51 - Summer Halftime Show

How do we all feel about summer? Is it still everyone’s favorite season, or have has it become too much? Join Tyler and Isaac this week as they catch up on what they’re calling the tipping point of summer. They talk the magic of Chicago, improv at The Second City, their trip to Six Flags, and more.

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I mean, I did dabble in Roller Cuts or Tycoon, so I'm not an idiot. Okay. I've ran several successful theme parks. Right. Mm-hmm. And still do, occasionally on flights on my iPad. That's true. So I think I'm going to do it. So I went to my third session today. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh my God, I forgot. Dr. Ricardo. Yeah. So for those of you don't know, I am on the journey to get some sort of ADHD treatment. Yeah. And I will say, if for those of you don't know, it is not easy to go through an ADHD, any sort of diagnosis. Yeah. So, anyways, I had my third session today. And as part of that, so when you go to do this, I guess how we got here is that I would say Tyler's would agree that what looks to be ADHD symptoms is something I've been working through for a long time. I'm at my wit's end. Yes. To be to completely get it with you. Yeah. So as part of that, you have to go through like four sessions with a psychiatrist. And each of those is them asking you questions about many things of just basically your day-to-day and how you operate and like where you really struggle and all this kind of stuff. And you do like a 97 questionnaire thing. Do you know that you can't get an ADHD diagnosis unless you can prove that you had symptoms of ADHD as a child? That's No, I didn't know that before this. Specifically between the ages of five and twelve. That is insane to me. Has he explained to you the why behind that? Things like DSM five. Yeah. Whatever that book is that you study in psychology class that like has all the diagnosis in it. Yeah. It's like a DSM five. And so that's something that's like kind of hard to prove because also you have ADHD, it's like I don't fucking remember. Right. So I don't know. And also the other thing I was like is Did he say you have did he say we cannot do anything about this unless unless we can prove? I don't think you can get an ADHD. Or is it like a part of the process, but it's not like a stop gap? No. He said, like, as in order to get an ADHD diagnosis, because I'm sure in that DSM 5, it lists like symptoms of like the rules for diagnosing something. And one of those rules is they have to have had those symptoms in childhood. Okay. And so a lot of the questions that you get asked, it was like, what's your day-to-day like? Do you forget things? Do you are you always late? Do you have a hard time focusing? And then every single question gets the same thing, be like, okay, what about when you were young? You know? Which is struggle because it's not like in 2000, it's not like 1997. Everyone is running around Season, Montana being like, Oh, this kid's got ADHD. Yeah. They were just like, oh, let's put them in sports. Right. But anyways, after you think you did though? Yeah, I just don't remember. Like it was just like a lot of things. But also, it's like, well, you it's like, were you really bad student? Were you, you know, did you is was your room super disorganized? I'm like, no, my room was perfect. Like my stuffed animals were like in order by color. I think you have ADHD and a little like slight element of real OCD. So then it it's like those things are showing up in different places of your personality. Yeah. You know what I mean? So you're kind of combating each other in a way. Which is my that's like my explanation to your like, I know you're a good student. Things were organized, I'm sure. You know what I mean? So it's kind of that's kind of hard to like. I know. But I'm sure it's just basic questions that they ask to try to figure out what you were like. Yeah. So, anyways, um, you have to do this 97 questionnaire, and you have to basically get a reference for someone to do a 97 questionnaire. And Tyler did that for me. And boy, was I prepared with my notes. Yeah. I had a running note in my phone. Ricardo said, please tell him thanks. He added some really good notes. Did he really? Yeah, Dr. Ricardo. Good, good, good, good. I I went, I think I got pretty much the same questions as you as you for the most important. Exactly. Okay. I also I scored a 94%. From me? From you. 95%. Okay. You get like a score at the end on like your likelihoodness of ADHD. And then also there's like four different kinds. That's crazy because I there's like attention, there's like hyperactivity, uh-huh, irritability. Uh-huh. Scored a little high on that one. Uh-huh. And then the last one is like interesting part that I don't know much about that I should ask more about is like negativity. Not like negativity outwardly, but inwardly. Like kind of like really low self-esteem. Interesting. I do remember those questions. Yeah. I did not score you low on those. I didn't either. Like both of us. So when I was like, I got a 995. When you took it for me, I got a 95. Because when I did it, I even thought I was like, should I be doing it? Because it's rate. Most of them are like, it's like a classic range, right? So it's like never, sometimes, most of the time, all the time. Yeah. And I feel like I was even fellasoft on those. You also get a score for um consistency. Uh-huh. So like if like you answered two questions similarly, but similarly, but this one you answered over over here and this one you answered over here. Uh-huh. You get a score on like how consistent you were. That's why there's so many questions. Yeah. You did well, you got a zero, which is good. That's what you were saying. Yeah. Cool. Um, you score where you also get a score for how fast you take it. Oh, really? Because you're probably supposed to do it at like you're not supposed to probably uh I think there's too fast and probably too slow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a little on the fast side. Oh but also if you're taking it for someone else, it's gonna be like boom, boom, boom. Yeah. Did you say anything about my notes? Um, he just said they were good. Oh, good, I think. So I I went into it as thinking the whole process, I went into it thinking that I was going to at some point be sitting down with this person and talking to them with you or about you. And so I started a a note on my phone of like concrete examples that I witness or observe of you that I perceive as like a symptom of having ADHD. Would you are you gonna let me read that? Sure. Well, it's like it's all stuff I've talked to you about before. I said generally, if we're if I come home to the house and you've been here, at times, not all the time, but at times I can tell like kind of where you've been. A trail. And yeah, you like don't frequently you're not like a messy person, but you kind of like leave stuff out because I can tell you've like moved on to another task before you finish something, which is like classic. But then I think uh a lot of what I talked about was having to do with like your communication and memory. Yeah. And so like a concrete example I gave was like if I have a question that's a little bit more of a longer question for you, or I'm asking a multi-part question, I can't get through it. You'll like preemptively answer something before you even fully know what's being asked. Oh yeah, there's a whole section on interruption. Yeah. So interruption was one thing that I talked about. I said I did put in the note like Isaac, because I think a lot of classic like ADHD too that you think about, especially as kids, is like they're fidgety, they can't like sit still. Yeah. And they can't, and I think that's like a what I've learned is that's maybe a form of it or one of the four parts of it. Yeah. But you don't necessarily have that. I notice it more with like your ability to focus, your ability to communicate effectively. Yeah. And your ability to remember things. Correct. And that's what I said to Dr. Ricardo. Thank you. I mean, I just adore the guy. So, anyways, um, it is a long journey, and uh, we'll see how it goes. I'm like my goal is not to like get medicated. My goal is to like feel better. Yeah. Because I feel like I just have so many things going on with like work and things like that that I just like have to shut up. I think I just get like task paralysis, what I keep saying of like, I don't fucking I have no problem writing the shit down. It's just like I don't even know where to start. So yeah. One thing too is like I don't think you're gonna have my presumption is that you're not gonna be like it's not gonna make you like way more effective at work or like way better at things because you can't focus. I do think it will maybe reduce your stress that you feel when you're inundated with a whole bunch of tasks or being asked a lot of things at once. Yeah, we'll see. Or in situations where it's like rapid fire, you know what I mean? Like I do think it ultimately stresses you out. Yeah. I think part of that is like you're trying to think through shit, and it's your ADHD brain is struggling to be like so then you just get stressed. Yeah. But it does make it work really well under pressure. Did he say that? No. I spent sometimes. Yeah, sometimes I'm not sure. But I do like if I hear that from someone, because I think if I'm like brainstorming or things like that, or like thinking of things, like my favorite thing was an in-class essay. It's like when I performed my best, or um, I did speech and debate as part of FA, and they have a whole competition on extent extemporaneous speaking. So it's called I don't know. Extemporaneous. Let's go with it. I think that's where you have to make it up on the spot. You get like five minutes to prepare a speech. But that could just be one skill set you have. That might not be ADHD. Yeah, I'm kind of worried out at the end of this. The diagnosis is gonna be like you kind of sound like maybe you're a perpetual procrastinator who doesn't really like the details, but we'll see. And I've always said that. And I've always said that. I've always said that. But anyways, we'll see. Okay, well, welcome everyone to the Arnold Gaze Montana. We're back. I'm calling this episode the summer halftime show. Um, so just kind of checking in on summer and how we're doing. It'll be great. I feel like I mean, we've had some travel that just happened. So we've we've been like we had episodes prepped. Yep. Now we're like catching up. Bam, here we are, recording an episode, and then it's gonna come out. Yeah, I would say we're right at that point in summer. That happens right at the beginning of August, which everyone's like, oh my god, it's starting to slip away, it's starting to slip away, it's starting to slip away, and people are panicking a little bit, which is fair because then it just gets so plan, plan, plan, and there's not much left, and all of a sudden it's Labor Day, then wham bam, leaves are fallen. Mm-hmm. Gray's Anatomy seems in October. Gray's Anatomy season 25 is back. Yeah, you're prepping a Halloween costume. Yeah, exactly. So we just want to do a little summertime check-in. If you want to call out, well, just kind of how we did this, like activity-wise. Yeah. So to prep for this episode, we each took we had to take 10 minute silent, sustained thinking with Ariana Grounder playing in the background, which we'll talk about here in a second. And we had to write down on one note card. We only got one note card and one side to write down the topics that we wanted to discuss about summer. My question is, and you have to be honest, at 33 years old, is summer still your favorite season? Yes. Okay. Actually, not even still, I think it's even more my favorite season than it used to be. Okay, I'll come. I just think it's limitless. Like on what you can do? No, I just think there's so much fun energy around summer, and people are so excited. And I love like warm summer nights. I love when it gets dark late. I love weather and environment-wise, I think it's superior by far. Yeah, like absolutely by far. Yeah. And I personally don't get that stressed out by the go, go, go. Yeah. I do, I do think I feel myself being tired. Like I'm tired. Yeah. But I don't get like overloaded or stressed. There was one moment a couple weeks ago when we were look leading into or leading into like six weeks in a row of having things planned and blocked out.

