A Fulfilling Yoga Practice, A Master Teacher, and A Cup of Nourishment with Tara Kephart

In this episode I talk with Tara Kephart, a multifaceted yoga instructor and wellness advocate. The discussion explores Becca's personal health challenges, the transformative power of yoga, and practical approaches to health and vitality. Tara shares her unique philosophy on teaching yoga, underlining the significance of creating an inviting atmosphere for both the masculine and feminine experiences. They discuss the importance of ancient wisdom, the art of surrender within yoga, and integrating practical tools like bone broth and infrared saunas into daily wellness routines. This episode is packed with insights on embracing ancient practices for modern health, empowering listeners to take proactive steps in their journey toward better health and fulfillment.

00:00 Welcome to the Podcast: A Journey of Health and Vitality

00:00 Special Guest Episode: The Magic of Yoga with Tara Capehart

02:51 Creating a Unique Yoga Experience: Insights from Tara

32:51 The Power of Intentional Touch in Yoga

38:26 Embracing Self-Care and Wellness

38:44 Journey Through Autoimmune Challenges and Lyme Disease

39:55 Exploring the GAPS Diet and Its Impact

41:15 The Healing Power of Bone Broth

41:43 Deep Dive into Bone Broth Preparation and Benefits

45:44 The Importance of Sourcing and Respecting Food

01:01:08 Exploring the Benefits of Infrared Saunas

01:06:37 Ancient Wisdom for Modern Wellness

01:09:42 Upcoming Yoga Techniques Class Announcement

01:11:59 Reflections and Takeaways

Tara’s bone broth recipe:

Whatever animal you choose to use (chicken, turkey, fish, cow, etc), use everything from the carcass that you can except the guts. Use the bones, skin, feet, collagen-containing joints, eyes, organs, et.  If there is still meat on the bones you can take it off before you put it in the pot, or remove the meat when it is fully cooked. 

Put it in the slow cooker, add clean water to completely cover the carcass. Add 2 TBSP apple cider vinegar, then add desired spices . She suggests some ginger, turmeric (remember to add some red pepper with it so you feel more of the turmeric benefits), salt, pepper, etc. 

Brew for 48 hours. Check that carcass remains covered and add water as needed throughout. 

Let cool and refrigerate, enjoy a glass at a time. 

She referenced Circle C Ranch as a source of the clean meat and carcass that she uses. Find them here:  https://www.facebook.com/people/Circle-C-Ranch-Utah/100093438452367/

