Vaguely Inconsistent
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Vaguely Inconsistent
From London Letdowns to Star Wars Showdowns: Sports, Sci‑Fi, and Symphonies
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A sloppy London win doesn’t make a contender, and that’s where our Sunday starts. We pull apart Broncos hype with context that actually matters—travel, opponent quality, and why “we beat the Eagles” isn’t the trump card it sounds like. The Giants get real praise for playing to rookie strengths instead of forcing a scheme, and we share a handful of fantasy RB names worth stashing before your league wakes up.
Then we pivot from turf to theater. A Leo-led satire lands because it refuses to worship either extreme, and The Smashing Machine shows Dwayne Johnson shedding persona for performance. We go neon with a Tron binge—why Legacy’s ideas aged better than its de-aging, where Ares forgets the Grid, and how Nine Inch Nails keeps the vibe alive without stepping on the score. The main course is a Star Wars deep dive: the prequels’ clunky romance versus Episode III’s payoff, the original trilogy’s edits that help or hurt story logic, and the sequels’ biggest sin—no plan. We debate Rey’s learning curve, Kylo’s emotional ceiling, and still celebrate what sings: the Death Star duel, Crait’s palette, and Rogue One’s war-film spine that Andor smartly deepens. Solo earns a reappraisal once you drop the production noise and enjoy the heist that actually delivers on Falcon, Chewie, and the Kessel Run.
We close with something unexpected and delightful: a symphony-circus mashup set to John Williams. Imperial March, Rey’s theme, Rogue One motifs, Jaws, Superman—paired with aerial silks, a contortion “duel,” and a triple-stack balance act nailed without a wobble. Add a silent disco at a beer festival and you’ve got the thesis: things that know what they are—and commit—win, whether that’s a defense, a trilogy, or a room full of people dancing to headphones.
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SPEAKER_00:We make zero money off of this podcast, so I mean the NFL can come at us, but Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Jack, at your Raiders Tennessee game, thanks to London and the Broncos and the Jets, your game was not the pillow fight game of the week.
SPEAKER_00:It was not because I didn't even know that game was on. And I woke up and I'm like, oh, well, that's a shitty game. Let's fight everybody out to fucking London so we can play the last team in the league and barely beat them.
SPEAKER_03:Bruh, I I woke up uh at halftime and saw the score and was like, this can't be right. This should be like 30 to nothing Denver right now, and it wasn't. So I went and read the play by play, and as I'm reading it, I'm thinking, thank God, I wasn't I didn't set an alarm to watch this crap. I mean, right?
SPEAKER_01:Holy hell. The people out here in Colorado after the second time you find time you fell asleep reading the play by play.
SPEAKER_03:Oh dude, for real, reading that, I was I was like, man, if I wasn't playing freaking arena magic online, I would have I would have went. I was like, this game.
SPEAKER_00:No, that was fucking horrible, dude. It was mad if I was a Broncos fan. If I was a Broncos fan and I flew out there to watch that shit, I'd be mad they barely won. If we only we knew people who had done that.
SPEAKER_03:They were like a touchdown plus favorite, should have should have won by 20 minimum. You gave them their first turnover of the season. The Jets had not had a turnover all year, and the very first drive, Timber fumbled.
SPEAKER_00:Frankly. I don't know. Maybe the the time zone was too much for the Broncos.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, they were they've been out there since the first first of the week. They left, they went to the Philly game.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, they should have been adjusted then.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. They were out there on Monday. So it's good. I love it because it's like I've been trying to tell people the Broncos aren't that good. The Broncos like, oh, they beat the Eagles. I mean, yeah, but the Eagles aren't that good either. You know they're not that good when the Giants beat you. So come on now.
SPEAKER_00:Don't worry, our Lord and Savior, Bonex are.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yes. That's what I'm saying. What I'm hearing is that Lou does not believe.
SPEAKER_00:He does not. He's a non-believer.
SPEAKER_01:Non-believer.
SPEAKER_03:That's that's the Deonish shit right there. Deon Sanders everything you go. Do you believe? They have everything listening to sports radio when they talk about him. That's the clip they put up. Do you believe? No, man. I've seen your team play. You should have got beat by Tennessee of all teams. You got lucky that the Eagles suck. You got lucky that Jake Browning was the quarterback for the Bengals. You got lucky that you get to play the Jets, whose everybody's get right game. And you didn't even get right against the Jets. How bad are you, Denver? Right. I can't. Oh man. I I have I ain't gonna lie. Denver's defense is legit. I'll give them that. Uh for the most part, their defense really is legit. But the Giants actually have a chance. I didn't, I wasn't gonna give the Giants a chance to beat him. And now it's like, holy crap, that's a toss-up game. It's not even okay, Giants should be favored. No, Denver should be favored. No, they will be because they're home. But that's a 50-50 matchup right there. That's that's next week's 12 fight game of the week.
SPEAKER_01:But the Giants looked really good on Thursday, though.
SPEAKER_03:Like, yeah, but that's because the Eagles are bad. I mean, come on now. Right.
SPEAKER_01:But but again, you have two rookies, you know, you're you're playing with house money at this point.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:The Giants look good for next year.
SPEAKER_01:There is something to be said for that. There's something to be said for guys who don't know what losing is, right? And you just throw them in and you give them a game plan that actually works for those guys. Because so many of these head coaches and offensive coordinators are like, we're gonna make this guy fit into my scheme, instead of just saying, like, what are his best attributes? Okay, let's let him do that, you know. And that was what I felt like they the Giants did on Thursday was they were just kind of like, okay, like here's here's a handful of plays, like just kind of play off of those, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Here's the 15 plays we know you know how to do, just run them from different formations. Yeah. But the talk I guarantee the talk this week is gonna be Broncos should have lost to the Eagles, Giants manhandled the Eagles, and now that they play each other, if you look at those comparisons, the Giants should win. I think the Giants have a chance to win, but again, I can respect that Denver does have a good defense and that chance of things. I don't respect Broncos' offense at all. And after what I saw today, I'm justified. Justified in believing that their offense is offensive. I think he does believe. Yeah, see, I believe that they're shit. He believes in the defense. People forget that Bo Nicks was the sixth quarterback taken in that draft. I mean, don't get me wrong, he's better than JJ McCarthy, but uh still he's uh I had a meme on um shit, what is it two days ago?
SPEAKER_00:Cities in history to have their NFL team lose, NHL team lose, and MLB team lose in the playoffs and be eliminated on the same day. Philadelphia, 1016, 1983, and today. That's it.
SPEAKER_03:That Thursday was great to see the Dodgers move on, to see the Eagles lose, see the Flyers lose.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it was a it was it was a great day in Philly Hate Sports. Uh do you hate me since Philadelphia freaking sports?
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, that's the the city of brotherly love. If you went there, they would love you while you were hating on them. No, no, they racists. No, they wouldn't they don't love his brother. They punch him, take his wallet, and go buy a cheesesteak with it.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:And then they what the uh get the eight losses and and then they give up. So for starting running backs or running backs that are available, for some reason James Connor is still starting on 10.9% of all ESPN.
SPEAKER_03:The people who aren't paying attention, like like like Jack's girl.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's he's he and he and he's still owned on he's still owned on 34.9% of uh all that makes sense though.
SPEAKER_03:Because some of those could be keeper leads.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I guess so. Uh the next one is Kamani Vidal.
SPEAKER_03:He should be the next he should be the pickup. He's the charger starter. After the uh Harris and uh Mari Hampton went down. If you don't have Vidal, then dude, grab him. Can you pick up free agents or you have to wait till the waiver wire now?
SPEAKER_01:I have to wait until the waiver now.
SPEAKER_03:See, I'm in one league where there's no waiver wire uh unless it's unless the player is dropped. But yeah, put him on your watch list. You want Vidal.
SPEAKER_01:He's starting over Haskell after him is Austin Eckler, another IR guy. After that is Amari DiMarcado, the Arizona running back.
SPEAKER_03:And he's now third string behind Van Knight and uh Mike or whatever. Either way, he's third string now, so don't even worry about it.
SPEAKER_01:And then Jerome Ford, Dylan Sampson, Blake Coram.
SPEAKER_03:So Blake Corum got hurt anyway. Man, I know a lot about this shit. I need a life. Right? Somebody needs to get a job. Dude, dude, for real. I was like, I was watching the game tonight when Detroit got that touchdown to uh goth that didn't count. I'm all yelling. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. That isn't that is not legal. That is not legal. I'm in my head just yelling at the TV, like, uh-uh. You well, you got behind center, and then they explained the rule. I'm like, yeah, I already said that. They they stole that from my freaking yelling at the TV here.
SPEAKER_01:Let's get Lou here on uh on how this call went and how he felt it should go. Right?
SPEAKER_03:Interesting, interesting to see Detroit kind of fall off like that the way Kansas City hasn't been all that great this year, but Detroit made them look great.
SPEAKER_01:Right? Yeah. Uh how was your football day, Jack?
SPEAKER_00:It was alright. Shit, I tried to sleep as long as I could. So I just woke up, showered, went to the game. There weren't a lot of Titans fans there. There was not a lot of people in that audience.
SPEAKER_03:Was it all four of you?
SPEAKER_00:Uh three of us. Okay. One didn't want to go because first she didn't have a Raider shirt. I gave her a Raider shirt. Then she was gonna be gone too long and not be able to do her homework. So when we got home, we're like, well, did you get your homework done? No, I just played Marvel Rivals all day.
SPEAKER_03:No, that's see, that's that's when you take the the the Xbox controllers, and it's like if you're gonna do homework, I'm gonna make sure you're gonna do homework.
SPEAKER_01:That's how that's all right. And then every time you're on T every time then every time you're on TV during the game, you hold up the Xbox controllers and you're like, what? Yeah, and what the rivals right here.
SPEAKER_00:Join the crowd. So it's a little loud there for her, so I try not to force her. Like she did actually want to go, but she found good enough reasons to not, I guess.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you can always do the headphone things, and there's a lot of kids go with headphones, like the like the gun range headphones to tune out to block out the sound.
SPEAKER_00:She has airpods. The Apple AirPods actually block out sounds. Does that work?
