Stop Waiting, Start Living: Why Most People Stay Stuck (And How to Change)

 Cam Cordin - I wasn’t waiting to die, I was racing to live!

In this raw and deeply honest conversation, Rita Mercer sits down with Cam Corden, founder of Savage Chill and author of Savage Chill: Die to Live, to explore what it really takes to go from being stuck in survival mode to living fully.

Cam shares his personal journey through chronic pain, failed marriages, emotional collapse, and a pivotal “911-day contract” he created during one of the darkest seasons of his life. What followed was not a quick fix—but a complete identity transformation built on systems, discipline, and intentional discomfort.

This episode challenges the idea that motivation creates change—and instead reveals why structure, subtraction, and emotional regulation are the real keys to lasting transformation.

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Episode Highlights

• Why most people stay stuck waiting for motivation instead of taking action
• The “911-day contract” that became a turning point in Cam’s life
• How Savage Chill blends discipline with emotional regulation
• Why systems always outperform willpower
• The role of cold exposure and intentional discomfort in rewiring the nervous system
• How subtraction (not addition) creates clarity and focus
• The “No Panicking, No Whining” rule for emotional mastery
• Moving from victim mindset to becoming the “commander” of your life

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Connect with Cam - https://savagechillstyle.com/

Purchase the Book on Amazon -  Savage Chill: Die to Live

https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Chill-Live-Cam-Cordin/dp/B0GNPZY7K2

Transcript

00:00

Camʼs Transformation Journey

Welcome to The Daring Well Podcast with Rita Mercer.

Savage without chill is just rage. And chill without savage is just laziness.

Welcome, guys. Welcome back to The Daring Well Podcast. My guest today is Cam Corden.

Cam is the founder of Savage Chill, and is the author of a newly released book, Savage Chill, Die to Live. At age 44, dealing with chronic pain and three failed marriages, he was starting to plan his own exit.

40 kilograms kettlebell and the deep end of a pool, he gave himself 911 days to change. For him, that 911 day contract, it wasn't a metaphor, it was a deadline, the deadline to transform completely or execute the exit plan.

He chose healthy actions over suicidal ideations. So as we get into today's conversation, I don't want you to check out and think we're just glorifying suicide, but we're talking about ways to lean into hope over things when they feel bleak and dark.

So with Cam's story, he chose again healthy actions over suicidal ideations. He wasn't waiting to die, he was racing to live. I love that about Cam's story, so I'm excited for you guys to hear that.

So Cam now, he's 49. He's way past that deadline of 911 days, and he's 90 percent healed through cold exposure, carnivore nutrition, and kettlebells.

I'm excited for you guys to hear more about Cam's story, and how to find ways to tap into hope when life does feel dark, and how to heal the mind and your body through physical and emotional strength.

So again, thank you for joining The Daring Well Podcast, Cam. Welcome.

Thanks for letting me be here.

Awesome. So before we get into today's talk, tell me more about your story. Tell me more about those dark days of walking through the three-field marriages and that 911-day contract.

2:24

Origin of the Contract

So it was, I forget, it was a Saturday, I remember this perfectly well.

I was still in the third marriage and things were going very well. I had a son from a previous marriage and he had two and a half years left of high school. And on that day, we agreed on a divorce.

And I walked out to the pool deck. It was a late night. And I was doing the math in my head.

And I said, okay, he has two and a half years. And I calculated the days, which was roughly 911 days till he was off to college. And I felt literally, I was 44, but I felt like I was 70 plus years old.

I mean, like my every 20 years. Yeah, stress, everything was collapsing before my eyes. Three failed marriages, a body that was terrible.

I had the nerve issues that I already had surgeries. And it's still the pain was still there because I waited too long. And I was out there just calculating the math.

And I said to myself, like, what am I fighting for? You know, the sun's already gone. Third failed marriage.

And I'm sitting out there thinking, and like the moonlight struck on the kettlebells in the corner. I saw the kettlebell. And it just came to me.

And I said, I'm going to take that kettlebell, chain it to my ankle, walk into the pool in 911 days if I don't feel like I'm 20-something years old again. And it was a, realistically, it was a moment of like clarity. I can't describe it.

