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Disneyland Runs And May The 4th Shopping Chaos

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The most chaotic part of being a Star Wars fan isn’t the Sith, it’s the checkout button. We go from a laid-back Disneyland weekend to the full-on mess of Star Wars Celebration 2027 tickets, and we don’t hold back about why the process frustrates so many people. We talk Readpop, the Qit queue, missing wait-time transparency, confusing checkout steps, and the way high purchase limits feed the reseller ecosystem. We also push back on the internet’s favorite coping story and explain why “it was all scalpers” doesn’t match how these limited ticket drops actually work. 

On the happier side of fandom, we swap notes on doing Disneyland as passholders when rides aren’t the priority, then dive into Galaxy’s Edge shopping, Oga’s Cantina’s DJ Rex mug, and the kind of souvenirs that look amazing until you remember you have to clean them. May the 4th gets its own spending confession booth too, with LEGO Star Wars rewards, Disney Store exclusives, Roosevelt shirts selling out in-cart, and the never-ending hunt for the “right” collectible. 

We also hit the screen stuff that’s keeping us excited: early IMAX footage from The Mandalorian and Grogu, plus big reactions to the Maul finale and what makes Vader feel genuinely terrifying again. We close out with love for Daredevil’s finale and a quick look at the upcoming movie slate, including a Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick double feature plan. If you’ve ever battled a ticket queue, chased a merch drop, or just want to nerd out with us, hit subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave a review so more fans can find it.

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Intro music by Alex Grohl

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Cold Open And Friend Roasting

SPEAKER_07

One. Yes, it goes with the story. Oh! Oh wait, hang on. My closet's open. All my secrets are being exposed. I see dude wipes. Ah keeping them balls clean. Yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_08

All about keeping them balls.

SPEAKER_01

What's wrong with some basic ass wipes that are$3 from mom?

SPEAKER_08

Um, I'm booty. It wasn't the ass wipes, it was the 30-inch spiked black dildo.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one from Seven that also looks like the Sith Lightsaber that you posted in chat. Details. That was like the first thing I thought of. I was like, that guy's just like ah.

SPEAKER_04

Is she dead?

SPEAKER_05

Oh how are you guys doing? So good. Good.

SPEAKER_01

Like I just I woke up from a nap. I'm still tired.

SPEAKER_05

I just got back from Disneyland. I was gonna say, Jack's great. He had a great Disney weekend. Alright, R2. I mean, great. That was you know what?

SPEAKER_08

It's it's weird when you are a pass holder and you go as often as we do. Because you can count like the number of rides we went on, I think on one hand, probably. Because it's not a big thing. All that stuff is still and we actually had that discussion with my little one because uh my wife's not all the way recovered from her knee surgery, right? So like stepping down into like the the Space Mountain rockets and stuff, stepping out of some of the rides, she's not comfortable with. And my little one's like, why would you come to Disneyland and not go on the rides? I'm like, there's like 35 different ways to do Disneyland. You can people watch, you can eat, you can shop, you can go on rides, you can watch shows, character meet and greets, you can do a million different things, and it's still a good trip to Disneyland. So I mean that's kind of what we did. We didn't leave until Saturday morning, only 10 minutes late. We said 7, we were in the car at 710.

SPEAKER_07

The whole I know what's going on here on it. It was weird.

SPEAKER_01

Um April next year, goddammit.

SPEAKER_07

Right? Or December. Save it for December. Right.

SPEAKER_08

Um, so we got there about noon-ish. Because we checked into the room first, too. So we got there about noon.

SPEAKER_05

Um hungry. So we had to eat first. I don't even remember what we ate. I was so hungry. What did we eat? Like like at Disneyland eight or ate before you got there? Yeah, no, at Disneyland 8. Okay. Oh, we went to DCA. And we ate. I don't even know. I know after we ate, we went to go get the cheesecake. It was like a cinnamon roll cheesecake. What did we eat first? Oh, we went to um Splitzville in downtown Disney. That was pretty good.

SPEAKER_08

We tried last time we were there? Yes, the bowling alley across from the Lego store. New, right? Newish. Yeah, it's been there since like the it was one of the first things they put in when um they did the downtown Disney remodel. But we tried it last time we were there. Wife liked it, so we went back. Um it's like a it it's literally a bowling alley. But it's also a restaurant, so like we they have burgers and pizza, sushi.

SPEAKER_05

So I mean they got a little bit of everything. Yeah, yeah, they do. Um then we went on Radiator Racers. We did Soarin, because it's still soaring over California for now. Um Dang, do we doing it?

SPEAKER_01

And it still will be in three weeks, right?

SPEAKER_08

Yes, because that one is staying soaring, California just a bit longer than Florida. Because Florida is actually changing to Soren over America while we're there after we get off the cruise when we do our Disney trip. But this one I think is staying until shit, maybe even July 4th. Through the end of the year or whatever. So it'll be different than you've seen it before. I don't think you've been on Soren Over California before.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, not that I recall. Like maybe like when I was a kid and went there that I don't remember anything other than a light parade.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, bro, that shit was that's only DC has only been there 25 years.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well in that case, yeah. Unless you were a kid at 25. Nah, I went I uh according to my parents, we went a couple times when I was younger. Only I remember from that is a light parade. Electrical like light light parade. That's all I that's all I remember from that.

SPEAKER_00

Um shit, that might have been.

SPEAKER_01

I remember more all the Magic Mountain trips more than I do the Disneyland trip.

SPEAKER_00

Well, like I said, I was probably six or seven I was probably six or seven.

SPEAKER_08

Right? Um shit, that might have been all we did. I don't remember any other rides over there.

SPEAKER_05

And then we snuck over to Disneyland. Um we did Hyperspace Mountain. We did shit, was that all we did?

SPEAKER_08

Like I said, it was not a lot of rides. It was just like shopping and just like fucking around.

SPEAKER_05

We did miss the Bluey show, but little one was sad about that. Next time. She'll live.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. Well I told her, I said, when we go Blue. No, it's just the timing. We were like fucking around over at DCA too long, and then there weren't any more shows later. And then uh super early.

SPEAKER_07

No, I think the last show went at like 4, 3.30. Oh, okay. No, 400. I mean, they ended early based on the time that the park closes. I guess. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I told her, I'm like, when we come with Lou, um, his girl wants to watch Bluey, I'm sure. So if Lou doesn't want to watch Bluey, shit, that might be on his list.

SPEAKER_01

I'll just say, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's her. She's the one who wants to watch Blue.

SPEAKER_07

But yeah, Uncle Lou's just looking out for her.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. So I'm like, we'll watch Bluey next time. It'll still be there. So um. Today we did Rise and Star Tours. And we bailed fairly early. I think we were out of there at like one. What'd you get used to?

SPEAKER_01

Did you get your ID?

SPEAKER_08

No, because that shit was still an hour away, even with two um two booths. And they were like, oh, it's not that long. I only waited an hour. I'm like, an hour to spend$15. Now, if it's an hour to spend$15 and I can buy all four of them, maybe. Or because you're a pass holder, it's 50% off. Or I don't know. I don't know if it's like one picture per or what, but I'm like, if I'm gonna wait that long, you could say six, give me all four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So I don't know. I I don't know. But I wasn't gonna wait an hour to find out.

SPEAKER_01

All four, there's like six, aren't there?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, even still. Whatever. I need to be able to get all of them if I'm gonna wait an hour.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I want to be able to get all the ones I want to get in.

SPEAKER_05

All the money and get every single one. Yep. Um, but yeah, it was mostly. I'm surprised you didn't just go to the front of the line because there's got to be staff there, right? There was.

SPEAKER_08

It's because it's inside the store. Um, but that wasn't on my mind to ask.

SPEAKER_05

I'm like, eh.

SPEAKER_08

I mean we had just gotten there. I think we went there right after we ate. So I was like, meh. Because we went over to the the D-lander to look at Pandora and stuff. But she didn't buy anything.

SPEAKER_01

Is that photo booth a permanent thing? The ID booth?

SPEAKER_08

I assume it's brand new. I don't know if they're just keeping it for May. I mean, if people are waiting an hour, yeah, it's gonna be as permanent as no reason for them not to do.

SPEAKER_07

Not or there's no reason for them to it's uh box it up and put it away.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I mean if it's making them money, shit. I don't see why it would go away.

SPEAKER_05

Now when you're here and we go, I'm like, yeah, I'll go.

SPEAKER_08

Because you don't go as often as I do, so I can be wishy-washy about it.

Galaxy’s Edge Hauls And Oga’s Mug

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I think I'm with you though. I don't know if I want to wait an hour if I can only get one of the three that I want.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, exactly. So I I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'll ask next time I see somebody post about it. Um but yeah, no, it was mostly buying shit, dude. It was a shopping trap. Hundred percent. Because um they have Mandalorian and Grogu of these dudes now. So I wanted to make sure I got those. I didn't unpack shit though, so I don't have I don't have anything for show and tell.

SPEAKER_07

Next week, when I'm not around, you can do show and tell.

unknown

What?

SPEAKER_07

Where are you going? Is that part of your story you have to tell us? No, no, no. I'll be at uh EDC next weekend EDC.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_07

So I'll be in your neck of the woods, but be busy.

SPEAKER_01

Right, so god damn, I got here fast.

SPEAKER_08

I know, didn't it?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

So um but yeah, no, it's just it was really just a shopping trip for me. We bought way too many pins. Big ones happy though. Which we'll have a lot of good traders for when we go to Florida. Um, and then I got all the popcorn buckets, everything that was on the list, I got it. I got the sale bars, you demand protocol head, cups, whizzle steps, and cups, cups everywhere. The Bantha's adorable. I might end up getting him. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01

That Bantha with them lips, bro. I had so many jokes. I was like, I was like, nah, I'ma keep him on my.