SPEAKER_01:But also say I go to stay home and do homework and then not do your homework. That okay, that to me is where we have a problem. She's a procrastinator.
SPEAKER_00:I'm yeah, I'm not a homework right now, and it'll be done by morning.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I suppose that's all. But she also has straight Ace. So just don't don't say that. You know what I mean? To me, it's it's it's an integrity. Don't say you're gonna do homework and not do it. Just say I'm just gonna stay home. That's it. You don't have to go with the I'm gonna do this. Or you or qualifier, I might rather stay home and play this.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Or just say you want to stay home and play Marvel Rivers, whatever. Like Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's the thing.
SPEAKER_00:Just go with A's, so I'm not. Yeah. Well, yeah, again, it's not even about the school worker. It's not even about the school. I 100% knew what was gonna happen. I knew that was gonna happen, so I wasn't.
SPEAKER_03:Did you call her out on it at when she said it?
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I was. I would have been like while you're playing. It was like, I'm gonna do this. Here's my plan. Like, no, you're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_00:Sit there and play this, or you're gonna do it. You can turn it in late. If you get it wrong, you can do it again. School's way easier than when we were kids. That is crap. Yeah, like, oh, you turned it in late, but there's no penalty. Like, oh, you fucked this up. No, go ahead and take this test again. It's cool. That is whereas we fucked up. You were kicked out of school, you had to go to like to bad school on the railroad tracks and shit.
SPEAKER_03:You had to go to Vodec for all the bad kids away and learn a trait.
SPEAKER_00:You're gonna learn a trait. Exactly. That's how you build a chair. We're about to do that.
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna learn the difference be you're gonna learn the difference between arc welding and tig welding. Let's go. Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Man, for real. Yeah. How man, how many different types of knots did you learn how to tie last night?
SPEAKER_01:Yep, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god. That is so funny. But yeah, no, I mean, if you don't you can't do the material, I'm failing you. You're repeating you're repeating the fifth grade or whatever to hit nowadays. Oh, you don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. Okay, so you'd rather get bullied for being a good thing.
SPEAKER_00:But there's also a financial There's also the are they learning it, right? So like can they prove they learn it? Maybe they just had a bad test day or whatever, right? So I guess as long as they can prove they learned it. I'm not super mad about it.
SPEAKER_03:How do you do that without testing it? And if you test it, that's what you'll take.
SPEAKER_01:I think there's also a financial element of it too, that the worst in general your school does.
SPEAKER_02:Oh whether it's well, yeah, that's a couple times a year they test for that. But like it encourages attendance.
SPEAKER_01:Totally encourages those types of patterns.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, that's gonna make you happy, Lou. Because um, there are times she'll get like a 98 and retake it just to make the hundred.
SPEAKER_02:I can appreciate that.
SPEAKER_01:Or 97, and then she just freaks out.
SPEAKER_03:That's that's an odd no god no. I I uh you can I can keep the 98, but not the 97.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you got 95. No! Uncle Lou would hit me. No, they're okay with fives. Yeah, five fives. That's the only odd number they're okay with. 93. Uncle Lou's gonna hit me. Wait, who's this Uncle Lou? And what do you mean he's gonna hit you? 93.
SPEAKER_03:Can I get one more point taken off or added, please? Right? It's fine.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's like, you know what? Uh, I didn't show my work. 92. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my gosh. It was like, you know what? Starting with Thursday, it was actually a good sports four days for me. Dodgers win, aces win, giants win, USC wins, Pittsburgh wins, UNLV wins, Texas Tech wins. It was like basically everybody that's on my ESPN app for my favorites of my teams, they all won. Even the Lakers won tonight in preseason games.
SPEAKER_00:They were just doing okay.
SPEAKER_03:Well, the Knights haven't lost in regular seas regular uh time.
SPEAKER_00:That's true.
SPEAKER_03:I will give them that.
SPEAKER_00:They haven't lost in regulation, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So even that's okay. I mean, it started the season getting getting used to everything. Got Jack Eichel signed for the next several years. Again, have not lost in regulation. I mean, it's it wasn't a bad Thursday to Sunday.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, they only have 80 games to play, it's no big deal.
SPEAKER_03:Well, not anymore. Now they're down to 79.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Better start working on it. Oh, I mean, hey, they're in second place. He's got seven points.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, it it's five assists it's to be less earning his money. I mean, it can only get better because that's usually they they either start strong and then and then get back to the mean, or they start shitty and pick it up. So either way, this is the start one of the quote unquote start shitty seasons. Um they'll be there at the end. I'm okay with that.
SPEAKER_00:A threat. They gotta stop losing. And they beat the sharks, so that's all that matters.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:San Josie.
SPEAKER_01:After one winner's against the sharks, the sharks do beat the sharks, dude, do you?
SPEAKER_02:They should totally do that at the games. They should. I don't know if I've been to a sharks game here. That would be hilarious.
SPEAKER_00:We're going to the Ducks in a couple weeks. I can't remember which ones we went to. Chicago, maybe. I don't even know.
SPEAKER_03:That one game that we can't remember who it was. Whatever. Uh there's not a hockey team.
SPEAKER_00:Doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I'm trying to think and Duke, you don't have hockey. You don't care all that much anyway. The closest would be Seattle, right? Kraken?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Not that you give a shit either way. It's too much.
SPEAKER_01:It's far enough away that I hate all things Seattle. So that's true.
unknown:That's true.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Seahawks. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad the Mariners are doing it this year. Didn't the Mariners win tonight? Fuck the Seahawks. Fuck Carroll. Fuck beat Carol. See, now you got me looking.
SPEAKER_03:I thought the uh because they were because the start, yeah, the AL started tonight and Mariners beat the Blue Jays. Game one. I don't know that I like the Mariners because Nintendo used to own them.
SPEAKER_01:You sure? And the fact like Achiro like walks out, he like still shows up. Or maybe that was the Marlins. No. He like still shows up like where he went to high school and like does like batting practice and shit. Like goes and like drags fly balls and stuff. Really? Yeah, Achiro. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's fucking crazy, dude. I read like an article with his like routine one day, and like he's like fucking 45 years old, and he's out like six in the morning out running laps and hit and he's not even playing anymore. And I'm like, what's wrong with you, man?
SPEAKER_03:F that.
SPEAKER_01:But he he's still super i guess.
SPEAKER_03:I won't walk a block to the store.
SPEAKER_01:I he's still super competitive and stuff too, so like he'll be out there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I'll check my mail twice a week because I ain't trying to walk 30 feet to the mailbox. Man, that's wild. But that's kind of cool though. Oh, you know what I was thinking? You're talking about Nintendo owning. I was thinking Xbox owning the soccer team. But alright. Never mind. Yeah, whatever. Whatever. Where are we at in the world of sci-fi? What do we talk about? I finished Aliens. Did we talk about that already?
SPEAKER_00:No. I don't think we haven't finished it by the last time. Last time I talked about it?
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Yeah. Finished that. No issues. Enjoyed it. I have not finished uh Peacemaker yet. Still got the finale to watch. What else? Uh saw the Leo movie. Battle Another Ground. One battle after another. Yeah, that thing. Uh saw that. Uh, it was interesting. It was a whole bunch of making fun of the far left and making fun of the far right. I loved it. Alright. We're going to play. It was like, here are the idiot violence that the left does, and everybody knows that they're the violent group. And then you have the right side who's just racist and just in their own little clubs who are hypocritical with their I'm racist, but I'll rape a black girl. You know, one of these type of things. It was like, I'm glad that they're fucking with both sides because this is about us in the middle, this is how we all look at the far left and far right. The world. Yes, it's like, you idiots over here, yeah, that's how we see you. You idiots over here, yeah, that's how we see you. And it was like, I like that they did that. And and the story itself was pretty much.
SPEAKER_00:So I enjoyed that movie. I heard the opposite, they just made fun of the right the whole time. So but that was probably from a right person.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know how you could say that when all the movie starts off with nothing but the left doing nothing but violence. It's like, it's like, did George George Floyd part of this movie? Like, what is going on here? Um so it it yeah, there's there whoever said that they're only making fun of the right, they didn't watch the movie. There's no way they could have said that because they're making don't get me wrong, it's just that they're just different. But it's making fun of the right how they're the way like I described versus the violence of the left. If you don't see the violence of the left as as wrong, then okay, maybe you're not noticing that as you know what I mean. It's like, oh, the the left doing violence is. Yeah, it's like it's part of the cultural. I do hate the blacks, but you know, I'll rank it. You know what I mean? We're not making fun of anything. Well, they can have all my but no, it was it was absolutely making fun of the the violence of the left and the hypocrisy and the racism of the right, and they did a great job with it. And I it's like, oh my god, this movie's so I could say woke, no, it wasn't. It was so anti this, no, it wasn't. They did a great job of picking on both sides, and I uh it was two hours and thirty minutes uh before credits started, so damn. Uh but it was good, it was well done. It was well done.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I guess we'll have to wait until next week to get Jack's feedback. But Yeah, oldest is bagging the same thing. You watched it, right? Yeah.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I liked it. I liked it a lot, yeah. I thought it was funny.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. Again, when you're when you're not taking sides and you're just making fun of all of it and just how inane and stupid it all is at the end of the day. I mean, that was a big part of it too, was just like what at the end of the day, what are you actually like, what matters, right? Yep.
SPEAKER_03:So but yeah, it was funny too. I mean, it's not not even just the whole, okay, they had this thing, this happening. There are a lot of moments in there where where I was just like, U TF. Just kind of like head tilt. It was like, okay, that happened. It was it was a little bit of silly fun going on there too. Yeah, I I liked it. Leo Leo did a good job in that movie.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh. He always does.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that is true. He's pretty good. Although I wasn't buying him as a 45-year-old. It was like fucking old. I was all like, I honestly don't know how old he is, but I was like, he's supposed to be 45 in this movie? That don't seem right.
SPEAKER_01:He's our age, dude. He's like 50 or something.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I thought.
SPEAKER_00:I thought he was past 50, like 52 or something. He is. He was born in 74. So yeah, he is 50. 51 this year? Okay. Yep. Yeah. November 11th is his birthday. So he'll turn 51.
