When she discovers that Big is dating other women, Carrie realizes that she desires a monogamous relationship with him. In the meantime, Samantha I love the start of this episode is having trouble being monogamous with her realtors. Charlotte dislikes the sexual desires of her new boyfriend, and Miranda confronts jealousy when she runs into because they have it Skipper with his new girlfriend from Vogue.
join Coryne & Francene as we dive into episode 7 of season 1 SATC!
When she discovers that Big is dating other women, Carrie realizes that she desires a monogamous relationship with him. In the meantime, Samantha I love the start of this episode is having trouble being monogamous with her realtors. Charlotte dislikes the sexual desires of her new boyfriend, and Miranda confronts jealousy when she runs into because they have it Skipper with his new girlfriend from Vogue.
join Coryne & Francene as we dive into episode 7 of season 1 SATC!
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francene:No. Fuck. Fuck. What is it?
coryne:Mono aHUS mono myth. Yes. Monogamous.
francene:I'm just gonna say it like an idiot though. Monogenist
coryne:I love that. You can't say That's hilarious. Why did I not say it
francene:Monogamous? What do you call it when
coryne:you're monogamist monogamist? No, monogamous. Monogamous. Monogamous. Now we've said it so many times it doesn't sound right. What do you call it when you're in a committed long term relationship and you're not having sex with other people? Monogamy. Now, I can't even say it, monogamous, monogamy, monogamy,
francene:monogamy. There you go. Sounds like I'm an avatar.
coryne:Monogamy. And then monogamous. Monogamous. Oh my god. Now you got me saying it wrong. Monogamous. Monogamous. Monogamous relationship. Now this word doesn't even sound right. This is, this is,
francene:this is how we're kicking off season one, episode seven, the monogamous. Is
coryne:that right? No, it's monogamous. Monogamous. Closer. Closer. This is not translated to the Queen's English? That's hilarious. I don't know.
francene:What do we say? I guess I've maybe never
coryne:That's funny, considering you've been
francene:in a
coryne:non fictive relationship for a while, bitch.
francene:Let me tell you, last year was the first time I was able to say anonymous. Huh. That took me so frickin long. So I can hear the similarity in those words. Versus
coryne:Pacific. A lot of people have trouble with that one. I love the place that is, it's a sushi place near my house or poke place and it's called B Pacific. Cracks me up because that was one of my favorite things to correct, mostly my brother about as young adults that he would say specifically. Yeah, Aaron
francene:gets so fucked off when people use the wrong term.
coryne:Atlantically, I think, then.
francene:Yeah, that's why I learned it because I remember one day Aaron was like, Bitching about it, bitching about someone at work that couldn't say it, and I was like, wait, what? And he was like, it's not And I was like, fuck, it's specific. Oh my god, I can't say no. Yes. And it made me make a point of being able to say that, so now I'm 35, I can say anonymous, specific, but I cannot say monogamous. Did I say it?
coryne:Monogamous? Monogamous. That is funny. So, that is one of my favorite little bitchy things to do. So, like, my mom was an educator, like, you know, elementary school teacher and librarian. And she had a degree in English. Like, so, like, grammar and spelling. Big things in my household. So I honest that like, I, I love to in my head, correct people's grammar. Like I love to do it.
francene:And do you do it like
coryne:out loud? Or it comes out all the time. It depends on like, I would say in my twenties, I did it way more where like, I was way more like, In people's face and now
francene:Now you're silent. I dunno if you're just around, I probably just in your head, you're like, you're fucking
coryne:dumb. You're for real. Like I was, I was a big fan of that when I was younger. I think now I'm maybe just like around less people or the people that I'm around are clients or potential clients, more educate. So I'm not gonna, maybe I just have more of a filter in some social circles. older. Maybe I drink less vodka. I don't know what it is.
francene:Yeah, I used to work with someone and oh my god, he used to get so annoyed with me because especially if I'm over text, you know, if it's like they're versus they are. Yes. Oh my god, I would always get it wrong and I know he knew what I meant, but he would always come back and correct me on it. Always. He would do, he would do a little star and be like, they are, or they're. And I'd be like, whatever. Like, I know you know what I
coryne:meant. That's bitchy. That's bitchy. No, I, I would only do that to people I didn't like. And then I would do it ad nauseum like this. Oh, I should maybe
francene:message him and be like, did you just never
coryne:like me? I love, yeah, he's probably like, some people are freaking. I had one friend for a long time who I had to break up with, but I have very fond memories of our friendship because she is hilarious. And she was that bitch. Who did you break up with? We broke up like three times and I had to let it stick. But she was that bitch that like, literally like you could be like voice texting and, and I fucking, I am a stickler on my grammar. Like I'm the person who capitalizes everything and punctuates it the right way. I put commas. I do all the things like again, It was ingrained in me as a child and like, I could be like speech to texting or like in my car and it would do the there, there, there thing wrong or like another one of, you know, our crazy ass English words that sound the same in six different ways. And every fucking time before I could even correct it, she would just like had just like dig it in and I'm like, bitch, you know, I know. But also
francene:it's like, you know what I mean? Who cares? And
coryne:like, we're having like a, we're having a discussion about like, blowjobs. Like, I know that I have the
francene:grammar correct. They are. We're talking about
coryne:the time you put yourself in a club three nights ago. Like, I don't know that it matters. Time and a place, bitch. Time and a place. Oh my God. All right, so listen. Oh my God, we digress. The name of this. Oh, that's so funny. Monogamous, and we've learned that Francine struggles with anonymous, and
francene:I need to check all these tiles moving forward. I'm like, they need to stop being this hard Okay, so I love the start of this episode. Yeah, because they have it where. Big and Carrie are just going around New York, just looking so romantic and everything's so lovey and amazing. And they're in this little bubble.