SPEAKER_08

But it's cool when you flip his straw up, that's when he makes his bantha noises. I was like, oh, because I took it apart. I'm like, how does this work? Where's his button at? And so I was messing with it, and I flip the straw up, and that's when he does his little bantha moan. And I think there's another one he like stomps his feet or something. Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I might have to I might have to have you get me that.

SPEAKER_08

It's it's kind of cool. I can't figure out how to open it up to put drink in it, but I mean I guess that's a moot point, because who's doing that?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, because then you gotta wash it. Yeah, then you gotta figure out how to open it to wash it. And none of those none of those shits are ever made for you to be able to wash them out appropriately. No. Because there's batteries. Yeah, there's electronics.

SPEAKER_01

Did you end up getting uh the barge for yourself?

SPEAKER_08

No, no. I I like it. I just I don't know if I like it that much. It is really cool, especially with the light up. But I I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. I would get the Bantha over the barge.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. The light up was cool. I was not expecting that. When you sent that pick, I was like, whoa. Holy hell, that's cool.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, but uh, I would get the Bantha over the barge.

SPEAKER_05

I already have Jabba, what do I need this barge for? Put him in it.

SPEAKER_08

Right. And then we also went to Oga's this morning, uh, because they have the DJ Rex mug, which is dope as hell.

SPEAKER_01

I was about to ask about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, like on the side, it's like a tiki kind of mug, right? So on the side there's like a little loaf cat, and then the wart is on the other side, and all the uh IG droid uh beer taps are on there too. It's really cool. The drink, shit, it's um the first ingredient is bourbon. But it's cold brewing. Bourbon, right? Coffee liqueur and cold brew. I was like, can I just buy the mug? No. Can I get something else in it? No. I'm like.

SPEAKER_07

Can I just leave the cup on the counter and then you could just give me the other one? Okay.

SPEAKER_08

But you're like, fuck that. I'm drinking this. Yeah, I was like, fuck that. And it actually wasn't horrible for a coffee drink. I drank one and a half of them. And I didn't even ship my pants. I got a nice buzz, and I didn't ship my pants. So it was a win.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, it's still early.

SPEAKER_01

I'll be like, can you can you put the give me the cup separately, put the coffee in to go cup so I can give it to somebody else. Like, hey, any patrons in here? No, no, no, not leave. Just just it a walk around. Like, hey, do you like coffee? I can't.

SPEAKER_08

Since you share tails, just slide it. Like, there you go. Oh, there, that's theirs. But yes, bring me my clean cups. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

They didn't they didn't give you a separate cup? They'd always give you a clean box.

SPEAKER_08

They give you the wrapped-up one. Yeah. Well, they still didn't. They brought all three over in a box and a bag, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Was the drink that you had in that cup as well, or was it a separate cup?

SPEAKER_08

No, he they have like their kitchen supply, then they have the go-home supply. Yeah, no, you got the bigger one.

SPEAKER_01

But the kitchen supply is that tiki cup, though, right?

SPEAKER_08

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. It's the same cup. You just don't take that one home. They just watch it.

SPEAKER_07

Didn't we have that conversation with the Endor Cup when we were there? We were like, is this the one we get? And they're like, no, no, no, we bring you out a fresh one.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And we take that one away. And we were like, oh, thank God. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

So overall, it wasn't bad. We got back home around five. Nice. Oh wow. So we jumped in the pool for a little bit. Watch some hockey from the hot tub. I heard triple digits. Is it already?

SPEAKER_08

Um microphone just said it was ninety-nine, but it's very possible it's the 100. I think it was like a 100 yesterday.

SPEAKER_07

Uh let's see. The next seven days. Monday 104, Tuesday 104, Wednesday 10% chance of rain, 94. Thursday, 89, Friday 92, Saturday, 99, and Sunday 97. You know what? For my trip there, I will take no triple digits for all five days that I'll be there. Like, I'm I'm good with that. Like, you keep it below 99, I'm a happy camper. Actually, since you'll be busy, I'll be busy too. We're gonna go see no doubt at the sphere on Saturday. Nice. Nice. I will, you know what? Well let's circle up when I get into town um and see maybe we can we can meet up for something. I'll be at uh I'll be at the Virgin Hotel. So I don't know how that works for you first. Okay Yeah, we'll see. At least at least uh we could dab it up a bit.

SPEAKER_05

Dap it up. Uh yeah, no, that was my weekend. Nice. All kinds of fun.

SPEAKER_07

Uh yeah, uh so I went so Roseburg is a as a town that's in southern Oregon. I went and did some wine tasting there. I had a friend who was at a conference down there, and they were like, Do you want to come down for the weekend? I said, I got nothing going on, sure. Uh so we went and did a bunch of wine tasting, and the last place that we went to was um it was a place called uh it's like it's like you s it's not spelled it's like the French spelling, but it's like Russell, but it's like R-U-E-S-E-L-E type of thing. Yeah, but they actually have like a wine cave. So we went into the wine cave, we're doing our tasting, and the girl who was helping us, I was like, are we like actually in the hill right now, or is this one of those like you have the experience of being like in the under the under the ground, but you're like still like external, right? That they she's like, no, no, no. They like went like a hundred feet into this hill and built this thing here. And she goes, by the way, the company that designed this, it's gonna blow your mind. The company that designed this, same company that did Indiana Jones at Disneyland. And I was like, Oh shit. I was like, that's fucking awesome. I was like, are you serious? And she said, Yeah, it was the same, the same stone like masonry work uh that that uh that did it. And I was like, she was like, that ride at Disneyland, I cannot remember the name of it. And I was like, What do what would it what has a lot of I go, Indiana Jones? She goes, Yeah, and I go, and the Temple of Forbidden Eye, yeah, that's it. And I was like, oh shit. I'm like, I I got people I can tell about that. I got a story to tell now. So I posted a bunch of pictures in the chat of the different stone, and I was like, if you look at it, you're like, Yep, I could totally see that being Indiana Jones. Like, yeah. So um, yeah, it was pretty it was pretty awesome. That that was definitely a highlight of the day because I was just like sweet. Like, and it was a random poll. It's not like I had a star. I had my I had my my um Rip City Roosevelt's on, so it wasn't like I had like a Star Wars shirt on or anything that was like hey, be nerdy. Yeah, yeah, talk nerdy to me, huh? Um but yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So the wineries were thinking that I'm like you you came up with the exit oh, the full name too.

SPEAKER_07

Indiana Jones and I was like, damn, son.

SPEAKER_08

Boom for the world's greatest treasure, but I'm over here on the boat.

SPEAKER_07

Jungle Cruise. I love Jungle Cruise so much. Uh Jungle Cruise is definitely in my top. We'll have to after after Star Wars month, we'll have to do a top five Disney rides again. Right. We'll have to after you guys get back. After you guys get back from your trip in June. That'll be good. Then we fresh and lose mine, he won't forget shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because I'm all like, I don't know. The one that you sit down and you move. That one.

SPEAKER_08

And you have to pull the yellow tab. You remember that one? That one was dope as fuck.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, that was so cool. You've now narrowed it down to safe and everything.

SPEAKER_07

You've you've narrowed it down to four rides.

SPEAKER_08

Oh shit, what was it? We were on uh I think it was cars. So we get to the seatbelt check, and little ones pulling the tab. Big one's like, so he checked, right? And my oldest daughter said to her, she's like, you don't have to pull it anymore. He rolled over, he turned around already. I'm like, Thomas Hodge brothers work.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. And they were both like, what? I was like, what? Nothing. I'll be here all week.

SPEAKER_06

Don't forget to tip your father. Whoa, wait a second. Not after that joke.

SPEAKER_03

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_05

Now you're starting to sound like dude.

Allergies And Convention Life Admin

SPEAKER_07

Oh shit. How about you, Lou? How was your weekend?

SPEAKER_01

My weekend, I didn't do a damn thing. I've had these allergies bugging me for about two weeks now. Um You know what? In my head, I don't sound alright. Uh dude, you sound fine. Um, feeling now, which is why the which is why that whole I was like when we started this, I was like, I'm tired. I woke up from a nap. Because there's been a lot of sleeping. You know, take allergy meds, knock out. Take allergy meds. Overall, though, I don't, it's weird. I don't feel all that bad. Um, I feel a little stuffy, I feel a little runny nose here and there. Um, but no real like headache and stuff like that. Uh last week I had the sinus thing. That area here was just so bad. But but overall, man, I was like, no, I stayed in, I played my games, I watched a shit ton of YouTube, uh, Star Trek, and then like, but it was like every three hours I was passing out. But I was only passing out for like an hour, hour and a half. You know, it wasn't like, oh, let me go sleep for three, four hours. No, not at all. It was just like, I'm watching this, I fell asleep at two, I wake up, it's 3 15, you know, one of those types of things.

SPEAKER_08

Right.

SPEAKER_01

So, so the only thing I I was getting together was like trying to figure out where I where I stayed uh 20 years ago in LA for the Star Wars convention. I couldn't find it.

SPEAKER_05

Uh and then uh started looking into it was something to do with with con as well.

SPEAKER_01

It was like, you know, because I've got Denver Con in two weeks. And then a week after that is Disney, so um but I was looking for something. It wasn't nothing nothing anything important. It was just like, oh, this is on my mind. Let me just go look this up. Right. One of those type of things. But I did get my uh uh my parking registration done for STCC. So I mean it wasn't like it was an unproductive weekend. I just I couldn't tell you if I left I couldn't tell you if I opened yes, I was gonna say if I opened the door. Like to to my plane. I was like, wait, I did laundry last night at one in the morning. So yes, I that was the only time I went out since like Thursday. But I still feel it like you like like apologize that y'all hear me hear me sniffling here, uh Y'all watching and everything, but yeah, that's just an allergy issue. And oh man.

SPEAKER_07

And that allergy is cocaine.

SPEAKER_08

He wouldn't be stuffy if he was doing coke. That's true. That's true. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_01

Although I got, you know, I I go to I go to I go to Sam's club. I got them plastic donuts and them cocaine donuts, so you never know. So I could actually ate a donut and been like come back up with all powder on my face. So guys, what are we gonna talk about tonight? It's like what's going on? Hey everybody, how you doing? It's great. How great.