SPEAKER_01:I will say the only the only thing I hate about the Regal app is it doesn't show you more than like a couple movies, like that you're past. Like Fandango, I can scroll back and see through all my movies. Because I was like, well, what else have I seen in the last two to three weeks since we haven't talked about it? Oh, we went and saw the smashing machine on Tuesday. That was really cool. Oh, the wrestling movie. Oh, that's cool.
SPEAKER_03:That got that bombed.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and it's I think it's because there was a lot of people expecting The Rock to be The Rock. I mean, he's not The Rock.
SPEAKER_00:He's I can see that.
SPEAKER_01:But he did a really good job portraying. Yeah. That was the stuff that I agree. Yeah. I mean, they are. Well, and again, it's him and Emily Blunt who were in Jungle Book together, right? So like I think people expected, you know. And again, when The Rock doesn't play the rock in a movie, they don't it they don't come out to watch him. It just doesn't. Wait. But it was a really good movie. I enjoyed it. I'd have to look. I don't remember one. There have been other movies where hang on, I'll look it up.
SPEAKER_03:That's one of those movies where what it's kind of it's kind of like Stranger Than Fiction. Stranger than Fiction is probably one of my favorite Will Farrell movies, and he doesn't play Will Farrell in that movie. And that's probably why I like it, because I find him slightly annoying. Like I've never seen Steph, I've never seen Talladega Knights. And it's only because of Will Farrell. And it's not that I think it's going to be a bad movie when I eventually watch him, and I will, like Elf. I watched Elf for the first time two years ago, and I like it. It's just I just need to build up to it. Kind of like that, I can't think of his name. Is it Seth Rogan? The dumbass from Pineapple Express. Same thing. I'm sure he's in movies that are good, but it takes me a minute to watch anything.
SPEAKER_01:So when I say he's playing The Rock, I mean he's playing the Rock that you see in Jungle Cruise, uh, the Jumanji movie. Jumanji. Skyscraper, Rampage, San Andreas. Like, that's so when I say he's yeah, but he and this I'm trying to figure out what movie was he, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What movie besides this one is he knocked that?
SPEAKER_01:I think that's like his first like really dramatic role, though. Yeah, I think this might be off.
SPEAKER_03:So But see, to me that that's the stupidity of the people because the trailers show you that he's playing that role. He has hair.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, totally different. I mean, that's where it is. He lost a lot of mass, too. Like, he's not he cut off the roids for a minute.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't again. That's just dumbass, dumbass patrons if they have that belief. Because I want I know it and first of all, I mean, it's an A24 movie, so that should tell you a lot too. Not that A24 are bad movies, but they're they're movies that actually have emotion to them. A lot of them, by the way. They they they write good stories for the most part in A24. So they produce or I don't know what distribute, whatever the word I'm looking for is their movies. I'm when I eventually I watch that movie, I'm expecting something more along the critically acclaimed side of it.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I mean? So I don't to me that again, that shit's a fault of the fate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, watching the trailer, I'm like, oh, this is not a rock movie. At all. Like he barely even looks like him. I think I I like you have to squint your eyes and turn your head a little bit, and you're like, oh wait, that is the rock.
SPEAKER_03:First trailer I watched, it was like, is that the rock?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, but it was really good. Him and Emily Blunt did a really good job. They have a lot of good together.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there you go. There you go. That's right there for Emily Blunt.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and it was amazing how many like real fighters that they had, real UFC fighters they had in acting in parts and stuff.
SPEAKER_03:So Emily, I got a point.
SPEAKER_00:Jack, why did you and Lou break up? Uh we had a chance at Emily Blunt, and uh we both have concussions now. Fuck that guy.
SPEAKER_03:The first time I went to Paris was Emily Blunt.
SPEAKER_00:Shit. So oldest had me pick her up early from school. Whatever reason. Oh, she actually puked when I got her home, so she did have a legit reason. Um so we watched the first Tron movie. Oh, that's funny. I did that early the earlier this week with old girl. And then she's like, this movie's old as fuck, and the graphics are horrible. I mean I don't know what's going on. 1982 or whatever the hell it was. I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then Tron and Flynn kind of look the same, I guess, but I'm like, no, Flynn has the robe on.
SPEAKER_02:That's a tough part.
SPEAKER_00:And then yesterday morning we watched the first half of the second one. And then we went to go see Ares in 3D, because it's Tron, so you have to watch it in 3D. IMAX. Tron and Avatar, you have to watch in 3D. IMAX 3D. Yeah, right. Is that a thing? Our regal's not IMAX. I'm making it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, is it really a thing? Okay. I haven't been to IMAX movies since I went with you to see Star Wars.
SPEAKER_00:Fair.
SPEAKER_03:Um I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I did not like Aries at all.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, dang. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So then we came home and finished watching Legacy, and she's like, this is way better than Ares. I'm like, you know what? You're right. Legacy was a pretty legit movie.
SPEAKER_03:I I still to this day, like I'm probably watching I'm probably watching Legacy tomorrow. And then I guess there was some animated thing that came out after Legacy, like two years after that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So I'll watch uh eight episodes thing or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So I'll try to get that in there too. I don't know how relevant it is if I need anything from there. If not, I'm not gonna watch it.
SPEAKER_01:I mean it just gives it just gives more um Yeah, like Easter eggs. It's like really like novels from Years of War. It builds more.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay. Okay. Then I'll I'll probably just focus on just legacy.
SPEAKER_00:Uh that way Tron upgrade Tuesday night Aries. I didn't mind it though. But also I don't hate Jared Leto like some people do. A lot of people hate Jared Leto. Morbius. Um I mean, he just because weird the Joker, his Dallas Bayers club.
SPEAKER_03:If you're gonna mention bad stuff, mention good stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I people don't like him being the main character, I think. He's not he's not a lead.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, alright.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So but I didn't mind it. I mean, it was pretty, it entertained me well enough.
unknown:Shit.
SPEAKER_00:It was good. Uh Daft Punk did better, but I mean it's nails did alright. Okay. Yeah. Nine Inch Nails can make that kind of music, so it was not horrible. And it's not like Trent Reznor was singing the whole time or anything. So there was like one song I noticed he was actually singing.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Um but and that's what my oldest said, why are you gonna watch a Tron movie when most of it takes place in the real world? I'm like, fuck you're right. They forgot who they were. Right. But that being said, I do hope they make another one because mid-credit scene teases some good shit. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So after watching mid credit, no end credit.
SPEAKER_03:Mid credit only, okay. After watching the first one again, uh Uh it I didn't realize how much I didn't understand it when I was younger.
SPEAKER_00:I agree. Because when I watched it again on Monday, I'm like, I do understand more of this. When I was a kid, I'm like, fuck yeah, light cycles and identity discs, and we're just gonna fuck shit up.
SPEAKER_03:And and playing an arcade game in Japan, wherever I was, Texas or Japan. I remember playing the arcade game, the whole like, oh, I remember this from the game and all that. But actually paid attention and being old enough to understand the concept of what's happening. I was like, oh, this might be the first time I truly 100% understand what is happening.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Like even when I rewatched it before Legacy came out, I probably didn't know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right. It was and it like like it's like I told you guys before, I don't remember jack shit about Legacy. I I Same. I could not, right now, you say, hey, what happened to Legacy? It's like for a million dollars. I'm like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, until we rewatched it, the only thing I remember was how weird Jeff Bridges looked de-aged.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I remember that. But I don't remember like why he's the-aged. Is he is that a computer version or is that him real version back in the game? I have no idea. So it'll be all brand new for me when I watch it again tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01:Same. You have 19 episodes for the TV show. Oh, I think that's this on FYI.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, never mind.
SPEAKER_01:The main character is voiced by Elijah Wood, though.
SPEAKER_03:And that is after it takes place after or during Legacy.
SPEAKER_01:After Legacy. After Legacy. So Legacy came out 15 years ago. It's kind of wild to think about.
SPEAKER_03:I think he had a son. I think Jeff Bridge's character had a son.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. That's the main character of uh Legacy, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I can see the kid's face. He was in something else.
SPEAKER_00:He actually has not been in a lot. No, he has it's possible you've seen him in something. He has not been in a lot.
SPEAKER_03:No, but I I remember his I could see his face, but I can't. Whatever. Either way.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So so yeah. So that'll be.
SPEAKER_00:Whatever, Olivia Wilde's in it, so that's all you need to know.
SPEAKER_03:This is her version of Sandra Bullock and Demolition.
SPEAKER_00:Skin tight suit, little pod cut. What might you know him from? Let's see. Nothing, dude. I looked him up too much.
SPEAKER_03:I can totally see his face, though.
SPEAKER_00:He's like in an episode of this, an episode of that. He's in the Sylvester Stallone show, I think, that's on. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Tucson or Tulsa, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Tulsa, yeah. There was a Tron the Next Day short, I guess, that was released in 2011. He was in.
SPEAKER_03:Not Tron.
SPEAKER_01:We would know him probably from Country Strong. Definitely. Uh he was in Aragon, Four Brothers, Friday Night Lights. So he was in Troy. He's one of those, he's a pretty face. He's but it doesn't, you know. He hasn't done anything that's been exceptional.
SPEAKER_00:You're like, oh shit, I gotta see him. Garrett Headland's coming out with a new movie. Let's fucking go. And then uh Calcestus was in it for like two seconds. I was like, dang it. I should have had a minute more. In Legacy? No, in uh Aries.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:So he's basically right now we're doing spoilers. Yeah. It was just a program. No big deal. We're seeing that on I'm gonna see it on Tuesday.
SPEAKER_00:As you should, as you should.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, both of us did.
SPEAKER_00:I mean his Aries uh identity disc was cool. Evan Peters was a really good bad guy. I do enjoy him. Jillian Anderson plays his mom. So it I wasn't bored, right? Yeah, two hours, you know. So yeah, probably one. But what somebody said it is definitely the third best drawn movie. I'm like, I don't disagree with that either. Well, considering how much hate Legacy got.
unknown:Right?
