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francene:Okay, so episode one Oh, no, sorry.
coryne:We did. We did that. We did that.
francene:We did it. Okay. Season. Season one, episode five, the power of female sex. Oh my God. I love this episode. This
coryne:one was such a great, like, I loved how uncomfortable they made Charlotte in this episode.
francene:Yes. Oh, yes. Oh, God, this is just such a good one. Okay, so we are gonna kick it off. So while she's shopping, indulging Havana. Yes. Carrie meets her friend. Emilia? Emilietta? What's her name? Emelita. Emelita. Emelita, yeah. And her rich boyfriend, which I love.
coryne:And I love that she meets her because they declined Carrie's credit card. And her friend, like, hones in on it from across the store. And is like, and like, here! Darling! Darling, darling!
francene:Darling, I've got
coryne:this! But yeah, and she pays for her shoes. And then tells Carrie that it's her boyfriend's credit card. He's Italian, right?
francene:Carlos! Don't worry, it's Carlos card! Can you imagine?
coryne:We're staying in the city, darling. Come see me at the Four Seasons. I'm staying with Carla. Like, she's, yeah. I didn't even, that's, again, like, I remember the first time I saw that episode of, like, that whole concept of what was going on there was so foreign to me, like, and Carrie pretty quickly explains it to the audience of, like, she's, you know, like, I don't even know the word she uses for it, but she's, you know, like, that's just how she lives her life is like, she, you know, is kind
francene:of from place to place, like holidays, shopping, rich man,
coryne:vacations, and the rich men are fronting the tab on like everything that you imagine,
francene:though, I was like, Oh, my God, that is my dream to have not to have my car declined, but for someone just to magically appear and be like, No worries, 500. I've got
coryne:it. Yeah. It's on me today. It's on me. I know. Never ever in my life has anything like that happened. Ever. I know. Maybe it's a New York thing. I don't know. That's, you know, now seeing that episode, it makes me think of Inventing Anna, which Yes. Oh, I love
francene:that.
coryne:That's so, oh my god, so captivating. But like that's, it's like this, like that vibe of like Yeah, it is. Yeah. Spending someone else's money. Like, yeah, so crazy. So she, she tells her where they're staying and like, so good to see you. And please look me up. And Carrie just like walks out of Dolce and she's just like, good to go. Like she got her shoes and she's
francene:on with her day. I love that. She's like, no, I can't, but okay. Okay. I'll take it.
coryne:I
francene:feel like I would do the same. Let's be honest in that situation. You're like, I mean, I'll take it. I
coryne:mean, I don't know this guy and obviously,
francene:I'm like, thanks. And then and then I think this is when maybe that same evening Carrie's in bed and then she phones her and says, Darling, we're down at this amazing new restaurant, right? Like this is the, the restaurant that I think her and Samantha,
coryne:no. So yeah, that's before can get into calls. Yeah. Her and Samantha tried to get into this restaurant, which, by the way, the name of the restaurant, did you pick up on this in the episode? It's, the name of the restaurant is Ballsack. Is it? It's like Ballsack, Ballsack, but it's Ballsack, like the name of it is Ballsack, like it's like some like, play on the word, but basically the name of it's Ballsack, but, so the, the name. It's the hot new place. Yeah, Hottie plays and Samantha, of course, thinks that she should be, you know, set at the finest table and they've like are waiting over an hour and they've got this like young hostess who, by the way, the hats that hostess wore. I know. Is that uniform? In every scene she has on a stranger and stranger hat. I was so focused on the hats. I was like, what is she wearing? But they can't, they can't get a seat and they're at the bar having a drink. Carrie's starving and, and, and over it. And Samantha's
francene:like And of course having their cosmopolitans, which I love.
coryne:Of course. Yes. Yes, of course. Samantha's just getting more and more pissed. So finally they leave. Well, then she runs into the, the socialite chick and then that evening she calls her and she's like, come meet us. And they're at that restaurant, like having, so, you know, having dinner. And so Carrie gets to walk in, the hostess is like, oh, it's going to be, and she's like, no, my friends are No,
francene:I'm, I'm with them. Yeah, which I also love that she goes because I don't know if you've been in like that situation where like, you know, obviously we we've got like kids. So you can't just if someone called me up right now, I can just obviously leave the house. But certainly prior, if someone was like, Hey, you should just come do this. I feel I've always been good at. Okay, I'm gonna pull myself together and I'm gonna come out.'cause you only live once. And I love that she does that. There's an age
coryne:that I would do that. I'm past that age now.
