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City After Dark Season 2 Episode 3 The Freak Show

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Coryne & Francene are back after a couple of weeks to commence the rewatching of Sex and The City! 

Tune in as we deep dive on the 'freak show' of men the ladies mingle with... but of course true fashion carrie couldn't help but showcase herself 'freak' in this episode! 

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coryne:

I'm in my bed eating popcorn and drinking rosé, so.

francene:

I was wondering what you were eating.

coryne:

I don't know. Well, I was watching Sex and the City and then I was like, I really want some popcorn. Jealous. Yeah, I won't chew it while we're talking, I promise.

francene:

Just let everyone hear the sound effects. Nom, nom, nom, oh my god, what's been happening? It's been

coryne:

a hot

francene:

minute.

coryne:

Yeah, it's been crazy. Was it, I can't even remember, was it before or after the hurricane?

francene:

It was before because then me and Luna literally left for Scotland like the weekend after the hurricane.

coryne:

Good timing. Good timing on that. I like it. It has been a fucking whirlwind. I feel like July didn't even happen. I was sick for three weeks of July. Oh my God. I know. I got this unbelievable stomach bug the beginning of July that lasted on day 10. I went to the doctor. Yeah. And she put me on antibiotics, which I've never in my life have, Even known that antibiotics were, I thought it was like food poisoning at first. And then I was like, no, this is really like a stomach bug. Yeah. So it was like a

francene:

viral thing.

coryne:

Right. But apparently it was something bacterial. Cause it, the antibiotics really helped. So I get over that fucking finally. And I'm finally like able to eat regularly. Cause like I couldn't eat anything. I did the most bland food ever. And Jason and I had a trip planned for his birthday. So we go on that. I get back, I get COVID.

francene:

Oh, oh my God. I feel like so many people's got covid. It's covid. It's everywhere right now. Come on.

coryne:

So then that happened. And then last weekend I had white linen night. And so, yeah, like barely over COVID, we have all the kids for the whole weekend of white linen night. And the week prior was like the most insane work week I've ever had in my life. Ever like literally on Monday or Monday or Tuesday. I worked from 9 AM until 11 35 PM.

francene:

Oh, just like, gosh,

coryne:

listen, as a, as a mom, I don't do that. Okay. I don't, I don't do an eight hour day. What the fuck? Like it was, I'm doing corporate. Yeah. Super fun. Yeah. I don't do that. So, I was, it was wild. So, this week, and this week is Croston's very last week of summer because spit H I S D, we're starting two and a half weeks early. Yeah, we start

francene:

on Tuesday.

coryne:

We start Monday. It's insane. Oh. It's way too fucking early. And she didn't get out until June 5th.

francene:

Oh yeah, because Luna's been out since.

coryne:

May mid

francene:

May.

coryne:

Yeah, so you're ready. You're ready.

francene:

Yeah, I'm ready. Honestly, I'm kind of ready for like the routine, which is weird. I feel like I'm going back to school.

coryne:

Yeah, I am not ready for her to go back. And also I need to get back in a routine because I feel like the last six weeks have been the most chaotic, crazy shit ever. And like,

francene:

yeah,

coryne:

a hurricane alone was enough. Like that.

francene:

But your house, like you lost power, but your house was okay. My house was fine. But you guys ended up going out, right? Yeah, because yeah, we

coryne:

stayed away. Our H, we didn't have power for like eight days, six days. That's

francene:

crazy. And it was so, I can't remember. I think it was eight. Calm.

coryne:

It was so hot. It was six days. Six days. It felt like 24 days. Stop exaggerating,

francene:

It felt like a hundred days.

coryne:

We had that and but I'm on the board of the community and we lost a bunch of fencing in the community and trees and we're still we're still we today our fence people started today.

francene:

I'm like, honestly, that can't have been a category one, right? It was like we had a fence one down we had damage to our roof, but we actually found someone to do our fence. Within two weeks

coryne:

they did it. That's nice. Yeah. That's

francene:

nice.

coryne:

It was expensive

francene:

though.

coryne:

Jason kept saying, he was like, they go have to rework that category system because if that's a one, yeah, we're fucked. Like what? What the three, I mean like that's. Yeah, it was crazy. Well, and

francene:

you know, I, I can't remember if I've said this before, but you know, one of the hurricanes this year is going to be called Francine. I really, I really hope it's like a little tropical storm and just like,

coryne:

I

francene:

don't want, I don't want me to be the year of like, Oh, Francine's the worst, worst year like Harvey. Like

jason:

Alicia was like a, a detrimental hurricane here on the Gulf Coast for my parents. And that would be one. Don't name was Alicia. Oh, wow. Don't be an Alicia.

francene:

Yeah, see, that's why I don't want people to be talking about this years from now being like, Oh, don't be a friend scene. Jason just came over and stole my pop. All that very strategically to very subtle.

coryne:

Thank you for

francene:

the thank you for being our guest speaker. By the way.

coryne:

It's gonna happen.

francene:

I

coryne:

know.

francene:

This is

coryne:

all recorded. Nothing is safe. Nothing is safe.

francene:

Not when we're here.

coryne:

Hold on, I dropped my phone. I so I was a good girl when I did do my research at least. I watched both episodes.

francene:

I love it.

coryne:

I'm prepared. At least I'm prepared.

francene:

Oh my god, I love it. Also, now, now we're like semi getting back into routine. Oh my god, I really want the happy hour at Wilde.

coryne:

Next in the city. Freaking next in the city. Get in the shower.

francene:

I want our happy hour at Wilde.

coryne:

Oh, yes. We got to do that. Yeah. Yeah, I really want that. Yeah, we need to do that.

francene:

Well, once Once, like, Austin's, like, back at school. Let's get into our routine.

coryne:

Yeah, once she's back in school, I'm good to go. I have, She also starts theater in

francene:

So does Luna! Did I tell you I signed her up? She starts in September. So thank you for the inspiration. Wait, did you find a place close to y'all? Yeah, it's Yeah, it's like 20 minutes, but yeah, it's in Cypress.

coryne:

