LBP #74: My Swedish Birthday Robe

Good singing, better parenting and why is everyone on this boat so horned up?

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SPEAKER_00 0:06

Welcome back. Love Boat Project episode 74. I'm your host, Mike Taylor. As always with me, my co-host, Ahoy Mike, Mike Robertson. How are you there? Hey Mike.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Interesting. Do you think that this episode was the main guest cast you knew the least?

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Oh well, it's funny you say that. I don't wanna I don't want to spoil the punchline. For the most part, yes.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

I will say the only thing that I think, and I did not do an intense dive on the IMDB this week, the only thing that I have ever seen any of our portal people in ever was like four months ago when I saw Britt Eklund on the Muppet Show. See that and that was it. So does that make a difference in this ep? Does that make a difference in the episode? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

You know, so I I don't know. I mean, Vicky did have a Miss Piggy poster in her room, so maybe there is true.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

I don't know. No, that'd be great. Crossover. I wonder if we'll get a crossover. With the Muppets?

SPEAKER_00 1:20

We've yet to go on the love boat.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Yeah, that I think that we've yet to have the other way yet. No, we have taken a break. We have taken a break in the Muppets here with uh with the two-year-old. We've moved on to the Sesame Street, but we'll get back. So I have learned a lot of I've met a lot of our favorite stars over at the Muppets. This is run.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

We're here today to talk about the Love Boat season three. According to IMDB, this is episode 26. According to Paramount Plus, this is episode 24. Can we get this together next season?

SPEAKER_01 1:52

And it's the 23rd episode that we've done this year, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Can we just agree? Episode titled Vicky's First Love. The high cost of loving and accident prone. The high cost of loving, accident prone. Really short to the point titles this week.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

I didn't even that's funny. I think the high cost of loving, I think I just didn't even really look it for the title this week on that one.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

So I know I wrote it, but I never thought about it again after I wrote it.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

I guess the titles are becoming less. I don't know why this is the case. The titles are becoming less, I'm just becoming less aware of the titles. I don't know why that is the case, but I just don't think about them that much.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Maybe it's the outstanding storytelling is distracting you from the who cares in the story.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

That's true. Don't judge a book by its cover, Mike.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Never. Never. Original air date, Saturday, April 5th, 1980. What else is on? We got a repeat on NBC at eight o'clock. BJ and the Bear. Kane's cruiser. Sheriff Kane decides that the best way to pay for his expensive new police cruiser is to arrest BJ and fine him for transporting illegal aliens through the county, ripped from the headlines.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

I remember that one. We talked about that one earlier. I remember that. That felt very unethical of Sheriff Kane.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Very unethical. Let's go to CBS at eight o'clock. And a funny, it's the Tim Conway show. This week's special guest, Melba Moore.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Hey. Potential stubby nominee, Melba Moore.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Interesting. Today I was I was looking at something watching something on YouTube, and I happened to f I found Tim Conway's very first appearance on the Tonight Show after he won an Emmy for the Carol Burnett show. And it was almost a perfect talk show appearance. The way he it was just great. It was just great. He'd known Johnny for years. It was Johnny's 16th year on the air. And he's like, Why didn't you ever come on the show? And Tim Conway said, I didn't know this is what you did. He's like, You do this every night. It was just very it was a very dry, it was fantastic. Apparently they had all the time.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

That's that's so interesting because it's like how many times did you actually ever hear Tim Conway as Tim Conway, right? That's always the thing with those guys.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

He was barely Tim Conway. You know, he was very, you know, always in some sort of on shtick. Yeah. Every interview I've ever seen or heard, he's always on. Like it's hard to get a real Ernest.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

It's kind of like us. Like people wouldn't believe how we are off air. Oh so much different.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

What will Ernest? No, Ernest won't be on this thing, right? Oh no, he's never showing up here.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

ABC at eight o'clock. It's a special, Mike. The Easter bunnies coming to town. Oh I didn't even think about it being Easter. Big night for ABC. Fred Estare narrates an animated explanation of many Easter traditions, including jelly beans. I don't know what kind of explanation those need. Colored eggs and Easter parades.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

How long is this four? Just four minutes?

SPEAKER_00 5:26

It's an hour. It's an hour.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Thank God they got Fred Astaire to explain to us about why parades exist.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

And they're all animated. He just narrates it. It's all animated for girls. Wow. That is good thing the uh Tim Conway show in a BJ and the Bear repeat was on. He could have avoided this completely.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Well, happy Easter, everybody. Yeah. I guess we just missed Maudy Thursday.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

I think so. Let's move to the 9 o'clock hour, directly up, you know, up against the love boat, NBC at 9 p.m. I'm saving the best for last year. Sanford. Dinner at George's. Fred treats Evelyn to dinner at an expensive restaurant. Then learns she secretly paid most of the bill. Oh, I bet you Fred hates that. Episode directed by Sam Spielberg. Oh, wow. Was not expecting that. I didn't either. The candy man? Shocked as you were. Here's sort of the highlight of what else is on this week. CBS at 9 p.m. Hawaii 5 0. An episode called Woe to Woe Fat, the series finale. We're just talking about this.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Yeah, I didn't realize it was right away. 68, I think, when I looked last week. Yeah. So it is it is gotta be dated as hell in 19. I guess the only thing is Hawaii, maybe you can get away with it looking the same. Like Hawaii could be less time relevant in if they shot certain spots, I guess. Same weather.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Weather-wise, it's groundhog day.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

But I I mean we we star we talked about it a lot like when Dano was on, and it's I I I would have guessed Hawaii 5-0 ended in 1975.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

I would imagine it's well past its prime. No offense. I don't know, but you know how these things go.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Dano will be back, I think, before we're done this season.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Oh, that's right. Um episode synopsis uh to investigate the disappearance of three scientists.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

McGarrett disguises himself as one of their colleagues. Was he put on like a white, just a white jacket?

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Horn rim, horn rim glasses. Talks like, oh, he just does Shelly Hack. He just does Shelly Hack bits.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Look at that nerd drinking water. You know, he just uh nobody's drinking water, and I've never seen anyone drink water.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

What's the bit when the scarecrow gets the brain at the end, he just does that? He's just doing classic Bulger.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Just calculus. Ray Bulger's welcome to calculus. He disguised himself as one of their colleagues and finds himself in a final showdown against his evil nemesis, WoFat.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

That's how you end those shows. That's how you do it. I hope I wonder if he kills WoFat, or I wonder if they become fast friends. It's like the end of Casablanca.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Or they both die. It's one of those things like.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Well, they have I know they have TV movies. I don't know if Jack Lord I actually don't know how long Jack Lord hangs around. Or what Jack Lord did after Hawaii 5.0.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

So I did hang around. I've been here for 13 frickin' years. 12 years. Enough's enough.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Like wonderfully Jack Lord on the boat. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would be on the boat. I don't think he would be on the boat.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

I don't think now. Maybe younger.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Well, he's dead now, and there's no love boat, but I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

These are two small hurdles. I'm an optimist, Mike. All right.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

I'm sorry. Never say never.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Guest stars this week. You brought up Britt Eklund. She plays Karen Ellison first appearance on the love boat. We'll see her again in season five. Swedish film stage and television actress. She was Swedish. Yeah, I know. It's so subtle. The tiniest. Well, it was so uh Swedish fish coming out of her pocket.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

But it was that thing where it was like we've seen both versions of that, right? We've seen like actual people with the actual accent, and then we've seen like who is the French the French war woman who was from New Jersey, you know. It was like so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Alan Feinstein is Tom Barry. You're gonna hear this a lot in the next couple minutes. First and only appearance in the Love Boat. Next Steve Cannelly or Canalee as Mr. Massey. They never gave him a first name in the world.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Well, you know what's funny? He I think he tried to tell Julie his first name at the very beginning, but like it just got frantic.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Yeah, I understand that completely. Run, sir. Part of it, totally get.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Yeah, you and Massey took two peas in a pot. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Oh, yeah. So much to talk about. I'd be like, sir, I don't want to hear that. Come on. First appearance in the Love Boat. We'll see him again in a season six two-parter. He played the role of Ray Krebs on Dallas for a total of 289 episodes.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Wow. I I feel like I recognized him a little bit, but I just have the most superficial Dallas knowledge. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Past Patrick Duffy. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Yeah, but but 289 episodes of Dallas. I mean, I'm sure I saw him at some point, but I will say this about that guy. I don't think he was bad. I don't know that that was the optimal type of person for that role. No, I I agree. I I thought a younger, a little bit younger, a little bit more comedic. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

It was like any more comedic, just some comedy, I think you could have.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

I couldn't tell how serious I was supposed to take it. And he was clearly paying it for playing it for last, but he it was fine, but he wasn't the right guy for that. I I have to think about who was, but it wasn't him.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

You can pick the bigwigs easily, but I think this would be a good I think a this would have been a good Billy Crystal. Yeah. You know, had he not been, you know, I could see him doing that. But more about that when we get into this. We don't want to I did want to mention not portaled, not Kearns, but we see Byron Morrow as Mr. Massey's attorney. This is an uncredited appearance in the love boat, but here's what's weird. He's back next week in a credited role, and that's his last appearance in the love boat. I thought that was weird.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Well, that explains why he showed up this week, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

He just showed up early. Is that what it was?

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Maybe the maybe the guy who maybe the guy who's supposed to play Massey's attorney didn't show up.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

He was hoping someone that uh Rex Smith wasn't gonna show up. That's what it was. Speaking of, Rex Smith is Mark Redding.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

What a complicated role this was.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

This someone talk about heavy lifting Hamlet-esque. Let me tell you about this because I I I recognize this guy.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

From a show from my youth that I'll get into. It's his first and only appearance in the Love Boat. Mike, there was a show. He was the star of a show in 1985, I believe it was on maybe MBC. It's called Streethawk. Do you remember Street Hawk?

SPEAKER_01 12:55

I do not remember Streethawk, no.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

It lasted 13 episodes and was canceled. Streethawk is an all-terrain attack motorcycle designed to fight urban crime and capable of speeds up to 300 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

That's not even really that also seems like it would cause more urban problems than solve them.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Yeah, and has immense firepower. Oh, great. Played by Rex Smith, an ex-motorcycle cop is recruited to uphold justice by driving a powerful motorcycle named Street Hawk. Oh my god, I want to look this up. You should see this one. I remember this one.

unknown 13:41

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

I do how did I miss that? That feels like that feels like a seven-year-old me would have been all over this giant motorcycle.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Well, this and Manimal, like give me that all day long. So beat him manimal, he was like, hey.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Well, it almost feels like he would turn into a panther. It almost feels like a live action. It feels like more like a live action, like Mask or GoBots or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

If you're driving 300 miles, and I remember they would speed up the film Mr. Massey style, like if he was going, um, but let's hit the accelerator. Like there's no way if he hits a pebble and three NASCAR cars, like Formula One cars only go like 220, 230. Like, stop it.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

He's just the same. Do you remember what city it was?

SPEAKER_00 14:30

I don't know. We'll have to tune in and find what it seems like. I mean that's gonna be one hell of a pilot. They're only gonna say it once, like in the first sentence of the of the pilot, and that's it. And then the last episode, just to keep that info from you. Episode Synopsis, Street Hawk, later's gonna Vicky develops a crush on a rock star. I don't know about rock star, I'll use that loosely here. A man in a cast from a traffic accident runs into the woman who had hit him. And a man paying high alimony tries to avoid every woman he meets.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Was it alimony?

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Well, I I'll get to that in a second. Okay. Yeah. But he just needed the form. It should have been something about the form.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Instead of Well, they don't want to give away that intricate plot point.

