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City After Dark Season 2 Episode 6 The Cheating Curve

• francene & coryne • Season 2 • Episode 6

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While Charlotte has a great sell in the gallery, especially to 'power lesbians', Samantha spots her hunky gym instructor Thor, and soon has him showering with her and enjoys his creative shaving of her pubic hair, but is this really original? Carrie sneaks out to her date with Mr. Big without her friends noticing. Miranda dates a pretentious documentary movie buff, but is less and less comfortable with his insistence to 'get in the mood' by watching porn while they make love. Charlotte, who found her current boyfriend kissing another in the gallery, decides to go out 'man-free' with the lesbians, but can she really fit in?

francene:

Oh, what color are your nails? Are they Oxford? Is that black?

coryne (2):

Look. Hold on. Let me hold it this way. Is that a

francene:

snake?

coryne (2):

It is.

francene:

Oh my God. That's amazing.

coryne (2):

I appreciate it. We have to we have to open this episode with a retraction on my part. I said something in the last episode I was completely incorrect about and I would like to retract my statement. What did you say? Officially on the pod. This is my official apology. I totally said less than that. Episode and believed it that Chinese laundry had gone out of business. Gone out of business. And the funny thing is that it came into my Instagram feed. So my phone. And yeah. And please go check out their current ball collection because they've got some really good looking stuff in there. And I was so excited. Cause I was really, really sad about that, but I almost, I swear I went to their website and it was gone. I'm like, did they do a rebrand or like, I mean,

francene:

yeah, I mean, after you like texted me the other day, I was like, Oh, cause I never thought to check either. But yeah, I have a couple of things like literally sitting in my basket.

coryne (2):

Me too. I've got like four, the boots, that pair of there's like three pairs of boots that are really, really good. They

francene:

always did. That, that was the thing I really liked. And then also I have like a pair of like suede like platform and I feel like they've like come back in over the last

coryne (2):

year. I agree. I agree. Well, and the whole thing I was chasing after was good wedges and they totally have good wedges now. It's like after the season, but maybe I can get someone like serious sale because it's like, and just keep them for next year. Cause Lord knows I'm constantly chasing the dragon on a good wedge.

francene:

Well, and a couple of weeks ago, I, cause I think I've said before on the pod, I know we've spoken about it, Aaron hates wedges, like with a passion. Yeah. So for the first time in like, what, 13, 13 and however long years, I got a pair of wedges

coryne:

from Jimmy Choo in the sale. Oh, well, I mean. Oh my god, they're so nice. I've worn them

coryne (2):

twice. My go, well I have two like go to pairs of wedges that I will wear. One is a, it's Jimmy Choo. Oh, they're so comfy. I'm obsessed with them. The, mine are like, you've seen them, they're the gold ones, they're like. Yes. Yes. Yeah, they're sky high, but totally like I could run in those things like the most comfortable. I love those shoes I love them. I wear them all the time. I wore them to cross since birthday party last weekend

francene:

Yeah, I feel really good about having and then they just slip on they were so convenient Oh nice have them like saying on I have them like a

coryne:

picture of this. I will

francene:

And actually I message so we went to totally like sidetracked, but we went to our friend's wedding years ago. I want to say like nine, eight or nine years ago.

coryne:

Yes.

francene:

When we showed up, Aaron got the car or wherever we were. And like three of my girlfriends were standing and they were all wearing wedges. And Aaron was like, what the fuck? And he was like, Oh, hey, then baby said it out loud, like to them. So ever since then, like we always joke, and if they're wearing like wedges, yeah, I know. They're like, Oh, we're wearing our wedges. So I texted them and they were like, no way. I was like, got them girls. I

coryne (2):

mean,

francene:

it's the worst papers

coryne (2):

might be coming, but I'm wearing these shoes.

francene:

He was like, they're so ugly, but get them. I'm like,

coryne (2):

yes, I love it. Yes,

francene:

