City After Dark: Season 1 Episode 1 Pilot

Coryne & Francene are excited to kick off this brand new podcast as we recap the legendary Sex & The City Series! 

City After Dark: Rediscovering Sex and the City

Dive into the glittering world of 'City After Dark,' a podcast that takes you on a glamorous journey through the iconic series 'Sex and the City.' 

Join us as we rediscover the laughter, tears, and timeless moments of Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte. 

Each episode is a delightful stroll down memory lane, featuring witty banter, candid discussions, and a touch of nostalgia. 

Whether you're a long-time devotee or a first-time viewer, come along for the ride as we explore the city that never sleeps and the friendships that defined an era. 

And, as we compare our viewpoints from our twenties when we first watched the show to now, you'll witness how our perspectives have evolved with time, adding a unique layer to our reflections on this beloved series.

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City after dark, we discovering sex and the city dive into the glittering world of city after dark, a podcast that takes you on a glamorous journey through the iconic series sex and the city. Join us as we discover the laughter tears and timeless moments of Carrie Samantha Miranda and Charlotte, each episode is a delightful stroll down memory lane, featuring Woody banter, candid discussions, and a touch of nostalgia. Whether you're a long time to voting or a first time viewer come along for the ride. As we explore the city that never sleeps and the friendships that defined an era. And as we compare our viewpoints from our twenties, when we first watched the show to now you'll witness how our perspectives have evolved with time adding a unique layer to our reflections on this beloved series.

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So episode, why did we both watch last night? Which was what a, what a M. Oh, man. What a throwback. It's so crazy to think about. Like, I didn't realize until last night when I was looking it up, because like I was telling you, I have all of these on DVD in the original sets, but of course I don't have a DVD player. So I was like, well, shit, like where do you stream this? So how do I sound like Googling? And so I ended up having to buy it. HBO.'cause I like we all need a Saturday. I know. Well, in hindsight, I should've just paid for this anyway, whatever I paid for. Yeah, I paid for the first season, so I have it. But when I was doing that, I was like scrolling through. They have like the pretty like cover for. This 25th anniversary. And I was like, wow, this, which is. I'm a good for us. This is kind of great timing. Yeah. When was the last time you watched it? So sex in the city is one of those things that like, I can just have it on the background, as long as my daughter's at home. Yeah, but like anytime the movie comes on, oh, I was just playing in the background. I got. But I, and I think, I can't remember when it was, it was a few months ago and it must've been showing on some streaming, something I had going on. It's fine. I think it was like season four. Like I watched a handful of those episodes recently, but to like sit episode one, I can't tell you the last time I watched it. I'm the same. I haven't, I normally go back and I feel like I dip in and out of the seasons. Or I fall asleep. And then, you know, you're onto like the next season. I'm like, okay, let's just keep going. But it has been so long since I watched this Lightbox. Yeah, which, which I forgot and immediately remembered, but I forgot so many things. I forgot a that she talked to the camera. Yeah. Which I'm so glad. Barry cringe. Yeah, it was like M two. You remember? Caressa? No. She was like Melissa Joan Hart members. Teenage. So she has a TV show before, and it was called like Carissa knows everything or something, and she would talk to the camera. Some there is some sitcoms. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some sick cousin did that and it works. Like I recently have been watching house of cards and he talks to the camera sometimes. Oh, And it works. It works, but Carrie doing it? No. And I also forgot all those and like the writing the words across the screen for the character. But they also pause them at very awkward. Yes, whoever was editing that in that pilot. Oh my God. I'm so glad I got away from it really fast. Yeah. But all those male characters say they had in that in the first and the second episode, but in the first one that they were like, you know, like building up their backstory and carrying all these male friends. And I was like, What. I know. These fools. And also just her apartment. Because it's not her apartment. It's going to say. I was like, what in God's earth? And I don't think I realized I didn't even know. Cause obviously. I was trying to like write notes and be like, okay, let me make sure I make observations. And I was like her apartment. And also, I really want to take a picture and maybe we can share this on my car, Instagram. It was so Massey messy. And nine cabinets. I was like, oh, I am. What was that coffee side? She carried us to move. She moved up, she moved up immediately. And it was bad. It was bad. And I also As far as like, I love the subject of it and the whole, like, you know, why the, my, one of my favorite lines ever, like why are there so many amazing single women and no amazing single men? And I want to be like, Bitches. 