Ep 98: Angry, Stuck, or Agitated? Spring Reset With Dreena Burton

Fascia might be the most overlooked system in your body, and it affects everything.

In this mini-episode, Dreena Burton joins Lauren Bernick to explain how fascia supports movement, connects every system, and why keeping it healthy is key to feeling strong and mobile.

They also explore Chinese medicine’s take on seasonal health, including why spring is a critical time to reset your body through movement and food.

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Lauren Bernick (00:01.364)
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My friend, I'm so happy I can say my friend now, Drina Burton. She's known for her whole food plant-based cookbooks, including Drina's Kind Kitchen. But most recently, she's been known for her work with Fesha. You can find her information at drinaburton.com. Please welcome Drina. Hi. Hello. I know. I know, I'm really happy we get to chat. So.

Dreena Burton (01:41.208)
Hi Lauren, I love that we're having a good chat again. Thank you for having me.

Come.

Lauren Bernick (01:50.397)
I wanna just start really with a very basic question, like what is fascia so we can kind of get a good idea. Maybe some people have never heard of it before.

Dreena Burton (02:01.74)
Yeah, yeah. And it's because for a long time, you know, anyone who has studied anatomy or even when we learn about...

a little bit of anatomy in school. We didn't learn about it. We learned about muscles and bones and for a very long time, even in the anatomy lab, fascia was the material that was discarded to look at the bones and the muscles. And there's a long history and story about, you know, why this happens in anatomy. But basically, it is the most foundational tissue in our bodies. And it is the tissue that begins as we are forming an embryo. Once that

of life begins and the embryo is forming, that is the first tissue that forms and everything forms within it. So we kind of think like, the bones form and then this forms, no, the fascia forms and everything is actually a variation of the tissues in the body or different variations of fascia in the body. Like this is the base material, so to speak, and it houses all of our systems. So when we think about

our nervous system, our reproductive system, endocrine system, cardiovascular, lymphatic system. It's like the house of everything. It holds, it embodies all of those systems.

It has, you know, sometimes been called the connective tissue. That's sort of like the base description of fascia, except that it's, when we say connective tissue, it makes it sound like we need to connect things in our bodies. When they were never disconnected, we began whole and formed in the fascia. So in our, you know, ways of thinking, we tend to think of the body very linear and like the bones and the joints, like we're little machines. You know, we treat our bodies.

Dreena Burton (03:54.664)
as machines too, you know? That's a whole topic of discussion, but we're not, we are this beautiful wholeness and the fascia is what is keeping everything together. So again, a lot of us think the bones and the muscles hold us together. They don't, it's the fascia. If you took the bones and muscles and all of the other tissues out of our bodies, you would see your form. It's like your fascia ghost. And...

Lauren Bernick (03:55.892)
Yeah.

Dreena Burton (04:22.978)
When you see someone walking down the street and you kind of recognize who it is or you see a form and a figure and you're like, I think I know that person. That's because of their fashion. It holds their life story. Yeah.

Lauren Bernick (04:32.89)
my gosh, that's crazy. But it looks like, does it look like a gooey spider web? What does it look like? Yeah, is that what it is kind of?

Dreena Burton (04:41.038)
different.

sort of layers of fascia in the body, even though it's all connected, there's different layers. And so some of it is much like a spider web, right? That beautiful 3D matrix that we think of, of a spider web, this spindly kind of fascia. But then in areas where it needs more structure, it's much more collagenous. So it's more structured. So the IT band area, for instance, which gives us a lot of stability in that area of the body, it's much

Lauren Bernick (04:51.283)
Mm-hmm.