I won. I don't think we've ever seen Carrie wearing

coryne (2):

wedges. Have we? Oh, well, now I'm going to be on the lookout. I mean, she was definitely very much into the kitten hill. She wore lots of kitten heels, but. I'm going to be on the lookout now. I can't think of any offhand that I remember her in, but I'm going to be on the look. We're going to keep an eye on it for sure. There's something else I was thinking about too that we had not discussed since we've taken an accidental hiatus the last few weeks. There's something

francene:

else. I know, my bad. Viewers, It is way because of me. Am I?

coryne (2):

Your work schedule has been wild, which I love. That's, you know, keeping you traveling and such.

francene:

Oh yeah. Okay. I found, I found a picture of her wearing wedges. I don't think it's until like season five because she has a bob.

coryne (2):

Oh, well that, because I think also like wedges weren't a thing yet in the early 2000s, were they? Like, I don't remember wearing wedges until like, because I remember the first like wedges that became popular were espadrilles.

coryne:

Mm. Yes. Right out

coryne (2):

of South America. And I thought they were the most awful thing ever. They had that like rounded toe with the fabric. I never had them to be

francene:

honest.

coryne (2):

No, me either. Because I thought they were terrible. And then, and then they like started to morph. They Into wedges as we know them, but wedges are some of my some of my favorite shoes for sure. I'm a big fan I like when i've

francene:

joined the club

coryne (2):

Welcome to the dark side. Welcome

francene:

to the dark side. Okay season two episode six the cheating curve

coryne (2):

This this is a good one for sure. I love, yeah, it's, there's the, again, it's, there's some, some things right out the gate that I was like, Oh, this is so 20 years ago.

francene:

Yes. So this was the episode that made me always want to have a pair of Prada loafers.

coryne (2):

The loafers. But my

francene:

feet are bigger and I just, I could never find it. Like it just doesn't suit me, but I always wanted a pair because of this episode.

coryne (2):

I always feel like that look that Charlotte has. It's kind of a theme in the whole episode. Very like preppy. Yeah, it's super preppy. I can't, that's not, my boobs are too big for that. Like I can't pull off preppy to save my life. Like it's not, I can't do it. Flats are, flats are tough for me. I struggle with flats as well to be honest. Yeah. I don't, like I've, I've got a couple of pairs of Roffies, which are cute. Oh yeah,

francene:

I've heard, I, I have a, a dupe from Target. I have like two pairs that were like 15 and I wear them for, you know, like this week, like recruiting staff. But that's the extent that I would. Yeah, I got them

coryne (2):

to wear with the jeans when I needed to like, be a little more dressed up, but I didn't, like I needed to be able to walk. Yeah,

francene:

because

coryne (2):

I heard they're

francene:

super comfortable.

coryne (2):

They're not.

francene:

Oh, they're not? Really? They're so expensive. I don't think they are. That's why I was like, I can't commit knowing I will wear them

coryne (2):

rarely. They run like stupid small. I heard that. Yeah. And I think I've never sized up, up enough. You know what I mean? Like, I think if I, cause you buy them and it's like, I'm like, oh, these are weird. Then you wear them and you're like, fuck, those are too tight. Then you can't return them. So I've like sold them on like the eBay or something. Oh, Poshmark. Yeah. But I, I don't love them. I don't love them.

francene:

Oh, that's a shame. I do

coryne (2):

like Adidas and like stuff like that has become now my go to with like jeans is just like I'll go, I'll do full Kamala, like suit jacket, jeans, cool superstar.

francene:

Yeah, that's cute. If I need,

coryne (2):

if I can't wear heels, that's what I'll do.

francene:

And actually I, I hate to like digress one more time. But, did you see, I don't know where I came across this, speaking of comfortable shoes, did you see that the, what is the woman that owns Spanx, Sarah B, Sarah, what's her name?

coryne (2):

I don't know her name.

francene:

Oh, okay, so she creates Spanx, right?

coryne (2):

Yeah.

francene:

She has now created A shoe brand, and it's The Spanx of footwear? It's called Sneaks, as in S N E E X. You need to like, google it. And it's basically sneakers with heels.

coryne (2):

