35. Confidently Sober : Jaime Andersen's Story, Part 2

In this heartfelt and powerful episode, Jenn is joined once again by Jaime Anderson—her very first podcast guest and now her first returning one. Since her last appearance, Jaime has hit over three years of sobriety, left her corporate tech job at Amazon, become a certified sober coach, and launched her signature group program, Confidently Sober.Jaime opens up about the deep roots of her relationship with alcohol, the impact it had on her family life and health, and the pivotal moment that led her to quit for good. She also shares the tools and strategies that helped her stay sober—including podcasts, community support, and creating new daily habits she now teaches others.

Plus, Jenn and Jaime dive into:

• How Jaime found her “alcohol-free identity”
• The power of community and coaching
• Helping her mom go sober at nearly 70 years old
• What changed in year three of sobriety
• Lessons on parenting, confidence, and setting boundaries

Whether you're sober-curious, on your own alcohol-free journey, or supporting someone else, this episode is packed with inspiration, raw honesty, and actionable tips.

Learn more about Jaime and her coaching:
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Transcript

Jenn (00:26)
Hi, Jaime, my first ever podcast guest is back again. So you're my first repeat. How exciting is this?

Jaime (00:34)
Yay, I'm so glad to be back. It's been really great just listening to your episodes since I was first on. So thank you for inviting me.

Jenn (00:41)
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for listening to them. So, it's been, guess, probably, I guess a year and a half since I had you on. Does that sound right?

Jaime (00:49)
Yes, time flies. Yeah, and when you're sober.

Jenn (00:54)
What, yeah. That's a very good point. Talk about, in case listeners haven't heard about your initial interview, let's kind of recap that and then you can expand if you want to and then I'll ask you some questions throughout and then maybe what you're doing now.

Jaime (00:58)
Let's...

Sounds great. So yeah, so my name is Jaime Anderson. I'm based in the Seattle, Washington area. I'm about 20 minutes north of the city. I was born and raised in Washington state. 43 years old. I have two kiddos, Charlotte, who is four and she's just so adorable and sassy. And then Edward who is eight and he's about to go in the third grade. And then I've been married to my husband Luke for several years. I think like 14 years now we've been together for about 20 years.

And so, so for me, I'm actually a full time sober coach, which is awesome. But for me, the way I got there was, you know, I've been I was a drinker since I think my first beer was in the seventh grade, which is crazy. I remember my parents always had beer in the house and beer was just part of like, growing up and just like a part of the culture I grew up in, like always like Bud Lights, Miller Lights, very big beer drinking family or hard alcohol family.

And so I just remember my first beer, I brought it over, I snuck it out of the fridge with my two girlfriends, Jen and Cassandra in seventh grade, and we drank it in my friend's room. And we just thought it was the most fun time we ever had. We all had older siblings that were like very popular in our high school. grew up in a very small town called Buckley, Washington.

so they're all popular partiers. So we wanted to be like our older siblings. So

That kind of started it for me. And then after that, just continuing to like be a partier in high school, but also very good grades, good student. I was like on the leadership team and played sports. So I kind of had like two identities growing up, which is kind of crazy. But it was just something that I always did. And my mom and my stepdad always drank. My grandparents were both alcoholics on my mom's side. And it's just all I knew, even when I was like...

And early in high school, my brothers, my parents have property outside of town by Mount Rainier. They would go away a lot and they would leave us. And I just remember cleaning up after parties with my brothers, picking up cigarette butts, beer cans outside, and they would like pay me money to do it. I just thought, this is so cool. So it was just like all part of me. And then, you know, and I think a lot of it too was I was a little bit shyer and it just helped me have that confidence.

to be able to talk to boys, to be social. And it just gave me that liquid courage that I never had. And to be honest, I don't really remember a lot of conversations about like drinking from my parents or anything like that. It was just kind of how it was. And then I ended up, you know, I did went to college in Washington State University, go Cooke's. It's in a small town called Pullman, Washington. And it's a party school. There's not a lot out there. So if you look it up, it's like in the litter, literally in the middle of a bunch of like wheat fields called the Palouse.

