Poultry Pro App Explained: Using Data, Genetics & Technology to Breed Better Birds | Poultry Nerds Podcast

In this episode of the Poultry Nerds Podcast, we’re joined by Brie—agricultural engineering student, software developer, and creator of the Poultry Pro app—to explore how data, genetics, and technology are transforming modern poultry breeding.

Brie shares how her background in agricultural engineering and livestock systems led her from managing endless spreadsheets to building Poultry Pro, a powerful yet easy-to-use platform designed specifically for poultry keepers. Whether you raise backyard chickens, quail, or large breeding flocks, this episode breaks down how tracking the right information can save time, improve results, and increase profitability.

We cover how Poultry Pro helps poultry breeders:

• Track egg production, fertility, hatchability, and feed usage
• Manage individual birds, flocks, pedigrees, and genetic traits
• Monitor health checks and condition scores before problems arise
• Calculate cost per egg, cost per bird, and overall farm profitability
• Export financial data for Schedule F and farm records
• Benchmark performance against real breeder averages

We also discuss the challenges of building agricultural apps, why mobile apps matter for today’s breeders, and how data-driven decision-making leads to stronger, healthier birds.

If you want to stop guessing and start breeding with confidence, this episode is packed with practical insight and real-world poultry knowledge you can apply immediately.

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Join Carey of Show Pro Farm Supply and Jennifer of Bryant's Roost as we delve into chickens and quail (mostly)  to help you enjoy your birds more and worry less. Backyard chicken keeping shouldnt be stressfull, let's get back to the simple days

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And we're alive. We're here with Brie and she is going to tell us today about Poultry Pro. Hi, Bri. Hello. It's been a while. Yes. Because you're fixing to graduate, right? You're almost done. Yes, I am. I've got one semester left if all goes well and at River Falls, and then I'll be. Out of there. What do you have? Like an 8.0 GPA or something? Oh gosh. I don't think any engineer has above a 3.75 in our university, but definitely, yeah. I'm this, the second or third degree? Degree forest. Which one is this? Didn't you get your first like college degree when you were. High school? Not, I took enough college credits to get my college degree, like an associate's degree. But I was going to Michigan Tech and none of'em transferred, so That's awesome. Yeah. It was a lot of experience. Let's just say I learned calculus really good. Went and took it all over again. Times nobody can take, but man, I love this so much. I'm doing it again. Exactly. Nobody can take away your NASA design from your story list. Yeah. So you've done, you've designed for nasa, now you've designed for the USDA and who else important have you designed for, probably some acronym that she can't share with us. Yeah, that's all hush top secret. That's what you're doing in the middle of the night when you say you're out with the pigs and stuff. Yeah. Wow. Congratulations then finally being done. Yeah, I'm excited for it. Are you done? You gonna go get another degree? Nope. I'll be graduating my bachelor's. It'll be agricultural engineering and then the fancy term is me with a focus in mechanized systems and then a second focus in livestock systems. So basically designing equipment for animals and machinery. Ooh. So like me setting up a place to manufacture. Feed and that kind of stuff would be right up your alley. Yep. Like the designing, like the mills and things like that. Absolutely. If I did that, I would be like organized and stuff that, the efficiency would be crazy at that point. Yeah, that's what that's basically what are you, us, I might have to fly you down here for that. She would laugh. System of, I don't know, your back dock pallets and stuff. She'd be like, oh this is so amateur. We don't have grain bins and the fields in Oregon and stuff. We don't, there's, I don't have a grain bin. Could not get away with that. Up here. Yeah, probably not. Yeah, you have to be very creative. He is in Alabama. One day. One day,'cause I'm in Tennessee, right? And so people will come to Tennessee and like the other people, other states and stuff. And one day when I was a teenager, it was somewhere and somebody said something to me and I just looked at'em and I said we do wear shoes. Does that count? My mom was so embarrassed. That would've been hilarious. I was known for the quick witty replies when I was a teenager so Ms. Brainiac has been designing websites and apps and all kinds of stuff yeah. How many do you have now? We have pips and chicks. The auction. Yep. The app, the virtual show. Show. And then poultry Pro. Yeah. So four. Yeah, four of them right now. One other one in the works Really you gonna tell us? Figured out how to go to college and all that stuff too. This is, these are my fun little side projects. Basically a genetics calculator where you'll put pictures in of your birds and it'll tell you what the out, what the outcomes are. And it'll tell you an idea of what the likely genetic breakdown is. And then if you cross birds together, what the birds could look like and what percent you'll get for each one. But that's working. There's a professor at the University of Montana, an extension of there for her biology class that we're helping with. So I