francene:I feel like I probably still would now if I mean obvious same circumstances, but you Yeah.
coryne:If, if like you had a live in nanny and like you didn't, you know, like you could just bounce. I'm sure it depends on the offer. The offer
francene:has. It couldn't stay up late, to
coryne:be honest. Yeah. Like back in the day, the offer could be like, we're at this shitty talker. Yeah. It's served margaritas until two, you should come and I would have been there. Now it's going to have to be like, you know, we're, we're, yeah, it's a ball sack.
francene:Free pair of Dolce Gabbana shoes.
coryne:Yes. I'll show up for that. I'll get my stuff. Okay. Together for that. Okay.
francene:Good to know boundaries.
coryne:I have levels. I have levels of required. It reminds me of that, that that post that we've all seen a hundred times, but it cracks me up where it's like, I can be in pajamas with like yesterday's makeup and my hair up in a bun. But if you say one thing about mimosas, I will be ready. I'm on it.
francene:Especially bottom lines.
coryne:Yes. If you say anything about brunch or mimosas. I can be there in 20. I'm there.
francene:Wait, the, the other thing we need to mention about like before she goes out for dinner and she has that interest, she has that interaction with her friend in Dolce Gabbana, when she talks about Carlos, did you hear when she's like, Oh, Carlos, darling, tiny little penis. She's a wave, darling. Wave
coryne:at Carlos. Oh, yeah, that I really do appreciate the fuck out of that girl. Like she doesn't give a shit. She's living her best life on somebody else's credit card. Good for her. Good for her. I know it is the best. So,
francene:They all go out for dinner. They have a great time and this is when she gets introduced to The architect, who is very handsome and French,
coryne:very chiseled. Yes. Very, very very interesting. Look like the men to this point in the show have like, other than of course, you know, big, but like, it's like the, it's a different, I don't know if it was like the time. So it's not like the, what I, what I feel like today we see and we're like, he's hot or, you know, like, he's so handsome. Yes. A great book. Yeah, what it is now, which is interesting to like, look back because I promise the first time we saw these episodes, we thought every one of those men was so good looking. Oh, for
francene:sure. But even the suits, I just love how much they wear suits. Like going like that's very rare
coryne:now.
francene:I could get off. I don't know anyone
coryne:that wears a suit to dinner I could get off a tangent on this whole conversation about how like as a society we have just because I love fashion so Much and like we are just we just don't do it anymore. I mean we wait you
francene:hate leggings I've just remembered we've had this conversation. Don't you you don't like leggings? Oh, I
coryne:used to have a vendetta That's it I've given in. I've given in. They're so cool now. Let me remember them. Leggings and Crocs was my Oh, I hate Crocs. Crocs are just what's wrong with
francene:society. No, I'm sorry. They're awful. Like, there's nothing good about them.
coryne:It's the runway. I just want you to listen to the last episode and remember that I'm again, I don't want Crocs to sponsor us. Crocs now, Francine. Damn it. No, I, I can't. No sponsorship from Crocs. No, I know. I love, I love. A society where people get dressed up to be in public in general, like, I am still that person that like, if I'm going to fly somewhere and I do fly places quite often, like, I am going to dress up like, I love to be like, you know, like. Look at me, not in an attention grabbing way, but in a like, respect me way, I just feel it is so easy to do these days. Like, you don't have it happens to me all the time. We're literally like. I mean, I am not pushing the envelope of fashion, especially cause at least you get to go to work every day. I'm like, I know I do
francene:love it. I do love that. Yeah. I
coryne:work, I work for myself. And so like I'm most, I'm at home a lot. And so when I go to like a meeting with a client or like I go to take pictures, whatever I'm doing, like I get dressed, like I can dress up like it's, you know, and it's not, that's not the norm anymore.
francene:No, it's not. And I have to admit, like, during COVID, when I, like, worked from home, that was the one thing I really missed. So I feel like, and now we've been back for a couple of years, but I really appreciate that. Like, every day I'm like, what am I going to wear today? Yeah. You know,
coryne:it's like, I don't have that much of a routine, but even like with run through runway, like I can look and be like, Hey, what do I have? Like, okay, so I have a, you know, like a lunch that I have to go through here or I have, like, I'll look at like what I have and then like, I can plan out like, okay, I'm gonna get these four outfits and, you know, dress to the freaking nines for, you know, these things that I'm doing. Like, I think that that I wish more people did that.
francene:Yeah, I agree.