And so I just remember I was so sad when my mom and my brother dropped me off there. But that first night I ended up rushing for sorority and I was out with like my big sis and we were at a party and I was like, oh my God, there's alcohol everywhere. And I just thought it was just the most amazing thing that's ever happened to me. Just this like constant free access of alcohol. And then I just

was drinking a lot in college, just like every other college kid was really doing. Still got really good grades, but it's just kind of who I was. Just again, a part of my identity, me and my friends, I ended up dropping out of the sorority about the same year. It just wasn't my thing, but just ended up living with some guys and one year. And then my other college girls, we just drank a lot. It was just kind of how it was. And then, I took that into my twenties where I met my husband, Luke, about 24, and we met.

at a bar in Fremont, which is a really cool neighborhood in Seattle. And we had mutual friends from college, but never knew each other. And then that's just how you connected. Like we'd go to bars during the week. We both like work jobs. I worked at like progressive insurance as a claim gesture and he worked in enterprise and we would just party. That's just what we did. We really just carried that in until my late thirties. And then I had my first son when I was 35. And when I had him, I had him on summer. I was on maternity leave. I always worked in tech.

And I was so happy to be with him in the summer. But what I wanted to do is drink less because I was breastfeeding. so I switched from light, light beers to like very thick IPAs, which in my mind, I was like, Ooh, I can drink a little bit less, but still get that buzz and that feeling I wanted. And then so

I think with that, mean, and I was also doing like the breasts, you know, the, testing of the milk and all of that kind of stuff, just to make sure I could drinking. And then that's what Luke and I just did. Like. We would just walk around. lived in Ballard, which is a really cool neighborhood. lived there several years in Seattle, but we would walk around and just with the baby and go into like ale houses and just like see the places and just drink beers and eat. And that's what we did. That's kind of like fun. So, you know, so it's just always part of who I was. And then fast forward to the pandemic.

By that time my son was about to turn three. My father passed away from esophageal cancer right before. Edward, my son, was diagnosed with autism during the pandemic. And I worked for Amazon, which I just recently left. And we were told, hey, you're going to be like, we're going to like take it easier on you guys. You you guys are working from home. We're going to try to like manage workloads. It wasn't that. I was put on this huge COVID project.

And I was so busy. It was like so stressful. And so I was drinking, we were drinking like 10, 12 beers a night, every single night, joking with our coworkers while my son Edward was just turned three, like watching TV all day, just so stressed out. Ended up having, ended up getting pregnant. And I was drinking so much before that. I ended up having a miscarriage actually on my birthday in March of that year. And I really, truly think it was because of the stress and from drinking so much.

And so that day I like my birthday, I remember where my aunt's lake house, which I was actually just out over the weekend and just started drinking again. And then that next like 25 days, I felt like I was just drinking a lot. just wasn't ever really proud. There's just a lot going on in the world. And I just didn't like have any healthy coping skills to do it. So it was just drinking. And then my son's birthday, I woke up.

And I was kind of making an ass of myself. had like a birthday party on zoom. And I just was like, I woke up and I call my brother and I was like, I think I have a problem drinking like 10, 11 beers a night. I like it. I feel like I'm not even getting that drunk. And so I just like called him because I wanted, I needed somebody to be accountable for. And so, and honestly, I think at that point too, like, I don't think the sober world was out there yet. Like I just didn't know. And so I ended up taking a break for 46 days and somehow I got pregnant with my daughter Charlotte.

So I ended up, so that was just like a blessing there. And then so about a year after, actually, so a year later, so when Charlotte was a few months old, I turned 40 and I was starting to drink again right after I had her. We ended up buying a beach house on Whitby Island, just kind of our COVID place. And we just started, after her, just started treating it like kind of our, every weekend was a vacation. There's a brewery in town, we'd be going there. We'd get up here Friday night. Saturday, we literally

could not wait until it opened at noon. We would just try to get through. We'd always drink Friday, try to get through just to, with the kids in the morning and then take them to the brewery. And then we'd sit there for hours with the kids, like little kids with their iPads, just like drinking beers. And then we'd come home and drink more. And we just, and it just became this like cycle. And then my fortieth birthday was around that time. And I ended up going to Palm Springs with my girlfriends from my dorm at Wazoo. And I was like sneaking beers and stuff. And I,

Before that, was like telling my husband, was like, I don't think they're going to drink as much with me. Like, and we were joking about it. Like, well, I think I'll just probably hide some beers, have them in the room, no big deal. And I was doing that. And I was also like sneaking beers out and putting them in the garbage when no one knew. And the thing was like, I never got like crazy sloppy drunk. mean, I got like very buzzed, but it wasn't like I was passing out or blacking out. Like, and then I came back.