Transcript

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Hello and welcome to the What Really Makes a Difference podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Becca Whittaker. I've been a doctor of natural health care for over 20 years and a professional speaker on health and vitality, but everything I thought I knew about health was tested when my own health hit a landslide and I became a very sick patient. I've learned that showing up for our own health and vitality is a step by step journey that we take for the rest of our lives. And this podcast is about sharing some of the things that really make a difference on that journey with you. So grab your explorer's hat while we get ready to check out today's topic. My incredible guest network and I will be sharing some practical tools, current science and ancient wisdom that we all need, no matter what stage we are at in our health and vitality. I've already got my hat on and my hand out, so let's dive in and we can all start walking each other home. Hello. I had such a good time recording this episode with Tara Capehart. We actually got to meet at my house and hang out in my room and just stick a microphone between us. I invited her onto the show because she has so much good to say. I found Tara kept part as an instructor of one of the best yoga classes that I have ever been to. I just went every time that I could and tried not to miss it. There is something different about how she teaches. About how she sets up the flow. Of the moves and about. Just the general presence that she has, that is so inviting to both the masculine and feminine experience in that yoga space. It's just one of those cool classes that once you find. You both want to tell people about, and don't want to tell anybody else about.. So there will still be a space for you when you show up. She is certified in Hatha, yoga, yin yoga. She's a certified mini yoga instructor and a myofascial release practitioner. And she specializes in creating intentional flows and doing arm balances. She has done work with circus type movements. She just gets body movement. When she showed up, she also had some bone broth with her and I took the opportunity to break down with you how she creates that bone broth, because it is delicious and so nutritious for you. And we just talk about a lot of things. Exercise, ancient wisdom. And basically the daily choices that we make to strengthen our spiritual or physical connection. And why that leads to a more purposeful and a more fulfilling life. So let's get to it. Here is one of my favorite people. Tara kep heart. Okay. We have a treat for you today. And that is that I am meeting in person. With my podcast guests. So we're sitting across from each other in my coziest room, in my house. Well, so intimate. Welcome to our conversation. I am here with Tara Kephart, who I know I've already introduced you to, but Tara. I am just, I'm so grateful to be here with you. This is what I'll stop talking in the third person. And I'll just talk to you. Okay. So the reason I brought you on. Is you've been on my mind for so long to talk to because there's just something different about you. So I enjoy doing yoga, but yoga was sometimes honestly, a vehicle for self judgment. Or for self criticism. Or even frustration, like if the teacher is some like Uber healthy, young, 21 year old, that's like, hi guys. We're going to do some relaxing today that I'm like, That's great for some cup of tea, but if I was in a place where I was really looking for some deep inner connection, And I came to a yoga class looking for that, then that is not where I was finding it. And then I found your class. So the class I joined was Sunday morning, yoga. I walked in, the lights were low. You had candles spread throughout. Think they were led candles. Yeah. Yeah. So less risk. But Kendall spread throughout. And as I watched people come in, you could feel something different as you walked in. And the music was preparing you basically to go internal. There were still beautiful people practicing. I now have learned to your fiance was one of the beautiful men practicing in the front. very athletic body, but there were men and there were women and everyone walked in and it was like, as you come into that space, that. Lists. The self-judgment the frustration. It slides off. I didn't really care. What other top, the lady next to me was wearing or where she got it or how much it was. What I felt was deeply into myself and my own space. And by the end of the Shavasana or the final pose, I just thought what. What has just happened here. It's sacred. And that meant I would try to get there as often as I could. So I want to thank you for what you do. For the people in your class, in that realm, but mostly just, I mean, for the world, right? Any spaces that are smaller like that or bigger. But that are smaller like that, where there's a place where people can come and really. Drop the bull crap and just settled in there is extreme value in that. So this is how I get to thank you. Oh. Thank you for him on a more public stage. So sweet. Thank you. So I'm wondering how you came to practice yoga that way, because it's different. There's such permission. There's. Like I said men and women, but I've been in a lot of yoga classes. They're mostly women most of the time. Yeah. But there is just permission for the masculine, for the feminine. There's just a place to be and drop it. And I know that does not come without a personal story. So will you tell me how you found yoga? And I am just as guided to hear it as well, because I don't know the story. Well, great. Thank you so much for having me. The feeling is mutual. Definitely have something. Unique and beautiful. About you. And you, I just knew when you walked into the room that, you know, we were meant to be in each other's space and each other's energy fields. And. That you were there for a purpose and thank you. And then I was there for a purpose. So that means a lot to me. So, thank you. Very much. I do love connections. Because that person, this is one of my PMO. I feel like there are no coincidences that right. You know where we are. In the places where we need to be at. At that exact time. The feeling the whatever, if it's a smell or, you know, lighting or whatever, sensory, you know, Yep. Stimulation we can bring into it or lack of. So thank you. Yeah. So I got started. I mean, it's a long story. But I will condense it. But I got. I got started. I was always fascinated even as a child with the mystical. Wrong. And it's entirety and I don't really know. How. To tap into it. I grew up. LDS. So I did not know that. Yeah. So for listeners who are not based in Utah, that's the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints or Mormons. That is also how I grew. So. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So there was not a whole lot of exploration nor, invitation to explore. Other parts of, you know, whether it's spirituality or tapping into. You know, deeper parts of. Mindfulness or the brain outside of the construct of religion. For me, that's my experience. And I've found that lots of times in religion, not just the one we grew up in, but lots of times. Lots of different ones. It's like, there's kind of a circling the wagons. Like we talk this way. We think about this. We don't think about this. We ask questions about this. We don't ask questions about this. It's one of the most fascinating social experiment places. I think I can be. Yeah. And in that religion, I think it's especially interesting that a lot of it came from. Mysticism question asking what the roots of it are. Absolutely. What is different? What is out there, but then, you know, Please get ahold of things. We make our rules and in transition that mysticism. Or, you know, and I mean, I was a child, so it was kind of lost, but like I knew, like I felt I was deeper connected, like, felt like I needed to. You know, Ask questions. I've always been a question. Ask her and just really seeking, you know, like more like deeper, but like at that like energetic level, Not just like what is in textbooks or okay. You know, it's more like it really became like more of like a feeling. So yes. Did I feel the spirit often? Absolutely. But I had to ask questions and seek outside in deeper. And so I did this. Experiment and as a childhood on yoga and meditation. Yeah, the child has a child. As a child, I. I think I was like, maybe in S. Yeah. I don't even know if it's sixth grade. You're so cautious. It was that I was so long ago. At Darren wrote mine while she was healing. She had. A lot of things happen in her life. And while she was healing, she actually became certified to teach it to kids in the schools. Like here in Southern Utah. And I thought, yes. I've been there that. There I've I'm certified to teach children. I thought that that was my direction and I'm kind of veered away from that. But yes. That's part of my journey as well, the body has always been very like interesting to me as far as like the way that we can move and the way that we connect for me, like yoga is just it's movement. Yes. There's philosophy and there's there's, you know, ancient history. But for me it's