25 years. Same problem. And that can change. JJ. Oh my gosh. But yeah, that was, it was crazy how they like they were like showcasing the men and like tests. It's almost just like laughable of like, there. Like the things those guys were saying, and I'm just like, oh my God, like, this is, yeah. And I loved how, like they did like, to your point, I am glad they moved away from it to like her like kind of narrating it. Yeah. But I did like how they try to like set the scene for each character. And I'm kind of going into the episode a little bit, but the contrast between like Samantha and Charlotte. So like star. Yes. Like her going on that date with that kind of bachelor that everyone wants to be with Cody Duncan. It's like, you know, I can't sleep with them on the first day. Can it go home? And then he takes the opportunity and he's like, fuck it. I'm going to go in the car. I'm going to go to chaos. I had forgotten. With the math and I had totally forgotten that. That is. Oh, God. Yeah, no. And it also like the whole conversation about like, we're going to have sex, like men. Yeah. And like, you know, the emotional is, and I love that conversation when they're sitting there. Miranda's birthday dinner. Talking about like the possibility of that. And it's so funny. Like, I feel like why have we not come further in. But I will say, I do think women today, like I do think that we like get it. I think we are finally at a point where, like we see the forest for the trees when it comes to like the pressure of being like the good little girl and like, The necessity of marriage was. So Samantha was obviously ahead of her time. Yeah. Some of her comments. I was like, damn girl. She was ahead of her time. For sure. And I do think we've kind of like co even like a younger generation than me, for sure. Like, I feel like they see that differently. Great. And also it's still like, so funny that. It's it's like that. That we have to have those conversations, you know, like why is that, that men approach it with such flippancy? And ease, no emotion. But what was interesting is so part of the episode, this being the kind of pilot where they have the introduction to each character then Carrie decides she sees one of her exes, who she'd been with so many times in Stanford. Like, oh my God. Ah, damn it. I never wrote down what you said. Something like, no, you fucking did it. Or something. What are you doing? Dave? And he's like, she's like, don't do that. It's. I'm trying to say hello ever. I mean, she totally like makes a plan to hook up with and he's like, what are you doing? Just like research. Yeah. But I am, but I love that. I love how like, honest like she is about it, but what cracked me up more is her kind of playing in this type of character where she's like, I can do the same thing and then she does it. Yeah. She's like, oh, it felt so good. I got my thing. I'm out. But then when she bumps into him in the club and he's like, oh my God, you finally get it. Thank God you finally got it. And she's like, it doesn't feel that good. I didn't want you to know that's what I was doing. And you're like, hold on. No, I didn't think too. And this is a conversation you and I have had before about like, which character are you. And I have always been very staunch in my belief that I was as Samantha and I have to say. After watching this episode and like just rethinking through, I no longer think of a stodge, Samantha, I think I had a lot of summit, but in me, yeah. Sure. But it is something that took me. It took me. Into my thirties to get real clear about the fact that like, while I tried really hard to be a B. Emotional about and like, believe that like I could have sexual relationships and not ha this is not true. It's not true. And it is true to a point and Derek and I had this conversation once about this, that like, I could have sex just for fun, but only like once or twice. With the same person. And then like, I feel like as women, like we're, it's. It's biological. It's unfortunate, but it's biological that like you're, you're just designed to feel a task. Made for life at that point. Like Charlotte yard. How did he need a ring? Have a picket fence. The marriage the next day. Yes. I mean like, and it's it's it's so it's ingrained to, into us. From society. And also, I think there's a part of that is legit. Like our animalistic. Yeah. Nature as, as the, the person who bears the life, like it's like, it makes us like attached and I'm like, how do we. Where's