EP086 | Overcoming Chronic Illness: How Palak Garg Transformed Her Health with Body-Led Healing

In this episode, Palak shares her transformative journey from chronic health struggles to becoming a Functional Medicine Certified Health Coach. With Anindita's guidance, she reclaimed her health, confidence, and purpose, inspiring women to trust their own healing process. 

What would it take for you to trust your body again, especially after years of feeling lost or stuck in your healing journey? 

Many women struggling with chronic illness feel overwhelmed by conflicting advice, multiple protocols, and a constant sense of uncertainty. You're likely stuck in a cycle of trying harder, pushing through, and hoping for relief, but instead, you feel more exhausted and disconnected from your body than ever. 

The pressure to fix everything with more willpower, more supplements, or more discipline can quietly turn healing into another form of burnout.

As Palak shares in this conversation, healing didn’t come from doing more—it came from listening. From taking small, grounded steps. From learning to trust the process instead of trying to control every outcome.

Healing is not about forcing results.
 It’s about reconnecting with your body’s wisdom.

Healing is about aligning with your body’s wisdom, not forcing a result.

BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING, YOU’LL DISCOVER:

• Why trusting your body is the key to healing—without more hustle or protocols
• How small habits and mindset shifts can lead to big transformations
• The importance of starting where you are—without waiting for the "perfect" moment
• Why acknowledging your progress is essential to moving forward
• How having a coach to guide you in a partnership of trust can change everything

You are not broken.
 You are not behind.
 And you are not alone.

Your next step—however small—can still be powerful.

RESOURCES & NEXT STEPS

If this conversation resonated, here are a few gentle ways to continue—at your own pace:

The Body’s Whisper Starter Kit (free)
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Effortless Healing Companion (EHC) – Waitlist
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Healing Roadmap Session (90 mins | ₹19,000)
When you’re ready for clarity, this personalized session helps map your unique triggers and create a grounded first-phase healing plan—without rushing or overhauling your life.
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CONNECT WITH PALAK

Palak is now a Functional Medicine Certified Health Coach supporting women on their own healing journeys.

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If this episode found you somewhere real, there's more.

I write every week at Healing From Within — about chronic illness, the nervous system, and what it costs to keep performing being okay.

 👉 Find me on Substack: healingfromwithin.substack.com

I've also built something for women who are tired of doing everything right and still not feeling better. It opens to a small group in September. 

There's nothing to sign up for. If you'd like to know when, write to me: anindita@aninditarungta.com

Keep listening. Your body already knows the way.

Transcript

Welcome, Palak. It's such an honor to have you here. I'm so excited. And before we get started with our conversation, we're going to have, uh, you know, I think it's going to be a meaningful conversation and it's going to help a lot of our listeners and, uh, you know, audience. 