SPEAKER_07

Man.

SPEAKER_01

That's great. Look at look at a dog on a shirt. I like dogs.

Star Wars Celebration Ticket Queue Chaos

SPEAKER_07

It's incredible to me how many people that how many people didn't know that Reed was fucking bullshit before last week, though. I mean, we talked about that shit fucking 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_01

Hold on. Are we are we ready to jump into Star Wars time?

SPEAKER_07

The amount of butt hurt.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Lynk, so Duke, explain to them what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_07

So Wednesday. Oh my goodness. Wednesday. Wednesday. Well, no, I'm gonna I was gonna go back a little bit more. So it's probably been 15 years, maybe 18 years. A company called Readpop took over running Star Wars Celebration, pre- the Star Wars Celebrations. Previous to that, it was all Lucasfilm, it was all internal. They they had their own convention staff that ran everything. Then Readpop came in, and Readpop had we're we're doing a few other uh ones around. I think they do like C2 E2? C2 E2. Is that the that's the Chicago one, right? Yeah. Um, and I think they do um they do New York Comic-Con. New York Comic. Yeah, they do it. There's there's a few big profile ones that they do. And in my experience, working with them through my volunteering, and then just in general as an attendee, they are fucking ass. They never learn from their mistakes, they've never improved anything at all, as far as I'm concerned. They're the same bullshit company that they were 15 years ago, and they've never changed. Like every single time there's a celebration, it it's just a fucking hassle and a half, right? Um it's like they looked at San Diego Comic-Con and said, Hold my beer, as far as shitty, shitty ways to run things. So this past Wednesday, right? Wednesday, uh, Wednesday morning at noon, Star Wars celebration 2027 tickets went on sale, which is happening in April of 2027. Um in LA. Uh, not Anaheim, which is, I mean, it'll be interesting to see how much space they actually take and why they they didn't have enough room or why they didn't pick Anaheim, because they've they've done Anaheim the last two that they've been in California, the West Coast ones.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, West Coast, because they had Chicago. It was Anaheim, Chicago, and then Anaheim again.

SPEAKER_05

Um, so um tickets went on sale at noon.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Uh Jack posted a link that he had gotten through email. Lou and I did not receive emails. Uh shit off the Facebook. Oh, is that okay? So that wasn't even yours. That was somebody else's. Um what we uh what we surmised now is that that link was basically just like get populating all of those fields. Like the token was populating the fields when you got to like the name and the address and stuff. Um so um hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_01

Because that link was quote unquote available also before the sale at noon. If you've tried to log in and went to buy tickets, that the buy the buy tickets on the main page became available at like 10 till 5 till noon, but it took you to the same queue we were already in. Yeah. So it wasn't just the email, you could do it from their page.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. But the token page, the token link. Well, I don't think the top I don't think the token actually played a part in how slow some of the connections were. So there were eight of us, nine of us total trying to get on the from our group, right? Because it was one, two, it was all of us, it was multiple devices, and then there were four or five people weren't even in our group that were uh all of us logged in at the exact same time, all clicked on the links to buy tickets.

SPEAKER_01

It was probably of the twenty of the twenty-one of us that needed tickets, I would say at least 15 were in the queue.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Um, and they have a they have a program they use called Qit that basically dumps you into a queue that is kind of our it seems arbitrary, right? I mean, again, it's you're you're in the number of the queue, but it does seem kind of arbitrary as far as like how things work, right? Everybody clicks on the link at the same time. So uh we all logged in at the around the same time. We all were sitting on the same screen. Basically, they have a little green man shows up on the screen and works his way across, uh, leaving little green poop pellets behind him as he uh as you progress further into the queue. Uh, there's no so for San Diego Comic-Con, they actually give you an estimated time after a period to let you know how long your wait is. They they did not do that for this. There were people there were people who waited, according to Reddit and stuff, and again, take all this with a grain of salt. There were people who claimed that they waited between six and eight hours to get through the queue. Yep. I don't know if I necessarily believe that, just only because like so many people I'm sure were dropping out. But regardless, there was probably some people who waited that long because Star Wars fans are sad. Um I mean, it's impossible if tickets sold out five hours later.

SPEAKER_01

If all tickets sold out after five hours, there's no way they could wait for it.

SPEAKER_07

But but that also goes back to them not updating that Q it. Um, the only announcement I think any of us saw was that they were like, make sure you click on add to cart after you've added your merchandise items. And that was an hour in to waiting. Yeah. They didn't update any. I will say, at least SDCC does a pretty good job of the couple times that I've ridden the queue with you guys, they do do a pretty decent job of updating the status screen with where things are at. It might not be super prompt, but at least eventually you'll get a screen that says four day passes are sold out, Saturday passes are sold out, etc. etc. Um So um we were all in the queue. Uh Jack, you made it through in an hour.

SPEAKER_08

It was hella fast.

SPEAKER_07

45 minutes? Like yeah, it might have only been a half an hour, actually.

SPEAKER_08

Like yeah, it was super fast. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_07

So his little green man will be.

SPEAKER_08

I'm doing it right now. I had a little black man because he ran like Usain Bolt.

SPEAKER_07

And then Lou and I's guys died. Uh they were dead. At the at the starting line.

SPEAKER_01

Well, what one one of one of my devices, both of my laptops were shit. My phone actually got through. It's like if none of us had gotten through, my my phone had got through to be able to get individual day passes. All four were still available, but the VIP and sold out.

SPEAKER_05

With that ridiculous 20 the ridiculous 20 limit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

So that was the other part. Like D said, I got through and it was fairly funny.

SPEAKER_07

So they they they had instituted a limit of 20 pac 20 tickets per uh purchase.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, like VIP or something like that.

SPEAKER_07

Which is a crazy high crazy high amount of tickets to allow people to buy when you're queuing up like this. Because Comic Con only allows you to do U plus sorry? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we had to have like four people buy all the passes for people that the one year we all did it, right? So to allow people to buy 20 passes, you're inviting resellers, you're inviting um scalpers, you're inviting people to pay other people to buy tickets so they can go and flip them. Um by the time Jack was done with getting through the getting through the queue and buying the tickets, there were tickets on eBay for six thousand dollars. Like, it was crazy. It was crazy. And there was no they never updated you as far as how long you were gonna be in the queue. They the only there was only rumors going around the tickets were sold out. The only way people knew was other people who had made it through the queue to and took screenshots of things that were sold out. Um because the merchandise thing was a multi-step process, which again, why? Why do I have to go and add things to my cart when I'm already in like then go and click on a button to say, okay, now move all this stuff to the cart? So like Jack had picked out a button.

SPEAKER_08

Um you had to do each item. Like, oh, I want five of these pins, add to cart, go back. I want five of this pin, add to cart.

SPEAKER_07

Which is even more ridiculous. So so Jack missed that step because he got in so fast. None of the none of the m social medias had populated to tell you what to do right. So he bought a bunch of well he picked a bunch of things.

SPEAKER_01

The key to a lot of that too was um uh it was more important to get the tickets than the merchandise.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. So it wasn't like, hey, let me sit up.

SPEAKER_01

You had you had 15 15 minutes to get through the checkout queue, and it was like, I don't want our risk, because it's happened to us before, uh, where some something was like uh I think it was Comic-Con two years ago. It was like Saturday sold out, so his oldest could only get a Friday ticket because we're going through and putting through the systems like, nope, get in, get out, we'll get the merchandise on site as best as we can. He was in Japan? I think he was in Japan.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Jack got in after 19 minutes. He sent a text that said, I am in at 19 after.

SPEAKER_07

And the rest of us, I think Ben eventually made it in after everything a lot of the stuff was sold out. Um he was the only one that I was aware of that his green man was moving at a somewhat decent pace. Yeah, was he actually seeing the green poop. The rest of us just were pooped on. Um so thank you, Jack, for that. But yeah, there were a lot of people who who got who who got screwed up.

SPEAKER_03

I need about pre-pritter.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

That was me after I bought everything.

SPEAKER_07

Um so yeah, so Jack bought his pass got passes for all of almost all of us, right? I got one of 17, yeah. But one other person. Well, one other person got in the group got in as well and was able to buy it. Yeah. Um the other ridiculous part, and this is something that I think is not is is not something that's common, is the Sunday price, the individual ticket price was the same as Friday and Saturday, even though it's a shorter day. Is it though? Or it's Thursday.

SPEAKER_01

We don't know that now.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, we don't know that. I'm gonna I'm gonna say typically, right? Typically, yes. Typically, yes. Typically, Sunday is I when we've had this conversation, Sunday typically is referred to as Kids' Day, where most of the um most of the programming is driven towards kids or teenagers. The day is shorter, so then everybody can get on the road and get get back to where they came from, vendors and and people. Um, and also the day that you go in and get the best deals, because vendors don't want to take their shit home. So they're they're you know, they're slashing prices. Um and so the fact that the Sunday ticket is the same price as Friday and Saturday, at least as far as what for the information that we have right now, seems greedy. Um just based on all the other comic conventions we've gone to. I think every other comic convention I've gone to, Sunday has been a shorter day where they finish things up at three o'clock or four o'clock and they're not open till seven. They don't have programming running until late in the evening. You know, there's not stuff to do. Um, like there's the other days. And also that would make it another, I think Lou, you figured it out,$88 if you bought individual days over the four-day pass, which is so lame. The fact that the tickets are so much more expensive than if you get a four-day pass. So if you get hosed and don't get a four-day pass, like you now have to spend almost a hundred dollars more. That's ridiculous. I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

To me, that makes that makes absolutely no sense. The moment, the moment you put four individual days in your cart, put it to a four-day, and put the price to a four-day.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Or just make the four days the same price at the end. So you again, you do that by making your Sunday cheaper, right?

