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After years of fan theories and relentless speculation, Mephisto has finally made his MCU debut in Marvel's "Ironheart" – but was this supernatural revelation worth the wait? We dive deep into this pivotal moment for Marvel storytelling and examine whether this Disney+ series provided the right introduction for such an anticipated character.
The conversation explores how "Ironheart" struck a balance between technology and magic, building on foundations established in "Agatha All Along" while carving its own unique space in the Marvel universe. We break down the show's pacing issues, with many feeling the first four episodes moved too slowly before the final two installments delivered the action and revelations fans were craving. That memorable White Castle fight scene? We've got thoughts on whether it made up for the slow build.
Looking at Riri Williams' character development and her potential future in the MCU, we consider how she might fit into upcoming projects and possible team-ups like the Young Avengers. The Ezekiel Stane connection to Iron Man's legacy created an effective antagonistic force that honors the past while establishing something new.
Beyond "Ironheart," we also share fresh perspectives on "Fantastic Four," discuss Marvel's growing issue with unresolved post-credit scenes, and look ahead to upcoming projects. Whether you're all-in on the MCU or feeling superhero fatigue, our balanced take on where Marvel stands in 2024 offers something for everyone. Join us for this energetic, insightful discussion that doesn't just recap what happened, but examines why it matters for the future of superhero storytelling.
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Comic-Con. Comic-con.
Speaker 2:These guys are all. We're talking about Comic-Con.
Speaker 4:I'm all like Ironheart finally, lupin having the Ironheart sweats.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm awaiting the dog to show. I mean to praise this show.
Speaker 1:He actually already recorded his thoughts on it, so we're going to cut in. Roll the clip, yeah exactly. Those are going to get cut in right now.
Speaker 4:Man yeah, exactly, those are going to get cut in right now. I think this is the longest that the three of us have gone without talking to each other in verbal communication, in like two years.
Speaker 2:When did we start February last year?
Speaker 1:So a year I will admit I was looking forward to this all weekend.
Speaker 2:Were you. I'm like, was I?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I guess I was Lou's already out All the stuff that Lou said at the beginning of Season 2 about being looking forward to this and everything. It took two weeks for him to go. I'm good.
Speaker 2:He's like, yeah, I'm over it. I ain't going to lie though. I'm sitting there watching Voyager'm like towards the end of season2 Well, not towards the end, I guess I'm episode 16, 26 or some shit and it's finally starting to get To the point where I'm like, damn, how are they gonna get home? Q shows up and he don't Send him home, like rude ass. Q is rude. Yeah, he really is. Man Fucking discord.
Speaker 4:Spoiler Q makes a cameo in Strange New Worlds.
Speaker 2:I did hear about that and apparently he's supposed to be in Voyager like two more times.
Speaker 1:Did they finish Voyager when it was on originally?
Speaker 2:All I know is somehow Seven and Nine is going to show up, because I know she's from Voyager. I don't know how that happened, so I'm curious about that. I know that there was an issue with the actress playing Kes in real life, so I didn't look up the issue. But I know I think for the female swap, seven and Nine takes over for Kes as in filling the void, but I just don't know how that happened or when that happened.
Speaker 4:So it's like that was a hard choice back then, man, because if you were into Kes, then all of a sudden you're like wait, where is she going? And then all of a sudden Seven and Nine shows up and you're like oh, okay, I guess.
Speaker 2:No, I'm taking Kes over Seven.
Speaker 4:But I'm saying back then when you had to be like, okay, what are you going to swap her out with? And then you're like, oh, now in your brain you got to go. Okay, where do my loyalties lie?
Speaker 2:Kes Kes is cuter.
Speaker 1:Simple as that. I don't even remember her. Maybe I didn't make it very far in Voyager. She was in the first episode.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she was at the beginning and then she disappeared.
Speaker 2:Crazy With her Beatles haircut you crazy, yeah, because that Beatles haircut is how Nah. Yeah, that's how you see it. I see that cute-ass face looking like an elf.
Speaker 4:Spoiler, though I did love the fact that Mephisto fucking called out Ringo Was like yep, and one Beatle, ringo. I appreciated that. I was like okay, cool, I didn't think he was going to call names out, because he was like and one beetle. And then the closed captioning did the dot dot dot and I was like is he going to do it? And then he's like Ringo. I'm like all right, cool, of course it's him.
Speaker 2:Was the whole Mephisto reveal the only thing worth a damn in Ironheart?
Speaker 1:Probably.
Speaker 4:Are we Okay, so we're talking about it now. We're on it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Duke, you saw it like a couple hours ago. You finished it up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, weren't you guys proud of me so?
Speaker 2:proud, proud, surprised. Either way. Either way works.
Speaker 4:You expected me to be texting, sorry guys didn't get to it this week.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, I was like he only had three extra weeks, so you know, that's not a lot. I was.
Speaker 4:I was doing our post softball thing and all of a sudden I was like fuck, I should go home and watch them before, before this how much did you have?
Speaker 2:how much did you have to finish Two?
Speaker 4:episodes. Which again To me, those two episodes, if I would have just skipped and watched those two episodes, you would have got the gist of the whole thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the last two episodes to me Didn't necessarily make the first four episodes Worth getting through, but at least stuff happened in the last two episodes. I liked the White Castle fight. That was kind of fun. That was bullshit. Stuff happened in the last two episodes like. I liked the. I like the white, the white castle fight. That was kind of fun. You know type of thing. That was bullshit, but it was at least something right. It wasn't like this like we're sneaking around.
Speaker 4:We're not like again you're having iron heart, you have her in the suit and she's done dick, all in the suit for four fucking episodes. And you're just like come on, guys, like she's in suit, let's have her do some shit.
Speaker 2:My problem is them two girls both be badasses and then they beat everybody else up the whole series and then they can't beat her up in White Castle. Are you kidding me? Right now I've seen black people in other fucking fast food places in the real world, not in the Marvel Universe, beating up people left and right. Come on now.
Speaker 1:You said Waffle House, luke, jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:I did like, or Caribbean Cruise, either one. They're on Carnival Cruise, stay fake.
Speaker 4:I did like that they worked around the employee prop, the employee thing by having it be completely automated. Because when they were like, okay, everyone needs to leave, and there was like five people in there eating food, and then I think it was like halfway through the fight I go well, where are all the employees? And then I saw the robot arms and I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. All right, I get it now.
Speaker 1:So they fancy up there in chicago.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, fancy fancy white castles yeah but no, I mean to me, to me the last.
Speaker 4:The last few episodes didn't make the show worth watching all the way through, but at least their stuff happened, things moved forward. There was I felt like there was a lot of the first four episodes. I thought there was a lot of tread and water, a little bit um. And then, like I shared with you guys before, my biggest problem was just the the time frame between her being introduced and the show coming out right and all the stuff that happened, all the political machinations that happened within the show or to the show in the three, three years right, it's been three years, yeah, um, that also like changed the show or altered the show or whatever. And then like they come in and you're just I, I don't know. I have the same again.
Speaker 4:I had the same problem with invincible. I really liked season one of invincible but then when you make me wait a year and a half to watch the next one or two years to watch season two, I'm like I've already moved on, like I, I'm in my brain. It's like canceled. I'm like okay, cool, because already moved on In my brain. It's like canceled. I'm like okay, cool, because I still have old TV mindset where it's like if it's not out. If you're not giving me new episodes year in and year out, it's really hard for me to get back engaged.
Speaker 2:So I take it, you're anti-South Park?
Speaker 4:then Well, I haven't watched South Park in probably 15 years. So I'm not anti South Park, I mean it's good, Glad it's still on. I supposedly the last episode or first episode of the season was was hilarious, but I have not, uh, I have not watched it.
Speaker 2:So I'm kind of with you. I haven't watched it consistently in a while, but if there's an episode people are talking about, I'll watch it, like I watched the Kathleen Kennedy episode. I watched the season premiere last week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and if, like, a clip shows up on my YouTube feed, I'll watch it, like I'm not. I'm not opposed to South Park, I'm just not committed to it, right.
Speaker 2:No, it was just that whole comment Cause that was like two years since their last episode, 2023 or something.
Speaker 4:And that was part of it, I think, when they stopped doing kind of consistent seasons, which I think you doing kind of consistent seasons, which I think you know, now that we're in this like weird hybrid streaming slash broadcast, you know, like I mean, like they had plus, they had politics, you know, with the buyout that was, or merger that was happening, yeah.
Speaker 4:So they had a bunch of crap going on so I, you know, but I mean there's been a few shows like that that I was super into and then just like didn't get back to you, right? I think we've had that conversation a few times about tv shows, movies, that type of thing and I my I have short brain, I have old man brain, I can't you know. Yeah, I don't remember what the fuck happened in season one of, uh, invincible. Two and a half years later, like who is this again?
Speaker 1:What do you need?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I guess I'll go play that one was easy to keep track of. I'll go play Mortal Kombat. I'll go play Mortal Kombat with the Invincible expansion. That'd be kind of cool but.
Speaker 1:They do have him in there.
Speaker 4:Not Invincible, but Omni-Man.
Speaker 4:They have Omni-Man and Homelander in the Windows game homelander and then, oh, no way, that's kind of this game. Yeah, uh, I mean I'm glad mephisto is finally here because I mean I on my youtube feeds we've been I've been hearing all of the, the mcu, uh, kind of the. The guys that talk about the easter eggs and all that kind of stuff have been talking about mephisto for years. So I'm glad, yes, there's finally a mephisto in the world. As opposed to maybe this is mephisto, maybe this is meph Mephisto. I want a TV show showing Mephisto doing Loki, showing Mephisto all the way back to fucking Iron man, fucking manipulating shit for the last 25 years in the MCU. I think that would be cool. I'm like, oh, okay, having clips from the show. You thought it would be Borat, though, yeah, I know huh, my problem with that is that's not where he belonged.
Speaker 1:He belonged in agatha all along. That would have been a better place to pop him up, because the witches in this show just showed up out of nowhere. They're like oh, by the way, there's witches, right.
Speaker 4:It's like literal black girl magic yeah I do like that they run a sweets and bookshop. I'm like, oh okay, Candy and books. What do you? Want. It's the perfect cover for your, but again, I mean. Agatha also made the magic easier in Ironheart to accept. Right, I think if we wouldn't have had magic before that. And then all of a sudden they're like oh magic. You'd be like wait a second, but Agatha already kind of laid the I agree with that Agatha already laid the groundwork when she started doing this shit and all of a sudden, you know stuff happened.
Speaker 2:Although we already had that with Scarlet Witch.
Speaker 4:But I mean really it's only been Scarlet Witch, though right Like scarlet witch, though right like up until agatha it was scarlet witch was the only one. Really, her and dr strange were really the only ones that showed magic or power or whatever. But I think agatha like me in my head when she started doing it in ironheart I was like okay, cool, like we've already established that there's this whole other world well, I guess my point is I didn't need it in agatha all along is.
Speaker 2:I mean agatha, uh, scarlet Witch, doctor Strange, the whole Wong and Doctor Strange cult, whatever those people are called. And Madison with a Y, yeah, magic is a thing, so I didn't need that to happen. I mean, I didn't need Agatha all along to make me believe in magic. I just need Mephisto to show up with Agatha all along because it seemed like it would have made more sense to make me believe in magic. I just think Mephisto would have shown up with Agatha all along because it seemed like it would have made more sense.
Speaker 1:But I do kind of agree with Duke, though, because in Agatha we're introduced to these people who are just witches right, because before it was Scarlet Witch, she's a mutant from the fucking Infinity Stones. Strange has his style of armogato, yeah. So it's kind of cool to see people that are just people be witches, which, like he said, makes it more easy to digest Come Ironheart, when these chicks are just like yeah, no, we got magic, it's fine, whatever.
