimmy's family, it was me, it was is our friend Rob and Kathy and and and Cameron and and Bob Dylan, and we were we were hiding in this little mosquito habitat. Oh my lord, Jimmy, I didn't sign up for that. I I was excited to be part of the whole thing, but I I got bitten, stung, whatever it is mosquitoes do, they were all over me.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

By the grace of God, my wife Cher, who was the photographer, the hidden photographer for this, she didn't get eaten up too badly, but she's like allergic to mosquitoes or something. She gets these huge welts and uh her heart races and everything. So she didn't she only got a few mosquito bites.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

Yeah, we were in the woods. When I say we were in the woods, we were really in the woods. And where were we again, Jimmy?

SPEAKER_00 13:50

It was called the Founder's Garden, and it's right near uh Sanford Stadium on Lumpkin Street in Athens, so just right on campus.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

It was full of mosquitoes.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

It was, but she was proposed to in front of a fountain, and uh it was she said yes, he got down on one knee, and it was it was beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

It was beautiful, it was beautiful, and then afterwards we went to a blue sky bar, and I had my first Grateful Dead beer. I call it that, I'm not exactly sure what the name of it is, but it's got the Grateful Dead steely face on the uh front of it. Not bad at all. I enjoyed it. All right. And then after that, we ended up at Chuck's Fish, where serving us was Julio from Polar Waves, who we went to see at Athfest last year, and actually I saw at the Athens Porch Fest uh this past year. So got to see him, so it was good seeing him. And ended up at the Blue Sky Bar again just so I could have some more of the Grateful Dead Beer to end my evening. So it was a good time, it was fun, it was great being part of this um proposal. Not that I was part of it, but you know, it was great hiding in the woods and getting the mistakes.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

There was a point after the proposal where you were kind of like doing a little bit, you were kind of uh uh on fire, doing a little comedy for a second, and I was afraid you were gonna step into that fountain. And I was like, he's like one step away, but then you you saw it, you didn't do it.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Yeah, that would not have been good, I can tell you that. I got to meet your daughter Lily. You talked about her for three years since you know we started the show, and I can't believe that it's taken this long till I finally Mets fans. You know, that's not saying much. That's not saying much at all. But it's always great to meet someone that chose the Mets.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Nobody would choose the Mets unless unless they love the Mets.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Yes. And and I asked it's easy to be a Yankees fan. That's exactly what she said. And she's right. No doubt about that. No doubt.

World Cup Energy In Atlanta

SPEAKER_01 16:06

So, Jimmy, a couple of weeks ago I had the opportunity to go to a World Cup soccer or football, whatever you may call it, to a game, Morocco versus Haiti. And it'd been 50 years since Haiti had been in the World Cup. I gotta tell you, it was the loudest place I have ever been before. The atmosphere was just absolutely electric, and I had a lot of fun, and I can't say I've I've had that much fun being at something that I don't have, you know.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

Money on?

SPEAKER_01 16:41

No, but a dog in the fight or whatever you want to say. Like it didn't matter to me, you know, who won. I just wanted I didn't want a thrilling zero-zero tie, was all that I was asking for. And the final was 4-2 Morocco. The goal that Haiti scored, you know, the first goal was just absolutely fantastic. It really was a lot of fun. And people were all getting along, and when Haiti scored, you know, the Moroccan people would be and then when Morocco scored, the Haiti people, and it was um it just really was fun down at uh Mercedes-Benz Stadium, or the Atlanta Stadium as they want to call it.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

They're only calling it that because Mercedes-Benz is not an official sponsor of FIFA, so they're they're making they're covering up all the sponsor logos, and it's supposedly called Atlanta Stadium now, which is it's never been called that.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Aaron Powell No, never. But what I find interesting is that I have read multiple times that they have these fan fests. So I think the one for Atlanta is in um Centennial Olympic Park, and the most people have come to Atlanta's fan fest out of the whole country. And I just think that's like really neat that that can happen. So many people are coming to check it out and watch games on the big screens and I need to go down to one of those.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Do we have any more games or is it over?