Right after that next day, came back from Palm Springs, went to the doctor just for my normal checkup, which is bad planning. like my, she said my cholesterol was off the chart. She pretty much told me I was probably about 60 pounds heavier at that point than I am today. And she was like, you need to go on a Mediterranean diet and pretty much get your shit together. And I was like, okay, still didn't do anything about it. So you your was really high at that point. Yeah. yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, I could, yeah. mean, and I was never like,

Jenn (09:45)
this point, right?

Jaime (09:52)
drinking every day, I could stop. But I was at the point where I'd wake up on a Thursday morning and I would want those beers right away. And I also worked at Amazon, which is very high demanding. It's like, you know, it's pretty intentional to put it worked really well with me, because that's just how I function. But then I had like two little kids, ones on the spectrum. And it was just kind of what I was doing. All I was doing on Man of Stress is the only thing I did, I worked out and stuff. But like, I just didn't.

do anything else. Like really, it was just like wanted to drink. And so it was really like Thursday nights, Friday, Saturday. And it was kind of like, and then every Monday I'd be like, wow, like I need to take a break again. And so I'd try the moderation game where it'd be like, all right, well, I'm not going to drink on a weeknight. I'm only going to do one Saturday. Okay. Thursday comes around and me and my husband are drinking buddies. So like, Ooh, should we? Okay. And then it's just like repeating it and constantly thinking about it and knowing I needed to cut back, but not.

But even like before I really started to think about it, I thought I loved it. I loved drinking. I loved how it made me feel. I thought it was cool. And it just made it was that part of me that made me fit in with other people. And so it's crazy. Like, so I was, yeah, so it just became this thing.

that was March of 2022 and then I ended up not really doing anything and then like right after that we were had plans to go to a brewery on a Thursday and we Picked up my daughter Charlotte from daycare, which is like two minutes from the brewery right by your house and my Nina who watches her said that she had a rash

and we didn't know what it was from. So we looked at it and we're like, oh my God, like, let's take her to the doctor's office. And like, so we tried to get in, we couldn't get in. And instead we're like, we want to go to the brewery, what do we do? So we went into like the CVS store, got her some allergy medicine and she was only like a year at that point. And we just gave her allergy medicine and went to the

we didn't go home. And the whole time I was like, I really wanted to have the beer and I just was like, something is off. It's like, this is just seems really messed up I did that. Like, why would I prioritize that? Right.

And so I still didn't do anything and that was like April right after. And then I ended up. fourth of July weekend, we were at our beach house. We had like friends come over. I think that fourth of July ended up being like a Monday or Tuesday. And so we were there like Thursday for days straight and we were just like drinking, drinking, drinking, like not stop what you do. Right. And I just woke up the day after fourth of July on July 5th, 2022. And I was just like, I can't do this anymore.

I was like, I need a break. And I looked at my husband, I was on this couch right here and I was just so hung over. It just felt awful. And he said, okay. And he's like, I'll take it too. And I was like, great. But at that point, I started to like, find some sober podcasts. It was like sober mom life with one of them. And I just started to find like on Instagram, there's some sober content out there, but like didn't know too much about it. And then I just took that first 30 days, I started just walking.

I started drinking like athletic brews. at some point, sometimes I would drink like four of them a night just to like get me through. And I just started running again too, within the first 30 days, I took like seven days, seven years off and I just started running again and I just, something happened and I just kept freaking going and I don't know exactly what it was is I just kept going and it was hard at first. I felt like super uncomfortable. I felt like.

kind of in my skin, I didn't know what to do. I just felt like something was like missing. I was irritated at first, but then the longer you go, the better, the better it gets. And then I just started, I joined a community with Lighthouse community with Jen Hurst. Did one of her like 75 day challenges where I learned about habits and incorporating healthy habits.

And then she ended up having her own community. And then I ended up running a Sunday meeting there. And I just started to like find this community of women that were just like me. but that, you know, we all had this thing in common alcohol, but very different, but we had this thing that was just like such a part of us. And we just all struggled with it. And so after that, I ended up just doing a coaching like program.

Over in the UK, I flew over by myself for a few days with Jaime Lee Gray. She runs a sober club and I did that by myself. Literally have never done that. Like went to London by myself. It was like such a great experience. And, ⁓ and then I ended up doing another program from Carolina from euphoric, which is where I met you and.