Dreena Burton (05:13.296)
denser like striated form fascia. And so we can think of it as I like to think of it as like a 3D webbing really and it needs to glide and slide and it lives from everywhere from right under the skin right to the bone and penetrates the bones. So it goes from the most superficial to the deepest. So our organs are wrapped in fascia, our muscles are wrapped in fascia, but also our nerves and the

fibers in our muscles. Everything in our body is housed and surrounded and permeated, impregnated by fascia. So it's truly everything that we are is fundamentally fascia. It holds our life story so it forms us but we also form it in how we move.

our activities, what we've done in the past, some of our traumas, but our joys as well. So it's really this beautiful, intelligent tissue that also communicates everything in the body, right? So when we talk about the lymphatic system, for instance, and that's a bit of a hot topic right now, people are talking about lymphatic drainage. The lymphatic system needs the fascia to be healthy for lymphatic drainage. It's housed in the fascia.

Lauren Bernick (06:28.862)
Mm-hmm.

Dreena Burton (06:37.05)
And fascia is piezoelectric, so it sends electric currents. You know, we talk about grounding and we go to the grass and get our feet in the grass to get grounded. Well, that's the fascia communicating that DC current in the body. And...

like with acupuncture where we know they're stimulating energy currents in the body. Those meridians have been shown to traverse in the fascia. like there's the fascia is this space in between that allows that energy communication to take place. So it's doing a whole lot in our bodies. It's communicating, it's protecting, it's...

separating but also consolidating and connecting and is really our sixth sense but really our primary sense because it's the first tissue. So we think of it as our proprioception that know spidey sense that we have our fascia but in a way it's really our first sense because it is the first tissue.

Lauren Bernick (07:41.78)
That's really very cool. I'm really fascinated by this. And you said meridians. I want to talk about that because first of all, I don't know, how'd you get schooled in Chinese medicine so well? How did you learn about this? And also tell us what the meridians are.

Dreena Burton (07:48.813)
well

Dreena Burton (07:58.35)
Yeah, you know, it came out of my food work, right? So being involved in recipe development and foods, I started to just get intrigued about, you know, how we're eating. I think I mentioned to you in some of our communications that when I go into fall and winter, I'd really like almost resist moving into fall. I did not like it. I'm a summer girl. I love the warmth. I yeah, yeah. And I hang on to the summer. Hang on.

Lauren Bernick (08:23.518)
Same.

Dreena Burton (08:28.384)
to the foods and I noticed that I felt really sluggish, cold in the fall, very low energy and then I came to learn later on that well foods also have energetics so as we move into fall it's really not a great thing to continue to eat those raw salads that we were eating in the summer because it's cold on our spleen and the spleen doesn't like cold foods that it likes to be warmed and nourished and then we don't have dampness in our body and so dampness can

lead to a lot of phlegm and there's just so much wisdom that comes out of Chinese medicine which was discovered thousands of years ago and like wow what I guess they weren't on social media they had time to study.

Lauren Bernick (09:09.598)
They had time. They weren't scrolling.

Dreena Burton (09:13.326)
Exactly. And then of course I did begin my, you know, teaching movement in the yoga world. you know, I teach fashion flow now, but I began as a yoga teacher and I started learning TCM, Chinese medicine, as it applies to yoga. And once you dip into that little well, you just, it just, you have to keep learning. It's a very cyclical kind of knowledge base where you can keep coming back to it and learning more. So I've been studying different places, like just picking

Lauren Bernick (09:40.436)
Mm-hmm.

Dreena Burton (09:43.352)
up courses here and there and studying and doing my own studying at home as well and it just continues. It's beautiful. So the meridians are our energy flow in the body and again when we're forming the little embryo is growing out and so you can think that organs are forming and we have this

primordial bladder system on the back body which relates to all of the organs and it's collecting and filtering as the embryo is forming. And so then the little limbs are growing out and as they're growing out they're growing out in the fascial planes that house the organs. So as the heart has developed and the arms are growing out and there's meridians that are associated with the lungs, the hearts, the heart part in me, the paracordia.