Welcome to Embrace Your Healing Journey, a podcast for women with autoimmune and other chronic conditions to help them navigate their illness without fear of isolation and uncertainty and find relief from their symptoms. Your body is your guide and ally in healing. If you are ready to embrace this journey with compassion and awareness, then this show is for you. Tune in weekly as I, a Functional medicine Certified Health Coach, deliver tips and insights that demystify the healing process, guiding you towards the relief you deserve so that you can feel healthy and happy once more. Uh, so just a very brief outline of before we get started. Palak worked with me a few years ago. For a while she was dealing with some health issues at that time, and together we found ways for her to support her body's healing process. We went into the roots and we'll discuss a few things. Um, uh, you know, depending on how much time we have and, uh, yeah. And then she was fully committed to that journey. Healing journey? I always call it a journey. And she found ways to stay strong. And as they say, the rest is history. Today, she is herself, uh, functional medicine certified health coach. Uh. It's amazing. Uh, and we'll talk a bit about that, of course. And she's married and she's the mother of a two and a half year old son. So welcome. Welcome to, uh. Yeah. Welcome to this conversation. Thank you. Thank you. Anantha. So, um, I think let's go back to the beginning and then, of course, we'll just take it from there. When you think back before you embarked on this journey and as I said, I always call healing a journey. How would you describe that season in one sentence, whatever comes to your mind? Mhm. So it was like autumn when things started falling apart and winter weather, things uh, started becoming darker. And it actually happened during that time only. So. And in the spring when I joined your program and, uh, life started blossoming again. It actually happened during those seasons only. So. Wow. So that's such a beautiful way of putting it. I love your answer. And, uh, yeah, it's so apt. I mean, I actually don't remember whether it was winter, but you will remember, but, uh. Yeah. So it's it's an apt. And I love your answers. Anything else? Uh, sorry. Yeah. That's it, I guess so. So that was the season. Okay. Yeah. And if you can think back to how were you feeling physically and emotionally? Why? Because I know you had mentioned, uh, when we were we started working together, that you were looking for answers, like many of my clients do. So how what were you feeling physically and emotionally at that time when you were looking for answers? Uh, it was same, both physically and emotionally. Like why me? So I think everyone would have that question. So why me? Why did this happen to me? Or did I do something wrong or have like sometimes it this also comes. Have I heard someone? Because because of that I'm getting this. So. And what would happen if things wouldn't get better? Do I have to deal with this thing my whole life and I have to live like this? Or, uh, and like, will I be able to get married, have children and do something in my career because, uh, it was that bad? So I all these questions were coming and physically and emotionally, every time this kept on going in my mind. When when I didn't get the answer, when I got the answer, I know that what was the reason of it. But till then, like every time, this kept going on in my mind. So it was replaying in your mind as to why me? And then what happens. I mean, which is the case with any, uh, any person with any kind of chronic health issues. I mean, it's of course not just you or me. So it's anyone. And I think what you just said is so correct because, you know, the people are looking for answers, and very often they don't get those answers as to why did it happen to them. And they sort of remain stuck. So what made those years difficult for you? Like anything that you can sort of say that, you know, maybe if these things had been in place, it would have not been this difficult. So what? What? Anything that comes to your mind again. So, uh, one thing which I feel is that that time no one believed that what I was doing or, uh, like, whatever food changes I was doing in my diet. So no one believed that this is correct. One, because it was not normal. No one knew that. Yeah. This, uh, also could happen after I did the changes. So everyone when, uh, like, my family talked to other people so they know. Yeah. This is also the thing. So it was that no one believed in me that made the things more difficult. And. Yeah, absolutely. And because, um, you know, anyone who gets on to this, a journey like this, who is medicine, right? And now you are a coach. So we can talk a bit about your coaching journey also that you've started on. But yes, food is medicine. But most of us I don't know about this and even if we know as family, may not believe in this or you know it only, it's only when the results came come that you, you know, people start believing in you. And I can completely appreciate what you're saying because when I started my doctor on, say, gluten free diet and everything, uh, even I was trying out things. The good thing is, my husband supported me. That's why I could do it. And I did it many years ago, 11 years ago. But yeah, I can completely appreciate that because it's so hard. I mean, uh, sending her somewhere for a birthday party. She couldn't eat one thing. And I remember making so. So. Yeah. So it's it's really hard. And sometimes it feels that, you know, you're the only one who's doing this. Uh, and that's often why people, even when they know what needs to be done, they don't end up doing it because they don't get the