the shot for that. I know Samantha Johns could like teach us so much, so much. But, you know, at the same time, like it will. And she, they really did a good job from that first episode of Billy her character into something that was genuinely powerful. And interview worthy. Yeah, I've seen before. No, and yes, especially at that time, especially at that time. After the first episode and into watching the second, I was kinda like yeesh about like, I almost was like, oh, don't be that girl. And I have again, like. She was always my favorite character. I always adored her, always thought I was so much like her. And now I'm like thinking it. I am just a carry. I always, honestly, I always wanted to be carried, but in reality, and I feel like it's taken the last. Five years to reflect. I'm a hundred percent Charlotte. As we go through some of these like recap. I know there's going to be times that I'm going to shy away and be like, oh my God, I can't believe you're talking about. And it's so Charlotte. And that always wanting love to succeed and always like thinking that that's like the best way I know my inner Charlotte. Charlotte. I'm like for sure. It's carried. No fashion and her fashion and her shoes, apps. I don't know those Samantha's fashion was always on point too. Yeah. Well, even her hair. You know, one of my observations was like her hair and this episode. Because it was longer. Just look so good. So sharp. So. So like youthful as well. Yeah, but she never had it that long again. I mean, outside of episode, one was a long ass time ago. Of course, she looked youthful. They all, did they all did? Oh, my God. Carrie's hair that like super short, super. Super curly. Dart and dark. Yeah, that's right. Cause or here it's really blind. It goes through immediately saying like how much like the character and you can, I know you can tell from like other TV series, but just seeing how different the characters look from the pilot to then episode to episode two. There's also like one of my good friends is an actress and she we've talked about that before. Like where you see someone shoot even like the whole first season. Yeah. ISA Ray is one that I remember seeing her. I don't know. I forget the name of her show. That's so amazing right now. Why did I forget that? I love that show. Anyway, the first whole season ISA looks one way and in, see the beginning of season two, it's like, she's gone through the Hollywood machine and she's just like spelt and like her haircut and her makeup. And I was talking to Molina about it one day because I adored her and she was so freaking gorgeous from moment one. It wasn't like she needed any of that. And I was like, oh my gosh, like, have you seen the second season? Season like ISA and she's like, she's like, that's not even she, she said, I promise you. It's not even on purpose. She's like, you just are so inundated in. Being busy and like, you're, you're killing yourself for this show. And like, you just have to rely on, like, you got my makeup. Great. Like, are you cooking my food grade? And she's like, it just happens. And so I think there's probably some of that too, with every cast where they, like, they kind of from pilot to when they're then like in, it feels. All those episodes and like living that life, you know, maybe it's also because they like getting to the character really well or something maybe are. I'm sure they must get so much feedback. Like the pilot on to make these tweaks or whether it's about parents or the characters, or even changing the narration. From how she did it from that first, the editing. Yeah, for sure. That's true. Well, and the other thing I love about this episode of kind of setting the scene and being able to meet the characters is we get to meet bay. First encounter also. So. Can you imagine? Like, I love it. She's so proud of herself. And again, Good for them for like, letting that be a moment of power for her. For her that like a whole slew economy thought. Out of her purse after that walk of shame in the afternoon. If you got time. Like the guy, what does he do for a living? She's a writer. Oh, Remember, cause he comes back in another episode and I remember what he does, but I'm not going to say it now because it's hilarious. What he's doing now. But no. Yes. But like what? She's a writer. So like she like is out, you know, walking out of his, I guess, apartment. And she bumps into someone and spills her purse and big literally like picks up the condoms day. And she's so curious about her. And I love that she just fully freaking owns it and she's like, he's good looking. And he knows that I have. You know, like great supply of. Protection. She like details what they are. It was ribs. Something else she. Ribs lubricant. I don't know what it was, but yeah, she's very proud of herself. Good for her for practicing safe sex. And also being owning that in front of someone. I mean, she didn't it's. It's so crazy to, to think back to like to see that moment. It's to