all in the arms because they're moving out in those fascial planes. And so then later in life, we can see that these meridians are connected to the heart, to the small intestine, to the large intestine, and the arms because of how the embryo was formed. It all goes back to embryology, which Western medicine doesn't really understand a lot about embryology. And this comes from the top anatomy experts in the world who will say most doctors and Western medicine

do not know much about how the embryo forms. can't explain. They can explain a lot about biology and physiology, but how does it organize? How does the embryo self-organize? They don't know. It's because of the intelligence in the body that is just there from conception. So these meridians move in planes and areas. I like to call them fascial rivers in the arms, in the legs, back body over the head, and they all

correspond to our organs. So when we interface with them through movement that is connected to the fascia, because most of our movement doesn't connect to the fascia, then it stimulates that energy flow to the organs. So not only do we improve our fascial health and remove pain and have better mobility, but guess what? We can start improving the functioning of our small intestine or our liver chi. It's amazing. Our bodies are

Dreena Burton (12:08.298)
little miracles.

Lauren Bernick (12:09.576)
Hmm. So right now we're in spring. And can you talk about what what organs are associated with spring and what foods and so forth?

Dreena Burton (12:13.89)
Mmm.

Dreena Burton (12:22.764)
Yeah, the organs of spring, it's the wood element and it's the liver and gallbladder. And so the liver is the yin organ. The yin organs are the ones in the body that have the most functions. So they're considered a little more precious in that sense because they have to do a lot of the work. It's your heart, your liver, your spleen, your lungs. And then the yang organs are the ones that support the yin, but they're kind of like containers that fill in

empty in a sense. like the stomach, the gallbladder, gallbladder stores bile and releases bile, but it supports the liver. And so these are the two organs and the liver is associated with growth and expansion and vision, the color green and spring. Yeah, and green and it's like the little sprout coming up. So this is the time of year we come out of winter. I actually think spring is the new year because in the winter,

Lauren Bernick (13:09.374)
That's interesting. Green.

Lauren Bernick (13:20.498)
Mm-hmm.

Dreena Burton (13:21.932)
We're hibernating. We're not meant to be like hitting the gym and doing these hardcore like New Year programs because the body's actually wanting rest in the New Year and this is why we often don't have success with those systems.

Lauren Bernick (13:38.036)
Yeah, we look at what about like bears and animals that hibernate in the winter? Yeah, we put on, you're supposed to put on a few pounds and go to sleep, fluff it up and go to bed.

Dreena Burton (13:42.838)
Yes! Yes!

You asked.

Bluff it up! You actually are your stores. And it's that yin season that then gives us enough recharge to move into the yang season, which is spring. Spring begins the uprising of energy and then summer is the most high in the season of energy. And so we're coming up out of winter and winter has this sluggishness. So the liver energy is stirring and it begins stirring in February actually.

coming up in the body, you start to feel like, okay, I have more energy to do this and that. But sometimes that sluggishness of winter is still there. it's this like, sometimes you can think of it like a stuckness in the body. And so the liver energy can feel stuck. And if it's thwarted or feels stuck, it becomes irritable. So this time of year, you may notice you feel a bit irritable, frustrated, it can manifest into anger.

That's the emotion associated with the liver. So you know someone who's quick to temper, like they're very quick to get sparked. Chinese medicine would say they have some imbalance in the liver. Their liver chi needs to move flowing. Yeah, it wants to move very smoothly. So.

Lauren Bernick (15:04.702)
Really?

Lauren Bernick (15:09.726)
And so what are you supposed to do?

Dreena Burton (15:11.52)
Well, one thing you can do is work with the liver energy through liver flows, right? Doing this movement for fascia flow to work with the liver. But we can also harmonize the body in ways like to nourish the liver or cheese. So one thing, for instance, is the flavor of the liver that the liver loves is sour. So starting your morning with a little bit of lemon juice or apple cider vinegar in warm water.

and drinking that and drinking warm water through the day or even warm hot because that helps clear that stickiness that builds up over winter. So a lot of people love ice water. It's not great for the system just to say my my members hear it all the time. Stop drinking ice water. I'm always chasing.

Lauren Bernick (15:56.405)
What about room temperature water? Is that okay? That's okay.

