Episode 056: A Better Way to Treat Cancer: Integrative & Non-Toxic Approaches

Discover a holistic approach to cancer care with Dr. Michael Karlfeldt. Learn how integrative medicine, metabolic health, and non-toxic therapies can support prevention, healing, and whole-body wellness.

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Dr. Michael Karlfeldt is a board-certified naturopath and expert in integrative medicine with over 30 years of experience. He is the founder of the Karlfeldt Center in Boise, Idaho, where he specializes in non-toxic, regenerative therapies that address the root causes of disease, particularly cancer. Dr. Karlfeldt is also a speaker, author, and host of several health-focused podcasts dedicated to advancing holistic healing.

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00:00 Introduction to Cellular Needs and Cancer Development

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (00:00): Cancer doesn't just happen, it's a process and it takes a long time usually for it to start to manifest. And so what happens is that the cells, they have certain needs in order to be able to stay healthy and to, you know, function optimally, to detoxify, to repair and all of that. So it has certain nutritional needs. And then also at the same time, we need to clean out those cells, make sure that we get rid of metabolic waste and also obviously of chemicals and things that we're exposed to in the environment, in our home, what we eat. So all of these things then is what's putting stress on the cell. And so the goal is both, you know, if we want to prevent cancer or if you're addressing cancer, we want to make sure that the cellular health is optimized.

Sylvie Beljanski (00:53): Welcome to the Beljanski Cancer Talk Show where integrative science and holistic healing come together. I am Sylvie Beljanski and in each episode we explore nutrition, lifestyle, mental health and research-backed approaches to support the whole person through cancer and chronic diseases. Hello and welcome to this new edition of the Beljanski Cancer Talk Show. Today my guest is Dr. Michael Karlfeldt.

01:22 Meet Dr. Michael Karlfeldt: Expert in Integrative Medicine

Sylvie Beljanski (01:22): Dr. Karlfeldt is a board-certified naturopath and leading expert in integrative medicine with over 30 years of experience. As a founder of the Karlfeldt Center in Boise, Idaho, he specializes in treating the root causes of disease and empowering the body's natural ability to heal with a particular focus on cancer care. A sought-after speaker, author, and educator. Dr. Karlfeldt has hosted multiple TV and radio shows, including Healthmade Radio and currently leads several internationally recognized podcasts, such as Integrative Cancer and Lyme Solutions and The Dr. K Show. His bestselling book, A Better Way to Treat Cancer, fails as his mission to increase awareness of natural and effecting healing approaches. Welcome Dr. Karlfeldt to the show. And thank you for joining me today.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (02:25): Well, Sylvie, it's always such a pleasure. Anytime I get to spend a little time with you, that day is always better. So this is my joy.

Sylvie Beljanski (02:34): Come on.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (02:36): Yeah.

Sylvie Beljanski (02:37): But you know, since, I mean, you have met you and I think that's already five or six years ago, I said to myself, one day I have to come to Idaho and visit your center. And some time ago I saw also an email explaining what you were doing in the anti-aging medicine. I said, that's for me, I have to go. But it is, I mean, I didn't find the time to make it to Idaho, but you are one of my dreams.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (03:13): Well, you just have to do vacation time here. I know when you run your own business, then that's hard, but you got to take a little break.

Sylvie Beljanski (03:24): But I really look forward to the day where I will be able to join your center. But you seem to do so many things in your center. I mean, ranging from this anti-aging thing that really caught my attention to cancer, because of cancer that I got to know you and what you are bringing to the world of integrative medicine. Can you first, I mean, the range is so wide of things that you are offering. Can you tell us a little bit more about the center and everything you are covering and why is it so, I mean, why all those specialties are actually working together?

04:09 Overview of the Karlfeldt Center and Its Holistic Approach

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (04:09): Well, and yeah, I started when I started, it was back in '87, you know, the clinical practice. And so you start kind of, you start small and you see patients in a room and then you suggest supplements and diet. But then as I was seeing how health issues became more complex with more stressors that we have around us, I just started to build gradually what I saw that there was a need and bring in then the machines and the therapies and technologies that's needed to be able to address these needs that patients were having. And cancer is, both you and I are very, very passionate about that just because the options are very limited for people going through traditional oncology.