SPEAKER_00:I didn't think people like Legacy that much either, but I think it's in hindsight, a pe a lot of people are like, no, it wasn't that bad. Like the prequels? Yeah, exactly. People forget how much they hated it. And then when they revisit it, they go, Oh like, oh, I was so blinded by all the hate.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say my hate is simple enough. Like like the shit that I hate, I still hate. You know what I mean? It's that's like, oh, this is if if like episode one, a lot of people hate episode one for a lot of reasons. Well, actually don't have the same hate that people have. Like Jar Jar, I understood him just fine.
SPEAKER_01:And he That's because you're black. It probably also and you also have the brain of a child. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He's got the any you know, Jar Jar's got those big lips. I was I was relating to or maybe walk around barefoot.
SPEAKER_00:Lou's like, nah, I'm out. Fuck Jar Jar. Walk it on the sand barefoot.
SPEAKER_03:Fuck off. He steps out, he steps out of that late, sand's getting up, and it's like, oh god. See his tongue's even like Jar Jars. Exactly. How whooped.
SPEAKER_00:Shit. No, I think that's all we focused on this week was just making sure we saw all of Tron. So we could watch that.
SPEAKER_03:See, man, see now you got me going down a rabbit hole. I'm like, now I'm curious that your guys' 11 Star Wars movies, we're not counting animated, 11 Star Wars movies, uh like Wait, wait.
SPEAKER_01:I only have 10. You guys have eleven?
SPEAKER_03:Bizarro will have the 11. Um, okay. See like I I don't know that I have I have a lot of I have not even a lot. I have hate for things, but like the movie itself, like like not not that we had any homework for this, but just straight through, I'm just trying- I'll give you mine. I don't think we'll have time to go over everybody's, but uh just because it's in my head, it's gonna bug me if I don't talk about it. Like episode one, uh there's not a whole hell of a lot that I really uh hate, you know. Episode two, the love story was forced. That's really the main thing for me. You just forced a love story. Episode three, I didn't mind, it's probably my third or fourth favorite.
SPEAKER_01:Uh do we want to talk about each episode as we talk about them, or do you want to talk about all of them now and then?
SPEAKER_03:Well, if you guys you guys have uh yeah, if you guys have something to do with it. Well, you did one through three. Yeah. One through as a pre prequels, really it's episode two's love story. That's that that's the main thing for me that stands out.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, the the thing for I mean, Jack and I saw episode one 19 times. Yeah. So like so episode what? We did one through.
SPEAKER_03:19? Okay, you got 19 times. I only saw 12 in the theater.
SPEAKER_01:But I mean, we lived in LA, so we got to see it in like fucking every single version. Like, that was when like Dolby like cinema was just starting to become a thing, and we had one of the four theaters in the entire country that had, and everybody was like, Oh, it's gonna be so expensive, nobody's gonna buy it. Like, and we were like, Well, we should go watch this, and you know, we went fucking saw we went and saw we went and saw Meet Joe Black to watch watch the trailer. Like, I mean, if we want if we could we could talk about trailers at some point, but between that I'm still waiting for the part about the hate. Well, so I didn't have I I don't have any problems at all with episode one. I still will watch episode one with no qualms. My biggest problem is that I never felt that Hayden and Natalie had any chemistry as far as romantic. Like I could see them as being buddies, I blame them. But I never well the I mean, but also I never yeah, I mean the story was part of it, but I just don't feel like they ever had anything real like it never felt like a real organic thing of why they would actually, you know, it felt more real than the climate wars. So the so the the love the love story also bugged me because it just kind of seemed yeah, shoehorned in and didn't seem natural in any way, shape, or they forced that shit like I was watching freaking never mind, uh Zelly More. Super girl and her sister. Uh episode three, I don't have any problems with it. Okay, Jack Prequels.
SPEAKER_00:Any uh No, the second one, I I agree. It the love story is a little weird, but I mean Anakin was weird. They probably shouldn't have had such a large time gap. You can't be like, oh, I haven't seen you in 20 years. What's up, girl? And she's like, yeah. And she's like, I look exactly the same.
SPEAKER_01:I look exactly the same, and you've changed a lot.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, exactly. And all my handmaidens haven't changed aged at all. No, they all still look the same, except that one's dead. R.I.P.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, they have that good water on Naboo.
SPEAKER_01:I guess, yeah. They have they're part black.
SPEAKER_03:They're still age, man. Most people look at me and they won't they won't say, Oh, yeah, of course you're 50. They don't they don't think that's that does work.
SPEAKER_01:No Naboo don't crack. But then in episode And now we have the title of this week's pod.
SPEAKER_00:Episode three, I have the same problem. That part where they're on the balcony in Pami's apartment. You're so beautiful. Oh, I'm in love. No, because I love you.
SPEAKER_01:No, I love you. But again, that's to be the love story. That was just a continuation. Yeah. So two and three.
SPEAKER_03:That goes more with the left of chemistry that I think Duke was saying. The writing, we all know how that gets up at all that great.
SPEAKER_02:How George is. But all right.
SPEAKER_00:No, I mean, I'll watch any of the prequels. I don't even care. I like episode two. I like Django. I like clones. I like all that shit.
SPEAKER_03:I I could I mean, for me, the order is three, two, one. Uh, I could watch three by itself and whenever, and I still get like a lot of love in my heart when the mask comes down and you hear that sealing of the mask, that high-pitched squeal. It was like, oh, it still gets me every time. Like, oh, somebody give me a suck.
SPEAKER_01:Lou's getting it. Lou is becoming Sean Penn.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god. Jack don't know that yet.
SPEAKER_00:Uh Jack's laughing. He's like, wait. Wait, yeah, yeah. You'll find out when you're going to be able to do that. No, I mean Sean Penn's a weirdo, so it's fine.
SPEAKER_03:But wait till you see him in this movie. Holy shit. Um, okay, 456. Okay. Any hate, I'm trying to think. And it doesn't matter if you want to go special edition, original, whatever. Like, some people like, oh, my hate is I don't like they brought in the spread the CGI LD. Like, that is none of that bothered me. Uh the the whole uh Greedo shooting first, I don't like it, but I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna put that with like the hate. It's like, okay, I just don't prefer that, whatever. Um I don't know that I had a like when I watch four, I don't think, oh god, here's this part. I don't think that. Five, get out of here. Anybody has a problem with five and go to hell. Um and then six, like the biggest problem people talk about Ewoks, they didn't bother me at all. I mean, I'm not sure that I had a real issue with any of the original.
SPEAKER_00:I think that's because we were children and that's how we we grew up watching them, right? Yeah, it's rose-colored glasses. It might be honest 100%. People need to accept that that Star Wars will never be the same for us going forward because we were kids. That shit was amazing when it came out. So we can't find I'm not saying we can't find flaws in it, but we overlook it because we are who we are, we're friends. This podcast, everything in our life was shaped by the original movies.
SPEAKER_03:First, even Duke and I there are no flaws, you can't find any.
SPEAKER_00:So this is true. But even Duke and I being friends, even though it went to the prequels, it's because we like Star Wars before. So moving forward, that's you know. Yeah, so even then, I like the prequels a little more because it was a good time in my life.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but even now though, you're you're both of you, all of us, we we're all intelligent enough now that we can look at it and have criticisms if we actually had criticism. Like I go back all the time and look for criticisms, I just can't find any with four, five, and six.
SPEAKER_01:My biggest criticism is I don't I don't mind any of the special edition stuff. Like the Jabba's, whatever. They could have I feel like they could have done better with the VFX that they had, but with Jabba supposed to be a human person or they were gonna comp him in after or whatever, but just never did. My biggest complaint is in in episode five when when Luke jumps off the weather vane and in the special edition they made him scream. I feel like that completely undermined because to me that was when that was when he became a Jedi. That was when he because he was consciously making the decision, I could go and join my dad, or I could just see what happens by letting myself go. Like letting myself become one to me, that was him his first really opening himself up completely to the force, and the force, you know, sending him down that tube, that type of thing. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:But when they took that out in the uh Blu-rays, though. I think when the Blu-rays came out, I think they took it out. Then maybe even the even the maybe even the silver DVDs that came out, they might have taken it out.
SPEAKER_03:Because if I'm dropping like that, or any other real person dropping like that, they're screaming. And nobody's gonna drop us.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. To me, it was a to me, he did it as a conscious decision that there was if he did it as a conscious you don't hear people when they jump off roofs of buildings screaming if this is a decision that they've made, I guess, is my thing. So and my point is that was what that was how I always read that scene before, right? So then when they added the scream in later, to me, it undermined the decision that he made. To me, I was like, okay, up until that point, he was like, uh, Jedi, maybe, uh, the force, maybe he hadn't really bought into it, even when he's getting in the X-Wing to fly to Cloud City to save his friends, because even Yoda's like, you're not ready, you're not ready. But I feel like once he gets done fighting Vader, and Vader's like, I'm your father, and then he has he has a decision to make, right? Because he could have easily came off the he could have easily stepped off of that weather vane and joined his dad, right? Like that would have been to Wendergir another logical decision to make, right? It's your dad, it's the person that you haven't had.
SPEAKER_03:They wouldn't scream.
SPEAKER_01:They shouldn't. I mean, that was how they sold it. That's that's how they sold it in the with the first movie. Like, I mean, when the movie first came out, and so to me, that's how I always read it.
SPEAKER_03:So the scream, to me personally, under I take that as they forgot to put the scream in. That's how I work.
SPEAKER_00:No, because we had the Wilhelm scream. You have to go back and read the novel or listen to the radio drama or something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but that's my only problem with it. But if they take it back out, then obviously they thought the same way you did. I'm not saying they're perfect movies, but yeah, you are.
SPEAKER_02:You should be.
SPEAKER_01:Like I said, the little things though, don't I mean I prefer the original song over Jedi Rocks.
SPEAKER_03:I've you know, like Yeah, like the little things I'm not worried about. It's just I'm thinking like like I said, the big things that's so far through six movies, the love story and episode two was just atrocious. It was gross, it was very important. It was so bad. And the rest of it, no real issues.
SPEAKER_00:But we got Batman uh leather gear, so fucking it was worth it.
SPEAKER_03:There is that. Okay, 789 or 7-8 if you're due. Seven, I understand. Oh, first of all, I don't have I really don't have much with an issue with 7 other than Ray. The whole now, now this is this is film.