And it gave me a purpose to actually solve a problem instead of just going through life on cruise control. Because I felt that. And I became a man on a mission.

And that's where the journey started that night on the pool deck.

Wow. Wow. So the death contract was more of a promise to yourself that I need to get this handled.

Yeah.

And like I tried everything before that. And I will add that like that night, maybe even past nights, you know, there was a lot of like, you know, drinking wine every night. I was smoking weed for pain, but it doesn't really do anything.

But part of me didn't want to give it up because then I realized that nothing was working. But literally that night, all those personalities that I had, identities, you know, I drowned them.

They literally, I told myself like, I can't bring you guys along the way. You guys are cowards. You're the one that got me here.

And, you know, never again did I ever touch any of it. It was just, I had a clear mission. Like it was divine intervention.

Wow, that's powerful.

That's powerful. So you had a come to, we usually say come to Jesus meeting, like I'm coming to my thoughts, I'm coming to myself, and I'm just like, yeah, this is not working. That's powerful, Cam.

No, it was, you know, and then the next day I woke up was a different man with a mission.

Wow.

Wow. So tell me about Savage Chill. Again, before we get too deep into the conversation, what does Savage Chill mean?

Like, why did you choose that? It's pretty savage, but.

Yeah.

6:17

Savage Chill Philosophy

Well, that's pretty interesting. But basically, savage without chill is just rage. And chill without, yeah.

And chill without savage is just laziness. True.

True. True.

So, and like when I say savage, it's savage means doing the things that make you uncomfortable on purpose. Putting yourself in discomfort on purpose. And the chill is the two rules I have.

You have no panicking, no whining. And when you combine them, you have a cold mind, hard body, and clear goals.

That's powerful. Say that again, what savage and chill means.

Yeah. Savage without chill is just rage. And chill without savage is just laziness.

Dude, that's powerful.

That's powerful. Because you're right, a lot of people won't chase their dreams, their goals because they're just too lazy. Yes.

Yes, that's true.

I like that.

Savage chill. Yeah, because it's definitely two polar opposites when I think of it, but it sounds so cool.

Okay.

Okay. So in those moments of the darkness, you were still thinking about your son, thinking about your family and how you would leave them in those dark moments.

Yeah, and I figured off in college, everything, he's already got his college going for him. He can continue. Everything is good.

I did my duty as a parent. Got you.

Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for sharing those pieces in your story. So when you wanted to, what gave you hope in those moments?

Was it him or was there something else that was giving you hope?

I mean, I wanted to live, but I didn't want the manage decline. I wasn't going to just slowly fade away. Doctors gave me drugs, but at temporary, they worked.

But then I went to another doctor and they would tell me, your liver enzymes are through the roof. It's killing you. You can't take that every day.

Then I go back to the doctor and say, well, only left now is we can give you pain meds to manage the decline. It's a degenerative disease.

On a flip side is I have a father with some nerve disorder, and I've watched him over the years piece by piece lose function. I didn't want that to be me. I said, no way, because working out has always been my life.

It's who I am. I said, I'm not willing to do that.

Yeah. What kind of pain or what kind of degenerative disease was it?

Well, I had the nerve issue in both arms. They fixed it, but I waited too long, so the nerve pain was still there. I broke so many bones and it was arthritic and it was just terrible.

I couldn't sleep. It was just a really dark period. When you don't sleep, then it compounds the effects, you feel even worse.

Got you.

So dealing with chronic pain, how many years did you have to deal with that?

It started when I was 37.

It's still fairly young, Cam.

Very young. I noticed that working out, I go train all the time and all of a sudden, like the soreness, it was a different type of soreness and it just stayed. I still kept going.

Then slowly things would just get worse and worse. Towards the end of the second marriage, I don't know if it's emotional or not, but it was right towards the end. All of a sudden, I woke up one day and my hands were just numb, like almost dead.

Wow.

That must have been scary.

It was scary and I still kept doing what I was doing, thinking it'll go away and it didn't. I was in denial that there was something wrong.

Yeah. So all those years of chronic pain. Okay.