want to be like the first trial person. I can make that happen. She's Ooh, I'm gonna need those. So that conversation that we had before the recording started, I'm gonna plug all those things in there. Good deal. So what you guys don't know is I never have claim to understand quell genetics or anything to the extreme right? I can get away with the basics, but I'm forever texting breed pictures like, what is this? What is this? I had this hatch out, but I don't know what it is. Half the time, it's I dunno I don't either whatever. So now I have a extra pen, like a, just the ratios are right and they put out eggs. And so I put those in the hen's choice. Like this really is AZ choice because I got no idea what that's gonna be. This is the choice, not the farmer's choice. Exactly. Luck. I just know luck. I just know how to sex them and I got'em and they're right. It works. It could come out huge. It could come out red purple. It's almost, but it's gonna be great. And it's almost guaranteed to have some sparkly in it because they're all, they've all got some semblance of sparkly. But when your focus is meat and eggs, like who cares? What does color matter? It doesn't, you don't eat the feathers. No. Those are for the pigs. Yes. And they're leaving soon. And I'm so excited. Oh gosh. I could not hate, I hate the pigs. I hate them. Agreed. I agree. I'm waiting till until next month, I think when the processor said they should have all the deer out. And they'll slip in some other stuff before they start on beef again. So yeah, April 7th for me, they're all five. Leaving mine. Don't know that it just got a date, but that Andre son of a gun. Are you getting rid of all of them going on the table? All of them. You the big, the bigger ones. Yep. I've got all of them are going. I've got my three huge ones are going all the babies will stay Yeah. For a little while if they grow up and they become big ones and they're still obnoxious. Yes. But I already have people wanting it. Do you know what mine were doing the other day? I'm standing in the barn, have a piece of foam in my hand, and I'm putting eggs in the foam. And the back. So in my barn, I've got the big doors on both ends, right? And the back big door. It's a 14 foot door and the pigs are back there. And then there's cattle gates across it. So I can open the big door and then the cattle gates keep them out still. They were pushing on the cattle gates so hard. They were separating the seams on my big door. So like I've got my hip and my leg and my shoulder against the door screaming. For somebody to come help me. And he came and got some feed and went and poured the feed like over by the pond bed. That's all it took. And Yes, and then closed the gate. But then I was like they're just gonna push on that gate until they collapsed the corner post. Because they're 500 pounds, they're big pigs. And so we had to move the electric fence. So all I'm trying to do. His box of eggs and it turned into moving pigs. And if you've ever moved pigs, that's not easy. No. They wanted a snack. There's just, and you would not drop'em down. They wanted to catch, they wanted you to drop some quail eggs. I give them quail eggs like almost daily but not yet. Not that day. We, this is terrible. So y'all just closed your ears. But we caught one the other day eating one of my ducks. That sounds about right. I was so mad. So April 7th, gone. Done. Done with the pigs. You have spots, right? The big old spots. Yep. They're nasty. They also look ugly I to break into you, but I just like how they run and they had to make their ears swap so they can see where they're going. That is hilarious to watch. But actually the big one is okay. It's the, but she was raised for a year with the guy down the road. And he would go out every day and pet her and love on her and sit with her and talk to her and her mom and everything. But the babies I got is babies and I just, I'm not a big person. Never had been. Like I avoided those days in college and we were allowed when I was in my senior year, my last semester, I had to take a prac, we called them practicals, where you had to go out on the farm and work for three hours or whatever, and. We were allowed three absences. All three of mine were the big days. I just took them. They were scheduled. Okay, that's a big day. I'm outta here. Lucky I just hate them, but they're so dang useful. And then they stink. That's my worst. They do. They served their purpose. We got them to do the pond. They've done the pond. The pond is great. So now they can go. I figured out a way to get mine to not stink. I did not have to train them to use this corner. Oh. But like they go to a corner and every time it rains, I have found 25 to be the magic number. 