SPEAKER_08

Like, yeah, what if you want weirdo? You want all four different kids get more badges, right? So there's one to do that.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, there's some people that we know that get autographs on all their badges, and maybe they wanted four individual day passes instead of the four day. So uh, yeah, that being said, a lot of people very, very unhappy. A lot of people very unhappy with Disney, a lot of people unhappy with Reed, a lot of people unhappy with Kathleen Kennedy for some. I'm kidding, they're not mad at her. I mean, it's probably her fault. They'll probably figure out a way to blame her. Yeah. Yeah, Lou runs in the circles the the uh that it it ended up being Kathleen Kennedy's fault somehow. Um so uh I'm not gonna argue that.

SPEAKER_08

So is the fandom menace?

SPEAKER_01

Wait, not to mention, not to mention a lot of dumbass people trying to get tickets. There's there was so much ignorance going on uh this whole process. People like, oh my god, scalper's got everything. I'm like, you guys are stupid.

SPEAKER_08

It's a small percentage.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, don't get me wrong, scalping's gonna happen all the time. But that's not 100% of what it's a small percentage.

SPEAKER_08

There's yeah, it's a small percentage. It is 1% of maximum tickets sold.

SPEAKER_07

And and also the mud I I would say, based on my EDC stuff, the majority of the people that were posting stuff online were just running a grift anyways and didn't actually have tickets. They were gonna sell their tickets on Craigslist, have somebody sell them the$400, and then delete. I'm out, I got my$400 stuff done. You know, because I guarantee you there was at least one person who was like, oh shit, this tick, this ticket's only fifteen hundred dollars. It's cheaper than any of the other tickets I'm gonna buy. And he's like, well, just sell me$1,500, and then you do it, and then all of a sudden, they stop responding. Womp, womb, womp. Uh, but that being said, the uh the amount of butthurt over the last week uh that you guys have shared on Facebook, what I've seen on Reddit, just in general, uh through the through the interwebs has been uh I haven't seen this amount of stuff in a very long time from Star Wars fans as far as the kind of unified boo-hoo.

SPEAKER_01

Um to me, it goes to the ignorance of folks. Like, do they not understand how many people were trying to get a limited amount of tickets? There were going to be a lot of people who missed out. Just because you missed out, it doesn't mean it was because of a scalper. It doesn't mean because of XYZ. It was just like there were going to be more people who didn't get tickets than did. And it means maybe it's easy for me or us to understand that because we've been doing uh uh SDCC for 25, 30 years, you know. So maybe it's easy for us to say that because I look at it like, look, if we get in, we get in, if we don't, we don't. That's just how it is. You get your by groups together like we've been doing for years. Um, and if you get in, you get in. If you don't, you don't. There's been so many times where it's like, oh yeah, we're not getting this day, or we're not getting this this day. Well, was it two, three years ago? I didn't I didn't even have a uh a Saturday badge or whatever it was last year or the year before. Last year. I didn't I didn't have Saturday. I went and played Magic next down in the hotel next door. That happens. It's like, oh damn. Well, at least I got these other three days, and then you move on. But these people are like, no, I am owed a ticket. Uh get rid of all the scalpers and put the tickets back up. Why? So you 50 people uh who or 50 tickets are available can be fought over by 500,000 people again. It's it's like that. That's the part that bothered me was how much stupidity there was on not understanding the demand for the first uh the first uh US one of these in five years, the 50th anniversary. I mean, there is so much it's like, come on, people, you had to have normally we talked about it before, you know, in the last couple of months. Uh we understood that there is a chance we're not gonna get tickets. We would not be having a lot of time.

SPEAKER_08

I I was like, okay, cool. It's gonna happen or it's not, right?

SPEAKER_07

And and guess what? Then we pivot. Guess what? Now we pivot and we go to Star Wars night and we go to Disneyland, right? Like we pivot and we go do other things. Like you were saying, exactly.

SPEAKER_08

We would have found something else to do. Um, scum and villainy every week, every night for still.

SPEAKER_07

Well, we could have we could have just went and watched the live stream together while not the same. At least we could have watched a live the live stream together and at least had been been around each other when those things were announced.

SPEAKER_01

But they reacted to what's going on with that news. Absolutely. But but yeah, every time I look at like again for five days looking at these posts, and it's like it's like that's not it's it's like, oh, I can't believe the reason why I didn't get tickets because of this. I'm like, no, you didn't get a ticket because there were probably forty times more people uh trying to get tickets than there were tickets. Well, I don't know the real numbers.

SPEAKER_07

I'd like to I'd like to know those numbers, but did did you guys see the um I saw something on Reddit where somebody had gotten a response? Again, this is all it's a post on Reddit. Who knows if it's been uh modified or changed, but it was somebody from the it was from like the generic like read pop or Lucasfilm or whatever customer service was, and they were like, my understanding is as they're removing these tickets from eBay, etc. etc. They will be selling res selling these tickets to the real fans or whatever, and that as you're like, we will keep your email in a queue. And I'm like, who's gonna do that? The logistics of doing that, especially if they're like, Well, I emailed, and then Lou goes, Well, I emailed, and then Lou gets tickets before me. Whoa, I emailed first. Like that type, like, there's no way that you're gonna you're making this to me, you're making the situation worse.

SPEAKER_08

So, what I hear is use a different email than your eBay. Because you can't take tickets from me. Emails don't match.

SPEAKER_01

Bruh, that is the first thing I thought. I was like, who is gonna be dumb enough to use their actual but there there's gonna be some, but there's gonna be enough that won't.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, all all you do is you say, okay, in six months we're gonna have another cue, right? We're gonna all the tickets we're gonna spend six months hammering down on all of these illegal sales through eBay and Craigslist and whatever, and all of those tickets that are canceled in six months, we're gonna post them up again in the same form because that's all they have. They have their software and that's it. But to be like, we're gonna pick and choose people as tickets become available based on when you emailed us, like how many people are not gonna email because I mean I mean again the change to work petition, right? That has 12,000 signatures. It's like nothing there their contract with Reed is is for whatever it is, they're not gonna just break that because Reed's been bullshit this whole time. It's not like Reed got new new new leadership in the last year, and now that's why they suck. They've always sucked, you know, and then there are the people that are like, I remember when I was at Celebration One and I just walked up to the window and I bought tickets to celebration two. And it's like, yeah, that's how Comic-Con used to be. Guess what? Shit changes, it gets popular. Being a geek is normal now. When you could walk up to the window and buy tickets, that was still, we were still all outsiders, we were still a uh a minority of the group, like of the of the the the society. Now it's an accepted thing, you know. Uh that you just go, okay. Like, I mean, you take your again. I did the Comic-Con thing one year with you guys, and I was like, it's gonna be a while before I do that shit again, because you know.

SPEAKER_08

Whereas before we'd been going for years. Yeah, and it was just a given tickets, it was a given for fifty dollars, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and make your hotel reservations make your hotel, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Make your hotel reservations as you were checking out the year before. Like, you know, that's how easy it used to be to go to Comic Con. You know, you we used to be able to stay downtown at a somewhat reasonable rate, like that's not a thing anymore, that does not exist. So to Yeah, to just assume that star like, you know, yeah. It's a much different way than it was twenty years ago or twenty-five years ago, like Louis Saints. It's changed.

SPEAKER_08

So it's blown up. So but that means you guys have a whole nother year, just like two years ago. Listen to us getting ready for celebration. And then a month after talking about it. Let's Duolingo and travel and conversion rate and money.

SPEAKER_01

I I'll I'll learn a different language this time.

SPEAKER_08

Let me see if duo has ebonics in there so I can talk downtown LA.

SPEAKER_01

Is is liberal a language? We gotta learn how to speak, you know, like I'm a victim. I mean, I know that's part of the cue.

SPEAKER_08

You just have to say I'm offended after everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well that there we go.

SPEAKER_08

It'll or I'm offended for you. Uh I'm picking up microaggressions, bro. Just reel it in a little bit.

SPEAKER_07

I'm picking up macro aggressions.

SPEAKER_01

Well, my aggressions are full blown. I don't do micros.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. He does macro. He does macro. There is no Lou does not do anything micro. Especially according to his girl. Oh shit. Oh damn.

May The 4th Merch Spending Confessions

SPEAKER_05

Alright, now that the negativity is over. Rewind it. Back to Monday.

SPEAKER_08

Motherfucking May 4th. The general public Star Wars Day. As we all know, it's May 25th. But we have to go with what the people go with. Because we're not whiny entitled bitches that Star Wars Day should be on May 25th. So we accept that it's on May 4th. Um so who spent way too much money?

SPEAKER_01

Let's say only one person's putting your hand up.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Oh, no. Real quick, nobody real quick, back. Real quick, we're gonna do something positive to end the negativity from earlier. All those tickets you got paid for within one day, right? Yes. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08

It was about a little over 24 hours the next day.

SPEAKER_07

You you may have put out a ton of money, but your friends got your back and took care of you right away. Instead of like, can I pay you twelve dollars today for a celebration pass on Wednesday?

SPEAKER_01

So much on that points card. He got a free Disney cruise.

SPEAKER_07

Yo, real, no shit. No shit.

SPEAKER_08

I got so many points it paid itself off. The card's like, you know what? Here's enough points. Your card just paid off. It's fine.

SPEAKER_01

Great. Your balance is a negative.

SPEAKER_08

Did you want to buy more celebration tickets? No, because then I'd be a scalper. Because who needs 16 tickets?

SPEAKER_01

It's like, no, I tried to. It said those fucking liars, they said 20. I was only allowed 17.

SPEAKER_08

I am owed three tickets.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I should do that.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna email them. Oh my god. Yeah. This was this was crap. I was only allowed 17 tickets. Ah, ducks scored again.

SPEAKER_02

Four to two.

SPEAKER_01

That's right.

SPEAKER_02

We're good in the third. It'll work out.

