Episode 058: Beyond the Physical: A Multidimensional Approach to Healing and Cancer Care

In this episode of The Beljanski Cancer Talk Show, Dr. Christine Schaffner shares her integrative and multidimensional model of healing, which expands beyond traditional physical medicine. She introduces the concept of "terrain medicine," where health is shaped by physical, emotional, energetic, and environmental layers.

The conversation explores how she evaluates patients using a combination of clinical assessment, bioresonance, muscle testing, and environmental analysis. Her treatments may include physical detox and lymphatic support, trauma-informed therapies, coherence practices, and energetic balancing approaches.

Dr. Schaffner also reflects on her personal healing journey through brain tumor surgery, where she combined conventional treatment with meditation, visualization, and energetic practices.

The episode emphasizes the importance of addressing hidden contributors to illness and restoring the body's natural regulatory intelligence through a holistic, patient-centered approach.

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About the Guest:

Dr. Christine Schaffner is a naturopathic physician with over 16 years of experience treating complex chronic illness. She specializes in bioregulatory medicine and integrative approaches that bridge physical, emotional, and energetic systems of health. Her work focuses on supporting the body's natural intelligence through personalized, multi-layered assessments and treatments that address both visible and hidden factors affecting health and healing.

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00:00 Introduction to Cosmic and Galactic Influences on Health
Dr. Christine Schaffner (00:00): You know, we're learning more and more how the planets influence us. I'm studying medical astrology right now, and there are these galactic and cosmic rhythms that influence us. I don't know if you watch Stephen Burns YouTube, but he talks all the time about what's happening in space and how that's affecting Earth. And in my early career, I had patients that told me that they were influenced by solar flares. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

But now we understand, Roland McCready taught me how the plasma from the sun can affect the magnetic field lines of Mother Earth and that can affect our energetic system.

00:25 Dr. Christine Schaffner's Background and Journey into Holistic Medicine
Sylvie Beljanski (00:38): Welcome to the Beljanski Cancer Talk Show where integrative science and holistic healing come together. I am Sylvie Beljanski and in each episode we explore nutrition, lifestyle, mental health and research-backed approaches to support the whole person through cancer and chronic diseases. Hello and welcome to this new edition of the Beljanski Cancer Talk Show and today I have the pleasure to welcome Dr. Christine Schaffner.

Dr. Christine Schaffner is a naturopathic physician with over 16 years of experience treating complex, chronic, and multisystem illness. She bridges bioregulatory medicine with principles of biophysics. Those principles help support the multidimensional human addressing nervous system dysregulation, immune imbalance, chronic infections, and environmental illness through a whole system approach. Her clinical work integrates advanced generative therapies with bio resonance and precision muscle testing to assess regulatory coherence across the body. She is known for listening deeply, working with compassion, and guiding patients who have not improved with conventional or standard functional approaches.

At the heart of her work is a belief that healing is not only about removing stressors, but restoring regulation and helping patients reconnect with their own inner navigation system, building resilience, clarity, and long-term vitality from within. Dr. Schaffner, welcome to the show.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (02:27): So nice to see you again, Sylvie. It's always a pleasure to connect with you.

02:30 Core Principles of Bioregulatory and Multi-Dimensional Medicine
Sylvie Beljanski (02:30): Thank you so much. So I like to ask, how did you get there? You did not grow up thinking you would have a different approach and you would come up with a multi-dimensional new way to see patients. How did you get there? What's telling you about your journey?

Dr. Christine Schaffner (02:53): Thank you. Yeah, I definitely, if you asked me when I was like seven, if this is what I would be doing, I probably knew a little bit of this, but not to the depth that my work has taken me. But I grew up in medicine. My father's actually an oncologist. My mother is a nurse and she was in education. so.