Speaker 4:I did like the fact that her mom thought it was just going to be some sage and some shit and all of a sudden, she's like group and then they're like just gonna be like some sage and some shit and all of a sudden she's like group and then they're like what the fuck god that to me? I and again, so, like I said, the last two episodes. Really there was enough stuff in the last two episodes. I think I could have gotten away with watching the last two episodes and would have gotten the point right.
Speaker 4:The first four episodes I really kind of felt like they were like oh, reread the fuck up, and everything she does is break something or hurt somebody or whatever. And then all of a sudden, like episode five, they're like oh, now we're bringing the family together and now she has her crew, and then this and this and this happens right Bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 2:But now John's solo and we're gonna tear up your dad's sentimental vehicle to make your suit. That's not bulletproof or anything, it's just fucking car metal.
Speaker 1:Those are American steel, sir. Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's a markup.
Speaker 2:All that means is you have to pay tariffs on it. That's all that means.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 4:Less tariffs. Yeah, less tariffs, because they still got to import the steel.
Speaker 2:Man.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I enjoyed it well enough. It wasn't woke or preachy or anything that is true, I'm with you on that, dude.
Speaker 2:I thought it was going to be and it wasn't. It was just bad. I mean bad's, not even the right word. It was fine, it was, and that's all it was. It was just fine.
Speaker 1:It was like alright, it wasn't bad, it wasn't great it was just bad, fine, it was like all right, it wasn't bad, it wasn't great it was just yeah, it was just bad.
Speaker 4:I mean, secret invasion definitely set the bar so that's the nice thing is anything that they come out with it after this.
Speaker 2:You're going to be like, well, it wasn't secret invasion yeah, that's kind of how yeah that's kind of how I look at it. I look at it like which. What could I watch before this? And it's's like, however, I think I could watch Skeleton Crew before I watch Ironheart again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, 100% my oldest. She's super into Thunderbolt. She's watched it four times since we got it on Thursday and she's like I should catch up with the rest of the MCU. I'm like, yeah, watch anything except Secret Invasion. You can do without that.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's probably the way to go too.
Speaker 4:I mean I like the, I do like the Ezekiel stain.
Speaker 2:That connection.
Speaker 1:That was kind of cool If a little forced. You know Iron man and another stain.
Speaker 4:But again, it's the clip that they always play of george from episode one. They're like it. It everything matches. It's a poem you know, symmetrical or whatever yeah, yeah, yeah so that's me.
Speaker 4:I'm like cool, yep, poetry, well. And I like the fact that at the end, when she's like okay, I'm gonna fix you, and he's like we ain't done, like this shit isn't over, I was like cool because he could have just been like, oh yeah, thanks for saving my life. Like we're cool now, but instead he's like nah, like you still fucked me up, like I'm. You're the reason I'm this way right now, like so I appreciated that and I thought he did a good job acting in it too.
Speaker 2:Like I thought agreed yeah going in a star wars movie.
Speaker 4:That'd be kind of cool yeah, yeah, yeah, we should see what's available.
Speaker 2:I know it kind of looks like a young Solo, if anything. Yeah, yeah, I'd probably do something like that, yeah.
Speaker 4:Sir Harrison Ford's still alive.
Speaker 2:You're not pissing on his grave already and he's not even you just a fan of recast and for whatever reason, fucking Lucasfilm is not Just hire somebody new. It's okay, jesus, it worked for Lando.
Speaker 1:Do what we're adults. Mostly we can accept changes in Star Wars.
Speaker 2:Know what, though? It's perfectly fine. Just write a good damn story. We don't give a shit. Just write a good story, and we don't care who the actor is.
Speaker 4:Well, but speaking of that, I had no big problems with Solo. There were parts that were kind of like eh, but on the whole I was fine with him being Han. As far as his acting and stuff like that goes. The story was kind of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that part was fine.
Speaker 4:I thought, story was kind of, yeah, no, that part was fine, I thought. I mean, I thought he did fine as han right was the story great. But you know, and I did think it was a little too fan servicey. There was a little bit too much like oh, here's the gun and you just do this and this and now it's your blaster. You know that type of thing. But besides that, I was I would be fine with seeing him as han solo again I mean that part was a little silly.
Speaker 2:I mean mean that movie was real simple. You had to have the few things that you had to have. You had to have the Kessel Run. You had to have how he meets Chewie the gun. Yeah, that was a little bit forced, that was necessarily, but I was fine with how he met Chewie and that whole.
Speaker 4:Yeah, how he met Chewie, no problem. I wish they would have done more with his Imperial service. I think there could have been more stuff.
Speaker 1:There's a comic book series about that.
Speaker 2:I think there was. Yeah, I was going to say I think there was some additional media there you go in the comic, but I thought there was supposed to be more in the film.
Speaker 1:But it was like no cut for time but it got all packed up because they had the lego guys working on it and then they brought ron howard in, so and I think I saw something there was like 90 percent of solo ended up being a ron howard production like they didn't even get director. This movie is too silly. They didn't even get to know where han solo's pants are everything is not awesome they did not get a director credit right.
Speaker 4:They got the producer credit or story credit or something thing is not awesome. They did not get a uh director credit right.
Speaker 2:They got the uh producer credit producer or story credit or something, yeah the last thing was obviously how he got the falcons from lando. So I mean, you had three things that you had to have in the movie. They put him in there. The rest of it was just like space to figure out how to get those three things in the movie. And you know, I I get it. I. I hated it the first time I saw it. I absolutely hated that movie. I was hot in the theater and the movie. I just could not stand it. And then it was like, all right, fine, whatever. The second time I watched it, like two years later, it was like oh, it's actually not bad.
Speaker 4:Matt, we were watching when we went and watched Superman, like they turned the AC off with like an hour left in the movie or something. I don't know. Something like maybe I don't. I think part of it.
Speaker 4:They weren't that our theater was full on a tuesday night at 7 30 that makes sense and we were there and like we walked out and like I had like sweaty pits and like I had like backtracks. I was like sweaty back and I was like what the fuck? And everyone's like were you hot in there? Did it get hot in there? And I go, yeah, it was fucking miserable. Like come on. You're like, oh, let's improve the experience.
Speaker 2:Well, don't fucking keep the air conditioning on assholes. That's when you go out and you're like, look, I need a free IC yeah no shit.
Speaker 4:So, Jack, you were fine with Ironheart. Yeah, I don't know I don't see how Ironheart's going to fit into the rest of the universe, sorry, Jack, are you fine with Ironheart?
Speaker 2:Let me cut off your answer, sorry.
Speaker 4:Sorry, hey guys, I'm rusty, it's been a couple weeks since we've done this.
Speaker 1:No, it was fine. It's cool that they brought in Mephisto. I don't know Ironheart's story in the comics, so I don't know. Does she join the Young Avengers? She's going to go hang out with Kate and Miss Marvel and all them.
Speaker 2:I don't know Girl power, teenage girl power Yay.
Speaker 4:Well, Wickham will be there. The characters are fine. Like I said, teenage girl power.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, teenage girl power.
Speaker 1:Where's the macho man? We need a macho fella on their team. Oh yeah, the cream rises to the top.
Speaker 2:Haven't heard anything about that in a minute. Is that like a done deal? Because they're going to finish up Doom and Secret Wars and probably go right into the Mutant Saga, so at that point I mean, what are you going to do with the Young Avengers? Disney Plus maybe?
Speaker 4:Yeah, maybe, but I mean they've also kind of I mean they dismissed the Marvels. So to me, since they're kind of ignoring that now, that to me would ignore the post-credits scene with her saying oh yeah, I'm going to be meeting all these people Like they haven't like addressed that at all since the Marvels have come out as far as, like those storylines, they haven't addressed a lot of shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have a lot of they still might. You know, they still might.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it was that weird ship at the end of the Thunderbolts. They didn't do anything with that. That was weird. Exactly Just had a four on it. That was fucking stupid.
Speaker 2:And all it did was just nothing. They turn it, you see a four and then nothing See.
Speaker 1:More shit For real.
Speaker 2:More than his voice. Pretty sure that was 5 years, whatever the hell that was 21?
Speaker 4:Is that when the journals came out?
Speaker 2:Let's see if Endgame was 19, so it was either 20 or 21.
Speaker 4:I'm guessing it was probably supposed to be 20, but it probably got delayed Because of If only we had a device that would let us know 21 is a lot of work. Trivia question answered 2021 because of If only we had a device that would let us know Eh 2021's a lot of work, Bam.
Speaker 2:Trivia. Question answered 2021. So we're four years, five, six years from the announcement because it was Comic-Con 2019, I think when they announced him and then his voice shows up in 2021,. But they still ain't figured out a movie, a story or anything what to do with him. So it's just, I mean between that and figure out a movie a story or anything, what to do with them. Between, that wasn't there. I'm trying to think the Hercules and Thor, there's that.
Speaker 4:And Harry Styles, harry Styles, yeah.
Speaker 2:The end of freaking Eternals. Whatever the hell that movie was called. Is that what it's called? Eternals? The end, with that whole beacon thing is going off and Shang-Chi the end of that one there's like so much.
Speaker 4:It was tied to the Ten Rings or something right Maybe?
Speaker 2:That's the thing.
Speaker 4:The Ten Rings were ringing and he was like what's all this? And Wong was like look they got what was that?
Speaker 2:four or five already they had to tie in, it's like alright. And especially, got what's that? Four or five already they have to tie in, it's like all right. And especially, they can't do anything with that. If it was supposed to tie in to, uh, jonathan majors, so if the whole king, because that was part of the whole king thing.
Speaker 4:Well, there's more shit that's just out there in the wind I want the first like 10 minutes of doomsday to just be like them tying all that up, I just but, but just like cutting it off and bringing everybody together. Like a bunch of portals just open and they all get sucked into Battleworld and then they just are like alright, we're moving on, we're good.
Speaker 1:Like when you drop up this post-credit, this post-credit, Yup.
Speaker 4:They just address all the post-credit scenes for the last five years that they haven't talked about.
Speaker 2:The Hercules one they could do in Thor 4, though right yeah, 5, whatever they're on 5?
Speaker 1:5. Yeah, as long as Thor doesn't do it. Obviously he's a one-trick pony, yeah, and it only worked once. He should do a Star Wars movie or something.
Speaker 2:I'll be all right with that if I can find a role for him.
Speaker 1:No, he's going to make it Like, make it.
Speaker 2:Like direct it Really.
Speaker 4:But that also means he's going to be in it.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You got to find a role. I heard that was on the shelf anyway, just like Rian Johnson's is on the shelf now. Yeah. Yeah, I thought they benched.
Speaker 4:I thought they benched. No, because there was two of them that are. Was it man? There's no star wars, which?
Speaker 1:one is mingle doing. I think he's doing the high republic.
Speaker 4:I thought really I like the origin of the jedi or some shit yeah yeah, yeah, I think there's him, and then there's one other jedi one and then the starfighter one is all, that's.
Speaker 2:That's that's going. Everything else is on the shelf, yeah which I mean I'm fine with that.
Speaker 4:I think it's so, am I?
Speaker 1:It's like I gotta wait until they make all their money off of Mando and Grogu and fill up the coffers which they won't make their money off of Mando.
Speaker 4:No, they'll. They'll make all their money off of the 50th 50th anniversary release in April of 2027.
Speaker 2:That. I'm wondering about us now, why, why? It's but whatever Our special edition copy that we're going to get, that's going to be further modified.
Speaker 4:It's going to be Disney-ified.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's got to be a Disney Plus version, that way they can say you can go watch it on Disney Plus, so you can get a subscription to Disney Plus. I would argue if I'm marketing, I'm putting both versions out and then let the fans choose. You will know what the fans really want that would just confuse them, because people are fucking stupid.
Speaker 2:It would confuse some people. It would confuse some people, but again, the ones who, who actually pay money to go see your product, to buy your product, to do all the extra stuff, not just the movie you will get an idea what those fans want. Because it's like if you put out a blu-ray 4k version of the unedited or unspecial edition whatever you want to call it originals of all three, there is going to be a group of people that's going to buy that. Uh, this is a big group. People don't give a fuck either. So you know, but I'd like to know that answer. Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of there, like all the stuff. The only thing that really Bothers me is the end of Jedi. The rest of it I can deal with. The end of Jedi I want my Ewok song.