Dreena Burton (16:00.578)
Yeah, so sour, bringing that sour flavor into your foods. And also this is the time to start eating those tender sprouted greens. So think of sprouts in the spring coming up out of the earth. So microgreens and sprouts, liver loves those, liver loves green. And...

while we might go full force into the salads, like, big, big, huge salad with lots of raw food, you do it gradually, right? We don't just go like boom. And because the body, again, if it's a lot of raw food, it can be hard on the digestive system, especially depending on where you live. Like in my climate, raw food is not easy to contend with. So, you know, more greens in the diet, more sour, and just like slow.

Lauren Bernick (16:45.918)
What are other sour foods?

Dreena Burton (16:48.102)
so sour foods like vinegars and lemon juice and grapefruit, also things like sauerkraut and things that help the digestive toning. So if you think of digestive bitters that some people take those or digestive teas, milk thistle tea, dandelion tea, really good for the liver as well.

Lauren Bernick (17:12.724)
That's funny, I was craving grapefruit the other day and I ate, yeah, I ate a couple of those. They were so good. And also they're in season now. mean, so that's interesting.

Dreena Burton (17:25.228)
You look at what's in season and it's the foods that are good for the body this time of year. Like in the summer, melons are in season and they're so great for the body in the summer, but not in the winter, not a great thing to have in the winter. So we can take these cues from Chinese medicine and just kind of adapt the body and drinking those warm teas, doing maybe dandelion, bringing in the sprouted foods, a little bit of apple cider vinegar before a meal. And the liver doesn't like to be

Lauren Bernick (17:33.492)
I'm sorry.

Dreena Burton (17:55.104)
what's the word, like thwarted in its energy, like it's a smooth flowing energy, it wants to be free and wandering, so even doing things that feel good to you in that way, so like dancing or you know smooth movements and...

going after the things you love to do, because it's your visions and going after your desires and your expansiveness and growth. So doing those things and allowing yourself to do so. It's a lot.

Lauren Bernick (18:20.564)
you

Lauren Bernick (18:25.692)
Yeah, okay. And how do you bring in the wood element? Like how would you incorporate that?

Dreena Burton (18:33.898)
into the wood element is the liver and gallbladder that's what it's called it's the yeah it's it's a phase it's a phase in the year so

Chinese medicine looks at the seasons as phases and they have five. They actually have five, not four. There's a late summer, which is distinct. And I see it now. I never used to, but now I see it. And so the wood element corresponds to spring. And it means the season of this phase with the liver and gallbladder, the expansiveness of energy, the growth, uprising. Yeah.

Lauren Bernick (18:47.73)
Okay.

Lauren Bernick (19:10.118)
Okay, so I was thinking maybe you should try to bring in wood, I mean, maybe it just refers to like, you know, you could think of wood trees like blooming or blossoming. Okay. Okay.

Dreena Burton (19:13.815)
Dreena Burton (19:18.798)
Yes. Yes.

It is exactly that. And in fact, a really nice symbol of the wood element is bamboo because bamboo is very, it has a hollowness. So it has flexibility, but it's deeply, deeply rooted. And that's the gallbladder energy allowing for this deep rooted stability in the body, which then allows the expressiveness of the leaves. So you got it. It's basically like, you know, looking at nature and tree has this rootedness and the leaves are the expressiveness.

that's the liver energy. Going out into nature. Yeah.

Lauren Bernick (19:52.947)
Okay, and so you, yes, going out in nature. So you said that it's the liver and the gallbladder are the organs for spring. Okay, and so typically now, we're, so just so you know, we're gonna have Dreena on like once a month for the next foreseeable future. And we're just gonna go over, you know, these things about what to eat in this season and what exercises for fashion and so forth. So like typically now I would wanna do,

And you can maybe show us something if you want, but like a liver, a gallbladder exercise. But I was just telling Jarena, I wanna talk about this because I'm usually pretty gentle on myself and I don't usually injure myself. But the week before I had been, glands were swollen in my neck, which is like, it hadn't happened to me and probably, it used to happen to me all the time.

but this probably had not happened to me in like 10, 12, no, maybe even 15 years, like probably since I started eating whole food, but my glands were swollen. I felt kind of cruddy, really only for about 48 hours and I just rested and then I felt fine. Then I got up and I was like, I'll do drenas. You have a flow for after you have the flu or a cold. And I did that. And then I did something else and I was doing, what is this one called where you bring your arm back and resist it?