I was always around medicine. I always loved the sciences. I would say when I was in my teenage years, I gravitated at that time bookstores where they had, you know, a lot of sections on science and spirituality. And I remember just from a young age, just asking deeper questions and the why. I'm a Sagittarius and I think we're all about truth and spirituality and science. And really my path has led to really weaving these philosophies and these sciences. And so I took a windy road, but I, you know, stood my ground and became a naturopath rather than a medical doctor. I went to Bastyr University in Seattle, and that really gave me not only the depth of the science that I needed, but I explored all these different modalities. And so I knew when I was at school that I didn't want to just do like green allopathy where I just give like a pill for this, pill, like instead of a pill, a supplement, right? I didn't want to just do that.

And I had a really memorable moment where Dr. Louisa Williams came to my school and she did a brown bag lunch and she wrote the book, Radical Medicine. So she kind of wrote the textbook of the time for bioregulatory medicine. And I just resonated so deeply with her conversation and she, remember to this day, she says, what's the first thing that you do with each patient and we're like, diet, gluten, all of these things. And she said, no, you look in their mouth. And that really inspired me. And so I would just take that book around. It was before Kindle and I would just take that thousand page book around. Through osmosis, I ended up reading the whole thing at one point, but I...

04:36 Inspirations from Radical Medicine and Mentors in Bioregulatory Medicine
Dr. Christine Schaffner (04:55): was really inspired, an opportunity to have really great mentors. I had mentors in bioregulatory medicine, which is a form of medicine that came out of Switzerland, Austria, and Germany. And it bridges so many philosophies, but at the core, it's all about that, you know, we don't have to fix anything. You know, the body is wise and intelligent, and it's up to us to be detectives to understand what's dampening that intelligence, what's interfering that intelligence.

And it gave me a lot of tools. Every patient I see, I still go back to, you know, my bioregulatory roots because they helped me get momentum, especially with patients with chronic illness. And so I started my practice and I, you know, I've been practicing 16 years through mentors and so much study. And ultimately my patients teach me. I think we don't set out to become specialists in cancer or chronic illness, but we see that our patients need this, you know, this philosophy, this framework, these tools, these therapies, because I don't know about you, Sylvie, but I think people are just getting sicker, more complex, and it stretches us. yeah, that's the very, you know, cliff note version of how I am, you know, how I got here today. And again, I'm very inspired by my patients and I have turned to physics and quantum biology and quantum physics and know, spirituality to deepen my own personal experience.

06:19 Personal Healing Journey and the Power of Energy Work I've also been on a healing journey. Like many people that you've talked to, I had a benign brain tumor in 2022, but it was large enough that I had to have search because it was going to give me a stroke or kill me if we didn't find it. And that was a long journey, but I was inspired at the time of the work of Dr. Joe Dispenza and I didn't, I know I had to do conventional work to get surgery in order to move beyond this, but I was able to pair that with, you know, lot of the things we'll talk about today. So I only had two weeks to prepare for the surgery. So I really leaned into this idea. When you change matter with matter, takes time, but when you change the field, you change matter. And that's what Joe says. And so I did a lot of energy healing, a lot of meditation.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (07:10): was in that moment where I can really observe the outcome that I want in this experience. Sometimes we don't understand why things happen in our life. We can make up all these assumptions, but there's mystery. But we can choose how we move through things. That gave me a strength in my commitment to what I share today. And I had validation from my neurosurgeon where he said to me on my follow-up, he told me when he looked at the pathology report that my tumor was very different and he was going to study my tumor for a long time because he said that I want to know why it came out so easily. And that was a lot of the meditations, the energy work, the visualizations, and he does like 400 of these a year. So that was to me like, okay, yes, I had to go through surgery.

I don't exactly, I could make up a slew of things of why this happened, but again, I'd chosen that moment, how I wanted to move through that, and it mattered. So I feel really passionate about empowering people and inspiring them to do the same in their life.

Sylvie Beljanski (08:18): Absolutely. This is an amazing story and thank you for sharing. There are a number of physicians now, especially in the realm of cancer, who speaking of the terrain. Discussion of the importance of the terrain is going back to Pasteur and Brescia in France in the 19th century. So it is not new, but what you are bringing is this notion of multi-dimensional terrain and what does it mean and how is it different from the traditional just root cause model.