support. So I, uh, you know, I, I get that, but I know that later on, your family came around and that, uh, did help you, right? I mean, over time, when they saw the results. Yeah. How did things change for you? I mean, how did things change with time? Uh, did you feel your family then, you know, start to support you? So what what was the progression that you can look back? Yeah. So eventually, uh, like, uh, when they, uh, started seeing the differences. So they started supporting, like, whatever food I used to say. My mom used to make it, so, yeah, eventually they started seeing the differences. Yeah. And that made it easier. That made it easier. That made it easier. And of course, because we worked together and it's a partnership always. And again, now that you're a coach, you know the value of that partnership with the client. So that would have also helped to, uh, you know. Yeah. Of course, you know, when I joined your program. So after that, of course, the things within three months I could see the major differences. Yeah. Yeah. So that coaching, uh, helped me that much that I thought of becoming a health coach. Yeah. So tell me something about that. So, how has I know you've sort of recently started on that, uh, you got your certification from the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy. So if a bit of it, if you want to share now, I would love to hear. Yeah. So, uh, I did become a health coach for years back, but since I got married and had a child, so I was not able to balance the work and all of the, uh, this motherhood thing. So. So now I have started, I've got some time. So I've started my work of health coaching and it's good, worth it. Health coaching. Because because that time I realized that I'm worth it of everything. So I thought of giving it a name worth it. Health coaching so that everyone knows that you are worth it. Oh, I love it. I didn't know this. There's a reason why you have chosen this name. Absolutely. And I think what you have said is so true. A lot of women don't realize that they're worth the time and the effort they need to put in themselves, you know, because as women, we put everyone else first, as I say jokingly, on our to do list, you know, everyone is above us, including the dog also sometimes. And then we are sort of last on the list, right? So that is a you know, that's how a lot of conditioning works for women. So I love the idea about what it helps with you. It's it's that also and one thing, uh, which I realized during my journey so that sometimes, uh, whatever we think that we are, it's not. Actually what we are. It's what people have told you that you are this. So you're much more than that. So when we realize that, yeah, we have more than that, then you realize that we are worth of getting everything. Yes, yes, I love that you are sharing that. And and I think in, in a way it sets us free. Yeah. Free from further other expectations. Mhm. And then we are finally free to do what we had always wanted to do isn't it. And sort of I think uh it has been your journey as well. And I wish you all the best for your coaching, uh journey as a coach now, because you've lived that, you know, that journey yourself. But, you know, if again, we if we go back, what gave you the confidence to say yes to when you started on your, uh, on your own healing journey when you had so many, you know, uh, maybe challenges or obstacles before that because, you know, that's the problem with chronic conditions, like, you know, people will have challenges coming up. So what made you what give you the confidence to say yes. So, uh, I thought a lot before starting the program. So I think it took when I called you after that, after 3 or 4 months, I joined the program. So. So I didn't know you personally. Someone gave me a reference, but a what? Just, uh. Uh, like, stuck with me. Was that, uh, you were a mother who helped her daughter heal. So that just gave me a confidence that you are the one. So I have to work with you. Okay. Okay. So. Yeah. So that's, uh. I think that's something that I hear. I recently had a call with some lunch. I mean, a prospective client. So now I do these 20 minute calls and. Yeah. So I asked her, I think a similar question as to sort of what made you. I've just met her once and she said the way you helped your daughter. So I think what I'm trying to say is that even with your own lived experience of being through this, that is going to help so many other people, like my own lived experience of dealing with my daughter's health challenges and going through it. You know, it's one thing. It's to read about it as to how chronic conditions can be so challenging. And, you know, we face these ups and downs. And one is to actually deal with it day in and day out, isn't it? Anything that you want to add to that, because I know that you've been through these ups and downs in your own life before. Yeah. Yeah. So it's difficult. It's not easy. Um, it was difficult, like doing everything myself, uh, finding you and, uh, coming to the coaching every time. And because there was, uh, less emotional, I mean, support was there, but like I said, no one believed in me, so, yeah, it was difficult. But I do know somehow I knew that at that time, he used to feel like I'm in a dark tunnel, but I used to see one light off out of that tunnel, so I know I will reach there. So you help me, uh, move out that of out of that tunnel. And I just came out of the tunnel, and I could feel that light, like which I was seeing. I could feel that light. Uh, it's interesting that you say that because this is how I had felt when, uh, you know, many years ago with my own daughter's health issues, like there was a light at the end of the tunnel, and I somehow