Then yeah, and then so I just started doing these certifications and I was starting to do it, but I got a little burned out with working full time in that. And so I took a break, but I recently picked it up again a few months ago and I quit my job at Amazon and now I'm here. So I mean, really for me, it's been just absolutely life changing. And I was finding, cause like I was always like Amazon and being corporate was like my identity.

But I found as I like was shifting into this new alcohol free identity that like the Amazon hustle, the work culture, that thing was just no longer aligning with like me and who I am and this new alcohol free identity. And so I actually just decided to take a break for mental health because I was really having a hard time just with stress. And I took the time off and decided I was like, you know what coaching is like my passion. I absolutely love women like helping women like

you know, live their best lives alcohol free. And so now I'm here. And it's been like really great. yeah, that's a little bit of my story. So I probably talked a little longer than I was supposed to.

Jenn (15:35)
That's awesome. So I do want to ask you, like you said you had taken a break a few years before that was like 46 days, I think you said. What did you use for that? Or was that just like you just did it and kind of willpower through it? Or do you remember doing or having any resources?

Jaime (15:51)
Just my husband did it with me. I had nothing and it was like right during the pandemic and we were pretty much at that point like stuck at home. So no, I think I just like really white knuckled it like through because at that point there was nothing. I remember having quit like a woman at some point but that was after that. So no, I mean I think we just said hey we're doing this together and we just did it.

So I think at that point too, it was like, were drinking so much during the pandemic, like a lot of people that I was just like, I need a freaking break. Like this is not healthy. And I did have a call, like, my son's right where I was just like, I embarrassed myself. Like I was embarrassed and I haven't really ever done that before. And I was just like, I think I need to like slow this down a little bit. Just take a break, reset. And then, yeah, so.

Jenn (16:40)
So then after July 5th, when you quit quit, how long until you started using or how long until you met up with Jen Hirsch?

Jaime (16:50)
Yeah, so July, October, I joined her program. So I remember because I was on my way back from Pullman visiting my brother, he lives there. So I actually went to my college town right after I quit drinking, which was really hard, by the way. And I signed up on the way. There was just a poll. I was like, and I'm the type I like the challenges. I like checking the box and like that just I've always been that way. And so I was like, you know, I'm going to try this. And I don't even really know why I just felt like I wanted to be part of something.

And yeah, and it was great. It's like, so she has like five habits, six, five, six habits, think. And then yeah, so.

Jenn (17:28)
That's cool. So until you started her program, you kind of did your own thing then, like you did it on your own, right?

Jaime (17:36)
I did. was podcasts, scrolling Instagram, like literally I would, there was a few accounts I loved. was really into sober mom life with Suzanne. Like that was like my key one. And I honestly would just scroll it just to keep me like grounded. It was kind of like my anchor during that time. Cause I didn't know any other tools or anything really to do to quit. So it was just all about that. Moving my body. just checking in with like,

My brother, I also had a really good friend that we kind of lost touch. She quit drinking a long time before I did. And I think part of me just kind of slowly kind of pushed myself away because it just made me feel bad. Like honestly, because it happens. You're like, and I like reconnected with her Instagram and she's my running bestie. We run every weekend. Like she's a really close friend of mine. And so I started going back with her and talking to it because so she was kind of my person too. ⁓ But yeah, it was really just.

kind of figuring it out on my own, which is shock is shocking to me. I think maybe if I wouldn't have joined Jen program, I don't know if I would have continued down this path because I don't know if I really, I didn't do the work because you have to really do it. You can't just quit drinking. Like you have to put in the work and like really kind of, I like kind of, you know, like why was I drinking in the first place? Like what was that giving me? I didn't really do a lot of that. But the one thing I did do, I think was helpful is I was writing down just on my notepad of my phone.

all my wins, all the things that I was doing. And I probably heard it from like, I also loved Casey's Hello Sunday podcast. That was like a huge one. So I was just writing it like my face looks better. I made it through my first sober wedding. I went to a concert with my best friend, like all these things that were so freaking hard, but I just wrote them down and I still have a list and I'll go back and like look at it. So that's a huge thing for me. Just write down all the things you do. can be so little, but it makes a difference. Like seriously.

That's kind of, and I also did not go to the brewery. It took me three years to go to the brewery in town we always used to go to. So also avoid things that make you uncomfortable. literally couldn't look at it if I drove by. Like I would, it made me like, like I just couldn't do it. And so I also had to just be very mindful of my situations. Yeah.

Jenn (19:46)
⁓ So did you seems like you leaned on your brother quite a bit is does he not drink are you closer?