always just been like, how can I move and how can I feel as deep as possible. That movement within, within. Not what I look like without the outsider in the mirror, but like how, like, can I take it internal? And so please, can I just add my resounding yes. So I'm also fascinating with Bob. Fascinating Tara. Yeah. No, you are. Ted. Oh, speak English here. Fascinated with how the body moves. But I think for so much of my life, I pushed and demanded. And it was like how my body moves. I don't know. You better. Right. Yeah. And whoa that You can call it mindfulness because it was being aware. But what is like the magic of actually being inside your body, like paying attention to what actually feels like? Yeah. That's one thing that having the extreme illness gave me is that now when I move, when I flex, like I can begin to exercise again. I was actually just. Barely being able to move your class was one of the first I went to, I had tried some other yoga classes. Not, not very many actual classes because I had just worked up to doing like 15 minutes in my house. And then 25 minutes in my house, I think it was at 25 minutes when I made the big leap to go to your class. Thinking if this instructor pushes hard, I will just do half. And then I will lay on my I'll come. The map while everyone else figures it out. But what it has given me. As I've healed is that I appreciate being inside here so much. Like what a muscle flex really feels like or what it feels like to climb the stairs when you're actually flexing your glutes. And when you're actually like moving all of your toes and pushing off. From your toes. There's just so much to pay attention to so much and so much that is. Incredible. It's. We really are. Our bodies are miracles. Yeah. And maybe that's one of the first secrets of what's different about your, about being in a class with you is that you're invited to go in with the lights lower and the candles there. You weren't judging. The other people next to you. That's like comparing mind, just feeling. Yeah. I love that. And I, I mean so, you know, Going back to how I started. I really. So. I've always been interested as a child. And movement and the human body and mysticism and how we. Came about really, really, it was like a deeper question of like, oh, why. Why, why am I here? What is my purpose? You know, all the things that most of us ask ourselves or ask. Universe or our source or God. And it really like when I was able to hone in on. Like the going inside. It was really scary.'cause I wasn't really taught that. I was like, you know, like do what you're told. Be nice. Follow the rules that are already established for you. Trust other Peachtree. And like yourself, because you can be deceived. You put your, put your, you know, your, your. All of your. Bodies elements. If they're. You know, when they come up in somebody else's hands to give you the answers. And, and you know, I went through my, I went through., Diagnosis for auto-immunity. You know, and but that was, that was, you know, later on, that was about 10 years ago. In my. My past my journey. I got really interested in. More like working out. And more of like the fitness part, right. Like, I, I I know you can't see Tara, but she's built. Beautiful kind of belts. Feminine sort of strong belts. So she's not kidding about that. And S so that was, you know, I, I really focused on fitness and. And I want it to sculpt my body in the best way. And I, you know, I, I Aye. Got my certification for a personal trainer. And it just, it really didn't resonate with me. To be a personal trainer in the realm of what was available at the time for a blank. LVA like lived in Las Vegas. It was like the big fitness gyms, like LVC and Gold's gym. And what did you not like about that? Or what were you looking for? That was different than that? I think it was the interoception. The inner work, you know, and there is a lot of inner work in that, but it just wasn't. It wasn't it. Wasn't what I needed. Well, it wasn't for me. I guess that question I'm asking is because I also know a lot of people trying to exercise right. Training. And to like, make a difference for themselves in their lives. But when they go to the gym, if it kind of feels like the dog and pony show, Yeah. Or does it feel like the right environment then? What are you supposed to do? If you don't have a home gym? Right. Yeah. So, I mean, what would you be looking for in an, in an environment that you yourself would have passed on or that you would advise to look for? Well, I was very much still in this like external validated. State. And work. I mean, it was, this is when I was like late teens, early twenties. So I really hadn't like, like I knew that there was something else, like yoga that I needed in my life or the, you know, the going internal. I just hadn't gotten there yet. So even though I was very interested in it and very, you know, life happens teenage years, all of that, like, you know, high school and like just trying to fit in and be cool and have a tribe. And so a lot of that got, you know, Like I kind of like skipped over some stuff. Right. You know, right. So then personal training came in. I, you know, was interested in like, I was like, well, maybe I can be a personal trainer, you know? And. And so my CPT and then, you know, that I really just didn't didn't feel like that was it for me. Got it. So So, and this is just. Kind of a long and drawn out story, but but really how I came to. Find the inner work. For myself and the way that I think that has influenced my teaching style to this point. Is years and years and years of that, the battle going back and forth between the inner and the outer and the inner and outer. And that's just something that. You know, We all I believe. I mean, we are human. We want. We want to look good. We want to feel good. And we want to be the best. I don't know. And so, and so but really what, what got me into back coming back around in yoga is a. Solid Bikram yoga practice. Okay. Which is a set series of 26 postures and two breathing exercises down twice through the same ones. Yeah. Okay. It's a 90 minute practice. It was like almost, I think it's like the first. Yoga philosophy and the first modality that incorporated heat and humidity. Into the room. And yeah, so this is big girl. Okay. And so I got hired there. I'm going to pause you because I don't know the specifics. I know, I've heard lots of different kinds of so many. So there are so many. Kundalini, all those stuffs. So basically you just find one that resonates well with you. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that it really, you know, there's. Benefit. And a connection. That. Everyone. I do believe confined. Somehow. In each. And that's why there are so many modalities, right? Yeah. And for me, like the big room was the perfect marriage of strength. And surrender. Okay. So and I was, I, you know, I. I was solid in a Bikram practice for oh. While I don't know how many years, but that's really how I got started was my connection to that practice. And for me, it was. Space and time for me to show up. It was a set series. So I really could like leave all of the chaos outside world and then come into something that was new and FA or sorry. Familiar and I knew I could control. With my body. The actual practice in my expressions of the poses. And so that really is how that, that was my foundation. And then I, so I am going to interrupt you. Okay. To add though, to add. So that's another key I'm seeing of what may perhaps makes your class different. So you do poses that I have never seen or done before. But stretch around beautiful places like my hip flexors and under my shoulder blades. Thank you. No. Thank you. Thank you. Sweet Tara. Definitely to not create those. Thank you for teaching. But I know I did notice we do a lot of the same things that I thought it was interesting. Like this is the most diverse. But also I can. I'm not surprised when the next thing happens, but I find that so relaxing for my brain, which surprised me. Yeah. Because I usually am like, oh, come on, show me a new thing. Not in your class and your class. It was comforting. So, I guess. That's also points towards. If you're trying to do a yoga practice at your home or something like that, just pick some poses. Maybe do them. My assistant I'm sure B Crum has a, has a flow that suggests. Yeah, but it doesn't mean you have to know the whole book of all the yoga poses, right. I'm saying. Yeah. Like having to interview to repeat and then release your brain from having to come up with a new creative thing and focus on being in your body and doing those poses. Yeah. I mean, that's enough. It. It's a lot. It was effective for me because like I said, every modality has its benefits has its magic. But for me the set series it, it's how I actually formulated my class that I taught on Sundays. But I took it down way down. So Vikrum is a very power. It's it's. Eh, it's so difficult to explain, but all of the poses. Are in sequence created. To build a practice and to move into the next pose. Okay, so, and you do them twice. Repeatedly. One is like Practice round. The second one is like a F you know, full out. Or, you know, you