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Travel. Yeah.

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Which I more my thought toward it was like, I know I'm going to be tired, not like I wish we weren't doing all these things. Yeah. So I think so.

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Yeah.

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It's so fun. We play sports. It's too many. We've gone to shows, we've done outside, we've been on the boat. We've like I think that's part of the thing for me. I'm gonna make a crazy analogy. Okay. You remember like Black Friday was fun in like 2003? Yeah. And everyone was like really excited about it, and it was great. Yeah. And you went and it was one day and you had a ton of funky fun. Five. You say funky fun. Ton of fucking fun. Oh. I feel like summer has become Black Friday in like 2015, where it's like it starts on Friday, it's going cyber sale all the way till Monday, and you're just like, the deals aren't that great, and it just keeps going and going. And you're just like, why am I getting up at 5 a.m. for this? I understand where you're getting at with the essence and feeling of it. What are the deals that are bad about your summer? There's too many deals. Okay. The problem is there's too many deals. It's overdealed. Yep. There's too many deals. And you can only take so many deals. Uh-huh. And also you get shopping fatigue. Yeah. So maybe that's what I feel like. It's always fun. Like the things you're we're doing are always so fun. It's just like the in-between stress where I'm like, I think part of it's your ADHD. I'm going to say it. I think you I think part of your procrastination brain is you get stressed out when we have all of these plans and locked into things. Yeah. And you just want like which I do too at times. You just want like a weekend where it's like we have no plans. Yep. We can go on the boat if we want to. We can sit at home all day if we want to. Without the FOMO of summer being like we should be doing something. Yeah. Which is tough. Because on a summer weekend, if you're doing nothing, it's like, well, we should be doing something. Yeah. It's summer in Seattle. You only get so many weeks. So you like it. Go, go, go. So you you like it and you like what's going on. I love all the things. I love boating. I love going to Montana. I love seeing family. I love doing all that. I think I just don't like the like how we have to jam-pack it all together. Yeah. And there's a lot of you're feeling a lot of pressure. Yeah. About a little different aspects of this season. Yeah, just a finite period of time. Yeah. That's fair. I do think it's my favorite still, though. Yeah. I would say the older I get, and I think I understand why. And I'm going to say another crazy thing. Okay. I love fall. Snoozefest. But I think it's because I loved back to school. I did too, though. Always loved that time period. I did too. But even in college. Like every like it was I loved fall sports. Um, except for football, because it stressed me the fuck out. It was a little too soon and hot as hell. And you had two days. Did you love it? Yeah, I guess not. Let me take that one back. Um, but I loved shopping. I loved school shopping. I loved seeing all your friends. My birthday was at them this summer, so it was always like the big end of the summer party. And always I just loved the excitement of school starting. And like homecoming week was always like the second week. But then that went into college with everything of like RA training is always my favorite time of the year. And then I loved when the school year started. And you know how that like the I loved opening day when students showed up. Like I think all the like things that I've ever been excited most about and time period-wise fall between like end of August and about the middle of October. Yeah. I think that tracks. Yeah. And I think that's really but that that just has like turned into like adulthood being being like, I love this time period. Yeah. I was gonna say, because all of those things that you mentioned anymore. Exactly. But I just like get really nostalgic and I love it. And things kind of slow down. Damn. Okay. Where did the time go? I know. I like that. I do like that. I I definitely loved back to school. Um, but I think I like I do just like transition periods. Yeah. Like the excitement of the next thing. Because a big one for me too was spring. You loved spring. Love seeing spring. I did not like the first warm day when everybody's out and doing stuff. I loved spring finals week because you would like be prepared for your finals. Once you finish your finals, just like there's like a week of like limbo where you're kind of like leaving college but not leaving college or like moving out, but yeah, you just get to do fun stuff. It was warm. Yeah, if you yeah, if you were you and not me. Procrastinated every single project and everything to it was the fucking worst. Oh my god, yeah. I love being like done with finals in the past. You were done with finals in April. Done with finals on a Tuesday, but then I'm an RA, so I have to stay until everybody is moving out. So it's just like so. If you were if you were lucky enough to be early, done early in the week, which I never was. Culture business was never done early. The rest of the week was so fun. Like no responsibility besides checkouts. Okay, anyways, welcome to the Arno Gaza Montana, the podcast where we talk about random stuff today. It's random. Summer here. Random. Grab bag. Grab bag. Grab bag. Also, we should shout out to Ariel. Ariel's in Belgium. I thought about calling her for this episode and I checked. She's actually in France right now. But yeah, we're excited for her to come back. We miss you. Shout out, gal. Yeah, long trip for her. Yeah. Well-deserved, fun trip. Well deserved. Yeah. Well deserved. Okay. Um, we also just got back from trip, so we spent the whole last weekend in Chicago. Mm-hmm. Start spreading the news. And I would say of all the places we've been to, Chicago. Not at all. No, I know. Not at all. I had no song for it though. Yeah. When I'm back in Chicago. What was that song? It was like a TikTok song. Yeah. And when I'm back in Chicago. I was thinking that one, but that's Boston. Yeah. Think I'll go to Boston. Augustana. Oh yeah. Um, anyway, so we just got back from Chicago, which is uh fun fact, a city that Tyler and I have spent zero, really not a lot of time in. You've been there a few times. I'd only this is the second time I'd ever been there. What did you think of what's your impression of Chicago before you went there? Well, I would say an adult. Yeah. So I mean, I have been there. This is my third time there. Oh. But uh the first time I went, it was 10 years ago. So young adult. Yeah. I was like third, 22. Yep. And then the second time was more work-heavy. My impression of Chicago was huge, sprawling suburbs. Yeah. Because I have flown through Chicago a decent amount of times, and it just feels like from the airplane, the city is going and going and going and going. Yeah. Middle America, but like populated middle America, like city, very American. Like I kept saying to you because I had been there twice, everything is such so American in Chicago. Yeah. And people, people that I have met that grew up in or around Chicago love Chicago. Obsessed with it. Like they not that they act like there's no other place on Earth or no other city on Earth, but they are love Chicago and are proud of Chicago. Like as a city and a concept. And different than New York, I would say. Right. Not city-wise, but Lex is gonna hate this, but I'm gonna put it in here. New Yorkers are like pompously. There's no greater city in the world. And it's like, well, obviously people live other places. Right. You know? Chicago is like, they're not like sitting there screaming that it's the best place in the world, but they all fucking love it. Yeah. They love it so much. Every single person I've ever met in Chicago is either trying to work their way back to Chicago or eventually does.