Speaker 1:Not Han shooting first, not Jabba showing up. Not Luke screaming After he made the conscious decision.
Speaker 4:Not the fucking Jedi rock song Lou wants Yub Nub back.
Speaker 1:I want.
Speaker 2:I got the lyrics. They're on my computer. I can pull them up. It's on my desktop, it's just up there.
Speaker 4:You don't even need the lyrics because you have them memorized.
Speaker 2:There was a time when that was true. There was a time I need them now, but about when did I get out here? 2012, I moved out Up until about 10 years ago. I could play that song because it was on my phone. I could play it and I did not need the lyrics.
Speaker 4:Lou had one song on his phone, and one song only.
Speaker 2:No, I had the Imperial March also. Okay, that's fair, I had two, I had two and then one album that was Jagged Little Pill but whatever. But yeah, that's like I don't know. It's like, yeah, okay, when I do watch the special edition, I don't care all that much. The Jedi Rock song is stupid. It's like, eh, whatever, a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:But once we get to it, it does kind of rock, though it is catchy it man.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna lie, I hated it. I hated it when it first came out and then, I think in the theater or whatever, I think it was the special edition, the ones that they released in the theater in 97. And then, probably about a few years later, I was like, okay, this is actually kind of catchy, I'm okay with it. I like the scene of the of the. What is it? The robot? When they come to tatooine, the robot's hitting on a critter.
Speaker 4:Well, it's carrying the pipe, and then it hits. Yeah uh, the camera droid, the little droid thing hits it, yeah so I mean again those things.
Speaker 2:The whole java didn't like. You're not, we're not wrong. The java thing didn't bother me. Grito shooting first bothered me, but not the way other people were losing their minds. It bothered me, but I did not lose my mind over it. I only lost my mind. I guess the second. Again, jedi is switching the Anakin ghost. I wanted Sebastian Shaw. I thought that was terrible that they brought in Hayden for that. I get why. You know the new crowd and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:They recognize that Connects it better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it totally does, I guess. And I guess, if you want to go with some kind of story, it's the whole. Well, that's when he was classic, good. So I was like, okay, let's look like him, I get all that. I just preferred Sebastian Shaw.
Speaker 1:That's all and the whole helmet off scene. I wanted that character um. It was like where the fuck are his eyebrows?
Speaker 2:put those back. God damn it. What are y'all doing? What are y'all doing to me? But more than anything, it's the like. There's been times I've done it. I'll, I'll pause it and then I'll put my dvd in it. I'll play the right ending. I haven haven't done it in a long time we're talking maybe two decades but when they started doing it I was not a fan. I was like no, or I would mute it and then play the song on my phone.
Speaker 4:You hear a fucking listening to the radio broadcast of the local sportscasters while having the national feed on his TV.
Speaker 2:Wait, I only do that with, like Sunday night football, because Chris Collinsworth is such a oh, he's such a tool. I can't listen to Chris Collinsworth. So there's definitely been some times where it's mute and then you got to sync that. You know, thank you for DVR and all that shit. You got to pause it and sync it to what lines up with what the radio broadcast is, because Westwood One Radio is way better than Chris Collinsworth. But damn, or I'll just mute it completely and I'll be playing a game on, you know, the computer or something like that. That's happened, it's just, and there's not too many. Joe Buck is one that I can't stand and Chris Collinsworth. The rest of them are mostly tolerable. Tony Romo is a little bit of a tool, but not in a negative way in the sense that like oh my god, he's an absolute guy. Just that whole. Here we go, jim. Oh no, jim. It's like oh my god, I'm watching old school Star Trek. Damn it, jim, it's just Tony Romo.
Speaker 4:Speaking of that, I find the uh. Just to circle back to ironheart real quick. I did find it interesting that they looped in the star. I wonder how much they had to pay for the star trek rights for uh, for having it in the show which part which when, well, when the uh natalie's brother was calling him, calling her spock, and then oh, oh and then when she gave him the headphones, and the envelope had the Enterprise logo on it and stuff like that. Well, the Federation.
Speaker 4:The Federation logo yeah. This guy Supposed to be a pop culture. I never claimed to be pop culture at all.
Speaker 2:You're right. It's not like we do a pop culture pod or anything.
Speaker 4:Nope, I don't ever contribute. I just interrupt. I don't I, but only if it's your own question yeah, yeah, uh, so we did talk about hold on, hold on though that's a good question, that's.
Speaker 2:I'm curious myself now that I haven't really thought about that. But bringing that ip and like do you have to charge, like do you have to pay?
Speaker 4:for that. I'm sure they, I'm sure they paid a ton for it.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure, if they can, just because you know what it's like free advertising for them. I mean, I'm not charging you anything. Thank you for you know propping up my show and they weren't talking shit about it. That's exactly it, it's all positive. So you would think and be like hey, feel free, thank you I'm sure there was some sort of a negotiation right.
Speaker 1:Maybe not financial, but Okay, bro, look, that's what we want to do, and.
Speaker 4:Paramount could use all the fucking help they can get right now.
Speaker 2:Well, you saw the numbers with the South Park episode, right, Dude? They were the last season they did in 23,. I don't have you seen this, Jack. I saw this today. They got less than 500,000 viewers on their Season premiere of the last season Last week. 5.7 million, Well.
Speaker 1:Show Trump's penis.
Speaker 2:Well then you need binoculars, but either way, um Can't really argue that they did show Now we're gonna have to pay a fine or bend the knee and pay a Relax relax, relax guy it's fine, it's fine. Now we're going to have to pay a fine, or bend the knee and pay a.
Speaker 1:Relax, relax, relax, guy, it's fine. It's fine guy, it's fine. No see, trump is the president, so you can make dolls and shit. He's like public realm or some shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's some kind of parody rules that you can do.
Speaker 1:You can get away with it. Yeah, once you're president, I can put your face on a t-shirt and you can't do nothing about it.
Speaker 2:It's kind of entertaining actually. Again, left or right, it doesn't matter, you can have whatever fun. You want More power too, but I think you're right.
Speaker 1:I could see a negotiation where, hey, we want to use your IP and it's okay, fine, but it this time Let us say Mickey Mouse, or something Exactly.
Speaker 2:We've got to reference something. In Strange New Worlds, the last season. They can bring up some 20th century, 21st century reference to an animated mouse.
Speaker 4:He's going to be like oh, you're Indiana Jones or something. Five people will get it and be like ah, I see what they did there.
Speaker 2:It'll be us, we're three of the five and it'll be in our pot.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there'll be eight people total.
Speaker 2:We'll get the joke Stay tuned folks, We'll spot it out for you. Stay tuned everybody. Make sure you subscribe and follow.
Speaker 4:We talked about Superman Did everybody watch Superman.
Speaker 2:I can't remember. Did we cover that already? I thought we covered it. I thought Duke had it watched or something like that, but we did. Okay, all right, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4:Oh no, I watched it on Tuesday, maybe after the pod. We talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:You guys did you guys did it with like out spoilers or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah like spoilers. What about fantastic?
Speaker 4:four have you seen it yet?
Speaker 1:yeah, saw it on tuesday, or I saw most of it. Did you fall asleep? Yeah, dude, they turned the heat up. That theater was hot too what's going on right now?
Speaker 4:why have all of us been to a movie theater? That's been 85 fucking degrees.
Speaker 2:Old girl nap too, but that's because she was tired.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was Comic-Con.
Speaker 4:It was hot in there, dude. I didn't even notice. How was your guys? Well, besides it being hot, how was doing a movie for Comic-Con for the second year in a row?
Speaker 1:It wasn't bad. It was actually pretty easy.
Speaker 2:We went to a closer theater this time. Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know where Target is across from the timeshare, the timeshare Right over there, dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was behind the Target and that's because I accidentally picked the wrong one. I thought I was picking the one from last year.
Speaker 1:But it worked out better because it was only a five-minute drive Now.
Speaker 2:I'll pick that one going forward.
Speaker 4:Whatever?
Speaker 2:next going for whatever next year's july movie is. Uh, I will do the same thing. Uh, maybe, maybe, uh, uh, oh girl, uh, uh, jackie's woman uh, got herself a subscription so she can get the tickets because it's cheaper now for real.
Speaker 1:Luke can give me 80. Next time for real.
Speaker 2:There you go it's like why did you give? Why did you get jack a roosevelt'm like? Because I had two movie tickets. Is it going? To cost a Roosevelt yeah. Welcome to.
Speaker 4:San Diego. Oh yeah, when we were in the chat, I think Jack was like 280. And I'm like oh, that's a good Comic-Con number. I'm good with that number.
Speaker 3:And then Lou was like nope hang on, hold my beer.
Speaker 2:What is he?
Speaker 4:doing. I was doing like son of a bitch, fucking comic-con. I wasn't even there. How's it gonna cost me fucking a thousand dollars and I wasn't even there for real, bro.
Speaker 2:You did spend like 600 bucks too you were even there I don't even think about that.
Speaker 4:Hey, still cheaper than last year oh, oh, by far, by far Did I have the longest list.
Speaker 2:I feel like I have the longest list.
Speaker 4:I didn't even buy that much.
Speaker 2:I kept two Roosevelt. That fall drop, whatever it's called the fathom drop for the black and white. Luke. Vader, I kept that Fig pin.
Speaker 4:Doorables, doorables, success, they did not. Wow, that's wild. Considering how huge they were last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for real. We were hoping I got a couple of prints of the Transformers, one I pre-ordered. Then I found one other one when I was there Not a whole hell of a lot though the. Impulse spies were non-existent. It was basically let me buy 25 Roosevelt's over the course of the weekend, Keep two of them. Sell a bunch Paper.
Speaker 1:Comic Con with the rest of them.
Speaker 2:I think I got three Roosevelt's, and then my friend got one, you got four, you got three Star Wars and the San Diego floral, and then at least Maybe five, but at least those four. And then, oh yeah, nice, and then he wasn't even around for that.
Speaker 1:I wasn't, nope, I was doing other stuff.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, then your boy got one Floral as well, because you got no, he got the panel shirt, right, yeah, the panel, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mind, but, uh, like, like the one I, the ones that I would change my mind on first is probably cartoon ships, uh what, which is now called what is it? Great shot, great sketch kit, great sketch kit, yeah. And then the other one I would keep. If I I don't think I'm going to, but it would be that one, then it would be bad batch, then it would be nil.
Speaker 2:I almost did go ahead. I was gonna say I can't remember, I don't even think I got a neon.
Speaker 4:I almost asked for the great sketch. But I was already like, okay, I'm 3 deep, I don't need, I don't need any more. No, you did ask for that.
Speaker 2:I got the Neal.
Speaker 4:I got both florals and then the panel is my friend, so five total Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you got the regular San Eagles and I think old girl just got one polo this time the San Eagles floral she didn't like the other one. If I was going to get a panel polo, it would have been the Kermit the Frog one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that one was dope and the Spider-Man Popsicle.
Speaker 2:The Spider-Man Popsicle would have been my second one, but I was like eh, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was nice and walk-up.
Speaker 2:That one was simple.
Speaker 1:Sorry, the Polo shirt, polo boots.
Speaker 2:Well, they all were wristbands, but that was a walk-up wristband. They give you a wristband just to take it off you and take your purchase.
Speaker 4:So we had a conversation right before Comic-Con. How were the lines for Roosevelt's?
Speaker 1:So they're trying to remember. They gave us wristbands in Japan. Right, it wasn't a big deal in Japan, it was pretty easy. People was throwing fists and knocking little kids over and handicap people getting ran over yeah, like people got pushed out their wheelchairs and somebody had a gun, it was crazy. But yeah, they came out, they held signs, uh, with their time slots for what their wristband was.