coryne:We've definitely lost him. I know, I think it says something about our society as a whole that we should, you know, let's, let's put our best
francene:foot forward. Just so casual. I know. Come on, everyone. Everyone listening. Take advantage of tomorrow. Let's really dress up. As
coryne:Coco Chanel said, dress like you have a date with destiny every day. It is so true. You never know. You never know.
francene:Okay, so back to the episode so she's out for dinner with this very chiseled, handsome architect. Yes. And they're getting on really well and then she then, well, he, I think walks her home, right? And then he says, I want to know more about New York. Do you have time tomorrow to show me around? Which I also love that, like, he wasn't. Pushy. No. He had no expectations. Yes. Very
coryne:respectful. Yes. And then the next day, like they have the, like it's romantic day o romantic day all around New York and like the scenes from that. Oh my gosh. Just like the, oh, she looked amazing.
francene:Oh, everything she wore. Oh my
coryne:gosh. Yeah. It was like the, the quintessential like New York Day with this, you know. French business. It was very, very romantic. And then they end up together that evening. Oh, you know, in bed and like, you know, it's just like the, the icing on the cake of this, like romantic day, which is all great. And you feel all good for her. And like, what an experience. And then the morning.
francene:And then he leaves her a little note and he's like, Call me or something
coryne:you want. Yeah, he's like, yeah, as long as you want order room service I have to get to work but like, you know, enjoy yourself and you know, I'll call you and he walks over
francene:She's like wait, I don't have his number. You don't
coryne:have my number. Yeah, which begs the question How do you pick you up for the date that morning? You just show back up at her house, I guess
francene:But I, I mean, honestly, I feel like back then, you know, back in like 100 years ago, you do not think like nowadays, if I was like, all right, Kareem, we're going to meet in this bar. I'm going to be there at two. If anything happens, I can text you or be like, Hey, actually, we're going to move the location. Back then you would commit to a time and you would have to meet. No, I like, there's no
coryne:that. And like, the other thing is like, if you were running late or if something happened, what do you do? You were just left there wondering, like, this is, this is the thing, like, back in the day, like, all girls today, dating guys who ghost and, like, stop texting or calling and all that fucking bullshit, we are the ones who gave y'all the false hope, because back in our day, something actually could have happened, where they couldn't, they could actually be running late, or they could have gotten a flat tire. Today, there is no chance. Yeah, there's no. They're online. Yeah, they're texts. They're just not showing up. No, they're done. They're ghosts. They're full ghosts. Like, I know that is crazy to think about. But yeah, I guess he must have like, they made a plan and he picked her up at her apartment the next day. And then yeah, so she, she's like, she's fine with it though. Like, she's not weird. And she like rolls over and sees this envelope and she's like, Oh, there it is. Like he. It's going to be in there and she opens the envelope and it's 1, 000. So it's a lot of money
francene:is a lot of money. So tell me, cause when I was thinking about this episode, I feel like there's going to be a lot of these that I'm like, okay, maybe I'm judging myself as I go through this. What, what would you think and maybe I was a little bit disconnected when I was watching this episode being like, okay, you know, you're not going to see this guy again, you know, like it is what it was, it was, you know, a good couple of days for me, I would have taken it.
coryne:Gladly. Absolutely. Same. And I would have ordered all the room service. I would have gone to the spa. Same. I would have taken full fucking advantage of that day and, and felt no emotion. Like I would have had like, there would not have been a shred of me that had that like conscience that Carrie was having about like, does this make me a prostitute? No, it does not make you a prostitute. No. I'm sure. I
francene:guess. Yeah, I, I don't think, I probably would have done the same, like invite my girlfriends and be like, Hey, like, come over, but I don't know. But what's also interesting that I guess we didn't mention is throughout the start of this episode, we see like Carrie's card getting declined. She mentions a number of times trying to like save money and she doesn't have a lot of money. So I think, and she actually mentioned it to him too, on the date.
coryne:What did she say? I can't remember the exact She said
francene:something like, I can't remember what it was, but she was like, Oh, I'm trying to save my pennies or something. So She does
coryne:allude to it. Yeah, well and she alludes to it too in the episode before where she throws the 10 on the table with Big. Those are cab money. She's like, I threw my cab money on the table, yeah.
francene:She like had to walk that 36 blocks and I was like, God, I hope she was exaggerating. That was
coryne:a lot. Yeah. It feels that was a lot. Those feet are, those feet are conditioned. Okay. Right.