coryne:Bubble. And honestly, like, I for, I was like, I forgot that they had like these moments where they were just like, The happy moment. There's just no, yes, they were like in the bubble and like, Yes. In those beginning stages of love. And I just was like, so just like, Oh, I know.
francene:I love, I love seeing it. And I, it cracked me up to that. Like Miranda calls her and she's like, Hey, I'm looking for Carrie there. You're there.
coryne:No, I love that she gets the phone call from the best friend, who's like, Oh, you, you still exist. Yeah. Which I think we've all been guilty of at one point or another in a new relationship. Where like, go from, especially when you're younger and like you're in your pod, and like you party together and you brunch together, and you sleep over at each other's houses, and you do, you know, dog walks and like you do all your things together. And then one of you Gets a person and like, it's like, just like that, like, I can't even do it quick enough. You're like,
francene:wait, where are they?
coryne:What the fuck? And I know I've been guilty of it for sure. So, I definitely felt Carrie's pain. And Miranda's. Of like, oh shit. Well, and
francene:I also think, I was talking to Aaron about this. Like, we, No, not that we speak about this a lot, but I think because we've been together so long, I see this more with males. Like, the minute they get, like, a girl, it's like, boom, you don't see them for, like, months. And we, we always talk about the fact that, like, when the guy gets with the girl, they spend more time with the girl's friends versus the guy's friends. True. We've had multiple conversations on that, on like the best way to, like, we always try and kind of keep it equal, you know what I mean? And make sure that well, I mean, again, we've been together so long that it's not exactly in like the honeymoon season anymore. It's not the first year. But yeah, we, I, we always notice it more with guys than girls.
coryne:It's probably also because I feel like, you know, girls, like, even if we fall into the bubble, we still need to talk to our girlfriends about every detail of our relationship and get, like, 12 people's opinions on it. So even if we're not seeing each other because we're spending all our time, we're probably still, like, Texting, calling, talking, but like in those moments when you're alone of like you did this, what do you think this means? Like all the things we talk about. So maybe that's why I also think this is like the same phenomena that happens with like, if as a mother, if you have boys, it's one of the reasons why I only wanted a girl because like, if you boys, you lose your boys one Same. Same.
francene:I was like, you're not going anywhere, Luna. You're stuck by me. Yes. I, I 100 percent agree with that. Like the moms are always like, there's always that need and always that natural closeness. Yeah.
coryne:Like, that's the thing. Like my mom has even said it. So like my bro, so my brother and I are super tight and me and my mom and my brother were very close, like for our, my entire childhood and then like in early adulthood, very, very close. And my sister in law who I introduced to my brother and who I adore, she's a wonderful, wonderful person. But like my brother and sister in law had my niece and nephew. ages before I had my daughter. And so it was something that I watched with my mom, where it's just like, as a woman, like you're going to call your mom, like anything, you know what I mean? Like if you have a good relationship with your mom, like any struggle you have, even before kids, but like, especially with kids, like you are going to call your mom for like, I don't know. I know.
francene:Oh, you're like, mom, is this supposed
coryne:to happen? Yeah. Right. And I watched my mom definitely like see that with my niece and nephew who were like, you know, the first grandkids and like, we were also close to them, but still like, there was that disconnect. And then I had my daughter and like, of course, like my mom was my go to, like my mom was my person, like my, and she got to, you know, be maybe too involved with my daughter, but whatever. It's fine. But like that is, like a very different experience being. You know, my daughter versus, so it's, it's a similar phenomenon, but you know, it's, I think it says something more about men than it does about us.
francene:Yeah, I think so. And then so Miranda wants to meet oh my God, wait, this was another note that I wrote down because now I'm clocking onto it. So Miranda wanted to meet but Carrie just talks about herself and Mr. Big. But they do
coryne:make a plan. I'm going to take it for Carrie. Okay. They do make a plan to meet like she's like, but I love how she's like, let's do, let's do dinner tomorrow. Big's busy anyway, like it's fine. Yes!