Speaker 2:That part was cool, that they had that that they had time slots in case you had other stuff to do If you want a lot of time, if you had a panel to go to, you had another.
Speaker 4:Roosevelt booth to do.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have 10 to 11. If you don't get it, you're screwed. No, you could just like. You know what I need a 2 o'clock time slot, and you could do that.
Speaker 1:It was super cool, they allowed but no, as soon as they started handing out those wristbands, it was just like a mob of people and just you know it wasn't the roosevelt's people, it was just all the fucking comic. Yeah, it's just all the dick bags. Yeah, it was ridiculous, there was one more I sent the girls like further into the lucas pavilion because people were about to fight. I'm like you guys go further back and and then they're like oh, the 12 o'clock wristband lady is over here with nobody at her.
Speaker 2:Perfect, and that's exactly what happened on Saturday with my girl. She was over by Pure Universe, where they happened to have somebody with their wristband just as the fire marshal closed them down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it got that bad that the fire marshal shut down their booths.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not even just shut down the line, they shut down the booth. Yeah, and then let them reopen it later or whatever after the game An hour later or something. Yeah, it was like you could open it at 11 or 12 or something like that yeah, let's go do something else and come back.
Speaker 1:And bad, he still needed a wristband their problem was, they were by the door and people were blocking the doors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I agree, that was uh and then, uh, bb create was a mess as well. Not quite not quite.
Speaker 1:It would have been okay if we had tried harder on wednesday.
Speaker 2:I don't know, we didn't know they had an ada line yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:But yeah, just because we were so limited on our badges and we couldn't all go at the same time all weekend, we were just like, okay, cool, we just need to hit the shit hard. So we hit Wednesday really fucking hard.
Speaker 2:That might've been the hardest we've ever hit a Wednesday. Yeah, quite honestly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're all here all weekend and you know I couldn't wait in line tonight. It's just fucking Wednesday, Right?
Speaker 4:line tonight. It's just fucking wednesday, right, but if you saw a line you were like okay, next thing, move on to the next thing. Pretty much the next thing. Yeah, we have our list.
Speaker 1:We had your list. We're like we have hallmark this booth sucks, let's go over here. This booth sucks, let's try this one. Oh, let's get our stuff here and move on to the next one.
Speaker 2:Yep, well, at least you guys, get a wristband here, get a wristband here. What's over here? That's by this wristband that we just picked up. Oh, we can pick up that. That's over here. Like the black and white star work thing. I was telling you that, oh, that's right here. What's next? Oh, this is right here, what's next? As we work our way back down, yeah, because we, because again, between my list, his list, everybody's list, your list, yeah, that thing. So, between all, between all of our lists, it was like okay, what number, who needs what? It's like oh, 3800 aisle. Oh wait, I need something from there. Oh wait, monogram, that line's against the wall, never mind Next one. And it was a lot of that though that Wednesday night.
Speaker 2:Thursday was way easier. Everybody had a badge for Thursday. We were able to get in. I would say by Thursday. We were probably 90% 95% done with all of our shots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all we had to do was Roosevelt's daily things.
Speaker 4:We weren't going to be done with that right.
Speaker 2:No, that went through Saturday. Yeah, because the last shirt was.
Speaker 4:Saturday Besides the Roosevelt stuff, how were the lines and crowds and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:I mean, lou actually was able to get through Hasbro yeah twice Normal, hasbro Nice. Yeah, they weren't in the lotto or anything. Lou, just hey, I'm nice. Yeah, yeah, they weren't in the lotto or anything. Blue, just hey, I'm here at hasbro. What do you want? I'm like, uh, gi, joe and uh fucking darth vader, yeah I walked up and was like so how's the?
Speaker 2:it's like the line's open, you can get in there right here. I'm like wait, what so? And they didn't have an ada line this year, so I just jumped right into the line and there was no light.
Speaker 1:It happened to me one time they were like line's open dude if you want to go in. I'm like wait, where's the queue?
Speaker 4:Where's the people who are waiting for?
Speaker 2:the next.
Speaker 4:Where are the people that are waiting for the noon walk-ins Exactly? Where's the break?
Speaker 2:Now that happened the last Sunday. I went back there to pick up some magic and there was the booth, I guess the wall behind the register and everything. The line went back there and around to the back side and then they moved that line against the wall and then they still had more people against the wall, against the booth, going around the back side, and then they cut it off. Then they're like okay, no more people over here from now on. We're only gonna let people line up by the way. But okay, but that was like the first. I don't let people line up by the way. Okay, but that was like the first.
Speaker 4:I don't know, half hour or so of getting in, just the queue of the people doing the final push.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and it wasn't again wasn't bad. The One GI Joe thing and the One Magic thing sold out every day.
Speaker 4:The Cold Slither, yeah, the Cold Slither.
Speaker 2:Is that the Jeep?
Speaker 1:The band? No, no, no, it was the band that sold out the top, which is just a pre-release. You can get that on pulse right now. They just ship it next month.
Speaker 4:That was that was like for the mask stuff. We were talking about that and I was like I originally wanted the rhino, but then it was like, oh, it's a shared exclusive, like, okay, whatever yeah, it loses it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I lost interest and stuff like that. It was like, oh, it's just, it's just this, but yeah, so that first go through, which was I don't know Friday or whatever it was, I grabbed my Jetfire. It was there. I think Jack had the Cold Slither Band, anakin and Obi-Wan Anakin and Obi-Wan. There wasn't much else. I mean, I got a couple of magic things and that was about it. That bag was freaking huge though, good lord yeah it was well, let's well.
Speaker 4:Then let's rewind a bit. So how was your guys's, how was this comic-con for you guys overall, like, if you guys wanted to do like a high level, like fine, honestly without having the badges, which is the first year considering yes, they considering only having the split badges like they were Partial badges, yeah.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I had no problem. Let's put it this way Saturday I used a badge for maybe an hour just to go get some stuff quickly, but I was outside doing. I would not have done the Predator Badlands thing if not for that, and I'm glad I did it. It was super cool. I got to get a couple of drinks for free while I was in there. You know it was, I liked it, it was and again, I would not have done it if not for that. So I'm kind of glad in that sense. I don't feel that I'm other than hanging out with everybody, right, but even then, uh, we still saw each other pretty often on saturday I mean we still went to lunch together, remember we went to the barbecue, I think, on Saturday.
Speaker 2:On top of that, we wouldn't have seen a whole lot of each other anyway, because my girl had panels so I wouldn't have seen her for four hours anyway. I mean it just Honestly, it just happened to work out. It was like I think a lot of that was the fact that Wednesday, thursday, friday, we knocked out everything we wanted to really get and Saturday.
Speaker 2:Sunday. Even with everybody having a badge on Sunday, saturday, sunday was just basically all right. We got what we want, other than the Roosevelt shirt on Saturday. It was just a matter of okay, cool, you guys got your party going on. I'll hang out with the oldest and we're going to watch the masquerade.
Speaker 1:Yeah it was not bad. I was expecting a little more irritability, but yeah, yeah me too.
Speaker 2:I was like, eh, it was. It's one of those things where, like, if I had more time, I would have did more outside stuff, like like if if the older one was 18, we would have did the aliens thing and if I wouldn't have got slapped and kicked in the head for going to Abbott Elementary without her, I would have did that too. She's over at the panel. If I'm in line going to the Abbott Elementary, they ought to be like oh, I can't believe you went there without me. I'm like you know what? I'm good, I'm going to go play magic for a bit. I did.
Speaker 2:I got a chance to go next door and I did a draft that I hadn't done in six years. It was super cool. So it was like Jack saying, even though we all didn't have the badges, I was fine anyway. I can't speak for everybody else, obviously, but I know I was fine, I know my girl was fine. Well, she was fine because I was like here take the badge, because we had the one to share on.
Speaker 2:Saturday. It was like I don't have any panels really. So if you want to take the badge to go to your shows, go. She's like, are you sure? She's all the whole. I don't know how many times I heard. Are you sure? Are you sure? I'm like, yeah, I stop fucking asking me, just go. Yeah, exactly, that's more important than this one. Oh, I could go buy more stuff to sell, but that's never the priority. No, well, not since we got money, I mean, uh, where I'm not broke to go to comic-con anymore like this.
Speaker 4:This ain't 2006 yeah, right, you know where you're using. You're using what you're buying at comic-con to pay for the trip.
Speaker 2:Yeah bruh, I was selling back then. I was selling stuff the night. We get back to the morning. Yeah, you know, taking pictures in the hotel. I would be going to bed in the morning.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you'd be taking pictures in the hotel Room and posting that shit. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:I would wake up in the morning because I had my PayPal card back in the day, so I Get. I was like, oh, somebody bought this. Yeah, I have more Money to buy more stuff. So that was the cycle 20 years ago. Now it's like, honestly, it's kind of funny Because even Jack brought this up. He's like man, you're selling more this year and as part of it is because I know I have stuff coming up. The other part I missed it. It kind of reminded me of the pin hunting thing. So, being able to buy stuff, I will buy stuff and sell it for cost, as in minus fees, it'll be cost, it'll make zero profit, but it was fun to do, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So it was like it's like well, it really is it really is a game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the only thing I I plan on on profiting would be the roosevelt's. Everything else is like oh, if I make money, great, but it's just.
Speaker 4:And even then, if you, if you're in your groups and they're guys who are like, oh yeah, pick this up for me, pick this up for me, you might do like a convenience charge, right like 20 bucks or whatever, but you're not saying, oh, this 70 shirt is going to be 210 for you in your trading group. You know, like we don't yeah, we definitely don't do that.
Speaker 2:So well, that's good like but yeah, so that was me jack. How about you?
Speaker 1:it was fine. I mean, well, like you said, saturday was the roughest day because that was when we had the least amount of badges. But wife and little one, they went to go watch Smurfs.
Speaker 2:They weren't happy about that Bad review on the Smurfs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no, they were doing their thing. So me and oldest I think that was when we did Marvel Rivals we got the Roswell bands and we went over there to do marvel rivals, because she's super into jeff the shark right now and they were selling it.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say then you went and picked up the band from uh, oh, girl, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, yeah, like we got bored, I'm like, well, let's just go sit in a panel, let's go to ballroom 20. I don't know what's in there right now, but it's ballroom 20, right, so it'll be something it'll be it'll be top tier it'll be.
Speaker 4:It'll be top tier as far as what their presentation versus whatever the other panels are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they're like six d, e and f, like that's gonna be that I mean it ended up being family guy, so it wasn't that great, oh wow but again as far as there so he was entertaining, but as far as if you would have went to like six d and f, it would have been some podcast or something like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like Crapshoot, but Boron 20, it's going to be.
Speaker 2:Named.
Speaker 1:Mid-tier kind of stuff. Right, it's not Hall H.
Speaker 4:But it's close and the worst-case scenario is you get some sort of giveaway, you get a ticket, you, you get some sort of giveaway, you get a ticket. You go pick up some stuff that you sell Right, like yeah.
Speaker 2:Even if it's not something new. I just realized you nor her, none of y'all got tickets for any panel, huh.
Speaker 1:We did. We got some for Five Nights at Friday's, but it was just pizza boxes that they had left over from like New York Comic Con last year.
Speaker 2:So nobody wanted to walk all that way for some flat-ass pizza boxes, because I know we got our print from the Galaxy's Edge one, but that was it, I think.
Speaker 4:How were your lawyer panels Lou?
Speaker 2:It didn't even go, really yeah.
Speaker 1:He showed up and I'm like what are you doing here?
Speaker 2:I couldn't even tell you why. I was probably just tired. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1:I think that is what you said. Yeah, it scared me. You like popped up.
Speaker 4:I was like oh, all right, are you not going to jurassic park?