SPEAKER_01:I don't have a problem with the movie except for the main character.
SPEAKER_03:Um yeah, exactly. Her soundtrack her soundtrack. They actually played her soundtrack or her theme uh during the symphony last night. I'll explain that later, but that was kind of cool. Um but and it was it again, here's the thing. I don't like it on film her character, but her character is explained more so in the novel, so it's less irritating to me. Because I understand that. But when I first saw it, though, it was like this fucking bitch d doesn't have to learn a goddamn thing. That's bullshit. Then you read the novel, like some of the stuff she learned, it's because when Kylo did his his mind mailed uh with her, she picked up a lot of that, and they explained that to the novel, but they don't explain that in the in the movie. So once I understood that it was like, oh, okay, now I'm less pissed off that she just happens to know everything like that because it was basically transferred to her. I'm like, oh, Kylo, you screwed up. He didn't know he screwed up, but he did. So cool. That got fixed later, you know, after I understood that. But early on, that was my problem with it. I know a lot of people had a problem with with it because they're like, oh my god, they just redid episode one. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. They redid episodes, or the the original rather, they did redid episode four. And I'm all like, first of all, they redid episode four, five, and six, get it right. Um but those of us back in 2015, we understood why. They had so much hate for the prequels and so much love for the originals, they wanted to do something that was more similar to the originals, which is why they rehashed the story and made it episode seven. Just bring in new characters so you can set up the rest of eight and nine. And then there's where the problem comes in. Eight did not feed on seven, and nine did not feed on eight. It was like, eight is like, I'm gonna do my own thing. Who cares what happened in seven? It's like, okay. And then you go to nine, it's like, we're gonna ignore what happened in eight and kind of go back to seven and fill in all these gaps, and it was like, what the hell are you guys doing? There was just no start-finish, we have no plan of how seven, eight, nine are gonna work. We're just gonna make seven, and then we're gonna make eight, and we're gonna make nine, and we're gonna see how we can put it all together and see what happens. And that's where my problem with the uh sequels are is just the no by themselves, were they okay? By themselves? You know what's funny you say that because I I know a lot of people hate episode eight. I liked episode seven very much. I like episode eight separate from the storyline. Like if eight was its own thing and it was a direction they were gonna go with eight, whatever, I don't mind eight by itself, uh in that in its own little world, bubble world. It's the fact that it's part of the whole thing, is why it doesn't fit for me and doesn't work for me. Uh like if nine picked up more on eight, I probably would be okay more with eight. But eight is really out of place because of seven and nine. The way those two were, I know JJ versus um uh big ed. So, you know, that whole thing. Uh that's really my only issue with it. Like, if like people are like, oh my god, I'm not watching eight, eight, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, not me. I have to separate myself from the rest of the Star Wars universe when I watch eight, but I do enjoy watching eight. Nine was just let's just get from here to here. Nine was like watching episode three of Harry Potter. Episode nine was the third Harry Potter web. Hit these high points, it's non-stop. We're gonna play this puzzle game here. A leads to B, leads to C, leads to D. It was like, okay. I'm I was okay with it. I didn't think it was great, but I think it was a bad either. So well, that was for me, seven and you guys.
SPEAKER_00:Well, Duke only has two, so yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What'd you think of seven and eight?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I I'm one of those guys that I didn't think that seven was very original at all. Okay. Which kind of bugged me a little bit. Just because, like, okay, so you're you're recasting your characters into these different things. It's always good to see the the, you know, the first time that you see Han and Chewie show up and that type of thing. It's like, you're like, okay, cool, but then re-watching it later, you're kind of like, does all this actually fit? Like, does this would he actually be this dumb? Would this, you know, would the does the story choice make sense? Like, but again, he was trying to form it into his whatever boxes he was trying to create. But again, with each of these movies being created in their own little bubble, not necessarily tied to anything else, right? Because I mean, again, a lot's happened. So you show up and then all of a sudden, like, Leia's there, which is nice. And then, you know, oh, well, why aren't Han and Leia together anymore? We got no explanation of that besides, you know, things. Well, what happened to their son? He's kind of a bad guy now. Did they?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, she went off and did her thing that she knew, the Senate and government, and he went off and did what he knew, which is pirating or piracy, uh, because of the way things went went with Kylo. So what happened with Ben? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They're like, shit, our kids are.
SPEAKER_01:I've heard the novels. I guess the novels kind of muddied the waters for me in that regard, just because they did stay together and do so much afterwards. Like all of them were still doing things and hanging out. So the movies kind of like made it hard for me to go like buy in on the oh, they just went their separate ways. And I was like, wait a second. We spent three whole the Legends novels or the canonics.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. The stuff that's not real. So although I was actually gonna I was actually gonna cut off that that is not like this alt-universe, multiverse, Star Wars animated. Just call it Star Wars Legends and turn the entire 29 book series, Vector Prime and all that, and just make it its own series. It's Star Wars Legends. We everybody knows it's not canon. Animate it, it would be freaking fantastic. But anyway.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, start with Shadows of the Empire.
SPEAKER_03:If we got a Shadow of the Empire, yeah, I was gonna say, start with Shadows of the Empire.
SPEAKER_01:But and so I guess to me, like, it did like I never felt that sequels like that the sequels didn't really stick with me, obviously, since I had completely forgotten that they had kind of explained why Han. But again, why why like I I don't agree with that. I Han and Leia should always be together because we spent three fucking movies with them getting together, and then we go to uh 20 years later and all of a sudden, wait, they're not together anymore. Like okay, and then episode eight. I mean, I I think I agree with you, Lou. I I probably out of the three of you guys, I probably enjoyed it the most because I thought it created the most opportunity for a different story, which is what I wanted. I didn't want the same stuff. I was I'll be honest, I'm probably one of those people that was done with the Skywalker saga long before everybody else. You have an entire fucking universe out there. Why do we have to focus so much on just this tiny little segment of the universe, right? Like the force influences everybody, but it only but if your last name is Skywalker, then you get super touched by the force while everybody else is just kind of like I kind of feel it. Woo doo.
SPEAKER_00:Well, but like Jesus. Yeah. There's a whole universe, but there's only us with Jesus here on Earth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. When the rapture happens.
SPEAKER_03:Toronto, go basketball.
SPEAKER_01:And I always had and I always I and and I again I I've said this before that I still I I had episode nine probably built up way too much in my head that it was gonna like answer all these questions and solve all these things and be a good movie. And after nine movies, they after nine of the you know, after the solo and the rogue one and all of that, like they had like figured out what worked and what didn't, and then they were gonna do that. And they there was like all the payoffs were I felt were like super short and cheap and unearned. And like you said, they were just trying to get to the end. They were just like, okay, what what can we do to tie off all these ends and make it somewhat make sense while still bringing in all of these callbacks from the previous movies, right? So I feel bad because I like Lando, I like the Lando character, but I yeah, like I feel bad that he got put in the crappiest sequel. Okay, Jack. But I liked your explanation of episode eight, Lou. We had never actually talked about that before, so I appreciated that. That that meant that made in my head it makes a lot of sense why you would feel that way about episode eight. So gotcha.
SPEAKER_03:Jack, what you got? Sequels.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I didn't have a problem with um episode seven. I mean, it I I'm able to take movies, especially Star Wars, like on its own, right? Like, I agree with Duke. I can hype it up in my head a lot. And I know a couple times, I think when we were driving to Comic-Con Lou, like right after the last Jedi trailer came out, we're like, no, this is what's gonna happen. And none of that shit happened. Our version would have been way better. Um but like I can go in there with no expectations. So I didn't have the problem. I don't I didn't have a problem with Rey having all these powers, right? She's a grown-ass woman, right? So she's been honing it unconsciously, subconsciously, right? And when she finds out about all this that maybe she has those powers, that's why it kicks in. Everybody accepted the little Anakin is the only human that could do pod racing. Nobody said a goddamn thing.
SPEAKER_03:He'd also been doing it for years. He'd also been doing it for years. This was a girl who learned shit in a for an hour.
SPEAKER_01:She learned it in a therapy session.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Anakin Anakin had been doing it for a while. So it wasn't like it was like, oh, I wonder if I can do this, and then go ace it and win the damn booth and eve race.
SPEAKER_00:That's very different. But again, she's been living that life, the scavenger life. So there are probably things that she has done that has kept her alive in that world because of her force powers.
SPEAKER_03:So you think that she used any kind of horsepowers in her life before learning about the force?
SPEAKER_01:Inadvertently.
SPEAKER_03:Like, like I I that's I get that part. It would be it would definitely be inadvertent. I'm just having trouble believing anything relevant that would, for example, the stuff she did, like the one thing I'll give her credit for, and I don't think she needed training on, was using the lightsaber. She clearly had a staff and was fine with those type of weapons. You know what I mean? Whether it be a staff, sword, I would expect in her life she would have learned how to use the weapon. I don't care that it's a lightsaber. It's like, oh my god, only Jedi can use bullshit. If you can use the sword, a stick, whatever, you're good at it. The Jedi mind trick, what was it? The calling the saber at the end to herself. Like Luke had trouble, and he had been practicing for at this point, uh, I I think it was a two-year gap between episode four and five. So he at least had been had some kind of practice, and he was still struggling in the ice cave to do it. Ray was like, oh, first try, just kind of use telepathy here. I got this. Over an a trained or uh somebody who's been training for 15, 20 years.
SPEAKER_00:Somebody who just killed his dad and got gut shot by his favorite furry uncle. And he was fucked up.
SPEAKER_03:That means he loses his abilities over a rookie. You gotta be kidding me. It makes him weaker.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and let's be clear. Yeah, but it doesn't make sense. It wasn't just some Joe Schmoe dumbass. It was James Fucking Bond.
SPEAKER_03:So I get that. And I think again, uh and Jack and I have had this discussion because I bitched about it 10 years ago that she was holding her own against Kylo, and that never should have happened. I understand he wasn't trying to kill her because he was trying to get her on your side, but to have lost the battle, no effing way. It was bleeding out. And he just killed his dad.
SPEAKER_00:Don't matter. It does. He was in his head. You're like, shit, I just killed my dad. My uncle just shot me. I'm bleeding all over the f snow for some reason. My wound didn't cauterise.