And integrative oncology, where we then also bring in natural therapies, really evolved a lot during the last number of decades. And there's so many really amazing tools that are coming out.

05:32 Cancer as a Spectrum and the Importance of Prevention

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (05:32): But cancer essentially is a spectrum. It's not like you're healthy one day and you had cancer the next. It is a process. And so, you know, to me, it is important then to take advantage of even prior to diagnosis to really optimize your health. So that's why I also, in addition to focusing on the integrative oncology, I also do a lot of regenerative medicine and preventative medicine. And yes, we have a lot also to, you know, for the skin, you know, we have devices to help to build up the muscles and the face, you know, without creating frowns and wrinkles, but to build them up and then also tighten skin using non-toxic. Also to help the build muscles and burn fat and all these, those are metabolic dysfunctions. And we know that cancer is a metabolic disease. Yeah. So if we can utilize these tools prior to a diagnosis, to me, that is much more optimum. And then also maybe run labs to check, you know, for mold, for chemicals, for pathogens, to work on our emotional wellbeing, to do all of that even before diagnosis would be even better. Obviously, if you're diagnosed and you really need to do it, but even before, I think that that's really powerful.

So we brought in devices also for our emotional wellbeing, like microcurrent therapy. We have something called Examine, which is an advanced form of transcranial magnetic stimulation. We have theta chamber that puts an individual in theta state using vestibular motion by Arnold Beats and kind of certain light into your eyes. And then also cerebral electrostimulation. We do EVOX, which is listening to your voice and incongruence in your frequency in your voice to hear what are some of the emotions and traumas that we can then unravel just through the frequency in your voice.

And then to look at your heart rate variability. So we have a very advanced form of checking, see where's the nervous system at and how's that impacting your brain, your mitochondria, your inflammation, your hormones, neurotransmitters, all of that. And then live blood cell analysis, you know, take a little drop of blood, put it under microscope and see how your blood is behaving. And obviously in pathogens there. Are we seeing inflammatory patterns? Are you digesting your food? How's the tissue integrity? How active is your immune system? So we have all of these different things that we brought together into one space. That's my goal is to be able to, you know, people come and they just need whatever they need. They can come and get them. We can provide it. And our focus is non-toxic.

Our focus is regenerative, restorative. So we don't do chemo. We don't do toxic chemicals or things. We just do things that are there to increase the intelligence in the body, that innate wisdom that we have to support our wellbeing. So we have a 17,000 square foot facility here in Boise and for anyone that's looking to just, you know, have a retreat and enjoy just feeling better, detoxify, heal emotions, regenerate. We do stem cells, we do exosomes, we do peptides, we do hormones, we do you name it, then we probably do it.

Sylvie Beljanski (08:53): Sounds like a heavenly approach to prevention and everybody should do that.

07:23 Advanced Technologies for Brain and Cellular Health

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (09:02): I agree. I was just telling you before we got on that I just had my Weber laser helmet on. It's a true laser that just came out. So see if we can make myself smarter. And obviously nobody wants to mention Alzheimer's. So this becomes an additional tool just for your brain function, mitochondrial activity in your brain.

Sylvie Beljanski (09:25): You said nobody wants to mention Alzheimer, but you think it could help with memory? Have you experienced yourself something?

10:04 Using Laser and Light Therapy for Brain Optimization

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (09:36): Absolutely. I mean, so just sitting still, we're using about 30% of all our energy is used for our brain. So there's a lot of the mitochondrial activity in the brain is very, very important. So as we get older, then the energy production in the brain decreases. So anything we can do and then with that, then more toxins accumulate, more inflammation in the brain and more infections are going there.