Speaker 2:it was six o'clock to six o'clock on thursday and then seven o'clock on friday, or vice versa, and it was like yeah at the end of the day, you're like I'm done, it's time for yeah, yeah, thursday, friday, I it. Well, that was Wednesday. Wednesday was getting out of the freaking parking lot, oh my god. That was horrible. An hour and 13 minutes I timed it To leave the. Not even to get to our restaurant. To leave the garage was an hour and 13 minutes they had issues with the gate. What that?
Speaker 2:was. They had issues with the gate downstairs. Yeah, To leave Exit gate. People didn't have their tickets to release it. It didn't matter.
Speaker 1:The tickets didn't work because on Thursday we did have our ticket and it didn't open the gate. It said oh, we can't read your ticket.
Speaker 4:I forgot about that Something.
Speaker 1:I was about to break into the control box and just release the gate. Reprogram that shit man just read tools. I was about to break into the control box and just release the gate, reprogram that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man Just right there.
Speaker 1:It was just closed with a zip ties and I make her and I make her keep a knife in her car, you know to cut the seatbelt off in case anything happens. So I was like give me your knife. And they're like, oh no, we figured out how to open the gate. I'm like, yeah, you better fuckers.
Speaker 4:Put your flesh and a knife to the camera.
Speaker 2:I would have been looking at the gate mechanism and whatever bolt is on there. Pull that bitch off and then it just opened. Or just sit on it, that's true, just jump on it.
Speaker 1:I tried lifting it up, pushing on it.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry I missed that.
Speaker 2:I bet that would have been hilarious to see have a little one think it's a toy and she just jump all over it yeah, yeah, yeah, except she ain't got no weight to break it no yeah yeah, it would have been like her whole 70 pounds
Speaker 2:yeah, it would be a springboard for her at that point, oh man. But yeah, yeah, so both, both of them. It was just like. It was like you know what, I'm just tired. And then one of them the first one was further away too. It was like I don't really want to walk all the way over there, the second one all the way back yeah, exactly, the second one was in like 24 ab or something like that.
Speaker 2:So it's up right next to sales for those and all that, that one wasn't as bad, but again I didn't get a lot of sleep. I was up taking a shower before I go to bed, so I don't think I went to bed before one. Even when we got back early, I still didn't go to bed before one.
Speaker 1:And you drove in. I mean, you had a rough week. You had a rough week.
Speaker 4:I wasn't getting no chicken nugget reviews, lou, so obviously there's no reason for you to have been up bass one chicken nuggets and freaking.
Speaker 2:I want that watermelon beer.
Speaker 4:Yeah was there any other? Did you guys do any other offsite stuff besides the predator thing?
Speaker 1:I took Lou's girl. We got to, we got into the peacemaker thing. That was kind of cool. Uh, they had it like a nightclub, so they had like a whole stage set up yeah, yeah, she was dancing apparently the whole time. Yeah, she was. She was getting her white girl on dude. They were playing. It was just a cover band.
Speaker 4:It's steel panther you may or not have heard of them. Uh, I love steel panther. They're the best.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I mean they come out, they do like some Bon Jovi and some Ozzy and shit I've seen.
Speaker 4:Steel.
Speaker 1:Panther twice in concert, please continue.
Speaker 1:And she was just sitting there, she was getting her white girl on singing and everything. But they gave us that's about right. They gave us a drink. It was Arizona vodka tea or something. It wasn't bad. Yeah, it wasn't bad. Um, we got a peacemaker mask, a peacemaker towel, and then they had some merch you could buy. So I grabbed a pin and some trading cards. I don't think I ever opened, and then everything was sold out, because why wouldn't it be sold out on the second day that you're open?
Speaker 4:so it was. It was a shawn of the dead. Basically, yeah, except can we have those socks? They?
Speaker 1:said um, here's a qr code. There will be pre-order open for all weekends, so I was able to get a shirt still nice. And the weird thing is it all came through the mcfarlane store.
Speaker 4:That was weird hmm, yeah well, they have the mcfarlane has the dc license, so I wonder the figure license so I wonder if they just he has more than that.
Speaker 1:He does like the collectible statues and shit too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, I just I was like, if they don't, I'm guessing that it was probably easier to just contract with them, since they already had for sure and then they, then they handle all the logistics, which means, yeah, dc doesn't have to do anything.
Speaker 1:Exactly, but no, it was a cool show. It was a little bit of a walk, but it helped us find the barbecue place that we like, so we had that the next day on Saturday.
Speaker 4:Yeah, how was that spaghetti factory?
Speaker 1:Good, like always.
Speaker 2:And Joe's crab chat.
Speaker 4:No meltdowns was. Went way smoother this time, good I was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was actually pretty fine. It was just a matter of getting everybody there at the same time, and once we were there, I mean, lunch was fine. Uh, waitress is cute, so that matters. That means the food tastes better.
Speaker 4:I think the only thing that, um, the only thing I saw on my list that we didn't talk about was just the ed9 print, because I was like uh, okay, but I was oh I, I went there, yeah, because I went to that booth and I asked about it and it sold out okay, well, I they weren't even very cool, like, it was one of those things where it was on the the blog page and they were like we have these eight prints, like, but they didn't have prices or anything on them, so that's why I was like can you find out what the price is? Because if it's like 80 bucks, I'm like, I'm good.
Speaker 2:No, no, a lot of exactly a lot of that stuff, like like the stickers and everything. A lot of that stuff was cheap. But I had to pull up your thing and I was talking to the the vendor with the booth and it was like, um, and he wanted, uh, this thing. And I was talking to the vendor with the booth and it was like and he wanted this thing. And I was like I don't know what this is. And I showed it to her and she's like, oh, we sold out of that one. I'm like, okay, it's fine.
Speaker 4:It was like third tier, like it would have been like, okay, I would be cool with having it, but I'm not like disappointed. It didn't. You know, if I cared that much about it, I would just get a commission done of it and spend way too much money on it, right, probably? That is definitely how that works.
Speaker 2:But I'm pulling up your list now. So the Roosevelt, that was yesterday's that wasn't happening. It was going to happen until the Fire Marshal shut down their ADL.
Speaker 4:Okay, so the Fire Marshal was fucking all over the place through this. Yeah, the.
Speaker 2:Fire Marshal wasn't playing. Let's see BB Create. We told you about that one. The B-Line was good because Old Girl wanted the same cups you wanted. So we went there and then she pre-ordered the Ewok set because they were giving you a discount if you pre-ordered it from there on site instead of later on.
Speaker 2:So she did that. Your print was pretty cool. That was last day I was worried about taking a print and then the staff were like, oh no, they're all rolled, I'm like, and the cardboard too. I'm like, oh well, that makes it easy to do that. That's that decision. Old girl ended up getting the K2SO one and the artist was an artist alley, so she took it over there to get signed. And then, for yours, the artist came over to the booth and did signing. So it was like, oh well, hell, yours is signed too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was going to ask about that, but I was like I don't want to get greedy and be like oh, once you buy this, can you go over here and do like I was like did you know that that Russell Walker was there?
Speaker 2:Oh well, you should have next time bring it up, because that's no big deal, like that type of stuff, especially knowing how the artists appreciate, you know somebody coming over like that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's not a big deal, but yeah, they only had oh God, was it nine, ten left, or something like that. So the artist came over and signed them all and I was like, oh, they're rolled. I will take one right now because I don't have my top loader with me all this. I was like that's going to be a pain. But once they said it was rolled, it was easy.
Speaker 4:Then, while we were there, they had the Vader one, that one.
Speaker 2:they had six left and an old girl bought one for her son and the artist actually came around the corner to sit down. I guess he had a time slot for about an hour to be there and they had six left and some lady in front of us bought one and got it signed and got a picture with him. And then, same thing with her, she got it one signed for her son and got a picture with him as well.
Speaker 4:That was the Revenge of the Sith one.
Speaker 2:Yep, Nice. So got that the Neil sticker. Grab that. Oh yeah, oh, that's right. Val was the one that had the Ed and Ein print the first day we went there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we tried on Wednesday night. She had a line at the end of the night still.
Speaker 2:Yep, we're like nope. But later then the next day on Friday, like midday, old girl's over there and she's like, oh, I'm over here chatting with the vendor. I'm like, oh wait, there's no line. She's like, no, I'll just walk up. I'm like, oh, so I met her over there. And that's when I asked about the print and then got the sticker. Then she ended up buying like a hundred bucks worth of stuff from that movie. I think that's where we picked up Jack's stuff too.
Speaker 1:I think that's the one that had the Joker yeah, Harley and Joker and then the Fallout stickers.
Speaker 2:That was the picture I sent.
Speaker 4:The Neil sticker stuff. Was there any luck on the Thursday or Friday?
Speaker 2:No, he only had like ten of each. That's what I put I was just like the Neil sticker.
Speaker 4:The other stuff would have been cool to get. But I was like mostly for you guys too, to just kind of like, if you guys hadn't seen it, I was like, oh, he has these other prints that he's doing.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you what, though Going over there bought more stuff, so it worked out. It worked out, so it wasn't just your sticker that was purchased.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's where my oldest spent all her money too. Stickers, little prints.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and then UCC Jack got through UCC actually Nice, but they were sold out of just about everything. Got the Space Ghost, though Yesterday's no Octo wasn't there. Oh, and then Old Girl got your Taylor Swift lanyard because she had some other stuff to get from that same vendor. Nice, that K-Pop Devil Demon.
Speaker 1:Hunter, thing, yeah that. Thing.
Speaker 2:So she was like oh well, this is where Duke wants his thing, so I'll just get his lanyard while I'm over. I'm like all right, cool.
Speaker 4:Nice, yeah, duke wants his thing, so I'll just get his lanyard while I'm over. I'm like, alright cool, nice, yeah, I mean. Thankfully it doesn't seem like anything was too hard, except for the BB Create stuff which is, you know, you still got the pin, the San Diego pin, so whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right. Overall, your list wasn't too crazy, it really wasn't the problem.
Speaker 1:D is why it costs so much is because you sent us to go buy you shit. That's true. That's true. If you sent a regular person to go buy shit, they'd be like 50 dollars 280. Yeah, you would be like hell yeah, 280 for comic-con.
Speaker 4:No, we're like, okay, not here doesn't exist, can't get this one fire marshal, fire marshal. Okay, cool, I got everything else.
Speaker 1:There had to be external pressures On us to not get what you want.
Speaker 2:You sent vets man you sent vets.
Speaker 4:This ain't my first rodeo son, so you guys got everything. As far as what you guys wanted, you guys got everything. Was there any surprises I had? I had actually written off.
Speaker 1:UCC, because they had and you guys got everything that you would, was there any surprises Was there any stuff that I had actually written off UCC, because they had the Harley and Joker Fuggler dolls. I'm like, oh shit, that line fucking sucks right, but I was able to get in Friday or Saturday. I'm like, oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 4:I can't believe there was.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. Sorry Surprises though Stuff I bought, I wasn't expecting to Go ahead. Sorry Surprises, though, Like stuff I bought, I wasn't expecting to no.
Speaker 2:There was for me.
Speaker 2:That was a symbiote, I didn't know. Do you remember last year they had the Dinobot I think it was Sludge that had the eyes popping out, because when somebody stepped on him it was that version from the movie or the episode, cartoon, whatever. This year they had a regular sludge and I and that matches more with the set that I'm doing and even the exclusive this year what the blackhead, the generation two snarl, was wrong because it's not the regular, the proper one, and they had a regular one of that. So I was able to get both of those dino bots that I was not expecting. That symbiote, um, along with the laser beak, the one that sits on, he's the magnet that sits on your shoulder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so I was able to get those, and I was not expecting to get those two dino bots. Nice, that was kind of cool that was.
Speaker 1:That was a nice surprise. I'm looking at my haul and I'm like no, that was pretty much everything that was on my list. I don't think I got a whole bunch of extra.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at mine now too. I was able to get the Luke Vader from Moose Toys, I got the Skyfire. I got the Symbiote plushes, I got my She-Ra Thrilljoy, the BB Create Death Star.