SPEAKER_03:Then with after an adult died the way he is, that would make you even more powerful because you're more pissed off.
SPEAKER_00:You're more angry. Because Snoke already called him weak. So he's already emotional over all this shit. He still loves his parents.
SPEAKER_01:And they showed multiple times throughout the sequel trilogies that the one thing that Kylo never really had control over was his emotions. So I could see him getting distracted enough to not.
SPEAKER_03:That whole that thing is.
SPEAKER_00:See that again? I missed that. You think Kylo's stronger than he actually is.
SPEAKER_03:No, no. I think he's just stronger than a rookie Ray, actually. That's all. I'm not saying he's not Vader by any means, but we're talking Kylo and Ray. Kylo should be way up here. And okay, he's shot and he's emotional. Okay, he drops here. Guess what? He's still way the hell up above her.
SPEAKER_00:But now Ray is fighting for her life and Finn's life. So that brings her up too, like a pregnant lady picking up a fucking car. Okay, so that now puts her up here. Still below him. They're more equal than you're giving her credit for.
SPEAKER_01:No. Can we all agree that Finn should have died in episode seven, though? No.
SPEAKER_00:No, because then he couldn't be late naked and leaky in episode eight.
SPEAKER_01:Or yelling Ray's name for all of episode nine.
SPEAKER_03:Now remember, this was back when Disney was very gotta kiss ass to a certain group of people, so at certain Chinese. Uh so the black guy couldn't die. Yeah. Except for the China version. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They don't have Finn in the city.
SPEAKER_03:It would have made more moon money in China if they would have killed him off and like they made different cuts. Like Clue. We have different endings in Clue going to different uh cities back in the 70s, 80s. If they did that with Finn and killed him off, China would have you would have got a billion dollars alone in China.
SPEAKER_00:Eight, I don't have a problem with it. Again, it because of how they were making it, I thought it was a better movie. I like that they did something different with it. I don't care that they killed Luke. Because whatever. Yeah. I don't have a boner form like everybody else does. It all made sense within that movie, right? But when nine came out and just retconned it, I was surprised Luke wasn't alive again, honestly. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, that's I mean, that's a great point. If you're gonna completely erase everything that the previous movie did, then why not just have Luke come out from behind the tree that's now no longer burned, you know? Like oh hey, sorry, I was dropping a deuce behind the Jedi tree. What uh did I miss something, guys?
SPEAKER_03:It was let me go suck some. It's just the Jedi vision or something. It was like Leia's vision, and it didn't really happen.
SPEAKER_01:There you go. Yeah, exactly. Well, she's the whole the whole thing was when she was when she was playing Mary Poppins.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You guys you guys drink the the blue milk off the teats? Did you get that down there? Do you guys get that? We didn't homogenize it.
SPEAKER_00:It causes hallucinations. But nine, I actually watched. Nine a week or two around island.
SPEAKER_03:You got the fucking sand, you got blue milk. Ugh.
SPEAKER_01:There was no sand on Octo. There were no beaches. It just goes right up to rocks. It was mostly great. It's all rocks, dude.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Yeah. I do love the caretakers. You still gotta drink the green titty milk though.
SPEAKER_01:From the from the lizard. The caretakers are better than the Ewoks, though. If only because the way that they look at Ray when she shoots the exact.
SPEAKER_03:And they're just like, Mother. It's their attitude. That's exactly it. I 100% agree. It's their attitude is what makes them a little bit better. Yeah, yeah. Because I every time that happens, that look is fantastic.
SPEAKER_00:Any hate on episode eight is invalid because they gave us porgs. So fuck it. Porgs are amazing. Especially the crying one. Yeah. Chewbacca's dissolved. Chewy's trying to eat that fool.
SPEAKER_03:But you already freaking cooked it up. Don't waste it now. Yeah. Hate motherfuckers. You'll go make it dad for nothing. That's what I'm saying. God was food right now. I don't eat leftovers.
SPEAKER_00:Lou wanted to book called Lou and the Porgs, and there's actually marshmallows on the Falcon that Chewie didn't want to eat. And then the Porgs ate them all.
SPEAKER_01:Lou's biggest problem is that Chewy was about to eat that shit without gloves on. No, he was going to go wash his hands in the ocean water afterwards.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03:No, I think you could grab a porg like without having to worry about bloves.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, if you got the pork blades.
SPEAKER_00:No, again, like I said, I watched it like a week or two ago when I was working out in the casita. Not working out, no. I was like, this guy working show off in.
SPEAKER_03:He gonna show you, he's gonna show up all buff and shit when we show up to Disney all fat and sloppy, and Jack's like, check this out.
SPEAKER_00:I heard Jack has an eight pack. T-shirt don't count. But I I don't mind it. I mean, yeah, it's a little because of all the hate that eight got for whatever reason they had to again, like I said, I'm surprised Luke wasn't alive again. Part of it was because Carrie Fisher died, so they couldn't give her character the uh justice, the storyline they wanted to do with it. But there are a lot of really good parts of episode nine, I think. Ray and Kylo fighting on uh the Death Star. I fucking love that whole sequence from beginning to end, right up until Han shows up and he throws his lightsaber in the ocean. Spoiler! Amazing. Because it's easy to do. I guess we should have Well, there's a part where Han comes back. Han's alive.
SPEAKER_01:So Han is alive. Why isn't Luke alive?
SPEAKER_00:What the fuck is going on here? There are a lot of good parts to episode nine. Did it do what it should have done? No. But again, I I just like Star Wars. I will watch all of it. I can agree that it's not all great. But I'll watch anything Star Wars over and over again, except Resistance. Resistance was a one and done, but Yeah, nine. We're not talking about animated series.
SPEAKER_03:Not much hate. Yeah, we'll get to that. That'll be like next week or the week after. Or when it's in my head and I can't get over it because I'm on the spectrum. But either way. Alright, so now we have two minutes. Nine, again, not really hate. Like the stuff you talk about, I liked it too.
SPEAKER_00:There's a lot of good parts to it. It's just it didn't do what it should have done. Yeah. You know, which is wrap all this up in a nice little bow. Okay. You want to do solo first or rogue one? We can do solo.
SPEAKER_03:We're all like rogue one.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody had a political. So that's what I was saying. Let's finish on the high note. Let's talk about solo first.
SPEAKER_03:I'll give you there's still some hate with Rogue One. I'll share it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the trailers. Yep, that's exactly what it is. Talk about not knowing the movie. Talk about not knowing the movie on the way back from Comic-Con.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, that's so funny. That is my hate with Rogue One, is like they fucking lied to us.
unknown:False.
SPEAKER_03:The marketing department was awful. Solo? Jack will tell you, I was pissed when I left the theater after solo. I was just like, what the hell was this garbage? Then I saw it again like four months later, and it was like, this is a pretty good movie.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I was hated L3. He's like, it's feminist woke bullshit.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. And still, and then they brought her ass back for Indiana Jones, and she's the same fucking character.
SPEAKER_01:But until the last 10 minutes when she has a complete change of character.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:It was hot solo.
SPEAKER_03:Again, now I've seen it a few more times since that original I'm pissed at the world version that I saw. It was fine. When that movie, when the trailer first came out, we all knew there were three things we had to figure out, right? How he got the Falcon, how he got Wachui, and the Kessel Run. Those were the only three things they had to put in the movie, and everything else was just bonus. And they put all three things in the movie. And you know, it was more entertaining. It probably did ex-there's no problem. I expected more from it the first time I saw it. And once I just dropped out of that and was like, okay, let's go watch the movie and enjoy the movie for what it is. I did. I enjoyed the movie for what it was, and it was the only hate that I would argue about that is there's no follow-up. What there's gonna be in animated form, but they'll follow up with uh a Darth Maul tease at the end. But again, they're gonna fix that in the future next year with the animated. So yeah, that's I can say now that I can watch solo and not have any issues with it. In the sense of there's no hate that I have. Like, oh my god, here's this scene. No, I'm good. Acceptable, acceptable.
SPEAKER_00:You guys? Solo. I don't think I've heard you say anything bad about solo, D. I don't think I've ever heard you say anything bad about it.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I wish the gang would have stayed together a little bit longer. I wish that that was probably my biggest complaint is I wish they would have fleshed them out a little bit more. Because we meet everybody, you get to know everybody for like, you know, five or ten minutes, and then everyone's dead.
SPEAKER_03:Like that's because that's because Duke is a racist. He wanted the black girl to live.
SPEAKER_01:No, I want a John, I want a John Favreau's character to live, okay? I want that character, I want that character in my life more.
SPEAKER_00:Has Rio Durant's fan club banner he had printed up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's uh, you know, it's had to go from Rio Durant to to uh there you go, to Babu Frick to Neil to life going after this too.
SPEAKER_03:There we go.
SPEAKER_01:There we go. But so that would be my only thing, is I would have liked to have had more background with those characters. Like because I think then it would have made like Woody Harrelson's turn and that type of stuff kind of more impactful. But I also understand too, I mean, these are two completely different movies with put together by two completely different directors who had different motivations for the whole thing. And you can see that watching the movie, who directed what part, right? So I don't I mean, I think uh Alden Adenright got way too much hate for his Han. Like, I mean, what else were they were they gonna just de-age Harrison Ford through the whole movie? Like, yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_00:No, he was Han Solo, he wasn't trying to play Harrison Ford, in my opinion. Right. He was playing Han Solo and perfectly fine at it.
SPEAKER_03:Right. I agree. No issues with his with the factor playing the role.
SPEAKER_01:I I my biggest problem with Solo is like there's so many interesting characters in Solo that I I want to I want to I want to see an animated series with Enfist Nest and that group and how it started and how that character maybe has evolved. Maybe you have three or four episodes of an animated series where each one is a different Enfist Nest changes, right? Yeah, because I was kind of the impression that they gave was that Enfist was a symbol, it wasn't a person necessarily. So we're all in the pirate robbery. Right, exactly. So, you know, that type of thing. Again, I would love to have a young so a young Lando. We have a shit ton of Lando books and everything else, comics and everything out there, legends and not, that are prime for you know Donald Glever to come in and and and take over.
SPEAKER_03:Like a Lando and Hondo's buddy cop series.