SPEAKER_00 15:26

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. Oop, spoiler alert. Ding ding ding.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

When we when we get to the actual introduction of that storyline, there was something that I missed the first watch and caught this morning when I was watching it. Yeah, that I'm very that yeah, and I and I'll be curious to see if you know the famous cultural piece that came after that.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

So I didn't, but now so all right, let's get on the boat here. Yeah. Uh so we begin this week outside of the boat. You know, we always love when we start outside of the boat. True. In the taxi parking only section of the dock. And I don't think this is a taxi that anyway. A gentleman exits the passenger seat. That's not a taxi, but maybe they're not parked. So we'll let it be.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Maybe it's like, remember, remember when right before the pandemic, when Uber drivers would ask you to sit up front because they were getting nailed at like airports and stuff. Maybe it's that.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Oh, that was huge in Tampa, which was so funny because we had like a five-minute ride.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

But yeah. I thought it took longer for him to explain what I needed to do than it.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

You could have walked into the airport from my house. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

He's like, wait, I'm not done telling you. I'm like, I know, but I'm I'm here. Ubers are weird in Florida. I don't know how this works.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Everything's weird in Florida.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

Gentleman exits this vehicle. It's Mr. Massey. I'll just go ahead and tell you that now. Another gentleman exits the driver's seat and they walk towards the ship's entrance together.

unknown 16:57

Mr.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Massey tells this other gentleman he needs to get away. Turns out this gentleman's his lawyer, and he warns him about falling in love after the Lee Marvin decision.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

The Lee Marvin decision, let me just talk about this. So the Lee Marvin decision, it established the right of partners in non-married relationships to sue for a division of property, aka alimony. Yep. So that's what this whole thing is about. So the lawyer saying, Here, look, I'm gonna give you a release for any potential lady to sign. And he pats the guy on his shoulder and tells him to enjoy himself.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Now, Mike. Yeah. Do you know the famous comedy piece that was born from the Lee Marvin alimony decision? After this happens, Saturday Night Live, there's a weekend update, and they're talking about Lee Marvin and I can't remember her name. It was like a French name or something like that. But they're going back and forth. And they did a point counterpoint with Dan Aykroyd and Jane Curtin. And you may remember it because it starts that the famous line, you ignorant slut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's actually that's what that is from because it was basically Behind Every Woman is a good man or Behind Every Man is a good woman, but you wouldn't know about that because there's no saying about what's behind a piece of crap and all that stuff. So but anyway, it was funny. I've never actually I knew about the story and I knew about it through the Saturday Night Live bit, but it was funny. That's pretty it must have been a huge thing. It's pretty topical, it's pretty current topical for Love Boat. And for them, well, I immediately went and looked to see who wrote this thing because in my mind I was like, oh boy, here we go. All the old white divorce guys. Oh, jeez. But it was not Schneider and it was just a a person, it was just like an initial person, and I think it was a guy. Sometimes it was a guy, but yeah. Interesting before we get too far, there were four writers of the three storylines this week combined. How many total episodes of the Love Boat had they written before this week?

SPEAKER_00 19:27

I'm gonna say zero. One one, because it didn't feel it felt a lot, it felt very different this week.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

And it was the person and it was the person who wrote this one.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

And the one they wrote before was the Joe Namath one. So you know what?

SPEAKER_00 19:45

I could totally see that. There's some parallels. Like they know each other, those guys.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Yeah, we're gonna be able to get it, vitamin D, whatever. Already at this point in the storyline, especially after last the last couple months of episodes that we've had, I had my back up on like, oh, is this gonna be one of those like women are money grubbing devils and all that stuff? I was very worried that we were gonna get that.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

Yeah, I was a little yeah, I was definitely worried for the same reason. Yeah. On the ship, we see a man crutches uh with what looks like a cast on his leg. I explains that he got in a car accident with some crazy lady driver. Aren't they all, Mike?

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Not my words. Not my words. I'm just talking about Tom. Tom Davis.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Talking about Tom, just his analysis. Uh Bricker tells him to call him if he needs anything. It's a good job there.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Thanks, Todd.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

What would he what do you need?

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Well, he did need something. He had to get his cast adjusted later.

unknown 20:49

That's not a thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

I don't I was people are this is two weeks in a row now where people have pre-existing injuries and they're going to Bricker. This is what we want.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

He doesn't like it. He's got extra work now. He doesn't have time for this nonsense. Too many brains to check out. Blonde woman enters the ship, and Isaac trips over her suitcase. The man on crutches, Tom, turns around and and he sees that the blonde woman is the same woman that caused the car accident.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

All the gin joints.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Come on. They both yell at each other and then they leave for their cabins. Local bus this week. Oof. Isaac, welcome aboard the hate boat.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

We will we will get to that. I am over the self-referential love boat crap. I am done with this.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Like cologne? Like, what are you guys doing with this brand?

SPEAKER_01 21:43

Unearn. Just have an episode where it becomes your title and then we can move on. But this is ridiculous. Are you guys watching the show?

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Like it's just weird. Like they're I don't it's only it's only season three, right?

SPEAKER_01 22:03

It's only these last it's it's like these last five episodes too. It's like somebody made a decision like at Christmas that this was gonna be what they were gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

No, that's not the point of this.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

It feels like you know what it feels like, the hubris boat.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

That was for the boat, not for you.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Okay, we gotta explain that. Yeah, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

That was for the boat. Not for your comment. I'm just booing the boat at this point. Mr. Massey's boarding the ship instead of asking Julie to help him, which he starts to, he leaves and asks Vicky. Vicki stares with or Julie stares at him without blinking, while Vicky finds his cabin number. Uh-oh, Julie. We're not off to a good start.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Well, I mean, to be fair, this guy, this guy's got everything. He's checking everything. He's older, he's got money, he doesn't have any interest in her.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

He likes to carry books around, he likes giant glasses of orange juice, he likes to row. There's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

Oh, he loves rowing. Was this the Dad Gail Ravana regatta?

SPEAKER_00 23:08

He loves movies. Oh. Julie asks Vicky why he was ignoring her, and Vicki tells her that he likes younger women. Uh oh, good one. Bazinga. Julie sees rock star Mark Redding. I can't stand this guy. Can't Mark's just ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

A lost Redding? You don't like Mark Redding?

SPEAKER_00 23:35

His hairstyle, number one.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Did feel a little felt a little outdated.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

It did look, right? So this this this person who's gonna, you know, Vicky's gonna have a little crush on. Vicky's 15. The actor that's playing Mark Redding at this moment is 25 in this thing. I had a real problem with the age difference and like the go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

The other thing is until Wailing is 15. Right. Vicky has never been like referenced more than like 12. No. Like, oh they made some choices, and especially in the context of the last two episodes being Vicky, you know, heavy episodes, including the one where you know they decided she could stay on the boat.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

So it was a thumbs up, thumbs down type. Well, you know what they did, the biggest change, and and and I made a note of it later on. Last week, I mentioned, hey, in her room, I saw two posters. One of Miss Piggy and one of like a giant picture of a photo of a kitten, right? What says 12-year-old like a kitten? Mike, that kitten poster was gone this week. And in its place, the Bee Gees, and I think Peter Frampton. She grew up in in one weekend day and and five five work days. I don't know what happened in that week. But you know what? It wasn't even that. Like, I'm I'm trying to be funny, but at the same time, I thought the encouragement. Sure, go ahead. You can stay out late. Sure. Like, no one was like, hey, he's in his 20s like what it was weird.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

So so you're not so we did a good job of avoiding talking about what we actually thought about this episode. Yeah. Because we haven't talked about it. This episode is an island of misfit toys, in terms of like, this none of this should work.

unknown 25:34

No.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

I think it does, but I understand where you wouldn't. And I will say that the biggest problem they had was they did not land the plane with the mark oh misunderstanding eyes, you know, from the male of the babes, kind of stuff. Like he was it came off very hitting on a child in parts. And then and then some of the crew, you know, but then they did, I feel like they did a great job with with other parts of it. So it was a weird, it was a weird one. It was it was strange. The whole thing was strange from Jump Street, including when Stubing is talking to Mark, and then they come over, and Julie, it made more sense later, right? Julie doesn't know that he's on the boat, which means he's not hired help this week. Julie would know, right? Oh, that's the first. Well, she gave him a real half-ass introduction, too.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

So considering the performance, he sort of depth of the lyrics.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

I can't wait to disagree, disagree, strong disagree. I got my engraver out, sir. But we'll get to that.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

It all rhymes, too.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

So woman tenda. But it was funny. So Mark comes over and Stubing introduces him, and Julie's like, nice to meet you, and he's like, Call me Mark, which means somebody was supposed to say, Hi, Mr. Redding. They didn't. So just barrel right through.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

So uh Stubing tries to introduce Vicky to Mark, but she's a stuttering mess. Stubing, and this is where I thought it was weird. So Stubing asked Vicky to make to take Mark on a tour of the ship. Okay, at this point, it's not a little weird, but like well, it's weird in the sense of we've talked about this.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

There's no worse time to take a tour of the ship than when a bunch of people are getting on the ship.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

I was gonna say they're all boarding.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Like, what do you everyone's in the hallway?

SPEAKER_00 27:45

We don't have to do everything right now. You know, oh, captain's table. We've just set up a captain's table as people come in. Like, it's just there's too much going on. Let me get to my he hasn't even been to his room yet. Right. Vicky hands Julie her clipboard, and the tour has begun. We do get a ticker tape scene, but no no Jerry Stiller.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

No, no Jerry Stiller. They finally fixed that one.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Well, it's been give me one more.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

You know, I think we're officially a year, this is like the year anniversary of Jerry Stiller's appearance. So maybe it runs out after a year.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

Oh, so sad. I wish he was back this season.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

He'll be back. He'll be back though, but not this season.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

Tom is sitting by the pool and his cast is being signed by a few ladies. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I mean, look at you, Tom.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

That's gotta be.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

What's that? That's gotta be.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

I've never had a cast, luckily, and I certainly never had a 1980 cast. That cannot be pleasant in the hot, hot sun.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

I mine happened in the summertime. Yeah, it's bad, itching, and it was it was it was up to like just below the knee.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

Yeah. And you and you would have loved being stuck on a cruise ship and having a bunch of strange women come over to you.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

I wouldn't have gone on the cruise with a broken leg. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Well, what if you had gotten a ton of insurance money in a settlement?

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Or or you didn't really get any physical money yet. You just somehow, but you don't have zero people trying to pull some financial garbage.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

I'm sure it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Oh, yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

And plus, if it's not fine, it's not like you'll find out about it until after the cruise is over. That'd be weird. What are they gonna call you on the phone?