So if we can then utilize these type of technologies, you know, like these red laser helmet, you know, it's called Weber brain that actually then helps to turn on the mitochondria. We're delivering like three Watts of energy into the brain and that will then turn on the mitochondria. It will help to reduce inflammation. It will activate the immune system to clear off infections. And, and then you can combine that with, you know, a photosensitizer, let's say methylene blue, which is fairly readily available. And the methylene blue will then stain cancer cells and stain different viruses and pathogens that may be up in the brain. Then when we use that laser light, then we're triggering oxidation of those, these pathogens. So, and there's been a huge amount of research in regards to...

You know, one, infections correlating with Alzheimer's, dementia and Parkinson's and all of that, even Lyme, fungus, you know, different viruses, cytomegalovirus is a common one. But also just the light in itself and how that revitalizes brain activity and neural activity in the brain. So, you know, to me, having something like this or having access to something like this can be phenomenal, you know, for your brain health. And we... Nobody out there wants to have longevity without, you know, wants to have lifespan without brain span. You know, because yes, I mean, I want to live long time, but I want to be aware that I'm there alive and be able to communicate with the people around me.

Sylvie Beljanski (11:38): Absolutely. And everybody is speaking of the increased number of cancer around us, but there is also an epidemic of Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia. And there is much less noise about that, but it is real and it is really frightening. You were mentioning these things that you put on your head like a helmet. Is it a assume? I mean... just doing a retreat at your place is not good enough. Are people able to purchase this kind of thing and continue at home?

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (12:13): Absolutely. I mean, this kind of a device is a little pricier. It runs actually about $15,000. You know, this device. So for some people that's within their budget, but there are a lot of great different devices out there that can be really helpful. Obviously using laser is quite different than using LED. LED then light will kind of scatter a little bit all over the place and it won't have as deep penetration. Laser will just, that's when all the light is kind of in one band and they're all focused in one direction versus running all over the place. Kind of liken it to seven year olds playing soccer. They all run all over the place and there's no organization versus a professional soccer team where everything is just organized. And it's the same thing with laser. And so, yeah, so this will, and then you have these little fingers, you know, in it that will help to kind of navigate the hair in your scalp because.

Sylvie Beljanski (13:14): And you have a head massage at the same time.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (13:17): It should, I should actually tell them to do that so you can kind of massage while you're getting the light. Yeah. So let me, let me see if I can turn it on because it'd be kind of interesting for you just to see, see it. So let's see here. So can I kind of see how.

Sylvie Beljanski (13:36): Yeah, yeah, absolutely. No, I see very.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (13:38): Yeah, so see kind of the red laser light in here. Yeah.

Sylvie Beljanski (13:44): Impossible. Keep that for how long do you have to keep that on your head?

13:50 Practical Use of Laser Devices at Home

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (13:50): So it depends, usually like half an hour is a good amount of time. I start with 10 minutes because anytime you turn on energy anywhere, there's going to be detoxification and killing and all these things. And you need to be able to clear that. And so it is good to start a little bit slower, you know, to help to, you know, so you don't get overwhelmed by maybe too much going on and too many changes in your brain too quickly.

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Sylvie Beljanski (15:38): So let's say I am sold, I want to find some time to come to your place and to have one of those retreats. You mentioned the word retreat. So how long is the retreat and what would be the average program for a little lady like me?

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (15:59): A young, beautiful, gorgeous lady like yourself.

Sylvie Beljanski (16:03): It's a little old lady, let's say how it is.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (16:08): I would say, I mean, in a week we can do a lot, but in two weeks, then we can really work on both kind of the brain health. We can work, you know, aesthetically, we can work on building up the pelvis, the floor. We can work on kind of strengthening different muscles, build up bones, can use peptide IVs, intravenous laser therapy to also turn on mitochondria, different other nutrients.