take it and. If you. The repair, the repetition, the consistency. The discipline. That was really, really what I needed at that time when I was, you know, in the infancy of my practice. And what I'm saying practice by literally like in the group setting at a studio. Yeah. So that became just. Really. It was like it was, it was my home, like my home away from home. You know it was my comfort. It was my, you know, but, but my comfort, and then I was able to be vulnerable in that setting, you know, which also. Yoga brings a lot of vulnerability out. I was able to surrender, like there were so many things that I was able to bring into my practice that I needed for myself. And then built on that. So but you talk about vulnerability. And surrender. And that's like the opposite. Of what so many people I know experience when they first come and you're doing the pretty pretty look at each other thing, right. Yeah, vulnerability and surrender. So when you're talking about that, what does yoga. Bring out in you or how do you experience vulnerability and surrender when you are. Doing the poses and you're in that home space. Well in a vulnerable state, we, I mean, it's scary. It's. Wading through the shit. The depths of like our shadow or solar, our inner child, or whatever you want to, whatever. We're jargon or. Description right. And that. A lot of us who are seeking individuals. I have to go through and that vulnerability is what brings the magic to inside. And that's, I mean, it is the inner work. It's not. The external stuff and yeah, there. You know, they are, you. The inner. There's no way to. Do the inner work, no matter what, whether it's yoga. You know, meditation somatic practice or. Anything hiking even, or like outdoor activity. If there's a vulnerability that we have to. Tap into. Yeah. To say and give ourselves that gift. Yeah. The vulnerability, the gifts are in our vulnerability. In what we can or can't do, or, but it's really like, How can I be vulnerable? To be open. All right. It's a step to be open. To then learning to then, you know, tapping into our. You know, our nervous system, your parasympathetic nervous system. And without the vulnerability. I really, I mean, it's, that's, that's the key. That's the magic is the vulnerable. Spaces, because it is, it's scary to walk into that yoga room. Yeah. And not know it's the unknown, what you're into, especially for new students or, you know, people who are feel like they're. They live with their heart on their sleeves, or, you know Yeah, it's a space. It's that vulnerability that, that really is able to. Ha like open the space for us to tap into the magic or the mystical or. I love how you talk about that, Tara. I think a big part of that is also the curiosity. Yeah. So the vulnerability that it takes to walk into class. Your mat down, look at everybody else. Right? Wonder. Wow. Yeah. The fall, what am I going to? Yeah. You know, it's the curiosity I think to go inside when we're inside our bodies, it's not like that's always a pleasant experience. There's a lot of reasons. It's we distress. A lot of times. Yeah. I think in a yoga practice, like you practice your body is doing something like, so your brain has something to think about, but there's always a few points in a class, in a good class where I am tuning in more than just thinking about where my foot or my knee needs. Totally. And then tuning in. That's the curiosity and the vulnerability. That's like, what is here? Why do I feel like I am just shaking? It's not muscles. Why is my nervous system? Shaking or why am I screaming inside? Why am I crying inside? And listening. Without judgment. Like it's like anything you can go into place and constantly judge what's coming up where you can go in a place. And I have, I know when I'm in yoga, At that hour. Is my curiosity time. Like, it's my, what is actually here. And sometimes that does just. Leak out my eyes. When it's totally. I think that you know, no matter, no matter what, I mean, I have reverence for every single modality in practice. I, I. You know, it's, I mean, Doing it is. Key and it's not easy and it takes a lot of courage. Regardless of if you're teaching a class, if it's your first class, if it's your a hundred class or a thousand class, or if you're a student and we're all, we've all been on both sides in some place or time. In our life, regardless of what that space is But I think. Yes, the curiosity. Walking into a space where you know, you. Talk about it being dark. And the low light, and it allows you to go more inside there, modalities that are like lights on no music, silence, you know, and there's a. I mean, some people absolutely love that. That is what they need. They need to be able to look themselves in the eyes. And they're like, oh, where are you? Or, you know, whatever. They need to be able to see themselves in the mirror. They hate mirrors. Like there's no like right or wrong and there's no one size fits all. And that's why there are so many possibilities out there. And we. Have to believe that we are guided. To go to the places that we need. Even if we hate it. We know that we're not going to go back and we're going to try something else or whatever, whatever it is. But but that going deep inside that like darkness. That like I even sometimes like will pull my beanie over my house. I know I'm sexually. My energy, like I'm like for sure. Protect my crown. I purchased like beautiful. Just pull her pink. Beanie over. That was wonderful. So whatever it is that we need. I feel like we, we will find it. And and for me, like I found what I needed and then I was. Able to kind of build everything that I really loved and needed together. And that's how I formulated. My Sunday class. To share their question for you. The I have never been in a class with such a near even balance. Of. Males and females. I mean, I've been in your class. It's a big, it's a big studio, but where there was like, I mean, your ma is so close to the next person and the next and the next. And it doesn't, those are still in there. Cities where there's. Yeah. Yeah. That's still nearly half men. So I'm wondering if you even know, and maybe you don't know. I'm wondering what. How it is that you offer permission, especially to the masculine there, because I've seen people offer permission to feminine. But yeah, permission is not often granted for masculine to like slow down. Be held hold themselves, especially in the presence of other women were beautiful or distracting or whatever, but something, there is something different. In the air. So. I don't know. Have you experienced sometimes that men are. Not individually, but as a, as a generalized collective. Seem to not. Feel as comfortable or as much permission. And they go in like my my husband would often come in with me and he's typically the only man in the room. So when I went and I came back, I was like, Hey, there were like seven men. You should come. Yeah. If you even know what that is, permission is. Yeah. I mean, I am. I think that. As a collective it's really difficult to I would say, answer that question as a whole. All right. So I'll just bring it back into the room. And the space. And the class that I created and kind of like the Y. And I, why I feel like there, I think this is a much bigger. Yeah, question. As far as like just to toss out something easy to. Like, you know, I, I do believe that there is a kind of attack on a. There's been an attack on masculinity. Yeah. And and this. Dates back. You know, I mean, you can go through time and you know, how. The masculine. Whatever the, the hijacking of. W whatever it is that we feel masculinity in bodies, I think of like divine masculinity versus the like yeah. So. Yeah fall. So there are right. And there are spaces that are very, very safe. For the masculine expression. The feminine expression. Which we all have both. Yeah. What I specifically. You know, when I was creating my class, that, that specific class, and it is very specific. That class was too. Create a feminine. Flow. That was more and by feminine, I mean like fluid and there are a lot of like rules of the spine and there's really like tapping into the chakra system. And then creating the space. That's a little bit more like, you know I would say like inner darkness, C you know, like. So more feminine. Flow creativity unknown. Right? Yes. Yes. But there were also a lot of aspects of strength and core and you know, Pulling R S the tightening into. I hate the thing, not tightening, but like pulling our energy, like focusing our energy into like different areas, say like the root chakra or, you know, And I built the class based on the spine, which is the house. The home of the chakra system. And then so feminine movement. A little bit of a set series that. People could do. The students could do with their eyes closed even. Even if they wanted to. And it became, and then it became more of like a fluid movement. And then. You know, expressions in the body. Once you kind of get through like some of the set. Set series or get to know it. I created it so that people could do it in their home. They come consistently. Every week or, you know, and they kind of, it becomes muscle memory takes over