SPEAKER_00 29:29

They should have like a big guy like on the way out and be like, let me just check the records, made sure you did you pay. Well, they don't have computers.

unknown 29:36

That's it.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

They should have a uh it should be like uh when you leave Walmart or Best Buy or something like that. There's just somebody like check a receipt, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Or like the reverse of a bouncer, like a reverse of an exit man checking all your stuff before you leave.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Your punishment is you have to take another week of cruise.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Yeah, you can't go anywhere. Guess what? More not slow sacks for you people. Enjoy.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

People you're crapping on that musical performance already. You're lucky I didn't sing the whole thing to start the show. Don't think I don't know the lyrics.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Oh, I that's why I wrote them down. I was like, aha, touche.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Don't think there's not a two-minute YouTube video saved in my Loveload project folder. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

Well, it's funny is as it were like thinking about the song, like there weren't a lot of musical numbers this season, but boy, the ones we had were doozies. That is gonna be an entertaining category in the stubbies this year.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Like any song is uh essentially just yeah, there's not a well, it sounds like from your perspective, there's not a clear winner. I may disagree, but we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

It depends on the viewpoint. I think I know who should win, but I I I don't know if they will win, but we'll see. Karen walks up, grabs a pen to sign the cast, and Tom is having none of this. Uh-uh. Karen said she'd rather be friends with Frankenstein. Tom says at least his parts were replaceable. Not a bad comeback. I gotta say, not a bad comeback to a Swedish put down about Frankenstein. Isaac, I mean, you know, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Like it's not even like Frankenstein in IKEA, was it? No, it's Frankenstein's like German.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Like, what do you yeah, yeah, do something. Like, oh, you know, I'd rather be friends with, you know, and schmukish mukish. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 31:22

What about the guy that Gopher played earlier in the season? I'd rather be friends with that guy.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

Whatever he was snacking about. Umla. Umlaut. Yeah, umlaut. I'd rather be friends with umla. Would make sense. Isaac suggests that they separate. Tom and Karen both leave after each of them almost tripping as they walk away. All right.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

And again, let me just say, again, at this point, I'm again a little a little burned from the last few months. I'm like, okay, this is just gonna be this the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Well, so is I. I was ready to be upset about it. Right. Open mind, blank sheet of paper, just open mind. Yeah. Mr. Massey is reading a book. Julie approaches because she can't handle uh rejection, and Mr. Massey, because she's like, she really wants to go. What's wrong? What's wrong with me? Why do you want you know it's gonna be that doc thing? Why don't you look at me like you look at the uh oh no poor Julie. Julie approached it.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

It was uh it was very much like Courtney Stewing shoving that pillow under that guy's head.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Oh it yeah, I mean, I think Mr. Massey, it took it took less time for him to make his exit than he did the pillow guy. The guy took a beating for a while. It's true, you know. Julie approaches Mr. Massey and wants nothing to do with her and gets up and I'm out of here. Mark invites Vicky to meet him by the pool after their ship tour. Vicky sees Stubing as she's gonna go prepare, and Vicki's question, Were you older than mom? He said, It usually works better if the man is older. This is when I started getting scared right here. Yours was the other one, this was mine right here. I was like, are they really gonna be completely blind about this age difference thing? Like, where are we going? I didn't know what was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Well, I had a couple I had a couple things with this. So, first of all, this tour went on so long the Stubing had time to get changed and put his fat boy shorts on.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

So he did. He loved those shorts. It's thinking he loves the socks more than the shorts, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

When when Vicky asks about the age difference between you know mom and him, I started doing the math on Stacy's Stubing. I don't know why I didn't put together right away. I was just like, I was doing the wrong. I I forgot about George Georgina. So did I. So yeah. R.I.P.

unknown 33:53

Mr.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

Massey's getting a drink at the bar. Doc and Isaac encourage him to notice some of the beautiful women aboard, but he declines. He goes on to explain his situation to Isaac and Doc. He shows them weird move. He shows them the canceled check. What? What you never like 400 grand or some ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

But it was almost 500 grand. It was like 489 grand. This guy's this guy is so rich, and he's on this stupid boat lumined on this crap boat. No offense, but I mean he could have you're on the same boat with the guy who's paying for it with a car wreck settlement.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

And if I'm Mr. Massey, I'm not getting on a boat with with a bunch of poorers with casts on their legs. Like, you better get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

I plus it's like that. It doesn't make sense. Well, it's that thing too where it's like this guy is spoiler maybe a horn dog. This guy can't look at a woman. Like, no wonder the attorney tried to step in front of it. Now, the attorney shouldn't have let him get on the boat.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

No, you don't let that dude get on a boat.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

That piece of paper's not gonna stop him.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

That's so uh, or you go with him, like the Colonel Clink, like a man servant.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

Maybe that's why he comes back next week. He's looking for he's cleaning up the mess. Mr.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Massey's brother, same as Mr. Massey.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

I hope he plays the attorney again, and no one will care. Wait, are you Mr. Massey's attorney?

SPEAKER_00 35:21

Oh, he tells him he he keeps the cancel check there because it's a reminder that there are other things in life besides girls.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

They saved it. They did save it. They did save it with that, though. That would at least be a reason that you would have it. Otherwise, it was psychotic.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

So it's just a weird, like rich brag. Like, oh, look at this. Look how much money I can afford to give away. Oh. And Mr. Massey leaves with his book.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

We missed the uh you missed the homophobia in there too, because at first he was like, Oh, yeah, like men, you know, and Doc and Isaac were just like that's the second time that that's come up in two weeks where it was a weird yeah. I'm a little concerned that we're gonna start getting into the casualness of that. We haven't really had any of that. It was just weird how they but you know, it's not true, it's not like the Reagan era is gonna make that less uh no less acceptable.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

No how wait, 80? When was the big the Ryan White? Like, was that early?

SPEAKER_01 36:30

No, that's nineties. That's nineties. That's nineties. I mean the AIDS epidemic is gonna be happening during the show, but we're not gonna be seeing anything about that.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

Was that ninety ninety one so yeah interesting?

SPEAKER_01 36:45

And again, this is harmless stuff, but it is that thing where you do notice it.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

They dance around it a little bit. Yeah, just to see it touched on in that way. Karen's standing on deck when Isaac is walking by with a tray of drinks. You know what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Nothing good.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Karen bumps into him, drinks go flying, she apologizes. Isaac tells her to stand there and let him get a 10-second head start. She starts to walk away and almost trips over a chair.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

These two. Man, these guys are like me, just walking around, falling over everything, knocking into stuff.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

You know, we we've said a lot, or I've said a lot about the lack of beefy roles for Isaac on a week-to-week basis. Yes. And he did have a lot of things this week, but I've still felt like this was just kind of, but I still wish that there was more for Isaac.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

There are essentially three three things you can do as one of the cast members, right? You get an actual storyline that is about you. Right. Which was like Vicky this week. Right. You you get something where you're it's not your storyline, but you are involved a lot, sort of like Julie was in the Vicky storyline this week. Or you get you're just kind of popping in with your little like Gopher got less than Isaac did this week, right? Yeah, yeah. And I think they just haven't really ever found the balance with everybody. I've said it a million times. Isaac had a couple bartending scenes this week. He've actually poured a drink this week. Right. That part was great, and then I'm fine with that every week, but the problem has been he has not had like Isaac episodes.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

You know, I think he's got one coming up, but yeah. I think next week is actually one. Yeah. But him and him and Julie both left for this season. I'm saying it's I we can safely say now, even if there's one with him in it, the next one. He's been very light on the Isaac storylines this season.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Yeah. And you had said it about Vicky joining, and I don't think it was egregious until egregious makes it sound bad. It was just the weird spacing of the three Vicky episodes all in a row.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

And it was like one ball to share.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

Like why well, and it was like Gopher's most of Gopher's stuff was all in a pretty small, like middle of the season kind of thing. Julie had everything early. It's it's I I think there's a better way to balance it where it doesn't feel like that, but also they've they've never really landed the plane in terms of what this they want the show to be cast versus guest stars.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Because then it's all up to those writers, too.

unknown 39:31

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

Say you have these writers that have never done an episode, not not saying their take is wrong, right, whatever, but maybe they're not gonna be as as crew heavy. Maybe it's gonna be more focused on that individual storyline that you know the main focus is the guest star. And that's kind of how it well, I guess there's a balance of both.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

And the funny thing is, I I genuinely liked this episode, but you would think with you would think with a lower star power episode, you would go crew heavy. And I would say the Vicky, the Vicky storyline was was pretty crew heavy, but I think we're just I think we're just kind of like if there's 25 episodes in a season, everybody on the cast should get three actual ones, right?

SPEAKER_00 40:14

Like that's not that's not the hard. So and if that's what they get, to your point a second ago, spread them out, man. Yeah. Like enough with the Vicky Heavy Again. She's a new she's a new full-time cast member this season, so it's like slow down a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

I'd be curious to go through I'd be curious to go through, and it probably wouldn't take that long to do it, to kind of plot out this season in terms of like how many who who had what episodes, right? Right, right. Like, and just to see what the math is, because like Isaac had the Rosie Greer thing, which wasn't really even his. And like, am I even I think am I not remembering one? Like, it's just he just hasn't had a lot of those, so which is weird.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

No, yeah, it's just and again here he's got a lot of you know, quick one-liners. I'm all about him. I'm all about seeing him, you know, being that guy to give out advice in one of the bars, but it just you gotta, yeah. It's just interesting. He he's an original cast member, you can't you can't do that.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

And every one of his quote unquote Isaac episodes is really, really good.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

Yes, that's something that's just like honestly he even said after that that the ones that basically his friends wrote for him were Doc and Gopher.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

Honestly, for the most part, I would say the irony is the worst, some of the worst solo episodes or whatever you want to call it, were Doc ones. But for the most part, when they give somebody the ball for a week, it's pretty good. Yeah, I agree. You know, so but who knows? I think I think maybe this also goes to the fact that their feedback is that people love the guest stars and so don't go crazy with all these crew focused storylines.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

They show the guest stars portals first. Maybe that's the whole thing. Maybe that's you know, some people's take is like, oh, that, you know, we gotta push these guests. Ah, who knows? Who knows? But I I'm sure it's a mix of the two. I just uh it's just weird.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

If it's the worst problem we have at this point, I'm not worried about it, but it is it is noticeable.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

So we see Tom and Doc's waiting room, and Karen walks by the open door. They talk about how accident-prone they both are. Tom asks asks her to sign his cast in Swedish. He just assumes she's Swedish, huh? And uh she rush she bla bla bla bla you know, writes some something in Swedish translation. Do you want to have dinner tonight? Uh whoa, right? Slow down.

SPEAKER_01 43:00

That escalated quickly.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

Yeah, whoa. Tom agrees and tells you.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Well, it's just like they basically were they what was the what was the impetus to change the fighting to dating? Like nothing really happened in between.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

All she did is see him in a wait in a room, sitting there with his cast that he's had on the whole time. I I don't know what the I mean, except this time he doesn't have a sock on.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Doc's office sliding.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

Yeah. Tom agrees, he's gonna pick her up at eight. Karen goes to leave and almost walks right into the door. Which is kind of funny, because if you go back to remember the Jinx episode with the when Doc walked right into the door with those people that survived that shipwreck.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

Because I feel like Oh, it was yeah, Bolger.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

Yeah.

unknown 43:52

Wait.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

Yeah, Bolger had that great door. Uh yeah. That was a good door when I will should have been a stubby winner. Wow. There's always room for the governor's award.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

Lifetime Achievement Award, Video Vanguard. Mr. Massey's trying to read his book by the pool. This mic. Julie decides to lead some sort of exercise class next to him.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

What you mean you mean Jane Fonda?

SPEAKER_00 44:18

What is this? What is this? They don't even do the classes here. This isn't where the disco class. Like what? They're on the shuffle board.

SPEAKER_01 44:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

Like you what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Well, they didn't, they they clearly didn't have the outdoor set this week.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

So it must have been raining in Southern California or something.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

They had to like Alaska. But yeah, this was they don't have an exercise. They don't have an exercise teacher, so I guess Julie doing it, but I don't know. She's never done it before.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

No. She just stop it. Ugh. They just throw different responsibilities on her, like all you know, willy-nilly when it when it's convenient.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

Well, and the other thing is too, for Julie to basically be the the woman in the first three or four scenes of this, and then you never go back to it. Nope. Which was weird. So she was busy being she was busy being mom in the other in the other storyline.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

That is true. I didn't think about the fact that she just sort of dropped it.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Yeah. What's the problem? They run into this a lot with Stubing. When they have two storylines that one of the cast members is in, right. Sometimes they'll have different attitudes in the two storylines. And it's very confusing. This wasn't a big deal. Stubing gets this a lot where he's like a hard ass in one and yeah, yeah. We see that. Light in the other one, but it's like that old, but you know, they need rough exterior. Sometimes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

So Mark and Vicky are sitting together by the pool. A woman, and I'll just say much older than Vicky, but age appropriate for Mark. I know Bikini asked Mark for his autograph, and goodbye, Mark. Goodbye, Mark.

unknown 46:11

Where do you go?

