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Why Coming Second Feels Like Losing (and What the Olympics Teach Us About Life)

Julie Clark & Catherine Chapman Episode 110

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Episode 110

What if silver doesn’t mean failure? We dig into the Winter Olympics with a candid, funny lens—curling showdowns, aerial bravery, and bobsleigh margins thinner than a heartbeat—and uncover how elite sport mirrors our everyday mindset traps. Why does a bronze sometimes feel like triumph while silver can feel like loss? That tension sparks a bigger conversation about control, expectations and the stories we tell ourselves.

We talk through the power of focusing only on what you can control—your routine, your breath, your preparation—and how that focus beats the scoreboard, the scale and the comparison habit. From midlife bodies to busy kitchens, we challenge the myth that lighter is always better or that you must be “fit enough” to start. Instead of chasing a shifting “there,” we prioritise the journey: strength gains over weeks, calmer energy, better sleep, joints that thank you, and the quiet wins that compound into real health. You’ll hear how perfectionism convinces smart people to quit what they love, and how a single reframe—bronze joy over silver despair—can put the fun back into fitness, food and life.

Along the way, we share practical mindset cues: don’t “win the warm-up,” reset when you stall, and use a kinder inner voice to unlock the part of your brain that performs best under pressure. We swap the tyranny of the scale for richer metrics of wellbeing, and we invite you to rewrite old stories that keep you small. If the margin between podium places can be 0.3 seconds, your small daily improvements matter more than you think.

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Warm Welcome And Snack Banter

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to Far Too Fabulous. Julie and Catherine. Join us on a mission to embrace your fabulousness and redefine wellness. Get ready for some feistiness, inspiration, candy chat, and humour as we journey together towards empowered wellbeing.

SPEAKER_00

Let's dive in. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Far Too Fabulous Podcast. I did like a newsreader again, didn't I?

SPEAKER_01

That was very good though. I like the very professional. We usually just start off howling. I actually thought the first thing that everyone was going to be able to hear was your tummy rumbling.

SPEAKER_00

No, because I've eaten before we've had before we're recording today, I've actually eaten my lunch. But you've been really busy, so have you had your lunch?

SPEAKER_01

I have had some rice cakes and himmes and avocados. And then I've just discovered. Oh, this is well, we're gone. We're gone already. I just discovered some crackers, sneaky crackers in the uh cupboard that were rosemary and salt.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I love those ones.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. Yeah, they've got it. I was a good job I was going out. I think because I would have eaten the entire pack here.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they're very easy to eat, those ones, aren't they? Are they the ones from Audi?

SPEAKER_01

When they no, I think these were cars ones, these were proper posh ones. Because they do them ones in Audi. Oh, it's because I didn't go shopping at the weekend, it was Mark. So some yeah, nice little surprises in the cupboards.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, funnily enough, my husband did the shopping this week as well. But what it meant was when I went to cook the dinner last night, one of the key ingredients I needed wasn't there. You know, when you've I've done the meal plan, yeah, but people haven't thought, for example, if you're making a chicken dish that you actually do need some chicken. Need some chicken. Just saying. No, just print it out there.

SPEAKER_01

I'm we've got a printed off list of things that we have regularly. Yeah. So we just add bits and pieces to it. But recently I've added more stuff that I just pick up automatically, like like yoghurts and and things like that that are not on there, and so they did not arrive in the house this week.

SPEAKER_00

No, no. I had another thing. I know we've gone right off on a tangent here, but I had another thing where I asked for oranges to be bought, but those are for the pat lunches. So I need the satsuma ones that fit in the box, not the big oranges. No, it's the big oranges. I'm like, where are the satsumas? Oh, I got oranges, yeah. Anybody did he think you were supplying the oranges for the football team?

SPEAKER_01

Is that what he thought you were doing?

Grocery Gaffes And Household Logistics

SPEAKER_00

He said, just cut them up in segments. You know, the kid, you know what the kids are gonna think when they open up their pat lunch bottles a bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, anyway.

SPEAKER_00

What are we talking about today?

Pivot To Winter Olympics

SPEAKER_01

I thought I was gonna carry on to my shopping, I wasn't gonna complain about no raspberries, no strawberries. What's going on? Come on, Europe, sort your weather out. We need our fruit back. No, no. What are we talking about today?