She starts in September Mondays and Wednesdays. And it's from 4. 30 to 6. 30, so those are great happy hour times for me. Oh my god, yes! Oh, perfect! Yeah. Yeah, that works. Yeah, for sure. Not that I want to wait that long, but we can do one this month and then have that set out for future months. Yes. For sure.

francene:

Okay, so we are back after a little sickness bug. Traveling. Life. Summer. Summer. A summer thing, but now we're gonna be back on track.

coryne:

Yeah, we're gonna get more consistent We are

francene:

gonna get consistent because I just love doing this and actually someone said to me. Oh my gosh, I got work the other day They've started listening to it and they were like, I just love listening to y'all Like chat, like I'm listening to like friends episodes. And I'm like, trust me, this is like one of my favorite things I'm doing this year. Yeah.

coryne:

It's so fun. And that it's definitely that I like the, it's just like, you know, we talk about the episodes and then it devolves into our own conversation about, I

francene:

know that's what I love. I'm like, where is it going to go? So we're on to. Season two, episode three, The Freak Show. I love this episode.

coryne:

I totally, if I had, when I first started watching it and as soon as they played the circus music the first time, I was like, Oh, I forgot about this one. I love this episode. So funny. I love the way they framed it.

francene:

It is so freaking good. So it starts off with Carrie Bradshaw talking about like first dates and like Manhattan on like a Saturday night, everyone's on their dates. And then, I think it then cuts to Samantha who's on a date with a gentleman called Harrison, right?

coryne:

Samantha's on a date with Harrison. I'm trying to visual I wrote

francene:

Do you know my notes? It says he liked Oh, sorry. Shit. Of course. I wrote he liked his lips, but he licked his lips.

coryne:

Basically the same thing. Basically the same thing. I

francene:

know. What was I meaning by that? I don't know what I was meaning, but then I wrote, he invited her up to see the views of his apartment. Oh yeah. That's

coryne:

right. And

francene:

then and then, Oh God, I love this scene. They're in bed together and he's all talking like dirty talk. And then he's like, Oh yeah, this is like a harass, like sexual harassment. Oh, we're going to get in trouble. And then And then he says, like, no offense, but how old are you? 40,

coryne:

41? Well, he says to her, he's like, this is a classic case. Typically, it's an older woman. That's it! And her look on her face, and she's like, excuse me? And he's like, I mean, you know, like, what are you, 40, 41? And that begs the question, how old was she in that scene?

francene:

I think she was, so Carrie and Matt are like 30, 40. For 35, Samantha, I believe it's about 10 years older than them.

coryne:

Okay. So she, yeah, but still, I, that's so funny. So first of all, he's not far off, which to be fair, I would be offended if I was Samantha, because like, I would pride myself on, like, I look like 10 years younger than I should.

francene:

Yeah. Also it's just not necessarily something you make. It's not going to keep you turned on to hear definitely not

coryne:

what you say when you're trying to get no,

francene:

no.

coryne:

And listen, even if you think she looks 40 or 41, you say looks 31. Yeah, fucking idiot.

francene:

But what is like, so funny. So obviously, she's not feeling the best about herself. She goes to the bathroom. She's like looking in the mirror. And then she comes back. And he's in, he's in like a kind of converted closet. This is like 50 shades all chained up

coryne:

and it's just like, come

francene:

on, slap me.

coryne:

He's like, you just hear his voice. He's like, Hey, sexy. And it's like, where is he? And she, cause it's a New York apartment. So it's like a freaking coat closet. Like it's

francene:

so small, like the tiniest,

coryne:

Oh, my God. And he's got himself all in an apparatus and he's like chained up and he's like, slap me, slap me hard. And Samantha's just like, honestly, I'd have slapped the shit out of him and left just for calling me old. But like,

francene:

Same. I feel like I would have given a cheeky slap before I left.

coryne:

A little bit like, bye. Thank you for playing. What a freak. And then that starts off the whole like freak show thing. Freak show. Yeah, the Carrie's monologue is like, Ladies and gentlemen!

francene:

Welcome to the Freak Show. You know what I'd love to like, know though? Is knowing Samantha and how like, open she is. Had he not said that, would she have been down with the closet chains? Cause she looked very turned off. In general. She did.

coryne:

And I, I think, I

francene:

don't know. Like, is that not her thing?

coryne:

Isn't there another episode of her where she plays with that a little bit? Yes. In swing. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. That's when he

francene:

asked her to go get an AIDS test.

coryne:

Yes, that's right. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So, like. He's not completely opposed to, I think the guy just really screwed himself. And to be fair, there was a lot going on in that closet. That was not a little, that wasn't just a little bit of fun for

francene:

him for getting in there so quickly too. Cause he was chained up.

coryne:

Holy crap. That is a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot to take in as a woman who that's another thing is like, as women, we agree to go up to your apartment, which first of all is risky for us. Okay. You open a a, a send in closet full of like dungeons and dragons vibes. Like what in the world is happening? You know,

francene:

at the start of like not even really having foreplay,

coryne:

trying to interject her. Like, Hey, whatever you say now is happening, okay? Don't

francene:

it. It is happening. Jason, as our guest speaker, if you wanna guest star, you

coryne:

get over here. Okay?

francene:

you guest star. And then, and then it cuts to the next night, Samantha was hosting a party about coffee, but completely forgotten the name and Miranda and Carrie are sitting there with them. And then they were just kind of talking about that evening. And, and one of the quotes was, if a man is over 30 and single, there's something wrong with him. And that's what Miranda says. And then Carrie's like, well, what about us? And Miranda's like, well, we're just choosy. And I love that justification.

coryne:

I love it. I love the way she spun that. Everyone else

francene:

is crazy.

coryne:

Not us. It's not us. Definitely not us. There's definitely like First of all, I feel like that's a little young. Calm down, Miranda. To say that and also I feel like there's definitely I feel like we all kind of carry that connotation I know I know at this age It's the if you're close to this age, and you've never been married something's wrong. Yeah, I

francene:

know

coryne:

Like divorce fine, whatever totally get that but like good for you

francene:

for at least you've never Had some on,

coryne:

right? And like, and whatever, like it happens, you know, I get it. But like, if you've never, so I can kind of see the, but that was some quick judgment on Miranda's opinion.

francene:

Well, and you're right, like over 30, which it's interesting looking back, like what this was like 20 something years ago. Now. I can imagine they'd be like, oh, if a man was over 50. Yeah,

coryne:

yeah, I agree.

francene:

The bar is higher.

coryne:

Good, I'm glad. I mean, I think that nobody should legally be able to get married before they're 30. Like, what are you doing? You don't know what you're doing.

francene:

Yeah for sure. Especially being under 20.

coryne:

The 25 for sure. Like you don't even know what's going on with your life. I was married, divorced before I was 25. Listen, I had no business. Okay? No business. No business being down that aisle. No. Like that's silly. Like you can't even pay, you don't even know how to pay a light bill. Like what?

francene:

Oh my God. Cor, I still don't know. I struggled to pay the water bill.

coryne:

That's

francene:

And what's interesting is I always love seeing these, like, vulnerability, like, Samantha Joan moments as she turns to Carrie and she's like, do I look like I'm 40? And Carrie's face so politically, and you don't look a day over 35, and what's interesting is how much of a contrast this is to the last episode, which was the awful truth.

coryne:

Huh.

francene:

And now they're back to denial.

coryne:

Yeah. Deny it. Deny it. But that is like the that is what the guy should have done the night before. It's like, you like, it's like that instant answer. Like, did these pants make me look fat? No, no. Like it's like so quick. Yeah. Let's go over 35 like that. I know it is. They do a good job of that with Samantha, I think through the whole series where she has these moments of kind of vulnerability, but most of the time it's only with Carrie. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. She, she only like, it's only, and I've always gotten that feeling from that group of girls that like, Carrie, Samantha is Carrie's. I'm sorry, Carrie is Samantha's like, that's her person. Like, yeah, you're right. Yeah. They

francene:

always phone each other too. Yeah.

coryne:

Yeah. They're like that. She's the closest obviously to her. Who do you think carries the closest to

francene:

Miranda?

coryne:

They do have like the most, like, I feel like

francene:

they have more moments.

coryne:

Yeah. What about Charlotte? Carrie?

francene:

Yeah. Well, yeah, probably. So maybe that's And I, I think maybe they did that purposely on how things are centered around

coryne:

Carrie,

francene:

right?

coryne:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of like they say, everything isn't about me, but what if it is

francene:

Taylor Swift edition? How many more we can add in?

coryne:

Yes. Let's see if we can throw any more random lyrics. Have you heard about that show in Vienna?

francene:

Oh, yeah, they got canceled because it made me

coryne:

I know it made me think about you when I When I heard that yesterday because I was like, oh my god What if that had been the show francine was going to and she'd flown all that way? I know I feel

francene:

bad for all those people because there was a total of 177 000 people that would have been attending the three nights

coryne:

crazy Crazy a lot of

francene:

people

coryne:

and also like so grateful that they caught it, you know, like You I know. Yeah, that's wonderful that they, I had a friend on Facebook I saw today post that she was like, what do you do when after your plane takes off, they cancel the show you're flying 10 hours away? Oh my God. Is that

francene:

refund? Like in all seriousness, knowing how many people are traveling there because the tickets are cheaper. So those tickets probably would have been like what to, to 400 versus. The thousands paid for the flights,

coryne:

right? No, I mean, yeah, it's like they can refund your ticket, but not your airfare, not your hotel, not your, you know, I know, but just be fair, like, as much as that sucks. It also like what a blessing. Oh,

francene:

my God. Yeah.

coryne:

That's a blessing for sure. Yeah,

francene:

I feel I feel bad for her. And yeah, some guys, you know, it's been again, not to digress, but it's been a crazy month like relay to like the Taylor Swift concert because did you see the I don't know if the it came over the news here, but in England there was a guy that went into

coryne:

Yes. Oh

francene:

god, that was so bad.

coryne:

I know, I know. It was a terrorist thing, well not terrorism, but what do you call that? Like a, like

francene:

honestly, what the fuck?

coryne:

Attack. I know, I know. It, it sucks because like As wonderful and amazing as all of that is, it also, it like, gets to a point where it draws that attention. Yeah,

francene:

I know and I, yeah.

coryne:

I hate that. I hate that for everyone who loves it and for Taylor and it's just all around that stuff. Just all

francene:

the positiveness that has been brought.

coryne:

Come from it, right, absolutely. That's, that's, that sucks for sure. People suck. Anyway,

francene:

Okay. So then Charlotte Oh yeah. And then Charlotte's like, Oh, ladies, I'm seeing this guy. And then immediately the girls are like, Mr. Pussy. And then they're like, we need to go to the bathroom. And they drag her into the bathroom to talk about it.

coryne:

Yes. I love this. I love it. Of course, Samantha knows the deal on this guy. And apparently he is famous for going downtown, Julie Brown. And, and of course, of course, Charlotte is the one who's like honed in on him. And I love that. They're like having the conversation in the background and the rando girl, the stall that comes out, she's like, Oh, Oh, you must be talking. I did. Yeah, she knew exactly who they're talking about. He's like, she's like, I dated him for a month and she's like, she's like, I came so hard. Once I blacked out

francene:

and then, you know, what made me laugh? And I love Carrie's character for this. When she says that Carrie then says, guy's got a good word of mouth. Yeah,

coryne:

and I love Charlotte immediately is like, Oh, I can't date him. I can't date somebody with that reputation. Like I can't do this. She's like immediately off of it, which is hilarious. Now we'll say if that was you. How do you take that? Or you're like, oh, well, I got to see what the noise is about, or are you like, no, I'm turned off?

francene:

No, I'd be like, oh, now I'm curious. Same, same.

coryne:

Like, I gotta, is it worth the hype? I'd be like, is

francene:

it?

coryne:

Is he that good? Mean, to be fair, like I, you're going to have to impress me like, I don't know if you live up to all that. Oh boy. Like what's up?

francene:

I mean, that's a lot though. For someone to like over here in the bathroom and be like, holy shit, he is amazing. And for all the girls to have like known.

coryne:

Yeah. Like, but that's, then it's also like, okay, so you get around or at least your mouth does. Yeah.

francene:

Also, did you notice in this scene, they're all wearing black. Oh, it's not. Yeah, I was like, Oh, they're all very color coordinated. And then Oh, what I personally found was not a turn on is when they come out the bathroom, and they look over at him, and the way he's like eating, and then, you know, They're just staring at him and he's staring at them. I'm like, Oh

coryne:

no. And I will say he knows. He knows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will say that like, obviously they shot that that way to like accentuate the point, but I do appreciate Carrie. Who's just like stare, stare, like, Oh, she's like, Oh, okay. Well, all right. Too much.

francene:

Yeah, no, that's not hot. But yes, of course, you would be like, oh, okay, let's, let's leave and see how it is.

coryne:

But Charlotte, of course, true to form, like, waits. It's, you know, it takes another few more scenes, but like, she waits, like, three or four dates or whatever. Until she, you know, lets him like go down on her or whatever.

francene:

And then it's like every night.

coryne:

Oh, I love that. Every day. I love that they, like, she's like officially addicted. Like, she. And I, they never show it or talk about it, but did they ever actually have sex or was it just oral?

francene:

Do you know, that's what I wonder too. I'm like, cause I do appreciate you have some. Individuals in the world that truly get off on getting the other person off and very selfless. But I did wonder that too. I'm like, he obviously really enjoys it, but does he get, like, what does he get out of this?

coryne:

Well, or like, is he, is there like sex after? Or are we just, cause there was that one where they were showing all those things that were like, on Monday she came harder than she ever had. Yeah. And on Tuesday and on Wednesday and on Thursday and on Friday and Friday again and Friday again. And I'm like, so like, wait, did he, like, what did that, was that reciprocated? Like, I don't know. We're probably just overthinking it.

francene:

But right though, like, I, again, very. Selfless for a guy to

coryne:

it's a movie. Calm down.

francene:

And also I think this is where it then goes to the like freak show from yes. Perspective that they're obviously trying to emphasize. Yeah.

coryne:

Circus act of the man who, you know, can't get enough of going out. Yeah. I mean, I would get sick of that. Like, Like it's, it's all well and fine and don't get me wrong. I mean, I feel like all women love that for the, I think I will say all that's overarching, but like for the most part, I feel like great, but it's also like, it's an appetizer on the, you know, four course menu. Like that's not like, like I don't know if you just do that, like that's going to be fun for like one time. Okay.

francene:

I know. I feel like I want to say something so crude and I forget that people listen to this, but There comes a time where you just need the

coryne:

Yeah, yeah. Like, at some point you gotta put it in. Like, that's, like, that's, there's gotta be penetration. Or you're just, you're just making me upset. Yeah, same. Like, that's, yeah. Same. That's just, you're just teasing me. Stop it.

francene:

Oh my god.

coryne:

Charlotte did not seem bothered, though, I will say.

francene:

No, she didn't. And I always appreciate like, especially in that scene where you can kind of see that a part of her is like ill, but then the other part is like,

coryne:

I know. I loved about these scenes is when they're showing her essentially like having an orgasm. Charlotte is like,

francene:

yeah.

coryne:

And then it gets like a little bit more, but she's like, yeah, that's it. Like, I'm by the seventh nine. It's the most waspy orgasm I've ever heard in my life. Okay.

francene:

Oh, so delicate.

coryne:

So delicate. Such a delicate flower.

francene:

So then Carrie decides to go on some blind dates.

coryne:

Yes. The first person

francene:

is this crazy guy, PJ.

coryne:

Well, I love that. She's like, because remember, like the last episode ended with her having a moment with big. And so I love that. Like, oh, we're blind dating. Like, we're making an effort here. Carrie, like no mention of big, like she's back in the game. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Remember it ended with them outside at her birthday party. Oh yeah. Yeah. I only know this because in a totally narcissistic way, I've listened to all our podcasts. So I just.

francene:

And also wait, this is an episode. He's not in it.

coryne:

Yeah. He's not in it. And literally they don't say his name. They don't talk about him.

francene:

Oh my God. I didn't catch that, but yes, you're right.

coryne:

Yeah, she's out on blind date. Good for

francene:

her. Okay, good

coryne:

for Carrie. Who set her up? Like, did you? Cause like, this is before Grindr. Like, did you? Grindr? You mean Tinder? Grindr is a thing, too. Okay. That is true. I don't know if Carrie would have used that, though. Probably not. She'd have been on, let's see, Bumble. I feel like Carrie's

francene:

yeah, she would have been on Bumble. Samantha would have been all over Tinder.

coryne:

A hundred percent. She'd had a premium profile.

francene:

Oh my God, Ashley, you know, what is the name of the one for celebrities? There's one for celebrities. Yes. Darn it. What is the name of it? I say this because Lana.

coryne:

How do you get on it as a regular person? Or is it only someone

francene:

at my work who will not be named was telling me that she got accepted. And I was like, that was legit. It's called like,

coryne:

Hold on, I'm Googling it. Celebrity dating app. Rina.

francene:

Rita. Rina.

coryne:

Raya. Private membership based dating app that was originally intended for celebrities. Yeah. It has become a place for social networking and other connections. Sure, social networking. Some call it the Illuminati Tinder. Right? Oh, I love that. Isn't that great? I didn't know that. I didn't even know that was a thing. That's interesting. I always wonder how those celebrities meet. Now I know.

francene:

Now, you know. Oh, I know. Cause Ben Affleck was on it. Wasn't there like a thing about him? I can't remember. Oh, I really hope they don't divorce. Oh, that's happening. No, I can't. I really can't believe it. I waited 20 years for them to get back together. I'm like, don't just give me four years.

coryne:

I love J Lo and obviously J Lo cannot keep a relationship together. I know, but

francene:

how? He just looks so miserable.

coryne:

No, but I wonder, is that a her thing? I mean, he's no walk in the park, obviously, but.

francene:

I feel like I could make him laugh and make him happy. I should, should I go on Rhea?

coryne:

You should, well, I mean, you should probably tell your husband, but. I don't know. Don't worry, Aaron, it's an experiment. He seems like one of those people with like negative energy a lot.

francene:

I feel like he'd be moody as fuck.

coryne:

Yes, I feel like he. Everything

francene:

would be a

coryne:

pain. I feel like he, he manstrates for sure. And I think that like. But J Lo, like, again, I love you, J Lo, if you're listening to this. Girl, what's going on? I know, what's going on? That is a lot of guys. Listen, and you freaking You know, Zsa Zsa could bore that shit up. I don't care, but stop acting like she did. There was a movie about how much their love meant to her.

francene:

I know

coryne:

that's the part that hurts. 20

francene:

mil.

coryne:

That is great. My dad. So, you know, my, I think I told you, I think I told you. So my dad had a stroke this year. And so he's been, you know, less active than he normally is. So he's been watching more TV than normal. And we've been talking about all the things he's watching. And one time I was talking to him, he's like, did you

francene:

watch that JLo documentary? Did he watch it? I've not seen it yet.

coryne:

He said he was like, man, it took me like four times to get through that thing. But I was like, wow, dad, you really committed.

francene:

I really want to watch it because I'm curious.

coryne:

Well, especially if you're that big of a fan of theirs. Yeah, you should watch it.

francene:

I know it's gonna make me sad, but okay. So Carrie decides to go on a blind date. We don't know how she would set up.

coryne:

I'm going to say, I'm just going to speculate. She read a classifieds ad. Remember the newspaper? I really

francene:

hope so.

coryne:

I

francene:

really hope so. Because what, what does he do again? He's a documentary person for seagulls. Oh my God. Was it seagulls?

coryne:

Yeah, it's like some like, you know, philanthropic thing. And so she sits down with him and she's like, so interested in it. And she's like, so oh my, this is it. And he immediately is like, Oh God, he's like, I'm just dying. Doing that to make it to the big screen. Like, I just want to get to Hollywood and make movies. He's like, I love money. I want to make money. That's all. I don't give a fuck about those seagulls. And she's just like, Oh my God, ladies and gentlemen, the man with no soul.

francene:

And then immediately after she goes in a second date to the movies and they're standing in line with this different person and he starts saying stuff to the couple behind him, the man behind him. He just yelled at me. He's like, get the fuck away from me. Why are you standing so close? Do you want to hear conversations? Can you imagine?

coryne:

He's like such an asshole, which was so funny because when he started to lose his mind, I was like, Oh my God, is that what's her name? Something Sharon's. Susan Sharon's brother, brother.

francene:

He just, Oh God, how mad I feel like I would have laughed.

coryne:

I didn't walked away. I don't just get a great up like walked away. No, I could never be around somebody who berates strangers in public like that. Like no,

francene:

for no reason. And then it goes into the music again. Then she's like the man with two faces. Um, and then she has her third date, she's being busy. I know, and again,

coryne:

classifieds, classified section.

francene:

She's like looking for a date and then this person, she says, we had a great dinner in little Italy and then they're standing by like an old bookstore and she looks over and he's stealing a book.

coryne:

Yeah, and he was like some investment banker or something like he had just made some amount of money like she mentions it in the monologue about him and he's stealing some book and she's like the man who steals cheap used books. Yeah, crazy. I will say, God, I empathize with that part of the dating scene where you just like go out with the weirdest fucking people. It's like. I don't miss that. Holy crap. Like there's so many weird people in the world.

francene:

Do you know, I never dated.

coryne:

I do know that. And that it's I, you know, it's an experience to laugh about and think about back on. And it's hilarious to reminisce about. I don't know if you miss that much, Francine. I don't know. I'd be terrible on a date.

francene:

I think Aaron like sometimes jokes about the first couple of dates like we went on and I feel like I came across really well, but apparently I had to like persevere with my chat. But yeah, I, I, I don't know. I would hate that. I think I would not represent myself in the best way.

coryne:

I went on so many dates in my 20s. I was basically single for like seven years and yeah, I, I always joke that I dated every terrible person that there was like every version of the worst man on the planet. I've been on at least two dates because, you know, I'm a believer. So, like, I

francene:

You're like, got it. Let's try this again,

coryne:

you know, I'm going to give him one more go. I'm gonna give him one more go. Like, oh my God, I've been on the worst, the worst dates with the worst people. So I get, I get what Carrie's going through. I do. I get it. I get it. That's why, like, when you. Yeah, when you do all that, when you meet somebody who just like you vibe with and they're not fucking weird, you're like, you want to, you want to get married today? Or like,

francene:

You're like, let's lock this down right now. Lock

coryne:

this shit up. Cause you've been on dates with like the, all the bad, all the bad. My very best friend is dating again. bicariously And so I get to live bicariously through her. But she, she, I'm going to say thankfully refu doesn't, she's not on any dating, nothing. She's just like organically. Organically meeting people or people.

francene:

Yeah.

coryne:

Well, cause she was married for a long time and she ended, she had divorce and she's so good looking. And so such a she's such a fucking badass that like once the smoke cleared from the divorce It was like the men were like, yeah, I heard you're single Hey, there's that too, which I love for her, but yeah, I'm getting to live vicariously through her escapades of dating again. And, oh, it's so funny. It's, it's good stuff. It's good stuff.

francene:

Yeah. I love, I love hearing the stories. So then, then we cut to Charlotte who's with Mitch. Okay. And this is where. Then she has like her first orgasm. Yes. They literally do it like day by day. And onto like the seventh day we, we hear Carrie saying she was ready to run away and join the circus, which again plays into like the freak show.

coryne:

She doesn't care. This is all she wants to do with her life.

francene:

Yes. And then we cut to a different scene and it's Carrie sitting on, like, a fountain park. Well, I guess, is it Central Park?

coryne:

I don't know if that fountain is in Central Park, but it definitely, it has that vibe.

francene:

And I'm just making an assumption because they're in New York. Yeah. Like, what park

coryne:

limited experience with New York. Yeah. If you

francene:

say fountain, it's

coryne:

gotta be in Central Park.

francene:

And then she's sitting and, like, speaking of meeting people organically, she's gone on, like, three dates and she's sitting next to a guy who they keep on looking over at one another, which I think is a really cute scene. Yes, it is. And they have good, like, flirty banter. Yeah. And then his name's Ben and one of the things she says is, like, why do all you guys become freaks? And he was like, whoa. What do you mean? What about you all? Yeah. And then they were just talking about their experiences. And he's

coryne:

like, what does he say about the girl that he went out with? The last girl he went out with, I'm gonna forget, but it was a pretty freaky story. I can't remember what it was now.