SPEAKER_01:I would on bold sign me sign me up. Sign me up and you just have Chewie drop in every once in a while. So I don't I mean, the problems that I had with Solo at the beginning, kind of like you, Lou, I think my expectations were I I think knowing all the background that we did, and I think that's part of it too, is when the original movies came out, we had no background. We had no there were no behind-the-scenes stuff. It was, oh, we just saw the movies for what they were. And even starting with episode one, I mean, we were looking at shit, we were looking at pre-production stuff that they were putting on the internet two years before the movie came out. And so we got so much like we almost got inundated with all of the stuff building up to it, and I feel that that was the same way with solo. I think if you go into solo without knowing, oh hey, like halfway through the directors changed, and here's all the drama, and here's all this and that. Like, I feel like you go into that movie thinking differently, you know. But in hindsight, I don't have a problem with it.
SPEAKER_00:So I agree. My issue with it is there was at one point, I don't know if it was Ron Howard or uh the Lego directors, they're like, Yep, we're gonna find out how Hans Tolo got his name. And I'm like, okay, cool, like his smuggler name, right? No, that motherfucker's last name just made that shit up on the spot. That pissed me the fuck off. But the rest of me, I don't mind.
SPEAKER_01:I'm I'm guess I'm guessing that was uh that was a hey, these guys were gonna do this and make it funny, but we just need to get to this point. Yeah so just have it be this scene.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so that part actually pissed me off. I kind of like but he was by himself.
SPEAKER_03:Also known as Polo. I mean the other shoulders.
SPEAKER_00:We could have just fucking said Skywalker.
SPEAKER_03:That would have worked. That would've worked. The people people would have bought it. He saw their wanted posters and was like I I would have guessed that he was at some kind of space church in the choir, then he stepped out and sung a song by himself. So he performed a solo.
SPEAKER_01:Hon Soprano. So yeah, so that was dumb as hell.
SPEAKER_00:I liked that they sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't. That they use the Imperial March for the uh recruiting video in the train station.
SPEAKER_01:But it's like in in movie, like in movie audio, like yeah, I was like, it's kind of dumb.
SPEAKER_00:But like I hate it and I don't especially since they use it for I mean it's called the Imperial March, but it's fucking Vader's theme. Exactly. Yeah. So if it was used more for Imperial stuff and not just Vader, it would make more sense. Um but no, I liked it. I mean the whole story was good, but yeah, like Lou said, the ending. Darth Wall is like, yep, we're gonna fuck shit up unless this movie bombs later and now we're never gonna find out.
SPEAKER_02:Well, see you in animation. Maybe, hopefully. We'll see. Yeah. So Rogue One. Rogue One.
SPEAKER_00:I mean So you remember on the trailer when Jen was up on that platform where the TIE fighters came at her, and then there was the other one with uh the sun setting and the three TIE fighters flying away and stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Then you've got the running on the beach.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, none of that happened.
SPEAKER_03:How did that happen?
SPEAKER_01:I will say that out of all of the Star Wars movies, Rogue One is the one that I probably have seen the most frequently over the last like five to seven years.
SPEAKER_00:It's a good movie because it's self-contained. It's probably a good movie the same reason episode four is a good movie. It's nice and self-contained. You don't need to know what happened before, you don't need to know what happens after. It's all right there. You could learn more. Oh, yeah. You don't have to.
SPEAKER_03:There's absolutely more there for you, but you don't need it, and you can just be fine. And to Duke's point, I've watched that one more than than the other ones. For me, it's probably the one I've watched the third most. Uh, because I don't always watch one through nine or whatever the case may be. I will watch five by itself, I will watch three by itself. So I would argue that five in order, five, three, rogue one would be like the one through the most of the eleven. It would be I obviously would have seen Empire more than all of them. I'll watch that one just by itself and just be done with it for the week, you know, done with Star Wars for the week. And then every once in a while I'll want to watch episode three, and then Rogue One will come in if it's gonna be. Don't get me wrong, a lot of the times it'll be pick a trilogy and just watch all three of them, pick whatever trilogy. But no, there's a lot of times where it's just watch episode five and then a month later, watch episode three, then a month later, watch rogue one, and then watch five, then three, then five, then three, and then rogue one, then five, then three. No, that's usually how it goes with me. But Jack's not wrong. I'm still irritated about the whole trailer thing.
SPEAKER_00:Well that and Suicide Squad came out around the same time, and the batteries.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's basically I was like, man, this is bullshit.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you, Britton.
SPEAKER_01:But again, I mean, I feel the same way about Rogue One, and we got that with Andor. So we've actually gotten characters that were introduced in Rogue One that we've gotten to see more stories from and more, you know, background and stuff for. So that's awesome. I read some stuff saying they were trying to they there was some conversation about Shoehorning and a bunch of the other Rogue One guys at the end of Andor season two, and I'm really fucking glad they didn't.
SPEAKER_00:Jinn did not have to show up. Yeah, it wasn't called Andor and Jin. That didn't need yeah, it wouldn't even make sense. She had to have a wave of the rebellion. After all, things like how was that fittering?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I didn't I didn't hear about that. Yeah, it was like Lucasfilm. I think I saw something where Tony Gilroy had said that Lucasfilm had came to him in at the beginning when they were developing season two and was basically like, Hey, so how do we get everybody else from Rogue One in here? And he's like, No, we don't because it doesn't fucking make sense. Right.
SPEAKER_03:If it if it would have made sense, sure. Right. But totally makes sense, right?
SPEAKER_01:You had to bring in K.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he was with him.
SPEAKER_03:He was with him in the movie, so you had to figure out how he got him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So that type of stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, honestly, the only thing I would have been okay shoeing horning in would be um Baz and uh fucking Donny Yin. Baze and Turret. Yeah, so we could have been on Jeddah and seen like some of that shit going on.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. It had to have been relevant to the story, though. If it wasn't relevant to the story, like and I don't mean the Rogue One story, it needd be relevant to the Andor.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and also because they didn't care about Jeddah until then. Yeah, even once they were done with um fucking uh what's his face? Forrest Whitaker. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I guess Saw was. Oh my yeah. Saw Yeah, I mean even Saw, like I think got the short shift during uh during Andor. Like that's it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They're like, here's Saw, here's what he's doing, and now we're doing the other rebel stuff. Hey, drugs. And then like after the drug scene, he's literally not in any Yeah. He gets he gets Homeboy High and then he fucking bails.
SPEAKER_03:And it do and it helps explain why he is how he is in Rogue One, so yay.
SPEAKER_01:But I don't know why we had to get Homeboy high, because that didn't they didn't explain like like that that's a but it's a minor we all have that black friend that gets you high and fucking bails on. True. Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_00:Mine is Jack.
SPEAKER_01:So will rebuke, so is yours. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yep.
SPEAKER_00:High on life.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But no, Star Wars is amazing. I will watch any of it any day. I don't get it.
SPEAKER_01:Except for resistance. Except for resistance.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:There were some good episodes of it. I don't hate all the characters, but I had did have to force myself to get to a point where I didn't.
SPEAKER_03:I just had still been past episode seven or eight or whatever it was of resistance. I was like, I'm over it.
SPEAKER_01:I can't. Just read the summary. Watch the five-minute summary on Disney Plus.
SPEAKER_03:You know what? I was gonna say, was there one? Because I'm gonna go see if Ryan Ary or New Rock Stars or somebody else did one of just a summary on YouTube and just watch that. Because like I said, I was just struggling to get through the eight episodes that I could get through.
SPEAKER_00:It was brutal. Once Feloney said, Oh, I can do Clone Wars by Resistance, they should have been like, not resistance is done. We're out. We've tied it up.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, again, it introduced some cool ideas. I think the idea of like following people who are doing like the racing and that type of thing was pretty cool. But wrapping it around like this guy who's like annoying.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Spy.
unknown:Spy.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, it's I I started watching 28 Years Later. If either of you guys watch 28 Years Later. Oh, the new one's on streaming? Uh, I think it's paid right now.
SPEAKER_03:So damn, that's been out forever. How is that? How is like Fantastic Four and all this other shit out on streaming? And that one isn't.
SPEAKER_00:Shit, I'm getting Fantastic Four and Blu-ray on Tuesday.
SPEAKER_01:See, see, uh it's on Netflix, I guess. It's on Netflix. It's on Netflix 28 years later, isn't it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_01:I'm having a really hard time getting through it. Really? Which really sucks because 28 Days Later is one of my I love 28 Days Later. I'm having a hard time because again, the the tropes that we've talked about that are always frustrating in movies. And I bet I bet you I'm gonna put this out right now. On today, what's today? October 25th. October 2525. When Lou watches this movie, he's gonna know exactly what I'm talking about. Um right now on the Humble Bundle, they actually have the Star Wars novels, and I think they're all the post Um the post Legends ones. So you can get sixteen books for$18, which is not a bad deal. What's that bad of a deal? Shadow of the Sith, Catalyst, Aftermath, Brotherhood, Bloodline, Last Shot, Resistance Reborn, uh, Aftermath, Empire's End, Aftermath, Life Death, Lords of the Sith, Phasma, Here to the Jedi, Hair to the Jedi, Battlefront Twilight Company, Rise of the Red Blade, Mace Windu, and the Princess and the Scoundrel.
SPEAKER_00:Um, somebody that's read most of those, that is a good deal. The aftermath books are like You gotta get through Chuck Wendig's writing. His writing is they bring in good ideas, it introduces Cobb Vance, Mr. Bones, who is up in the casita. There are a lot of good things in those, but his writing style fucking kills. I was gonna say Chuck Wendig's writing is horrible. He's the author. And you know how those uh those new rappers they go da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da that's how he writes. But a lot of those other books are very good. Lap Shout was good, that's um Lando, and he has an Ewok hacker, which is funny as hell because she still speaks Ewok ease. She's like trying to help him hack shit. That's where Kylo gets his gun from that he has in uh episode nine when they finally get around to making it. Did I read Prince and Scoundrel? I don't know if I read that one. But because they kept giving us autograph copies at Comic-Con for a few years, I've read a ton of them. I'm reading the main. Yeah, I don't think I've read that one yet. Air to the Jedi was good. The one about when everybody finds out that Vader was Leia's dad, and all the shit hits the fan because of that. That one was pretty good.