So what changed first for you, the pain or the mindset? So you go in there, all the doctors getting trying to numb with substance use and none of that was helping. So what changed first for you?

11:21

Discipline Through Systems

Well, I think it started after that contract.

I took a whole different approach because I really had a real negative opinion on doctors after that. I started really investigating strange protocols. I tried them.

I tried peptides. I experimented. I kept the data.

The biggest one to start that really made a notice was the cold plunge. I built one out of a deep freezer. I started doing it religiously.

I started doing it excessively and it worked. But there was still the pain in the body subsided, but there was still, I would say, mental problems. I wasn't right still.

Yeah.

Yeah. When you think about the difference with willpower or discipline, which one was stronger for you or which one helped most?

Well, and I really talk about this in the book is, a good system automatically creates discipline, and there is no willpower needed.

And every time you have to make, like I refer to them as micro decisions that could be automated, that drains your willpower. So you really have to eliminate, and I have a big chapter on this, on subtraction.

You start up subtracting lots of things from your life, and your willpower increases, and you follow the system, your discipline, it's a natural byproduct. So I don't believe that people are born with discipline or not, it's structure.

So you have to have the right structure, and the right environment. So it's a real like every module I have in the book kind of works on top of another.

Because to reset the, and make real lasting changes, you have to have a clean environment, structure. And if you just start with like the cold exposure, the workout, and diet, it's good. But the real thing, it has to be a total package.

And I didn't really experience that till like once the divorce was final, which it did last quite some time after that night. But it eventually happened. So it was really, so I would tell everyone if they were looking a place to start is clutter.

I know it sounds funny, but this is probably the biggest thing that you can fix for yourself. Clutter and drinking enough water.

Like spring cleaning clutter?

Like clutter and make your house look like a hotel.

Okay.

Because every time you walk past it, it causes anxiety. It causes you to think about the pile of someday I have to do this. Just get rid of it.

Because it will keep you on track to the actual system you are designing. But if your house looks like it from an episode of Hoarders, you probably won't last long with whatever you do.

That's true. That's true. And you say drink more water.

What's your suggestion? Is it by weight, body weight? Like how do you suggest?

You could probably go by body weight.

It's like a fair example and I'll quote others because people underestimate this. But like Tom Brady, like his program really emphasizes water and he says a minimum of one ounce of water per pound.

Sometimes two to three depending if you're in the heat, working out, and everyone fails that especially they wake up in the morning, and the first thing they do is turn the coffee maker on. It's like throwing gasoline on a fire.

How so?

Well, you already wake up dehydrated. This is natural. Then once dehydration kicks in, you're going to panic more.

And, you know, I mean, like, you're stuck in, like, a doom loop. So I think, like, every morning I have these bottles. I fill them up every night.

I drink two of these, then I walk downstairs. At least 30 ounces, I would say to start, just drink it right while you're in bed. People notice a big difference.

Right away, if you had rain fog, it goes away. It's the little things people forget, it's the basics.

Got you. Getting back to the basics. I guess let's go back to that conversation about discipline and willpower.

What about motivation? People that say, I just don't feel motivated. To make any healthy changes with their diet, with their actions, with their movement.

What do you say about motivation?

I don't believe in motivation. If you're not motivated, you haven't designed the right system for yourself, that you're just not compatible with it. And everything starts with, basically, you should start from scratch and just do a little.

And I think that's the big problem with workout routines and everything else, is people buy someone else's program that's designed for them, not for you. So you have to structure it, and most people don't.

So if you start small, just like everything else, is it sustainable? Can you do it every day? Can you do it even on your worst days?

And the other aspect where most people fail is, you're adding something to your life. You have to get rid of something else in return. You just have to subtract.

And I have an online school. What I like to say is, if you don't subtract, God will do it for you, and he'll do it with a chainsaw. So you should really look at it.

That's true.

So you have the choice to subtract, and it's subtracting items, old identities you have, but you can't keep trophies of old identities of yourself.

You have to get rid of them. And that's it. You have to start.

If you add something, you have to eliminate one thing. I'd prefer if you eliminate even more. You should spend time just eliminating.

That's very good and very simple.