francene:So it was interesting seeing like all the girls kind of come together and, you know, kind of have that brunch and then talk about it. And I think it was maybe, I mean, Samantha was like, bucket, keep it. Yeah. Why would you not? And I think it was more Miranda was like, no, you absolutely cannot keep that. But then you're like, well. What are You can't send it back to him. What
coryne:waste. Yeah, you have no idea how to get a hold of him. Yeah. Like, what are you going to leave it for housekeeping? Yeah, I don't know. I'd leave like 20. Yeah. No, it's his hotel room. That's his job.
francene:Yeah, exactly. He does the tip. Yeah, I, I don't know. It was interesting hearing that discussion. And actually, I think at one point in this episode, and I can't remember the order where the girls are at Carrie's playing poker, where again, she's kind of doing that to save money so they're not going out. And they have a discussion, probably around like Carrie's friend, where they're talking about women using sexuality to get ahead. Which I also found to be like, An interesting discussion at that time, knowing everything that's happened over the last, like, five years, like, for us
coryne:Right. I mean, I, you know, working in a corporate career for many years and I was in sales. So like, I never, I definitely have had personal experience with the getting paid less and, you know, being treated differently because I was a woman, even though I was more educated and more experienced and more credentials and all those things in the same position as a man. I definitely have had personal experience with that. I never have, have felt like I. Directly used it to get ahead, but I will say, and it being in sales, like, I definitely understood that I could hold someone's attention because of it, you know, or like. I could get my foot in the door. Yes. Because of it, you know, like that it was something where, and I mean, it was a joke that I would have with like my male counterpart in my previous job. He's like, well, you know, wear that low cut shirt and they'll, they'll take, they'll, you know, let us take him to lunch and things like that. So like, well, I wasn't like, I never have felt like I directly, you know, got an edge up in my career by using my sexuality, I guess like in sales as a woman. Especially back then. It's like, you know, you also know that like you, you can, you, you're going to get someone's attention or focus because of it or like how you dress or whatever. And then you can use that to your advantage to like, give them your spiel or try to get their business, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. I use
francene:the time, you know, that is very true. Like the company I worked for previously Also in like a sales role, me and one of my male counterparts, we used to go to meetings together. And the reason we did that is we would see from the, you know, whoever we were kind of targeting, who they built a better relationship with. And then we would determine at the end of that lunch or coffee or whatever it was, who was going to be the one to follow up, i. e. if the person was more Like, we had a better relationship or better rapport, we would then do that, but I, I do hear what you're saying, like, definitely to kind of open the door, like, for sure, but I do appreciate that there are people out there that do take more of an advantage.
coryne:I'm sure. And I mean, I know, I mean, I know that there, I don't know, I don't know any personally, but I know that it happens that, you know I know women have done it. I know men. Have used it, you know, to our disadvantage for a fucking time. So, yeah, like, I get it that like women have used it as a step up in their careers. And it's probably I think it probably happens in the way that we're familiar with it way more often where it's like, you know, you, you can use, use it to just get an edge up essentially over somebody else. But I think that, like, it'll get my foot in the door and it also has been the reason that they don't take me seriously. Yeah.
francene:Oh, same. Yeah. Same. Which is annoying, like, to your point, especially if you're, like, more qualified. You have the information, but yeah, at the same time, they're like, whoa, what does that guy think? You're like, oh, goddammit. Yeah,
coryne:what do you think we should do? And no, I can't even, like, that's. That's a whole, that's a whole nother podcast.
francene:Oh my gosh, I know. But again, I love that even though this is what episode five, I appreciate at the time how much they have covered just in the last five episodes and some of these topics that I think at the time they really weren't discussing this from the. Women's point
coryne:of view perspective, especially, especially like a group of women who they did such a good job of like, they're different places that they're in and they're in their careers, even though they all are fairly successful to be at the they're, you know, mostly young ages, but like. You know, Carrie's completely broke, which makes sense for a writer in New York. Like, Charlotte's cutting your teeth, you know, running an art gallery. Miranda's already a wildly successful lawyer. And Samantha, who's older, you know, major player in the PR game, like, these are women who have their careers together, you know, and they had definitely have, I wonder if in their original, like, screenwriting, like, week. Meeting they were like, what's the 12 biggest things that we're not talking about? Let's talk about that. Let's go. Yeah,
francene:I know. And I love that. Like, honestly, the writers did such a great job. Like they really did, which was great to see. And I think on the same subject of kind of that Like, sexuality piece is when Skipper comes over, unexpected to Carrie, and Oh my god, I know, I feel so bad for him, like, he's so dominated by Miranda, and she's so mean to him. I know. But when he was like, I'm so obsessed with her, and like, When we did it, like, I just don't want to wash afterwards and Carrie's like hand just slips away from him. She's like, I don't want to be like touching. But it's interesting as well. Like, again, hearing it from like a guy's point of view that he was willing to like open up to Carrie and be like, Oh my God, what do I do? Like, I'm like, just
coryne:obsessed. Yeah. Yeah, it's such an interesting thing, like the kind of ying and yang between a Miranda and a Skipper because Miranda is such a dominating personality type, you know, she's so hard nose and like Skipper is like this, like. You know, honestly, he comes off as like a weak, too nice guy, you know what I mean? And like, what she's even doing with him, you know, like, obviously that, like, you're, yeah, she just treats him like a freaking doormat. And I love how she's like, you can wait outside, and Carrie's like, no, come
francene:in, come in, I
coryne:know, I was like, oh my gosh. She's just like, bowling him over, like, it's just, yeah, it's so hard to watch that, for sure.