SPEAKER_00

How about we talk about the Winter Olympics? Well, everybody's talking about it. It's only because I was just so fascinated by it. I absolutely loved it. There's some really random sports in the Winter Olympics, by the way. There there are.

SPEAKER_01

I was talking to somebody who went to Gothamberg. Okay, yeah. I think it's called Gothamberg. I just think of Batman every time somebody says that, and and I believe neither of them are related. And they went and they were, it was snowy, they'd gone and done some practice skiing, and then they were doing some shooting. And so the skiing and shooting thing as an Olympic sport.

Random Sports And Personal Ice Skating

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like the triathlon, but for for winter sports. For for for hunters.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, that is such a random thing to put together to ski and then shoot. Yeah. You thought about that?

SPEAKER_00

I know, I know, but it's really cool. Um, I was watching the ice skating because I got obsessed with this, and then when I was in Copenhagen recently, I actually did some ice skating because the place was frozen, so it was absolutely brilliant, and I had a newfound respect for what those skaters actually do. Spinning around, there was no spinning around. I couldn't even do the cross leg thing. I literally was if I managed to get round and I was upright, I was quite happy. Oh, you go, yeah, winning. Absolutely. Was it on a lake or something? What was it? It was actually in a park. It was so lovely. Yeah, it was really nice.

Curling Drama And Medal Emotions

SPEAKER_01

I love that. It's there's something very, I don't know, it's like something out of a fairy story, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

When you're it was like a magical winter wonderland when we were there. Anyway, I was saying to you that I'd been obsessed with the Winter Olympics, and something I'd noticed was the you could watch something like I was watching the the two guys doing the curling at our British guys. Again, a random sport. Yeah, but that looks really good fun, actually. But I mean, how did anybody even come up with that?

SPEAKER_02

Hmm.

Silver Versus Bronze Mindset

SPEAKER_00

Bowls on ice, it is, isn't it? Like bowls on ice. But I was watching them, and they were going for the gold medal, and they didn't get it, they got the silver, and it was a really close honestly, it was so close, it was brilliant, but they were devastated, absolutely devastated. They couldn't even speak in their interview, they were so devastated. And then I watched the girl who I can't think of her name now doing the aerial skiing, which was incredible, and she got a bronze medal, and she was so elated to get a bronze medal and I think I was just watching, thinking, wow, the difference between somebody who gets a silver and feels like they've failed versus someone who gets a bronze and feels like they've just achieved everything they ever wanted. Everything they've ever wanted, yeah.

Control The Controllables

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's really interesting, is it? And I'm I'm sure that people that are competing at this level, there is a lot of sports mindset work that goes into their training with respect to like imagining them winning and imagining how it's going to like how it's all gonna pan out. But I wonder if they actually add any of that sports psychology into like you know when you win, what place you win, or if you don't win, sort of how to how to deal with it. I guess these people are all very they are all highly competitive. That's the only only possible reason they have got to where they are now.

Bringing It Home To Daily Life

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I can relate to it because I am super competitive, as you know, but I always liked what Simone Biles said. So obviously, she not obviously because you might not know, but she is the most decorated gymnast of all time. Is she what she's achieved is incredible, but she always said that she can't control anything other than her own performance, yeah. So it doesn't matter if somebody does an amazing routine before her, she can only control what she does. And I was thinking about this with regards to the the two guys doing the curling. I don't think they could have done any more than they did, so they need to be happy because they can't control what the other people did, they can't no, and they can't control that the others have done it better, and they got a silver medal, yeah. So, yeah, it just got me thinking about in everyday life where do we see examples of this mindset where silver is failure? I mean, we do have that saying, don't we? Second place is is is the loser. Yeah, yeah. That's how we go about life, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well perhaps the Olympics needs the uh first the worst, second the best.

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Yeah.