and they can sit in their space and do it in their home, or kind of tap into that. I incorporate hands-on. I think that that has a lot to do. With. The balance between the masculine and the feminine. And, you know I will be very open and. I'm, you know, I will. Talk to him and make sure that this is appropriate and then you can edit it out of it's not, but my fiance. You know, he started coming to my classroom. And he he opened up to me. And said that was, I never felt touched like that before. Yeah. And it was, it was it's simple, you know that. Yeah. It's not pushing, it's not manipulating. Not doing anything. There's just I, I feel very deeply connected to the students that make it into the class. And those who are okay with me. Allow, you know, and allow that hands-on experience and that exchange of physical touch and energy, even if it's just a, you know, Just like a movement along their spine. Or, you know, even just walking up and pressing my hands on their back, you know, in child's pose. I feel like, which is a very vulnerable position. Yeah. That. That was why. It's all the evolution of the class and the structure of the class. And so that is, I feel maybe why. There's such a great balance between the masculine and the feminine who make it into the room. Because that's the way that I created the class was to be. To tap into both the divine masculine and the divine feminine parts of our body. Our mind. And adding the physical touch. I think helps. I love that so much, Tara, so, and you're right about touch. I think there's so much about touch that we eat either, either. Yes. Yes. He is done poorly. Or overwhelmingly, like I remember. When I had four kids. Right. I mean just, I was constantly being touched and pulled on when they were little like, oh my gosh, my body does not even belong to me. But, but it's beautiful days, beautiful days, of course. But I feel that same way about touch when it is intentional. And it's healing. That is how I touch people when I'm working them, working on them at the clinic. It's not just another, like another thing ramming your body and other like bony finger shoving on your spine. Or in yoga sometimes touches done by teachers. Can be like, do this, do this. Right. Push that harder. Sit in deeper. Hold it. Yeah. But, but other times it can be like, Hey. Let me offer support right here. I know that you can slide in a little bit. Further. If you have a little help. And I think, I mean, that's, that's humanity. Totally one touches respectful. I'm not surprised at all that he said, I have not felt touched like that before. I'm sad. That was his first. You know, one of his first exposures, maybe. But there is such a difference. I understand exactly. Well, and I, I believe that what is meant when people say those things is in the moment in the present. Yeah. That we have such an energetic. Response. And onside. Yeah. To physical touch, even if it's just like a hand on the shoulder from somebody who deeply. Cares about. People. Yeah. Good. The. You know, Infinite intelligence. I don't know how to explain it, but, but the intention and the intention is everything. Yeah. And I really truly believe that that is felt through physical touch and you can sense someone's intention. You know of care of compassion of. Gentle. Just being yeah. Instead of like doing like just a, just a state. Through touch. And that's why it was so important for me to incorporate the hands-on experience, even though it's a very, very, I mean, it's with permission. But it doesn't have to be jarring. It's not a, you know, like it, it's a very gentle way of. Of connecting and really that's. Yeah, that was why. A lot of my why for that class specifically. And I, you know, Been consistently teaching that class around. Cedar for. Five and a half years. I just, I just now took a break. Yeah. You know that. Yeah. But but yeah, anyways, I'm thinking to myself. How fascinating it is that we have gifts to share. Right. All of us. I'd love to share 100%. There's just different stages that we can share it on because I'm really grateful you became a yoga teacher and all the other things that you do that we'll talk about. But so because I need to do there, but you would have been one hell of a thumping, good massage therapist or chiropractor. I've actually both. I'm like how. How many years do I have. Can I just, can I make this happen? You know Yeah. I mean, we just all have our stage, right? Well, For some reason. Yeah. Okay. I want to shift gears a little bit. Because you came in with this delicious bone broth. It's so good. I knew that we have a dream. Oh, amazing. So. So. As you were talking You said earlier a phrase that you're about putting the care for your body in your own hands. And I think that's just an excellent theme for our conversation. Yeah. So I know you've put some care for your body in your own hands, other ways. You have an auto have, I don't know if you have, or have had, or auto-immune disease, but are caring for your body in a way where you're kind of needing to like re correct, like correct or retrain it. And I know you have some cool modalities to do that, that I'm wondering if your show or share with my audience. Yeah, absolutely. So bone broth, when I I'm trying to remember how long it was ago. It was years ago. It was when I had my first round with which I know now. Was intense Lyme disease, but I didn't know I had that then. I had just, I had been on bed rest with my second pregnancy. It was like ridiculous, bad. And when I got up from bed rest, I had massive problems in my intestines. I had not experienced that before all food was giving me crazy inflammation. It was on a very specialized diet. I was also juicing only I was doing whatever I could thinking. If I can get the inflammation down. I can keep working. I can be a mom. I have this like new tiny baby. Cause it started like, I mean it started while I was pregnant with them and she was coming out. So. I tried all kinds of things. And as the kid, as I had another child, it worsened. So I started doing things like the gaps, diet. Which is, I think it stands for gut and psychology syndrome. So she's talking about how, what we put in our intestines can affect us psychologically. And at first that might sound a little strange, but if you think about it, like when we take alcohol into our gut, that affects our brain, right? I mean, it's this. Chemistry in our gut affects our BrainPOP street. So she talked about linking it to schizophrenia, linking it all to all kinds of behavioral trouble. And, but it was such a fantastic book. I wish it would have been a textbook for gut function in my graduate school. I mean, she explains it so well. So if anybody wants to like super nerd out on gut function, Yeah, I will save your time in textbooks. Just go read gut and psychology syndrome. But she talks about what the, how important the lining of the gut is and what we do to limit the inflammation by what we are eating. So I started. To do her protocol, which is very stringent. It's like, no. Any of the crap. And it's pro. By crap. I mean like no sugar. No. Yeah, I know that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very familiar with the gaps diet. Okay. Perfect. So I'm sorry to over. Explain to you. I know. Great. I'm so glad we're on the same page. So then I started fermenting my own food and I started doing a lot of bone broth, but I kind of moved out of that as I transition. And into a different help stage. I want, I smelled your bone broth this morning. It's like inner part of me that just wanted to like, per that, like. happy sound means that we need to do some. So I listened to how you prepare it. Oh. And it's just beautiful. So I'm wondering if you will share your experience of why you started with bone broth. How you prepare it and some tips and tricks for why people would even want to partake or what it does for you. Yeah. So bone Roth is full. Of the nutrients specifically. Collagen fats, proteins, amino acids. from the animals, bones and tissues. Oregon's marrow, whatever you want to add into it. Minus the meat. Of course I eat the meat. Or but and it, what it does is it fills. It helps to line. Or fill in, I would say over time, obviously. Gaps within the gut lining. Then. Oh, if you do have, you know, leaky gut or, and I know he was. You know, If leaky got, could be any like IBS you know, you could have any auto yeah. Auto-immune histamine reactions. Allergies to insult yeah. Insulin or leptin resistant. You know, there's so many different ways. It's like things. And I, this is really my jam because I love. Incorporating gun. Yes. Wellness as a whole into my lifestyle. Like, it's basically just what I do now, because it's really has been a 10 year. Shift. Of my life, like completely, you know, transformed everything I do, but the bone broth. Why I drink bone broth every day is because. Well, almost every day, obviously I'm, you know, I have moments I'm traveling or whatever, and can't get to it. But is. It is so warming, especially in the winter months. I have, it has successfully been my morning brew. My ritual, that coffee used to be. I have since given up caffeine. As much as, as, as much as possible. I still have like