francene:Oh my God, I love that. And they were like, oh, okay,
coryne:Big's busy. I do love that Kari gets off the phone and she's like, Oh my God, I'm totally, I'm being one of those women. And she's like, I've committed to the couple then. Like, I have ditched my girlfriends for my new relations. Like, she recognizes it within herself. Yes. It's something we're all guilty of, but then cut to, they go to dinner the next night, the four girls. And that's a good moment of like, it all comes back to Carrie. Like, you know, they're just like, you know, everything about her and big, but she does do a good job. She's like, so what's been going on? And they're like, she
francene:really doesn't care, but yes, she does. She's like, tell me what's going on. And Miranda's like, oh my God, big merger. Samantha's looking to move apartments and then Charlotte. Matt, a new guy with a dog. And I even wrote down his name, Michael Conway. I was like, what a strong name. That's true.
coryne:It's
francene:very, so many times. I was like, Michael Conway, I'm going to write
coryne:this down. American white man name. That is that's so funny that she wrote down the man's name. Cause for some reason I can remember all the women's names, like all the sub character. Right. That's why I'm
francene:trying to do better. Cause I'm like,
coryne:how are you managing this? No, but I can't remember any of the guy's names. I can remember all the girls names. I'm here. Yeah. Michael,
francene:Michael Conway. And I love that they, as Charlotte is talking about it, they then cut to his plays and they're playing the blowjob Tug of War, whereas he's pushing her head and there's nothing worse than a guy pushing your head. Like, I'm sorry. I feel like that is the best Biggest turn, the minute someone, well not someone, the minute a guy pushes your head, you're like, I'm
coryne:sorry, I'm out. Yeah, no, agreed. Like that's so classless. And like, I
francene:hate it. I actually
coryne:hate it. I've only had that happen to me like two times ever. And both times I was like, what, what world, what year do you think this is? Like, what are you doing right now? Like, no, like nobody, that's bad. That's just,
francene:you know, the worst. I've literally had that happen. Obviously. Pretty a very long time ago, I've had that happen where I was, yeah, 100 years ago, where I was like going there anyway, and they still push and I was like, sir, I'm like, I am like, what more do you want from me? I'm going to
coryne:punch you in the face now. It's
francene:so rude. It is the rudest thing. It's such a turnoff.
coryne:In our now, you know, moment in time of day. Yeah. It's still
francene:that stuff. Do they, well, we do a poll. It is the worst. I'm sorry. Any guy listening to this, don't do that. Do it. Maybe you need to restrain
coryne:yourself. Yeah. I feel like they text beforehand and they're like, Hey, do you want to be Jay? Yeah. It's also so like, I understand. I get it. Like, I get that oral sex for men is like a different. level of pleasure. I feel like that it is for women. I think honestly, because of like just the trajectory of sexuality and the, in the divide between like how that's presented to us as genders in society. Like I get why, like I understand why it's such a big deal to them and also because of the You need to calm the fuck down. Okay, like obviously we're making out, obviously we're into each other, like give it a second. Like just chill. I
francene:know.
coryne:When you were 16 and you were an idiot, maybe, but these are like 30 year olds. Yes, I
francene:agree. I think this is a very like, Yes, I, I link it to a very immature move. And then also just like, I don't know, I'm probably looking too much into it. But you also get the sense of like, that's all you care about is like your pleasure. You're like, Oh, just get down there.
coryne:Yeah. Were you also weirded out by how intense the dog was?
francene:Like right
coryne:there. I was like, I
francene:don't, I can't when there's the dog in the room, also fair in the dog, like sure. The dog's like, what are you doing to my owner? Yeah.
coryne:Like that. Yeah. Yeah.
francene:She's calling out.
coryne:She's crying. What is wrong with her? I you know, I've had a dog my whole adult life, and I'm very much a dog lover. And I, like, in the room, it's fine. I would say all my dogs until Sprinkle were real chill and, like, never, it never was a thing. Sprinkle Like you had to lock her out of the room or she was going to like, get up in the bed with you. Like it was a whole,
francene:no, threesome with a dog. You're like, this is not, this is too close.
coryne:We have a puppy who's like four months old now. And that's like, was one of my things was like, she's, No, she does not sleep in our bed at night. She's going to learn how to be happy in that crate or she can sleep across in this bed. Like I don't even want her in my bedroom. I don't want there to ever be. No, like I'm not doing it.
francene:Yeah. I don't, I don't need the additional eyes like watching, because let's be honest, like a lot of dogs also have the face of like, they have a really like sad face sometimes that you're like, Oh, and then you're like,
coryne:So no, I don't need, I don't need that. That's not cute. That's not sexy. None of that is sexy. So I love that Charlotte like fins it off. And then, you know, that night at dinner at this nice restaurant, the conversation completely devolves to like the blow job talk. And I love it. Oh, so good. It's like
francene:the best discussion around is like, I only give head to get
coryne:head. And Samantha's like, what are you talking about? It's the best thing ever. And like, they're having the whole conversation, which I feel like we've all had with our girlfriends at some point of like, as a woman that you actually enjoy it, you know? And like, obviously Charlotte does not. And she like talks about, she has a gag reflex and it makes her want to throw up. Like she's such a freaking princess and Carrie's like, I mean, with the right person, like I could, it's, I love how she says, she's like, I don't, I don't want to always order it, but like, you know, if it's on the menu, I'm going to pick it sometimes, like, you know, it's mix it up. I appreciate it. Of course, Samantha's like great. And Samantha says a thing that I have. You're in such a position of power. Yes.