had to reach there. It took me two years in her case because I didn't have a coach to support me at that time. Uh, which is why, actually, I became a became a coach in the process so that people don't have to spend. But you're absolutely right. It's that light at the dark, you know, at the end of the tunnel, no matter how, you know, helpless we feel, no matter how powerless. That's the problem with these conditions, right? I mean, we don't. We? We are used to going to the doctor and taking a pill and getting better. That's the mindset. So all of us had to shift that and say that we need to take responsibility. But then that takes time. The whole thing. Transference of ownership takes time. The mindset shifts, takes time. And I think that's where coaching plays a role. And now as a coach, you are able to give that gift to other people. And I'm so glad that you know that you are here, and this is why I wanted you on this, uh, you know, uh, on this show, not only as my client, of course, and to have a conversation, but also as a coach, because you can now share this with so many others who need that gift from you. Right. And that's how I look at it. So what, if anything, you want to share? Yeah, it's a gift, actually. Now, I know it's a gift. Now I know. Uh, but, you know, that's the thing, right? When we go through challenges, any challenges, it. We can look at it as something that happened to us, or we can look at it as something that happened for us. And when we say that it's for us, then it's a gift. Then now we can share with the rest of the world, right? Right. So I'm so that's that's amazing. And so what are some of the things that you've been able to do that once fell, you know, felt out of reach? I mean, uh, marriage, motherhood, I mean, anything that, uh, even becoming a coach, anything that you would like to sort of expand on. Yeah. So, uh. Yeah, actually, that time it felt out of reach. So now. Yeah. Now I'm a happily married, uh, my husband is. My husband is unconditionally loving and supporting. So he supports me for everything. And I have a, uh, son who is 2.5, like you mentioned, so. And, yes, I've started a health coaching business also. So. Yeah. So these things, uh, like I used to think whether I would be able to do it or not, but now. Yeah, I'm actually I'm surprised by myself. Only that how far I have come. Yeah, yeah. So I think, uh, often we, you know, we see the potential in other people, but we don't often see the potential ourselves, which is why you said worth it. Health coaching came out of that, uh, the potential that we don't get to see. And sometimes somebody else needs to reflect it that, you know, you have this potential. We all do, by the way. We all have that potential, right? I mean, whether it's you, whether it's me, anyone else or we all have that, but sometimes we need someone in our corner to reflect that back to us, to encourage, to guide. And so so that's how it works. I mean, it's the same for me. It's the same for you. And I'm sure anyone else who's tuning in, you know, they they can also benefit from, uh, a kind of support like that. So this is amazing because as you said, you surprised yourself. I have the pride myself from where I have come. Right? So, yeah, so, so many things are possible. Um, if we fine tune back to where things started to shift for you in terms of your health issue, was there a moment that you realized that you could trust your body again? Because a lot of times as women, when you're going through these challenges, we tend to lose trust in our bodies. Was there a moment or anything that shifted for you? Um, actually, uh, as far as I remember, there was never I didn't trust the body. Then I always trusted, uh, like, when, just, uh, when I, uh, the health issue started coming so instantly, maybe in just 1 or 2 months, I started searching for the answers. So when I knew that, uh, this conventional medicines are weather and all was not working for me. So I started looking for the answers. So I knew that, uh, that I'll be able to do it. It was just. I was waiting for the right time and the right person. So who will help me? So, yeah, I think I always trusted my body. Okay, that that's amazing because a lot of people do lose faith or trust. So that that would have helped you right from the beginning itself. Mhm. To stay on track uh, with whatever we were discussing. Uh, yeah, I remember that. I remember uh, some of the things that we did like a gratitude journal. Remember we started with a gratitude thing that helped you uh, to anything else. You remember that? Because it's been a while. I know, but I remember this one gratitude journal, and I remember that you. I think you were doing yoga as well, if I am not mistaken. Yeah. Yoga. Gratitude. Journal. Walk. So I was doing a lot of things together. So, uh, like diet changes, having green juices, some herbal teas. Uh, sleeping on time, waking up on time every single day, whether it's Saturday or Sunday also. So it would be same time every every day reading, uh, like I started. I used to do phone, but not that much, but uh, while sleeping before sleeping. So I left phone and I used to read the book. So those all these things, like I didn't, I don't know, but I think, uh, while coaching, you might have told me or like we have gone through that. So that became a habit. All these things became a habit. So yeah, all this also has helped me to like, heal and change all the things which are not good. So, um, you know, so that's the beauty about this kind of a process like this kind of a work that we did together, that it's not, of course, it's there are major changes that we did in terms of diet, etcetera, gluten. But it's also the smaller shifts, more or less. 