SPEAKER_05

It is the third. I know, but we're good in the third, so hopefully. Oh, yeah. So yeah, so May 4th. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for those of you out there, like, what the hell are you talking about? Ducks. Because like Donald Duck talking about Disney earlier. No, we're talking about the uh Vegas Golden Knights are playing the Anaheim Ducks uh playoffs, playoff hockey game three. Vegas is up two to one, and they're losing this game four to two.

SPEAKER_07

May 4th is also life day, right? Isn't that? No, that shit's in to that in September or December.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was gonna say, I want to say it's the fall or something like that. Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. So it's likely Christmas. Um yeah, so that's when everybody drops shit everywhere.

SPEAKER_02

And you went ballistic.

SPEAKER_08

Look, one of them was a$400 lightsaber.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, so that looked like the dildo from seven.

SPEAKER_08

Negative. Just saying. It's Darthmall's lightsaber that he uses in Maul. So that's the build-a-saber at Sabbi's. That one does look like a dildo. Ribbed for her pleasure.

SPEAKER_04

He made me do it.

SPEAKER_01

He made me do it. I didn't want to do it. He made it. He got the button tickler and everything. I mean, you look at that thing, it's like, oh, there's the button tickler.

SPEAKER_05

Alright.

SPEAKER_08

Say I'm glad I made my Sith Lite Saber in the second round because that one worked better.

SPEAKER_07

I I think I resisted all the shirts because they weren't in my size. How many shirts did you buy? None.

SPEAKER_08

The main force shirts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I would have bought it. It was in my cart, sold out in cart. I was entitled to that shit. You were entitled to 20 of them. Fuck.

SPEAKER_08

I was sitting in my doctor's office. I'm like, yes, no. They're like, why's your high why's your blood pressure so high? I lost my fucking shirt. Sold out in my cart. Let me tell you about Roosevelt. These motherfuckers. He's like, sir, we're gonna have to double your meds. Because goddamn. Um okay, I guess if we rewind it a little bit back to second first. Second or something. Whenever Lego put their stuff up, yes, I'd be like, Yeah, I was gonna say Lego, yeah. Because they had a a gift with purchase for a darksaber handle, which was badass. I think you had to spend like a hundred twenty, hundred and fifty or something for it. So I found enough Legos to get that, but they wouldn't let me redeem more than one reward per order. So I had to get enough to get the darksaber. But then they also had this cool um there's a lenticular coin of Django Fett Starship. Does not have an offensive name anymore. The skip spray. Skip yeah, fire spray. Fire spray. And um then another award was like a metal trading card of Mando and Grogu.

SPEAKER_05

So I had to do two more orders. They can't just give all I mean that is that is so stupid.

SPEAKER_08

And I tried. I tried. It was dumb.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I'm sure Lingo's run by Repop, so whatever.

SPEAKER_08

Probably. But at least they delivered. Which was also weird because they had Amazon deliver my order, which was weird.

SPEAKER_01

That happens a lot though. You know, all the contracts between the different people. Yeah. Post office will deliver for blah blah blah. I mean meah. Although I think that post office contract is over.

SPEAKER_08

But it's cool. What I end up getting, I got uh Mando and Grogu speeder bike, I got Cobb Vance speeder bike, um, I got Chopper, the Big Chopper.

SPEAKER_05

The Big Chopper. Fuck yeah. Um I got the Darth Vader bust. Um I think I got a Grogu. Something. It was enough.

SPEAKER_08

I'm good on Legos for a little bit. Except then they announced that fucking Darth Vader that looks like the minifig, but you build him.

SPEAKER_05

Why didn't they have that? That would have been an easy buy. Sons of bitches. And then uh uh body bath and body.

SPEAKER_08

Yep, so wife woke up. And then well, because with that, it was like a members-only sale. So all the stuff I got that I sent you guys pictures of, it's only online exclusive for whatever their um rewards club is. Their other stuff comes in store tomorrow. So your boy's gonna line up with Bath Body Works.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know they had uh a private like subscription for Bath and Body.

SPEAKER_07

Is it I mean Is it just like you get stuff early or you get No, it's just the rewards club, dude. Like Oh, okay. So if you're on the rewards club and you're a certain level or whatever, then exactly.

SPEAKER_08

Something like that. I don't know. She knows about it. And when I told her about it, she's like, oh, I'll look. And so she got like this um like two like travel like toiletry bags, um, Grogu hand sanitizer holders, a candle that actually smells pretty decent. Uh this dope ass messenger bag.

SPEAKER_05

Uh and a lunchbox, which is kind of cool.

SPEAKER_08

But then tomorrow is when they come out with like their and you can tell that's for dudes because the body wash is body wash, hairspray, and face wash. Not hairspray. In one bottle? Yeah, it's one bottle. It's uh body wash, shampoo, and face wash in one bottle.

SPEAKER_03

I can dig it.

SPEAKER_05

Just rub that Mando all over you. Get them titties.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, you like that dinjarin? This is the way. Yeah, this is the way. And then Disney Store. Um, again, aforementioned$400 Darthmall Lake Saber. I don't know if it'll be as good as the one that we got a couple years ago, Lou. The regular Darthmall Saber. I saw it at Disneyland today. I didn't notice if the box was wooden or not, or if it was just like cardboard.

SPEAKER_01

If it don't have the theme, dog, it's not better. It's gotta have the theme.

SPEAKER_08

Right. So I don't think it does, but it does come with a little lithograph and stuff. So I'll find Sam and get him to sign that. That'll be cool. Um I bought wife the Star Wars Knight charm from last year, because they put that up. She's like, no, there's no discount. I'm like, pitch it's Mother's Day. So she'll get that tomorrow when the box arrives. And Bill was at Star Wars Night this week, so I had him get this week, this year's Star Wars Night Pandora's too. Um one was Vader. Yeah, I forgot he I forgot he was there talking about member because he was like, Vader says something on the back. You don't know the power of the dark side, and then the other's Mando and Grogu, and on the back it says this the way. Um what else did I uh I ordered pins, the May 4th pins. So there's like the jumbo pin, the logo pin, and then the last no key? There was a key. As I was clicking through and everything, I saw um, I think Diz popped up and said, Oh, there's the key. I'm like, oh, let me go look. So I was able to get that too. And then mystery pins, the May 4th mystery pants, which they had none of at Disneyland. I was very sad about that. Um, so I ordered those. They were limited, they're only limited to one, right? At least like the first couple days. But last night, when I realized that there weren't any in the parks anymore, um, I just ordered them online on the Disney store because they still had them. And they had a limit of five plus thirty percent off when you spend like a hundred bucks or something. So I'm like, dang. I think that's better than my uh and park discounts, so sold. So I got five more boxes coming. Um oh, I did get a Roosevelt D. You're right. I ordered the bounty hunter, the Macquarie Bounty Hunter one from Disney Store. Hopefully, because they had the picture swapped. Ah, hopefully you picked the right one. I picked the one with the words that said bounty hunters. So hopefully because the words are worth a thousand pictures or something.

SPEAKER_05

Look at 'em.

SPEAKER_08

I don't I don't think so. And the other one is the one I had you get me at Bucky's a while back.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Um but yeah, no, the Macquarie Bounty Hunters is new, so hopefully I get the right one. I don't want to order both and return one.

Mandalorian And Grogu IMAX Sneak Peek

SPEAKER_08

Um Monday night, um, I went to the IMAX theater because they were doing uh showing uh the first 15, 20-ish minutes of Bando and Grogu in IMAX. Um I liked it. It had not an opening crawl, it had opening words. You know, like this is like where we are in the story and everything.

SPEAKER_05

It also had opening credits, which was weird. For a Star Wars movie.

SPEAKER_08

Um again, I didn't hate it. It's different. You know, it's not George Lucas doing the movies anymore. They're it's you know, it's a separate new kind of thing. So whatever. Um They didn't show a whole lot that we haven't seen though, which is good and bad. Um, which means everything we've seen in the trailers is like the first 25 minutes, so we don't know what the rest of the movie is. Um but yeah, it opened with him doing the ad-ats that we've seen in all the trailers and the sneak peeks and everything. Um then he goes to Sigourney Weaver and he's like, I'll get every bag on your deck cards. And I'm like, Yeah, well now you have to go find Rada. I'm like, yes, Rada. So he goes to Nalhutta, which I think is the first time we've ever seen Nalhutta, like ever.

SPEAKER_07

In live action. Yeah. I'm guess I would uh I think you couldn't in one of the galaxies or Star Wars Galaxies or old one of the uh New Republic you could go to or old Republic you could go to Nalhutta. I think a galaxy probably go to Nalhutta. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

But yeah, that's one of the first times we've seen Nalhutta. Uh also that shirt's still up, Jack. In Canon. Oh, is it good? Yeah. Just in case. Yeah. Why is it$2 more?

SPEAKER_06

What the fuck, Disney? Right? Disney Tax.

SPEAKER_08

Um, so it's cool. He goes and talks to the twins from Book of Boba Fett. And they're like, hey, we need you to find our nephew. He's like, well, what does he look like? They're like, well, we only have an old picture of him. And they show a baby picture, and he looks just like um he did in Clone Wars. Which I thought was funny. I don't know if anybody else in the audience like did you watch?

SPEAKER_01

Those who saw that are gonna appreciate that one.

SPEAKER_08

Right? Um so then he goes about his way and he finds um what's his face, the director dude that says business is closed.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah. And um uh it looks like real quick on the case.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, yeah. Close we're closed. Uh looks like as far as Nal Huda goes, uh there's a couple episodes of the Clone Wars that were there. Oh, okay. Uh later stage of the Clone Wars.

SPEAKER_05

We were definitely there in the Clone Wars. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Um, so uh that's about where it ended when he went to go ask him uh where Rada was. And then um Mando and Grogu are up in the stands watching Rada fight this human, which is super unfair fight. For the for him.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

And then it ends like, hey, cool, come back, May 22nd.

SPEAKER_05

So yeah, so there's a whole lot of stuff that they've haven't shown in the trailers. So it looked good. I liked it. They show how he gets his new razor crest. Zeb's in it, he's super good. Cool. For people that appreciate Zeb. Who doesn't appreciate Zeb? Savages.