Weight, Strength And The Scale Story

SPEAKER_01

Although the bronze medal may not want the hairy chest, yeah, exactly. That's I think what you've just said there actually is one of the key points, is that as long as you feel like you have done your your best and the bit that you're in control of, then you can't do you can't do any more. You can't ask any more of yourself. And if you genuinely feel like you've done the best and you get silver, then yeah, then you should. Oh, I'm gonna use the word should. I don't know, you know, I know that doesn't work, but you should like that word elated that you've you've got there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I was thinking about things like when you have that moment of why can't I get in the clothes that I used to get into when I was 26 years old versus being 46 years old or something like that? Yeah, why why do we look at the why do we look at it from that aspect rather than where we're at, what are we doing, what are we in control of, how are we progressing? Are we have we got other things going on? Are we stronger rather than lighter? Yeah. I was telling I had a comp big conversation yesterday with my client about their relationship with gravity. You know, I love that one.

Quitting Joy When You Can’t Be Best

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's really, it's really hard, isn't it? That we're and it's so interesting. We're pre-programmed definitely to that that lighter is better, which is a really it's a bizarre programming, to be fair. And we seem to be pre-programmed to really focus in on the negative stuff. Like you've like you've said, why do we not look at how much stronger we are as opposed to we don't fit into the size six clothes that we used to when we were what 16 or something? Yeah, and it's across the board. I wonder if that's is that a Western thing? I don't know whether that's the same like everywhere, if that's just a human thing or a western thing. But no, it is it's really interesting that we always we always go to the and it's usually just the one thing, isn't it? There could be a whole host of things that are absolutely amazing, and it'll be that one thing that ruins it.

SPEAKER_00

Ruins it all. Yeah. I was speaking to a friend at the weekend who was a really avid cyclist, but did races and things, was really, really good. And I haven't seen him for a while, like three or more years. And I said to him, What's how's the cycling going? He said, I don't do it anymore. I'd have I had some injuries, I had a few issues, and I haven't gone back to it. And he used to love it, it was his joy. And um, I said to him, What is that all about? And he said, Because I can't get back to where I was. So I'm not gonna do it at all.

SPEAKER_01

So is that like throwing the baby out with bath water?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and a little bit of a I felt really sad about it, but I can understand a bit because it is frustrating when you've been injured and you're going, I used to be able to do this and now I can't. But not to do it at all, and it was something that gave you joy, yeah.

Competition Without Pressure

SPEAKER_01

I thought especially when there's so many other aspects that you could do around cycling, it doesn't have to be competitive, you could be doing mountain parking.

SPEAKER_00

It did, it had to be competitive, otherwise, there was no point.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but there is, I mean, like you could you could literally just be out for out for a nice cycle, but you could be doing mountain biking. There's lots of um lots of like trails and all those sorts of things that are not competitive, but they're certainly exciting, terrify the life out of me. I'd be I'd be a nightmare. I'd be yeah, be on my arse most of the time, I think. Yeah, me, me too.

SPEAKER_00

Me too. But it was only a few weeks ago that I had a client that had bought a bike. If you remember we had that conversation about buying a bike and then realizing she sold it already. No, no, no. What yeah, why why have I waited 30, 40 years to get back on a bike? Something I used to love to this person who loved cycling, who now has said, no, I'm not gonna do that now because and and and said the classic one, you'll love this, Catherine. Said, I'm too out of shape to get on the bike. Oh, yes, yes.

Calm Brain Beats Tense Brain

SPEAKER_01

So you've got to wait to do it. You've got to wait until you're fit enough to to get on the exercise machinery. Yeah, yes, yes. I mean that makes complete sense. Not yes, Catherine. I'm not coming to your class because I'm not fit enough to do it. Yeah, let me at them. I know, that's really interesting. I don't have much oh, that's not true. I was gonna say I don't have much competitiveness in me. There is a little bit, but it's not it doesn't tend to come up in sports, I don't think. I mean truth. Everything but like with things like like park run, that obviously isn't necessarily a race, however, there is like a number one next to the fastest person, there's a list of people, um most of the time I arrive thinking I'm just gonna get round. And then and then as you're running, you're thinking, well, I'll just catch up with that person, or I'll just catch up with that person. Um but same with like triathlons, same with marathons. I don't, I mean, I don't know, I'm sure if I put the the like effort in to be a competitive, I don't know, runner, triathlete, then maybe I would. I just don't oh she can't be bothered.