know what's coming for them. Then I know. That's crazy to think about for sure. But yeah, they, they did a great job with all of that, definitely. Well, and even then when they next meet, when they're in chaos, And then she had that moment with the guy that she had. I got what's his name? Oh, The Kirk Kirk. Yeah, I was like, he has. But when she and Kirk was like, finally, you get it. This is awesome. Yeah, everyone is asleep together. Let me know if I'm free, I'll do it. And then she's like stuffing her face. No. Next episode. That's the, yeah. That's the model. Our episode. No, I know it's hard to watch them together because they do well. They do a good job of like blending the story where it's like, you know, one after the other. But no chaos is that episode is where Samantha trusts his sleep with him. That's right. Yeah. Oh yeah. And even just like watch, as we were talking about Samantha, just being so powerful and the way she just owns it. The way when she passed on like this cigar. Part of me was a little bit awkward for her because big was so polite. He was so nice. And. So not interested. He was totally not interested. Yes. No, I know. I think it's something that. Well, and it's so it's, I think it's awkward for us because it's, it's, it's not usual to see a woman. Take that position of power. She was so far where yeah. Cause you know, that's how many. That way. Yes. Well, that's how men are like that, that is how they approach us all the time. Like, they're just going to throw it out there. Yeah. And like, it's that age old? anti-IgE of like, if you ask 10 chicks, one of us probably going to say yes, and they're not offended by the nine that said no. Whereas like as a woman. Oh my God. If one guy is like, now, you're just like, oh, I can just eat. Sit your soul. You know, I will say back in my day, in my, in my twenties, In my org. Where do you call that miss Samantha era? That's where to call it. That's I was totally that way. Like I, and I will say it failed almost every time. I mean. This is one of my best girlfriends. You didn't pop on that cigar. Actually. I was like, wow. The way she likes. No, she's just like, like fully, he is not interested everywhere. And she's just going with it. She's like when. You want to. I do the PR for this place, that it, where the private room is immediately going to that. Immediately. I just want to say. I just wanna have sex with, you know, about him. I just want to go do it. Like my aunt Charlotte, it's just like, oh my God, you don't. Don't even know. We're just looking to see really like you, or does he just want a sexy, like, what are you doing? And this totally here though. That's totally like that is who she is for sure. Well, and then she goes home to Charlotte's guy, which again goes back to that, like her truly like living her life, like a guy. Yeah. I don't care. With someone else, but didn't that give you the vibe? Like when, when they walk into his apartment and together, and you realize that it's Samantha. Because like, for me, when that dude got in the cab was Charlotte and he's like, oh, I'm going to chaos. Like I really need to have sex tonight. For me, and it's probably my age. And it's also just like you're pathetic. Like that's what I, that's what I want to say to that dude. Yeah. And so when Samantha then ends up with him later, it's like, so the guy you wanted didn't want you, so you just took like, whatever was available, you know what I mean? Maybe I'm getting judgemental at this age. And again, I was probably looking like too much into this. But I felt they just did such a direct comparison onto how Samantha is versus Charlotte. And I think they obviously did that hand. So she went home with that guy, but she pissed. Specifically mentions the painting. He had spent a lot time enticing. Charlotte's kind of looking at. Cause obviously trying right. With Samantha, he was like, I'll show you later. And then he was like, and by the way, I haven't early meetings. So like, you can't stay. Like straight up. He's like, we're just doing it. And you're going to get out of here. Yeah. I was like, damn he is. I think I would have cried at that. No. I think in my whole life, I've never had anyone say some shit like that to me, like going in, like even, and even in like where, you know, it's just a hookup, like. If you said, bye Felicia, like, man, I'm not saying for shit like banks, like whatever. Oh, no, wait until after to then say, leave. Yeah. Let me kill the mood. And again, she owns it. Yeah, well, me. Me too. Yeah. She needed it as well. Yeah, obviously she did. And again, good for her and like good for being ahead of the curve. And it's also like to know where her character goes, you know? And like the pur cause like I do end up really respecting her and like loving, The woman that she is, you know, as they build her character so crazy. And I probably should have looked this up, but like what a great freaking concept at the time. Oh yeah. You know that that was coming out. We