francene:I agree. Yes. I agree with that. I think that's where it's such a
coryne:turn on. It's enjoyable. Yes. For a woman, it is such a position of power. For sure. I also, you know, hear Miranda on like the, give it to get it thing. But like, I don't know. Like I, I, I don't know. You I could, whatever, I don't need, it's not tit for tat, like, I feel like if I want to do it, it's cause I want to be in that position of like, You know, yeah, same hour of it in the yeah.
francene:Yeah, I'm very much team Samantha on this. This one. Yeah, I have to agree. Yeah. Yeah, go Samantha. That's what we need to do like through this. We're like we team Samantha or team and Charlotte, but you know what else I love about Charlotte is Okay, so in that moment where someone's pushing your head and say you are like Charlotte, Charlotte, and you don't like it, typically you would probably then just make a little excuse or, you know, you'd kiss or, you know, you, you touch or whatever. I feel like you would do a good, like, distraction. But what I love about Charlotte is just the fact that she immediately says she hates it. Like she physically says, I hate doing it. And the guy is like, What?
coryne:This is the second, this is after that discussion, but yes, I love that she is like, like, I feel like a good for her and like a good for HBO for showing it this way, because I am positive that most instances of that with women, women just do it to like, Yeah. And because they don't want to, like, lose the guy over it or they, like, feel it's their obligation or like all the things that are put on us as women. I love that they showed Charlotte just being like, nah.
francene:Yeah, literally she's like, no, I can't. I can't do it.
coryne:But like ever.
francene:Yeah, I know. I feel like that's strong. Charlotte,
coryne:Charlotte, for sure. Like, I feel like it's like a I don't know what I mean to each their own, whatever, like their own. But I do think that. She, the guy's response to it, well, like, y'all, pardon us guys, this is like 9. 30 at night and we're moms, calm down. This dude, though, like, his response when she says that, like, what a fucking asshole. Like, he's not like Well, you know, like, we could figure out a way that, like, you could enjoy it, like, let's ease into this, like, let's find a way to compromise about it. He says, this fucker, I wrote it down too. I'm getting a lot of blowjobs, and I hope you're there for it. What?
francene:Like, And, and doesn't he also say Will you at least lick my balls? Yeah. And I'm like, yo, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, like, Yeah. I'm like, I'm good with that. Would you at least like my balls? I'm like, I'm pretty sure if I don't want to do that. I'm not
coryne:going to lick your balls. Yeah, I definitely don't want to do that. Like, that's like, I feel like that's like a next level.
francene:I, honestly, I agree.
coryne:Like, you don't want to give me a blowjob, but can we do anal? Like, come on. That's not the same conversation, sir. Like, calm down. And I love that they keep presenting Charlotte with these guys that like she likes, like they tick all the boxes, but they like are pushing her sexual envelope past her comfort level. Like, no, I'm not doing that.
francene:And then so yeah, you're right. We did. I definitely skipped on that bit. So now we've covered the Charlotte situation. So then when they're out, they're walking through the restaurant and Carrie sees big. And Carrie just looks freaking stunning like that blue dress. Oh my gosh, and it's so like tight against her figure
coryne:I love I love where her hair is in this moment. Like it's good. It's good. Carrie Bradshaw.
francene:Yeah, she looks
coryne:impeccable Like she looks this but she's like a little tiny figure like a lego. She's so short and tight like she looks yes
francene:She really does. Yeah, and then so she sees him and it's like oh, hey girls just Give me a second. I'm just going to go say hi. And I
coryne:love how she like makes it a scribe, like she's not at all like, She's like, oh my god, he's here. Oh my god. Yes. So comfortable.
francene:So comfy. Yeah, like, oh, I just saw him yesterday. Yeah, yeah. And then, so as she goes up to him, she realizes that he's On a date. So she's like, Oh, hey, and to be fair, she, she takes it well by pulling him out of the situation in a way,
coryne:which would have been my booze. Yeah,
francene:yeah, I know. She took that very well. And you know what I also wrote down? And the women of the day, Julia woods. What an also strong name. Yeah, saying Julia woods. I'm like,
coryne:Oh, that's a good name. And she's also a stunning woman, you know, beautiful and, but I do love it. Carrie's like
francene:and so different to Carrie
coryne:as well. Yeah, very different look and, and big also to his credit is like, yeah, like he's like sorta. He doesn't act awkward about it. Like he's not like, he like doesn't seem caught, you know, which does like speak to like how much he thought it was totally fine. Like that they just were at that monogamous place, you know? Yeah. Like very interesting. Anyway, so she, she does take it as tried. The way she talks to him is really put together. However, you can see it's like boiling underneath. Oh yeah.