Midlife Bodies And Acceptance

SPEAKER_00

Maybe that's what it is. That's really where I'm going. But it is really interesting because I've seen this with my daughter competing in the horse riding stuff, that she doesn't have any expectation or she's not competitive at all to get a rosette or a pla they call it a place in in horse riding world. She's not she doesn't go with that intention at all. She goes with the intention of being, she wants to make sure her horse is happy. Has my horse enjoyed this this moment? Have I has everyone been alright? Yeah, have I enjoyed the moment? And then when she gets a place in, she's just so she can't believe it. It's so cool. Whereas she's got a friend who goes with the intention of or even expectation that they're gonna win, yeah. And then in some cases, have come last, and then been in a foul mood, like that was a waste of time. What was a point, etc. And I had this experience last year when I was competing. You know, I did the trampolinian and I hadn't done that for six years, and I just thought I'll just train, I see how it goes, I'll turn up and do my routines. There was no level of expectation. I could not believe I came first. I was so shocked. But now going into this year, because I've already come first, it does put a little bit more pressure on you. It's interesting that if this year I don't get on the podium, yeah, whether that will I'll get that coming second feeling, yeah. Like the curling team, or whether I I get the the feeling from the other people that just went out and smashed what they could do and didn't even get on the podium. Yeah.

Enjoy The Journey, Not Just Arrival

SPEAKER_01

I think, but what you've said about gymnastics, when you're looking at everybody and you're cheering people on, and you can see when other people have done like really, really well, I get the impression that if somebody you think has done really, really well places higher than you, you'll be like, no, fair play. Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no, no question about it. The interesting thing about um your daughter and and the way that you came at that competition is that you are then working from the right part of the brain. It's like when you go into an exam, isn't it? And if you're there fretting and worrying, and oh my god, you're not working from the right part of the brain, and you've got to kind of breathe and relax and and kind of tap into that joy to be able to use the right part of the brain that that knows everything. You've like you've got all the information in there. You've for your gymnastics, you've you've done all the tumbles and turns and balances and and everything, and you've practiced them umpteen amounts of times. It's like the muscle memory is in there, the the like the knowledge of how to do it is in there, and so I think when you are calm and you come at it almost with no expectations other than to just really enjoy it and do the very best you can. I think that's the like the optimum place in your brain to be.

SPEAKER_00

I think you're right, but it's very hard to do that, it's so hard to do that, yeah. And there is always that that situation where when you have trained really hard and then it doesn't go to plan. I my coach used to always say, Come and Julie, don't win the warm-up. You don't want to win the warm-up, do you? You don't want to go up and do the best warm-up and then anyone else, and then be like, Yeah, I'll smash it and then mass up afterwards, yeah.

Perfection Stalls Progress

SPEAKER_01

Put it all into that. Exactly. That's and it's funny, and when it's interesting then that if you come at it kind of all head up, head up, and you've won the warm-up and you're like, Yeah, let's let's go, and then something goes wrong. My son's learning to drive at the moment, and so if he stalls the car, he gets he gets a bit angry with himself, he gets a bit frustrated with himself, and then it it continues to get worse, like his performance continues to get worse because he is kind of like and I'm like, just take a breath, son. Let's don't worry about the car behind you, you know. Let's just reset and off we go, and then you're okay. But it's that it's I mean, it's the age old take a breath, it is, it is, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, reset, yeah. So I was thinking how this connects to life, especially where we're at with you being in your 40s, me being in my 50s, and I think things are obviously changing from a body perspective, we can't just ignore that, but we can't beat ourselves up for it.

SPEAKER_01

What no, we can't, because we can't do very much about it unless you have a time machine.

SPEAKER_00

This is this is true. So I think what we should do is I've said should as well.

SPEAKER_01

That's not good, shouldn't all over ourselves today.

SPEAKER_00

Ah, yeah. I but I think our aim is to there you guys change that name that is to celebrate the progress rather than just the end result in something. Yeah, yeah.

Perspective On Narrow Margins

SPEAKER_01

This you just you just reminded me of a conversation I had with my husband once upon a time when we were about to start on a very long journey with three small children in the car, and I said, We are just going to enjoy the journey. Enjoy the journey, yeah. Good luck with that one. Three hours later on the M25. He reminded me very bravely of that uh of that speech I gave as we were just coming onto the M2, you know, travelling along all excited. But that is the aim, isn't it? Because the I the end the end destination is only a very, very small part of of everything that we do.