It's like like how you said, you know, I got off the phone before bedtime. It's a small shift. It's a small thing. But but, you know, they add up and they build momentum. I call it the virtuous cycle, the opposite of vicious cycle. Right. And it's it's amazing how these small shifts can build up over time. It doesn't happen in one day. But as you said, uh, you know, it changes our habits. Uh, that's that's the beauty of it. It stays with you. Like, even after we've stopped working together. And it's the same with all my clients. You know, a lot of these habits stay. It's not like you'll go back to everything that you were doing before. A lot of the habits stay, whether it's a morning routine. Um. I recently had a client who worked with me for three months, and, you know, without we didn't do we did very basic, uh, foundational things like diet, etc.. But, you know, when I asked her what was your biggest, uh, what is the thing that helped you the most? Because she had a severe autoimmune condition. And so, uh, so we did a bit of diet because it was a short time frame. Uh, she said her morning routine because she is the mother. Mother of her. She is the mother of a newborn child. And, you know, she already has one child. She was on a break, uh, maternity break. At that time, she was facing some skin issues. And that was her biggest thing that morning routine. You know, I typically what we would think that when we are, when I am working with my clients. Okay, the diet must be the big one. You know, this supplement or that, but it's often the small things. So she said, my morning routine has helped me get my, you know, some, some sense of calm in the mornings before I even start my day. It's amazing. So the small shifts. I love what you shared. So what? So now that we've talked about some of these things that you did, what inner shifts made the biggest difference, like what was happening inside you at the same time. Mhm. So there were a lot of transformations but few like uh which I remember. So when like in a moment it used to happen. So whenever I was walking or working or just doing something. So some sometimes just something used to star struck and uh, this change used to happen. So, uh, one is like when I, uh, realize that change starts from within. So that was the time when, when I, like, took my first step or first baby step, you can say, like, I started searching for the answers. So I thought like, uh, what would happen? People will come and they will say, oh, uh, okay, this happened to you. And they'll go, what would happen? It it would happen to me. So I am the person who has to do everything. So I am the person who has to do the change so that. If anyone needs it so they can see me and they can do the changes. So it's me who has to start. So it's you who has to be in charge. In other words. Yeah. Yeah, right. You can't give away that power to someone else. So someone have to have that power to make those changes. And you're right. It comes. It has to come from inside. Not it cannot come from the outside. Nobody can force you to do this. I mean, and again, as a coach, I think you understand that now as a part of your training that we are not forcing, you're not going to be forcing anyone to do. It doesn't work, right. Forcing somebody to or threatening somebody with some consequences that never works, right? I mean, fear is not a good motivator, is what I was coming to. And as you rightly said, that it had to be from inside you. It was only when you had decided to, you know, search for answers that finally you got them. I guess it took time, but yes. So one thing during the conversation, I just remembered, uh, while coaching, uh, used to do some, uh, guided meditations. So one of that, uh, was that like, there was one stone and lying in the lake. So whatever seasons and, uh, storm, anything would come, but that stone would be there, so it would. It won't go up and down or left or right anything. So, uh, I think that that was also one of the thing when, uh, which help that whatever would happen if, if you'll be there and if you whatever you want to achieve and you'll be there. So. You'll you'll do it. I mean, whatever comes if you are a confident and present you. Yeah. Present. So you'll be able to do it. You'll be able to do it. So I thank you for reminding me. Yeah, it's one of my favorite, uh, meditations as well, because it, uh, it is a reminder, as you said, that we can stay grounded and present no matter what's happening at the surface, and they will always think that be happening. So it's not the question is not whether we can, you know, do away with all our problems and all our challenges. Right? That's not going to happen because this is life. But if we can figure out a way, as