SPEAKER_02

People who don't even know who Zeb is.

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm. He's Mandalorian's purple bat friend. Well, that's cool. Yeah, looking forward to it. That's cool.

SPEAKER_08

Um and then Lou ran around buying popcorn buckets.

SPEAKER_01

Lou did run around because somebody wanted popcorn buckets. Uh I still haven't been back to AMC though. I haven't heard anything about that they're out yet, so I just didn't even.

SPEAKER_08

I haven't either. I haven't seen anything about it. Um tomorrow for Secret Movie, I'll get my Cinemark stuff. I mean, assuming they still have it, but I'm sure they are. They're gonna buy it, make a ton of the shit.

SPEAKER_01

I w I will it I will admit, uh, I got the helmet because it looked better in person. I was like, I have no interest in any of this shit. Then I saw the helmet because I I got there when they opened. So I wasn't sure how crazy it was gonna be or how limited it was gonna be. And they were still pulling the boxes uh to the front and put they know that little flyer they put up by the pot porn station to have all what's available? They were they gave me the sheet so I could look at it, and then they put it in the thing, and they brought out all the stuff so I could see it in person, and I saw the helmet and was like, whoa. Yes, very much so. I can grab it if you want, it's right there. But uh yeah, that one I had no intention of buying, and I bought it anyway. And then old girl wanted the uh the ad at and then some AMC she wants the pram.

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm. Same.

SPEAKER_01

So I think I'm going to AMC on Wednesday, so I'll take a look when I'm there on Wednesday. I was gonna say, yeah, the movie's in ten days. Maybe I'll next time I go to because when I do my my grocery shopping at Walmart, across the street basically is the AMC theater. So when I do that this week, I'll swing by. If they got it, Jack, I'll just grab it.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you're about to come out.

SPEAKER_07

So I did notice I did I did notice the last uh Regal movie we went and saw, they had cleared out their entire sec like they have one of those where it's like the serpentine line and each eye each uh row had a um had grocery uh uh grocery shelves that they had all the popcorn buckets on. Last time we went, or two times before they were like blowing them out, like everything was like 50% off the ones that they had, because they were all ones that were just bullshit. Uh and then the last time we went, they were basically all gone except for the re like the regal specific stuff, like the regal throw and the regal mug and that type of thing. Um so um I think we're gonna go to both in the next couple weeks, so I'll I'll keep an eye out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, the Regal's the other one I want, the Mandalorian bust, and it has the projector and music and stuff, so we'll see.

Maul Finale And Vader Breakdown

SPEAKER_07

Um but then uh also we had two shows into this week, right? We had we had Daredevil and we had Maul End. So And we haven't talked about Maul at all.

SPEAKER_08

Um I mean, a little bit here and there. It was part of our top cartoons. Um so did it push Andor out, Lou?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, sure did. I mean, we didn't even have to get to the to the last episode. It pushed it out at nine.

SPEAKER_08

Uh the only thing I was a little disappointed about was that Paul Bettney didn't voice uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I caught that too and was a little bit disappointed.

SPEAKER_08

But I don't like it. I accept it, like Lando said, I accept it.

SPEAKER_05

I understand it, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I I want to know if it was a scheduling issue or I didn't want to do an issue. I don't know why he I mean I'm sure that new news will come out eventually. But I was at somebody as soon as he sh he showed up, I was all like, okay, I was kind of turned my head, you know, I was like, okay, is it gonna be him? Is it gonna be him?

SPEAKER_08

I tried listening more than I was before. Yep. I can tell.

SPEAKER_07

Like, that's not vision. Well, it's not I don't think he's trying to be Paul Betney. Like, I think he's just trying to have the same he's just trying to have the same vibe, right?

SPEAKER_08

The same Yeah, no, I don't want him to imitate him. That's fine. Yeah. It's just I was hoping, you know, to keep it kosher.

SPEAKER_05

Keep it all the same.

SPEAKER_08

But no, I thought it ended awesome. I'm glad that they are already working on the second season. So let's fucking go. And we should have a bunch of that at season. We should have a bunch of that at celebration. Shit, I hope season two is out before celebration. Probably won't be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01

What I want is I want some kind of art of the of the five, you know, you know a scene I'm talking about where they all line up their blades.

SPEAKER_08

The one that's posting all over the internet right now. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

How is there not art of that available to buy or put it on a t-shirt? Whatever you gotta do, man. You put it on a t-shirt. I bitch about$37 t-shirts. I will buy that one for$37.

SPEAKER_08

You hear that Russell? You just put that shit on a full panel shirt, lose on it. Lou by one of every size just in case he gets fat or loses weight.

SPEAKER_07

For real.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna go either direction here.

SPEAKER_07

Uh where do you guys rank? I mean, we could do lightsaber fights at some uh down the road, but uh where how what was your thoughts on uh

SPEAKER_08

Just the way they choreographed it, it was so good. It's obviously it's animated, so they can do whatever the fuck they want, right? It's a little bit easier, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_07

But I don't feel like they took advantage of it being animated. No, nothing was like unbelievable. Yeah, exactly. Like it was a it was a thing that I think they could have filmed in real life and it would have been right. You you it would have been very similar. But the fact that we got two banger lightsaber battles over the last two episodes. You know. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

All of them. Just to go back to the beginning, even with uh Decky and um uh what the hell's the crazy uh two boots.

SPEAKER_05

The pre apprentice. It's right there. Uh Devin.

SPEAKER_01

Either way. Devin. Devin, there we go. All all it even with them fighting Maul. I mean, all all of the fights have just been just like eyes wide open. It's just like, holy crap. Let me go back and watch this again. I've already seen the series twice.

SPEAKER_07

So um I saw a lot of people talking about it's nice that uh Mar Marok and the Crow kind of got a redemption because the only times we've seen them. Well, the only time we've seen Maroc was uh Ahsoka, and then we saw the Crow in the Tales of the Jedi, and both of them were dispatched pretty easily. So to have them get kind of a redemption arc where I don't think a lot of the Inquisitors do. Like it seems like the Inquisitors are there, and I think they're supposed to be like, they're super badass, but like then they go up against things that just are like you dead. Uh so it was nice to have them have a kind of a thing kind of re-establishing their badassery. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So uh I appreciated that. That instead of just making them look like punks and Vader coming in and doing his thing, like they were involved while he was.

SPEAKER_08

That's why I was super expecting that. I didn't think they would bring Vader in so fast.

SPEAKER_01

No, I I wasn't expecting it. I wasn't expecting it until like the last second where they said you're coming your way. I'm like Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Well, and they did you see the I think the quote uh Vanessa Marshall said was they were saying, Oh, we're gonna be killing you at the end. She said, The only way I want to be killed is Vader pulling my lungs through my throat, through, through my mouth. And then you got that. Because it was just that was fucking She was like, if you listen, that's what that sound is. It was disturbing. It was that was disturbing. Uh and you didn't even know. You were just like, Wait, is that a wild animal? No, that's not a wild animal. Like, and the last Mandalorian guy didn't even get a fucking death. He just went into the mist and disappeared, and that was it. Gone. Um I do think it was funny how like they built up Maul's group to be like this badass group of guys, and like two of them got like good deaths, and everybody else just kind of went out like a punk. Like they were like, Oh shit, we gotta clear the table for season two. We can't have any of these guys left. We'll just have the big guy jump into the that whole jump into the acid.

SPEAKER_01

Right. That was pretty badass though.

Daredevil Ending And MCU Threads

SPEAKER_07

Um, so I think we all agree that it went out on a high note. Um definitely. Uh what did you guys uh we also had Daredevil End. What did you guys think of the end of Daredevil? I liked it.

SPEAKER_08

I mean, that show hasn't missed since I'll say it, since Disney brought it back. That show hasn't missed. It's still top tier. I like that they let them just go R-rated. Like I said, Jessica Jones dropping an F-bomb. I need a couple minutes myself after that. Um, at the end. The other Luke. The other Disney Luke. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Um I don't know. The way the first Disney Luke is going, there's only about to be one Luke.

SPEAKER_05

F that dude. Little bitch. So, yeah, but uh Lou, what'd you think of Daredevil?

SPEAKER_01

I thought it was I thought it was great. I thought it was it was really well done. The character development, uh bringing in the older characters, like the the cop, the black dude who let them talk to each other when Karen was in jail. Uh bringing that back, you know, obviously um Old Girl going to her uncle's job. There's a lot of stuff they brought in from the old one, and obviously it'll continue in the Spider-Man movie. Uh so the fact that they're tying all that together, like we talked about what, two weeks ago when I was when I was like, I like this because they're pulling stuff together when we did our list. So with them doing that with Daredevil, and the fact that um Iron Fist is in next next season, season three, you know, obviously Luke Jess. It's just it's it was just the whole thing. The whole thing was just really, really well done. And it ended the way it had to, right? With him and oh, you can't do all that and just get away with it.

unknown

Yep.

SPEAKER_07

So well, he he said that earlier in the season when they were fighting. He's like, the only way this ends is if we both leave New York City. This does not end with one of us winning. Like we both have to lose everything, and that's where they're at. So I yeah, I thought they handled it really well. I thought, you know, the acting in that show is is is pretty top-notch across the board. Um, you know, they they it was nice that they tied up a bunch of the loose ends. Like most of his cabinet has is either dead or has other things to do. Um, you know, the fact that they were able to do this the the Yankee swap with Luke Cage coming back because Mr. Charles found uh Bullseye, and now Bullseye has his, you know, he had his full kind of redemption arc, and now he can kind of go back to being a gray, uh, a gray tinted character. Um you know join the Thunderbolts since Bucky's gonna die. Yeah. Um yeah, no, I I mean I thought we I thought both of those shows ended on super high notes. I was really happy that we got them both back to back. Um it's been a really long time since I think we've been able to talk positive about anything television-wise that Disney's put out. So it's nice that we had two shows back to back that kind of you know, scratched that.