francene:She's stunning. And I should know, because frankly, she stunned me. Yeah,
coryne:what I love that she's like, well, have a good night. And she's like, pounds him on the chest. She's like, yeah, yeah. Like you, yeah, she's definitely like boiling. And so like he, like, you know, they have their little conversation and she, she said to him, she's like, I'm sorry, are you on a date? And he's like kind of. And she's like, right. Like, yeah. For what an encounter I she I would have lost my shit.
francene:I'm so upset I never understand this and this is why I could never date in like now I just don't I I don't know. I don't understand if I like someone I like someone that's all like I care But i'm just not in I don't know. I just can't see anything else and I just never understand plus i'm like How have you got time? like Even just, I don't even, I think I'd be exhausted like trying to date multiple people at the same
coryne:time. Yeah. Well, the other thing too is like, because I've watched the episodes like close together, I immediately flashed back to wait, we just finished the last episode with like this tender moment between the two of them where she'd already freaked out and he like comforts her and she's like, you know, is there something real here? And he's like, you know, it is noncommittal the way. Says it, but like babe,
francene:I don't know. I'm going out with Julia Woods next week. Could could be
coryne:there, too Feeling that it's like serious between the two of them and then you know that whole episode is about like how much time they're spending together Anyway, it was very disappointed and big. I was very I mean, I knew it was coming and at the same time I was like you but why you got don't do it to her like that big. Come on now. I wonder
francene:You know I'm just having a thought that I wonder so when I first started dating Aaron and we, we were both still young, but he was a little bit older than me. I like pursued him a lot and he was pretty dismissive, like initially and when we spoke about it afterwards, like when he finally kind of went on a date with him, cause I made But when we finally went on a date. We spoke about it, like, maybe a couple of weeks later, maybe a month later, and he was like, I just wanted to make sure you were serious. Like I just didn't want it. And I think he'd maybe dated whatever his situation was, but you do like, you have to wonder, like from Biggs perspective, he's, He's older, like significantly older, he's clearly in like a high pressured role and you wonder that he sees Carrie and she is a little, you know, has her moments, that if he's like, I don't know, she's then serious. And I
coryne:mean, she, I mean, look back at the initial episodes where like, he walks into the bar and she's like, oh, with the guy and like, she definitely had some flighty moments and like, when she came to the dinner and he had his friend there and like, she just bounced, you know, so I could see that you want to get big. You know a lot of benefit of the doubt
francene:Yeah, I mean not ideal he was literally dating going
coryne:out Yeah, she she has like her girlfriends to like walk right back over to and I loved it literally like She doesn't even have to say anything and they're like, oh They're like, this is bull. Yeah, they all
francene:like Storm out the door, which I love. Yeah.
coryne:The headline storyline of this episode.'cause like, so of course they're like dealing with, you know, like monogamy in everyone's, you know different like relationships or whatever. And the, I love the, the storyline with Samantha who's obsessed with looking in for this apartment. And she can't be faithful to her real estate agent. I know. Oh my God. I love that too. Love it. And so of course she's got the bulldog female real estate agent. And the, in the beginning of the episode, the real estate agent shows her like a fabulous apartment that's, she is out of her price range. But she's like, look, I just want to show you the best of the best. And she's like, all I ask is you don't work with anyone else. And Samantha's like, of course, absolutely. And then she's totally working with another real estate agent. Who's a hot ass dude who she's nailing in every one of them.
francene:I know. I love that. And then she walks.
coryne:Oh, at the end of the episode. Oh, my God. So she, he, he shows her, because this is totally New York real estate, but like he shows her an apartment that is, that went on the market at midnight and like, they're there. That's very
francene:light, isn't it? But
coryne:if you're fucking the guy, like, Yeah, no, that's, that's true. So it's like they're there at 1201 on the night of the listing and it's like the perfect apartment is exactly what she wants. She's so excited. And so they're going to do it. And he like starts to take her dress off. And like the other real estate agent walks in with like a couple that she's showing the apartment to hilarious that scene. Oh my. And he holds her boobs. Yes, her boobs looked amazing in that scene, I was like, what
francene:was that, lady? I know. Yeah, she looks great. Her body. Oof. I know. Even
coryne:now. great body. Yeah, even now. It looks great. Yeah, like she, yeah. Anyway, that was, that was a hilarious Samantha storyline that was going on, you know, through the recording. At the same time, which I thought was so funny.