were talking about this earlier, too, but like eyes. I'm going to date myself a little bit, but the year it came out, I graduated from high school and I definitely was not watching it when I was 18. Mostly because like, I wouldn't have had access to HBO. And we surely didn't have that in the dorms, but I was thinking about it last night when I was watching. And I was like, where, where would I have started watching this? And my, so my parents were divorced and my dad had HBO in his house and I would stay with my dad. Yeah. He was. He is. But yeah. I would stay with my dad whenever there was college breaks. Like if I was out for fall break or Christmas, and I bet you, that is probably where I started watching it was at my dad's on HBO. And I was probably like up late when he was asleep, like Ru. Sex. And we were saying this too, when it came out, I don't even think it was that big in the us, sorry, in the UK. So I'm originally from Scotland. So I didn't start watching this until I was about 16. I think. And I just happened to fall upon like a couple of the episodes and obviously they spoke. So in detail. Very naive when I was growing up that I was like, oh my God, what is all that. And then me and my girlfriend started watching it, but it was honestly, I must have started in at like season four because I remember the last episodes and we watched that live. I remember that being a really big deal. And back in the day when you couldn't just like stream everything, you actually had to wait. For the next step. No. I think by the time season three was coming out, I was there where, like, I remember, like it was Thursday nights at nine o'clock on HBO. That sound, I can hear it in my head right now. Like the fuzzy. Yeah. Because I always think that sex and safe, but it's not. HBO. I a hundred percent of credit. Yeah. Something random. I thought, no, but I remember by that time, by like season three, I was getting together with friends. For that. And also the other thing that blew my mind, those episodes were like 24 and 26 minutes. Oh, I was on the pallet and I was like, damn, I need to do the other one here because I totally thought I could do like Pelton for a bit. And then I'll watch it like in battery. Right here. Yeah, they're quick. So yeah, I remember by the time it was like season three, like. I was watching it, like, as it would come out and yes, it was before streaming. It was even before like DVR where you could like record it and go back. So if you didn't watch it Thursday night, I think they would reshow it the next week. 30 minutes before. Oh, I think so. You remember that? Like they would show. Same with like friends, because we would watch that on like a Friday night. Yes. You're right. You had miss it. You missed it. Yeah. I had to pray for a rerun when it was like sweeps wheat, not sweeps, but whenever they take those weeks, when I used to. I used to like never, they would take weeks off and for like a month it was all reruns. When I was a kid, I remember that a lot. Yeah. It was like, all things you'd seen before. Now it's like, I feel like when episodes come on, I could probably recite them. I. I mean, can you imagine, oh my gosh. I know. Well, that's the thing, crazy thing too, is as long as it has been, since I watched episode one, I still knew the line that was coming. Oh, Oh, that one for sure. But that's epic, but like, even like the little ones, like like the things that I can't remember what right now, like the things that Samantha would say or show. I knew I knew what they were about. Say in those, like, you know, Those like key moments of the show in those, those things together. But I know, I feel like I was trying to like, capture like some of the quotes, but I think it's more like the next episode, there were some. Corker's. And these people are like throwing out there. Sir, you know, the other thing that like cracked me up about this episode too, is You know, the term like ghosting. Yes. They. This was. But the weirdly, like they start off with this like, story of like, This friend of a friend that meets this guy and everything's going perfect in this great. And they've been deigned for however long, and then he's like, Hey, we need to go view this apartment. And then she never hears from him again. Like invites her to dinner with his parents and then he. Sick quote unquote. Yeah. I used an apartment and then they're talking about kids now. I did love that. They said that it had been two weeks and I'm like, Hmm. That reminds me of someone. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's ghosting. Yeah. I felt very in with it. Then you're like, Hey, I'm like, oh my God, they made a term for this. I have a hashtag for you and you don't even know what hashtags are yet. Can you imagine if this had come out in the days of binge-watching? No. And we had been able to consume. The entire season, literally you could have done it in four hours because there's such short episodes, but like, Oh, that would've been a whole nother thing, for sure. I wonder if it would have had the same, because I do feel like. Dexter is another one that I remember, like having to wait. Oh, to see where they left you on that fricking cliff. Whereas like now, like what's the one that I love with Jason Bateman that. It was like the best Ozark. We'll leave you on a cliffhanger. And then I would just watch the next 10 minutes. And then pause it and be like, okay, now I can go to sleep. Like. We don't have to wait for anything anymore. That is something like the world in which we live now. Like we did, none of our children know what it is to be bored, which is a sad. Yeah, because I feel like in boredom, you created so much, you know, and you also learned to just like, be with yourself. Yeah. That is something that is a lost art and something I worry about for their generations and beyond. But also like ha that like having to anticipate something I know I'm really wait for it. I'm going to be in, because again, certainly like the layer like series me and my girlfriend, Amy. We're so obsessed. And I think it was out on like a Friday night that we wouldn't go out with everyone else. We'd be like, no. We are weighing in. We're going to watch this. And then we would chat about it for like hours after and knowing that we were so young to you, like you weren't having sex. I mean, we had no idea. Yeah. We were just like, oh my God. So engrossed in this like other life that we just thought was so fabulous. And I think for, so I'm from a small town in Texas and like, and I went to college when, which would have been when I was, but I mean still in a very, a fairly smallish town way, big compared to what I grew up in. But like, you know, in, in, in kind of rule Texas, so like to get, to see kind of like that glittering life of like New York. And I had never been to New York at that point. Yeah. The New York city and like the fashion shows and like the clothes that they wore and just like the people that we did, even that date with the dude, or go into the club downtown. Those kind of things where it was just like getting to like have a, a. You know, bird's eye view into a world that like I knew nothing about, and without a doubt, As we continue to talk through these episodes, like, oh my God did sex in the city shape my idea of what I wanted my life to look like. Same. Yes. Yes. Yes. And. And like what I wanted. And I think probably one of the biggest takeaways was like what I wanted my circle, like, you know, cause they, the, even in that first episode, that connection between those four women. Yeah, and their friendship and I love honesty. Yes. And I love that they are each such different people. Yeah. You know, like they, they all have such a different. Everything about them really, but they have that. That a bond and that tribe of like, even though they're all single and like, you know, they're each going through their version of like what that should look like and the struggles of that. It's like, they, they, they come together and. You know, like they're each other's support system. And I think for me, like at a young age, seeing that and being like, that's the thing that should be. That's what you want more than anything it's like to have that network of, you know, your chosen family around you. That's that's got you. You know, I'm going to say something. So Charlotte yard cause her soulmates. They are though. But also I need to say, and I just check my notes. Miranda. God, she was such like. Bitch cynic. Yeah. I was like, oh, magic. You go on a date. I find that several different, like. It was like picking. That's the first time. She wants to save a skipper. Yeah. Even like gang his name wrong. Just being really dismissive. Like, I don't know. I was almost like found her hard work initially. No. And I think that you will continue to feel that way for a few episodes, because I definitely feel like they, they, they warmed her up. Yeah. They toned down cause she, yes, such a bit and she's a lawyer. So it's just built in essentially. I was like, oh, ah, that poor guy. And he tries so freaking hard and he. And all he sees is her. She's just like throwing them back. Like that is a great, that's kind of an interesting. Take from like what Samantha is doing, where she's like in your face. That's all I want. And she's essentially doing the same thing, but in a much more. I just don't want this. And she's just like pulverizing, like a genuinely nice guy. And to be fair. Same disease. So. With like, there's no way I could've done anything else. I mean, I wouldn't have like, oh God, it's like, like a guy like that. Like just like, why is it was so sad? It's so repulsive, like. But the others. The other thing, and I cracked up and I wrote. It's still too. So when Miranda and skipper. Leave the place. She was like, I'm going to go home. And and you know, she's saying whatever. And he she's like, well, you're just such a nice guy. And he pulls her very masculine. How. Yeah, it goes