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Mm-hmm.

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Also sports, big sports city with it, too. Yeah. With like Cubs, White Sox, yeah, bears. So I think my goals. My yeah, oh my, it will put a pin in that. Yeah. Because I need to talk about that when we get to Ariana Grande. Yeah. I think my perception is I just didn't really know what the big deal was. But I think after going this week, I kind of I get it. I do too. Like I think it feels really feels like a really accessible city. I feel like a really cool way. Like you can go do it and you can live the city life without the like bullshit of New York. Does that make sense? And LA. People are gonna come at me. And the extreme bullshit of LA. Yeah. It feels more accessible is a good term. I also like lower barrier to entry. But I don't know what that barrier is. Well, it's also I don't feel I don't think it's as as expensive. Yeah. Right? So maybe there is a actual barrier, but it just feels more doable. And I don't know why. Maybe it's because it seems I don't know. It just seems like you could go live the actual city life, which like we've lived in the city, but we've never lived city life. Yeah. Like we've always lived in a residential neighborhood with roommates renting a house. We've never done the like high-rise apartment building. And then you like go down to the pizza joint downstairs. I think it did help that the person and the coffee shop on the corner by like that kind of stuff. My high school friend that we were visiting very much lives in that life. Yeah, it's cool. So it's easy to see how it is doable. But I do think a lot of people that we know that have moved to Chicago, like from Seattle and stuff, don't necessarily live downtown. Right, but I think elsewhere, but you can't more accessible than other places. Right. Right, right, right. Totally. And it was really fun. Okay. Do you want to talk about why we went to Chicago? Yeah, for me, uh yeah. We went to Chicago, like the reason or the driver was we got to go to Ariana Grande, the internal sunshine tour. Woo! Glenda herself. Glenda herself. She was Glenda, right? Yes. Okay. I just want to check. Oh my god. I'll let me start with you. What what did you think? What were your thoughts? Let's first of all, let me back up. We did not initially get tickets for this tour. I tried with multiple people, multiple cities, like every time zone, every pre-sale. We tried to get these tickets. Do you have a sad noise? I do, but I can't remember which one it is.

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Try that one.

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Anyway, so we did not initially get these tickets. I tried multiple cities, multiple time zones, uh, with multiple friends, multiple pre-sales. Yes. And we're nowhere near getting tickets to the city. I've never seen you work harder to get tickets to a concert. This was an extremely, extremely sold-out tour. And just because it was small? I think, yeah. She's been a long time since she toured. Really? Yeah. Because she did the whole tour. Sweetener and the Sweetener World Tour. Tour like 2019. Oh. It's been a while. Because she's put a lot of shit. Right. But it's she focused wicked focused. Right. And wicked focused. Wicked focused. I think she went through a period of time where she kind of didn't love and have a good relationship with actually touring itself. Oh yeah. Rightfully so. Yeah. But anyway, all to say. And it's not that many tours. She did not do that many stops, but she did multiple dates at stops. Then they pulled a bunch of tickets back with bots that they like proved were bought with bots. Yeah. And did a lottery that I signed up for and got two tickets through. Right, right. So we lucked out. We got two tickets at face value in the upper bowl, 98 bucks a piece. I don't even know how blessed I am. You don't. You actually don't. I really don't. The seats that were being resold a few seats down from us. People are screaming in their cars right now. 1200 apiece. 1200 apiece. So I want that to sink in for you. Thank you. Lucky me? Yeah, you're welcome. So that was the reason we went on the trip. Why don't we go over the show? Okay. What do you think of the show? What did you do? What were you thought of Ariana Grande before the show? I've always liked appreciated Ariana Grande, but like I've never sought it out. She's found her way to me slowly. Okay. You know, I really liked the Seven Rings area, era, Seven Rings, Era, Break Up With Your Boyfriend, Era, which was all the same era, same album, I think. I loved that time period because I was living in Vegas. So I just like really remember those songs coming out. Thank you next. Those all the same. Yep. So that was my favorite. Yeah. But I knew way more than I thought. Honestly, this is sidetracked though. One of the things I don't realize when you go to a city that you're like famous. This is a city that has a very famous basketball team. Right. You know the disconnect between being like, I very much grew up in the era of the Chicago Bulls, where every single kid in my second grade had a Bulls t shirt.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then forgetting when you go to the United Center, so it's called. Yep. And then Walking in and being like, Oh, this is where it all fucking happened. Yeah. Which I don't know if that I don't know if they have like a new stadium and that's not actually it, but there's obviously a giant Michael Jordan statuary when you walked in. Yeah. So I was honestly a little bit more enamored with that when I got there. Because I was like, Holy shit, this is where it all happened. Yeah. Which is like every millennial kid that grew up at any time during the 90s of that time period. It was like everyone's favorite sports team was the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, you kind of put it together like on the way to it. Yeah, to not tie those pieces that that's where we were going. You were like the bull. Oh, the do the bulls play? Oh, the bulls play here. Yeah. Also, fuck, what's his name? Benny. Benny the Bull. Uh-huh. He, the guy who was Benny the Bull. Do you remember when Monty from the Grizz won National Mascot of the Year? Yeah. Maybe twice. Yeah. I can't remember. But that guy went to become Benny the Bull for the Scream Bulls. Oh, right. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Because everyone's wearing the Benny jerseys. Yeah, too. So, anyways, that part was really cool. See, that was my first impression. Um, but as far as the show, I thought it was great. I thought it was amazing. So good. It was such a solid concert. Yeah, she's obviously extremely talented, and I have like no taste or like no barometer. Barometer. Yeah. Understanding, pay attention. Have passion about something. I know. But I just thought that she was really her vocals were amazing. Obviously, there's a lot of talk right now of her and like her current health state, and she's like pulled back a ton. And as of like September, she's like, as soon as this tour is over, she's kind of done for a while, it sounds like. Which is great. I think she obviously needs a break. Right. She's been fucking putting out albums in Wicked for like four years now. Yeah. And just like a crazy run. But regardless of all of that noise, she was amazing. Like her performance was amazing. Her vocals were amazing. I'm not really someone to notice that kind of stuff. I was gonna say, did it did it like stick out to you? Yeah. Like the amount of just like singing. Vocal ability. Damn. She sings that young woman sings the shit out of her stuff. Yeah, totally. Like more above and beyond what is happening on the track. Yeah. On the record. Yeah, she was just doing like runs. Is that what it's called? Runs, ad libs. What's it called when you like change the key? I always call that an ad lib. Ad lib. Like she was just ad-libbing, like in a great way. You know, like right now, like you got like the people that have maybe just trying to cash cash in on their older fame. Not that that's Ariana in anyways. Yeah. But you know, when they're all like putting the microphone to the crowd all the time, people are getting really pissed about it. I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah. Ariana was like singing her ass off. Not not shying away from a belt. She's not shying away from a high part of a song that she can sing higher because there's like a harmony in the actual recording that's higher. Yep. She is doing the damn thing. Yeah. Which I think is kind of the I'm probably gonna say something controversial. Other shows that I've been to, Taylor, Katie, like these big ones. Oh, shots. Shots. No, no, no. But they have like, but just like let's say big shows. Yeah. They have like a big production. Yes. And like a scene almost. Like, remember Katy Perry doing like the campy basketball game? Like something like Ariana did a little bit of that, but she didn't have to. She's there to sing. So it's like people are like so into the song and the actual like singing talent. Yeah. She's there to sing. That was cool. And I don't know if I I can't name anyone else where it's kind of been like that. Beyonce. But she does both. Yeah. Yeah. Beyonce's. I mean, she's a fucking floating car running around. Yeah. You know, Beyonce's there to sing though. Um, yeah. Plus dance. Like, that's that's different. Yeah. No, it is so evident that it is like about the vocal ability for her, which it should be, because I think that's what like sets her apart from a lot of people in the industry, specifically that genre. Yeah. I know the ponytail. She kept putting a paraphrase down. The whole show is about ponytail and where was that? Flitting about when she was running on the stage. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, no, I think like she definitely prioritizes vocals. She had no backup singers, which did you notice that? Oh, absolutely. Shut up. No, you didn't. Yeah. She had no more fucking roe was the backup singer. So loud. One thing I have to call out that I've never noticed at a concert before the screaming was a decibel I have never heard. I think it was the group behind us. I think it was the arena. Yeah. And like where we were at. Whatever the like hitting was happening, my ears were like burning, like almost hurting. The screaming was so loud. It was crazy. Yeah. Anyway, she had no backup singers because all the backing vocals. One thing about her that I think like sets her apart from people and it's highly, highly regarded by like critics and like her peers in the industry. Yeah. Is she is like a vocal production master herself. Yeah. Like a few years ago, which I think was so smart by her. A few years ago, she started releasing videos of her doing like the vocal stems and stacking them and showing you like what she's doing in the music production software when she's making an album. And so the air goes. I know. And I think she's she's like the she's the master of that.