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Dr. Christine Schaffner (10:10): Yes. thank you. And again, I'm always evolving my philosophy and my framework based on my experience and what patients share with me. And part of bioregulatory medicine with what I was trained in is, you know, terrain theory. You know, it's completely opposite from germ theory. And we focus a lot on the extracellular matrix, which is really important for the health of the cell and the mitochondria and to help us have optimal genetic expression. And so what I have evolved this, we are very much physical beings living on this planet and I don't ignore our physicality at all. It's a lot of what I'm doing in the treatment room, but my questions are kind of as I really explored these ideas that were inspired by me, by the statement, when you change the field, you change matter and what that really looks like.

10:35 Understanding the Body’s Electromagnetic and Emotional Nature And so I have studied a lot about this and I explored in my own practice, but how I've laid it out and I'm sure it will evolve, you know, over the years. But I think about that we're of course beyond our physical body. And a lot of us talk about that nature and we might talk about the biofield or we might talk about the unified field, but I'm really, you know, like, okay, how does this all work? And so at my current understanding, I talk about our physicality, which is a lot about our regulatory systems, our autonomic nervous system, our extracellular matrix, our lymphatics, our organs of elimination, a lot of what we're treating people in our clinics. And then we know that we're electromagnetic, right? Conventional medicine knows that. We very much know that in terrain theory as well. talk about voltage and pH. We talk about heart coherence and brain coherence and the connection between the heart and the brain and our electromagnetic nature. And we know that we are full of charges moving through conductors and we create electromagnetism in our body. So we have this, you know, electromagnetic nature. And then I share that we have our emotional nature. We are very much human, living a human experience and we have emotions that we carry from past experiences, current experiences.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (12:25): And those emotions can get stored in our limbic system or in our organs and our tissues. They can get stored in our field and they can just as much as a toxicant or an infection dampen our intelligence of healing. And that can be a roadblock. And so a lot of healing is excavating and bringing into our awareness, our emotional terrain. And it's a very big part, I think, of the healing journey.

We also have this ancestral kind of epigenetic nature. It's been studied, especially with survivors of the Holocaust, that there can be, you know, when a family member from a, you know, up to third generation that has even passed, if there's unresolved or very traumatic experiences, it can create a ripple effect in our epigenome. And, you know, there are wonderful tools to bring awareness to that and even change that, which is really incredible. So we can really influence our epigenetics by liberating and bringing awareness to our ancestral trauma. You know, we weren't created in a vacuum. We have a lot of people who came before us, before us that created our life.

13:15 Epigenetics, Ancestral Trauma, and the Crystalline Architecture I call this layer because it is multifaceted. I call it the crystalline architecture. So we can look at fascia very much as a structural component, but we can also look at what I call the living matrix from Dr. James Oshman's work, that we have this beautiful connection between our skin and to the nucleus of our cell that doesn't just create a structural fabric, but it's actually a communication network. And this is the network where electricity runs, where bio photons communicate, where energy medicine works, right? We're influencing this whole body wide system. This could be our acupuncture system. May Wan Ho found that, you know, our acupuncture meridians are within the fascial, you know, fabric. And so it's this other lens of communication that happens in our crystalline architecture.

14:33 The Biofield, Plasma, and the Holographic Universe
Dr. Christine Schaffner (14:33): And then I kind of talk about the biofield and plasma. So I love the work of Beverly Rubik and Eileen McCusick. They inspired me to look at the biofield and we're still learning about the biofield. We talk about it. It's our electromagnetic nature, but there's also this idea that it's our plasma nature. And the plasma is the fourth state of matter and it influences what comes from, you know, maybe the higher fields, that kind of density, and it's kind of a bridge between the outer ether and into our 3D body. And so it can store information. It can definitely shift and change and influence our physical body. And we have plasma in our body as well. We have plasma in our blood. We have plasma in our CSF, which is our craniosacral fluid and our cerebral spinal fluid. We have plasma in the fourth phase of water that's throughout our body. So it's this idea that we are plasma beams.