25 pounds of lime neutralizes that perfectly. And I'm, it is good, like you don't smell nothing for a while until we have a really hard rain again. Maybe you need to flick it on that lady's land next to you that doesn't like you. So I haven't seen her in a while. I know she's not a fan of the show, but I really have thought about, doing a really low hot wire putting, using like a telephone pole and putting it on my side, and then doing it on the other side, which I own that land over there too. And then stretching string between and then just turning'em loose, letting'em eat all the grass.'cause the lady don't maintain the land for Jack. Oh, and I could put the toney, coons and the goats over there. They would have a feast about midsummer when it was three feet tall. Tall sounds like what? Sheep and cows are good for. Turn a loose and just forget about'em. Like I wanted to buy that land for that purpose. She won't sell it to me. I saw a post this morning. Somebody wants to turn Guinea pigs loose in order to keep the vegetations. Does, how many Guinea pigs is it gonna take to clean up an ac Grab one. I dunno. You could have a, you could have a five sheep do it in about a day and a half Guinea pigs a year. I was gonna say like some sheep or some goats. Yeah. And they'd be in and out quick. But some Guinea pigs. What? I know. Oh, you gonna prevent the birds from just coming to kill or a dog or and it's a Guinea pig. They're gonna put their LGD in there to protect them. It was on social media. Oh gosh. Bless them. Bless, as we say in the south. Bless'em. Yeah. All right, so let's get back to Brie here. So people do everything. So Pips and chicks is still up and you can get your genetics information there. We've got the auction site is back and running and taken. Yeah. Sellers and buyers. Consignors. Consign, is that what you call'em? Consignors? Isn't that the right word? Technical. So you gotta, Hey, we can be bougie. The auction site is now open for all consignors. That's the voice that I gotta use. I gotta make little advertisements now. Yes, to gotta talk really low and close to the microphone. So did either of y'all ever listen to auctioneers? Yep. Yep. So I will listen to that in the background while I'm doing stuff because it will catch my brain's attention and I can focus on whatever I'm doing. Huh. You just have to let that one do. That's because this is what happens when I go to an auction. Exactly. No, I can't go. I'll buy stuff left and right. I want, I might not even know what I'm buying. Yeah, I know, but I thought, man, I could. Do that, become an auctioneer and. That would be cool. You've got the southern accent for it. You talk really slow. It's gonna take a lot of training. Do you know what I, the last auction I went to a walker and an oxygen tank like whatcha doing? And I was like the walkers for the bags, which are fantastic. I'm just saying if you have concrete floors in your barn, you need to. You need a walker with a seat on it, because the feed bags are spectacular on there. Hers has the grips for the breaks, so it don't get away from her. It's hilarious. But she got it down to a science, you gotta admit. It works great. Oh, it's a genius. It's even better than using like a wagon. Because, so we, it, it's got the little brackets around and you just put the bag in there. Lean it up against it. Pull the top off the right height. Yeah. You don't have to bend over. It's fantastic. And there's stacks so high on my. What are those things called? U-boats? For the feed bags are stacked so high on the U-boats. Then I just wheel it right up to the stack and just slide it down. I don't even have to pick up bags. Just slide falls. Okay, so we've got, so we did the auction site and then the virtual show doesn't start till May, right? Correct. We'll start running sponsors probably in the next month or so. But beyond that, like entries won't open until May. Gotcha. And so now we're gonna talk about your newest project, which is the app. Yeah. And I think I have 400 birds loaded on the app. And I'm not technologically, I. I'm challenged in that, look, you've come a long way in the last couple of years. I have figured out Google Docs and Squarespace. I have. Yes. Make it do things that people say it can't do. That's right. Exactly. And that is somebody that's good. Gotten good with technology. Because it'll do anything. You just have to figure it out. But I don't, so well, this is what I need. Brie, look, this is what I need on your app. I go out there and I do the birds, and I put everything in voice memos.'Cause I got my little earbuds in. I assess the birds with the tag number and dah. And it's a voice recording. I need you to be able to take the info out of the voice memos and put it right in the app. Oh gosh. Look, with all the stuff that you've done with it, voice recognition is just a little, just do that. It's like some icing. We do have, we, I did just add I think it was Eli. It was either Eli or Elijah had asked me to put like a journal on there. So there's a journal section now, so you could put voice memos into there. But as far as getting it into the whole data entry thing, ugh. Look, if you can do nasa, this is easy. Yeah. Come on. NASA was structures re you're not getting it here. Like. When you do nasa, you set the bar. Yeah. So we just need you to maintain it. That's it. I'm gonna date myself here because I am old enough technically to be your mother. Yes, definitely.'cause my youngest child, I have kids older than her too. She's like 19. When we were kids, NASA was like. You got to nasa, where'd you go? It's all downhill from there. It was done. The first computer that I built for NASA had a modem that connected to a phone line. Oh my gosh. I just feel stupid with two NASA people here now. Yeah. Carrie's a NASA scientist too. I just built computers for him. I was 19. Hey, I watched him take off. Does that count? Oh, that is so much fun. Exactly. Yeah. Okay, so anyway, so that was my plug for your app. I needed voice recognition where I can just talk to it. The next biggest thing that I've been working on over Christmas break,'cause I have free time now. Which is the most bizarre thing. That is bizarre. But I've been working with a developer and we're working to get it so that it'll be a mobile app on the Google and Apple Play store for both the auctions and poultry. That's nightmare. It's, I didn't realize I, it was gonna be hard. I did not realize how hard until I started. Yeah. And now I'm halfway in. So I, you write a program that does something great and you decide you wanna put it on in an app, on the app store. And it's oh, let's rewrite it in a totally different language. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna date myself again here. So what's the difference in that? And just the little button on my home screen that takes me to your website. The only difference is an app, like about 10 million lines of code. Yep. Yep. Okay. So why? Why do that instead of just. The little icon on my home screen. People are sold and they want their apps. Yep. It's easier for people to search on the app store for poultry and then have it show up than to go onto Google and try and find it, or I don't know the amount of messages. See, I've, I blame it on Amazon. Because everybody's got used to just the click and it's now. And we're spoiled. We have spoiled ourselves as a society with technology. And I love it and eat it well. So is that something you can just knock out over winter break? Nah, let's put it this way. I'm about over the next 10 years, 35,000 lines of code into this thing for one of them, and it's about half done, but it's That's good. Yeah. The hardest part is they need to sync up. So I can't just write an app. That does this, because that would be too easy. It's gotta be an app that connects to the web, to a database. Yeah. So all the information is on the web and then you can pull it onto the app. And if you put information on the app, it's gotta talk back to the web platform. Two different languages trying to come together. And then also like just getting all of that to transfer right. And getting it through Google Play Store. Google Play Store and Apple Play Store, both have two different code not code requirements. They both use React to Native but two different standards and they go through and they've gotta test everything and it's a hullabaloo. Wow. Can you just ask chat, TPT? Can it just tell you how to do it? Oh, I wish. Chat GPT is actually really good at writing code. It's really bad at realizing its own mistakes. I was gonna say, you can write the code, it just probably ain't gonna work worth the crap. Oh God. Yeah. I'm working on Zapier now, and I'm gonna tell you that the. The AI on Zapier is so polite. It told me last night, I'm sorry, but this isn't just gonna work, Jennifer, so can we change it over to this? Would that be okay? And I was like, why? Yes, again, why don't you go ahead and do that for me. Did it offer you some fries? That sounds like Chick-fil-A right there. He was. It's I need to give him a name. I guess I've named George's, Che, GBT. I haven't named Zapier yet but yes, they're very polite. Yeah. I gotta tell mine to get to the point, because I always sit. This probably sounds bad, but I sit in class with chat GPT open, so then whenever my professor like says something and my mind goes into like really weird questions that are totally off topic, I'll ask chat GPT. And then it always gives me some really long, like pretty answer and I'm like, that's. Just, you don't need to compliment me, just gimme the answer. You can tell him to do that. Yeah, I do all the time. Okay. I'm forever telling mine to condense it down to I think I told that 150 words the other day and he did. I don't have time to read three screens, so I just tell to do 150 words. Okay. So just outta curiosity, how long does it take to write 35,000 lines of code? A long time. There's a lot of framework in place, so there's a lot of stuff I can copy and paste from the regular one and like the web app version and then just tweak things here and there. There's a lot of other apps out there that are open source and open code that I can pull things from as well, so it's not like I have to sit and hard write it. My goal is to have. Like the basic one for at least the auction site up and running by like middle of February. Whether it'll be on the app store by then, probably not, but that's the goal. We'll see. It sounds easy Once, once school starts back, you won't have very much time. Yeah. We'll see, I've got less credits. I'm only at 18 credits this semester. I was at way more than that last semester. So eighteen's manageable. Yeah. Yeah. You could do that while you're asleep and then work on your code. While you're in class? Yeah. Oh, we won't go on to how much I was working in class on that class stuff. Okay so let's actually tell people why they need your app. Why is it useful? Yeah. So probably should start with why I created the app. Okay. There. For anyone that does like chicken things in general and likes to keep track of their information or their data that was me. I kept track of like egg, like how many eggs birds would lay feed as I got into more on the quail side and then on things like that. I kept track of feed cap, track of weights and things like that. I always had IDs for my birds, names for them and like when I'd get them, when I'd sell them. And at one point when I came to Man Valley Farm, I think I had it was somewhere like 10 spreadsheets with all of this information. And it was a lot and it was a pain. And we were redoing the UW fs poultry barn set up. And I tried introducing my boss to these 10 spreadsheets and he looked me dead in the eyes and he is Brianna. You can program, what are you doing here? Can we not? And yeah, so I made it into an app and it basically. I took everything that UWRF wanted. I took everything that I thought was important and things that I used in my research trials. Things like a things like eggs that I'm getting out, feed consumption. It'll tell you your, like your water ratios. It'll flag it if things are if all of a sudden your birds go from laying. 