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Yeah.

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And so then cut to, and it shows all the way through. So then cut to the tour, she has no backing singers. It's all like she's using the backing vocals and the stems and the harmonies as the backing tracks or like what would be the backup singers in the show. And she's always done that. I don't know if she's always done that. But that was something that particularly I noticed in this tour was no backup singers because it was all the vocal stems as the harmonies. Got it. Yeah, yeah. So good. No, all in all. My only last question for you is when so spoiler alert, at the end she gets sucked up like a UF by a UFO. I'm sure everyone's on the video. It was so cool. What do you so she has to sit up there while everyone leaves? Yep. What do you think she's doing? Probably sitting on her phone. I don't know. See someone run her phone up there? She's probably taking a second to like breathe and have some water. Oh my god. Yeah, she gets so she like goes to the end of the stage where like the the big jeto thing is. She gets essentially, if you've seen the brighter days ahead, deluxe edition like album video that she put out, there's a part in the album when she gets like abducted essentially. And she recreated that to exit the tour. Yeah. She gets abducted into this like cylinder that's floating over the stage. Yep. And then is this there, just like sitting there. Hanging out. And we were like, does she is she sitting in there? She obviously is. When does she get to come out? I guess maybe. Do you think she goes across the top? No, because I did look up. Oh, it does like the lower. It's slowly lowered. I did look up videos later of people like waiting waiting around. Yeah. Did they ever catch her? Well, yeah, there's like three inches between where the cylinder comes down to and the stage that you can see her just go flip through. Oh, she goes in the stage. Yeah. And then goes down and over. Oh my god, how fun. Um so good. I would say great. Excellent. Are you on a grande? Highly recommend. I have been listening to her music afterwards. That's how I know I really enjoyed a concert. Good. That's great. Yes. We also went to Six Flags. Six Flags. What? Yes. We also went to Six Flags. We also went to Six Flags. To be honest, Chicago, this trip for me, I was putting together today. This was Tyler's make-a-wish trip. Yep. It is everything that I love was packed into four days, and it was like a pinnacle trip for me. It was perfect. It's like when you know when you describe you like perfect day.

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Yeah.

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This is a perfect weekend. The only thing that would make this trip different or less perfect or more perfect, sorry, would be if it was an international place, I think. But I had not been. Yeah. But we did a concert, a major pop concert, major pop tour. Yep. We then went to Six Flags. I drove you and our friend Marge along. Yep. I didn't drag you along. I think shout out Marge. That's the high school friend that we also were visiting throughout the weekend. What were your thoughts on Six Flags? I do have a lot of thoughts about Six Flags. Okay. I will say it was my first one ever. I've never been to that caliber of a theme park. Okay. Well, maybe. We went to Carowinds. That's pretty close. That's pretty close. But it's definitely bigger and there was more. Yeah. So we went to Six Flags Great America. Um, do you know like size-wise where that matches up? I have no concept because the my hometown theme park was Silverwood and Boulder Beach uh water park. I don't know for sure, but I do I think it's on like the top three, probably Six Legs locations in terms of the number the sheer number of big roller coasters they have. There were so many fucking roller coasters. Like I have never ridden that many roller coasters in one day in my life. I think Magic Mountain in LA has more big ones. That's crazy. Maybe every direction you look, you can see like seven coasters. Yeah. It was big. It was crazy. So, anyways, it was good. I have learned about myself at 35 that I think there is a limit to the amount of roller coasters that you can ride in one day.

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Mm-hmm.