Oh, I don't know how I feel about this.

francene:

I don't know how I feel about it, but they're so expensive. Sneaks,

coryne (2):

well of course. Like I'm like,

coryne:

I would love to

coryne (2):

see how comfortable. Oh, are these the

coryne:

ones

coryne (2):

where they hide? I've seen this.

coryne:

No,

francene:

they don't hide.

coryne (2):

Oh,

francene:

oh, I don't know. I don't know how I feel. But there's a green pair, but they're like fine.

coryne (2):

That's the one I just was like, oh.

francene:

Oh, I don't hate it. I don't know. I'm the same. I fell down this rabbit hole the other night. Oh, they're kind of cute. They are cute. And I'm like, is this the new future of like comfort? Like actual comfort? Maybe

coryne (2):

I they remind me of, it's kind of like Sarah Blakely. It's kind of like you know, the wedge tennis shoes, the like sneakers, maybe that vibe. That's not terrible. I can see, I can see it improving. I can see it. Like,

francene:

I know I'm looking forward to like the next

coryne (2):

I mean, I'm not paying$600 for'em, but Yeah, it's

francene:

a shame. It's so expensive.'cause I was thinking the other day, I was like, oh, I would love to try it, but I'm like, yeah, if I'm spending that amount and money, I'm gonna get a pair of Jimmy Cheese. No, a hundred percent. I mean,

coryne (2):

yeah, without a doubt. Like that's not like sneakers. They were like, they were like one 50. I would, I would try it. That's, you know. Well,

francene:

same. Same. One million below.

coryne (2):

Yeah. Yeah. If you're listening, Sneak. Or we take, listen, we'll take promo materials. Right. We'll report back. Let us try them. Yeah.

francene:

Let us pretend like we're Carrie. What would she think about this? Yeah. We'll

coryne (2):

give you, I mean, in New York, those would probably be ideal, right? Yes. Like running around the city? Yeah. And I think she's right.

francene:

She's from New York.

coryne (2):

Surely. She's gotta be. I

francene:

think she is from New York. Okay, so

coryne (2):

back to our episode. Okay,

francene:

sorry. Yeah, so, scene set, they're at an art gallery. It's Charlotte's

coryne (2):

Gallery. Our

francene:

gallery. Yeah. And basically she's showcasing I'm presuming, is it a lesbian artist? It is. It's a lesbian

coryne (2):

artist from, and they say what part of the city she's from. And like, she's like this current hot thing. And Charlotte's got, yeah, her collection. So there's like all the power lesbians are at the gallery. And Charlotte is there with her new beau who, oh my God, could he be less attractive. He's so un cute. Like not, no redeeming quality. Like needs more of a chin. Like I was like, ew, Charlotte. And he's yeah, he's, they're like holding hands and he's like eyeing some other chick. I know, he's such a douche. Such a douche. And then Miranda's there with her new beau who goes to the exact same stylist that she does. They have the same haircut. Okay. The same, like a little spiky. Oh my god, I've never

coryne:

noticed. Oh

coryne (2):

my god, I was like, it's the first thing I noticed. I was like, no, you cannot date somebody with the same haircut. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Bad, and it carries there and her date is Samantha, which I love. Yeah. And Samantha's pissed that It's all lesbians, and there's no dudes for her to date. Yeah, she's like,

francene:

where's, where's the men? But it is interesting, like, you make that comment about, like, Charlotte's guy, and I'm like, you know, one of the things, I wondered if it would be the same now, that with Sex and the City, like, they don't, they don't bring in, like, hot guys all the time. Like, I feel like they really do bring in, like, average men. You know what I mean? Versus them always being, like, models. Like, it's very relatable. But sometimes I'm like, I don't know. Did someone in casting think they were hot?

coryne (2):

It's funny because I don't ever remember thinking that way back when, when I watched it, that they were, like, super mid. So, like, maybe, like, 20 years ago. Yeah. And maybe 20 years ago, like that was. Kind of the look, but some of these dudes are just like, woof. Especially because like the girls are all so pretty. You know, like I don't know. It's just, doesn't it make sense to me? That's no. No, Charlotte. No, no.