a little sip of Jefferson's coffee in the morning. But every once in a while, or, you know, stop and get coffee. And, but now I can, I drink decaf. But bone broth really it's. It helps. It's that nourishing like warm hug in the morning that I feel does me such a like service. Right in the morning and then throughout the day. And I know that it's. I even, I roll into yoga class with a cup of bone broth. I don't even yet. Water. Like, I'm just like bone broth. I love what you said about it's nourishing you so much of what we eat, I think goes into our mouth. If we aren't mindful about it. Right. No. Yeah, because it's convenient or because it tastes good on their tongue and then the rest of the way down. It's awful. Yeah. The oils kill our energy and ourselves, the sugar feeds the bacteria that were fine. Trying to fight. Yeah, I just I'm astounded at, at sometimes my own behavior, other people's, you know, like just what we're trained to do that food symbolizes in our culture. Yeah. And I understand that food is a social thing and it's fun to go get a fun thing when you're together. I'm not knocking on that, but. How, what a relief and a joy it is when we find foods that actually. Pay us back, but like nourish us and that feel good and taste good. And I'm, that's one thing I will praise the internet for forever is that we have. Access to. How to prepare foods. So they taste better and nourishes or where we can get this kind or this kind of, you get your well, tell me how you prepare the bone broth. You get your parts. And pieces that you do from specific places because of reasons, specific reasons. Yeah. Aye. Aye. You know, I've try and stay as local as possible. For our meat sources. And whether, you know, And all I'm open to all foods. I don't cut anything out specifically. I try and get in. What's best for me and what I know. Aye. You know, feels good. I want to feel, yeah. Good. It gets working for me. I am feeling it and I am. You know, and I have an, I can bring that state of healing once I'm feeling. So yeah, like as local as possible. For our meat sources and that includes the bones. So we, I go local to. Want me to. Dolch. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Let's circle C ranch is where we get our. Chicken. Most of our beef, we will sometimes go to dry lakes in Parallon bar 10. Which is a local source as well for grass fed grass finished beef. And then, you know, circle C ranch. We get Turkey. From her, she goes wild Turkey. She raised it like. The has become like my go-to for meat. And so I take. Everything that we don't eat. You know, meet sourced or I take everything and I do believe in a nose to tail of her church. However, we can incorporate that into our. You know, our, our diet or lifestyle. I, you know, we don't raise our own animals, so I feel like that's the best way that I can respect that animal. Yeah. It's to tell for those who are not familiar with it, phrase is just you don't waste. It's not like you're bringing a whole animal and then just eating a tiny part of the breast. For example. Yeah. And there are so many nutrients in all of it. Organs. Bones, the marrow, the. I had to put fish eyeballs in this stew. I remember like we would, we were camping and she talks about the nutrients that are in fish, brain and fish. I've also, I remember what I asked my husband, like. When you bring them back. I need everything. I just need everything. Take the guts out. I'll do everything else. And I thought to myself, why did I open this pot? There really are going to be fish. Flowing around. Like, I don't know if I am that witchy yet. Like, This is my home. Yeah, the eyeballs just to freak me out, but which one for him, which. But no, I strained it all. It was fascinating too. Here, what is in the different organs? Wow. What does it allow? I. We spend all this money on supplements and, you know, we can take like handfuls of supplements, but that is stuff that's though valuable, already been processed. Yes. Preserved or whatever, what is actually in different parts of an animal's body is stuff that feeds us. I mean, our early ancestors definitely ate everything. I mean, if you watch shows like. Alive or naked and afraid or whatever. And we have to subsist like that. They are eating every tiny bit. We can, every collagen is amazing. Yeah. And we process it so much better that way then. Powder. So much better. And honestly, it's a more bioavailable to the gut lining. Yeah. Then a powder. I mean, they're, they all have their place. I really believe that we, we. Do what's best in. Yes, what we have access to within our resources. All of that, but this is the specific way that I've chosen to nourish my body while honoring the animal. Because we do eat animal based diet. So so I, you know, strip the bones. From all the meat, we eat meat. All of the bones skin. Yes, I do skin. I trust, I trust my farmer, the skin Any organs that I get from her feet, neck. You know, all of the. The super supple Colac collagenic college. Collagenous thank you. Thank you doctor. Collagenous maybe. You know, Parts from the animal into a pot. How you use an Instapot or S. I, my Instapot is my slow cooker as well. And. Then you, I fill it with water. So all of the parts and I mix. Beef Turkey, chicken, or whatever I have. Into the pot. Fill it with, I have a reverse osmosis. In my kitchen. So fill it with water or whatever. Filtered, water, whatever you want. Distilled water. You're pulling all the minerals and nutrients and amino acids out of these, the bones. So fill it with water. You add I just splash the acid. In there, which is apple cider vinegar, or are you talking about. I didn't remember that. How much do you put in? From like an Instapot. Like a couple tablespoons maybe. Okay. I mean, you can put in as much if you're an apple cider vinegar fan and you like that. Like them. I mean, I know I'm not either. So. I am a couple of tablespoons for like an eight court, you know, I'm to the point where I just put in. And that. That's good. I'm assuming the kind with like the mother. Yeah, I use, I use, yeah, just, yeah. As long as it's like a raw unfiltered organic. Apple cider vinegar with the mother. Okay. I mean, they're pretty much all. Made the same. Your foam broth was flavored so beautiful. Like onions or other stuff. No just that. So apple cider vinegar. And then I think I added like a little bit of like ground. Organic ginger. I had a little bit of tumeric because I am. You know, battling with inflammation, a little bit of pepper, black pepper to cause. Black pepper helps with the curcumin. Within the tumeric. Okay. So somebody doesn't know if you're having tumeric or curcumin. It works so much better if you can. It was like red pepper or black pepper, some kind of synergy with pepper. I mean, it's just like ups the, you know, bioavailability. Spiked. Yeah. 1% or I don't even know what. But do you. Organs in it too. Yeah. Delivers or something. Totally whatever I have. I get from the farmer, I get all the, I get the heart, the gizzards, the liver. Whatever I can get the marrow bones right from the beef, with the marrow inside. Like all, everything that I possibly can. Haven't convinced her to get me brain yet. It's not there yet. She's like, I don't know if we're going to go into brain, but. If you want to hide. Sprain. Yeah, fish brain. I don't want to have. What are the fish brains? It's like, it's not like you can still pretend to resolve. But I think, I mean, definitely. The benefits are. I mean, we have to have first and foremost, the belief just like anything, right. And yoga in the food that we're eating. This like. Benefit. You know, to our system, our health, our physical or mental, I do believe that it works to the depths of ourselves and it feeds myself and gives my cells what they need to repair. Skin health. I mean. I health, everything that involves any, I mean, our entire. Body is tissue Oregon's lion, you know? The S yes, for me, I feel like the connective tissue and, you know, I'm really deep into fascia. And I feel, I feel so much different when I. So much better in my own skin. When I drink it and when I know that I've made it and that I've, you know, I brew it all winter long. And I do a 48 hour brew. And then I'll drain it and then. If the bones aren't completely stripped where you can actually crumble them in your fingers, I'll do another 48 hour brew or before today. Yeah. 48 hours. Meaning like in a slower. What is done. More water. If they are still brittle at all. If I can't crush them in my fingers. And like mushroom up the bones. Then I do another. And there's still nutrients in there and I am going to get. Drinking what you did for the first bird. And then gray doing it and then just cycling back through and I just try and do it. If not, I mean, You know, as, as consistently as I can. Specifically in the winter, like, I really do feel like it helps with, I'm trying to get my daughter to drink it. She's more like mad. You know, she's 14. So. But, I mean, you also use what is left. Right. Yeah. Like, would you drink the liquid? What do. Mash them up. Everything that's possible. Mash it up. And I give it to my dogs and my cat. You just need it to my aunt house. Their food. I