francene:Like, it really is so,
coryne:yeah. Yeah. Like, theme or storyline of this episode is Charlotte and yeah, playing into the whole power of the sex title and like that, you know, the, how they've woven it into everybody's storyline in this episode, but Charlotte has an opportunity with a. Major artist who has not shown in a gallery for a very long time, and he, of course, comes into her gallery for, I think, like an opening or something and meet Charlotte, this young, gorgeous, you know, curator and is interested in her, which, which. In what we were talking about allows her the opportunity to go to his ranch and see what he's currently working on. And when she gets there,
francene:Oh my god, I died at this part. And she's so innocent and just so curious and just loves art. And it's just all of her facial expressions when he reveals that she's like, Oh, and like, she's just so confused looking, but at the same time, she's like, just goes with it. And I love that about Charlotte, because that is not Charlotte.
coryne:It isn't. And like, I will say, like, such a professional in her career, because like, if that had not been anything to do with her career, She would've ran screaming outta that barn. Like
francene:Yes. Yeah, definitely. Her job role for sure gave her that courage. But yeah, so the artist decided that for this collection it would be of the vagina, but he, oh my God. He calls it, it's like the worst word ever because I know, I know. Do we say it?
coryne:You can say it. I think I've said it. Yeah. He's like, they call it a cunt. And like, it's like how he just refers to it. so many times. It's so, and his wife says it. It's just like, they're throwing it around. Like, it's no big deal. She's like,
francene:oh, oh my God. This is maybe like the second time in my life I've used this word. But. I have to say it. It's when the, the wife, because he says, Oh, I would love to draw yours. Would you let me for this collection, collection, collection? And the wife says, Oh dear, I think you would have a fabulous cunt. And I'm like, Oh, could you imagine like the wife saying
coryne:that? Oh, she's holding a tray of cookies. I know. Oh, I can't imagine. And I can't imagine being propositioned with like, you're going to paint me like that part of me and like offering that to me in front of your little old lady wife in your like barn. Like, oh my God, that was a whole lot. And of all the characters to make handle that.
francene:Charlotte. I know. And I love that too. And I appreciate that one of the things he says about like his collection is all the women he's painted have touched him in some way. And I was like, and the way Charlotte looks at the wife being like, Oh, that's so nice. So if you were in that situation, would you let him paint you?
coryne:I mean, it is as much of a Samantha as I am. It's, I don't think I would, I will say like, If I was that into art, which, you know, love art, but I'm not that into it. Like if, if, if I was in her shoes and I was a curator of a gallery, and this was like a huge get, like to get him at the gallery was like going to make her career. There's a lot of pressure on that. I, I mean, my, my first instinct is absolutely not. There's no freaking way I would let. No, like, I don't, no, I'm good. But if you put all of the parameters of what Charlotte was. In, I get why she did it. I get it.
francene:That is so interesting. I actually thought we would be like the opposites on this. I feel like I would do it. Really? Yeah, I'd probably do it easily. Isn't that crazy? Even if it wasn't to do with my art gallery, I'd be like, sure.
coryne:Yeah. No, I don't think. I mean, maybe. I mean,
francene:it's not a picture. If it was a picture, it'd be different. That's true. As long as I get to pick the colors.
coryne:These are my parameters.
francene:You're like, absolutely not. I'm like, can I pick the color palette?