SPEAKER_00

And a lot of the time we think that when we get to that destination that we're gonna be happy and fulfilled. Yeah, absolutely. And yet, how many times do we see with something like the Olympics, the gold medalists, they got the gold medal, but then they had some kind of mental breakdown because they realized it didn't give them what they were hoping because it's you you can't just expect that to give you what's missing, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

And do you often people say, When I get there, and you're like, Where is there? Where is there? Where is there? And there moves and changes all of the time. It's a bit of a kind of a unicorn, isn't it? It just it's it doesn't really exist, it's just kind of there out in the it's so true, isn't it? Yeah, where is there? Where is there?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so if you're looking to release weight, you know, I don't like the word lose release weight, then set it free. Then it's better, it's better not to look at that number of your relationship with gravity, yeah, but it's better to look at how much stronger am I, how much fitter do I feel, and celebrate those things rather than what that number says on the scale. And you're quite right, you don't you don't want to focus on the there. What are you doing in the in the middle of it all?

Reframing Setbacks And Expectations

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely, because this is life, isn't it? What don't keep focusing on on the there that's in two months, three months, four months, whatever it is, because you're right here, right now. You've got to like live it. There's a song there.

SPEAKER_00

Right here.

SPEAKER_01

There's been so many songs today that I have I have just had to soak back into myself.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I just yeah, I think it's um I had this massive conversation about music with someone on the dog walk this morning, did you? Yeah, we were just talking randomly about music, and um yeah, it's it's such an music's such an important part of life, isn't it? Yeah, you saying about those songs, yeah, you just had a day of songs. Sometimes I wish that we could have like a day where we're in a musical and we just sing everything.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I would love that idea. Yeah, I wanted to break into let it go, let it go, when you were talking about releasing weight. Yeah, there's a there is a song for every single ch changes. Okay, stop now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there literally is lots, isn't there? So anyway, going back to this connection with the Olympics, I think do we celebrate pro do we celebrate progress or are we grieving perfection?

Dual Truth: Happy Now, Want More

SPEAKER_01

I mean, perfection, what's this saying? Perfection is the is it the death of progress or something like that? Yes, it is, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, you're yeah, I I know I I know that feeling when you're kind of you're almost frozen and you don't know like what to do because you're aiming for perfect, and so you end up doing absolutely nothing at all. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's yeah, perfection is a it's a real stopper of things actually it is and then measure how do we measure success I was just gonna say what is perfection to people because I mean your idea of perfection and my idea of perfection I bet are completely different so how do we meet yeah how do we measure that perfection according to whom yeah I mean if you think about measuring success in terms of the Olympics if you qualify to go to the Olympics hello exactly yeah for me that's winning absolutely that's why I like the Eddie the Eagle film oh and the cool runnings one for the winter Olympics because it didn't matter that it wasn't about getting on a podium for them was it no oh I just love it yeah it's and that and that is it's what is your level of expectation and I think part I'd say part of the winning mentality of the people that are up on the podium is that they expect them to be there and that's probably part of what's got them there. However I do worry that like for the guys that were not happy with silver is that you what else are you what hole are you trying to fill there? Like why are you not happy with where you've where you've got I mean you don't know maybe they think that that's their last go at it I mean how old can you be as a curler?

Diet Myths, Consistency And Health

SPEAKER_00

I don't know I know that they did go for gold that was their that was their intention yeah but like I said if if they'd messed up and they hadn't played as well as I mean I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not an expert or a coaching curling am I but you're watching it going they were really close and then the Canadians were just maybe they got lucky you couldn't really do any more it was just the Canadians can practice all the time out in the backyards yeah yeah like when I I was watching the the four men bob sleigh and uh apparently our British guys have been in the top three consistently around the world for three years and at the Olympics it just it apparently it didn't go to plan because they ended up seventh and they did look one of them was close to tears in the interview and said I don't know if I can do this anymore.