just top their food with it. Yeah. Collagen and whatever's left. Totally. And I just really feel like it. I mean, it's a lot more. Of a, like intentional mindful food to give to my animals that are under my care. And S you know, and I, they get kibble as well, but, but that is just something, they look forward to it. They love it. I know that it's nourishing for them. I know that it's better because it's prepared and it's not wasteful. I Don really can smell when I open something of chicken from the complete opposite side of the house. And it runs over. He would be like, oh my gosh. I've been smelling this for two days and he followed you. Going back before I, before we move on. I love you talked first about. The belief. So I have a couple of thoughts of that. Okay. First of all, I used to. When I heard that at first, I thought, yeah. Oh, my gosh, humans are so run by stupid beliefs. Right, right. And I sort of like rolled my eyes or I thought it was esoteric or I thought it was just one more way to like manipulate. And then I really started to learn. The power. Of what we believe about a thing. Totally repeat studies, good studies about placebo show that it can be more effective than the other thing. And that used to mean to me like, oh, humans are so easy to fool. I used to be kind of mean inside. But what it means to me now is. We are amazing. Again, more amazing than this chemistry that can happen in a pill. That's legitimate reactions. Our energy and our mind. Deciding what we do with the thing. It's more powerful than that chemistry that has been tried and tested by very smart people. Marketed. Put out in the world. We do more than that with our minds and I have experienced. Not only myself, but with other patients. So now I'm. I seen it enough that I know it's true. That I'm aware when I'm putting something in my mind, in my mouth. What I've seen with patients is like, I have a dear friend who is having a lot of trouble with inflammation and a lot of trouble with hormones. So, of course I suggested and mega oil and there's a brand that I really love. It's not in a capsule it's flavored nicely. You weren't burping it up all day. I'm like all excited to give it to her. She wants healing badly. She also has some trauma and the texture of the omega oil going down was really bad for her and put her in like a trauma state of remembering a different time when there was something that texture. So I, she called me and she's like, Becca, I don't know what to do. I've like tried gagging this down. I've tried having my daughter give it to me. I like, I just can't take this, but I want the benefits. Right. And. Far from just saying, suck it up, do it anyway. I said, Hey. You don't have to take this. First of all, you don't have to take it at all. There's other ways that we can deliver it. There's other things that we can do, right? Like we can do other stuff. I'm going to want to remember the bone. There are other methods. Giving her some fish eyes. But, but the thing I said is if you want to try it and only if you want, it's not to convince me it's not to do anything, but if you want to try what you have. I wonder what would happen? If you thought about what it's doing for you. Instead of that time. And if you held it, she's powerfully. Present woman. And I just said, I wonder what would happen if you thought about what it is doing for your skin? If you thought about how you want your hormones to feel. If you thought about what it's doing in your brain and how amazing concentration will feel. I just walked through the things that I know that healthy fats do in her body. While she just started to say, And relax. And I said, there's, there's nothing you have to take. You don't have to take this. But Nope. If my finances were really tight, she had already purchased it. I'm like, if you want to try, try that. Tell me what happens. And she called me later and was like done. I've done and done. Yeah. Not that the trauma doesn't exist. With that, what we are thinking about what is going into. Our body is it's just super important. It isn't even Wu anymore. It is established science. Totally. Yeah. That that moving out of the thing. And the end to the, like how and why. And. You know, and. Really? Yeah. That deep belief. Regardless of how. It's explained to us. So our belief, right. Belief. And you explain that. So. Well, but it really is, is a belief in ourself that it is doing what it needs to do. Or what, you know, Like down to the cells and that's how I can. Hello, what helps me? Like what's the deepest that it can go, right? Like, can it go down to the particles that make up the cells and you know, all, I just. And it's not every time. Of course, I'm a human and I, you know, I'm rushing to get my daughter to school, to get here and there and to work and, you know, but can you, can you slow down, can you, you know, actually vision. Envision it. What it's doing for your body? Yeah. That's the more that's. I mean, it really is more important than the actual thing itself. Yeah. You know, and then do you feel good about it? Do you feel good about it? So I know we're going long, but it's just, we are. So I'm wondering if I can. One more question though. Talk about you. I had a business. I don't. Yes. If you have that on pause or if it's still going, but you're still know what you're doing. About that is saunas. Can you tell me the benefits and UN. And what type it was a red light. So on the right. So it's an infrared sauna. Okay. So I have incorporated it into my lifestyle and it was my meditation sanctuary. Where I learned to meditate, where I was in the space. You know, outside of like my meditation yoga movement practice. Into a being with myself alone in a box practice. So not only. It is the sauna have benefits, but I also was like, what can I add? How can I maximize this? And I, so I, you know, I developed my meditation practice in basically in the, with the time that I had sitting in the sauna. So, and infrared sauna is. A. It heats up to. You know, What. Mine heats up to 170 degrees. You know, there are two dirt. Dry saunas, wet saunas. They're infrared saunas are a dry sauna. But it, it actually uses infrared. Frequency or energy light. And why is that? So they infrared actually builds the heat from your insight, the insight. So it's not only an external heat does heat up. Doesn't get as hot as a wet sauna or like a hot rock sauna or dry sauna that can heat up to like, 200 degrees or more. And both have benefits. I chose the infrared just because it's more of a warming, like internal. Heat that works with the energy frequencies of the body. To build heat within and it can penetrate. The body. Basically. So internally the cells, the joints, the muscles. So it's you know, again, this heat can penetrate and radiate throughout, throughout the body. Hopefully it helps. Help split helps detox. So, yeah, I mean, do you talks through sweat? Right? So that's one pathway. Of our, I mean, so, so many people don't even know the effects or don't experience the effects. Of just a daily sweat. Or you know, of regular sweat practice of whatever that is. And sweat is very effective for, you know releasing like heavy metals. Or, you know, chemicals, contempt, you know, different Different. I would say particles. That can actually be released in sweat. And a lot of that. A lot of. A lot of chemicals and heavy metals actually are released in sweat. So I, you know, I do it you know, Going back about 10 years ago. Diagnosed with an auto-immune disease. So I was like, what can I do to, you know, Not have to live the rest of my life on pharmaceuticals. And so all of this. You know, Biohacking type, you know, Don't really like. Leaning on that word anymore, but really like what can we do? Like take these ancient practices. And bring them into our modern day life. And the infrared sauna was that for me, it. I mean, it's a daily practice. You know, I. It's a time to, I mean, it's led into a time to connect now. I'm with my fiance. It's our like meeting time. We sweat together. And we release, we know where healing, where, you know, he's very physical. He has a weight training practice and it helps with, you know, repair and rest and recovery. And. I mean, I've, I've noticed that it's the heat will, I mean, it wakes me up if I, you know, I mean, some people, it will bring you down. It. It's like an adaptogen. Okay. It really fills in. Where you need, where like a gap, like, you know, like if you are in need of energy, like you can use the red light, you can use blue light. You can, you know, when it has chromotherapy, which is the lights that are inside. Of or, you know, built into the actual unit itself. And so, and that has effect, I mean, light. Color has effect on chemistry in our brain energy centers in our body. And it awakens, you know, different. You know, chakras are our chakra system you know, and really blends. A lot of that in, I mean, it can. I think it's, and I don't know specifically, but a 30 minute session as compared to like a. Our run or like like, I mean, as far as like the cardiovascular can help with cardiovascular health, I mean, there's a massive study that came out that. Reduces the rate of all-cause mortality