SPEAKER_01 46:12

This is the one where Vicky this one where Vicki's like pretty blatant or pretty obvious. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

Like like she was, yeah. Doc and Gopher try to console Vicky, who's well, at least, yeah. I I still have mixed feelings about the storyline. It's still making it.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Oh no. It's it it's it's I would say it's all bad till Vicky and Julie have that first scene in Vicky's room. I think after that, after that it kind of gets really.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

I thought Stoobing landed the Vicky plane this week.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

I think they both did. I think this was I have some thoughts on the the Julie piece of it, but up until then, Mark was just if they wanted to get across what they were saying, he should have said, Thank you so much for the tour, you're a great girl, maybe I'll see you around or something like that, and then she pushes it too far, whatever, right? Like we've all seen these episodes. Right. For him to basically like God, it almost felt like he was leaning her on a little bit, which isn't want to like close the door, which is yeah, and you Vicky's 12. I'm sorry, like if they're the 12th. Vicky's 12. Yeah, so yeah, that's that was just that wasn't great. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 47:29

And with that, we go to our first commercial break. Remember last week on the episode, we should probably never bring up again. The first commercial break was at 12 minutes in. I could say this is huge. This is uh I think it was like you know 14 and change, much more normal pacing of the episode.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Mike, I this this is this is the indication of the difference between this week and last week is I never looked at the timer on this episode. Never worried about how much time I had left. Just never, never, never thought about it.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

Yeah, I I agree. It was an easy watch multiple times for me.

SPEAKER_01 48:01

Went down smooth, went down smooth.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

Yeah. Oh, we're back from break. We're in Vicky's cabin, and what a mess. She's getting dressed for dinner, rollers in her hair. I I'm gonna dance around it because uh so Julie arrives with some clothes for Vicky, and they talk about quote unquote growing pains.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

Show me that's my little game. No place to love, live in all your crimes.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

I was a fan of that show. I thought I would Alan thick rules.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

I'm a guarantee you that thing doesn't hold up, but the first few seasons were very good. But current, I mean uh you know what happened? When Kurt Cameron turned into Elmo basically, and they put the whole show around him, it really changed it. But you know, so yeah, I was a Ben.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

I was a Ben guy, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:56

I liked the third guy, not boner, the other one, the other friend.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

So I couldn't believe they got away with saying that.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Boner to Bone?

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Boner, like on, you know, I'm surprised Kirk Cameron went for it. Well, this was probably before I think he met his wife on that show, like later on.

SPEAKER_01 49:16

Yeah, yeah, she was racist something. Some dark hair, because it wasn't the blonde hair girl that he did R Town with. I think that was when I stopped watching, basically, was after that.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

So it was such a poignant performance of R Town. It was like, you know what? Fiend Food Great theme song, though.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Great theme song, great theme song. And listen, Joanna Kearns has given us a gift. Joanna Kearns has given us a gift that has lasted us the whole show.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

We're three years later. We're still we're still getting we're still Kearnsing. Wouldn't that be great if it came an actual term?

SPEAKER_01 49:51

Oh, are they even credits anymore?

SPEAKER_00 49:54

The guy that had the you know, jump the shark thing, if that's the vernacular.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

Oh, if we end up in urban dictionary or something, us and Joanna Kearns.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

Us and Joanna Kearns. She'd be shocked to know. You know, it's not a it's not a dig on Joanna Kearns.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

It's not a dig, it's a it's a compliment because we were mad that she wasn't in the in the credits.

unknown 50:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:14

We it was such an egregious mistake that we named it a you know, what is it a Kearns, reverse Kearns, and plot and plot curns.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

Plot curns. Yeah. A lot of currency.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

That'll be on our that'll be on the Lubboat Project Wikipedia section.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Julie gives Vicky an updo. And this Mike, this is a lot for dinner. This is a lot for dinner.

SPEAKER_01 50:41

Well, I think she's trying to like just help out.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

I mean, yeah, that'll do it if you're trying to brush your hair straight up. That'll that'll add first of all.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

You better get ready for this. Second of all, I don't even want to. Second of all, I thought this. So it's dicey because especially coming off of last week and everything, it's like uh well, I'll just say it now. So Julie, I thought, did a good job of having a real conversation. It wasn't I got worried that it was gonna be like the child version of when she was talking to Shelly Hack a couple weeks ago and like all this, but it was really good advice. Julie was very pragmatic about it. She did talk, she talked Vicky down a little bit. She didn't try to like selfless. It really was. Yeah. And between this scene and then kind of the other ones that go on, it made me think if this was well, I know I always say if this was a better show, but what I really mean is if this was a modern show that thought about plotting the same way you do today. Sure. Is there a world where the last episode of this season would have Julie maybe there's one more like mothering kind of thing before the end of the season? And then she kind of has a self-reflecting moment and she kind of does a juxtaposition of the beginning of the year and the whole time that she kind of like with it now, sort of well, just that well, a really good show would say I'm ready for parenting, I'm ready to be a mom based on all this stuff, and that's what your next season leads to. Well, that's that's only a thing. But the point is, if if you really wanted to save quote unquote Julie's season, you could you could get there based on what they've done without having to do too much.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

Like give her just a little redemption. Well, if you if you can't like tap dancing about it, but like just like give it reason, give it some sort of like it's okay. You went you had to go down this road instead of this road, but look where this you look what you did as a result or something.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

No, you know what I mean. Now, do I think it's what I would want the Julie character to be to essentially be the surrogate mother for Vicky? No, of course not. And I really would hope that that doesn't lead to anything that we really don't want to see, even for one episode, but it's something, I guess, which is sad. Now, you could also go the reverse way. A good show would do this, where she's like, I didn't want to be a mom. I gave up the man in my dreams, and here I am doing it for my boss. You know, it's like there's a version of that, too. I don't think they'll do either, but it's nice to make that show in your head sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 53:24

So I don't think they want to make a commitment. It's such a weird I'm very curious to see uh beginning of next season how they treat Julie.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

Yeah, no she has now become it's gonna be weird. She has now become like early season two stubing in terms of they don't really have a direction. I'd like to see where they go. Uh yeah, I'd like to see where it goes because it could go a lot of places, but I don't think 26-year-old fake mom Julie McCoy is the character either, but they've kept her pretty pretty chaste this season.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

So and I think that like turning 30 then was a much bigger deal. She's 26. No, I know, I know. I'm just saying, she's closing in on that. I wonder if they who knows. I yeah. I don't know. I I do miss the old Julie. I think the Chanot thing just Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

Which again, which again is fine if that's what they're doing, but you you also there's no way. Give her something. Well, the weird thing is there's no way we're never gonna see Julie classic romance attempt, Julie, right? There's no way they're never gonna do that. So to have this long lull, much like the Isaac stuff we were talking about, is also very weird.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

Well, Ralph Mouth's coming back. I mean, maybe that's Mark.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Well, one of the writers of this story, one of the storylines this week wrote a season's next season storyline with the ominous title Julie's decision.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

So uh okay, so that's what she's leaving the ship for another job.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

I don't know. I just I just I'm trying to stay away from like next season stuff. I like to I'd like to go a little fresh.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

So uh do do do do do sorry about that. So welcome to the coral dining room. Uh-oh. What is going on here? Inventory time. Flaming sorts of meat, flaming swords of meat, little Greek flags and posters that say Grease. Well shit, Mike, it must be Greek night again in the old coral dining room.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

Was that Greek music? I was trying to place it. It didn't seem like Greek music. I don't know what was going on. Nobody broke a plate. Larry Dallas wasn't there.

SPEAKER_00 55:39

And no meat came off the flaming sword. It's like it's not like a photo to chow or like where we went that one time and ate in you know, five minutes. Nobody's eating that meat. Um, and then I was like, is that the did they literally use the same footage? I don't think that they did.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

I don't think so. This felt more this felt more flamboyant, like more flash. So Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

Enter Peter and Cat Peter and Karen. Peter has a sock on the end of his cast, and I can appreciate you keeping those toes covered in a dining room. Mike.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Tom, right?

unknown 56:12

Tom.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

Who's Peter? Why did I scrap? Oh, the rest of my notes I refer to him as Peter.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Oh, I've done that before, too. Peter.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

Peter. Peter. That's gonna be confusing. Yeah, oh boy. I'll just try to remind myself. Tom has a sock on his cast.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

Tom Peter.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

Tom Peter. And it's funny, you know, and I can appreciate him doing that. Mike, I was in an airport restaurant during a layover recently. And it was a table for two right next to me. Two women, one of them's eating, one's done eating, and she's filing her nails like over. And I don't know what I've never seen that before in that context.

SPEAKER_01 56:55

And I was just like airport, airport behavior is just people need to remember you're still in society.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

Like it's like you're throwing nail dust everywhere. Like, what are we doing here? What why would you people are eating in theory? Well, I mean, it's a food place. Let's maybe it wasn't a restaurant, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

Maybe they were like, maybe they weren't gonna let her on the plane if she had sharp nails.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

Oh, you gotta they only have to be certain. Oh, by the$28 breakfast sandwich.$28 breakfast sandwich.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

What was what was it made of?$27? It was cool.

SPEAKER_00 57:29

Yeah, it was it was two tens of five and eight quarters. And an egg. And a yeah, and a runny. Everybody loves runny egg. Woo! It's terrible. Isaac takes a tumble when he trips over Tom's crutch. Hello. This is gonna be fun. Isaac tells him not to worry about it. He's getting used to it. Tom and Karen head to their table, and Isaac says, they should put bells on you. Again, funny.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

The crew is like, ugh, these idiots. Like the whole time they're just bagging on him.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

So Tom tells Karen that they make a great team, tells her that after dinner, in the interest of passenger safety, geez, they should go back to his cabin. And Karen like sort of says yes without saying yes. I was like, is that a Swedish thing?

SPEAKER_01 58:22

Well, he also said right before that, it was some something along the lines of what I'm thinking about is dangerous for you, or something like that. What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_00 58:32

Like geez, what's going on in Twitter Peter's room?

SPEAKER_01 58:39

He made a good point, though. He was like, if you know smooth, if if you can't, if you don't like it, you can run away. I'll never catch you, which is which is true. So go ahead and try.

SPEAKER_00 58:52

Peter's a smooth character. Tom Peter. Tom Peter. Tom Peter, smooth as they come. Stubing sees Vicky as she enters the dining room and he gets up from his seat at the captain's table like she's glowing in the dark or something. Come on. Number one, okay. Tells her that she looks lovely, introduces the table to Vicky, who handles it like she's the duchess of being late for dinner.

SPEAKER_01 59:17

Please everyone sit. Please, everyone sit down.

SPEAKER_00 59:20

Well, I will say this. They're eating dessert. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

Couple a couple notes on the table because God knows we focus on it enough. It's been in the same spot for a few weeks, I think at least. It's kind of like in that lower. He was weird. It's like at four or five o'clock right now. So it's kind of yes, they did.

SPEAKER_00 59:41

Where Stubing was sitting.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

Well, they had to flip it because he is talking to two nameless people when it opens up. And then weird, Doc comes down and says, Hi Meryl. If you're ever gonna actually say captain, say it at the captain's table.