Yeah, you got to fill the void. You got to fill the void. That's good.

That's good.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

And I think, too, if people have these, like, do you remember the TV show The Biggest Loser?

Oh, yeah.

Like, they would kill these people, but realistically from an exercise standpoint, they haven't done anything their whole life, you know, they're so, they probably just walking alone would get the same results, but it's TV show.

It's not how it really works in the real world. And can they continue that rugged pace? I don't think so.

So it's not sustainable.

It has to be sustainable where there's no motivation required.

That's where, like you said, the systems come back into place.

Yes.

Gotcha.

Gotcha. So how do people find emotional freedom through chosen discomfort? So ways to manage pain by eliminating the root cause.

19:20

Embrace Discomfort

Well, I will say this.

It's like, I'll take the cold exposure. It is discomfort, but it gives you a sense of understanding of your body. And when you do the hard things and you put yourself in discomfort, it gives you more freedom and you appreciate the comfort more.

So you choose to put your body through intentional discomfort?

Yes.

Because your body, you're going to go through discomfort regardless, just by byproduct of being a human in everyday life, but choosing discomfort.

It works.

People don't like it. But if you do it, like with my system, how I designed it, is I do the discomfort is in the cold plunge.

And the natural reaction when you get out is, you're cold because I stay in the long time, and I encourage people to stay in the long time.

How long is a long time? Like five minutes?

Sometimes 30 minutes. Look, if you're starting, you build up to it. But it's a natural product, so there is no motivation needed.

You're sitting there and you're like, I'm going to work out. I don't like to work out, but I get out of that cold plunge. I don't want to just sit there because eventually, it constricts all the vessels in your limbs.

Eventually, those vessels are going to open up and cold, cold water is going to be pumping through you, and it's not a pleasant experience. So you say, I got to warm up fast. What's the easiest way?

You work out and you have all the hormones pumping through, you have the adrenaline dump from it, the norepinephrine, and you feel great, and it's like you just want to do it. There is no motivation. It's almost a survival mechanism.

You want to work out.

Wow. Wow. So you tap into the body's core survival instincts.

Yeah. That is hardcore. So you build up the 30 minutes.

What is the starting point then?

It depends on the person, but like a minute, and you just constantly increase.

I don't go 30 minutes that often anymore, but I go at least 8-16 minutes is like the average in that range, depending on my schedule, and it works for me because I stay cold enough that it motivates me.

But if I just go in for a minute because I've been doing it so long, I'm warm like that. So you want to push yourself towards the edge, and when you push towards the edge, that's where all the rewards are.

That's awesome. I love how you said, I got a quote from you that I stopped being a victim of my body and became its commander.

Yes.

Tell me more about what that means for you.

I think with the cold exposure, and it really works on the two rules, the no panicking, no whining, is you can't panic when you're in there. If you panic when you get in the cold water, you're finished.

If you take that grasp of air, you're going to go. You can't stay in there. You have to control your mind.

It teaches you to stop playing that doom loop inside your head, because I think panicking is... You can state something is uncomfortable. That's data.

But if you're making horror films inside your mind, that is panicking. You know, and like the whining is... You can say...

You can make a complaint once, but you have to take action. If you make the complaint a second time without taking action, you're whining. And that's basically the sound of surrender.

That's deep.

That's deep.

Yeah. I mean, it sounds like very simple rules. And the...

how I came up with these rules, it was in 2008. I was with my son. He was just like, you know, maybe four.

And we were hiking in Lake Tahoe and it was snow on the ground. It was already like to his knee level. We're walking, we're walking, and the snow is coming down.

And on the way back, now it's up to his waist. And I'm like, come on, let's go, keep going. And he's crying.

He's like, this is hard. And we're a pretty decent amount from the house. And I said, I panicked too.

I said, if he starts panicking, this is not a good thing. And I told him, I said, look, there's two rules in life. No panicking, no whining.

It just came, maybe it came from the divine. And I told him, I said, it'll take a lifetime to master, and even then you won't master it, but you'll catch it faster.

Yeah.

And like he took a couple more steps. He started crying. I said, I said, what's rule one?

He's like, no panicking. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, panicking, and we made it home.