coryne:If I can pick the palette, we could do this. I don't know. I mean, maybe, like, maybe if it was like, so let's say like an artist that actually know, like, let's say if like Andy Warhol was alive and he. Yes. I think if it was an, like, you know, if it was like that kind of level artists, and I think that he is in this show, but it's just not when we know, or if like Banksy was like doing a series and he was like, can I, I maybe, yes, maybe then I would, but like, just. In that scene with the way they presented that artist and the character that played him and his wife and the barn. I mean, yeah,
francene:it wasn't ideal. I probably still would
coryne:be like, yeah, I'm running. I'm running screaming out of the barn.
francene:Like I'd be like, can mine be the front?
coryne:The best part is that then, and they, they aren't clear that Charlotte agrees to it. And then they cut to her opening and she gets him and their gallery is filled with, and did you notice the camera angles? They were really strategic about not showing like, like a one that wasn't super abstract. Like, if you know, I noticed that like people's heads. We're like in the middle of the pieces of art behind them. Like they're very, in there. Yeah. Yes. That's very true. Yeah. But, but Miranda and Charlotte and Samantha are Miranda and Carrie and Samantha are like dying to know which one is Charlotte. They're like running around like that one, that one. And they're like whispering like school girls and Charlotte's just like taking it all on stride. I
francene:mean, she does, she takes it so well. Then she whispers them. Cause I actually think when I was Riding The Pelton the other day I took I, I took a picture and I just love seeing like their, their shocked expressions. But I was surprised at the color palette for Charlotte for sure.
coryne:very into the color
francene:palette for No, that's why I took a picture. I was like, I don't know. But what would you have
coryne:chosen for a color palette?
francene:I would want greens, and honestly, personally, I would like some gold in it. with some sparkle. I feel it might have gone like away with like his theme maybe. But no, I, I love that. And I loved cause we spoke about this before, how like Charlotte hasn't had as much. Airtime, and I think from the little snippets we've had, like, we really see her, like, innocent, like, about the anal thing, and, and, and other things just being, like, a true romantic, that now we get to see her in a situation where you're like, oh, damn, good for you for, like, doing something like that, that's so, that's a very Samantha
coryne:thing. And yes, and it's very out of her, like, character zone and it's one of the, one of the facts about sex in the city that I love that second to Samantha, you know, Charlotte has more than most sexual partners in the show. Yes, no way. Yes, which it always blows everybody's mind because of how she presents. But like she has sex with with that. She's only second to Samantha that she has sex with the most people in the show. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I think you see her naked way more than you see Carrie Miranda naked. Oh, my lights just turned
francene:off. Well, that's true. Because I remember reading That Carrie had it specifically written into her agreement, no nude scenes, whereas the other girls were a lot more open to
coryne:it. Well, because Carrie was a bigger actress at that, where Sarah Jessica Parker was at that point. So she probably had, she was, she was the lead character. So she probably had more play, but then that makes me think, do we ever see her naked in
francene:the No, I don't think we ever have. And even, even some of her like sex scenes as we go on, they typically will cut out versus, I mean, Miranda, Charlotte, Charlotte and Samantha. Samantha, we see like everything.
coryne:All of her. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, now that you're saying that I'm definitely you're right that that we never like see her boobs. I mean, she wears some outfits where you can basically see them, but
francene:yes, well, and also one of my last like observations, like when we were kind of talking about like the anal scene is what's always interesting about Carrie and maybe people will notice it now is like sometimes she Like doesn't necessarily have an opinion, you know, yeah, she's like facilitates or, you know, we'll make a funny comment, but you see the extremeness typically coming from like Samantha, Charlotte and
coryne:Miranda. Yeah, that is true. That's what I've always felt about those four characters is like Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte are kind of an extreme personality trait and Carrie was always like the blend of the three of them. Yes.
francene:Yeah. Yeah. Which I think is why a lot of people want to think they're Carrie. Yeah. For
coryne:in reality. Like the, like the sum of all the parts, essentially.
francene:Yeah, the good, the good blend. You want to be the good blend. A little bit of each
coryne:of them.
francene:All right. Well, I think that's a wrap for this episode. And the next episode, episode six is called secret sex.
coryne:Oh, I love it. We're just going down the line of like controversial
francene:subjects. I know. I love it. And I instantly the minute I just googled that title, because I was saying to Corinne, I'm really trying to not. Continue to watch the episodes and really do it as live as I can But I just looked it up and I was like, oh, this one's a good one, too. You remembered it Oh, I love
coryne:it. They're all good ones for sure. Yeah
francene:But we'll see you next
coryne:time later