SPEAKER_00 59:58

So yeah, I don't I don't get that either.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

That was uh as fleshed out a as fleshed out a captain's table as we've seen in a while. Only half the people were crew.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

Not two tables with one tablecloth. I know what you're doing there.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

Like a German beer hall. You want one of those tables?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:15

Just late. You should have something. Like make it a thing. It's it shouldn't look like every other table, but two of them. Just garbage. Mark walks up in a terrible tuxedo, Mike. This thing is not stinks.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

It's because he's been knee, he's been knee-deep in ladies all day. That's why. That thing was in a like sweat and opium. That thing was in a closet like 20 minutes ago.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:43

On the floor, crumpled. My name's Mark. I used to have a tuxedo jacket on.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:49

This episode is my horn dog nominations on my stubby ballot were looking pretty thin. Everybody is out to get some this. There's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:58

We're just getting started.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:00

Is this like zapped or something? Like this is like an 80s sex comedy.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

It really is. It's like, why who who switched this episode with the movie Hard Bodies? What's going on?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

There are literally 10 characters without thinking about that try to get some in this episode, including the 12-year-old. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

Mark tells Vicky that he almost didn't recognize her. Good one, Mark. You're full of shit, Mark. You're a villain, sir. Ask her to save him a dance on the Leto deck. Vicky asked to extend her curfew. I kind of had a problem here, and Stubing says yes, and I'm like, what? He's pretty strict on that curfew. What do you think the curfew is? What do you think the curfew is?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:42

They say it later, 10 o'clock. 10 o'clock. They say it later in the episode. 10 o'clock.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

So what's an extension? An hour?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

4 a.m. New York bar closed time.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

As long as you're in your room before the sun crosses the sea, you know, he'll give some sympathy.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:58

If I don't hear the crickets.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:00

By the third seagull.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:03

By the fourth donut.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

No kidding.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

As the crawler flies.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

He just spins crawlers to make decisions. Vicki sees Mark with another woman, again, much older than Vicky. Seems age appropriate. Vicky looks heartbroken. Stubing looks up from his pudding, which shocked me. Are you not going to finish that? What do you have there? Rice pudding, sir?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

Uh what do I got to be a parent?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:32

It's like, damn it, can I just get that sneak that last bite in before I got to deal with something? Fun fact, I had rice pudding today. As a matter of fact, first time in a long time. Huge fan of rice pudding.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:44

I don't think I like rice pudding. Also, I don't know that that was a fun. I don't think that was a fun fact.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

When I think rice pudding, I think nothing but fun. I love rice pudding. I don't know that I do. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

I don't know that I do. I think when I was a kid I think when I was a kid, I had like maybe bad rice pudding. Maybe I'm thinking of bread pudding. I don't know. Maybe I was always just turned off. I think I was always just turned off by pudding as a kid that wasn't yellow pudding.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

So like from the store or at home when you had that like skin on top? Both. Both. The good pudding. Doctor. Dr.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:19

Cosby's pudding.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:21

Take him to Yeah, absolutely. No, that was a terrible Cosby impression. I realized it was a terrible idea, and I tried to bring the words back in my mouth, but it didn't work. Oh boy. And no one's listening. What are we doing? Nobody could just say anything. No, I'm not kidding. Terrible.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:42

I mean, I went to school where he went to school. You can't do that bad impression.

unknown 1:03:45

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Sorry, Bill C. Vicky decides to call it a night, and it wouldn't be possible for her to hang her head any lower. I don't know if this is method acting. They were like, look sad. Sadder? Sadder. Her head just got lower and lower.

unknown 1:04:03

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

I thought she was really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:06

I thought so.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

And I thought she was really good last week, too. They really had her do a lot of stuff the last couple weeks. The cult episode was terrible, but the they really have had her do a lot of stuff these last couple weeks.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:18

She's yeah, I mean, she really kind of hit the ground running. I feel like they kind of knew apparently they knew what they were getting because she's Mr. Massey is bookless and he's in the Pirates Cove. And everybody's smooching today, Mike. They must be giving out two first. Everybody's smooching and cavorting, and it's wild. It's an ecstasy boat. Just what is going on? This is the cruise.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:44

It's friggin' Easter, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:46

Good lord. Have you heard the good news? Jeez. Guess who's back? No, none of you care. None of you care. Mr. Massey asked Doc and Isaac how they deal with this on every cruise. Quote, mental discipline and cold showers. And pills. And so in tranquilizers. I didn't number one and ten.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:12

I did like that part of it because that's like something that I could see a horny guy asking that question, you know, in a way that I thought that was interesting. That has not come up very often. That was that was interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:26

So I'm just glad they didn't throw branding in there. Because you could have, you know, hey, on the love boat, it could have been like you know what you're getting on the love boat trademark.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:35

I guess they have a limit of like three an episode, but it just infuriates me every time.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:40

I feel like it's like that thing if when the uh you know that the Sixers games, if they miss two, you got a free frosty.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:46

Oh, bricking for chicken and stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:48

They're they're towing the line, maybe bricking for, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:51

Well, I feel like it's it's a it's a matter of time before either they do it dead into the camera or we're gonna get like a Princess Cruise line commercial. Like, I mean we Which again, I have no problem with it at all if they just would have started it from some actual thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:07

Like make it right, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:09

But I And you know what you know what episode I realized it's uh because I'm listening to it now for the stubbies, is the French couple that were missing for 40 years and all that stuff. Right, and they made a whole like news story out of it. That should have been where it came from.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

Oh, you know what? That's a great point.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:28

And that's it. That's all you need. That's it. Is this and and you do some lame thing where the reporter at the end is like some people are saying you could call this the low boo, and then like stooping looks at Doc and they wink or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:42

Oh look, yeah, no, no. Yeah, that's perfect. That's perfect. Because then you're toe in the line of giving yourself a nickname, which we all have problems with.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

Right. This right, right.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:53

Because you'd give yourself a cool nickname.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:55

It'd be great. It would be great if they do it one time in front of a either a passenger or like maybe like one of those like ship executives or something like that, and they're just like, what the hell are you talking about? This is called the Princess Cruise Line.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:09

Retraining? Like, would you know what ship you're on?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:12

It's not the love boat.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

What are you talking isn't that a point of pride as a captain? I'm the captain of Ba Buh. Like, why would you even you know what I mean? Like, welcome to the Pacific Princess, you know, where miracles happen every hour.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:25

Like, yeah, it's like being the captain of the it's like being the captain of that candy line or something. Like it's just like that's yeah, and it's not like every every and again, if you want to sell some version of like, and there's a little bit of magic, and that would explain a lot of the stuff, but like there are a bunch of storylines where love does not exist.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

No, you know, like I try to kill the guy on Christmas with a group to shoot him, put love in the air. That's it. If it wasn't for those kids singing, geez, you know, I mean, come it. Yeah, I don't like it. It's again, it just goes back. You can't give yourself your own nickname and then use it as like your gift. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:08

Yeah, that's that's really the main thing. And now everybody except Julie and Vicky have said it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:14

So it's dumb. Mr. Massey decides to go see a movie. Uh oh, Mike. He doesn't know that the movie he's about to go see is called La Passion. La Passion.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:26

So we'll see what that's like. Uh, we're in Tom's room, Tom's cabin with Karen. Tom opens a bottle of champagne, the cork hits Karen on the side of the head.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:37

Speaking of the Jinx episode, yeah. We haven't seen we haven't seen a corking like that since Isaac almost killed Julie.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

That is true. That is true.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:45

Would have been great if they would have busted out one of those skin patches.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:51

And then I was thinking, I had this thought, like, what do you think this guy does for a living? This accident-prone gentleman, what could he possibly do?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:01

Trying to think. Because at first, when they were talk when he was loading up the champagne the way he was talking, I thought he was a bartender. I am gonna say he is a stunt double for the guy in Hardcastle and McCormick.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:15

That's a great guess. Stockbroker. No, I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:23

He doesn't really allude to anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:26

Peter bends over to look at the wound and he poured champagne all over. Tom, Peter. Damn it. Karen stands up and bumps her head into Tom's face. Tom's mad libs now. They start smooching until there's a knock at the door. Not a lot of smooching time for these two so far.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

No. No, it's gotta be hard to like get your get your base with the crut with the crutch and the cast and everything. She's not that tall.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:57

It's uh just it's gopher. He has a telegram for Tom. Karen hands it to Tom, and he has collapsed on the bed at this point. And Tom, this is the second time we're seeing this this this season. Tom, there is a robe on the back of the door. Why don't you change? And he got it. Asking that woman in the to go put on that Japanese robe on the back.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:24

I can't wait to see you in that kimona.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

Why don't you put it on?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:31

All this is happening in front of Gopher, by the way. No one cares. Like he's just standing there.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:37

He's still there. Tom reads the telegram. It says that the insurance company denied his claim. I don't think they would telegram a claim status to a shortest shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:50

You don't think that the insurance agency that we find out in a couple seconds here is basically going out of business. Right, would take the time. Yeah. Right. Would would take the time to fire off a telegram from California to God knows where to let them know we're not paying it? Like, wouldn't that go to the house?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:11

Please go to the house because they're not paying it. They don't care how soon you know they're not paying it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

Please forward all my mail to the ship. It's very important.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:21

This guy. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:22

Love boat, care of gopher. Stupid.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:26

I got this guy. Tom is pissed. He says he'll sue her and her insurance company. Karen, who's not in the robe, who did not do as instructed and put the robe on. Well, it all happened so fast. Wrapped in a who wraps in a towel? How hard is it to put a robe on? You just let me just throw a robe on. She said she threw a towel. Like, don't they always say, Let me just throw a robe on?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:50

I think she was coming out, no robe. Oh, like and then she heard the yelling. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:54

Check it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:57

My Swedish birthday robe.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:59

This is a Swedish birthday robe. Goal.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:05

That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:07

Swedish birthday robe. That's fine. Mr. Merrill is not enjoying the movie. It's all couples and more smooching going on.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:14

Well, I mean, I think he was, I think he was enjoying it. That was the problem. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

He just too much. Women biting napkins, breaking plastic spoons in their mouth. They're laying it on thick in La Peschanista.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:28

This is basically all it needed was the John Ritter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:34

He has to get out of there. And we get this sped-up Benny Hillcam showing uh him back in his cabin, and he walks right into the shower.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:45

This is where this is where I kind of felt like this is where I realized a little more of a comedic presence. Not that this guy did anything wrong, but it was just like it was a little deadpan. I think the other problem was he kept reminding me of a little bit younger version of the Dallas Cowboy, the father, who the fiancé thought was sleeping with the daughter. Oh it kind of reminds me of him.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:13

So I didn't even get that. He just kind of just reminded me of just like, you know, thug number two. Just not uh didn't really have any like distinguishing features.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:23

Like I'm just trying to think, like a um who was Convey's sidekick in the Charlie's Angels? Like he would have been great. Yeah, somebody like that. Wes Anderson, like somebody like that, just a like a little bit younger and maybe a little more just prone to the comedy just didn't land totally, but it was fine. I mean, it was it was great John Ritter one. But that was what have been too much, I wonder.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:49

Yeah, I'm trying to think who would be who would have been good. I I don't have anybody off the top of my head, and again, and this guy it was not a fatal flaw. No, this is also probably an indication of this season. We've talked about it a lot being the season of the olds. Is I'm looking for somebody that's like 30 years old. Right. And we just haven't had anybody in that range this year that was any good.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:11

So even this Mr. Merrill character doesn't come across that young. I mean he's got the you know, salt and pepper. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:17

Oh, I'm sure he's like 50.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:19

Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:21

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:21

They'll probably say he's like 46, but you know he's that dude's those women.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:26

I guess actually, you know what though? I was gonna say those women's weird back then.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:29

I it's almost like it was better if you were older back then.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:32

Those women, I would say those I would say they were relatively age appropriate. Maybe the one was a little young, but for the most part, I think the women were actually pretty age appropriate for that guy. So that wasn't the issue.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:43

Was the uh a big gap in age then a little more appropriate because w women were sort of viewed differently?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:51

Well, I don't know if you heard earlier, but the perfect age is six to seven years for a man to be older. That's from Merrill Stubing, sir.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:59

What do I have?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:00

Well Yeah, I know you're close.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:03

Close. I'm close.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:04

You're close.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:06

You're not close. Alright, back from break. Uh we are poolside. Vicki hides her face behind a book as Mark walks by with a lady. Oh boy. Doc walks up, sits down the pool deck. In white shorts, Mike. In white shorts, you're gonna sit on that wet pool deck.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:26