SPEAKER_01:Is that the Lords of the Sith? No.
SPEAKER_00:That one.
SPEAKER_02:Did I read that one?
SPEAKER_03:Wasn't it wasn't it Bloodlines?
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:There you go.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think it was Bloodlines.
SPEAKER_01:Brotherhood. Looks like a young Obi-Wan and uh Anakin book.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, that one was good.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Shadow with a Sith. Looks like it's uh Luke and somebody.
SPEAKER_00:That one is Luke and Lando when they go looking for Ochi and the Sith um Wayfinder. Uh Catalyst, I think Catalyst is good, right?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Wrote one novel. Yes, that one was good.
SPEAKER_02:That one was really good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was. Then that's more um like how Crinic came to power and everything. Yeah. And started hooking up with um with Galen. Exactly. Yeah. All the flashbacks on the rogue war. Yeah, that's where those are.
SPEAKER_03:That's where those come from in that book. And holy shit, that was well done.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was a good book. So that is a good deal. If you're looking to read Star Wars books, yeah, jump on. No argument there. Okay. And then you can learn canon instead of holding back on legends. Learn the real shit, not that fake shit. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:So as we start to wrap this up, we're gonna bring something back because I had an opportunity to do something this weekend. That was white people shit.
SPEAKER_01:All shit. Damn, lose white people shit. And next week we're gonna talk about positive things.
SPEAKER_03:Next week we're gonna talk about how you see put a stomping on Notre Dame. That's what we're gonna talk about.
SPEAKER_00:Shit. You wait. I'm gonna have to be in the middle on the screen next week.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So you guys can't throw shit at each other.
SPEAKER_03:Oh man. But so so yesterday, uh, first of all, I had a symphony on Thursday, but I I was just so not in the mood. And it was opening, it was downtown Denver, and it was opening night uh home opener for the Avalanche, and it was like the more and more I was like, I you know, for the$20 ticket, I am fine losing it. It was uh the symphony with uh David Bowie music. So it was like eh.
SPEAKER_00:It wouldn't have been horrible, but it's not worth fighting that traffic.
SPEAKER_03:Right, exactly. Yeah, so but I knew it was no big deal because I had one Saturday. So yesterday it was Cirque Cinema uh with Troop, Vertigo, whatever the hell it was. So I I didn't really pay attention to it. It was more for for uh for the girl because she's all into that type of stuff. Uh, and I was like, all right, I'll go. Uh when we got ticket sale five months ago. And it was badass. Okay, so first of all, the cert cinema part was all the music was from theater, movies, shows, whatever the case may be. Turns out they had Imperial March Ray's theme, uh, the Rogue One theme, and John Williams stuff, the Jaws theme, the Lois and Superman Love theme, you know, Superman. It was like, okay, that's it. I think those five for I can't remember if there's another one, but at least those five from John Williams was in it, so that was pretty badass. But while they were playing, they had the cert troop doing their thing. It was like six or seven of them. I want to say six, one like contortionist, and then the girls who hang from like the ceiling and stuff and spin around and do all that and wrap themselves. Oh, was it theme to the songs? Yes. It was like like when they got to some of the Star Wars stuff, they were out like what like when they did Imperial March, the contortionist was in a black and silver type stuff, and she was shooting, she was doing flexible bending, shooting a bow and arrow at a character dressed as Ray. It was just like okay. And they timed it very well with everything, like so when they ended when the song ended, uh, and it was my god, it was so cool. So they had the contortionists, they had the the people who hang around up in the ceiling and spin around, that big wheel thing where the guy kind of spins around and rotates. The best, my favorite, was the dude who was doing a balancing act. So he's on a table, like three feet off the ground, and then on the table, he's got like the cylinders and like the board, like the wake board you have to stand on and balance yourself on that. Well, the cylinder was on another cylinder, and he was on the board on top of that, and he was juggling and all this type of shit. It was so cool, and then he put a second set that he was balancing on, and then finally a third set, and no failure. He completely knocked it out of the ballpark. It was just like, are you kidding me? It was I was so impressed. Front row seats. I was literally in right, I was sitting there touching the lady had to come over and tell me not to touch the stage like twice. Uh, because I was too close. Just kind of getting comfortable, but uh, it was ma'am.
SPEAKER_00:You played the Imperial March and I got a boner.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I'm saying. What am I supposed to do? It's not my fault. It's like I can't man, put put somebody's ugly grandma up there, and then fine, it'll go away.
SPEAKER_01:Well, maybe we all know Lou loves grandmas, so I was gonna say, guilt guilt started.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, so so it was you know, two hours with a 20 minute 20-minute intermission. Uh uh again, symphonic music throughout the whole thing, five John Williams songs. It it it was at least five John Williams songs. It was very well done. Oh, wait, six, eighteen. That was one of them too. But but yeah, the troupe was great. They did a great job with their acrobatics and everything. Music is always good at the symphony, and it was a long day because that's how the day ended. Yesterday started at the Great American Beer Festival. So it was four hours of here's your cup, go try a thousand different beers, have fun. And man, I think I only tried 20 of the thousand. It was crazy, but it was awesome. Had a great yeah, for real. Had a great my first time doing it. I had I've heard about it forever. Oh my god, it it was it was happening. So that started like at noon, ended at about five, went to dinner till about six fifteen, and then went and relaxed and chilled in the car. Girls watching the Texas Tech game. I'm watching the USC game that we're able to watch till halftime until it's time to go to the show. So, yeah, white people shit all around. And I do mean white people shit because that Great American Beer Festival, I counted six black people. There's probably several thousand people there, and I counted six. Working it or attending it? Attending. I didn't see but two working it. The same brothers in one booth. Man, they should have just named it Negro Brewery, but it was it was It was a watermelon beer. Dude, I had the watermelon beer. It was so good.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not even kidding.
SPEAKER_03:It was like, you know what though? Old girl puts what he pointed out. He's like, hey, there's watermelon beer over there. You might like it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm like, oh fuck you. But I did like that. But you're right, let's go.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, which is way wrong. It was yummy. Uh it really was. Like, I would, I would, I would buy a six-pack of that watermelon beer. It was it was really good. But yeah, and then and then in between that, like in like in between beers, like towards that last hour, uh uh they did a what's it called? The I don't I can't remember what it's called, the quiet disco or something, soundless. You had headphones.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't for sure the name for it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Uh it's a silent dance party or something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, exactly. And it was disco for this one. And she's like, Oh, I was like, You want to try? Like, yeah, I'm like, all right. So we go over, she's listening to one. There's three different stations. She's listening to one, I'm listening to one. We're not listening to the same one. After her first song is done, she switches to my station, which is basically a black soul disco station. And it was like me, her, like eight other people around us, bro. Listen to the same thing, get into it. Oh my god, it was it was so fun. Yeah, I loved it. I'm all singing it, doing my old Prince thing when Prince came on, even though Prince uh they played Kiss, and it was like, all right, but damn, talk about random man. My my my legs at 50 trying to dance ain't the same as my legs at 25 trying to dance. My hips, my hips. Lord have mercy. Ah, sweating all pouring down. I was like, I feel bad, whoever's getting these headphones uh back from me. Uh, because they're kind of like Jack's headphones that he has on. Uh and it was like, don't be wrong, they have the wipes, they're wiping them down. But I'm telling you, my shit was just I'm like, afterwards, a girl's looking at me and she's like, Do you need to sit down? I'm like, Yep.
SPEAKER_02:It's like my heart's racing. No, I'm hot's racing. It's like, whoa, big Elizabeth, coming to see you.
SPEAKER_03:I ain't gonna lie. I was like watching these people and they look like idiots, and I went and joined them. I was like, you know what? Let's give it a shot. I would do it again.
SPEAKER_00:That's why I don't do it on the Disney cruise. I've walked by, I'm like, I look stupid as fuck.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, next time I'm gonna put yourself on the deck. Jump on, jump on it. Just just just have fun after fool. Because I tell you what, there were again, a bunch of white people, and their dancing skills. I probably shouldn't use the word. I probably shouldn't use the word skills when discussing the dancing. But either way.
SPEAKER_00:But you don't know that they're off rhythm because you can't hear their music. They're off something. I mean, no matter what, it shouldn't look like they're having a seizure. I'm just saying. Then they were listening to the Humpty Dance. It's supposed to look like a fitter, a commotion.
SPEAKER_01:Lou, I got one for you. Gotta say, I can't help but pay attention to the protesting frogs in Portland. The story is so riveting.
SPEAKER_03:Look, I understand some of you aren't gonna like that joke. You're gonna be hopping mad, but it's okay. Also But yeah, but we gotta talk about Notre Dame USC, so we can watch that one Saturday.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. That's at 4 30. Uh
SPEAKER_03:Time. Yeah, 5 30 mine. Yeah. That'll be a fun one. Jack can jump in on that one unless you have Saturday night.
SPEAKER_00:That might be that should be doable.
SPEAKER_03:I know college ain't your jam, but still.
SPEAKER_02:Hanging out with my friends is. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Rooting and hating for both of us.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, boys, I gotta go blow my nose.
SPEAKER_03:Jack's been talking shit the whole time.
SPEAKER_01:I've been trying so hard not to sneeze for like the last 20 minutes. Boys, it's been fun. Good pod. Glad we were able to get back into the pocket.
SPEAKER_03:Hour 37. Didn't you feel like it?
SPEAKER_01:I know. That's cut a whole bunch of shit out. After it cuts out all the ums and ahs, it'll be 22 minutes. Yeah, it will. The usual.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, we should be back next week. Nobody needs to be getting sick no more. Yeah, we gotta talk about all the mad shit we talked about.
SPEAKER_03:So don't don't you guys, our fans, want to know what happened between USC and Notre Dame? Which one of us is talking most shit on TV? Yeah, you'll know which one of us, because we're we're gonna bring it up.
SPEAKER_01:And what Lou and what what Lou thinks of the end of the the uh Peacemaker series? Oh yeah, we'll talk about that too.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:So every time we're saying Ven channel. Nice. Yeah, as nobody else has done that.