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I would say, because I definitely didn't drink and woke up extremely sore and hung over it the next day. And that's how I felt. I think you just maybe you should have just drank more water. I did, I tried to drink water too, but I think um we were just like we hit them hard. We did. We didn't really have much of a break besides like 25 minutes. We had around 10 roller coasters at least. Yeah. But they were phenomenal. Aren't they so fun? They are they're fun. They're fun. I like it in a New York-New York way where it's like there's one roller coaster and you're doing it one time. Okay. You know what I mean? Because I think I appreciate it more and I have more time to enjoy it. And I usually get off one riding a roller coaster once, and I'm like, hell yeah, that was fun. Yeah. Too much. It's good, they're kind of like shots at tequila, right? It's like, ooh, the first one's fun, the second one's fun, the fourth one, you're like, I'm gonna throw up. Yeah. Like physically they're very similar. Like, do you think, yeah, you maybe start to like you, I don't, but you start to kind of like not appreciate like the coolness and the excitedness, the excitement of doing a roller coaster. Well, I think at a certain point, it's like dimension returns. Well, yeah, yeah, that's a good way to put it. Because they're all pretty much the same. Not even that is whatever, sure. Do you think that's the same thing? But like the no, but I know, but like the feeling point of all of them are they have like a unique thing to them. Yeah, but I think it would feel unique if you didn't do them all on the same day. No. I think you just need to open your eyes and pay attention. You want me to open my eyes on that thing. Like the one that blasted us off, totally different. The one that was a drop coaster, totally different. The one that was a huge wood and steel hybrid roller coaster that goes upside down, totally different. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think I've to me, to me. Yeah. I think I maybe just reached my limit on theme parks and what I can do and not do. Yeah. Maggie kept laughing because there's this one moment when we was like probably three quarters through the day. Yeah. And we went on what they're like this one called Wrath of Roxasha, I think it's called. And it's a brand new one. And it's this like the highest, I think it's the tallest drop coaster currently until the new one opens. There's one opening in Texas. But we went on it and it has like eight inversions, and we went on it and it got done. And rather than being like, that was cool, that was fun. Isaac was just like, I think I have to be done. I said, I I think I have to be done. So and to be fair, I went on three more. Yeah, you did. But it was fun. I think it was so fun. It was fun. Would you still want to go? Do you still want to go? Yeah. But I don't want to go if you were to go to the city. How many theme parks have you been this year? That would be like my third one, probably. How many have you gone into the last 365 days? Let me reword that. Three or four, how about five? Three or four, probably. Yeah. I think it's a once-a-year thing for me. Right. Which is perfect. But then what about within the individual day? You're saying you reached a point. I think we just gotta break it up a little bit more. Some I don't know. That's a waste of time. What are you gonna do? Eat dippin' dots? Yes. And I didn't my favorite ride of the day was I think it was called Aquaman Splash. Aquaman splash down. Splash down. So fucking. I love a log flume ride. They're so fun because the anxiety you get from people on a roller coaster is fun. But putting people on a water ride that don't want to get wet is even more fun. Yeah, you like the watching other people thing too. It's so tough of being on it yourself. That thing blasted us in the face. It was like if you went down this big drop at the end, but there was a huge jet that you could see. I could see coming down the drop that the jet was spraying higher than the actual car over the top of it. It's gonna hit us in the face. And it did, it damn well did. Yeah, I like how the I like the drama of it because you're sitting there chatting, right? You're like floating along a river, and it's kind of funny in your but everyone's like waiting for the moment where you have to get pissed on wet. Yeah. And I love it, it's so funny. I find myself being like trying to do my best to get away from the water, and then eventually it's like you can't fucking self. Right. Uh, one thing I did learn that you gotta be careful of and plan for chafing. Right. If you're gonna go on the water ride, you gotta be ready for the chafe, right? Yeah. One time. This is a really quick anecdotal story. But me, my my friend Sarah and Maggie all went to Disneyland the year after we graduated from high school, and we convinced her to go on the water ride, and she was like, I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. I don't know. Well, right. It was called uh Grizzly River, Grizzly. Oh, I love that one. Elephant Adventures. Yeah, and she was so pissed at us because she chafed the whole rest of the I was burning in my sleep. Yeah. But overall, what was your favorite coaster? What was the number one? Walk away. I think my favorite one was the one that was called X Flight, and it was it was one where the the seats were like really far away from the track, like it was super wide. Think of wings and you're on the wings. Yep. Yeah, I did like that one. And I think something about your like center of gravity or the center of gravity of the the coaster itself and us being so far away from that made like the barrel rolls and stuff a lot more smooth because they were less tight. So it really felt like you were flying. It was very smooth. I like that one too. It was fun. Like I like to feel. I like to feel like that one too. I like to feel like I'm flying, not like I'm hurling. Yeah, being jerked around. Like it spins. Yeah, and I don't like to be fucking jerk around. Yeah. And I don't like I like to spin this way. I don't like to spin this way. Right. Like I don't like to spin like that. Right, right. I like to spin like this. Right. So for for people that are just listening to the space. Zipper was my favorite favorite to flip front over back over. End over end over end, not side over side. Bass over mouth, not hand over hand. Correct. But it was fun. I appreciate you guys for keeping up with me because I was go, go, go, go, go. Know me. All I want you to be is be happy. Yeah. Cool. And on your next email, make sure you tell Dr. Ricardo that. Then the only other thing, too, we can talk about is Second City, which was, I would presume, probably a highlight of your trip. Highlight of the trip. It was so fun. Which I knew was so fucking fun. I know. It's so cool. I loved it. And I had never been to a show like that in person, but it's very SNL vibes. Yeah, can you explain to listeners that didn't, I didn't know what Second City was until the last time I went to Chicago. Oh, okay. I'm probably gonna get this wrong, but I'm gonna tell you what I know about it. Second City is very much like an I would say improv comedy focused theater. And I think it's more than it's not just like a theater. So it's not like when you go to comedy cellar. That is like a venue that has comedians. Right. This is like a full business and program. So they it's like a production in the sense of like there's multiple theaters with multiple shows and they do classes and they do like it is like a full-fledged thing. And it's where a lot of very, very, very famous comedians kind of got their start or got like their wings under them. Yeah. So Amy Polar talks about on her podcast on the time all the time. Uh Tina Fay, Rachel Dratch, um, just a lot of like the main characters that you see eventually end up in SNL or just like other big huge comedians. And so it's really Steve Carell was there, not there at the theater. Oh my god, I would have died and cried. Um, but it was so funny and it is so impressive of a skill. Like, I think comedy is one of the most impressive talents in so many ways, and all kinds. I think stand-up, I think improv, I think comedy actors. Like it just like it gets like a bad, not a bad rap, but like it never gets recognition. Historically, like it never gets the recognition that deserves any sort of like awards or anything. But I think it is so hard and it is so much talent, right? Especially improv. Yeah, so much work, I think. Yeah. So the show we went to was called Pandemonium. There were six cast members, and they were fucking phenomenal. Yeah, they were so funny. Basically, what the setup of the show is is it's just a whole series of sketches, like a sketch comedy with some improv. Yeah. So it's a whole series of sketches, and the lights go down, and there's like and there's like black lights on the stage. You can tell they're like fixing things, yeah, or like setting things up. And the lights come up and they do sketches over and over, which are anywhere between like 10 minutes to 10 seconds. 10 seconds. Yeah. And I think what they do, I think how it works is that cast all just generate ideas, yep. Create all of them, and then they they do them and they try them. Yeah, and I think for a period of time, I think it's that same like list of sketches. Yeah. Um they call it a review, yeah. Right. And they run for like a certain amount of weeks. Runs for a certain amount of weeks because we went to a different one, or I went to a different one last time I was in Chicago, and it was the exact same setup. Yep. But it's so fun. And if something is like not hitting, or you personally don't think it's funny, it's flips over. It turns over so fast that like the next one, it's really exciting. It's like, ooh, what are they gonna do next? What's gonna happen next? Yeah. And there like wasn't a bad one. No, there was like hellaciously funny and then funny, yeah. There was and like even like the 10 second ones were so fucking funny. Yeah, it's and like you can't even describe them, right? They're just like kind of you had to be their moments of things. But I love the robot one where they're making fun of city robots, those robots that are delivering all your packages, but they're little people, the groceries with the whole choreography scene with as them. It's so funny. Yeah, they did a whole one about like these this ship, this cruise ship that was going down, but it's a Disney cruise, and it's these two Disney adults, and they're letting everybody on, like they're letting women and children on the lifeboats first, kind of Titanic style, and then or parents, they're like letting parents. Women but children, and so the fact the the whole bit is like these two people are Disney adults, so they don't have a child with them, so they're not letting them on the lifeboats, and there's like all these jokes in there about like how Disney adults are made fun of. It was that one was really funny. Tell them about the church one, the pews. Oh, that's kind of hard to describe. So there's one that was like the setup of these two Irish women in a Catholic church, and like they are what they show up to the funeral and they're they're fighting about something, and one of them gets so mad that she goes to like get out of the pew, and it's like this row of six chairs, and so the whole joke is like how long the pews are in Catholic churches, and so the the girl gets like flustered and goes to like scoot out of the way, and she like scoots down the chairs, and then somebody comes from behind and starts replacing it from the back to the front, so the chairs just keep getting replaced, and she like moves all the way across the room. That's like choreography, yeah. Like she probably moved 20 feet, yeah. While one guy is pulling a chair and putting it in front of her and putting in front of her and putting in front of her and putting it's so funny. Yeah, I'm just like, how do people think of that? Yeah, uh, it was so good. I loved it. Do you think you could do it? No, maybe I think you would hate it. Uh the improv part would be tough for me. Yeah. If you gave me, I could come, I think. I think you can work with wacky short sketches. Yeah, I think I could come up with wacky rehearsed things, yeah. But there's an element of improv that I would struggle with. Yeah. I think it's also like a muscle that you like, that's why they have classes. Like, I think you gotta learn some tips and tricks and practice and practice and practice. And from what I've learned from my favorite podcast, and good hang with Amy Paul, is you really have to be okay bombing a lot. Right. And like being able to sit in that and like yes and it and just kind of keep going with it until the next thing comes up. Yeah, I was looking up the cast today on Instagram, and I was one of the guys was talking about this actual show, and he was talking about like you just have to be ready for like some things are just truly gonna just flop. Right, because they have take that in stride or take the little bits out of it that you know people did think was good, incorporate that in elsewhere where you can. Yeah, and then just keep pushing because eventually you'll have stuff that works. Yes. Okay, one last the genius one. So they do this one where he goes out and he plays, he basically it's like after intermission, and it the whole setup is like he is an AI-like person, personality, and he's out there. And first off, he nailed the personality of an AI persona. And they do this genius bit where they ask for suggestions of the crowd for the future of comedy, is all gonna be AI, is like the bit and joke. And then so they take these suggestions and then he's like responding and like slowly waiting, and then the actors have to like act it out or incorporate things, or like the person's also adjusting the prompts and like a chat GBT style of like, would you like me to do this, this, or this, or like, how would you what are like keywords you want me to use? But from an improv perspective, it was genius because AI fucks up everything all the time, so then the actors would also fuck it up, which made it like 10 times funnier. Yeah, it was so good. It was good, it was a really creative way to just do improv. Yeah, that's so current, yeah. To like what a whole bunch of people in the audience are probably having to go through at the end of the day at their work. Yeah. It was good. That was a good one. Yeah, okay. Now ask me if I would do it. Oh, that's what you wanted. I couldn't tell. That was set up. Yeah, I couldn't tell. Do you think you could do it? No, that was the question. You asked me if I want to do it. You want to do it? Yeah. Do you wait what? Would you do it is the question. You said do you think you could do it? Oh, yeah, you're right. Go ahead. Do you think you could do it? Um, I think with training and skill I could get by. I agree. Really? I think you could do it. I was sitting there thinking, like that's how my brain works. Like I just doing the thing that that you think of. I don't know. Yeah, I just think you have passion behind it. Like so much passion behind it that I think you would go and be having so much fun doing the hard work that it would take to build that skill. And I do think you've got some raw skill.