And we have a plasma biofield. It is a connection between where we come from and also this other part of us. Plasma is full of these ionized gases. It's a charge separation, which creates a lot of energy and it creates matter. It creates life. And when it's distorted, we can have distortions in our physical body. And then I also talk about, this is something that I'm still noodling on. There was a book called The Holographic Universe. And it's talking about that we are, you know, greedy holograms from a larger energy source. So Joe talks a lot about this too, that when we want to change our, you know, operating system and change our physicality, we have to go upstream, you know, where is there interference in our source code, right? And that's takes us, you know, depending on your belief system, Mana.

16:03 Interconnection of Space, Time, and the Cosmic Universe
Dr. Christine Schaffner (16:29): spiritual journey. And then there's two more that I talk about. I love the work of Naseem Harriman and the unified field theory and also Tesla's Einstein's ether philosophy. I think we're all interconnected, know, in space time, outside of space time, within our bodies, you and I are interconnected, you know, I know you're across the country and I'm here and we live in an interconnected universe. And we also live in this cosmic. Yeah. And we live in this cosmic universe too. You know, we're learning more and more how the planets influence us.

17:27 Planetary and Solar Influences on Human Energetics I'm studying medical astrology right now, and there are these galactic and cosmic rhythms that influence us. I don't know if you watch Stephen Burns' YouTube, but he talks all the time about what's happening in space and how that's affecting Earth. In my early career, I had patients that told me that they were influenced by solar flares, and I'm like, what are you talking about? But now we understand. Roland McCready taught me how You know, the plasma from the sun can affect the magnetic field lines of Mother Earth and that can affect our energetic system. And people are more more tuned into that.

17:57 The Soul and Higher Power in Healing And then lastly, you know, kind of where I landed is our soul. You know, again, no matter what you believe in, you know, there's this timeless internal essence of who we are. I call it, you know, the divine, you know, people call it source, God, whatever you believe in. We come from a higher power. That's my belief system. And we are, you know, this part of us that when I'm no longer Christine, will, you know, last and become something different and we are eternal. And I think a lot of our journey, especially when we're on a healing journey, is to explore these different layers. And why I share that is because healing is not linear. All of us know that, you know, we want to think we get a diagnosis, we do a treatment, we're better. It's not like that. It is a windy journey and I think the more that you can embrace that you're on this journey and accept it, you can really learn a lot about who you are and where you're going. And also I think ultimately we're here to explore and have a, you know, a really strong connection to our higher self, our soul, source, whatever you believe in, which is a guiding, benevolent, unconditionally love.

18:52 Embracing the Non-Linear, Windy Journey of Healing
Dr. Christine Schaffner (18:52): source of information that can help us through these times. Earth is always going to be a school. It's always going to be full of challenges. It's always going to be full of, you know, decisions and dilemmas. And if we can really trust our inner navigation system, especially in a time where truth is very confusing and with AI and, you know, all the things, you know, we really have to get good at knowing what is truth for us and what is not truth. And so that's very much where I am right now, Sylvie, with my understanding, but I'm sure it will change. Ask me next year. You know, I'm sure I'll have a whole different understanding, but that's really what I have observed and studied and what I think healing is about.

Sylvie Beljanski (19:38): So, I mean, this is fascinating, but practically for patients coming to your practice, how do you assess and treat the terrain for them? How do you help practically?

19:53 Practical Assessment and Treatment of the Terrain
Dr. Christine Schaffner (19:53): Absolutely. I see patients in person in telemedicine and I kind of have my framework where in the beginning I very much put my doctor hat on, right? I listen to their history, I look at their labs, I'm in the physical body. And throughout the clinical history though, I'm hearing a lot about them, right? Where their wounds are, where their traumas are, where they're stuck in their body. Right. And that gives me also, especially if, you know, someone comes in and says, my mom had Hashimoto's and my grandmother had Hashimoto's and you know, that gives me information. Okay. Like there's work to do on, you know, the ancestral level. So I take that clinical history in the labs. I also use bio resonance. So I use two different bio resonance scans and I also a muscle test. I muscle test in a way that I am always looking at where is the priority. Right. Because we can all read about healing in a book, but when it gets down to our own body, there is a unique blueprint and a unique unfolding that we have to listen to the body to help with. A treatment plan in my world could look like, you know, lymphatic drainage and binders and liver support, going to a biological dentist, you know, getting your mold in your home tested, but also, you know, do you need to go see an EMDR therapist?