30 eggs a day to 20 eggs a day, you get a health check on there. You can do health checks, which is a big thing that I think a lot of poultry breeders don't do. Things like condition scores which is huge in animals like cattle and pigs. But I never hear about condition scores and poultry until I started working with the humane handling. Institute that we have at River Falls and just little things like that. And I had, obviously I'd seen other software before. We've used other software for different animals and all of it seems really clunky, right? I used the flock star for a little bit and it just. It was hard one because it didn't have all the information I wanted to have, and two, because it wasn't very user friendly. So I made the app to be as simple and as easy as possible. We've got 15 different file markers that all can use it pretty much like without any training. You just log in. If there's big buttons at the top that say you log your eggs, log your feed, you put your flocks and your birds in, and you get your reports out. And then since then it's grown. I built the poultry index so breeders can upload their stats on there. And you can choose whether to opt in or opt out. And if you opt out, obviously it's your data, so we never have control over it. Like at any point you can say, I want out of the program, and all of your data's removed from it. But you can benchmark it against the average. So the goal is eventually we'll have enough readers in it. And you can display your name, or you don't have to, but it says this is what the average is. So for Terex, I think we had about a thousand some birds in there. We had a growth pattern. And you can see where your birds were sitting on relative to that growth pattern. In your age, you could see like your egg production, whether it was higher or lower, your fertility, your hatch ability and all of like your metrics, you can compare against the average from. Actual breeders, not just big name hatcheries that that are keeping everything under very tight conditions. You could see it what it's like from people that have anywhere from five birds to, to 5,000 and in between. So that's been where it's gone and where it's still going. We're still getting more breeders into the index and more breeders using Poultry Pro just about on the daily. Can you put in like a family tree type thing for the birds? Yeah, absolutely. So when you go in and you add your birds, you can add birds like one at a time, or if you've got like a hundred birds or you just hatch out a batch of them, you can batch entry a whole bunch of them and you can choose the dam and the sire if you have them on your farm, and it'll actually populate the whole spreadsheet for you. It'll tell you, it'll show you a pedigree. You can put in genetic traits. Genetic traits will show up on that pedigree. It'll tell you inbreeding coefficients. If you're someone who does a lot of line breeding or sibling matches, or father's son or spiral breeding you can figure out how inbred your birds are, and then you can see whether that's impacting your fertility or your different gene traits when you go down and you can plug genes into there too. So I can see where like somebody like me that's getting pretty tight, like on the Orpingtons, but if somebody was just getting started with Burge, why would all of this stuff be important? Personally, I think that doing this in the beginning would be, it may not be important to the person at that time, but if they ever plan on breeding, it will save them hours and hours. Sorting through notepads from the barn, notes on their phone, text messages that they sent somebody, like sorting through all that junk. They would already have it in here because like you can do family and then individual bird, or no, they, it is called a flock. You can establish a flock, add birds to it. Put in all their ID number, all that crap, even their name. And then it, it keeps up with everything for you. Yeah, I would say it's almost idiot proof, but being an educator myself, I know that's a stretch. I sent it to some of my cousins. One of my cousins, he is he was like 13 I think when I sent it to him, and he was able to figure it out and keeps track of his birds on it religiously. So he grew up on computers. He need to send it to people like me. I'll say the very first person I sent it to was you guys. So I am in it right now. And if my boss can use it, who hates computers with an absolute passion I think just about everyone can use it. Yeah. I do have 400 birds in it, I will say, but I was still in the transferring the information from voice memos to it. That was gonna be my winter project, and then I could move forward for spring breeding is what I was gonna use it for. Yeah, I don't count eggs. I don't care how many I get because there's counting eggs and then there's counting like usable eggs. So yeah, I don't know. It didn't matter to me. Will it figure out like if you're making money or not? Yep. There's a whole finances section on there. It'll not only won it tell you, your price per egg, price per bird price to raise out your bird. It'll tell you where you're spending the most money in there. And then it'll also tell you where you're bringing in the most money. So any, there's super easy buttons on there. Anytime you buy