you said, to, you know, stay grounded and present and that, uh, pebble in the Lake meditation is a beautiful one. So thank you, as I said, for reminding me. Uh, but yeah, so that's that just you can connect with your inner strength and that's what gave you, I think, the confidence, right, to know that you will succeed. So for someone now, the flip side of it, for someone who feels stuck and uncertain and definitely not confident, what would you tell them about taking the first step and finding hope? So yeah, I think it's okay to validate the feelings that, yeah, you're stuck. Whatever you're feeling right now, it's okay. I mean, there is no point of, uh, saying that, uh, like, people would say, don't cry or don't be angry. Don't do this. Don't do that. It's okay. I mean, the emotions would come first. Yeah, first validating those feelings. I think it's okay. And then, uh, maybe, uh, you have to take that baby step, because just sitting and thinking that things are going to get better, or I'll start, like some people say, that I'll start next month. I'll start next week, or I'll start when the right things would come. It would. It would only come when you take that baby step, step or you'll take that leap. Because I myself did that. I waited for 3 or 4 months and when I joined the program. So, uh, then I realized I. Why didn't I do it earlier and still, still when I'm, uh, like, I started my health coaching business. So now I'm realizing, why didn't I do it earlier? It's been four years. I've completed the health coaching. Uh, course. And maybe I did something small. Small? But why didn't I start it then? So you have to take that leap. And this is not the end. Yeah, this is not the end. You have to believe in yourself. No one can tell better than your own instincts. So you have to believe in you. Like I said that people would say, uh, they would fit in your subconscious mind that you are this and you are that. So you're much more than that. And yeah. So by taking those steps, only you would be able to reach the end goal and fulfill your dreams. So because this this interview is also a dream for me. You know, I used to dream that I'll be giving the interview. So if I would not have taken those steps and, uh, taken that leap so I would not have come here. So. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. It's a lovely, uh, thing to, you know, I, I, I really appreciate what you said. Uh, and I am honored to have you here, uh, today. Um, you know, it's always a pleasure to talk to people I've worked with, uh, you know, and, uh, see, and I think my biggest reward is to see that transformation, like, you know, literally, that takes place. That's an amazing thing, to know that I've made some difference. And going back to what you said, I think it's so true that validating and acknowledging is where you start. You can't be in denial. And then, you know, like a lot of people are in denial. I mean, that, you know, that I have this problem or, you know, it's so bad or that I'm scared, but because by being in denial, you remain stuck. So you're right. It's only by validating how we are feeling and acknowledging our fear. You know it is okay. It's scary. Right? I mean, anything that we are going through, if the future is uncertain, if there are any health issues or even financial issues and other things, I mean, it's all scary. But that should never be a reason to, you know, not take any action, as you said. And it can be a baby step like you did, like I did. I had taken baby steps. I had no clue what I was doing 11 years ago in 2014, after Diwali, I still remember I had my daughter had severe eczema, so I had found I had no idea what I was doing. I only knew food will help her. So I said okay, it can't be this bad. So then I found a book called The Eczema Diet. And then I started, uh, whatever that book said and for I think I can't remember now. It's been a while, but at least for a month, I took us off. I mean, I, I followed the same diet with my daughter. She was only eight at that time. I remember taking her off all masalas, all spices, because it said that spices can be a problem. I had no idea. I had no training at that time, so I remember that we used to only have garlic and salt. Okay, that's how I started. And it was fish with garlic and salt. It was this with garlic and everything was with garlic and salt. I had no idea how I did it, like you said, you know, like sometimes you just go through with it because, I mean, one is I was desperate as a mother, but then I knew that it was going to help her in some way. I just didn't know how, right. I but it was only because I took those steps, even though I was not 100% sure as to how it would all add up. And finally and then. But once I