Jaime (19:54)
He's not a big drinker. He used to because he also went to the same school I went to. And we said we actually used to drink a lot before we had kids. We go into Ballard and we play this game called three in fifteen. That's where you pound three beers in fifteen minutes. And then that means essentially you could catch up with anybody else that's been drinking for hours. It's insane. It's very hard to do. And but he just got to the point he's turning 50. He told me for saying that next month.

So he's like over the years, he just likes that it does not make me feel good. And he's just not into it. So like, it's easy. So I don't think I don't know, it's probably been a long time since he's been drinking which is really good. So and he's just like my best friend, he's older than me. And he just someone I feel like I can just tell anybody to. And while I have my husband, Luke, I do think it's important to have an accountability partner that is not your actual partner. That is a key. Because

If your partner says also, I'm like, maybe we should have a drink. It's a lot easier to say F it. it's very, and it's also hard for learners to understand like what you're going through. Very little, very little. Like he essentially told me the other day, cause we talk about a lot. Like he just said, like, you're like, essentially I'm not drinking anymore. And so something has to change and it's essentially he's not. also like,

Jenn (21:01)
breaks, right?

Jaime (21:16)
he's not gonna wanna drink himself around us. Like, so he'll like, if he comes up here by himself or goes to, he loves to go into boxing matches, he'll have some beers, but he does not drink. Like it's, and I used to be like, you sure you don't wanna drink? You sure? I'd be like, why do I do that? But even like for us it'd be like the weekend he doesn't drink. Like, so no, very little. And so I think also he just seeing the benefits of like what I've had and he's in the best shape of his life.

So it's just kind of like, really, feel very lucky because a lot of women don't have that experience with their husbands. And so he's been a really great partner, but I think he just kind of said like something has like, he did have to come along for the ride on this one.

Jenn (21:55)
Do you wanna talk about your mom at

I understand your mom's had quite a break from alcohol and probably you were a big part of that, correct?

Jaime (22:01)
Yeah. So, so like I said, like growing up, my mom and then my stepdad, like a lot of drinking and then my mom's parents were alcoholics and then my mom's always had issues with alcohol as well. But she just hit the, she's about to hit eight months alcohol free, which is absolutely crazy. Um, and I'm just so proud of her, but she joined one of my group coaching programs recently. And I think for her, she's never.

she's always been judged for drinking and she's never been given love and support that she should have had. And it's just always been really hard for her. I don't think she's just ever had somebody just say, this is hard, we get it, we love you. And so she's never had a community of women too. And so she joined my recent group coaching program and it's the first time she's ever felt like she wasn't alone.

And like other women were like sharing like their struggles too. And she was like blown away by this because it's also something a lot of, you know, she's turning 70 next year and you know, a lot of women her age, they just don't share these type of things. They're just grew up not to share feelings and everything. And you know, I was like that too. And it's just so, so she's really opened it up to the group. She's sharing things she's never had. She's actually like feeling healthy habits now.

I call them sparkles in my program. But essentially she's like reading. She's like, she just had knee replacement surgery too, which she got through without alcohol. And, and she's like starting to walk again. And she's like in the community posting. And if you follow me on Instagram, she's like my biggest fan. Jules is out there. So it's been really like really great to see her do that because I just, know how hard it's been and I've been there with her. A lot of people ask me like, is it hard to coach my mom? But it's like, you know what, like,

It's worth it. You know, I always, she calls me coach Jaime. So I'll be like, do you want, do you need daughter Jaime or like coach Jaime when we talk because yeah. And so it's been really good for her. I'm just glad that she found like a supportive non-judgment community. You know, that's not like where she doesn't feel shame every day for like the things that have happened in our past. So I'm excited for her. She's, you know, she's just one day at a time. She's doing the work. But it.

but it's working for her. So I'm just hoping it will continue. So it makes me happy. And this is why I do it. I think a lot of women just don't know where to start. They don't know what tools you do, like community, healthy habits, just all the different things that we do in these programs. So it's been really great to see. So I'm super proud of her. She's my favorite. Yes.

Jenn (24:38)
Coach Jaime. Okay, before we talk about where people can find you, I want to ask you, like, so I think probably I've been in the halfway point when I first interviewed you, had you on. So any other benefits that you've seen, you know, in the difference between a year and a half or over three years of being alcohol free? Or if you just want to talk about them.