We can even bring in exosomes, can use exosome or peptides or PRP into your face, into hair. So we can create a whole program that becomes very personalized on the individual's need. And in addition to that, you know, we have, you know, a phenomenal, it's a trifecta redbed that has a lot, a lot of power to help to revitalize every cell. We got hyperbaric, we have hocket, we have flowpresso to move the lymphatic, clean that out. So it's, we can really personalize it to you depending on an individual's need. But if you're coming here a week, we can do a lot. Two weeks, we can do even more. Yeah. So it's, it's, it's a phenomenal, yeah, it'd be phenomenal for anyone just to want to do anti-aging, longevity, health span, brain span, lifespan, all of these things.

Sylvie Beljanski (17:31): So it starts with, I assume, a personalized consultation about your needs and your wants.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (17:37): Yes. Exactly. Then we can, so essentially just give us a call here at the Karlfeldt Center and schedule an appointment and we can set up a protocol for you.

Sylvie Beljanski (17:52): Sounds great. You have to give us the phone number after that, send us a call. You have to put the phone number in the chat so everybody can have access to it. When you speak at conferences, I mean, you mostly speak about cancer also and addressing it as a metabolic conditions and addressing the terrain...

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (18:04): with that.

Sylvie Beljanski (18:20): All that has to do with, I mean, helps with anti-aging, but also is even more important when we speak about cancer. How do you, those integrative therapies can shift the metabolic conditions that allow cancer to thrive?

18:38 Supporting Metabolic Health to Prevent Cancer

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (18:38): Yeah. And that's the thing is that, like I mentioned, cancer doesn't just happen. It's a process and it takes a long time usually for it to start to manifest. And so what happens is that the cells, they have certain needs in order to be able to stay healthy and to, you know, function optimally, to detoxify, to repair and all of that. So it has certain nutritional needs.

And then also at the same time, we need to clean out those cells, make sure that we get rid of metabolic waste and also obviously of chemicals and things that we're exposed to in the environment, in our home, what we eat. So all of these things then is what's putting stress on the cell. And so the goal is both, you know, if we want to prevent cancer or if you're addressing cancer, we want to make sure that the cellular health is optimized.

It's almost like a cellular retraining that you need to do where you're shifting it from a certain behavior to a healthier behavior. And so when toxins start to accumulate, when nutrients or oxygen is not getting to the cell, it's recognizing that if I continue in this direction, I'm not going to survive. It's kind of like an individual that all of a sudden they don't have any income. They, you know, maybe... You know, they have all these expenses that are still there so they can kind of see that, you know, and then this rate, I'm not going to be able to keep my house. I'm not going to be able to feed my family. I'm not going to be able to do what I need to do. And so they may then start to consider activities that may not be legal. That may not be healthy, you know, for the society and the cancer cell kind of starts doing the same way. It goes more into an older type of programming, a survival mechanism that existed even prior to we had, you know, the mitochondria that is essentially a bacteria that our cells got infected by long time ago. And so our cells then start to kind of kick into a survival type of mode and the mitochondria actually signal to the genome, your DNA, you know, saying that, Hey, we're not doing too well here.

21:57 The Warburg Effect and Mitochondrial Support in Cancer

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (20:58): And we need to now shift our behavior. So the cell then start to shift producing energy without the need of the mitochondria. And that way it's also becomes immortal because the mitochondria holds a cell death switch. So that way it actually can live forever and then start to then ferment glucose and ferment different substances to produce energy. This is what's known as the Warburg effect.

Yeah, Dr. Warburg, I got the Nobel prize for recognizing this. So what we are wanting when we're looking then at somebody that is addressing cancer, obviously we want this process to take place in as few cells as possible. So we really want to make sure that we support the mitochondrial activity in all the healthy cells. And if we also can activate the mitochondria within the cancer cell, using different strategies, you know, blocking how it's gaining energy through the fermentation process and then driving energy through the mitochondria. We are then able then to either do one or two things. You know, one, if the cell is viable, you know, maybe it's just slightly dysfunctional, then the mitochondria will then help to repair the genome, your DNA, so that it has healthy signaling. If it is beyond repair, then the mitochondria will then send signal to your genome saying that it's time to flip the switch and let's move on and let's die. So supporting mitochondrial activity becomes a really powerful tool when addressing cancer because it's not that only this cancer has this process versus another. It becomes, you don't have to be cancer specific, I mean, cancer type specific. It actually impacts all types of cancer in some form.