francene:Yes. And the one I love about
coryne:Miranda. Oh, God, I can't even wait. I knew you were gonna be like, Oh, this one's
francene:so freaking good. So when she's with Miranda. So they're, they're having dinner, right? I think they're having dinner outside and they're chit chatting away. Obviously Carrie's speaking about Mr. Big, which we will get on to, but then they see Skipper. Oh, I love that Skipper's back with Allison. Allison, who is a folk designer, designer relations. Yeah. She's beautiful. Beautiful. And they seem so cute together in my notes. I was like, so cute. And then immediately, Miranda's interested in him. So she calls him that night. And honestly, this is another scene that I was like, what the fuck? So Skipper is then fucking Allison. The phone rings. And what does he do? He picks it up and then,
coryne:wait, he, he lets the machine gets it. Oh, that's right. Miranda's voice. And then like,
francene:holy shit. They're still doing it. And
coryne:then doing it. And like, Oh my, and Miranda's on the other line. And she very noncommittally is like, it was so great to see you. And he's like, I can't really talk right now. She's like, Oh, it's fine. It's fine. I just wanted to tell you, like, you look great and we should get together. And he's like, really? Like on, literally inside of this woman. That is
francene:so bad. I, I'm also surprised that Allison wasn't like, Hey, what are you doing? Like, get off the phone. Like she just doesn't say it. Like, very well to not say anything, but that is so rude. Oh, so any guys listening don't ever do that. That is a no, no,
coryne:please. Don't like that was bad on so many levels. And then like, literally get something from Miranda. Miranda has very, very nonchalantly said, we should just like have a drink except with the girl. I know literally inside of her and the girl to her credit, she's like, you're breaking up with me while you're still inside of me. Like, what the fuck? Like, holy shit. Crazy. And then cut to, they obviously go out and they end up hooking, like they're together in someone's bed, like laying on each other. And he's like back to typical Skipper where he's like, can you just go like this forever? And she's like, no, for a few more minutes, I
francene:don't time my schedule.
coryne:Yeah. And then he tells her it sucks for that girl. Then Skipper tells Miranda. The, the, like, sequence of events of your Which, why would
francene:he tell her that? Why
coryne:would you do that? Like, why would you Because then, instantly, Miranda's turned off again. Instantly.
francene:Like And she's like, what? Skipper? Like, we were just hooking up, and I could tell. I was like, oh, Skipper, you just walked away from Allison, who worked at Vogue, and was awesome.
coryne:Gorgeous and like, really actually. And actually
francene:liked you. Yeah.
coryne:Dumbass. Like that's what you get. That's what you freaking get. I
francene:don't think we see Skipper again, do we? I
coryne:think that's it. I think that's it. I could be wrong, but I think that that's the last episode that he's in. Oh, poor
francene:Skipper. I wonder what happens to him. Hopefully we'll get him on the pod. I
coryne:mean, we really love, we need like a, we need a reunion tour of all these random men. Season one, all these friends, you imagine all, Oh
francene:my God, the pinnacle would be Harvey Specter. Well, I feel like we'll come, we'll come to you.
coryne:Totally unrelated reason to speaking of which this is totally unrelated and a complete Harvey Specter side of this podcast. But did you see that T Mobile has got him and Mike in all their commercials now? No. So on the, no, I didn't see that. Okay, so on the Super, at the Super Bowl, T Mobile did this whole launch of this new magenta, what, I don't know what it is, which is hilarious, because I call my daughter magenta, and so like, it's so funny, it's like you're trying to get your magenta on, and I'm like, it's, but anyway, they had a bunch of stars, like Beyonce's one of, no, Beyonce's at the horizon. Anyway, there's a bunch of stars that are with T Mobile for this, like, new campaign, but Harvey Specter and Mike are two of them. I
francene:know. I need to like Google it. I love
coryne:them. Oh, I did. I know. Suits are so fucking good. And they're in the suits. And
francene:I'm just like That could be the next pod.
coryne:Yes. Yeah. We'll do a suits pod. I just need Oh god, I have so many opinions on suits. I just see more of Harvey Specter and Mike in suits just running around. That's great. Just like,
francene:just keep Same. Just everything is just so fucking dramatic. And then Harvey always just comes out. Mike Ross, I'm like, oh, you just remember everything.
coryne:I know. Just love it. Anyway,
francene:Anyway, so, okay, so then back to you, Carrie. So she ends up going out with Stanford, right? And then they bumped to one of Stanford's friend who's Jared, Jared.
coryne:I'm gonna trust you on that. He's a guy so I don't remember his name.
francene:Yeah, and actually I do have a fun fact about him. I know what it is. Yeah, he comes back as her boyfriend in like season four. Same character or just the same actor? No, different character but same actor. Do you know who that actor is? It's Justin, isn't he the one that dated
coryne:Jennifer Aniston? He was married to Jennifer Aniston for a couple years. That's
francene:right. Yes. Justin Theroux.