SPEAKER_01

I tell you what they were 0.3 seconds off of a medal uh hello 0.3 seconds perspective and you're and you're thinking it's a fate anyway I just want to think about how many times have people quit because it didn't look how they expected yeah there is so much here about about kind of accepting the journey accepting like where you land with it and that that is actually where you're meant to be I truly truly believe that there is a a reason for everything and so and even if we can't see what it is so for the I don't know for the um for the silver medallists maybe that's what they needed maybe that was the extra fire they needed underneath them for gold the next time do you know what I mean there's even if you can't see what the silver lining is if you even can't see the reason that this has happened and you've deemed whatever's happened as a bad outcome I think that there's there's always a like a good knock-on effect somewhere along in the future that you just can't see.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah you could be right although in their case they had got silver at the previous Olympics so they were going for the thing.

Bronze Joy Mindset And Daily Wins

SPEAKER_01

Well it clearly didn't give them enough fire in there but well I mean that's again I'm just gonna say it clearly didn't give them enough fire under the but something has just tipped the Canadians as a slightly better.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah just luck on the day just how it goes whatever but I honestly thought they couldn't have done any better so yeah I think we don't want to be just dismissing our improvement because it wasn't perfect.

SPEAKER_01

Because yeah because it didn't look like what we thought it should should look like there it is and this it was a reflection on um what Susie was saying about being happy with where you are right now and I think that that is I think that's so important and I think it's necessary to be able to build and go forward knowing that you can have both that you can be happy with where you are and that you can want more and you can want to be better. Yeah but I don't think that you can be better maybe be better and be happy if you have not got some sort of acceptance where you are now and I think that that relates to weight that relates to fitness that relates to sports that relates to everything.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah yeah yeah exactly so if you've been following a diet plan although we don't like the words diet let's say you've been more mindful about what you're eating but you've had a a day that was off it it doesn't mean that it's sort of you've ruined everything and it's all over just go back to what you were doing the next day or the next meal or whenever it is the same with exercise when you're working towards something and you feel like you're not getting there as fast as you wanted you're at the pace that you're supposed to be going at the moment and that's okay.

Change The Story And Celebrate

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely don't throw everything don't throw the baby out with bath water just because you've had one bad day or just because in your eyes it's not working I've got the bunny ears out that this this diet's not working that you've been doing for three days and you haven't lost anyway for three days do you know what I mean also the big thing to say about this is that when the it is about the journey so even if you are not even if it doesn't look like you think it should do ie you're not losing weight you are eating better for your body you're creating a better journey overall so don't give up any healthy eating plans just because they are not immediately having the uh the results that you're planning they're not getting you there quick enough I love that that is such an important message actually it's I think it often gets overlooked and people don't think about that but you're quite right when you do change what you're putting into your body even if the result that you're looking for is to release weight you've got to appreciate that what you're doing is having an impact on your immune system your heart health your digestion your skin it's your brain everything isn't it yeah yeah your longevity your vitality you are building a better stronger body that will say will stay better and stronger for longer so rather than in your later years you kind of you might be you know dragging your sorry arse through many many years but without good health as opposed to yeah being strong and vital for those in those in those older years.

Community Invite And Closing

SPEAKER_00

So I think this looking at this silver medal failure thing I think that if if a silver medal feels like failure because we were expecting a gold we definitely got to reframe things and think more about the lovely girl who got the bronze medal and was over the moon and approach it from that direction.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah and I think what you're really right in the what using the word reframe and we can all reframe everything because even like most of our memories we have distorted them or we've generalized them they're not like what we remember is not necessarily how it happened it's just the way that our that our brain has stored it and and then it ends up as a bit of a story anyway so if the story doesn't suit like making you feel better change the story you know change the way you look at something so that it suits you reframe it and and yeah and move move on yeah move on do you know what I posted on my social media the other day about no no one can change can make the change for you only you can do it yourself. So you're quite right if the story isn't right change the story change the story you're in charge of it yeah I love that well so good luck for your uh for your podium finishes everybody in whatever whatever it is and just yeah celebrate the heck out of what of your achievements absolutely yeah and then we can find those every day can't we mm and then come and tell us about them in the far too fabulous Facebook group. Yes please we would love to uh continue the conversation there yeah absolutely see you next time thank you so much for joining us today we love creating this for you we'll be back next week with another great episode until then we'd be beyond grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and leave us a glowing review.

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