SPEAKER_08

That shows what they can do.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When when given the proper care and feeding.

SPEAKER_08

Um those bitches missed an empty nut.

SPEAKER_05

We're gonna lose these guys and they missed a fucking empty nut. Well, we're two to two, it's on a pace, and that's what it should be out there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

It's playoffs. It should be. Um, but yeah, no, I thought it was good the whole the courtroom stuff, everything uh with Kingpin, knowing that Daredevil could hear him and he's just like whispering, like, dude, oh fuck your shit up. Daredevil's like, cool, not if I fuck my shit up first.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. They took that super cool mile.

SPEAKER_07

It's cool that you can burn it's cool that you can burn me down. I'm fucking burning everything down. Yeah. Just so you know. Like, um how nobody believed him, and Powell was just like, ah shit, I got knocked out by a fucking player. That's an outcome he was such a fucking badass. I got it now. Like you had you have to admit he, I I mean, I think he begrudgingly had to give him a little respect for that, even though Powell is a giant piece of shit. Um I mean, and then the nice thing is that they also gave them all the they cleaned everything up, so now Spider-Man, brand new day, can come in and the slate's clean. There's not stuff going on that you're like, well, why isn't he doing this and helping this and doing that, right? Because they're gonna have the they're gonna have the Punisher one shot, which is probably gonna explain how he gets out of King Well, or did Kingpin's prison did they release everybody from him? I mean they haven't explained that at all, right? I don't know. Yeah, because he besides the swordsman, he still had all of his um Yeah, everybody was still in jail there. Yeah. So I don't know. So I guess we'll see. We'll see on Tuesday. Yeah. But they're supposed to have the one shot with Punisher, right? Uh yeah, that's on Tuesday. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

That yeah, I was gonna say that comes out in Tuesday.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, it's called one shot, isn't it? Like Punisher one last kill, one last kill.

SPEAKER_00

One last, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Because Punisher is supposed to have a decently sized role in Spider-Man, right? I don't know. Something I'm gonna do. I mean, a role is gonna be he's gonna be in there.

SPEAKER_01

So the same way Daredevil is gonna have a role in it.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, because why would Spider-Man fight the hand? That doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Plus, like I said, that shot they they show of of Spider-Man leaping in the hand leaping, it's like the bottom row of people, their eyes are on somebody else. Again, like they did with the last Spider-Man movie with the trailer and tried to trick you. So but it does make sense for Daredevil to be in that. And I'm expecting it, Punisher get the way the media calls it, uh, what do they call it? Grounded, having it a grounded type of story. I'm like, I'm I'm I'm curious to how this is gonna play out.

Summer Movies And Top Gun Plans

SPEAKER_07

Yep. I I mean I'm I wasn't super excited about this the move the the summer movie season, but I have to admit I'm kind of warming up to it a little bit. I I I mean I think Mandu and Groove will be fine, even if it's a season four. Uh I think Master of the Universe is gonna be corny as hell. Looking forward to it, though. Uh we have Mortal Kombat 2.

SPEAKER_01

That's what's gonna make it dope. Um watching that Tuesday. We have Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Speaking of which, check this out. So I asked old girl, she's got stuff going on this weekend, you know, uh daughter's graduation, um, dad's in town today. Mother's dad's the whole thing. Uh yeah, all that's happened. Dad got in town today, then they got things going on, but she's I'll I'll see her Tuesday, then not again until the following Sunday. Night scored, yay.

SPEAKER_08

A minute left in the game.

SPEAKER_01

So, so I was like, okay, we only got Tuesday movie. Do you want to watch Devil Wars Prada 2 or MK2? And she's like, well, I just saw uh the first one, that the 2021, she hadn't seen it before. She's like, I saw it yesterday with my son. So how about we watch MK2 instead? We can watch Devil Wars Prada 2 some other time. I'm like, I was not expecting that. I'm glad I didn't buy the ticket ahead of time.

SPEAKER_08

Because I was like, you're not the only one that's been in the I'm not the only one that's been in Twilight Zone all weekend then. Right.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, what I I'm not even kidding. I I saw the text and I was like, I I'm usually not wrong uh when it comes to her and what she wants to do. 99% of the time I am correct. And it pisses her off that I'm correct that I know her so well, but then she loves her that I know her so well, you know what I mean? So uh double-edged sword there. But yeah, she straight up said she wants to watch MK2.

SPEAKER_05

I'm like, alright. Twist my arm. Are we uh hang on? I thought I had There we go.

SPEAKER_07

Alright, so we have we have Mortal Kombat 2, we have In the Gray, which I think I think I'd I I think that'll be a good movie. I I mean I really like Henry Cowboys.

SPEAKER_01

Well I forgot that's out.

SPEAKER_07

Um I'm not mad if that's tomorrow night's movie. Yeah. Uh we got Mando and Grogu. We got Backrooms. That movie looks weird as fuck. Um which one is that? That's the one where it's the the they're like it's a closed uh like department store, and there's like a room in the back, and then they you like the every day, every day they go in the back, it changes. It's supposed to be like suspense horror type of thing. Um, so I'll send you I'll send you the link after. Yeah, I'll remember that one. Then we got Masters of the Universe, uh, which I think it's gonna be corny, but I'm looking forward to it. Uh Disclosure Day is either gonna be great or it's gonna be ass. But I mean it is Steven Spielberg, so at least it'll be watchable.

SPEAKER_00

It's Emily Blunt, man. It's Emily Blunt. That's all you need to do.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, Emily Blunt and Steven Spielberg sold. Uh after that, we got Death of Robin Hood on my list. That looks interesting. Yeah, that looks interesting. It does, yeah. I agree. After that is Supergirl. Burdick's still out on that. The week after the month after that, then we go a couple weeks without anything. Like July 4th, I didn't really see anything coming out over July 4th that I was excited about.

SPEAKER_01

Um July 17th, we're gonna be the Washington movie.

SPEAKER_05

Don't you care about America? I don't. No. Ah, typical leftist answer. That's fair. This is D.

SPEAKER_07

Um Truth Justice America Wayne that was really loud. Can you please adjust your volume? I was like, what? What? What? Uh then in July we got the Odyssey. Um I mean, it's probably gonna be really long, but uh I mean the cast looks fucking amazing. So um, and then Spider-Man Brand New Day, and then The End of Oak Street. That's those are the movies that I kind of have on my list that I'm keeping an eye on. Um I think there was a few more trailers that came out this week that looked like they might be uh might be uh interesting, but nothing uh nothing I want to talk about tonight.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, Jack, what else is on your list? Hold on, let's see. Now that the game's over, I can look at my phone. Was Final 4-3? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know, it's funny, Anaheim was actually favorite in that game. I saw that and was like, why are they f I get you know, plus there's no there's no stone. Mark Stone was out that game, so it's like alright.

SPEAKER_08

Alright, we talked about IMAX. Um celebration tickets done. Um I thought it was a little weird that there were no like big announcements on May 4th. Yeah. No nothing about Ahsoka or Jedi 3.

SPEAKER_07

Or a trailer for Starfighter or something like that.

SPEAKER_08

But then I saw um Dave was doing press for Maul, right? And he said that everything's getting its own time to shine. So right now it's Maul, then we're moving to Brendo and Grogu. So I'm like, okay, cool. So once Mendo and Grogu's over, then we'll probably get Ahsoka.

SPEAKER_07

So well and Comic Con's coming up. So like a trailer? Like what are you talking about? They have a panel. They have a panel at Comic Con, right? I believe so.

SPEAKER_01

They might be able to I think Disney has they probably will. Yeah, I mean D23's Star Wars.

SPEAKER_05

So they gotta hold some stuff. They gotta hold they gotta go they gotta hold back. Yeah. Um so yeah, I thought that was a little weird. Going back to Maul.

SPEAKER_08

Um so the last thing the last time that Vader heard about Maul was when Anakin sent Ahsoka to go deal with him. So as far as he knows, she's gone, right? He's gone, right? No, the Ahsoka's gone. So does he think Maul knows? So does he think that Maul killed Ahsoka while he's fighting him? Do you think he's thinking that at all or no?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_07

I don't think I don't know. Is that sorry, this is a I haven't seen this episode of Clone Wars. Is this the is that the last time that that Ahsoka? You didn't watch that last arc. Which arc?

SPEAKER_05

Where of which? Where Ahsoka survives Order 66.

SPEAKER_01

He fights she fights Maul, captures Maul, and then all the Order 66 happens while they're together on the ship with Rex. You did not watch Oh my god, dude, you are missing out.

SPEAKER_07

Well, we already established that, Lou. We established that the last podcast. Asshole.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no. You're you're missing out on the whole series, but that art, because it tied into episode three, I figured you watched it on its own because you don't need the rest of the shit to go with it.

SPEAKER_07

No, I don't. That is peak Star Wars, bro. Okay. Alright, fine. I will I will seek it out. I think I've been downloading.

SPEAKER_01

Maul probably can never top Clone Wars just because of that arc by itself.

SPEAKER_08

I thought it was the route of the hatch.

SPEAKER_01

I think it was.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, because there were like three four episode arcs. There was the bullshit with stupid undercut for Ahsoka that nobody likes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

And then there was the Ahsoka kind of sort of coming back with um Sabine's mom.

SPEAKER_05

And then there was the Order 66 arc. So, yeah, so watch the last four episodes of season seven. Let me see where I'm at.

SPEAKER_01

Watch episode three while you're at it because like some of the shots from episode three, you get the different perspective of what's going on around the galaxy from what Ahsoka and Anakin and Obi-Wan are doing, but it still ties in. It's like this hell, like, oh, that was the scene from episode three. It was holy shit, it was super good.

SPEAKER_08

It was masterful.

SPEAKER_07

Alright, I'm putting it in my Disney. I'm putting it in my Disney Plus queue so I can watch it later. Yeah, dude, definitely do that.