Sylvie Beljanski (22:57): Yeah, I mean, that's what my late father, Dr. Mirko Beljanski, was already speaking about, addressing the difference between cancer cells and healthy cells, the structure of the DNA. And it doesn't really matter where the cancer is located. If it is a male, a female, or what organ, it just going to the... It was going to the way those cancer cells function and preventing them to grow and multiply.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (23:32): And that is what the beauty with what your father was finding over the decades of research that he was doing is that, you know, looking at the genetic structure and being able to find substances that are able to target that altered structure that exists within cancer cells. And it doesn't matter. And I know that you are doing a tremendous amount, you know, there's a lot of money going into research proving exactly what your father was seeing and looking at the breast cancer, prostate cancer, brain cancer, pancreatic, colorectal, and seeing by addressing, by bringing in substances that are able to target these dysfunctional structures, DNA structures that exist in cancer cells, it doesn't matter what type it is because the structure, the behavior is similar.

24:48 Addressing Cancer with Natural and Targeted Therapies

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Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (26:02): Well, so it's not that I'm against chemotherapy or against immunotherapy and the different therapies. It's just that I feel that they are not the whole solution. And I know there are a lot of great friends, they use, you know, IPT like insulin potentiation therapy, which is a lower dose of chemo and then using insulin to open up the cancer cells, you know, to form more chemo. So it's a more effective delivery of chemo. My desire is essentially that I want to find out what can I do to address cancer without having to use toxic substances. That is my desire. Because I feel that there's some kind of dysfunction within the body outside of, and we've learned a lot, but I know we are yet to learn much more. And so it's almost like if I jump to chemo too quickly, then I'm losing the ability to learn a lot more because yes, chemo and radiation is always going to shrink tumors, but is it addressing cancer? You know, that becomes the challenge. You know, because cancer is a systemic disease, tumors are localized and we equate, you know, being successful with, you know, watching these tumors shrinking. And it is so much more than that because we can do chemo and we can shrink a tumor.

But our terrain is worse off after, our immune system is worse off after, cancer stem cells are more active after. So yes, we shrunk the tumor, but we are now set up for an even harder battle because we have less resources and the cancer cells, cancer stem cells are still there.

Sylvie Beljanski (27:50): Yeah, that's a problem with conventional medicine. The doctor only looks at the tumor and they forget to look at the rest of the person and they shrink the tumor and they are just happy with that or they remove the tumor surgically and they say you are done.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (28:07): I've seen, I mean, it's a good friend of my wife's that she's known for 30 years. You know, she was under the impression that she, and she was cervical cancer and she was under the impression that she needed to do the chemo and all of that. And then after that come to me and after, you know, address it on a holistic way. And so, you know, she did the chemo and yes, the tumor shrunk, but lo and behold, you know, her body was just completely ravaged.

And, you know, with no immune system, no ability, severe pain, not able to eat much. So her fortitude to be able to handle kind of the next wave of what the cancer was going to do was very challenged. And so she's essentially now in a place where, you know, chemo's not working anymore because, you know, whatever cancer cells that were left, they figured out how to navigate these toxic chemicals. But now she has... No, I mean, nutritionally she is, she's on her way out.

Sylvie Beljanski (29:08): What are the biomarkers or clinical indicators you look for at your clinic when treating somebody with cancer?

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (29:17): Yeah, so I do like to look at circulating tumor cells. I think that that is very valuable. And it is important for people to understand that there's no be all end all marker. You do have to look at kind of the picture of the individual. And so there are a number of different labs that are good to look at. I do like to look at the inflammatory markers like the C-reactive protein, ferritin, fibrinogen, sedrate. You know, so I do like to look at those.

Again, they can be perfect and a person can still be dealing with cancer. So again, they're not a be all end all, but looking at it as many markers as possible give us the opportunity to kind of catch and see how the body is behaving, how it's responding. Then I like to look at the immune system function. So you have just simple look at the neutrophil, your lymphocytes, your monocytes.