I think it was a learning moment, but I think it was him teaching me about it.

Through life, once you learn these rules and you can start seeing it every day, you start trying to master it and pushing yourself in that discomfort, like I said, with the cold plunge or anything that would make you want to panic.

So when you experience it in real life, which eventually you will, you're prepared. You're in a cool, calm mindset. I think most people today just flip out.

You could see it on the road. They have road rage. It's because everyone panics.

How do you talk yourself out of that?

So not even just a you problem, but how do you encourage people that are struggling with panic and pushing past pain or discomfort in everyday life, but also in their body? Like how do you talk to yourself?

I love the rules, but what is practical ways that you can talk to yourself to get through that?

25:56

Daily Life Strategies

Well, it's good.

After that day on the trail, I started enforcing the rules in the house, and in return, everyone in the house would enforce the rules on me. So you become aware of it. It's pretty hard to do it by yourself.

And then the cold exposure also teaches it as well, as you can't panic because you're intentionally putting yourself into something that's terrible. You can't sit there and say, I'm going to die.

But if you look at it, as you go into the cold plunge, you can also look at, there are people that spend hours in it. I think the world record is a long time. So they're not panicking.

So you can go in a minute, you can go in two minutes, you can find the evidence that you're not going to die. But you have to decide like and inside your mind as well. You have to catch yourself and name it right away.

Like, okay, panic.

So that's the first step is naming it, not just naming it.

And it usually kills it right away. And the other steps is usually when you panic, your breathing becomes shallow. So it's like take some big breaths, relax, and stop playing that doomsday movie in your head.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I love there's a researcher that Dr. Brene Brown, she talks about the story that we tell ourselves. And so what's the story you're telling yourself?

Oh, that I'm going to die by sitting in cold plunge, or I'm going to die by doing this extra exercise, or I'm going to die by whatever. And so we make this, catastrophize everything. And so, so name it, name the panic, name the fear.

So call it out and that squashes it quickly, and then ground yourself with your breath. Anything else?

I think that it can train for it. You know, I think that's probably, look, everyone can take a cold shower. Everyone can do something that is, you know, not comfortable, but you can train it.

And it's really good if you incorporate the rules. And I recommend, keep a wine log. So you, when you do catch yourself, write it down.

And then you can, you can see how ridiculous it is. And when you're aware of the rules, you'll start seeing other people do it all the time and it'll annoy you. And you'll be like, oh.

And then you'll have to tell yourself, like, I don't want to be that guy.

So that's motivation as well.

Yeah. Absolutely.

Heck yeah.

But like I said, it takes, you know, one, starting to implement, you start being aware. And awareness is the start. Yeah.

Absolutely.

Absolutely. And then having the systems in place that keeps you grounded on the days. Like you say, you don't want to do it.

But have a contingency plan.

And I discussed this a lot is for every block of your day, or let's just say, I'll do the workout, or the cold plunge is I got four hours sleep. I have to go to a meeting, whatever. You know, it's like, okay, do X, the minimum.

You know, I'll do it 50% of what I normally do. Because if you do something, it's still a victory. But if you do nothing, it's a loss.

And that's bad for you, you know, and you've already broken the system, and you've just shown it's not sustainable. And you have to recognize the system you plan was the clear-headed person that created it, not when you're in your worst state.

That is so true. That's so true. And I like the idea of the contingency plan because it gives yourself grace for whatever may happen with your schedule, your family schedule, your body, like what you need, but you're still doing it.

So it's not, as you said, it's not considered as a loss. It's considered a win.

Yeah.

Powerful. That's powerful.

And with it all too in there, is you don't have to sit there and think about it. You're not draining mental capital, thinking like what should I do? Maybe I should do less.

It's already there. You just have to hold the sheet of paper up. You know, and it's up, you know, there's no thought process.

And I had a guy when I was a kid, that I worked for, and he always, when someone would make a mistake, he would yell and say, thinking hurts the team. The system does all the thinking for you. You know, that's the beautiful part of it.

Because in today's world, especially now, there's so many decisions to make every part of the day. And with this, everything is really like spelled out.