skipper. But then after that, One of my observations is it wasn't a passionate kiss. It was like 10 minute old kisses. No. I think you've just proved yourself to be. But I found that awkward viewing. You just pulled her. So I was like, oh yeah. What Miranda knees? And that was like, Little packs. And I was like, no. He doesn't have an impor Skippy. He doesn't. It's also crazy to, like, I had totally forgotten about that character and he carries, I remember he carries through. Season one. It was like care when a Carrie's friends. Curious entirely too many male friends at this first episode. We need to hone that shit back in. She's setting that scene, but how does he Stanford? We love. Of course. I forgot how I forgot what his career was then. And how obsessed he was with this client. I had forgotten all about that. His name something, the bone. Oh, my God. He's so cute. I love Stanford. But the other thing, I guess we need to mention as we've county gone through like a lot of this episode is that when she sees being again, when she's outside chaos, He then picks her up and officer awry. I do have a Phantom. Innervation. When he picks her up, his car windows are not tinted when she gets out. They're tinted. It together. I know how many of these I'm going to know. They've gotta be tinted from that point forward. It was a pilot. They were struggling. This town car like that. No. I know, but what is, what am yeah, like that is such foreshadowing. I have like him kind of always being heard nights. Yeah. And like right in that moment where she's feeling so vulnerable and like, so down on like, you know, being the, you know, cool single girl in the city and like theory is, you know, And just like takes care of her and gets her home and they have a great conversation in the car. Again, it's so interesting to watch them in those moments and to know like, The rest of their story. Yeah. It's very cute to be able to see that and be like, oh, wow. Like if y'all knew what was coming. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I think that's when she say is. They were talking about love. And he was like, have you ever been loved? She's like, no. Then she gets out the car goes back and is like, wait a minute. Have you ever been in love and it's like acid fucking lit. I'm like, no, that's a great thing. The car, when they're talking they're talking about it and he says, oh, so you've never been in that. And that's where she's like, I feel like the breath had been knocked out. Yeah. Which is crazy. There's something about Carrie that like, you don't really get into until way later, but like, she definitely has some hangups about. Being in love. Yeah. And like what that looks like and, and like the healthy relationship versus the not so healthy relationship. Yeah. Discuss a lot of, yeah, that's all coming, but like that is. It's a very they did a great job with that. They did a great job in that pilot and, or they took what they did in that pilot and really like built off of it for a long time, because I feel like they tie so much stuff back to those moments for years. Of what they did with that show. And a couple movies. And oh my God. We haven't just like that. I haven't even seen yet, which like, this is why I was like, so y'all for backstory. At the end of last year, one of my resolutions was I really want to do a sex and Satan podcast. And I was like, who else would be better than doing this with current? If you're like the biggest fan. And you've never watched him just like that. I cannot wait. And I was like, we need to capture your live. We buy with reaction. So many attain and I'm here for it. You know this, but like for the audience. I'm a purist and I, not really, but when it comes to my sex in the city of session, like, I didn't want, like, I cherish it so much. And honestly the second movie like pushed it a little bit for me where I was like, oh yes, I can move. Don't ruin it. Don't you go there. And so when it came out, like I didn't right away jump into it. It was actually you that I spoke with and I was like, what are you thinking? You're like, I don't know. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not going to watch it. I can't even see it. But for you guys, for the audience, when we get there, I'm going to watch it and he's shocking. So here for this. We'll do we'll have to capture your experiences. I will watch it and I will let you guys know what I think, because I've heard things and I don't, I don't want to, you know, I just treasure my memories of that. Those people are those characters so much, like I don't want to. I don't want to tarnish it. I forgot yours are laughing, being like we know what's good. I. All right. Well, I guess that's a wrap for episode one, the pilot. We'll be back soon with episode two, which is models and mortals. They called it. I should really pay attention to that. The word that I took out. Of episode two was modelize or. That's the one. Yeah, we'll stop. They're hilarious. Hashtag model.