I'll see how they're behaving. Frequently what I see with cancer patients, that lymphocyte numbers start to decrease. And then if you get below one, your absolute lymphocyte number, then it becomes a little bit more challenging for you. And there are certain ratios that you want to add, like the neutrophil to lymphocyte, usually it's good to be around two to one. And then the lymphocyte to monocyte ratio.

And you'll do this by looking at the absolute numbers you can create these ratios. So the lymphocyte to monocyte ratio, you essentially want to have that as almost as high as you can. Because what I, the studies I've done, the people that are diagnosed with cancer, if there are at least about three in that ratio, taking lymphocyte divided by monocyte, you have a much better chance of survival. And then there's another marker that, you know, for, that I say for healthy individuals, if you're at least 4.25, you're in a great spot, you know, looking at, looking at that picture. And then obviously, you know, we don't want an individual to become anemic, you know, so you look at your hemoglobin and see how that's doing. Also a powerful tool is a, at Cyrex Labs, they do something that's called lymphocyte map. And that will tell us a lot how the different components of the immune system, how they're working, how your CD4, your CD8, your TH1, TH2, you know, TH17. So all of these are different components of the immune system. And then we can see how, what kind of behavior that the cancer is trying to use to manipulate the immune system and how it's stuck in a kind of faulted pattern. And that gives us an understanding as to, we'll see maybe that the TH2 is upregulated based on, you know, in relationship to TH1. And then we know that, we can bring in these natural strategies to help to correct, you know, these dysfunction. So using these different tools, you can really learn a lot. And then obviously I love looking at, you know, what are, what's the terrain we're looking at? Are we looking at heavy metals, chemicals? You know, what's the gut looking at, you know. Do we have enough good bacteria or other parasites or fungus? Are we dealing with mold? How's our mitochondrial activity? So all of these are different labs that are out there that we can learn these different things to know what are the underlying costs of this cancer. Because cancer doesn't just happen in a vacuum. There's always a driver. There's always a reason. And so if we can identify that and address that.

33:34 Comprehensive, Personalized Cancer Protocols

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (32:55): Along with supporting the immune system, working on the metabolic aspect, going after the faulty genetic structure of the cancer, using natural targeted oxidative type of therapies like vitamin C, artesunate, ozone, or photodynamic therapy. By doing that in combination and obviously working on your emotional wellbeing and energetic structure and all of that. Cancer is a complex disease and with that you need then a comprehensive protocol to address it from all these different aspects. And each individual is obviously unique, two people dealing with the same type of breast cancer, can have two completely different reasons. And so we need to identify and see what those reasons are.

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35:38 Addressing Skepticism Around Integrative Oncology

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (35:38): Well, and I think that that suspicion is becoming less and less. Obviously oncologists, traditional oncologists are still going to be quite married to the techniques and the solutions that they have. And they're always going to say that, you know, well, there aren't enough research to support this or that. You know, what we do is evidence-based and so they're always going to come with that argument. In reality though, the different therapies that we do offer in the integrative space. There's a tremendous amount of research behind that. Just looking at the research you're doing on the Oncobel Pro, it's a tremendous amount. It's, even though it may not be a hundred million dollar or whatever study that's needed to bring out the new chemo agent onto the market, it is still a very, very good study to prove what it's doing. And looking at, you know, a substance like curcumin, for instance. I mean, if you go onto PubMed, type in curcumin and cancer, you're going to see studies and research articles. I mean, it's going to be in the many, many thousands. So to say that it does not have research behind it, you know, integrative therapies is completely false. Yes, it may not be at the same hundred million dollar type of studies, but nobody's gonna make a hundred million dollars on curcumin. It's just because it's a natural substance and nobody can patent it. So nobody's gonna put that amount of money in, but it doesn't mean that there's no research. There's lots of research. And I think people are understanding that more, seeing that more oncologists are, I think they are accepting that.