It's, I can't recommend it enough, is to really break down your day, contingency plans for everything. It works. It's not exciting to do, but it probably has the biggest payoff.

That's smart.

That's smart, Cam. That's smart. So as we wrap up today, what are some words of wisdom that you can encourage someone as far as taking action today?

You gave a lot of good tidbits, but I don't know if there's any parting words of wisdom or mindset strategies that they can take today.

31:23

Eliminate for Clarity

Well, I would probably start with is elimination.

To start, if you're really struggling, is start eliminating from every area of your life, from people, items, commitments, and your life will start from there.

You'll have less stress because in today's world, everyone wants to jam so much together, and you'll have more mental clarity, time to think, and especially, and I even go into it, is you have to eliminate digital clutter to it, which is probably the

worst thing in today's world. Is there so much people's phones, they're beeping all the time. I had a friend come over and his phone beeps every minute, and after a while, that was the last time he ever came here. All of a sudden, you feel stress.

You hear, ding, ding, ding.

It was like, okay, enough.

It's like sensory overload.

Yeah.

I would start with that. I mean, just silencing all notifications, and just breaking down your day and then start looking at it, and say, yeah, I don't need to do this. I don't need to do that.

But subtraction is hard. People don't want to do it. But you have to really look at people that also, when you subtract people, who steals your energy?

Because we all have that person in the life. He just calls to complain about his life, ask questions like, this is the problem I have. You give him a good answer, and then a month later, he calls you back with the exact same problem.

It's like, he made the cut. You got to get rid of him if you want peace of mind. You're not a bad guy for doing it.

You're saving yourself.

It's also a gift for that other person because they get to learn that this process of elimination is happening too often. You know what I mean? So it's like, it can be all 25 of my friends keep eliminating me, and it's, I'm not the problem.

So it helps you to look inward too. So it's a gift for both people. But yeah, I definitely believe in the digital clutter.

I think in the maybe past couple of years. So even on my watch, I'll get like dings. And so there's times during the day where I will silence all notifications unless there's like a special meeting that I'm preparing for.

I definitely will silence it for those. But like times that I'm like really focused that I really want to be aware of something that's coming up. So I will turn it on so I can get the notification.

But I definitely do a lot of silence in those just so I'm not getting 25 email and dings from and the camera from my doorbell. Like it all dings in my phone and my watch and all my devices. It's like it's too much.

It is.

It's not in one thing.

Yeah.

Yeah. It makes a huge difference. Total makes a huge difference.

And I would even go this far to say if you have your phone with 100 apps scattered through multiple pages, you should put them in folders.

Like I literally have one screen with everything in folders categorized in like, I don't, you know, shut off the social media notifications. Even if it's your business, it's not going to make or break you to hear these notifications.

You know, it's just because a lot of people, they end up picking it up and looking at the phone. And then all of a sudden, 30 minutes of their life got wasted, scrolling.

True, true.

So I look at it as whatever, subtract whatever does not bring you closer to your mission.

Mm, your goal.

Yeah. Yeah.

So it's just stay in laser focus.

Yeah. And I think if you do all this, you will, that the flow state everyone strives to get, you can turn it on at any minute.

Yeah.

Not learning to panic. Everything else is because you cannot get in the flow state if you're panicking.

That's true. That's true.

So training for discomfort, it works and it can start with literally a cold shower. Start with ending the shower cold and enduring it. Just accept it.

Don't fight it. Just accept it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Even with clients with anxiety or depression or suicidal ideation, we'll just talk to them about cold water up under their hands.

So just leaning into the discomfort, things that you are in control of. So giving your mindset and a know-how that, hey, I can control any type of pain that comes in and out of my life.

Yeah. I mean, it makes a huge difference. In today's world, we have the most comfortable ever in time.

The people that are struggling right now, technically have better living conditions than John D. Rockefeller had. People don't realize that.

It's we're in a comfort culture, and there's the sign of discomfort people run away from. But eventually, it's going to find you.

Yeah.

You can make it your choice or just life's will.

You get to choose your level of hard. Yeah.

But eventually, the bill always comes due.

That's true. That's true. That's where the Savage Chill comes in.