SPEAKER_01 18:14

No, we do. We have a few more games. Good. Um it's just really cool. I think it's great for the city. You know, I I'm not a huge soccer fan by any means, but it was really cool to be part of something that is so important to so many people. I mean, up in Boston, Scotland, the fans were just absolutely insane. Yeah. You know, uh, some group of them, they call themselves the something army, and they had like tartan. Tartan army.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Yeah, what you know, the plaid, uh wool plaid that they wear. It's called a tartan. It's uh so each clan, each family has their own specific plaid, and that's their tartan.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

There you go. Learn something new.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

Speaking to a Scotsman, sir.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

There you go. You know, they just look like they were having a blast, and everything I read is they were drinking all these bars out of all the alcohol, you know, that they had.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Yeah, apparently just the lager, you know. They didn't want they weren't ordering IPAs or mixed drinks. They just wanted a straight-up lager beer and they drank it all.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

It sounded like they had fun. And and Norway, their fans, they would do this like pretending like they were rowing. They would be on escalators and all sitting on the escalator. And you know, I saw videos where they would do the row. They were at um City Field in New York City at in in Queens, and they did that, and just so many people having so much fun and spending a lot of money here in America. Now, another thing that I did see is a couple of women in Boston said that they love the Scottish people, and there may be a run on babies being born with kilts in nine months.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

I could see that. Yes. I I love how much all the people that kind of had preconceptions about America are coming here and realizing that American people are nice and fun and it's a great place.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Yeah, and we have a thing called ranch dressing that people seem to be going apewire for because you coined that word, didn't you? Yeah, I'm not even sure what exactly what it means, but they're going apewire because they don't get ranch dressing, and people are trying to send it back to you know different countries that they live in, and it's just been insane.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

And and they're actually putting up things at TSA saying, put your ranch dressing into your checked baggage, it will not get confiscated.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

I mean, can you imagine that you have to actually make a sign to say that?

SPEAKER_00 20:51

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Oh man. But yeah, the World Cup, you definitely for me, it was an A plus, something that, you know, I doubt that it will ever happen again in my lifetime here in America. But if it did, I would definitely go and enjoy it again.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

I think after how well this went, maybe and maybe it happens again, you know. In your lifetime, you're gonna live a long time, Jim.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Well, I hope so. I definitely hope so. You know what, Jimmy?

Mailbag Madness And Car Memories

SPEAKER_01 21:20

I think it's time for the music in my shoes mailbag.

SPEAKER_00 21:25

Music in my shoes mailbag.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Jimmy, I'm really proud of the Music in My Shoes brand and what we've done over the 139 episodes. I mentioned, you know, my name a couple of times in every episode, and I can't say how many times I've said your name because it seems like I'm always saying, Hey Jimmy or Jimmy, so Jimmy or whatever every episode. I'm really proud of everything. So I get this email, all right. Okay. Music in my shoes mailbang. I get this email that starts off Mark and Chris. All right. Again, Jim and Jimmy has been mentioned multiple times in every episode.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

I think it's a cut and paste error, but continue.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Mark and Chris, your show has a fun way of talking shop without making it sound like homework, which is rarer than it should be. All right. Okay. I'm writing because I think and I changed the names. I'm writing because I think Sally Smith, CEO of RepNow, would be a really strong fit for slinging shoes.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

For slinging shoes?

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Yeah. Like we sell shoes on this podcast or something. Best Eric. And I cut out a bunch of stuff. This is not a show where we sell shoes. No. I'm not Mark. You're not Chris. I I laugh every time I read this.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

I think AI messed up there. I think that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

I got another email from them. I'm not going to read that, but it's just insane. Like slinging shoes. We're about music. We're not about shoes.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

We're going to use slinging shoes, though, from now on.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

I think we should use part of that for something. I'm not sure what for, but you know, we'll use it.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

It's coming back.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Yeah. So we recently spoke about the 45th anniversary of Van Halen's Fair Warning album. And I mentioned listening to it in my friend's car when he drove me home from NASA Community College back in 1984. And since I couldn't remember what kind of car, I reached out to him for the details. From John Weber on Long Island. That was a 1970 Chevy Nova that was blue. It had a Chevy 327 small block with a Holly four-barrel carb and a turbo 400 tranny. It was a custom six-speaker stereo. I jammed two extra speakers between the bucket seats and hooked it up to an amp. I didn't know that I would still want to hear it at 60 LOL. That stereo was cranking, and I know exactly what he means. It was fantastic. To have that car today, that stereo system, and that small block with the Holly four-barrel carb, that would be a dream right there. Yeah. You know what, Jimmy? That's it for the mailbag. But let me tell you what's mmming me.