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Thank you.

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Some talent that would cater toward that industry. Yeah, I'm extemporaneous. Like, I like to I'm not as well with like prepped material. Yeah. Um, the hard thing about improv and comedy though is like you either have to like not tell anyone you're doing it or be successful and make it. You know what I mean? Like, you don't want to be in the in-between phase. That's gotta be pretty tough. Yeah, which is what they all are. Hey, what are you doing tonight? And you're like, I got improv class. Right. I don't think I could say that out loud. But it's kind of what they all are, though. Like people in that review, you know what I mean? I know. I was looking up one of the cast members has 2,000 Instagram followers. That's crazy. They're two buddies. The but what I thought was the best one, Zoe. Oh, she was so funny. I know. Yeah. Okay. So for my birthday, you can get me improv classes. Okay. Is that really what you would want? I would do like one. Actually, what I this is what I would do is I want Ariel and I to sign up together. Okay. Ariel. Ariel and you should tell if you'll do improv class. After her trying to get me to go to a fucking $80 puppet class, she better be going to improv class with me. Yeah, we'll see. Ariel. Ariel, we'll see. Yeah. If she listens to this episode, Ariel had this crazy ass idea to spend $88 to go to this freaking puppet class at the bait shop in Seattle. Which would be fine. However, our discussion less than 24 hours earlier was her thinking that buy spending $100 on glasses that you wear every single day for a long period of time. Usually glass like two years, probably at least, maybe more. Some people five. Depends upon your prescription. But we're going to $80 puppet class. It's just like the timing was really funny. Uh okay. We also did tap lightly into, I would say, one of the United States' most famous gay events. I think so. Yeah. So we did go to market days, which we didn't really know that was happening the same weekend as Area On a Ground Day. It just kind of happened to be. Yeah. For those of you who don't know what market days is, I still don't. Yeah. I mean, I guess I haven't looked up. How do you describe it? I haven't looked up with their tagline or mission. I don't even know how it started. But I think it's basically like a second pride. I don't know if they have like a specific mission, but it's a second pride essentially. What is there's a whole bunch of vendors in Boys Town. Um that's and that's like the street fest. So there's a whole bunch of vendors and and stages with performers. All of the bars have some sort of something going on. I would say it's like adult gay men pride. Yeah, yeah. Because I don't think there's like a parade, and I don't think there's like, you know, all of the other stuff that happens at a pride fest. Yeah, it's more of like a big party and festival. Yeah. It's like that piece of pride, but like blown up. Right. People from Chicago that have a bunch of history about Mark and Days are gonna really come for us on this one. But I know. Um, we went for just a day for a couple hours, just because that's all the time we had. Too many plans. It was cool though. It was really good to see. It was cool. It was really exciting to see Chicago's like gay scene. Right. It was so huge. Yes, huge. Yeah, huge. Yeah, just that street alone of like so many gay bars and options. And of course, the music was great. Jesus Christ Seattle, still massive call-out for could someone please put a bar with some good music. Yeah. So we did, we went to like commenting in the comments. I don't know. We went to the big famous bars. We went to the sidetrack, which we saw. Oh my god, we saw Dorinda. Yeah, from the Traitors. That was so funny. And formerly Housewives, more more famously Housewives, I think, than Traitors, but that's how we know it. Recently famous because of traitors. Yeah. There was a funny moment where we're on the rooftop and there's this big line going around the bar to the other, it's like a double-sided bar. I'm like, what are these idiots doing? The bar is open right here. Yeah. So then Tyler goes and asks them and is like, what are y'all online for? And someone's like, oh, Dorinda's here. And he comes back and he goes, Um, I Dorinda's here, question mark. And he's sitting there thinking Dorinda's like a Chicago drag queen, like famous drag queen. And I immediately go, Tyler, it's Dorinda, like housewife Dorinda. She's here, she's here. Yeah. Which I should have put together, but it's just I think it's so funny when housewives or people on reality TV just become these like gay icons. Yeah. I'm like Unwillingly. Yeah. Like we we just choose. Well, willingly, but I just mean like we as of their non they're not their own accord. We as in the gay man population consuming this media. Like you've been chosen. But they just so it's like all of a sudden it's like fuck, Durinda's on a press tour. Yeah. Or just a tour of eating visiting gay bars and doing meets and greets meet and greets. I'm like, does she even want to be here doing this? And there had to be like 200 people in that line at least. Oh, like it started at the rooftop, and it will, and if you've ever been to sidetrack, there's like it's like a house of whack labyrinth. Up downstairs, overstairs, da da da da da. And that line went all the way through there. Then you get to the end of it and it's Dorinda in a wet rainbow dress. Yeah. I didn't get a picture from afar. Yeah. Um, but I just am like, do you really is this what you envisioned or want? Or are you just are you happy for it? Are you stoked? Like pretty easy gig, I guess. You know what I mean? Just go to market days during the day and right. And then you could definitely tell there were some people in line that would not normally be at market days, but they're like probably a huge house live. Some middle-aged women there, and they're like, All right, we're headed to market days, ladies, because Dorinda is there. Dorinda's gonna be there. Yeah. So that was fun. But we we would like to go back at some point and like make the weekend about market days and do like a friend trip of sorts, but um, we did want to go at least check it out because we wanted to see what was going on there. And we'd never been obviously we'd never been to the gay neighborhood in Chicago. So yeah, I love to see that. It made me want to go back and spend a lot more time there with her gay friends, yeah. Okay, so being in a city like Chicago, did it make you like dream of another life? Maybe not another life. That's too that's too dramatic. But did it make you dream of like doing something else? Yeah, job-wise. I think every I know in every life you choose me. Of course, right? I think every time you go to a city, every time I go to a city, you automatically what you do is you're like, could I picture myself here? Can I picture myself elsewhere? Like, what if what if I was living here and doing this? You know? So everything about my life everything about my not my theory, but like it's all video game theory in the sense of it's all just a video game where it's like you're in a new scenario. Yeah. I think you do it even more than I do. Yeah, I'm a big dreamer. Very, very um extensively. Yeah. I just want a life in every city. Yeah. No, that's not true. I just want like a decade. Yeah. Fifteen, maybe? Fifteen decades? Years. Oh. Ten to fifteen years in every city. I just can't. Fifteen years is a long time. Maybe ten. I would want to. Ten years. But the problem is like well, maybe not five, because I feel like after five years is when I you really like knowing. You really get your stride. You know what I mean? Yeah. So maybe a decade. Yeah. I think a decade. Right. But doesn't it make you like, I feel like that's a great part about traveling in general or just going to new places is you just like sit A, you sit there and envision yourself in that city, but I just find myself doing like everything I'm looking at seeing and doing. I'm like, what if my job was this? Like we went to the aquarium and I was like, what if I was the marketing director in the aquarium? Yeah. And we went to Second City, and I was like, what if I had a normal job during the day and then I did improv classes at night? Right. And what if I was like a finance bro? You know what I mean? Like I just I but like I not a bro. Well, you wouldn't be a finance bro. No. But you'd be someone in finance. What if I was someone in finance? Yeah. Anyways, I do find myself like a lot of that. Just being like, damn, do we all just have to like continue working these corporate jobs or like do we really like go pursue our dreams and do something crazy? Right. My thought process today, sitting at my corporate desk job. You go back on a Monday and it's all just like, why the fuck am I here? Sitting at your desk and you're like, Yeah, what? Oh, here we are. Yep. My process today, or my thought process today, as I was sitting at my job, as I was listening to Ariana Grande music, as I was texting my friends, because I now have time because it was kind of a whirlwind weekend, yeah, of my actual thoughts on the tour itself. Yep, is like, I wish I could find a way to make the same amount of money doing something like reviewing world tours. Yeah, you kind of want to be like a critic, I think that's what you were describing. Yes, because I I just like off the cuff on the plane last night. Like you want to work for Vanity Fair, yes, or something. E News. I don't know. Yeah. And I just like off on the plane last night, off the cuff, because our one friend Paul, we every time we both go to like a big tour, we give we send each other thoughts after the show. And I just like rattled off all of these thoughts I had about Ariana's show itself and sent it off to him. And I'm not, it's it's like fun messages back and forth from people. And I'm like, I really think I honestly, this is gonna sound way up my own ass, but I have spent so much time studying and watching that kind of stuff, like those tours and those artists. I can like I I really do think I have enough in there in my brain, yeah. Enough like repetitions of seeing different things happening at at the way they do tours that I really have like thoughts that are kind of interesting. Yeah, like have a POV, right? I think you have so much like baseline knowledge, or like you have such a strong basis where now if you were to really tap into it and get whatever the job is, you could then go get all like the technical piece too. Yeah, like I was thinking, like I was thinking this too of like as you're watching a show like that, there's so much shit happening. Yeah, that I want to know is that automated? Is that a program that is timed to do everything like that? Is it literally a physical person? Talking about the lights and stuff, yeah. Like the bait shop Christmas show where they're flipping the light switches, you know what I mean? And like what parts is timed and what parts is not, but I know you'd be so fascinated by all that. I am. I'm fascinated by all of it. Yeah, but I just beginning to end that was my thought today is how much did it cost? Like I wish I could just like find a way to monetize that because I'm so passionate about it that I will spend hours and hours and hours studying it so I can have like an actual critical thought about it.