coryne:That's it. Yeah. He, when I saw him, when I, I was like, wait, is that, he's so young. He's so young. And I was like, that's him. Like that's Jennifer Aniston's future husband. He also was in he played a really good villain in like a Charlie's angels movie or something that I always like remember that character in my head. But anyway, he's very hot. He's a, he's a under 30. Like he made some lists of like the top 30 under. Something in New York. And so I also thought that was funny that he's like clearly much younger than Kerry, but he's a writer and he's very Kerry. So he tells Stanford and Kerry that the, the, whatever the list he was on, I think it was Bo, was he in a list in Vogue? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. That they're doing a party for these, you know, 30 under 30. And he's like, I'm going to put y'all on the list. You'll be there. Right. Kerry, like he's, you know, he wants to see her. And so Kerry, you know, Is she's, she's gracious and a little like she's receptive to it because she's obviously like dealing with the blow that big is dating other people essentially. And but she goes home from that. And she's, she's like, in her monologue saying, like, that like like she used to get a, a thrill from somebody hitting on her in their 15 minutes of fame. That's what she says. Yeah, that's right. And this is just, it just feels exhausting. And I was like, oh, I, I feel that girl, I feel that I'm like,
francene:I hate that. I could, I know. I'm like dunno if anyone comes on to me, but I will take it
coryne:But no, I like, I know. Or it's like, I just don't want to be in the scene anymore. Like, I'm just not even interested in like, dealing with this, you know, like the effort it requires for sure. And then she goes to, this was one of my, this was one of the moments with like, she goes to lunch with Miranda and they're like, you know, dissecting the what's going on with Big. And it's like so like when she has a monologue where she like, again, runs through like an entire trajectory of the narrative in her head. And I was just like, Whoa, Miranda's just like eating your spaghetti. And she's like, Yeah,
francene:yeah, I know. It is.
coryne:So true. Yeah. Not even worried about
francene:it. And then Carrie then goes to The party with big and honestly, this party seems very pretentious. I will say like, Oh, that's right. Remember? Yeah. And the girl that like comes up and kisses him and she's like that's Julia. Was it? No. Yeah. Yeah. And then she says, Oh yeah, she kisses him on the mouth. Yes, I wrote that note down. I was like, that's fucking weird. And then she says you still have my passport. And I was like, that's also fucking weird. I've
coryne:been trying to call you. And I almost appreciated, like, well, at least this chick's been trying to call me. She's obviously not returning your calls. Yeah,
francene:that's true. She hasn't heard from him. But I was like, yeah, I don't know. That part, just in general, it just seems a little bit, like, stuck up for me. And it just didn't fit. It just didn't fit. Carrie, I feel like already, even if they were okay, I still feel she would have not felt good at that party.
coryne:Well, again, it's like a, these like early glimpses into Big's life, independent of Carrie. And it's like a very different scene, you know, like, Different kind of people that like he's around and like, obviously is very superficial relationships, even with the men that you see, because like, they need to, he's like, let's find, is it Brad? Who's the host? I can't remember his name. Max. He's like, yeah, let's find Max. Let's find Max. Like, he's trying to introduce her to the host of the party and like, He introduces her or like, it's like, Oh, Hey, and like,
francene:you know, Julia. So good to see you. I
coryne:want to introduce you to someone who's really special. And yeah, that's right. You must be Julia. And yeah,
francene:that's right. Oh, I know. I died
coryne:inside. You know, big wanted to crawl into his own self. Like, Oh, my bad. Like. And then she's like, no, no. And, and it big does like, I love that he calls her very special. And there's like this second where her face is like, and then he like, the dude calls her. Yeah. And then Carrie again, in real hardcore Carrie fashion, I'm again, really proud of her that she immediately is like, fuck this. Like I'm done. And like walks. From him. And he's just like, you know, how many people are you dating? Like, this is fucking bullshit. Like what the hell? And he totally does the guy thing of like, can we just enjoy that party? Can't we just,
francene:Or he's like, what do you want from me? It's like just date me. I don't know. It's pretty fucking
coryne:simple. Yeah. Like just don't be a sleazy bastard. Obviously that's, that's too much. That was too much to ask for. Love me. And only me forever. Like it's true. You gotta end it. It is that like, that age old kind of parallel between like, what the woman's expectations are at that point in a relationship versus like
francene:Yes, immediately. Yeah, the minute we clock eyes, I'm like, oof, we're getting married, you're gonna love me, this is it. And they're like, Oh, I like her eyes.
coryne:Yeah, she's cute. Like, that's entertaining. Like, that's, I know, we're so perfect. It's such a fun, fun joke, Jesus. Fun joke. That was fun. Thanks for doing that too. It was like,
francene:So then, so she basically then like, storms out and she goes to the party with that guy. Yes. I like the other side of town or whatever and they're very love him. Yeah, that's right. I love Sanford and they're like very Like flirty, but it's because she's annoyed at big and I think she has like a monologue like saying that right?