People feel that there is more to their cancer journey than just traditional oncology care. Because if traditional oncology care was everything that they say it is, then nobody would want to kind of look elsewhere. You know, if everyone got cured, everyone get, you know, then why even look anywhere else? But that's not the case. And that's why there's such hunger and thirst for therapies and things that can be done may be congruent with traditional oncology and some people choose to do it without traditional oncology.

Sylvie Beljanski (38:08): You have written a book with Dr. Desaunier about breast cancer and what you are saying about the need of the patient to feel heard and seen, which is not offered very often by conventional doctors. I think it applies more, especially to women with breast cancer because they often tend to be less heard by society or more hurt by some emotional torment that leads to the disease. So I think this is really, really a population that needs to know about you and what you are doing and about your book. Can you show it to us if you have it?

38:55 Supporting Women with Breast Cancer: Emotional and Natural Therapies

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (38:55): Yeah. This, yeah, had the honor of co-writing this with Dr. Veronique Desaunier. She was the, she started something called Breast Cancer Conqueror, and it was based upon twice she was diagnosed with breast cancer.

Sylvie Beljanski (39:10): As a patient and as a doctor, was, I mean, so, so interesting.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (39:17): Yeah. So, so she started Breast Cancer Conqueror and that is a coaching program. Yeah. Where you have coaches that specialize in guiding women through their breast cancer journey to optimize the result, utilizing the principles that, that Dr. V, you know, that worked in her journey and they've helped thousands and thousands of people, you know, on their breast cancer journey. So I decided Dr. V was... You know, she'd been working so hard in this organization and at some point some people want to retire. And so she wanted to retire and I didn't want to see this amazing organization she's built, you know, her legacy. I didn't want that to go to waste. So I essentially took it over and in that juncture of me taking it over, we decided then to write a book that there's been a great need for. She has prior books that she's written and these are just natural therapies, you know, to address breast cancer. But there's so many people that are also bringing in traditional oncology into their journey. And so we needed to make sure that we created a book that would guide them through that process, you know, what to do in preparation for surgery and post-surgery, what to do, you know, with the most common chemo agents, what natural therapies would be good to work as an adjunct to actually enhance the effect of that specific chemo agent and mitigate a lot of the risks and how to address radiations and should I do hormone therapy or not hormone therapy? All these different questions that a breast cancer patient is navigating. And you're absolutely right. I mean, the women dealing with breast cancer tends to be the ones that are less heard because we know Women are phenomenal at taking care of everybody else and not recognizing their need, you know, that they need to be nurtured. They need to be loved and taken care of. And so because of that, they frequently actually develop and they see that one of the cancer personalities is exactly that, the caretaker, the one that forgets himself and want to be there helping everybody else. So this book, I ended up number one on Amazon and it's a phenomenal book and I'm really proud of it. It came out last year.

Sylvie Beljanski (41:45): You are a great man and a great doctor, Dr. Karlfeldt. Thank you. Thank you for everything you are doing. Thank you. We look very much forward having you at the Beljanski Integrative Cancer Conference in June and you were in San Diego. And I think, I mean, you will have, I don't know what you are going to speak about, about your helmet and what's the future of integrative medicine or breast cancer, but I know that whatever you decide to advise is going to be extremely interesting.

42:17 Join the Upcoming Beljanski Integrative Cancer Conference

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (42:17): Well, thank you. And I look forward to that conference and I, for all the listeners, this would be the third conference. And I'm saying that the first one was amazing. Second one, even more amazing. This third one, I can't even imagine how great it's going to be. The speakers, you have rock stars that are kind of leaders in the integrative cancer space addressing research that's being done. So for all listeners out there, if... I would highly, highly recommend going to the conference in June in San Diego. So I'm so honored to get to be part of it again.

Sylvie Beljanski (42:56): Thank you so very much, Dr. Karlfeldt. And we look forward to having you there.

Dr. Michael Karlfeldt (43:02): Thank you so much, Sylvie.

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