SPEAKER_01

Uh but but yeah, no, I I didn't think I didn't think there was any kind of like like like again, Vader didn't say a word. That was on purpose. Um I I I get it, even though James Earl Jones and the estate has already said it's cool uh to to restart.

SPEAKER_08

Dave talked about that too, actually.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, did he? Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. I'll I'll find it, I'll send it to you.

unknown

All right.

SPEAKER_08

Again, listening to that man talk Star Wars is a beautiful thing every time.

SPEAKER_01

Um but but yeah, him not the the the obvious power that he had over everybody else was just ridiculous. It was but his hate is is is I mean you gotta imagine, man. This is what not too long. There there is there is no fucking remorse yet. There's no he he's past all that, but he is nothing but hate. Like the whole Anakin is still there. No, he's not. Not not at this time. He's fucking white and and the power was just phenomenal.

SPEAKER_07

One thing I one thing I appreciated was that number one, it looked effortless. Like it never even looked like Vader like had put any thought at all into what was happening. Like everything was just automatic to him. And the second part was I loved the fact that they kept his fighting style tied to a new hope. Like it was very short, just like there wasn't, he wasn't like you know, robot like Maul. Or Maul was just like Maul is all just he was just like bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, which again, what that was his fight with Obi-Wan, was just like like I'm not putting any effort into this at all. Like, this is just you know, with the Obi-Wan fight, I think he put in a tiny bit more effort because of who it was. But with Maul, I mean, the fact that he completely dismissed them, but then they also are building on him moving to that fighting style that he had a new hope, right? Because that's the goal, right? Is that you want to see his he want you want to see him go from Anakin's fighting style to a new hope, Vader fighting style. It's not the same style. How Anakin fights and how Vader fights are completely different things. And so I appreciated the fact that kind of unlike, I mean, a little bit like Rogue One, but I think they really leaned into it in Maul was showing his. Well, I mean, these guys had lightsabers, those punks just had blasters. But you know what I'm saying? Like there was it was it was very little um movement. Everything was everything was effortless, it felt like it where everybody else is sweating and heaving and oh my going back and forth, and he's just like, okay, like I think they I was watching a video and they pointed out a thing where like um I don't remember, I think it was during the Doki Maul fight, and like Doki had come in and hit Maul or hit Vader in the front, and he just was like, Burt, and then like you see Maul like try to like flip behind him, and he goes, Brut, and then he just goes, Burt, like it's like he and he doesn't turn his head, he doesn't react. It's just like him just like, oh, never mind, like whatever. Fuck you, fuck your family, fuck like fuck everything. Like, um, it was uh to me, it was very impressive.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it it really was, and it was obvious to me that Maul figured out who he was halfway through the fight. Um, but I'm curious if Vader has any kind of remember, you know, Anakin obviously saw him.

SPEAKER_08

Right, do you remember the motherfucker tried to run you over?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I wonder if that's he just came to save you and he tried to run you over. So yeah, so I was curious about that. I was like, I wonder if that mattered.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, but that but it goes back to your buttons.

SPEAKER_07

But I think it goes back to what you were talking about with him being So consumed with hate and anger. Even if he recognized him, I would even venture to say it didn't matter. Like he didn't see he didn't see him, right? He just saw him as an obstacle. He saw a target. Yeah. He just saw him as an obstacle, and it didn't matter to him. He was the fucking small. He was the T 800. You know, he was the T 1000. Nothing else around mattered except for getting through, like taking care of these, these Jedi, right? Because that was his whole goal at that point of time was going through and eliminating and he and Maul just happened to be there. Like I don't even think he was. I mean he was there for Maul, but I think they also were like, oh, and there's Jedi here. And he was like, well, fuck that. So that would be my team.

SPEAKER_01

What do you guys think of Crow running off like a bitch?

SPEAKER_05

To be expected.

SPEAKER_08

That's why Ahsoka handled his ass without a lightsaber. Yep. Yep. And then also, like, where do those two fit into the Jedi Order? Where's this creepy Crow mask looking motherfucker?

SPEAKER_05

At the Jedi Temple. Is that what his face looks like? Is that a mask? Don't think we know. There's probably a comic that talks about it. Maybe. Maybe. Or or will be. Or will be.

SPEAKER_01

They'll wait, they'll wait till they they I don't know, get to the point where they kill him off and then they'll drop a comic for history.

SPEAKER_08

They already killed him. Yeah. He did. I mean, uh became Ahsoka's lightsabers.

SPEAKER_01

He's not dead in all. So I'm talking about when they kill him off. Because I assume they're gonna jump there. I mean, there's gotta be a time, some kind of time.

SPEAKER_08

They haven't said, but there I mean there should be. I I guess it depends on how long the show goes, because I mean, obviously, he doesn't even run the Crimson Dawn yet.

SPEAKER_01

So Yeah. And then what was the other thing? I mean, it lost it. It was like it was the timing of all how that's gonna play off. Or like, are they even gonna bother explaining like like it you gotta think that the show Merrick somehow is gonna die on the show so his mom can resurrect him or somebody in that not his mom, but mom's people.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um the the witches can um resurrect him. So are they like it's kind of like solo, right? Like if people were bitching about Mauls, like, oh, we know what happens in Rebel, so why what why bother to watch Maul? I'm like, because it's good and you're an idiot.

SPEAKER_08

Because how did he go from Maul to running the Crimson Dawn? I I I'm interested. And then there's still after Solo, right? So how did he lose that? What happened to Kira? Like, how did he go from that to being stuck on Malicor? Stuck on Malicore Ezra Franks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there's so much. But a lot of people are like, oh, I'm not watching it because I know what happens. Like, you don't know shit.

SPEAKER_08

Stupid as hell.

SPEAKER_01

Um But you know, those things I like to think that they're going to close close those uh close those airship.

SPEAKER_08

As long as the show's successful and they let it run for a few seasons, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

It'll be uh it'll be interesting how they present challenges to Maul in season two. Because we've already had the Inquisitors show up, we've already had Vader show up. So like it'll be interesting to see how they because I mean basically everything between episodes one and six slash seven never really were a challenge for Maul outside of the couple. Um that that nothing really showed a challenge, at least as far as fighting-wise with Maul. That it'll be interesting to see now that they've played their card of the Inquisitors and Vader, is that gonna be, you know, every season we're gonna have a character development and then the Inquisitors come in, right?

SPEAKER_08

You know it will be. I think it'll be less like physical challenges, more like character challenges. Because I mean, what are you gonna do to them all? Because there is that counterpoint. What could possibly happen to him? We know he survives until right before episode four. So what it it has to all be character development. Does he care about Devin when she likely ends up being killed? Like, does that have any effect on him? What kind of challenges does he get trying to take over Crimson Dawn?

SPEAKER_01

See, now that actually was my my thought that I lost. Is Devin gonna be talent and gonna be the future enemy of the Ray movie? It's possible. They could tie it all together if they really wanted to.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, 100%. But then where was she? Why would why didn't she why wasn't she on Malicor with Maul? Did she betray him and get him stuck there? Or on Tazooing After Ezra and he's like, fuck yeah, this guy's awesome. Let me take him. I love stealing children and turning them back.

SPEAKER_01

Uh more shit that they can develop over the next few seasons. That's the thing. But that's the rumor, of for obvious reasons, that she'll become talent.

SPEAKER_07

Right. I think that's the hope. I think that's a little bit of fan casting too.

SPEAKER_01

Like they're Oh, of course. The same way, the same way Rook people wanted her to be the armorer.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah. The armorer still had her lungs in her chest, though. Yeah. Cause she can talk.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, there's there's an issue there, yeah. Having your lungs kind of matter.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, a little bit.

SPEAKER_08

Um, alright then. I guess we'll kill it there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Was that the list? Is that everything?

SPEAKER_08

That was the list. I mean, it was enough. It was enough. We're at an hour and a half already. We still have more stars a month to go.

SPEAKER_07

But yes, next time when we all go to Disney, when you guys go in June, if you write Indiana Jones, you'll have to take those pictures I sent and see if I can like do the comparison, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh it's a super cool place, so yeah. But beyond that, uh, we're gonna go. I'm uh I'm uh doing something different. We're gonna go see Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick on Wednesday. Back to hell back to back. Talk about me not loving America. Doesn't get much fucking more America than fucking Top Gun. Stay with Bagose. Wow. There we go. Mark it, kids. Someday there will be a website. Someday there will be a website that it'll have all the card it'll have it cataloged of all of the times that we agreed. Right? All six of them. All six of them. Timestamps and everything. Topic and but yep. So instead of I think instead of doing more movies. Yeah, yeah. Uh instead of instead of Mortal Kombat 2, I think we're gonna do Top Gun instead. So that'll be uh that should be fun. Because I think it's the 4K remastered, so it should look pretty fucking sexy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, when I when I was getting the the Adat um and I saw the new helmets, because they have Goose's helmet and Maverick's helmet for popcorn buckets for the re-release, I was like, I forgot that was happening, actually. Uh helmets look pretty cool, I ain't gonna lie. There were some cool looking helmets, but uh new drops. Goose is a stuff. Damn at it. Oh, that would be so funny. That would be so funny. How great would that be?

SPEAKER_08

Visor doesn't come off. No, you have to pull this part off so it cracks. You have to eat through the crack. You don't eat through the visor, it doesn't flip up. And now Duke's back to hate in America, because he hates goose.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, well, it sounds like it'll just be me and Lou next week, so that should be fun. Otherwise, we'll catch up with you. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07

We will uh so I'll have, I'm sure I'll have a story to tell when I get back. And uh yeah, so I'll see you guys in a couple weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, uh everyone have a good week.

SPEAKER_01

You'll have you'll have a story and I'll have a story because it'll be uh for me, Denver Con that same week.

SPEAKER_07

Hell yeah. Totally. Or story to tell anyway. Story to story to tell. Yeah, story time two weeks from now. So all right, Jones, you guys have a good uh good night. Uh thanks for watching and listening, everyone. See ya. Yep, bye. Too loo.

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