Do you need to do somatic therapy? Should we bring in family constellation? What are you doing at home for your electric terrain? What is your EMF exposures taining? Are you creating time to listen? And again, it's very different for every patient, but I'm tuning in to all of those layers and working with them all the time. so... Again, it's not all the things that I said are not linear or a hierarchy, but they're all interwoven and they're all affecting each other. again, there's so many ways to create high frequency, high vibration water. There's ways to work with the subtle energies in the body. There's a lot of modalities that can, a lot of my patients are all over the country. I...

22:08 Integrative and Remote Approaches to Healing
Dr. Christine Schaffner (22:08): often tune into kind of who's their healing team at home. And it's often someone who works on the physical structure and the electromagnetic structure. Somebody works on the emotional body. Often, you know, I recommend IVs that can look across dimensions, right? From just a glutathione IV to, you know, Weber, right? We use intravenous biophotonic light therapy, right, to help the body. We're always assessing and tuning in. And I'm not only using that in my approach, but also I'm listening from the bio resonance devices that work with resonant frequencies to see prioritization and also with muscle testing to see where the priorities lie. So, and there's a lot of art in medicine, you know, there's a depth of science, but I always have this experience where I think I know where I'm going and then, you know, my intuition or the patient's intuition or these therapies give me another angle that I would have missed if I wasn't listening or open to receiving that information.

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Dr. Christine Schaffner (24:47): Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I love seeing people in person, you I always do. But, you know, in this day and age and since COVID, we really had to stretch ourselves, right, to understand that energy, you know, traverses and we are entangled beyond our location, right? And so I, the bio resonance technology I use can tune into people wherever they are. I've learned to muscle test remotely, which took me a little bit to you'd really trust, but it really does work. So I really love that. And then in person, I work, you know, I just moved to Boise, Idaho. So I do have an office here. I have a good friend, Suchita Margeron, who has a clinic in the Bay Area, who has basically Ibu and Weber, and she just got Dr. Elias' aphoresis machine that, you know, we see patients together there. I kind of travel and I see patients, you know, at my friend's clinics at this point while I'm setting up in Boise. But in person, I love doing hands-on muscle testing. I also do a technique called neural therapy that I would say works on the electromagnetic and emotional layer. Also maybe the plasma water layer. We inject scars, we inject different segmental patterns. You can inject ganglion, we can inject areas of pain and inflammation, and this helps to reset the autonomic nervous system in the fascia. And it's really great with the communication in the body. so, and people store emotion in their tissues and that can very much be released and liberated. And that allows the body to have this, you know, a lot of people feel lighter or more present and they feel better in their bodies. So I do that. And then if I'm at Soutina's, we integrate IV work. We also integrate, depending on the therapists that are there, we integrate those therapies as well. But I love in-person, but I very much have learned I can see people from my home office and get them results just by working.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (26:58): different locations, which is good for this day and age.

27:31 Addressing the Needs of Patients in the Cancer Journey
Sylvie Beljanski (27:03): It sounds fantastic, but we have to recognize that there are some people, especially those who are listening to us, who are already in their cancer journey and feel that they're doing everything already. They're doing everything that the doctor is recommending and yet they do not get any better. What are we missing? How can we, can you help those people and make a difference.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (27:33): Yeah.

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28:53 Science-Backed Resources and Community Support for Cancer Care
Dr. Christine Schaffner (28:53): You know, and that's, you know, a lot of the people I see, right? And they're also awesome doctors and we're all, none of us are a hundred percent are perfect, right? And we all have our blind spots. And so if you're not getting better, we always have to reevaluate the treatment, right? Are you doing the best treatment at the right time for you?