Speaker 4:So you said Space Ghost was sold out.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, you and Jack's wifey each got one.
Speaker 4:Nice Hopefully.
Speaker 2:I got.
Speaker 4:Mintok, the Mind Taker. Is that a chase? Yeah? Yeah, they had two chases with the Space Ghost.
Speaker 2:She didn't open hers yet either so I don't know, I mean you're right, she had two chases off open hers yet either, so I don't know. I mean you're right, She-Ra had two chases off, so I didn't open mine either. And then Old Girl wanted one, so I don't know if she opened hers, but the animation still sold out. The animation still sold out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they sold out.
Speaker 2:I also went to go get the Jetfire print Because the Jetfire from Hasbro came with the comic book. The artist who did the cover of the comic book was in artist alley, so went over there and had to have jack pay for it because it was cash or paypal only and it was like I didn't bother getting any. I was funny as hell, dude. I was like I yeah yeah, you're texting.
Speaker 1:I'm like where are you? He did. He's just like where are you at? Where? Are you at? We're. We're in artist alley like hh or something, or no. We're in or something. No, no, no. You're in g, like gg yeah, you're in like. Alley like HH or something or no, we were in Inn or something.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, you were in GG. You were in GG or HH and I was over in EE.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like. I'm like, okay, he's like pay this man, pay this man with PayPal, pay this man his money Pay him.
Speaker 2:I was like do you have any cash? He's like how much'm like 120? He's like nope, because I it's funny I actually wrote in my checkbook to take out cash, anticipating that I would take out cash 500 bucks.
Speaker 4:I know everybody does card these days and I never bothered to do it, never bothered to pull out the cash no, uh, no experiences like we had last year, where we spent 15 minutes wandering around fucking artist alley looking for the artist, while you were standing right next to oh my god.
Speaker 2:No, because because that's the booth I pre-ordered my sound wave. I knew where he was. This year it was the exact same spot and I do, I was. I walked right up to him. This time. I knew exactly where he was. Um, let's see. Fig, figpin, transformers, comet. The Genshin Impact cookbook for my niece. Yeah, there's not anything that's not checked off my list that I wanted to get.
Speaker 4:Jack, I should have had you look for the Devil's Due booth, like we did last year. You know what I didn't see them. They said they were there. I don't know which one's that. That's the one that they're doing, like the boys GI Joe crossover thing. Like it's not licensed by either, but it's like GI Joe, but super violent. So I backed their Kickstarter.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah, not familiar with it.
Speaker 4:So yeah, I thought I could. I Not familiar with it. So yeah, I thought I'll have to look it up. I could do it later. But I could have sworn. They said that they were going to be there, but I didn't see anything as far as specifics, or I would have probably said something.
Speaker 1:But I just searched vendors. They're not there. They were not there.
Speaker 4:Or Massive. I think Massive is. Let me see if I can find her Massive Chaos. Give me a second. Let me see here.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, I guess, the one downside. Remember day one when your oldest tried to use the Lotto win and they carded her.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So that was a fail. Wait what happened.
Speaker 4:Wait, go on.
Speaker 2:So there was a Lotto win for Pop Mart to get Labubus. Okay, except it was one of our people who wasn't there Not your badge, but the other one, so she had the QR code to go get in the line. But they asked for.
Speaker 1:ID. I've raised her to honestly because her badge matched. She was like bro, I'm 14, I don't have ID, but she wouldn't do it and she was like bro, I'm 14.
Speaker 2:I don't have ID, but she wouldn't, do it.
Speaker 1:And she could have passed for 18 to go through the Alien Earth experience, but she's like nope.
Speaker 2:Too honest, too honest.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the last update, the last Kickstarter update. They said the massive team is officially back from San Diego Comic-Con and after an incredible weekend of panels, signings and spreading the word. Well, they did signing, so I wonder if they were with somebody else maybe. Oh yeah, so like they were part of some other group that you would have yeah, you probably, I'm guessing. If we were, if I've actually still had facebook or instagram or whatever, I'm guessing I would have been able to figure it out more. So the one downside of not being on social media is that type of stuff like do they do they have? Like, just what is it? Subscribe email. A lot of times they'll do email. The one downside of not being on social media is that type of stuff.
Speaker 2:That's where all the news is. Do they have like just what? Is it subscribe email. A lot of times they'll do email.
Speaker 4:I have to look into it. I just did their Kickstarter stuff so I don't know if they have anything official yet. I know they've been pushing the other line that they have something. Sparks Mercy Sparks, I think, is what it's called. That was like a line. That was a comic they had a long time ago when when devils do like first came out with the gi joe and all that. That was another one of their. They only had like three or four uh comic lines that they were doing and that was one of them, so they just redid that.
Speaker 4:So I've been getting a lot of emails about that as well, because they're like oh you, you back this, so here's another project from them probably like this, yeah, so I'm guessing they were also pushing that pretty hard over the weekend as well, probably let's see what else.
Speaker 2:I guess that sunday was fairly quiet. Matter of fact, I don't even think we rolled in until they open, like we timed it yeah, so not even get there until they. Yeah, and we did. We in the line we walked in the building as the line was moving to get into the exhibit hall, so we timed that just to do that. Like I said, last minute stuff, I got some of the magic from Hasbro. We just kind of just hit whatever.
Speaker 1:Was that when you guys had 100% soft? It was Sunday, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, it was at 10.30. So we kind of just walked the floor until it was time to go to 100 soft and, uh, his oldest wanted a backup pin. Um, and my girl was short a pin because it went to her old to his oldest two days before. So it was like okay, so we go, we got that filled out. I got one of the exclusive galactuses, which is weird, man, it's a $100 thing. I sell them for $300. It was like whoa okay, but it's kind of cool and I might want to keep it.
Speaker 1:He is nice and glittery.
Speaker 2:He's glittery and he's holding the sad earth. It was like no, that might not be so good that might go on the bed, Lou I know you have a stuffed animal hammock in the corner of your bedroom with all your stuffed animals. There's only like nine in there. And they're Dinobots, okay, yeah, well, not the pig.
Speaker 4:They're 80% Dinobots.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, there's that. I have to keep the other ones down because Ogre was youngest, so if she stays over she'll play with them all.
Speaker 4:Dinobots not allowed no no, keep those at a hand's reach.
Speaker 2:Megatron Soundwave. You don't get to touch them. Keep your groby hands off the other ones.
Speaker 1:Soundwave. You don't get to touch them. Keep your groovy hands off the other ones have at it.
Speaker 2:You want to play with the other four? Do your thing. We hit whatever tea party you want. That's our thing, that's what we mentioned. We went through that on Sunday Once, basically, I was done because they were waiting for me to get through the line, and once I was done there, that's when we walked over to the hotel next door to do the Galaxy of the Edge. But before that we happened to get there an hour early for the panel before. And it was church.
Speaker 1:Holy heroes. There you go Like yeah, so it was how their beliefs shaped the jobs they take, or like how they play certain characters. But uh, james arnold taylor was up there. I'm like all right, fine, if we have to listen to obi-wan talk for an hour.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever, yeah it's actually not a bad panel, no it wasn't I was interested. It was, it was an interesting panel.
Speaker 4:It was like, all right, this is kind of cool so were they talking about from as far as, like, a voice actor perspective or from the character Just in general, because they had an atheist?
Speaker 1:writer up there or something and she wrote stuff. They did have a couple of voice actors. The guy moderating the panel worked in comics Batman, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because he worked with one of the panelists on.
Speaker 1:Batman. Yeah, so there was a couple of comic book guys. Yeah, two artists, two writers, and then the voice actor and it was like well, you're Jewish, how are you going to write for Shang-Chi? Well, I would write it how I would want somebody to write for my religion. You know, like respectful and learn about it a little bit. But they're like, just be respectful and you know kind of learn what their Stuff is a little bit.
Speaker 2:And then the girl. I can't remember her name, but her the atheist. Her approach was really simple. She's like well, I'm not Writing it for me, I'm writing it for the character, so the character has to Feel this way.
Speaker 4:I don't have to feel this way. The character dictates.
Speaker 1:Exactly the emotion.
Speaker 2:So that was kind of cool to have that play I was like, all right, it was actually, I mean, early on, I'm sitting there organized all I have this big ass hasbro bag and have a bunch of stuff and prints and I picked up some disc plates, um, and it was going through and it was like organizing stuff. And then, as I'm doing it, I'm listening obviously and I'm like I'm actually interested in what they have to say so I finished up my organizing as best, as quickly as I'm doing it.
Speaker 2:I'm listening, obviously, and I'm like I'm actually interested in what they have to say. So I finished up my organizing as best as I could put it, like on the chair in front of me and I was just actually paying attention to the panel. It was no longer playing on my phone or whatever, Like sometimes you do. You're waiting for your panel.
Speaker 4:I was actually into it. And then was it the same type of Galaxy's Edge panel as it was last year. Yeah, galaxy's Edge panel as it was last year?
Speaker 1:Yeah, just like updates. You know talking about Galaxy's Edge. What's new, what's the?
Speaker 2:hotness, wasn't those the same people? I didn't go last year, so wasn't it the same people?
Speaker 4:Oh, that's cool. Did you get the little notebook or whatever they gave out?
Speaker 2:No, they gave us a print, Bruh.
Speaker 4:they gave us an 11x17 print Nice, because I think last year we just got a postcard-sized thing.
Speaker 2:Uh-uh, they gave out an 11x17 print to everybody. The artist was there, so after we got our prints, we went over to Small Press and had him sign them all. Nice, very cool, so we had an extra one for you as well, oh thanks guys.
Speaker 1:I'll have to send you a picture of it. It's somewhere.
Speaker 4:I just saw it earlier.
Speaker 2:It's on the blog too, if you go to the blog. They put a picture of the print. Yeah, it should have been. They gave us a handful Nice, Because obviously they gave it and passed it down. We ended up with seven of these things.
Speaker 1:There are only like five people in our row or something.
Speaker 2:I took three one for me, my girl and her son, and then left the other four with jack and he just has his and one for you. I don't think the girls want him.
Speaker 4:So yeah, I'm sure he's got the two extras, in case somebody decides well it's good that we've done you you've done or I say we you've done the galaxy's edge panel, and both times it's been good like it's it's I think it's hard especially if it's the same people doing the same topic.
Speaker 1:We were just at Celebration and I actually went to the Disneyland panel at Celebration. So they didn't tell me nothing new. I'm like, yeah cool, I know about the robots and the updates to Smuggler's Run and everything. I didn't learn anything new.
Speaker 2:So I was like okay cool. Yeah, all of it was basically, but again it's also supporting right.
Speaker 4:They have the people clicking, so they know. It was a full panel dude, yeah, but I'm saying they have the people with the clickers at the doors sometimes too. So, they're keeping track of how many people. So it's like if you want that Galaxy's Edge group to keep coming back, go to that panel, even if it's nothing new, because it's supporting you know oh yeah, I, I agree, man, it was.
Speaker 2:It was well received. I don't, I don't know that it wasn't the biggest of rooms, obviously, but I don't know if there were more than 20 panel there a couple years ago bro that was. Was it that room?
Speaker 1:that was the cereal panel we went to I wasn't sure if it was or not? Yeah, did you go? Uh, go ahead. Look.
Speaker 4:Sorry, I kind of missed that cereal, though I was like I, I when panel we went to.
Speaker 2:I wasn't sure if it was or not. Go ahead, Luke, I kind of missed that cereal, though. When they switched over to Funko I was disappointed. The cereal boxes was kind of a cool panel. Then I got hijacked by all the Funko stuff. But I don't think there were more than maybe 20, 30 seats open. It was pretty packed in there. Our row had maybe one open seat. The row in front of us had one open seat. If they split it to left, right, middle, the left side probably only had front and back Only had five open seats.