francene:

Oh, what did he say?

coryne:

He has his own freak show story, which is hilarious because it's like equally as bad as what like Carrie has recently experienced. Yes. It gives her a good perspective. He's like, that's why I don't date anymore. And so they're like laughing about it, you know, whatever. And he's like, hey, would you have dinner with me? Yeah, she's like, like a non date. Yeah, he's like, she's like, I thought you didn't date. And he's like, eh, let's just have like a non date. So she agrees to go out with him, which is cute. That's a very I love

francene:

that. They have the good chemistry.

coryne:

They did, yeah.

francene:

They seem like a cute match. They did. And then, oh yeah. So then Samantha is, you know, walking down the street and she bumps into one of her friends, who I think she was saying like, oh god, you look amazing. And then It's interesting. I know in like these previous scenes that we've seen throughout like Sex and City is how Instantly people just divulge like information and she was like, oh my god girl I just got all my like fat injected from my ass into my face. I look so young I'll send you the plastic surgery like details

coryne:

and

francene:

obviously this is playing into like 20 years

coryne:

ago Pre Botox. Like this, yeah, this is when like this was like the plastic surgery aesthetic thing that people were doing was they were like having fat injected into their face to like plump it out, you know?

francene:

Which is interesting too because one of the things she said, she was like, oh you can eat what you want because you need to put on weight in your butt and then they take it out. But I'm like, how much are they taking out your butt that's going in your face?

coryne:

First of all, if we could eat whatever we wanted to make our asses bigger. I know, how, how did she only let it go to her mom? That's not where, you don't get to pick where the fat goes, honey. I didn't know that girl did. Yeah, apparently, like, I want to know where that program is. Like, I do a thousand squats a week. Like, I, I can eat a cheeseburger? What, what? I wish. Yeah, that's not where the fat goes. But anyway, but which plays back into Samantha's insecurity. She's still like, you know, groveling with what the guy said to her about looking like she was 40 or 41. So

francene:

yes. And immediately being like, Oh my God, I need to do something about this. Yeah. So

coryne:

she's called that doctor, obviously.

francene:

Yes, and I think we go on to it, like, soon for, like, her scene but then we go back to Carrie's date, they're going good What else? They have like

coryne:

a great date. Like they have a great first date. Like everything's good. She like really likes him, which is awesome. That's what I mean. They have

francene:

like great chemistry.

coryne:

They do. He was solid. He was a solid option for sure. Carrie, don't. Hold on. Carrie's gonna fuck it up. Hold on.

francene:

I was thinking that too. Like I couldn't remember this episode now as I was watching it and I was like, Oh God, what crazy thing is Carrie gonna do?

coryne:

Well, and then don't they cut to Charlotte is out with the girls and she's like doing the whole Charlotte thing with Mr. Pussy, where she's like I really

francene:

see a future with

coryne:

him and they're like, what the fuck? He makes me so happy, blah, blah, blah. And they're all like, no, you don't marry him. You use him and then you let him go to other women. Like, dude. You know, I'm trying to capture this guy. Share, share it. They're like, no, you're like, you're entranced by the sex. Like, don't know. And Carrie looks at her and she's like, I mean, have you gone to like dinner or like had conversation? Like, you know, are you doing other things? And obviously Charlotte's like, Oh, maybe we're not doing that.

francene:

It's like things Samantha also asks, like, are you guys having sex? Doesn't she ask that question? Does she? I thought she did. But yeah, and like, obviously Charlotte couldn't answer it. So then she's like, you know, let me see if I can set up a date for us.

coryne:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, no, she's going to set up a date. And then do they cut immediately to the day? Cause that date. Oh my God.

francene:

No, what they cut to is a double date with Miranda and Carrie's guy that she's seeing, Ben, his friend, Luke, and they cut to them kind of walking through central park. And what's Interesting about this scene is like Carrie and Ben are like standing very closely behind them walking. They're not saying anything to one another. They're just listening to Miranda look and this is another time where I'm like, God, Miranda is so awkward when she's like in that flirty stage and she's like knowing their age. I don't know, maybe this is something I would ask too, but she's like, what's your favorite ice cream? And he's like, strawberry. And she's like, Oh, so you're like

coryne:

boring.

francene:

Yeah. And I was like, Oh my God, just, it hurts my ears.

coryne:

So the other thing that I thought was weird was that. When, when Carrie was talking to the girls about this guy that she met and that she really, really liked him, of course, you know, negative Nellie, Miranda is like, nay saying it. And so this is Carrie's response to that. Like, come on a double date with us. Yes, that's

francene:

right. Yeah, let me set you up. You can see, but yeah, their chat is just fucking awful. Yeah. He says something about,

coryne:

so they're like, you know, like back and forth on questions. And she says, she's going to Connecticut for the weekend, Connecticut. And she's like, what's wrong with Connecticut? And he's like, Oh, I haven't, he's like nothing. I haven't left New York city in like eight years or something. And so then it's like, that's his freak thing is that like, he's never left the city, which is like,

francene:

why would I want to, I have everything here. And she's like, I'm done.

coryne:

I know she's all done. So I thought it was so funny though, because that is like a real thing with New Yorkers that like, they don't leave the Island. So my my uncle that I told you about that was, yeah, he lived in New York city for a period of time. And I remember he was home once and he was like, yeah, like it, while he was, he was in Texas and visiting and whatever. And he's like, you know, I realized I had not been off the Island in, I think at that point it was like two and a half years.

francene:

I think it just like absorbs you. I think there's just like, yeah, I kind of get it like,

coryne:

there's so much to do, your work's there, your friends are there, your life's there, and then you realize you've been living on the, I don't remember how big New York City is, that island, but it's tiny. I think it's like seven miles or something. How is it? I think it's really small. I could Google it. But he had, he had not been off the island in that long. So, I mean, it's a real thing. Like that is, I think there's some New Yorkers who like really lean into that. What do you mean island? Cause you know, New York City is actually an island. Oh, my lights just went out in my bedroom. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, look it up on a map. It's an island itself. It has like a, I'm not going to remember the borders, but there's water and there's like a canal that runs through the top part of it and so it's actually an island. So it's like Gotham in Batman. That's totally it, yeah. How big is New York?