started taking those steps, I started with that. Then I realized, okay, this is not going to work. Then I started making the next step, then the next step, then the next step. Eventually I found functional medicine. Then I found a practitioner. But if I had not taken that first step, like you're saying, right? Taking that step is so important and it can be a small step. So. But that first step is so important. And then you keep taking one step. And after another. I think somebody said that. I can't remember who said it, but that, you know, even if you can't see the entire, uh, you know, staircase, if you can see a few stairs ahead of you, you can just start taking one step at a time, and then it becomes slowly clearer and clearer as to what path we should be taking. And I think it's been true for you. It's been definitely true for me. So, uh, yeah. So, yes. Validating. And then of course, taking the step and not pushing it off. But, you know, coming back to your coaching, I think we do tend to do that in some areas of our lives. I mean, I have pushed off many things. Other things, uh, you know, that I'll do it and then I then I also find that why didn't I do it earlier? Right. So that's that's, I think, a normal human thing to do. So tell me if there's, uh, you know, as we come to the end of this amazing conversation, I loved having you here, sharing your insights, your experience. It's going to help so many other women and others facing chronic health issues and challenges to just know what's possible. Is there anything that you would like to share that I have not asked you? So I just adding on to this conversation, like what we were talking earlier. So, uh, let's just remember that during the journey. So even after taking the right step. So I knew that I was on the right path, but still sometimes I used to feel that whether I have taken a right step or not, whether I'll reach there or not. So is that right? Or what others are saying? Is that right or I'm wrong? So all these questions used to come. So. But then I would used to think that I used to look bad. That from where I've come, where. So. And then of course I'll reach to the end. So. Yeah. So so one thing you have to look back also from where you have come. And then that gives a confidence that you can go ahead. I think that's such an important point. Could you mention that because I tend to do that also sometimes we don't see the wins that we have had in the past. Right? We don't see the progress that we have. Maybe we're looking ahead to see how much we have to still go. But you're right. We don't take a moment to look back and acknowledge how far we had come. We have come already. You know we can lose motivation to keep going. Yeah, right. Because it seems that, you know, what's ahead of us is so much more. But we don't realize how much steps we've already taken. So, uh, I think that's such an important point that anybody who's listening to this that, you know, no matter what challenges you have faced earlier in life that you have managed to overcome. Right. So then this is another thing that you will find a way to overcome. Anything else you would like to share before we end the conversation? Also, I would love for you to share your Instagram, handle your website or any other resources so that people can find you easily. Yes. So, uh, so I'm, uh, running a health coaching business, so just started and you can find me on Instagram and Facebook with the same name with it, health coaching. Yeah. So thank you. I'll make sure that I share those links, uh, in the show notes below so that it becomes easier for people to find you. Thank you so much again for such a delightful conversation. I loved having you here. Um, yeah. Thank you for joining me. Just the one thing I also remembered. Uh, through all these things. So I also got the purpose of my life and the reason for getting up each day and reason for getting up excited each day. Everyone gets up. But being excited each day that you. I'll do the I'll do this thing. Like today, I have to give an interview. So that was also exciting. So, uh, all of this thing gave me a purpose and a reason. So whenever it feels lows, whenever I feel low. So I remember that. What is the purpose of my life making like yours? You said that making differences to everyone's life. So that all that gave me a purpose. I think that's a beautiful place to end this conversation. You're absolutely right. It's something that gets us out of bed in the morning. Both of us are actually quite fortunate in that sense. I don't think you get Sunday evening blues. I look forward to Monday mornings like unlike many people, so I think they're both very fortunate. Thank you once again for thank you, thank you, thank you so much.