29:20 Reevaluating and Optimizing Cancer Treatment Strategies And then often the things that are missed, you could have dental infections or toxicants in the mouth. You could be living in mold. You could have scar interference, you could also have trauma or emotional stagnation where you really need to look at your healing as not just a physical experience, but looking at getting support on really letting go of what might be still stuck in your system. I would also look at your EMF environment in your home. I would encourage you to meditate and have a practice where You really get in states of heart-brain coherence, which are states when the heart is in a coherent rhythm pattern that entrains the brain.

30:14 The Power of Visualization, Connection, and Inner Guidance And from that state, we are more powerful, we're more receptive, and we can sometimes get information that helps us align with the healing journey or seeing what was missing. You can get that guidance from within, and you can also visualize yourself getting better. You know, when I was going through my surgery, I did all of these things, but I also did a lot of visualization of every part of my experience and the outcome I wanted to see. Also, I would say, I haven't talked about this, I guess it's not exactly part of the framework, but it's important is connection, right? We are meant to live in connection and community, you know, so, you know, illness can be very isolating. So How can you make an effort to go and lift your spirit up and connect? And then with the ancestral stuff that the best way I know other than maybe some really advanced homeopathics is family constellation therapy. And they're wonderfully trained family constellation therapists. They can work one-on-one or in a group setting. That can help really bring awareness to any trauma that you're still carrying from a past generation.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (31:07): That can affect, you know, your epigenetics. I mean, it's wild, but it can. And then I would say, you know, just really, you know, feel empowered. You know, there's something in quantum physics called the observer effect. You know, we choose what we observe. You know, again, there's mystery in life and there's uncertainty, of course. I'm not saying that life is, you know, a smooth path, but, you know, choose to be the observer of your highest timeline of healing and be open and receptive to finding the answers that maybe you haven't or being led to the person or the people that you need to be led with. And yeah, just remain open and trusted that you are on your healing journey. Yeah, I hear you and I know it can be frustrating, but don't lose hope. We're meant to be hopeful and inspired people. And when we lose that, you know, our whole system on all these levels really gets impacted. So, I hope that helps.

32:08 Upcoming Conference and the Future of Multi-Dimensional Healing
Sylvie Beljanski (32:08): I love those words of wisdom. Yeah. Absolutely. So you are going to join us in San Diego this summer, June 26 to 29 in San Diego. And we are very much looking forward to having you and to discuss in person those matters. am sure this is going to add a multi-dimensional.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (32:11): Thanks.

Sylvie Beljanski (32:37): approach to an audience which is very much looking for solutions for cancer. And this is going to be really the opportunity to have you able to, I mean, I feel what is important with this event is also to give the opportunity to people to connect with a number of practitioners and hear directly from them what is really resonating resonating with them and who they want to continue to work with, know, to heal for this journey. And I'm very grateful that you have accepted to join us in San Diego.

Dr. Christine Schaffner (33:23): Thank you so much, Sylvie. I was so honored to be re-invited and we had a great time last year in Austin and I am so looking forward to San Diego. And I just love the venue and really the buffet of information that you give people. We, you know, cross like the very technical research to, you know, talking about things that I'm talking about here. And there's a wonderful exhibitors who are always sharing the latest cutting edge treatments and therapies and also things that you could bring at home. And it's just a very approachable and wonderful community. And everyone is there for the right reasons and has a lot of integrity. you know, so many people, you know, need help right now who are struggling with a cancer diagnosis. And we're so, you know, on the cutting edge of, you know, creating this new paradigm together. And Sylvie has really brought all of these wonderful people together to do that. So I'm really honored to be part of it and I'm looking forward to San Diego.

Sylvie Beljanski (34:23): Thank you. Thank you so much. And we look forward to having you. Thank you so much, Dr. Schaffner. I think this was very illuminating and bringing a new dimension, actually, to the healing journey.

34:39 Closing Remarks and Resources for Further Support
Dr. Christine Schaffner (34:39): Thank you. Thank you so much, Sylvie.

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