francene:

Oh my god. Long Island. I always thought Long Island was an island. But yeah, you're right. New York is like separated.

coryne:

Oh, New York's way bigger too. It's 300 square miles. It's huge, but. Wait, Manhattan. Manhattan is 22 square miles. Wait. Manhattan Island is 13 miles long and 2. 3 miles out.

francene:

Manhattan Island. So there's an island within it.

coryne:

So Manhattan, which is New York City. Yeah. The New York that we know is Manhattan Island is actually an island. So like Brooklyn is off the island. The Bronx is off the island. Like the actual island itself is only 13 miles long.

francene:

Wow, I never knew that. And now I'm looking at the map. Who knew? Oh, shit. Yeah, the financial district and stuff. Oh, yeah. Okay. Anyway, I'll look at this in my own time. Geez, I never looked at it before. Okay, so clearly he's a freak because he has never been off the island and her code that they mentioned that they've they've used in the past for like dates was, I need to feed my cat. And Carrie's like, No, Miranda, you fed your cat earlier. She's like, now I need to feed my cat again. And then she just trots off.

coryne:

I'm gone. Thank you so much. Yeah, I do really appreciate Miranda's ability to just like Once she's done, she's done. No niceties.

francene:

Oh, yeah. She's like, I don't have fucking time for this. I'm out.

coryne:

All done. Yeah.

francene:

Like just seeing the guy's face just sitting there being like, Oh, okay, you're just gonna go. And then it cuts to Carrie and I think she's with Ben and they're like, Kissing or they're in his apartment or her apartment and and she's like, is there anything weird about you that I should know? and then he shows the tattoo Tweety Tweety pie but you're like, okay, that's the only weird thing. That's fine.

coryne:

Yeah. What

francene:

a good guy. What a good guy, Kari. Hi, Kari. Take advantage of this one, Kari. I love, I love Kari's

coryne:

response where he's like, so you're perfect. She's like, oh no. And she searches for his knee and she's like, three stitches. And I'm like, oh my God. What? You don't, you don't want to mention the crazy shit you did with Big? You know what I'm talking about. Cool. Three stitches. Got it, Carrie. Got it.

francene:

So then before we go back to Carrie, obviously, the craziness. It then cuts to Charlotte and Mitch Saylor, aka Mr. Pussy, on a date. And it is a very awkward date. Like, they have fuck all to say to one another. Nothing. And he's not interested. At all.

coryne:

No, and I, it to the, it's like freak show to the level where she's like, obviously trying to make conversation and she looks over him and he takes a fig. Oh, I can't. I'm like. So gross. He like. Things to a fig.

francene:

Yeah. Could you imagine being in a restaurant?

coryne:

Oh my God. That is. Yeah. So obviously they're over.

francene:

He doesn't even have any like dirty talk. Like,

coryne:

how did he, like, how did he talk her up like this? No. You know, like he obviously had conversation enough to like talk it up when they met that night at that event. Like he, he cannot, he couldn't do it. He couldn't carry a conversation.

francene:

I wonder what he does for a living.

coryne:

They say it in the very beginning. It's something. Is it

francene:

like, is it like finance?

coryne:

Yeah. It's something like it'd be

francene:

finance.

coryne:

Total finance, bro. He's a finance bro. Finance.

francene:

So yeah, looking for a guy in finance,

coryne:

six, five

francene:

blue eyes. Okay. So then. So yeah, Charlotte's like, I'm done. It was over. I feel like if I was, if I was her though, you'd be like, okay, well, let's just have it one more time.

coryne:

Just tonight. And then I'm

francene:

out.

coryne:

We're already out. We're already on a date. Yeah, that's what

francene:

I mean. Like we might as well. He's already ready.

coryne:

One more gin. He's practicing

francene:

on the fig. I don't know.

coryne:

After watching him do that to a fig, a hundred percent turned off

francene:

Yeah, I afraid that. Yeah.

coryne:

Yeah. It was not,

francene:

not hot.

coryne:

It's not hot.

francene:

So then we cut to Samantha and she's at the plastic surgery place, the fat in the face for, to put the fat in the face. And as she's like, okay, yay, doctor, amazing. Love it. And she's like, well, what else can you do? And then he just starts scribbling. All over her

coryne:

and then all the way they shot it because you couldn't see it. You could just see her back and he was like, I would lift here. I would do this. I would blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then this is so funny. Cause okay. So this scene, again, I would have watched this in my early twenties. And then I fast forward in my thirties, I had a breast reduction lift done. And when I went to the plastic surgeon, so I got three consults before I decided who it was going to use. Cause you know, this is a, this is major surgery. Like I want to stop it around whenever every time that I would go into a consult because of this scene, I swear to God, because of this scene, I would say, listen, I am here because I want to do this. Nothing else. I don't want to even talk about it.

francene:

No,

coryne:

I don't. I love. And I would say, I was like, I would be like, I love my body. This is what I'm here for. Don't try to upsell me or make me feel bad about myself. Like don't do it because of that, like that, that scene especially for somebody is body confident as Samantha. I know. Yeah, because like he does the thing and then he gets called out of the room and in total Samantha fashion, she like creeps over to the mirror, like all excited. Like I'm going to see what he's going to do. And she looks like a circus

francene:

all over. Yeah.

coryne:

And in like bright red, like lipstick. You know, like it, it was dramatic. That's not how they actually do that, but

francene:

it is hilarious. But did you, did you find like, when you had those conversations, they really did just focus on, okay, we can do this. Did I had,

coryne:

I had good experiences with all three of the doctors that I went to the funniest one. So. I went to a plastic surgeon, the plastic surgeon I used who I love and he was amazing. Can't say enough about him. He was recommended to me by my cousin. He was great. And then I went to one that one of my best friends recommended to me. And then I found one on my own and I'm going to forget how I found him, but he actually specialized in reconstructive surgery for women who had had to have mastectomies. Okay. So he was the one I knew the least about. And his office was down in the medical center and it was like on the top floor of a building overlooking Hermann park. Nice. Beautiful. So I get up there, they put me in his office. Cause I, you like, for all of them, I met them in their office first and we talked about it. And then we went into like an exam room and I changed clothes, which I appreciated that, that they like, before you're naked in front of me, like, let's have

francene:

a conversation. Yeah.