something, you can. Upload it on there and fill out your expenses. And same thing when you sell something you can put in your customer if you want, or you can just say, this is what I sold and this is how much question, how much does it go into helping you say with filing a, like getting all the data together for a Schedule F. A schedule F. Okay. So if you have a farm. You track all your finances and you fill out a Schedule F oh. For the IRS, there's a option on there that to export everything, so you can go back and you can export it. I think I'm still working on a spreadsheet, but it will give you a PDF of it and it'll give you your summary and you can choose nice, whether you want week, month, year on there. And then you can also choose like for a specific flock for your whole farm. You can export all of that and it'll give you the nice, you can print it, you can save it. See, I like the fact that, you can have chickens for free eggs or cheap eggs because they're like$14 a dozen and you tell that story to your spouse and I'm not going to condone being dishonest, but you tell that story to your spouse. And they don't see the feed bill. So yeah. But you can actually log in and look at the finances section and decide whether you're gonna really enjoy that egg sandwich or you're gonna sell that egg. And the biggest one for me was plugged in the numbers and it told me the price per egg. And there was a point where I was over a dollar an egg for just what I was bringing in a month. And it's okay, how many places can I go where I can sell eating eggs for over a dollar an egg? And the answer's not many Publix. Yeah, we don't have those near us. Really. We have quick trips. Quick. I like the qt. If you ever get Publix, you need to go to Publix because you can just go in there and everybody's nice to you. That's the quick trip. That is true. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's like going to Chick-fil-A. Just everybody's nice to you. You don't have those either, do you? North? That's just how people are up north. Oh, baloney. I don't, maybe not Chicago. We don't go the cities. But I gotta say she, there's a lot of truth to what she says because, I go to Pennsylvania a couple times a year and I'm up there. Go to town, eat out, drive down the interstate, and it's like people let you get over instead of you, you just punching it and go. And then, coming back through here, it seems like on the interstate when I crossed Kentucky and hit Tennessee right around where Rebecca lives, because she's on the very north. Eastern Park and that's the interstate that I come down to get home. But it's like coming outta Kentucky and I hit Tennessee. It's back to get outta my way to get over instead of, oh, I see you coming up behind me and I'm going the speed limit in the fast lane, so I'm just gonna be nice and get over. Yeah, once you hit that point, they don't do that anymore. You gotta get in the slow lane to go around somebody in the fast lane. Listen, it used to be like that here. And then people from everywhere moved here. We won't get, it's too cold up here forever. Everyone to move here. Yeah, exactly. And technically she's in the Midwest. Yeah. Last time I went up the East coast, somebody tried to steal my dog. Oh gosh. Oh yeah. You get shot for that. Okay. All right, so tell us about how much this app costs. Is it expensive? It's free, so you throw with that, got it. Check it out for free. The ba, the baseline is free, so you can have, I think it's at 15 birds and one flock for free. Oh, shoot, my computer's gonna die. So you get, you can get like the basic features and stuff for free. And then if you wanna go into like the specifics, like you want really big reports or you wanna upload like pictures for your birds or things like that. The basic plan starts at$5 a month. And then the premium comes down to, or is with everything. So you get reports, you get health reports, you get the pedigrees and everything like that. That's$10 a month. And then there's discounts if you buy yearly as well. And see with the premium, it's, we tried to keep affordable. You're limited to 1 million flocks. If you look at the site, if anyone's going over that, they can send me a message. I was like, how many zeros is that? I put no limit because it crashed the system. So I just put as many zeros and look. If somebody has more than 999,999,999 birds. They can let me know and I'll up that list. Just change the line of code. Alright we'll wrap this up by saying that Brie is part of Quail Mania also and she is bringing out her. I was gonna say inner nerd, but you just ooze nerd. And I mean that with love, but when I saw the title, I was like, oh man that's nerdy using statistics in breeding, that's what it said. Using statistic to breed. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, I took statistics in college. I promise it's not, I promise it's not that in depth. Okay. Alright, so if you guys are all nerdy, we do get nerd. You want more Brie nerdiness, then come to Quail Mania and she'll explain statistics to us and how to use those for birch. And the all access pass, you're giving a discount on the app for that, right? Yep. Percent. How long is the discount Good for? Yep. Anywhere from a month to a year. So if I subscribe, I get 15% off of my annual plan. I think it was several months. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So visit quail mania.com for that. But if you don't like us and you just wanna see Brie, that's Pips and Chicks, right? All righty. We'll be back next week. See y'all.