Dreena Burton (21:19.49)
Large intestine, large intestine.

Lauren Bernick (21:20.852)
of that large intestine. Well, I got, I don't know why I did that one so overly aggressively. mean, I could, at the time I was like, I might be doing this too hard. And I was like, okay, meanwhile, I'm thinking I'll take it easy on myself, but I did that one really hard. And then I went to yoga after that. And I was like, I'll just take it easy in yoga. But I didn't.

for some reason, I was thinking, oh, I'm being gentle. Like I took a few extra child poses and I didn't do all the chaturangas, but she said, okay, roll up and down on your spine. And when I did, I was like, oh, my spine's really achy. So I should have stopped, but instead I doubled down and I said, let me do a plow pose where you lift your legs up in the air and throw them behind your head. Cause I was like, maybe I need to stretch my spine.

instead of listening to myself. And I just overly hurt myself. when throughout the day, my back started hurting more and more like between my shoulder blades and my neck and pretty soon I couldn't move my neck. And I was like, what have I done to myself? So I mean,

Dreena Burton (22:34.498)
That's hard. and did it last two, was it a couple of days? Probably lasted a couple of days or like the...

Lauren Bernick (22:40.62)
I'm going on this is since Saturday and today is Monday, like the last sat night. This is more than a week now. And so it's finally feeling better. I've been taking it really easy. So that's why I was like, I probably don't want to do any demonstrations today. I mean, you can if you want to do it. But I was like, I just think that we should talk about that for a second.

Dreena Burton (22:49.789)
Ugh.

Dreena Burton (23:02.638)
how we can do it next time.

Yeah, let's talk about it. And I'm going to show you that move and then we'll talk about stretching. I also have to show you this really cool t-shirt that I have.

Lauren Bernick (23:16.628)
gosh. She's wearing some age like a badass mother merch. It says no seatbelt, no sunscreen, no supervision. So cute. Yes it was. Thank you.

Dreena Burton (23:18.094)
I love shirts. I think they're so rad.

Dreena Burton (23:26.226)
Yeah, that was our generation 100 % 11.

I love your I love your merch. I think it's so cool. So I'm just going to show the the meridian and the flow for large intestine, which is this your arm is in a cactus shape. So for those on on not on YouTube your arms and cactus. So when we do a traditional stretch and it's coming into the dealt area of the arm, we would normally just take the arm and bring it across the body and hold it in this what we call end range. So then that is we'll talk about it

Lauren Bernick (23:39.422)
Thank you.

Lauren Bernick (23:47.837)
Okay.

Dreena Burton (24:06.178)
range after this and how yoga can be, you know.

Difficult for people because of end range we'll talk about that but what we do for flow is we start with the arm out in I'm just gonna back up out in cactus at the shoulder We come around with the opposite hand hold the back of the elbow the arm wants to go back in space We're shortening the muscle group here. It's long here. It's shortened So we start with the muscle group shortened the arm is going back in space We're resisting it into the cup of the hand and then we slowly we hold the resistance so it's like flex

This is the flow formula. Flex. We contract the muscle, lengthen, we keep. Yeah. Hold.

Lauren Bernick (24:45.694)
She's sort of dragging her arm forward while resisting it, if you can't see. She has her arm up in cactus.