Speaker 4:Nice Good for them. Yeah. People love themselves some Galaxy's Edge, I'm guessing it's probably also California. I'm guessing you have that same panel in New York. They were. Those people are florida people.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was embarrassing for them. Yeah, none of the panelists, they were florida people.
Speaker 4:They're disney world people no, no, but I mean if they do that same panel in new york or chicago, or when it well, I don't know if it's not going over as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but being in Southern, California. Down the street.
Speaker 2:Yeah down the street. That makes sense. Look, it was a good enough panel that I was all like, well, maybe timing-wise I'll skip December Disney and save it for May instead. I mean, I said that shit out loud. I was like they had me interested. It was like, oh, maybe.
Speaker 1:I'll just leave. Yeah, I'll go opening weekend for the Grogu shit. It'll be crazy busy.
Speaker 2:Dude, not even I said it out loud. I said that out loud during the battle. I was like man. Maybe you should do this.
Speaker 4:I mean, if we want to shift it to May, I'm okay with that. We haven't committed to anything as far as paying for stuff. So if we want to do that next year for our Disney trip or whatever our big group trip like I'm fighting with that.
Speaker 2:Do it May instead of December? Whatever.
Speaker 4:I mean.
Speaker 2:I can speak for two, that it won't matter to us Like we'll do either, I'll do both. Yeah, I was going to say I don't have a whole lot of 2026 action coming up, so that may be both. Anyway, I was thinking about that after. I think they're in a drive back and I'm sitting there like okay, so what's going?
Speaker 2:I know, obviously 27 is celebration yeah, yeah, 27 is crazy yeah, 27 is celebration and then, and all all things willing, uh, stcc. And then 26 obviously stcc. I'm like, is that all I have Huh Interesting? And I was like, yeah, I guess that's it. So may may happen. Anyway, we'll see, but that may be a thing.
Speaker 1:We can make a whole weekend out of it. We can go to LCAP and watch Grogu and Mando.
Speaker 4:That's true, we could do like a Thursday to Monday thing or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'll have PTO enough to do that.
Speaker 1:We won't be a leave without pay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, working remotely Guys, I'm busy until noon.
Speaker 2:Shit, I used to go into bed at 1 o'clock anyway, just work after hours. Oh wait, we're at Disney until midnight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Lou's on his phone on the bus, falling asleep. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:I'm answering emails from the shuttle, from the tram, oh yeah, but yeah Again, it might be both Seriously, because I thought about it and I can't think of anything else. I had planned for 2026. So yeah, we'll see. The other option is I may just say fuck it and go to Japan in the fall.
Speaker 4:And for 2026?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen, but I'm not opposed. I'm not going to rule it out yet. Not saying no but. Yeah, I mean with nothing on the schedule. It leaves a lot of opportunity. So Maybe I'll do that while old girl takes her daughter To wherever they go Ireland, whatever their senior, because they have to graduate To next year so wherever her trip is. But you go, do that, I'll be in Japan. I'll see you later.
Speaker 1:Your time zones will be all fucked up. Yeah, no shit.
Speaker 2:For real. Oh my God. Hey, there's no Discord channel that's going to help us. Nope.
Speaker 1:Let me check my voicemail in the morning man for real, I'll leave you a video message, so you know what I look like he's turning Japanese.
Speaker 2:He thinks he's turning Japanese. He really thinks so, for real. That's not even a joke, man.
Speaker 4:So yeah, so glad that Comic-Con worked out as well, because I mean it was kind of dicey. I mean nobody got raffle stuff. We didn't get one raffle win at all between everybody, right.
Speaker 1:Just 100%, soft 100% soft.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we had one person get one, popmart and Tamashii Nations, okay, which I didn't even use. Nope, yeah, didn't even have to Later in the week, it was a walk-up. What did you guys think of?
Speaker 4:Fantastic.
Speaker 2:Four. I liked it. I enjoy it now more, after the fact. I didn't enjoy it as much during it. But now thinking about it I'm like you know I'm going to have to go watch that again Because of the theater. I'm kind of liking it. The theater was fine for me. Jack was the one that was hot. I was fine. Like hearing that right now is the first I heard that I had not heard that.
Speaker 4:I didn't realize it Again.
Speaker 2:That might be why my girl freaking passed out at 12. But again I think it was more tired. But if she gets comfy like that, then hello. So maybe that'll be a. I have a meeting Tuesday so I can't go this week. So maybe next week I don't know what's coming out to see what's Tuesday.
Speaker 4:We're getting to the doldrums, my friend.
Speaker 2:Okay, in that case I may do that on next Tuesday and watch it again, but I did, may uh do that on uh next tuesday and watch it again, but I I did enjoy it I.
Speaker 4:It was a little shorter than I was expecting it moved um.
Speaker 2:It moved fast, like you were, it was, it was an hour.
Speaker 4:It was an hour and 45. It's like the shortest marvel movie ever fucking 10 years or some shit, was it?
Speaker 2:155 with credits and they got the. They got those scenes. I told this to jack too. The end credit scene and the end movie scene. They got those. They need to told this to Jack too. The end credit scene and the end movie scene.
Speaker 1:They need to flip those two scenes. Yeah, they should have flipped them. Yeah, I was mad. I'm like we stayed for a cartoon. Fuck this. Yep, I was like you got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4:Well, and it was a call out to Jack Kirby. I mean, that's what that was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of that movie was and it was fine. Again, I I I didn't like that. It didn't. It just didn't seem like enough was happening, although everything was happening, it was like non-stop, but not enough was happening.
Speaker 4:For me it was weird, so I didn't feel like it.
Speaker 4:It was rushed, though I don't feel like they were rushing from which was no, which was weird because usually when there's not a lot of exposition and you're just going like and people in your, they just kind of expect you to know what's going on and just kind of go with it, like I was glad that, I was glad we got like a five minute opening of of their origin and we didn't go through the whole fucking mission Like hey, guess what this shit happened? Cool, I like that. I don't cause again. Everyone knows the origin. We don't need Superman's origin, we don't need Batman's origin, we don't need the Fantastic Four's origin. I think the callbacks with the comic covers and that type of thing of them fighting the green monster and the mole men and that type of thing I thought was really good.
Speaker 4:I've seen a few YouTube channels where the title is like what was better, superman or Fantastic Four, and I'm like you don't have to pick. Both. I thought were really Like, if we're doing a soft reset of the MCU, I think this is a fine way to start it, you know, and for Superman, same type of thing, I think, if you're resetting the DCU, like, I'm not saying I'm super excited for the future of both universes, but I don't have a problem with them going. Okay, we're gonna.
Speaker 2:so um, first of all, you can compare them. Uh, you, you, you, you can like one more than the other, but I I I'll put it in the that whole star trek, star wars universe type thing. You know they're not the same, they're you in that sense. Do you want-fi or do you want sci-fantasy? Take your pick. Superman. The way I look at it is simple as this. You had to go pick one of them to watch again. Which one are you watching? And to me that tells you which one you like more. I've seen Superman twice. It's hard for me to say, because I would pick Fantastic Four just to balance that out. But does that mean I like Fantastic Four over Superman? I don't think so. I don't think I like them both equally as well. I think I would probably watch Superman again over Fantastic Four, but it would be very close. That's because of my mood right now. Ask me again next Sunday when we do this and I might pick Fantastic Four. I mean, it's hard to say.
Speaker 1:Because they're different movies. They are.
Speaker 2:The people who are like Duke saying, no, he's right, you can't just go with. I have to pick one. The YouTube comparison who did it better? Who reset their universe better? Man, they both reset. Move on, stop tripping it's. You don't have to make everything a competition.
Speaker 4:I. What I liked about both of them, like I was saying earlier with fantastic four is what I liked about both of them is that they I thought they both did a really good balance of explaining things without explaining everything Right, like both movies did a good job of like there was some assumptions through both that you kind of understood what was going on and if you didn't get it, like it wasn't you, if you got it, you got more out of it but you didn't get hurt by not knowing it, if that makes sense I did.
Speaker 2:I got hurt by not knowing why hot girl's screaming all the goddamn time.
Speaker 4:But that's a.
Speaker 1:And there's Lou's answer. Fuck Superman. Yeah, there you go, exactly.
Speaker 2:Fantastic Four, that's my answer.
Speaker 1:I just said.
Speaker 4:Kirby better. I did lean over to my friend and say shit, it's Superman. When we were watching Superman, lou would have hit me. We're never watching Superman together. I don't know why that shit's so funny to me. He's like I wanted to hate that guy but I couldn't. I respect it.
Speaker 1:Oh man Lou, when you get a second, look at your canvas and look at the COA on the back. A little something on there. Ooh.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay.
Speaker 4:Spicy. Go do it right now, Lou. Pause the podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm all looking over, I'm all like. I know exactly where it is too. It's in the bedroom on top of a Funko box.
Speaker 1:Of course it is.
Speaker 2:Next to my lamp.
Speaker 4:How was Funko not having a big presence at comic-con for you guys this year?
Speaker 2:weird man. It was weird. I only walked over to that section one time on friday I think maybe thursday it might have been saturday that we went over there and I went to that corner where all this stuff usually is and where the people are usually walking back and forth trying to rush to get into the line when the regular line opens up. Man, it was clear, it was easy to walk back there. It was not a whole lot going on. If.
Speaker 2:I made an effort. I probably could have gotten the overflow line just fine, but just didn't bother to make the effort.
Speaker 1:When we were back there, there was nobody in line, even though it was still timed, and they were still yelling at everybody Keep walking, keep walking. I and they're still yelling at everybody, keep walking, keep walking. I'm like ain't nobody trying to get in your stupid ass line.
Speaker 2:bro, Call me on security. It's like nobody. Yeah, exactly, it was actually pretty weak for what they had to present. So yeah, like I said, I think it was Thursday around three or four, something like that. It might have been Friday, but either way, I know it was late afternoon and I know we walked over and we both kind of looked around like this is weird. Yeah, why is it in that house? Why?
Speaker 4:isn't the fire marshal over here, yep? Why is he shooting at?
Speaker 2:Roosevelt For real, though, honestly, even Jazwares wasn't crazy this year, because that was a mess. Mattel was still crazy.
Speaker 1:Mattel still had. The Mattel was still crazy. Mattel still had.
Speaker 2:Mattel was still selling everything out. Yeah, all their hot stuff was still going and they still had security. They still had get off the wall. They still had all this stuff they had.
Speaker 1:They actually had good exclusives though. I would have been mad. Yeah, back to the Future. I think they had Jaws, jaws. Yeah, the Jurassic Park at the convention.
Speaker 2:Did you have something that fell out in cart?
Speaker 1:when you tried. Yeah, it was Mattel. Both of them actually did. I was going to get Back to the Future and the Jurassic Park.
Speaker 4:The Jurassic Park one was pretty cool yeah.
Speaker 1:Dinosaur attacking Comic-Con and the dude in the inflatable t-rex suit.
Speaker 2:that was pretty good, the bag with the comic-con bag yeah, um, speaking of that lego dude, that lego convention center, that was sweet sweet yeah, oh, so they rebuilt, they did like a they built the convention center of the yeah, a through g man. They had the street, the streets and everything.
Speaker 1:And then they built the convention hall on the other side.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was remarkable, absolutely remarkable. Yeah, the Lego convention.
Speaker 1:I saw it on Wednesday night online. I'm like, oh, we need to walk by the Lego booth. I finally went over there on Friday.
Speaker 4:You see him walk out there at like 10 30, putting the lake, closing the street. That would be funny yeah they just have cars going back and forth and then they put the people out and then have people have little uh lego minifigs pointing to the turn.
Speaker 1:You have to turn and then inside the hall they had the convention center rebuilt too. Wow, okay, it was like lego-ception it was, but it was all.
Speaker 4:I'm guessing it was all generic vendors, though it was just a rep like a actually, except for their booth. They were exactly, of course, which which also then had a smaller version of the convention center and the convention. No, it was cool because, um, is this a convention center for us? That would be for a lot of the convention center and the convention. No, it was cool because, um, is this a convention center for us?