New Music Picks And Music History

SPEAKER_01 24:49

Okay. David J., bassist for Bauhaus, he wrote Bella Legosi's Dead and Love and Rockets. He sang No New Tale to Tell. Great song. It is. It is. He released Tracks from the Attic Revisited. And it's a new take on some of the songs from his 2024 album, Tracks from the Attic. And it was an album that he found all these demos over the years. He didn't even remember doing some of these songs. They were just demos. And basically it was kind of him, acoustic guitar, solo, performing some of these songs. He just released in May the revisited version that has a full band for each song. And it's great. And it's funny because so many bands release a full band version and then they're revisited is a more acoustic breakdown.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

True.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

And he's gone the opposite. And some of the songs that I'm really digging on the album are I Wish Those Spacemen Would Come, If Musak be the junk food of love, the most beautiful girls in the world, I'm put off thinking about you for a while. They're all real good songs, you know? Just kind of a folksy rock or just a mellow sound that's just really cool to listen to. All right, I gotta check it out. Yeah, please do, because that's what's mmming me.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

You guys gotta see his face.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Jimmy, enough about me. Tick, tick, tick. It's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy. It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Alright, so 35 years ago, Big Audio Dynamite 2. Yeah, uh, Mick Jones got rid of everybody in his band, got a bunch of new guys in the band, called it Big Audio Dynamite 2. They released The Globe in summer 1991. The title track samples the clashes Should I Stay or Should I Go? That song was actually re-popularized in 1991 by a Levi's ad and re-released with the B side of that as Big Audio Dynamite 2's Rush. So it was the Clash on one side, Big Audio Dynamite on the other, and Should I Stay or Should I Go goes to number one in the UK off of that. Rush only goes to number 50 on the UK charts. But in the US, it was the number one on the alternative charts, number one song of the year. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I would have thought that would be higher in the UK where they're from, but here it is. Does better in the US. And the Globe didn't even chart in the UK. It went to number three on the alternative charts in the US.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

I like the Globe.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Yeah, another really good song. You know, the the whole record, uh it it's kind of thin sounding production to me. It's party time. The two the two singles really have good good production on them. They're fun to listen to. The other songs just kind of you can put it on in the background kind of album.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

I just like the line. It's party time.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Yeah. They sample a lot of fun stuff in there too. You know, in Rush, they've got uh Bob O'Reilly from The Who, and they've got some deep purple in there and a lot of different things. And then of of course, I think I mentioned earlier, but the the song The Globe samples Should I Stay or Should I Go.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Yeah. It's very good, very good. It's funny how things like that happen. You talk about a Levi's commercial, like you just don't know what is going to make things tick.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Yeah. I think it was a commercial that brought what I like about you into the public consciousness, too, because that song came out in like 1980 or something like that. Uh my brother had a Romantics 12-inch, and nobody had ever heard it for like five years or something. And then it was used in a commercial and it became a hit.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

It's crazy how it works. It is crazy. Woo! That was a good minute with Jimmy. Thank you. My name was Jimmy. Let's revisit some more Music in My Shoes. The Beatles Rain reached number 23 on Billboard Hot 100, July 9th, 1966, 60 years ago. It was the B side to the 45 single of Paperback Rider. We mentioned that two episodes ago. And it's got backwards singing and a backwards guitar solo. And they had recorded the song, and John brought the tape home to listen to it. And as John has said in multiple interviews, he was very stoned and put the tape in backwards in his tape deck, tape recorder.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

It's easy to do with real-to-real tape, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

Is it?

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Yeah, because you either store a tape heads out or tails out. And you have to note that on the box, and then you have to thread it up on your machine, either putting it on the right, you know, if if it's uh tails out, then you have to put it on the right and rewind the whole thing and play it. And if it's heads out, you put it on the left and then you start playing it.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

Yeah, by all accounts, he says he was not in any shape to be doing all of that that you just explained. It plays backwards and he loves it. And he's like, we got to put this on the song and and use it. Can you hear me that when it rains and shines, it's just the state of mind. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yes, I can. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Joe Walsh, A Life of Illusion, peaks at number 34 on Billboard, July 11th, 1981, and was the mainstream rock number one song on June 20th, 1981. I like Joe Walsh. He had a group of singles that came out, you know, every few years, and I loved every single one of those songs. Just something about Joe Walsh, his guitar playing, what he sings about, A Life of Illusion is no different. It was recorded in 1973, but not finished and you know, completed until 81.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Wow. Yeah. Like it's just super crazy when you think about it. Caught up in endless solutions, backed up against a wall of confusion, living a life of illusion. And I'll tell you what's not an illusion, Jimmy. That's it for this episode of Music in My Shoes. And I'd like to thank Chris. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios, located right here in Atlanta, Georgia, and Vic Thrill for our podcast music. You can reach us at music in my shoes at gmail.com. Please like and follow the Music in My Shoes Facebook and Instagram pages. This is Jim Boj, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing and keep slinging shoes.