Jaime (24:58)
Yeah, I mean, I think for me, like, it's confidence, like, and so for me, I'm all about helping women find confidence in their new alcohol free identity. So like, I feel like I finally like really love myself. I like inside and outside and it took a work. It's not like over I quit drinking, it just happened. Like I put in a lot of, you know, like time to invest in myself. A lot of self care time, just quiet time, things like that. And so I would say for me, it's like the confidence.

I have a lot of confidence in just like my choice, alcohol free. And I just, I share it with everybody. I'm super proud of that. I also feel like I'm at a point too, where I just don't care as much about, I don't care what people think about me. don't know if I'm not in the, we do not care club. So, and I just feel just, I feel really good in my own skin. And I never felt that way. Like I was always the type that was always on diets. I was, know, high school, was on the cabbage soup diet, I was on this diet, that diet.

And I was just always just never really just happy with myself. And I feel like I'm finally there. So I would say that for confidence is huge for me, confident in my decisions and just who I am. And then also, I'm a better mom, 100%. Being a mom to little kids, it could be very challenging. And especially when one that just needs a little extra love and support. And so I find myself like, I don't react as much. I'm much more just present when I'm with them.

when I'm playing with them, I'm really all about creating experiences for them. Like we're always doing stuff like that, or just, you know, that I don't think that we would do necessarily if I was still drinking. And I also, there's just this comfort in knowing that like, if anything ever happens, any time of day, like I could drive them to the hospital and I'll be there for them, you know? And then also just helping them get through all the things in life that they're going through, you know? And it could be hard. So I feel like I'm just better that way.

But I mean, there's so many benefits. get alcohol free, like sleep, skin, just my health in general. And I just feel genuine like happiness now. Like, and I don't think I ever felt that before. I felt like I was always just kind of numbed out and just kind of foggy and just, well, I say that a lot. I just felt like, ilck like, I just didn't really feel like I had anything really exciting and look forward to, which I did. just.

didn't see it through all the alcohol, right? The haze. So I would say it's probably just finding that joy for sure. Yeah.

Jenn (27:26)
And your program has confidence in it, isn't it? Isn't one of your coaching programs?

Jaime (27:31)
Yeah, so I have an eight week program that's called confidently sober. So we're going to have a company sober fall program. So it's an eight week program. So it's like really about identifying your alcohol free identity. We work through things like limiting beliefs, imposter syndrome, sleep, stress management, all this kind of good stuff. And then just like kind of the basic, obviously how to manage triggers and cravings and things like that. But I have five daily sparkles. So they're my habits. So it's like exercise every day.

Do something for your mind, like some mindset moment, like reading, listen to a podcast, journal, celebrate one win for the day, do one act of self care a day and then exercise. So it's kind of like, and in my programs too, like, it's not perfection, we just want to make progress. So for me, it's like small, small changes really transition into big results. So that's kind of what it's about. Yeah.

So my next one starts next month, so I'm very excited.

Jenn (28:29)
Be nice. And if people want to work with you, where do they find you?

Jaime (28:34)
Yeah, so you can go to ⁓ my website, website that is amazinglyalcoholfree.com or at Instagram, I'm at amazinglyalcoholfree.

Jenn (28:45)
And you do one-on-one coaching as well.

Jaime (28:47)
I do, I do one-on-one coaching and group coaching. I'm also doing a sober pop-up series with another sober coach called, her name is Allie Clark from Sober Dream Team. So we're actually doing a series of workshops. So one in September, October, November, December, and it's, ⁓ there are 90 minutes on a Saturday morning and it's about finding your purpose, kind of mindset reset, boundaries during the holidays. It's called, it's a wonderful time for boundaries.

I love that one. And then we're also doing a kind of 2025 kind of reflection, 2026 kind of like vision. But with this, we're doing like vision boarding as well. So it's really great. So that's also there's links on my Instagram as well, the website, if you want to check that

Jenn (29:31)
Love it. Well, anything else? Closing thoughts?

Jaime (29:36)
I mean, I think for me, it's like, just keep going. Removing alcohol from your life is incredibly freaking hard. It's everywhere. It's all around you. Most of us have grown up with it and it's just, it's an addictive substance. So just keep going. Try different things. I don't think it's a one size fits all approach. So do all the different things you can and just keep going. And if you have a slip,

Use it as a data point and just continue on. Because one day I truly believe it will stick, but you just have to keep going. reach out to me anytime for any questions or support. I absolutely love just helping make women's amazingly alcohol-free.