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Yeah.

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And I can just like I can name like what sets every major pop artist apart from the others, and like what they do well on their tours, what they didn't do well on their tours, what their strong suit is on their tours. Like, I I just wish I could find a way, and maybe I could, I don't know. Right in. Find a way to make that be like my main gig because I feel like I would have so much fun doing it. See, I I think you know the arena that you want to work in, right? But you maybe don't know how you could work in it quite yet. Right. But I yeah, I think it's a good idea. Maybe I just seem to find a way. That's kind of how that's kind of what I do with my current career. Exactly. I wanted to find a way to be in some sort of thing. So I was like, I'll get this degree and I'll find a way to be in aviation with this degree. Yeah. Stop yawning. Like, yeah, I never know. But I mean, I totally think again. Do people still read blogs? I think so. I don't know. I think you like the writing piece of it. Yeah. And there's no stakes other than time. Right. Um, time is the big thing. But you could start like everything you do with your bullet journal where you do like preset list predictions, what actually happened post-set list. Like, I mean, of course, you can start a TikTok channel, but I I agree with you, like everyone does that. There's a thousand people out there doing that. But do you think there's a way you can like set yourself apart? Maybe, yeah, I don't know. You're tall. Yeah. That helps. Hey everyone, I'm tall. Here are my thoughts on the Eternal Sunshine Tour. Yep. I'm 6'4, and this is 6'9 by Ariana Grande. Is that a song? No, it's 34 plus 35. I tried. Yeah. You're close. I told you you do that. Same thing with roller coasters. Like, I think you know, that's the other thing. You probably write a whole essay on everything you experienced that day that was way over my head physically. Right. But Maggie made a funny, she's like, they were she comments screaming our goddamn heads off, just like trying to live and survive and hope we make it to the end of the 90-second ordeal. Yeah. I have no, it kind of looks like I have no emotion. Like in all the pictures, I'm either just smiling or just like stone stoic. Yeah. But Maggie was like, I've I feel like it's it's because you're like in your brain, while we're going on those things, you're like going through all of the mechanics of it. You're like, drop here, 90 degrees, bank to the left, blah blah blah. And I'm like, kinda, I kind of am. You are. It's like when you stuff when it stops, it's like you need like a clipboard to be like, okay. Oh yeah. And then they're 90 degree, yep. Exactly. And then I felt a little bit okay, yep. I love it. And I know even the loop, swoop, and pull at the end of the yeah, there's the general terms of like the different ways that roller coasters do like inversions, right? So like when I pointed that one out, I'm like, see, that's called a pretzel loop. Things like that. I mean, I did dabble in roller coaster tycoons, so I'm not an idiot. Okay. I've ran several successful theme parks. Right. Mm-hmm. And still do, occasionally on flights on my iPad. That's true. So do you know what a heartline roll is? Heartland roll? Heart Heartline. Heartline roll. Yes. Okay. It's where it goes up and twists and down in twists. Yes. Is that true? No. Oh, I was just guessing. Heartline roll is when they when it when the the car itself actually rolls, and the goal of it or like the the point of it is that the the point in which you rotate is close to where your heart is, like the actual center of the people on the ride. That's fucked up. Why? What is it? It's a twist? Yeah, it's basically a barrel roll. A lateral twist. Yeah. Okay, give me another one. Got any others? This is fun. You know what a corkscrew is, probably, right? The technical definition of a corkscrew, this one I do kind of know because it's not well, it's a loop that goes like this. Yes. And one, but there's a half corkscrew, it's just up. Yes. And then down. Yeah. And then a full corkscrew. Mm-hmm. Okay. What about a cobra roll? Cobra roll? Mm-hmm. A cobra roll is you go up like this. So you it goes up. Now you're just being dumb. Well, now I'm trying to think of what they would be. A cobra roll. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably shaped like a cobra. Very common on wooden roller coasters, specifically timber tear. At the end, it's like a coil. So then you go in and you bank fully and bank around. That's called a helix.

unknown 56:22

Oh, damn, I really thought I had it.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

But it does, it's like shaped like a cobra head. So it's a half loop, corkscrew, and corkscrew into another half loop. I'll show you a picture of one after this. Oh, it's like this. But the way it's the way it sits, yes. Am I doing it right? It looks like two arms like this. Yep. Looks like the head of a cobra. Okay. Cool, huh? Amazing. Isn't that interesting? No, it's it's so interesting. Okay. I I everything that you're describing, I absolutely think you can find somewhere. I just have to do this untapped potential. How do I monetize it? It's just the conversations between friends right now. That's life. It's getting me nothing. Yeah, I know. Mine would be I want to go to every single hotel. Not every single hotel, but I want to do the same thing that you do, but at hotels. Right. And I want to talk about the lobby bar, and I want to talk about the housekeeping, and I want to talk about the sheets, and I want to talk about which is a real job. You can that's I think that's a very real job. But you're saying at a scale that's like it's getting published somewhere. Not like a I don't want to do it in like an inspector way. Yeah. That's not what I want. Right. I want to do it in like a travel experience way. Right. You know what I mean? And then you write like travel blogs, which been tons of people do this. And then you go through like, here's everything I recommend. And go here to here to here, and then oh, you're gonna be there for here's a two-day itinerary. That's gone with chat GPT, baby. I know.