Dreena Burton (24:53.422)
and I'm slowly dragging it, like you say, it's got the resistance. So it's not just moving the arm in space, you're still trying to plug the arm back towards the back wall behind you as you bring it in front. Now, if I go too far and I'm not resisting, I start to go into end range and that starts to get Yankee in the shoulder. That tends to get irritable, Yankee in the shoulder, going into the attachments, causing

little micro tears. So if we stay in resistance, we stabilize in the joint space. We're not creating that end range pull yank. We're changing the fascial fibers. We're keeping it in the belly of the muscle and really creating a nice change. But if we kind of go too fast or maybe just too, if we go strong as you talked about, if you're really going after it and you go strong, you can move

less and it's fine. You're resisting a lot and moving less. It's actually quite fine to up your resistance. It's just really hard to do. Where it gets more testy is if you're going into end range without resistance. So end range without resistance gets tricky because I have a little doof lookie here I'm going to show you. So the muscle fibers want to recoil, right? We're meant to

Lauren Bernick (26:03.156)
Mm-hmm.

Lauren Bernick (26:22.236)
It's like a little, she's like, has like a baby slinky and she's pulling it apart. So she's like, yeah, okay, showing us that's.

Dreena Burton (26:25.526)
Yes. Yes.

I'll try to remember for those not on YouTube. Yeah, so it's like we have a natural recoil in our muscle fibers. We tend to think that we need to lengthen our muscles all the time. Our muscles are always contracting through the day. All they're ever doing is contracting, contracting to produce movement all day long. And we want to slide. So I'm just interlacing my fingers here and bringing them together. So the muscle fibers, when they contract, they're coming together. And then we want them to come out with a slide.

But when the fascia is sticky, they kind of torque, like there's a resistance. And then you're trying to move and there's...

restriction in the movement because the fascial fibers are interfering because they're dense, dehydrated, they're scar tissue, whatever it might be. So coming back to our slinky, we want this recoil ability. Now, if we're in a yoga class and we're doing it repeatedly and we're going into say a split and we love doing a split, maybe we're in a hot room and we go here and then we say, like, you know, look at this. I might be on yoga journal tomorrow.

Lauren Bernick (27:37.576)
Yeah. She has the slinky pulled like all the way out where it's, yeah.

Dreena Burton (27:39.358)
I'll keep splitting all the way to range, or pretty much in range. Well then it starts to lose its bounce back.

Lauren Bernick (27:49.453)
I see. Yup.

Dreena Burton (27:50.734)
And when we do this repetitively, this is what we're doing to our tissues. We're malforming them. They're not getting that bounce back. And if you remember as a kid, we had natural bounce. We had this recoil. We could bound off the floor. felt great. And we lose that with aging. And some of it's through activity, but also it's what we're doing to our bodies. We're told that either strength train excessively, or we live in one of two worlds. Strength training, usually.

or stretching and both done repetitively and excessively will cause issues in the tissues. And so this is extra. So what may have happened when you were in your plow pose and doing those things is you're really yanking and then the body has to go in, fill up all these little micro tears and repair with dense fascia like with band-aids, band-aids of fascia.

Lauren Bernick (28:46.292)
Mm-hmm.

Dreena Burton (28:47.95)
And then the next morning you wake up and you feel stiff because the law is protecting you with these fascial fibers and it's hard to move because there's so much stiffness, there's inflammation. And most people when they feel stiff, what do they do? They do this again.

Lauren Bernick (28:50.772)
Mm-hmm.

Lauren Bernick (29:03.262)
They more stretch. At least I knew not to do that. I was like, well, my body's trying to tell me something like, girl. And so I have been resting it. It's really hard for me. This morning I went to the sauna. So I guess when would be a good time to start exercising again or doing my fashion flow when I feel completely fine or, okay, so just wait.

Dreena Burton (29:09.174)
Yes.

Dreena Burton (29:13.517)
Yeah.

Dreena Burton (29:28.63)
Sometimes you really do need to give the body that rest, right? The nervous system is heightened and you have to come on in under the radar of the nervous system. So I will say there's a category in fascia flow that might help you, might be nice and gentle. It's called micro magic. And we use, I have one behind my back now, like a little inflated ball. So you might just start with like, you know, using this behind your back at the chair.