Yeah, Doc doesn't care.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:27

Like you're lucky he's got shorts on. That's true. That's true. Usually it's just pajama pants only. Uh and then I was thinking, well, they should have like their uniform should have like a if they're in shorts, it should be like a bathing suit. But then I was like, they didn't know what wicking meant in 1980.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

Like that the it's it's just the immediate default to the shorts.

unknown 1:15:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:51

Like that's the uniform. Like they spend more time in the shorts than anything, would be my guess, which is just a terrible look.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:57

Well, that's why the black pants look so good, because they're not the shorts and you don't get to see them very often.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:02

They have that and they have the stupid short dinner jackets. It's like some of these wardrobes are terrible.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:07

So I'm not a fan of that short jacket. Oh, and then it brought me to my next question. Like, why doesn't why can't Isaac wear shorts as part of his of his uniform? You're not even gonna see him, he's behind the bar.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:18

I mean, you bartended, did you would you want to wear shorts behind the bar? That'd be a sticky mess, I would assume.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:24

I mean, you're outside. Glass. Yeah, but you got shoes on. It's not like you're you know, kneeling on the ground.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:31

I just think it's uh I don't think I'd want to have shorts on behind the bar.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:36

That would be my I think I'm just a shorts guy. I love wearing shorts.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

Well, it's your carefree attitude. That's because you're such a hacky sacker.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:43

It is true. Some say it's a devil may care attitude. Live life, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:49

Yeah, shorts, Swedish birthday robe.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:52

So maybe flip-flops, maybe not. We'll see what happens. Swedish birthday robe. That's right. Vicky, doc, what uh Vicky says, Doc, what is it about women that attracts you most? Doc. What attracts me most is a woman's mind. Yeah, nothing gets to me more than a woman's mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:12

This is where they turned it correctly, right? Like this was they everything, like I said, everything past that first Julie thing, they got it straight away. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:22

Yeah, doc is doing exactly what he should be doing. It's perfect, and it's funny too.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:27

But in an innocent sort of way, the way he exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:30

This is what that's why it just makes the first couple scenes so weird, like stick out, such a miss.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:36

Did you guys need a reshoot on those?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:38

Like, what yeah, did anybody think about what you were saying? Did the did he did did your boy Rex Smith just deliver it wrong? Like, did he adlib? Did he go off book?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:48

Like something. He just was overwhelmed. I don't know. Vicky says, What about their figures? Doc, all figures are fine. I've always been a brain man myself.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:59

That made me laugh. That was really funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:02

He says this, and a woman of bikini walks up to doc. Doc stands up between her and him and explains that they're going down to his cabin to play chess.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:11

Wonderful. Vicky sees Mark leaving one girl for another. Uh, the girl he left is crushed by this. Vicky walks up, tells her that men are fickle. Look at you. Wise beyond your years. Mark walks up to Vicky and tells her not to get too much sun and walks away with the new girl. What a dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:32

Don't get too much sun girls. He lumps the other girl in with Vicky, which is the ultimate. Yeah, that's the ult. That's why she gets so pissed.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:41

She's like, oh, I might as well be 12.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:43

Right. And she also says after last night, which makes me think this guy banged her and then just lumped her together with Vicky.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:53

And then just got up and just walked away. On to the next one. Hey, can you put lotion on my back?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:59

When you're the Prince of Pop, when you're the when you're the Prince of Pop, like Rex Smith.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:05

Oh, this is how Michael Jackson was doing it. I mean, he's the you know, he is the Prince of Pop. Can you imagine him? He must have just gone through. Excuse me. Vicky sees Mark. I already said that because I'm distracted by bringing up Michael Jackson. In front of a boat. Vicky and the latest girl to get crushed, who's now crying and she runs away from the pool area. Look at Mark. Where's your love boat now stewing? Yeah. The cry boat. Yep. Julie and Isaac walk over to Vicky. Julie asks if Vicky's alright. Vicki says, growing pains. Julie knows what that means. Isaac says the lady that left doesn't have any more growing to do. But you boom.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:55

As long as we got each other.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:58

Vicky, men, you're all alike. Yeah, that was good too.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:02

Again, that was good. They did a really they did it really well. They really did. They pulled it out of the they pulled it out of the fire because I was worried early.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:15

We are in the Seawind Spa slow camera shot of a woman exiting the very dangerous hot tub very slowly. That was a little awkward. She walks up to Mr. Massey, who's now trying to row away his frustrations.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:31

Was that Norditrek? Is that Boplex?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:34

Just so simple and primitive. He gets up from the rowing machine. The woman asked him to dry her back. That's I said that's a bit much.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:42

That's a little oh this chick was ready to go. Yeah. I don't know if you heard, Mike. She was in quarantine. She was in good Angela. Her name is Angela. I checked.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:54

She was in quarantine, Mike. Oh, for well, I mean six weeks. Yeah. Six whole weeks of yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:01

I feel like six weeks in April of 1980 was like 12 weeks now, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:06

Is that how that works with inflation?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:09

This was it's like four times, I think, at least. So it's 24 weeks.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:14

She says she's been locked away for a long time and she wants to catch up on socializing. Yeah, she does. Mr. Massey says six weeks. She suggests that they discuss it over orange juice. Mike, they're in the right place. This is giant glasses of juice. Uh, what kind of juice would you like? Orange juice or orange juice. It's 1980.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

Whether you're training for the Olympic gymnast competition or your fiance just got diagnosed with a life-debilitating disease, there's never a time that you can't get a big old glass of gigantic orange juice.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:55

Because we're on a cruise, that's what we do. We do giant glasses.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:59

Is it pulpy? Yes. We did not have technology to take the pulp out back then.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:03

It's actually more bitter than sweet, to be totally honest with you. But nevertheless, yes, it hurts to drink. It's not even the oranges aren't fresh per se. But yeah. She says, Wow, let's play whose court. Jesus, Angela. Yeah. Angela. Angela. Yeah. He asked her if she would mind signing a form. She could care less about a form. Mr. And he excuses himself to go get one of the forms. She tells him to hurry. We get the Benny Hill camera.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:36

Finds the form brings it back. Yeah, the form thing, I get what they were going for. They didn't really land that plane. Like you had one person kind of turn their nose up, but not that much. No. You know, it was just like this this all happened in like 30 seconds. The form thing was they could have gotten, they could have gotten to the same place without the physical form. It should have been something else.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:58

So if he goes back to his place, he's got the form there.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:01

Exactly. Why don't you put it in your breast pocket if you're that worried about it?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:04

Or put it in that stupid book you carry around, except when you go to the spa. He finds the form. We see him entering the spa again. Angela is gone.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:16

Smooching in the in the sometimes deadly hot tub with somebody else. It was the guy that was eyeing her up, the balding man that was eyeing her up as good spot.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:27

Good spot. Boy, back right back in the hot tub.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:30

That is that is mermaid of sorts. Yeah. That's yeah. She said my place are you. Like, what do you how how far do you plan on going? That's a public hot tub, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:40

I mean, I think her place is the I think her place is the hot tub. I think she was gonna bang that dude in the hot tub.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:46

Jesus. Where do you sleep? I sleep amongst yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:49

I oh listen. Angela, Angela's on the on the ballot, but so are like nine other people on this episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:55

Yeah, it's a it's a yeah. Who knew that this category would be so stupid?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:01

Yeah, this is like uh when you ever look back, it's like, oh, Godfather 2, 400 nominations. It's like this episode's got all the Horndog nominations.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:12

Gopher talks to Karen about the issue with Tom. She says that she really liked him and thought it was mutual. Karen says that he was counting on that money to pay for the trip.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:25

Which I learned by him yelling at me about it. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:29

Which is a weird she can't convince him that it wasn't her fault. But then I'm like, well, what wasn't your fault? The accident or the insurance company not paying the claim?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

The second part, because I think he says whatever you told them is what caused that. I mean, I would assume either insurance adjusters are looking into both our histories and nobody should get any money, or the shady company, which is clearly shady, just lied and then got caught on it somehow.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:00

So or Karen was drunk and they and they found that out while she was gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:04

They're like, drunk on Swedish Swedish. I don't know what they what's a Swedish drinker. Nerm de fleurs.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:14

A lot of yeah, a lot of elderberry type things, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:17

Melted snow, melted alpine snow.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:20

Melted snow, hundred proof snow delicious. Vicki goes to talk to Stubing about I'm sorry, Julie goes to talk to Stubing about Vicky, and Julie says it's her first big crush. She needs some guidance. She offers to talk to Vicky. Stubing says no, thank you. And he'll handle that. Love it. I love this right here.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:41

Love that Julie noticed it enough to go say it. Loved Stubing's reaction, yeah. You know, and and to take it because he's right. This is a chance for both of them. We we're both we're both parents. It's there's definitely stuff you don't want to do the first couple times, but you gotta you gotta figure out who how it works. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:59

But good for him, knowing that this is the this is what you need to do. This is the thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:03

Exactly. And it's funny, I can't decide if I think this episode should have come before last week or not.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:10

Next week should have never or last week should have just never happened.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:13

Well, that I agree with, but it's like, should this have been a few weeks ago, and then they have a better version of the custody thing, and they don't have the crazy hijinks, and then you have some evidence that they have a system that kind of works.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:28

I do agree, and I and I I'll take it a step further. Like, this is clearly like a building block to that parental, you know, relationship and how to like navigate these things. I would have punted that custody thing to like end of next year or something. That'd have been a cliffhanger or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:46

Like, what's gonna be oh, that would have been a good cliffhanger. That's a good point. That would have been a good cliffhanger.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:54

Give it a cliff, a season four cliffhanger, you know. Is she gonna be back? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:59

And that's how it ends, is like, you know, oh my god, that would have been a really good cliffhanger.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:03

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:03

Are we ever gonna get a cliffhanger? The show's not built for it, but they could do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:09

I mean, you could. I don't know. I I think it would work. Well, I really wish they had done a cliffhanger now. It's too easy, man. It's too easy, and then you you you build that foundation for oh, they're a parent. Yeah, is it is it a normal sort of thing? No, but she's you know getting all this advice and blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:28

Uh could have been a good clip show. At the end of the scene when Julie like gives Stubing a smooch on the cheek and says, you know, make sure you start by telling him, telling her that he's she's got a good dad and everything. And then Julie does the thing that she's done a few times this season that I think is just hilarious. She's obviously having a personal conversation with a person she knows and works with, right? Right. But at the end of it, she says, Bye bye. She just gives like the crew, she gives the crew Bye bye. She Bye bye somebody. A couple weeks ago. Same deal. It was just, it's hilarious. She can't help herself.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:05

It works into like normal conversations. Bye-bye. She can't help it. She's pro that's how she got the job. She delivers a great bae-bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:13

She does. Bad hello's great bye-bye's.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:16

We go to our third commercial break. We're back. Mr. Massey's in the Pirates Cove, and he's not reading or rowing for him. Asks a woman to go back to his cabin with him. He's sharing like a booth with her.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:31

He's like, no more, no more chit-chat. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:33

Yeah, let's screw this. Says that he has something for her to sign, and she says the check.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:39

Yeah, that was funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:40

That was good. He hands her the form and she she just looks appalled. Turns around and get a pen out of his jacket and she's gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:47

You had to have somebody you know be offended by this.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:51

This was because that sets the extra questions, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:55

It's funny, as worried as I was early that this was going to be like women bashing and stuff, they didn't do any of that. I actually could have gotten a little bit more of a pushback than they did.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:04

So they actually were very I feel like they should have gotten more pushback. A little bit. A little bit, I agree. Yeah. Tom walks into the cove, orders a double bourbon with a cyanide chaser. Alright. Isaac says, I don't know how to make that. No. Tom explains to Isaac now in his disco owl uniform and tells him that he screwed up. I love a conversation with Isaac that's a bartender patron. Let me discuss avoided I love the dynamic of that in the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:39