coryne:Well, and she's trying to make herself feel better, I think, and she's like, but I will say like in the, you know, the way they're showing it, like they're getting along swimmingly and like he's interesting and he's a writer and he's really good looking and like, you know, he's ticking some of the boxes and he basically says to her like, you know, do you want to come home with me? Like he gets her a drink as soon as she gets there. Yeah, that's right. Very attentive. I did clock that when he was like, can I get you a drink? And she's like, cosmopolitan. Of course, every time she says, but then this is the part that just like makes me laugh because there's no way in hell I would ever have done this. And I appreciate it for her that the moment he's like, you should come back to my house and me, she's like. Hang on one second. And she literally phones straight to a phone. I know it's big. And it's like, there's this hot guy who wants to take me home. I just wanted to know if you had a problem with that. Like,
francene:just like, Oh, I know. And then she's like, say hi, Jared. And he's like,
coryne:hi. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, hi, Jared. Like it's like, gosh, yes. Like that host. And I will say Well, immature on Carrie's
francene:part so immature, but also I think this is where and like one of the things I wrote is I feel big is too mature for this. Like, I'm like, how has he got time for this shit? And but he what's interesting to is like, again, just his stature and he was at the other party and you know, whatever else he's come home. He's probably like, oh, fucking hell. Like, here's this like two in the
coryne:morning. She said like two in the morning. When she calls it, but this is, so this is building to one of my very, very favorite lines that I have used more times than I really want to admit in my life. Like, it's, this is one of the quintessential moments of sex in the city that like, I just love it. So it does seem immature for big to be dealing with. It is a very interesting moment. And to be fair, like this is the third time she's kind of flipped her shit on him. Yes.
francene:Not without justification. In a matter of weeks.
coryne:Yes! Like, how long has it been that we've been dating? And so, like, he then, he's like, just come here. Just come here. Which is a typical fucking guy thing to say, and 100 percent I would have just gone there. But good for
francene:her. I know. Same. Same. I would have been like, fine, I'm just gonna come over. And she's like, no. You come here. And then she just, like, hangs up. And
coryne:he's like, well, where are you? And she says where he's at. And he just like, boom. And again, this is another like pre cell phone. This shit wouldn't happen now. I
francene:would feel so anxious because firstly, I'm like, did he hear it? Was I here? So then she's waiting outside, which turns out she's actually waiting at the back entrance. And then he's then been waiting at the front. front entrance. So by the time he gets there, which also to Big's credit, knowing the time, I'm surprised he wasn't more like fucked off and he's wearing a suit with his tie.
coryne:It was like you got, you were in Jommies and you put your suit back on and it's three in the morning. You're still waiting around for this chick. But anyway, they, he, they find each other and they have this moment of like, you were at the front. No, you were at the front. And I do love that Carrie like holds her line on this and she gives him this little head tilt of like, You want to keep arguing about that? And he just shuts down. And I'm like, good on you. And then she says, he's like, you got me here. It's three in the morning. What? And she says my favorite thing ever where she's like, you know, I've, I've done the back and forth. I've been, I've done the merry go round. I've been through the revolving door. And here's the line. I found somebody I want to stand still with. And she says like, don't you want to stand still with me? And he's like, You got me out here at three in the morning to ask me if I want to stand still with you? Like Yeah. Yeah. And
francene:he just like takes And he stands. Yeah.
coryne:Yeah. And he's like, okay. What does he say back? I can't remember his exact line, but he says back.
francene:I, I actually think he just says, okay.
coryne:Okay. It's very simple. Yeah. It's very simple. I think so. But he like Good for
francene:him. I don't know. I don't
coryne:know a lot of guys that would have done that. No, no, no. I don't know a lot of guys that would show up at three in the morning to have that conversation. None the much less. Like, I don't know a lot of guys who would let you call and flip your shit on them at two in the morning and not just hang up and like a day later. I'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah. I'll fodder tomorrow. Yeah. And then you have this conversation. But yeah. And I mean, again, this is, you know, scripted for our entertainment, but like, it does really make me love him in that moment of like, he showed up for her, like he listened to her bullshit. Like he wasn't deterred by her crazy. And like, and then he agrees to like, okay, like we can stand still together. And she gets her say the word monogamous
francene:monogamous did I
coryne:get it? Is
francene:it? She got her monogamous. Is that
coryne:right? Fuck. Fuck's
francene:sake. Monogamous.
coryne:Monogamous.
francene:Monogamous. There it
coryne:is. That's it. Monogamous. Monogamous. Yes. Good job. Yay, Francine.
francene:Keeping that one on the
coryne:pod. There you go. I love it. That was
francene:a good episode. I'm actually looking forward to the next one. So the next one, season one, episode eight, Three's a Crowd. It's a hilarious one with Miranda.
coryne:I remember some pieces of this. It's a Samantha Heady episode, I think.
francene:Yes. And even oh God, this episode is so fucking good. I hate to do any teasers, but I just Googled it. So I've really been trying not to. This is when she meets Biggs X.
coryne:Oh, yeah. Oh, I do remember this one. Oh my gosh. Yes. This is a good one for sure Little
francene:Kathy. Kathy and her little
coryne:Vic. More Crazy Carrie coming
francene:up. I know, I know. This is when I'm like, oh Carrie, you're striving at this craziness and I'm
coryne:here for it. Yeah, she does some shit. She does some shit. I appreciate it. Okay, we got to do our Our vocal send out our sex in the city version that we've been told is good for this show. Do do
francene:do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do
coryne:do do do do do do do do do.
francene:I'm so good at steal this clip. It's going to be this
coryne:forever. Yeah. Just make that our outro from now on. Perfection.