Speaker 1:that would be for a lot of the booths. They actually had kids building, like there was an activity you could go over and build a booth and they would put it in the convention center?
Speaker 2:yeah, and they place it in there stealing, our stealing, our ideas. I see how it is yeah, basically, man, that reminds me. Do you have to reach out to them or them to you for 27? How does that work?
Speaker 4:I got invited to the their oldest graduation party and I replied and said I don't know if I'll be able to make it, but, uh, 27 right. And then they didn't respond it. So I don't know. I'm just like okay, like if I do it, if I, if they reach out to me, cool, I mean I might ping them and just say, hey, but I mean the last time they didn't reach out to me, until like it was like December or something, like I didn't hear anything at all from them until a few months before.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess here's the question Would you rather do that, or rather just be a guest?
Speaker 1:Like go enjoy, Do you want to hang out with them or do you want to hang out with us?
Speaker 4:I mean again now that I know, like I, I would go into it with a different mentality than I did last time. So if I did it again, it would be oh, I'm just working, like I just have to work for these hours, right, because that was, that was what I had to do before, instead of how it was like again it became. It went from a family to being a business, right, like, okay, cool, I show up at 10 o'clock, I'll be done at two, cool, all right. And now I'm gonna go hang out with you guys, because I got to hang out with you guys way more at this last celebration than I have ever before.
Speaker 4:Like, the only times I ever saw you guys before is when you'd walk by the booth and I'd be like hi, you know and maybe here we brought you stuff here yeah, here's a shibaka pin yeah yeah, yeah, or, or, or if.
Speaker 4:Like we went and got lunch or something like that, right, we got to hang out. So now that I have, now I know my brain now knows what to expect, I wouldn't mind working again because the benefits I felt were great as far as that goes right, like getting the hotel room getting the badge, getting all that stuff, room getting the badge, getting all that stuff. It was way more, it was less, it was more stressful because I didn't know how it was going to work. But now I know how it's going to work, I'm not going to be worried about it, you know. And again, like if, if I still get to do the panels and stuff like that that I want and I have to work a little bit outside of that while you guys are doing pin hunting and all of that stuff that I don't necessarily have a big interest in doing, pin hunting. Who does that?
Speaker 4:Sorry, this year's Comic Con just warned you off of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like pins. Pins are stupid. Who does that?
Speaker 2:I would never not get three cents.
Speaker 4:What Spending? $100 in a vending machine to get blind box pins? No, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2:That is the only thing that's bad. Spend $50 to get a pin Again. It worked out for the most part because I think eight of the seven of the nine that you had to buy something I was okay with. Of the seven of the nine that you had to buy something, uh, I was okay with buying the seven. It was like okay, I kind of want this. Okay, well, that weird one that we played the game.
Speaker 1:I didn't mind that one at all. That was kind of fun. Plus we ended up with like some cool junk out of it that one with the, the matching the thingies they gave you prints.
Speaker 2:So okay, I like that one. I, oh, I like the, the Topps one, the.
Speaker 1:Topps one.
Speaker 2:Those little squishy guys that I don't think I would have purchased if not for the pin. I don't mind that. I have those little squishy guys. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at anything. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 2:The spray was the only one that's like really, but it worked because Duke needed it for his shirt. Yeah, for his Portland shirt. It was like, okay, still had value, didn't smell bad and it wasn't that expensive. And it wasn't that expensive.
Speaker 4:And it didn't smell bad. Yeah, see.
Speaker 2:I mean it was like alright, but when you're trying to get multiple sets dog, that person after the fact, I'm going to, I'm going to be that person hanging out at the purchase line.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, that was such a good idea.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was the people who want this stuff but don't want the pen. It's like I'm going to. I'm going to have about 20, $10 bills on me.
Speaker 1:And I'd be like I'll, there you go, I got a coin. What do you want? What do you want I got you.
Speaker 2:I was like all right, I'm going to be all over that. I will pay the tax for your. Basically, I'll cover the tax for whatever you just bought. That was a great idea. I have my traders Fuck it.
Speaker 1:I'm like, hey, I got pins, you want to trade a pin?
Speaker 2:I would like your pin. There's way more not collecting them than there are collecting them. So they'll be happy for shit, $10, $20. If they say I'll do it for $20, I'm like dude.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say yes Because you probably just saved me $30, $50 or something.
Speaker 2:You just saved me $35 minimum. If it's $50 plus tax, so 55, and you want 20, you save me 35 bucks. I will do it. So, once I get my set quote unquote properly, I will have. No, I got nothing to do. What are you going to do? I'm going to go hang out over here and try to buy people's pins until I get like five and I'm going to go to the next booth and do it. Keep doing it until it's like why not?
Speaker 4:I will be interested to see, now that we've done both an international and the US-based ones, how much of that carries over. Hot Toys had a giant fucking booth. Does Hot Toys have a giant fucking booth at 27? No, no way. Is there the suit deodorizer? Is that company coming?
Speaker 2:over.
Speaker 4:To me it'll be interesting, now that we've done an international one and we've seen those local yeah, the local ones to japan. How many of those come to comic or, sorry, come to celebration over here? Um? Or how many of them go sorry, 10, or how I'm gonna say 10 how many of them are working with US based vendors? To where you go, to their booth and then you see, oh, here's the suit deodorizer from Japan, right like, but it's just a glass case in another.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the one that I would not mind Seeing is the one I think the first one we got into where we were in line for like 2 hours when Duke Was trying to get over to Roosevelt's and we saw the panel. One we got into where we were in line for like two hours when Duke was trying to get over to Roosevelt's and we saw the panel because we saw Ryan and Dossling the flags, the banners or whatever we were doing. Yeah, the flags, the towels, the banners, the sticker sets.
Speaker 2:I would be okay getting stuff from them.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I actually didn't mind that booth. The rest of them, like I said, wasn't horrible. But I think Duke's right. If those spray people are going to be there clothing spray people are going to be there it would be through a different vendor.
Speaker 1:They'll be like it's a Dr Squatch booth or something.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. They're carrying that product. I could see that, but hot toys it'll just depend. It just worked out that they had some good stuff that people wanted, but they had one of the biggest booths at celebration if not the biggest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the biggest, not even close, they had a museum and a store. Yeah well, it was shitty, it was both that line there.
Speaker 4:We had one line for both because I would have been cool to do the museum but I wasn't about to wait in the line for I mean, it was an advertised museum, it just they just had the dolls that they were selling there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just the stuff they had, yeah uh, I mean, fine, have a big line, I'll just pull an oldest child and just kind of jump right in it oldest, not quite 18 right, she totally cheated, but you know it's fine to cheat in japan yeah, that was okay, if it means you get a low.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she got her low scouts.
Speaker 2:She didn't care that's what matters, um but but yeah that, yeah, that's a good, that's a good point. I wonder, like, what the differences are going to be, like how I imagine a lot, I imagine a lot.
Speaker 4:well, the artists There'll be a ton more artists, and all those artists.
Speaker 2:Oh God yeah.
Speaker 1:Like yeah.
Speaker 2:There will be a crap ton more artists, I mean.
Speaker 1:But it's also the 50th. I don't think we can. It wouldn't be a super fair comparison. It's going to be the 50th anniversary of Star Wars. I mean, this shit's going to be huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, I don't even mean size-wise, I'm on Duke's track, I think, of the vendors. I'm curious with the vendors, but overall, oh, it's going to be ginormous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it almost has to be the vendors, the autographs, the artist alley, all that shit's going to be fucking bonkers.
Speaker 2:Anybody who's alive that had anything to do with the original Star Wars.
Speaker 4:I imagine they're going to do whatever it takes to get them all yeah, they're going to pay whatever they need to pay to get them to at least show up for a day, at least show up for opening ceremonies like that type of thing, I guarantee you George will be there again, Like you know.
Speaker 1:Has to be.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:George, let's see, assuming everybody's alive, you got George. Mark Harrison, anthony Daniels, billy D. Billy will be there, although he wasn't in the original.
Speaker 1:It's going to celebrate 50 years of Star Wars, though it's not just going to be a new hope You're not going to celebrate a new hope.
Speaker 4:I think they'll focus on a new hope there will be but it's going to be a celebration of Star Wars.
Speaker 1:I think they'll focus on A New Hope there will be, but it's going to be a celebration of Star Wars.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, I could see them doing everything. Animation like you got everybody there. Voice actors from Clone Wars Rebels Resistance just all of it If they get Frank.
Speaker 1:Oz there, I'm going to his panel.
Speaker 4:Wouldn't surprise me. I mean, yeah, and all the ILM guys, I bet they to his panel Wouldn't surprise me. I mean, yeah, and all the ILM guys, I bet they'll pay for all. I mean I guarantee you Ben Burtt and all of them will be there, Lauren Peterson, all those guys as well, and they'll all be official, not just coming to the event, Because I think there's actually a lot more guys who are kind of maybe not as well known visually that come to a celebration and these celebrations even comic-con, because you know they love whatever. You know. It's one of those things it's like when you walk by something and you hear two people talking about something maybe you did, talking about how awesome it is, but they don't know it was you, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm sure that that's that they don't know. Is you? Yeah, I'm sure that that's a fucking kick, right, so but yeah, I can see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to be a good one. It's going to be a good one. I mean, tickets will go on sale in about a year and then hopefully, like the rest. You know, you get one person in, they can get several, so that way, only two of us will need to get through the line, maybe Because I think only I got through last time for Japan and was able to get everybody.
Speaker 1:I got in for a couple of Duke Saturdays, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean for the four days. Yeah, yeah, that's right, I got the four. We had the single day badges which we're still waiting to hear back from on that purchase.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's weird, we haven't heard nothing. Nothing, dude.
Speaker 2:Completely quiet, absolute crickets, but also following up with them.
Speaker 4:I don't even know who to reach out to Read.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I don't hear from them by my birthday, I'll reach out to read and.
Speaker 4:If I don't hear from them by my birthday.
Speaker 2:I'll reach out to Reed and just see what they say yeah, just say hey, we don't plan on this until December.
Speaker 4:Okay, fine, at least I got something, which again would be weird, because I think the badges are usually pretty. They never take, yeah, they should be shipping about now, yeah, long enough for them to wrap everything up and get back and then unbox the stuff that they have and assemble the bad shit.
Speaker 2:They've already on their website, they've already moved off of Japan. So at that point it's like, okay, no reason not to. We're watching the Facebook thread as well, and nobody's got theirs as well, so it's not just us.
Speaker 1:Whatever?
Speaker 2:man, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1:We should go to bed yeah yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's been a long weekend, so yep.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna finish this. I'm gonna finish this episode of Star Trek. I'm what? Do I go? I'm looking over now like I got about 18 minutes, nah. Nah, I just started it before because it was right before the right before, so I still got 32 minutes. But it'll give me a chance to like, uh, I don't know, get a dessert. I want something sweet. There you go, one of my flight, one of my favorite japanese kick-ass there you go all right, gents, good week good to get back in the saddle though.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, we had a couple week this week.
Speaker 4:Good to get back on the saddle, though. Hell yes, we had a couple week break. We had an AI. Did we do an AI two weeks ago?
Speaker 1:No, we did not, it was just me and Lou. Oh, yeah, yeah, and then we skipped last week, so there was only one missed episode. Yeah, not too bad.
Speaker 4:Still on it. I meant to listen to that to see what you guys talked about, but I did not remember.
Speaker 1:That was a long time ago. It wasn't for real.
Speaker 2:We talked about. We talked about Superman, without spoiling. Yeah, so basically we're just going to listen to your guys's podcast from two weeks ago after we wrap this up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, pretty much so you guys get reminded of what you guys talked about.
Speaker 2:Makes sense.
Speaker 4:Other than that, have a good week boys. Yeah, have a good week boys. Thanks for listening guys, all the losers Appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Welcome back everybody, bye, and we're out.