It is the it might be the best thing they actually do. A hundred percent. I can't think of one that was bad, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:47

No, no, it just works. It works something about you know, I think that they cast the right guy for Isaac and he just works.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:57

And he always, and again, it's like whoever played Tom, don't know who he is, whatever. But but Isaac has also done this with big acting people, too. It's like well, no, that's like that's not who I was thinking of immediately. Yeah, Rosie Greer is who I think of when we go to the highest cat. You see what I'm saying? Like I'm kind of going to like good actors, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:28

So Tom asks how Karen could forgive him. Isaac has a thought. He tells him to go find her and tell her that you're sorry. Hello, Captain Obvious. What are we doing here? Go hobble your way around the thing and go apologize. Tom said she wouldn't listen to him, and we actually see Isaac pouring a drink for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:53

Why like weird? Well, you've known her for 15 minutes, right? You screwed up, you you know her well enough that she's not gonna listen. No, you're you're you're a scared dude. Just like like forget it. Like, you don't want to get rejected. Like, what do you have to what do you have to lose? What do you have to lose on this boat? Nothing.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:14

Nothing, but but why even go back to that? I don't want to deal with that. She's super accident prone. Why do I want to deal with that?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:20

Because he liked her. Like, I don't know if you know this, but this is the love boat.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:26

Oh, it's not the like boat.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:28

It's not the like boat, it's not the what could have been boat. Right. It's not the we were gonna have sex, but then my insurance agency sent a telegram and I got pissed at you and yelled and you left boat.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:42

And gopher's still standing there, boat. Yeah. Makes sense. Stubing knocks on Vicky's door. Uh he's gonna talk. He wants to talk to her about the mark situation.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:54

Parenting.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:55

Quote, I'd like it if you included me in what's going on in your life. This is what Stubing says to Vicky. I like that he said that. Vicki says that somebody his age couldn't understand. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. How old? How old is Stubing right now?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:12

Well, I wasn't I wasn't bowl in this. I wasn't bowl in this age.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:17

So just how old is he, would you say? I know we may have talked about it before. Would would you guess Stubing is?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:23

We we cooked him 10 years older than Gavin McLeod, so he is 58, 59 at this point. So the character.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:34

So yeah. Stubing tells Vicky that the Mark situation reminds him is of his first crush at age 12. The girl was 24. Again, same age difference. That's weird. Sixth grade teacher. She was just being nice, quote unquote, like Mark, and I misunderstood. This is a little weird to me here, like the misunderstood. And so Mark was just because I felt like Mark wasn't just being nice, like Mark was hedging his back.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:03

Well, right. This is this is the problem, is that all makes sense if they had done the first part right. Well, if they were both. It's not cons.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:12

Well, it's not consistent. Right. They didn't start this way.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:17

Right. But the point is, if Mark had said to Vicky at the end of the tour, thanks so much for the tour, you're really nice. Hey, if you're going up in the pool, maybe I'll be up there.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:25

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:26

That's it.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:27

That's it.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:27

And then she takes it wrong. That's that's it. The problem was his first reinteractions with her felt lewd.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:34

Yeah, yeah, I agree. He wasn't just trying to be nice. And if that's what he thought, then the basis for this conversation is really flawed, but it is what it is. He says the important thing is that you keep liking yourself just the way you are right now. I thought that was a nice way to handle it. And I wrote down.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:56

Don't go changing to try and please me.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:02

Alright, we're back. Back in the Pirates' Cove. Tom sitting at a table alone. Isaac standing with Gopher at the bar. Gopher leaves to go get Karen. Isaac hides Tom's crutches to keep him from leaving the cove. Hilarious. Now it is the moment that you've all been waiting for. Julie introduces Mark Redding to the Acapulco Lounge.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:28

Julie, Julie, with the absolute half and like so Julie literally says, ladies and gentlemen, a special treat, which made me think he wasn't, you know, booked. Mark Redding. That's it. She spent like 40 minutes talking about Donnie Hotzman.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:47

Yeah, she uh was weird. When I see you walking down the street, I remember everything about you. Oh so sweet. Warm and tender. Warm and tender.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:03

Ooh. Can't stop loving you. That's all I want to do with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:12

When you're when I see the sunlight in your hair, the moonlight in your eyes, suddenly. I know how much you really care. I realize, ooh, ooh, I can't stop loving.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:28

That's all I want to do. Every time I see you, hit it, Johnny.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:40

The uh lip sync styling sax solo that was very aggressive. It is. The drummer was playing after the song was over. I was like, come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:49

That saxophone reading here.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:51

Come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:52

That saxophone is like out of Huey Lewis in the news or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:55

That thing is just San Diego snippet or something. It's just a weird.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:01

I liked it. I I liked it. I I will say that. I will say this. I don't know what I'm gonna do. That category is weird this year, but it was the catchiest song of the season. And I think it was the best. Just if you just threw all those songs that we've heard this year on the radio with no context, you could see that being a song. No, no. Listen, I am leaning towards Slim Pickens and the turkey and the straw at this point.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:41

So yeah, the soundtrack for season three is not great. No, I mean we're not we're not done yet. Who who knows? Maybe the last episode is a 90-minute musical episode. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:53

Oh, that'd be great. We need I was hey, listen, it was a pleasant surprise. I wasn't expecting to hear a song.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:58

So it's amazing that this guy can sing as as well as he sings, and he also is able to handle a motorcycle that goes 300 miles an hour in about five years. That is uh that is quite skills.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:12

Every time I see you and accidentally run you over on the street.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:18

He has to pay such close attention going 300. He can't even like sing to himself.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:22

Do you just know how many people how many pedestrians would would have died in that city like at the hands of Streethawk?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:29

It's bugs. Like your whole visor would just be with just everything you ran into. You think that bird exploded when Randy Johnson hit it? Imagine hitting a bird at 300. I gotta see Street Hawk.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:42

Can we justify doing Street Hawk this early? If we find it, can we do it? I mean, I kind of want to find it. Oh, I gotta I gotta see this thing. I'm gonna I'll I'll find Streethawk, we'll do it, but I'm gonna sing every time I see you in the background the whole time. Whoa, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:03

You don't have to have to sing it over the roar of Streethawk.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:07

The death of helpless civilians.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:10

Mark Mark Redding. Mr. Massey is scared off another woman with his form. He sits at the bar. The woman next to him asks if he's into dancing. He said, There's no point, because he'll just have to bring up the form and then she'll split. She says, not necessarily. He says, You'll sign it, and she says, Yeah, why not? Everything's so easy on this boat. It's ridiculous. Everything's like, Yeah, sure, why not? It's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:39

Well, I guess, like, because the Lee Marvin thing is so prevalent, are these forms maybe more of a thing than we would realize? Or is the fact that the way the the way the way the episode ends, it also makes sense that she wouldn't be new to the forks.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:58

I agree. They were gonna flip this on its head.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:02

I think it would have been funny if Angela would have tried to sign a sopping wet form in the hot tub.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:08

That's a missed opportunity. Waterproof pencils and and everything else. Yeah, that would have been funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:14

Like she's just on top, she's on top of what's his name? Your boy Mark. Your boy Mark. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_00 1:39:25

Stubing is dancing with Vicky. Uh oh, I'm sorry. Mr. Massey and the woman stand up and he asks if they can skip the dancing and go right to the moonlight. Yeah. On board, but he leaves the form at the bar. This guy now some job, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:42

Now some form. Now some other guy is gonna have a woman sign that form.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:46

Well, he's just walking around with a pen, just pen only, like a dummy with nothing to use it on.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:52

I'm just happy to see her.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:53

Stubing's dancing with Vicky. Well, I wonder if if Isaac found that form, would wouldn't he just toss it out? Or what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:00

Yeah, it would just look like trash.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:02

Yeah, I would just toss it out. No more form.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:04

Yeah, I don't think that was like an embossed notarized legs.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:12

Sure. Oh, also, what does this guy do for a living to have all this money? Is he an actor? Like lawyer. That's crazy money.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:21

I think he's a Los Angeles lawyer. Okay. Makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:25

Stubing's dancing with Vicky. They leave the dance floor, and here comes old Mark. Stubing tells him that he enjoyed his performance. And I wrote, Really? But then I'm like, ah, Stubing loves the art.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:35

I really enjoyed your show, Bach.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:37

I I wish it was ballet, but that's fine. That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:41

Did you notice the canned applause at the end of Mark's thing?

SPEAKER_00 1:40:45

Well, canned applause that's sort of trailed off. Over mixed, they mixed it into the song.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:52

That's the first time we've seen this, but that is a very common version of. I've seen that a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:59

I've seen a lot too. They juice up the applause.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:01

Yeah. I don't like, I don't like that, but that's just the point. Yeah, like that was actually you could have just rolled out. Mark was done. So don't play Markov.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:10

Is it in the spirit of like laugh track sort of thing to sort of maybe like but I don't know, it doesn't add like a a period at the end of the sentence, you know what I mean? For that musical performance.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:22

Right. Because like we talked, we talked about if they don't actually end the song, we think it just goes on forever.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:28

Well, that's it. Nobody ever ends a song.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:31

Right. It's just everything's a reprise like two days later, and be like, that's the that's that's the cold open of the pilot episode of Street Hawk is just him finishing the song. Finish that. Can you imagine if it's playing on the motorcycle radio?

SPEAKER_00 1:41:46

Or that's the thing, like in Iron Eagle, remember? And he's like, Let me do it my way, chappy. You know, when he puts on his music, this is what he puts on for street hawking.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:57

Can't stop loving. He's just wasting street thugs.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:03

Just bugs all over it, just going forward.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:05

Just streethawking, just street hawking every part.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:09

Streethawking, looking for criminals and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:11

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:12

Uh Mark asks Vicky if she'd like to show him some new steps. Vicky says, sorry, I promised the next dance to Doc Bang.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:20

Sorry, I'm 12. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:23

That's inappropriate. Tom's still in the Pirates' Cove. He's looking for his crutches. Enter Karen with Gopher. She asks if Tom's okay. Gopher told Karen that Tom was in an accident. Had a head injury. He's two. He's two idiots. Isaac tells Tom he doesn't get his crutches back until he works it out with Karen. Tom laughs and grabs Karen's hand. Like he, Tom's just like, ah, like a crazy man who can't pay for his own cruise. I don't know what's going on here. Well, the best part.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:59

Well, Isaac said he would buy him a drink. The best part is Isaac says, you know, I forget how he gets there, but he's like, You're about to have another accident of the heart or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:12

I love the I love the uh the hesitation and then the payoff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:17

He was really good in that scene.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:18

So after Tom grabs Karen's hand, Isaac quickly this made me laugh too. He quickly removes all the glassware from the table, which is kind of made me giggle. Well done. Tom apologizes. They agree to never talk about the accident again. They've known each other for maybe twelve hours.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:38

I mean, they're gonna have to talk about it at some point, assuming he's gonna refile. I mean, yeah, I don't think that's gonna go away. He should have checked under his bed. Maybe there would have been like two grand he could have paid for it with.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:51

Maybe there's another telegram. Oops. Please disregard previous telegram. Or he's got one of those broken legs that just never heals, like Bob Wharton's arm. He just always reminded of Karen and her accident prone.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:03

I also wanted to ask about that. So that was a car accident. His right leg was injured. So that's not the driver's side leg.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:11

Yeah, he must have been passenger. I don't know how you would he flipped it like compli I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:16

Well, it was kind of the thing we talked about with a one-armed doctor. Yeah. He you know, it's like it was his right arm. So I don't know. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:27

Maybe he's just doing this because he needs a driver at this point. How's he gonna get around himself?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:34

Man, talk about talk about irony, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:37