Lauren Bernick (29:32.308)
Yeah.

Lauren Bernick (29:38.537)
Mm-hmm.

Lauren Bernick (29:50.984)
yeah.

Dreena Burton (29:58.596)
feedback to the body and it's going under the radar so you don't feel threatened but a lot of the fascia flow moves too are you know they feel good in the body you feel more energized you feel released so I'd say when things don't feel angry then start because you know when your body's like saying and we override it that's the problem we are our own worst enemies right we override we do strength training we have pain and we push through it

Lauren Bernick (30:15.228)
Okay, yes, yes.

Yes.

Lauren Bernick (30:29.204)
Mm-hmm.

Dreena Burton (30:29.346)
The body's sending you a message. We're not meant to be in pain. And if we're in pain and we're still doing it, at some point, something will, the body's like, I'm sending you a message. I'm sending you a message. I'm sending you a message. If you're not listening, injury. Right?

Lauren Bernick (30:45.33)
Yeah, thanks, body. mean, thanks for telling me I'm sorry I didn't listen to you. And you know, it's funny, I did a meditation yesterday and I was like, I'm so sorry, body, that I disrespected you and I send you love and I'm so, like, know, envisioning healing love, just flooding my body and saying I was sorry. And I really did feel better after, but I totally didn't listen to my body.

That's, it's all my fault, but it's okay. I learned.

Dreena Burton (31:15.214)
Yeah, and it's just like, I hear you, it's a lot of the messaging that we're also getting that we need to always do things. It's just like the seasons that we talked about.

Lauren Bernick (31:27.262)
Mm-hmm.

Dreena Burton (31:27.81)
We don't accept that there's a season of rest for our bodies. We always tell ourselves we need to be productive and do and perform and be active and go. And we are as well in our stage of life in menopause. We are considered to be in a more yin season of life. And this is why we come back to ourselves and we're like, coming back to us now, right? Because we are.

Lauren Bernick (31:30.75)
Yes.

Lauren Bernick (31:50.043)
Is, yeah, is yin, I know one is considered male and one is considered female. I always forget those. What yin is female or?

Dreena Burton (31:55.47)
Yeah. The feminine energy and male is the masculine.

Lauren Bernick (32:02.504)
the yang energy. Okay, that's what I thought. Well, next time we'll do some demo, we'll still be in spring in May, so we can do some liver and gallbladder exercises and show those. But until then, just eat your sour foods and move, flow, dance, sway.

Dreena Burton (32:26.119)
Way, move in different ways too. Move in different ways. Yeah.

Lauren Bernick (32:28.284)
Yeah, yeah, do the things that feel good and fun, what else? Anything else? Nourish your body with what kinds of, is it okay to start eating the more raw foods now? Start in them, okay.

Dreena Burton (32:33.484)
Yeah, yeah, nourish your body and nourish your body.

Dreena Burton (32:44.086)
Yeah, yeah, and just know that if you're someone that does tend to have a weaker digestion, then you may still need some cooked cooked things in there. So you may still want to have, you know, cooked carrots in your salad versus raw. So you know that about yourself. Yeah.

Lauren Bernick (32:57.232)
that's good. That sounds good. Well, thank you, Drina and everybody go to drinaberton.com. Check out her fascia flow, her recipes. Your salad dressing is one of my favorites. The house dressing, except I have redone it because it has a little too much fat for heart people. So instead I take out the tahini and then I do half a cup of, no.

So it calls for a half cup of cashews and I do a quarter cup of cashews and a quarter cup of walnuts. And it's so delicious. It's so good. So everybody, yeah, go check out Drina's delicious recipes and we'll see you next month, Drina, thank you. Bye bye.

Dreena Burton (33:33.326)
Yeah, that's a great

Dreena Burton (33:41.602)
Thank you. Can't wait. Bye.