37:23

Sustainable Life Change

How can people connect with UKM if they want to get started with building systems that last and they're sustainable?

Well, I do. I have a website, Savage Chill Style, and there's a link on it to an online school, depending if you want personal coaching or not. Obviously, read the book.

I would recommend to read the book anyway just so you get ahead. The online school really dives into each of the topics really in depth. They sound simple, but once you understand these concepts, a lot of people have that aha moment.

It is, I do cater this to men, but I have had a few women that are just, they went through it and turned their life around. I hate to say it, but most men in today's world, women are much, much tougher.

Ah, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah.

I love that you have programs specific for whatever gender, whatever lifestyle, and meeting people exactly where they're at.

Not only because I think that's the other things with some programs, like some people can talk it, but you've lived it, and that's what I think is so powerful about your story, is like you have lived through some hard things and you've come out on

the other side with some wisdom and some practical ways to kind of navigate those things. Yeah.

No, I mean, I will say going through the program, I'm not now married again, and happily married, happily married. Yes. In a successful marriage, but I contributed is through this whole process, it made me a different man.

So I can't like it because of the structure of it from, and I believe once you go through the system, people can tell the difference just by when you walk in the room.

Wow. Wow. That's powerful.

Oh, yeah.

No, I recommend the book. It's not a super long read, and I go through the whole toolbox of what you really need to do, and even deeper in the online school with a free session with me to go over the system once you go through it all.

Because we all live in systems. Even if you don't have a system, there is a system inside of that, and you have to recognize it. And every module builds on top of the other module.

And it will if you implement it. And you're honest with yourself. And I think that's the other thing.

When you create a system, you learn about yourself. And I think at the same time, when you purposely put yourself in discomfort, like in the cold plunge, I'm not going to knock meditation.

But some of my best thoughts is when you're in there, you can't have a million thoughts going through your mind when you're sitting in cold. And it's crystal clear vision. And you really learn about yourself.

And you start having moments like, you know what, all my problems, they're my fault. You know, you start accepting, you start seeing things from a different perspective.

When you start putting yourself in discomfort, you stop being, you stop becoming the victim. And I think that is a key to growing as a person. Because ultimately, everything, it's on you.

Take, even if you don't think it is, look for, look for how it is on you.

Yeah, yeah. That's powerful. That's so powerful.

I can think of Mel Robbins, she says, nobody's coming for you. You gotta do it. Just putting that onus like, stop, stop.

What did you say? Stop panicking, stop whining.

Yeah. You'll start seeing through time, I saw the pattern with all my relationships. I always said, well, I chose wrong.

Which realistically, that is a big concept. But I did things to really not help the situation. I was the one at the end, ultimately broke these relationships.

I was there, but I emotionally wasn't.

Yeah, and that's important. That's important for a healthy relationship.

Yeah, and I think that once you go through it, you start looking at the subtraction, you start seeing identities you have. It's really enlightening. You're saying, oh my God, this caused me this, having this type of identity, and everyone has it.

Yeah.

So finding what's unhealthy and eliminating the unhealthy pieces.

Yeah. Everything associated with it.

Yeah. Yeah. Cool.

Well, thank you so much to Cam. I definitely appreciate your heart and your story and your brutal honesty. But also, I love the brutal truths of how to overcome those things.

And so, yeah, you've given everybody some ways that they can start. Even today, small steps, if they want to take it way further and get deep into it, they can jump in and connect with you and even start with a book.

I think that's really, really cool that they can even start there. So you said the book is on Amazon as well?

It's on Amazon, yes.

Okay.

It should be everywhere, but everyone goes, like I said, everyone goes to Amazon.

Yeah. The book's name is Savage Chill, Die to Live.

Yeah.

Die to Live. Again, I love that quote that you said, that you wasn't waiting to die, he was racing to live.

That's a good way to focus your thoughts instead of focusing on a New Year's resolution that's here today, gone tomorrow, but just focusing on how you really want to live a life that you're proud of, that you love.

Yeah. It's a great book, and it was tested in real conditions, not from a seminar, and everything in there is what works.

Yeah, which makes a huge difference. Savage Chill. Awesome.

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