unknown 57:37

Stuff mine.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

The way that I want to say I want to have personal POV on it. Yeah. That's what I want too. Yeah. Right. But I don't think it's Gama Chat GPT because it has to source it from somewhere. That's someone has to have provided that experience. But you don't think it's out there yet? Uh no, because there's so many places, especially restaurants. Like when I was in Maui for work, I said, like, I have two hours. This is where I need to start, this is where I need to end. Like, what is the or three hours? What is like the best itinerary for me to maximize scenery? Yeah. A one place to eat experience. And it was but it's sourcing it. It is from a million data points of people providing input and reviews and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I think that would be cool. And I also think people are kind of leaning away from that where they want more just like high touch travel. Yeah. Fair. That's true. High touch uh travel referrals. Mm-hmm. Oh, we switch depends how we do that. Oh shoot. But anyways, yeah, it was a really good trip and it did make me think, is there life out there? Right. Okay. So we're not at the encore for summer, but I would say we're approaching the fourth act for sure. We're not at the top of the roller coaster. I would say we're in the cobrahead. Cobra heart stopper. Cobra roll. Heart line. Heart line. Heart line. Heartline roll. Heartline roll. Yeah. Sorry, anyways. Okay. So we're at intermission. We're part way through. Second city performance of summer. What do you want to get with the rest of your summer of 2026? Well, I already know what I'm going to get because it's all booked. Okay, what are you hoping to get out of it? Just kidding. I want to remain focused. This is kind of like woo-woo, but. Ooh, that's noofy. You're not a woo-woo. Well, I just kind of want to remain focused and go into the stuff we have left, being like intentional. Yeah, like I'm going to enjoy this and I'm going to, yeah. Yeah. Because I think a big part that I struggle with is like I struggle enjoying a weekend or an activity that we're doing because I'm already being like, but we got this next, and then we got this next, and we got this next. And so I think really like taking the time to enjoy what we are doing coming up is something that I want to make sure that I do intentionally. Yep. We have one open weekend. So we got to decide what we do want to do with that, or do we not want to do anything with that? You know what I mean? Yeah. We obviously I think we should try to get like one more water ski in. Yeah, a couple. Or a couple. One of my things is that we gotta get Lex up on skis. Yeah. That's a good one. We gotta get Lex up on skis. We're not stopping the summer until it happens. So I don't care if it's October, November, December, summer 2026, it's not stop until Lex is on two skis. Okay. Good. I like that. I like where your head's at. Determination. I don't care if she's freezing. I don't care if her lips are blue. Uh, what do you want to get out of the rest? Um, I think the same. Like just kind of like a you know, when the coaster comes down and you got that loop that comes around the corner and it's going into the station. I like that part. I do too. Yeah. And after the water line, you've got you got a couple more turns, you know? Yeah. Big waterfall up ahead. Big sharp rocks at the bottom. Big analogy guy. What was that from? Uh Empress New Groove. Thank you. Um, but that kind of period where I do want to like, we have a couple fun things. I do have two work trips. I'm going to two new cities I've never been to, Baltimore and Boston. Yeah, that's exciting. So I'm excited for that. That is exciting. I don't know anything about Baltimore other than people talk a lot about the crab cakes. So I'm gonna try to find those. Um are you renting a car? Probably not. No, I never rent a car. Okay. Well, we'll talk about that. Yeah. Um, do I need to get from the airport? No. One of the confusing things about terrain, I don't understand. DC, I'm landing in a different state. Yeah. DC is really close. That's why I asked. Yeah, it's crazy. So oh, so like you could go down. I went to DC when I was in Baltimore. Yeah, I used it on our time, but I can try. See. I also think one thing that we also should pay attention to coming in or out of the summer is not feeling like it's done after Labor Day. Yeah, it's not. Because we do have like a really nice fall in Seattle. Back for school season, like I said. Yeah. I agree. I think we have a lot of fun stuff planned. I think it doesn't feel as jam-packed. Yeah. And some of those fun things are local or local-ish within a couple hours from Seattle. So I like doing that kind of stuff, some chill weekends. We've got Slater coming up. I am so fucking pumped for Slater. But I think actually is probably going to be your show of the year. Yeah, it's my album of the year. It's also gonna be my song of the week. Perfect. Amazing. Yeah. But it's gonna be a song you're not gonna expect. Okay. She just had a huge moment at Lala, which was the weekend before we went to Chicago. Yeah. Where it was like the Chapel Rone effect, where it's like and there's so many people here. A hundred thousand people there to see us later. Like crazy. Do you see the video of her? Like, she comes out of like a house, looks like a house door. Oh. There's a video of like her coming out of the door and being just like gobsmacked at the amount of people that are there. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have to look it up. Okay. So it's still lost to enjoy the summer. So thank you everyone for joining our halftime show. Three quarters of the way through summer, and I'm starting for everything else to bring. Lights. I do have a hey that doesn't suck. Okay. Well, it's kind of just a funny one. I learned today that for the first time in like 10 years, specifically sales of CDs have gone up year over year. That does not surprise me. Yeah. It's like we had our we had like the record effect where we're all getting vinyls. Now it's CDs, which is funny. I think people are I think people are doing it in like a retroway in the same way that millennials did vinyls. Yeah. I feel like maybe Gen Z, Gen Alpha are doing CDs compact. Kind of funny to me because I'm like, they were so cumbersome and a panic. You know what I mean? I'm like, I don't have a desire to have a big house full of CDs. Yeah. Well, if you have vinyls. But I first have vinyls are cool. You know what I mean? Like the way that I feel about vinyls is probably how they're feeling about CDs. But see, vinyls to me so much more. To me, vinyls are so much more like visually derived. Like there's so much visualness to it. We don't like clutter. Whereas CDs, CDs to me are vinyls have a visual element to it, right? Like you can see it's playing. Yes. It comes with like a people use it as like decor and stuff. What's the word? It's very analog. Analog. It's very analog. But so are CDs if you really kind of think about it. Yeah. But it's just it's quite literally compact. Yeah. So compact. So that's kind of fun. Something fun. Yeah. I know. I keep getting videos that are like, this is what high school was like in 2009. It just kind of makes me sad. It hit me too. It was so simple, and we didn't know it because it didn't feel simple. Right. It felt like we were living in the future more so than we are now. Or right now it's like, fucking fuck you, future. I don't like this. Yeah. It's too much. Right. Okay. So that was my hey, this isn't sucked. And then uh my song of the week. Back to Slater, really quick. I think you're gonna find this one as a surprise. Do you know James Dean on her last album? Yeah, I do. I really like that one. I think it was actually it's like the second song on the album, right? Third. Third? Yeah. I think third. Yep, yep, yep. I do know. I do really like that one. Cool. Yeah, it's like I think with Slater, it puts me into the mindset of what people are experiencing on Molly at house music and EDM shows with no lyrics. Okay. I feel like I'm almost close to that. Okay. Yeah. That's an interesting take. Yeah. People are not gonna like that, but that's how I feel. But I really like it. Like it's like kind of euphoric. Like it's like and I really like the beat. Did you just recently come across it? Uh yeah, because I went through and I listened to her whole discography. Gotcha. Which I'd only heard the hits from you on her most recent album, but that's one that I really pulled from. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So yeah, that's my tongue of the week. What's yours? Uh I'm gonna do one from Ari's tour. Well, actually, she didn't play it on the tour because it's from her new album that came out the week before we saw her. So it's one called Nowhere Nobody. It's actually the last song on the album. But it's so good. It's do you ever have you ever you know songs? You know songs where they I don't know if I can think of an example for you. And I can't, but it's probably something you won't know. But you know, because I'm dumb. No, you just don't pay attention like I do in this in this area. Heartbreak loop. In this area. Heartbreak swirl. So she does this thing where you like the lead up to the chorus, like is like a regular song, sort of. But then the chorus is no it's okay. I got an example for you. Okay, I'm ready. Image and heap. I love image and heap. Okay, what's the hide and seek? Yes. Yes, I love that song. Okay, so anyway, it's it's kind of like that, but not necessarily, but it sounds like that. Basically, she it's like a regular-ish song up to the chorus, but then the chorus itself is just vocals, and it's like stacked vocals. Oh, no music, no music. Oh and it she does that during that song. You know me too well. You know, hide and seek similar to the song Destiny by Laney from their last album. Okay, but I just think it's like so appealing to the ear. Yeah. So yeah, it's my favorite song on the album, and I think it's kind of becoming a fan favorite. Oh, interesting. Or like a gay fan favorite. I haven't listened to the whole album, but I have listened to the popular one so far. You have to. It's good. It's really good. I know. I do think I actually will like it. It is. You said you liked Thank You Next. I think it is like Thank You Next, and if you were to put it in like Ari album speak, yeah. I think it's like Thank You Next and Elements of Eternal Sunshine are kind of like had a baby, and that's kind of this album, sound wise. Okay. The sound is really fun, like it's kind of harsher, yeah, but still soft. Yeah. In a way, it's good. It's good. Yeah. It's unique. It's like total, it's like new for her, too, which is great. She's like, she's just so talented. She's so and and all of the writing credit on the album, at least when you watch like the writing credit on Apple Music, there's one song that has like Max Martin and someone else on it. Hate That I Made You Love Me, like the lead single. Everything else, the writing credit is just her. Okay. Let that sink in. That is crazy. You have to stop with the hard snap. Why? I don't know. It's usually when you're trying to really prove a point about it. That was so good on the playing last night. That's exactly what I was trying to describe to you about Bernie Spears. And I didn't have my own. We cannot get into this. I didn't have the words to say it, but that is what I meant. Thank you so much for joining us in this episode of There Are No Gays in Montana. As always, please write in. Um you can email us at no gaze in Montana at gmail.com. Or you can contact us on all socials at No Gays in Montana. So I think that's it. All right. Okay, now let's talk about Tate McRae dipped in gold. No, she's back. Tate McCrae is back. We have to go stop. We gotta go back and she's gonna enter a new era. And it's so sorry. We are out of time. Thank you so much.