by 40%. Just signing, like. Like three to four times a week. And it's, you know, You meditating while you're doing that or doing something else. Reading listening. Podcasts. It's really like. It's so it's so amazing. I love what you said about sort of letting the word biohacking go and leaning on ancient practices. I felt like the more that I talk to people that are either a trying to just stay well or be trying to get well, again, we start to think it's like a biohacker science-y thing and there's cool stuff there. About that. My husband. And there is especially a nerd about that. But what I have noticed is. When you get to what people are really doing sustainably and the things that people are just so grateful to incorporate it almost always ends up being. Ancient wisdom, ancient practices. Yep. Watch what's going in your mouth and make it something that's nourishing. You do sauna. Make sure you're sweating and moving every day. Totally. And not over moving, not over sunny. Yeah, like balance. Cold plunges. Yeah. Community, totally positive relationships. And those are things that do not cost a ton of money. And you don't need four doctorates to understand. No, no, I just don't know. I'm grateful for another voice saying that. I mean everything that we, we can find what we need. I mean, The internet, right? Like is a, is a space that now is unlimited. You can find what. Basically what you, what you need or what you're looking for. And it goes in both ways. Right. But But yeah, I mean, there's so many resources out there for us to heal. I really, I do feel like it comes back to. Getting to know ours ourselves at the deepest level. And there's so much work and I could. I mean, I could probably, we could. We had go on for days about. About the work. For this never ending, and it is a journey and it's not one day. I feel great. And I'm going to fill the gray this way for the rest of my it's. No, it's, you know, today I feel great. I'm going to do with it. What I can. And. They're going to be things that come up in moments and and then I'm going to do my best again tomorrow, or, you know, whatever it is like it just, and there are days where it's not as easy as it was yesterday. And you're wondering why. And you know, and then having the strength and the will. To make the choices to move forward and just try again the next day or, you know, I mean, it's, it's such, it's just part of the journey. Right. Like there's no one thing that works for everybody. But if you are interested in the thing, try it out. There are resources, the saunas, the. The bone broth, the yoga, the inner work, the chiropractic. Reiki, whatever it is, right. The say. Like. Mindfulness meditation. Yeah. I mean, I love that. And then just circling back to the very beginning as well. The putting your care for your body in your own hands. You also said a phrase that was strengthened surrender. And that is what I think about. All of these practices. And it's also what I think about, you know, thank you so much. Thank you. Can I Just mention that I do have a new class that started oh. Yes. So, and it is kind of the, both, both like Mary Mary mint marriage. Marriage. Connection community class. That is starting and it is it's strength. Surrender. Trust space time. All of You know, I really feel like it's, it's going to be a very vulnerable class or people who want to be open to the vulnerability or who want to take a chance on learning something new. It's called yoga techniques. And it's a new class that I'm co-teaching with another lovely instructor and it starting on March 9th. And it's going to be local at bristlecone. So if you're in Southern Utah, that's in Cedar city. On yoga. And it. It is. Yeah, it's going to be like a playtime workshop. Type style class, where it's very interactive and hands-on, and we're going to have so much fun. And it, what. What it is is that we're going to break down. Different poses and postures and. Kind of bring that sense of embodiment into the class, but allow for the time and space and support. To move into, you know, deeper poses or, you know, if you want to try. Balancing on your head or get on a table like a inversion table. Like we have so many, so many resources to just. Why not like pledges play. Oh, and so we're going to be there leading it and it'll be fun. And it'll just be, I'm so excited. It's just a place, a safe place for people to come to. Expand their practice and have the time and space and support to do that. Beautiful. Tara. Thank you so much for joining the keto. Thank you for joining me today. Thank you for having me. All right. Next time I'll be drinking bone pot until next day. We do. Well, that's what my laugh sounds like. I know the sound is a little different when I meet people in person. So thank you for your patience. If it isn't quite as clean as it usually is. Totally worth it. The takeaways I get from Terra cap. Heart are one. Find your fit. I was thinking since our interview about Tara's journey with fitness, with wellness, with knowing that she wanted to be in that space, but trying to find where she fits. And I think that happens so often. For me, it was, I knew I wanted to work with kids and adults. I knew I wanted to be in health and I knew I wanted to be helping people. Hands-on. But it took a while for me to find that too, and becoming a pediatric and a pelvic floor chiropractor. That's a wonderful fit for me. So follow your flow, let it lead to where you are and pay attention to. Where you're being called. I'm so grateful that Tara has done that. I wish I could gift everyone that is hearing this. Session in her yoga class. So you could feel what I'm talking about, but I think you know it in your own life. Number two, rather than judging, comparing or checking in with your fashion in yoga Tara's message is to use a yoga practice as a means to go inward. And to observe what is there? When you slow down the rest of the noise. And observe it without judgment. That is the magic of a yoga practice. Number three bone broth is what she calls a nourishing warm hug. That does us such a service. I just love that description. Of phrase in my life is to love more of the foods that love you back. And bone broth is one of those things. I put her recipe in the notes and I'm so grateful that Tara gave us some of her wisdom. And some of her spirit. I guessed for next week is truthfully just one of my favorite people. If she lived in my town, I would definitely have tea with her in her backyard at least once a month. While we just talk and I hear wisdom poor from her lips. She is a previous high school teacher. She's a licensed massage therapist and she's a licensed hypnotherapist, but that's not even the coolest part. That's just the beginning. What she gathered from all of those experience helped her to go on a path where she created something called the body-mind bridge Institute. And she's written three books. The first is called. What if symptoms are your friend? Second body-mind bridge and the self healing mind and the third survival trances. So you can tell by those titles that she is into going deep inside the mind. To help us understand what's really happening with our mind. How that affects our health. And then to make changes that free us more and more and more from those sort of trauma survival trances that we get into. I met her when I was training for my public speaking career And her speech she was working on was called. What if symptoms are your friend? And we talk a little bit about that as we begin the episode next week, she also has written a new nonfiction book. That's about a neuroanatomy scientist that goes with a really questioning and academic mind into the world of psychedelic healing. And it is super funny about what she learns and how she learns it. She's also been working in the psychedelic world as what she calls a psychedelic doula, which is when she sits with people, helps facilitate to keep them safe and to get help them have an experience where they can go more inward. But also uses the skills that she has through the body-mind bridge Institute to help them go. Even deeper if they wish into their own healing mind. We discussed the science and also some of her lived experience as she's traveled to other countries to have experiences with the shaman and the elders having to do with plant medicine teachers, or just healing in general. And she also talks about some of the current things happening in that scene. And what I like is some of the things are different than what we talked about with Cole witty in previous episodes. It's always great to get another perspective within the same world. We talk about that. And we talk about going deeper in your mind, different consciousness states. It's just a fascinating conversation for those of you who are interested in going deeper within your own self. To find some of the answers to your own healing. She lives with her wife in the Pacific Northwest. And I feel all of the grounded goodness of the Mount Rainier national forest that she lives in there when we talk. So I am really grateful to be able to share. One of the most empowering and healing people that I've ever met. Shauna Marelli next week, I'll meet you here.