coryne:

He walks in the room and he is The most stunning man I think I've ever seen in my life. He was my age or maybe a year younger. And I was, I was in a very serious relationship at the time, but he was gorgeous and like dressed in. The most impeccable custom suit like

francene:

I love and

coryne:

the most genuine energy ever like Just like the nicest person like so so nice. And so like i'm like, I don't want to get naked Very good. Yeah, so hot and so like I do of course, but and then even when like we you know In front of him and he's doing thing. He says the most kind of things. He's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, you know this lift reduction for you like this doesn't fit your age or your body or like your look like he's like complimenting me and

francene:

I'm like, I love you. Oh my God, find his name.

coryne:

Oh, God, that's such a dig. I'd have to look. He was so, Oh, so like the

francene:

listeners need to now know. Yeah.

coryne:

And I will say he was also really, he was clear about the, like, he obviously had a passion for helping women who had gone through a really traumatic thing with a mastectomy or in cancer. What

francene:

a nice person.

coryne:

I know he was. So I did not pick him because I could, you're too pretty. You're too pretty. I can't see now. I know I've he's probably still has a killer like shit. He's probably retired by now. He was making a ton of money then and he was like 31. So I have to look that up.

francene:

Yeah, let's find it comments. So then we caught to carry and in true, we've gone through the episode and we're like, God, we're nearly at the end. She's done so good.

coryne:

We're all in love with Ben at this point, right? Yeah, I think

francene:

that's honestly I think Ben is great. So yeah, she stays a night. She's at his apartment and he's like, look, I'm running late for a soccer game. You stay here, you know, let yourself out. We're good. Like we'll catch up later. Immediately. Immediately. And actually, I will tell you this, I was sitting watching this with Aaron the other night, and he adds like little ad lib comments, like, you know I'm not gonna watch this shit, but yeah, at the same time, oh yeah, he, and he knows like all the episodes, when we watched her, Be a crazy bitch and raid the entire apartment looking for God knows what she was looking for something that was, you know, a freak show or whatever. He literally turned to me and he was like, that's what you would do. And think I would, but I was like, I guess I would, but I would at least wait. Five minutes.

coryne:

Isn't this reminiscent though of when Miranda did it and found the, oh my God, the video. Yeah. Yeah. Is like, I get, because when Miranda did it, she was just like, I'm just going to peak. And that's

francene:

why I mean, she was doing it. Maybe I'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. Harry goes full crazy looking. She was, Oh my God. Like she grabbed that like little box and like, Oh God, it was making me cringe. She was trying to like shimmy the box open with

coryne:

like a letter opener. And then she's like standing on his bed. First of all, with her

francene:

cigarette.

coryne:

Play smarter girl. You need a Bobby pin. Okay. Like you don't, what are you doing? What are you going to hack into the box? And then like,

francene:

Lost her mind. He

coryne:

did. It was full Cray, full Cray, Cray, Cary like that.

francene:

And then of course, lovely Ben comes in. Cause he didn't want to play soccer. He just wanted to spend the day with her. And he's like, what the fuck are you doing?

coryne:

Yeah.

francene:

And she can't explain it. And he's like, I thought you were different. And she was like, Same. Did I? Bad. My

coryne:

bad.

francene:

Now she's one of the ones.

coryne:

Yeah. And then she's like, she's walking on the street doing monologue after and she's like, I've discovered my own rig show. Like, bitch, we, we, we could have told you that as Susan. Yeah, we're like, Carrie.

francene:

Honestly, but then yeah, so she says the truth is it's not just men. Anyone who is single in Manhattan turn into freaks.

coryne:

Yeah. And

francene:

then it's like the scene end and she's like, we'll always have Manhattan. And this is something that we continue to see throughout sex and say is her relationship with. New York.

coryne:

Yes. Yeah. And yes. I mean, she would

francene:

never move from New York. We've never Yeah.

coryne:

Yeah. That's her continual love affairs with New York. And I love the way that they, you know, they frame that, like, there's so much cools the way they, you know, build that with her, that that's like her relationship with New York and stuff like that. Cause I think for so many of us that that was like our first introduction to New York city. Yeah. And like, it was all falling in love with it.

francene:

I know. It's just interesting. I feel like I don't have that relationship with Houston. Or like anywhere, you know what I mean? To that extent, like she, she's honestly a little bit like the, the double date guy with Miranda. Like I could see her, like, they think that's like ridiculous, but I'm like, Carrie's probably not left Manhattan for 10 years.

coryne:

Well, but I feel

francene:

like, I

coryne:

feel like the Outside of the Hamptons. Miranda is also very much in love with New York City. Like remember, In future, spoiler alert, seasons, she's the one who has the hard time when Steve wants to move out, you know, like they're all four of them are very, very much in love. I think it was the fact that the guy was like, so like, How could you even go to Connecticut? Like, so

francene:

weird about it. And he was so like acting like Ben Affleck and all moody and dismissive. That's how he would act. Carrie has a love

coryne:

affair with the city and she has no problem going to the Hamptons for the weekend. You know what I'm saying? Like, She's she's also okay, but she's the one who ends up with that fucking cabin with a no god. I can't wait to dissect though. I know. Yeah, for sure. But you know, it's. End of episode season, or episode three, season two. It was awesome. The freak show, the freak show episode.

francene:

And we will see you back here for, they don't shoot single people. Oh, wait. Shit. Sorry. Oh my God. They shoot single people. Don't they?

coryne:

They shoot single people. Is that the quote? That's not the name of it, is it? Yeah, it's a name. Although they're

francene:

not question marks. So let me re say that. They shoot single people, don't they? There should be a question mark.

coryne:

There should be a question mark. That is a tell of that episode, though. Is it a question mark? Is it an exclamation point?

francene:

Oh, you're right! Oh, wow. Look, so fucking smart. I'm gonna start off the episode like that. Got her again.