I had a cast on and it was on my left leg, so I could still get driven around by Swedish people. Well, yeah, so it didn't really affect that, but yeah. But that's a different story for a different episode. Uh Tom apologizes. Okay, it looks like Tom swallowed Karen's earring now. Wow, so oh boy. These kids, these kids can't get out of their own way. Mr. Massey and his new newfound lady are dancing in his cabin. Things start to escalate. Mr. Massey decides not to use the form, and we go to our final We lost it, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:45:15

Because he left it. He realized he left it at but he realized it, and then he was like, screw it, right? Which which again, you could have been you could have been in the hot tub with Angela if you would just had that attitude, sir.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:25

You need to invent a time machine, sir. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:45:29

Hot tub time machine.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:30

Yeah, but there you go. Tom and Karen are leaving the ship together. Isaac and Julie make predictions. Julie says, marriage. Julie wonders if they'll have children. Isaac predic predicts that they will, whether they want to or not.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:45

I thought that was very good. Very funny.

unknown 1:45:49

Mr.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:49

Massey and his new lady are leaving the ship together. He's making a lot of plans.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:54

Santa Barbara.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:56

That's a big plan there.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:57

Yeah. For a week. Oh my god. Women can do the same thing as men.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:05

That's crazy. Man, yeah, man eater. What's going on with this lady? We don't even talk about that. Jeez. She rips her mask off and she's Lee Marvin.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:16

Yeah, for revenge. Some way or another.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:20

Vicky and the captain say goodbye to Mark. Vicki says to Stubing, there goes the first man in my life. Stubing tells her there'll be another. Vicky tells him she already has one. Stubing asks who, and Vicky gives him a hug. And episode.

unknown 1:46:40

Whew.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:41

Pretty good. Totals in a recap. Best episode, we're sitting with the Cowboys two-parter. Worst episode, there's like 50. Go back and listen to our last two months worth episodes. We'll we'll talk about that in a few weeks. This this episode should not have worked. There were it was not no stars in it. The storylines were all like it shouldn't very tenuously. Right. It was just like I but I really liked it. And they it's not great. It wasn't, you know, the greatest acting of all time. It wasn't the greatest writing of all time, but it was just like I enjoyed watching it. It went down smooth. It made me laugh. I really liked the accident storyline. I really liked the performances in the Julie and Stubing and Vicky piece of it. And the the third thing was fine. It was harmless. And you know, that would that was fine. Like there were some good parts on that. You know, got it got a song out of it. I I I think this is one of those ones where in the in the course of a season, if we were in a run of good episodes, you would have been like, eh, it was fine. Well, on paper, but this shouldn't have been a good episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:51

No, not at all. Not at all. Yeah. So I I'd put it in the top half. I think it belongs in the top half more than it doesn't top 25%, would you say?

SPEAKER_01 1:48:06

Without really thinking about it, it might be the top third. We we we've kind of talked about this where it's like if you take the two parts out, there's a few, and again, as we're kind of going through them, I'll remember some stuff more, but I think that's also part of the by saying that there's nothing that sticks out also is an indication that nothing sticks out, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:26

So it could be good or it could be bad, just depending on right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:30

Like I think I think we we've talked about it, like the Stubing's brother one was really good. Yes, yeah the Steve the Steve Bryan one was really good. Steve Bryan one was good, you know. The gopher well, you know, it's funny though, the gopher the gopher no, the gopher mom one was bad. Oh, that's that's the thing, right? That was the storyline for the overall, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. The spider serenade was really good. Yeah, but you but I couldn't tell you what the other stuff was in that episode, you know. So it's like this we're at the point now where it's just like I'm very happy this that it's a good episode, it made me it made me enjoy it, and I won't ever think about it again, you know. But good good job. And I I'm not kidding, a lot of stubby nominees are gonna come out of this randomly. So I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:15

So it's funny too, because I I wonder the timing of this episode coming off of what we dealt with last episode. I wonder if that makes it seem I I don't think it magnifies it. I don't think it's a false sense of like I really enjoyed this episode because it's not last episode, because I think this episode st stands up. And I do agree. I I would say top third. I I mean top ten, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:44

Yeah, yeah, and we think about it. That's the thing, like you you you kind of lose track of that's what we're doing now, is to kind of try and you know capture what the season was, but it goes it's okay to it's okay, exactly. And you know what, we we I think we talked about this at the end of the last season. It's Like if you have more goods than bad, it's probably a good season. And I don't know that we have, so it's nice to add to the pile here at the end. And I'm excited about the final two episodes. So maybe we have another three three-game winning streak to end the season like we did last year.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:15

And and I like the fact that we get something like this now because it really makes the re-listen that's current that we're currently doing now for the stubbies. I think that I think the stubbies are going to be really interesting this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:28

Oh, it's wide open.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:30

We kind of know what it is more. Yeah. Right. But it's also there's a lot of material this year and a lot of standout performances.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:38

So see, I'm looking at it the other way. I'm almost looking at it the other way, is there it's so wide open because there weren't, except for the olds.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:47

I mean, right, right, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:49

They're just there's no Billy Crystal, right? There's no like stuff like there's no Dan Carroll. And so it's like I'll be curious to see where we land because I'm not gonna be coming in, I'm not gonna be coming in like locked into five or six of these like I did last year, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:03

No, no, and and plus yeah, no, it's just different, and it's just different. You can see the different uh the spikes in this season for the people that you pick as a nominee. It's almost there's different levels like this year, the non-olds are sort of it's just interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:20

Yeah, and I like and this this is why we do the awards for the most part, is that we can have like a snapshot of the season. Well, yeah, we gotta wrap it up and and it's gonna be pretty important.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:29

Yeah, no, I agree. I I I look forward to the stubbies, and it's funny, the more we do it, the more I look forward to it each year. I mean, it's gonna be a whole blog by the time we're done. Captain of the week. You know, I'm I'm can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I'm I'm gonna say it's sort of a mix of Stubing Julie and the way that they handled. Yeah. I have to include Julie in it because it wouldn't be fair.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:56

Julie was great if they really handled Vicky perfectly. Yeah, that was that was great, and it's I'll be curious to see how often they hit that and how consistent it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:10

I think you're gonna have to. Yeah, I love those in the 80s on TV shows, like one to grow on, like all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:23

Yes, especially because they don't bring Marion Ross until the very end. So unless there's some stooping girlfriend that we don't know about, you know. Can't imagine you'd have a lot of one-off episode mother figures, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:36

So it just complicates everything. But maybe that's a good thing. So they have to actually like use your noggin to really involve stubing in like a love, a love interest type.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:47

Well, the last one we saw, he didn't even introduce last one we saw he didn't even introduce Vicky. So Vicky Who? I agree with with your choices. I'm also going to go with surprising, the Tom and Karen pairing. I just really enjoyed that. Like I said, that is not the kind of storyline I like. Just a lot of Pratt Falls and the same joke over and over again. But they were both really good. Just that guy was that guy was really good. Brett Eklund was really good, the Isaac interactions were really good. I I was not expecting to like that storyline as much as I as I did either. It was good.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:21

It was good, and I think it was outside of the box in the sense that it was just a bit different. I just like the way they approach it. I agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:30

Worst of the week, walk the plank.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:34

I've this is a tough one. Because the easy answer for me to be like, uh Mark, you suck, Mark, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I don't necessarily Mark Mark's what the the frog and the scorpion kind of thing. He is what he is, right? It's not.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:48

It's a woman tender.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:50

And I mean, after the song, I can't be mad at him. I I struggle with the walk the plank this week. I don't really it's not easy.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:59

It's not easy at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:00

If I had somebody it would be Mark, because I feel like he was being inappropriate with Vicky. Yeah. But I don't I don't know if anybody else hits that same Mark for me this episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:12

I like that. I mean, character-wise, I totally agree with you. I I think my criticism would be why they missed the first two scenes writing-wise of it. Because if you just fix that, I mean that's a that's a that's a top storyline, yeah. If you if you do that. Because it just put you on the back foot immediately.

unknown 1:54:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:36

But but once you got past those couple scenes, everything was great. Because it was just creepy.

unknown 1:54:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:42

And then character-wise, I mean, like I said, I didn't I didn't think Mr. Massey was great, but he didn't take things away. I just thought it could have been a better casting. But all the all the women were great. You know, it was like it's it's we we've had a couple of these where it's like it's not the best episode, but there's nothing really bad, and that that definitely was that this week, so which is nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:03

In terms of you know, King of the Hill, how many episodes were we do we struggle to find uh a walk the plank? Yeah, right? No, it's it's that says a lot about the strength of the episode, I think. Right, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:16

And and like I said, it's not the greatest episode of all time, but that's okay, you know. So that's Tills and a recap for this week.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:23

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SPEAKER_01 1:56:16

Sign our sign our form.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:18

Sign our form. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:21

Send me a letter telling me that my insurance got canceled.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:24

Yeah, just send, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, now I'm wondering, is it the at the Loveboat Project at gmail.com. Reach out to us. I did look ahead, Mike. Very exciting. We talked about one of the guest stars for a German friend, Germ German fans. We get David Hasselhoff.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:44

Early Hoff. This might be this might be soap opera Hoff.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:47

Young and a Restless Hoff, right? Yeah. This is this is we get we also get Ann B. Davis.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:53

Oh no, I didn't realize that.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:56

Yeah, and her only appearance on the love boat. Where does that so eat? Five. That's five. That's five.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:05

How many more do we get?

SPEAKER_01 1:57:07

Greg definitely. Greg definitely. I don't know. After that, I'm not sure. Maybe the second? Cindy. Is Cindy? I don't know. I feel like the one kid never shows up. I'll say Greg's. I'm I'm actually surprised we got for that. Yeah, I'm surprised we got Anne B. Davis before we got Greg's. That's fun. A lot of Brady's here at the back end.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:28

Yeah. Yeah. So that'll be fun. I'm a big Ann B. Davis fan. So that's coming up next.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:34

I also believe the big I also believe the big guy is on next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:37

Who's that?

SPEAKER_01 1:57:38

Gordon Jump.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:40

Oh, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:42

I think so. If I read the right one. I think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:44

I hope so. So yeah, this is going into the end of the season. We have two episodes left of season three. So we are coming to a close this season. Looking forward to the next season and the many bonus episodes to include possibly Street Hawk. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:03

I mean, if we can find it, I'm not gonna lie, if we can find it, we might watch it. It might be fun. I am curious.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:09

Anything before we wrap this thing up, Mike.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:11

No, no, like I think I'm sure this is a sentiment I said at the end of last season, but it is nice after. I mean, the fact I had to come up with a gimmick last week to see how bad scenes were, scene by scene. It's nice to watch something that I never looked at the clock and just went down. Enjoyable, just a nice 48 minutes of television. Because, you know, we still have a lot of these left. We're only we're only three seasons done. So not even.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:39

It is nice. It is nice when it's like, okay, I get why this was a popular show. I get you know it it hit all the marks for me, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:47

Well, and especially, and I feel like we've had other I'm sure I could come up with a couple more like this, but it's like for such a low star power episode to be this good also is nice because just because there's big stars doesn't mean it's good, and just because there's not doesn't mean it's bad, and that's good for our purposes too, because at some point I'd I'd like to kind of figure out what actually what we think a good episode is ahead of time. Like we never know. I don't think I thought this was gonna be good, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:14

So like I said, we said on paper, this was not I was like, oh boy, and in the beginning, couple scenes, but maybe next season was good.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:23

You know what we should do next season, yeah, me and you should go through the synopsis, right, of all the episodes. You wanted to put guest stars, you want to look at the rating, and just say good bad, and we'll just see. And we'll just compare it at the end of the season, see where we landed. So that's a fine idea. There's really no way to know. There's no way to know.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:46

No, because I really thought we were heading for a car crash this week. Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, thank you, Mike, and we will see you next time on episode 75 of the Love Boat Project. Thanks for joining.