coryne:

I agree. So of

coryne (2):

course, Samantha hones in real quickly on the lone straight guy at the lesbian art gallery opening. She had her

francene:

straight radar on.

coryne (2):

Yeah, and happens to know him. He's a trainer at her gym.

francene:

Oh, yes.

coryne (2):

Yeah. And then what's the conversation between her and Carrie where Carrie like,

francene:

she's like, Oh, I think I just have like a headache, like all of a sudden I'm like, didn't you just like get there?

coryne (2):

Yeah, and she's with you at first you're like, Oh, that's nice. She's like, feigning sick. So that's Samantha will go ahead and, like, go ahead and guide me. She's like, no, no, no. Go ahead. And that's not her motivation. That's not why she's doing that. I'm like,

francene:

she made a lot of effort to, like, go all the way there to immediately leave.

coryne (2):

But, you know, I feel like I've felt the same because she looked great. Oh, I

francene:

loved

coryne (2):

her shrug. Did you? I didn't know how I felt about that. Oh, I loved

coryne:

it.

coryne (2):

I thought it was very cool, but I'm like, I immediately Googled it. I would wear that, to be honest. I love the color of it. I think the color looks great, but I feel like for a gallery open, I would've just gone with that dress.

francene:

Oh yeah. Just left it as a dress.

coryne (2):

Yeah, as a dress. I don't know. But anyway, I know. So she, she lines it outta there, straight over to b's,

francene:

literally straight over. So now they were boo on secret day.

coryne (2):

Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, now you realize that she was making excuses with Samantha not to help Samantha out, but to get out of there. So she's already

francene:

made plans with Mr. Big.

coryne (2):

Or it was already in her head. Yeah. As soon as I'm done here, I'm gonna go. I'm out.

francene:

And then we don't really stay with them for long because then we go back to the gallery. Yes. And then they kind of describe the artist again, just saying like, she's Charlotte's never told his show up before. Which

coryne (2):

is awesome. Auto clusive.

francene:

Yeah.

coryne (2):

And there's two of the power lesbians are talking about two of the pieces and kind of fighting over one. And Charlotte it's talking with them. And then I guess one of her, like employees comes over and he's like, Hey, we're out of champagne. And she's like, Oh, I'm sure I have an extra case or two in the storage and really that she

francene:

Go's herself, like that. Hurry up.

coryne (2):

That was a big storage space too. There was lots of going on back there. I was like, whoa, that is, that's large for New York.

francene:

Behind the scenes. And then as she goes to check, she hears people obviously getting on and it's her date. Fully kissing. Yeah,

coryne (2):

with the girl who's eyeing, with like, her leg up, like, he's like, God, yeah. And she's like, excuse me. And he looks up. He's like, what? We're just kissing.

francene:

Yeah. Literally. He's like, relax. We're just kissing. Oh my God. And so she does that like on a date though. Like, honestly, you're on a day at that person's work at an event and you couldn't keep in your pants for like, An hour?

coryne (2):

And you, yeah. I can't imagine that. It's so classless. And you know, this happened to Samantha in a previous episode, remember where she, yeah, was on a date with the guy and he like ends up making out with the other chick. Like ugh, it's just classless.

francene:

It is, yeah, I be, I do appreciate though, that like. Charlotte's just like, home. And then she turns back, whereas I would have been like, you fucking dick. Like, get out.

coryne (2):

I know I would have thrown a full fucking fit. No, she, I mean, she's all like confused. Should

francene:

I be angry right now? Yes. Yes.

coryne (2):

She keeps it classy in true Charlotte fashion. Like, yeah, she's definitely classy, which I appreciate that.

francene:

So then they cut to the ladies are at Saturday farmer's market. And then they kind of go into kind of discussing. Okay, well, is kissing cheating? And that's when they started kind of discussing that, like, cheating curve. Okay, to what extent? It's only, I think it was the second date.

coryne (2):

Yeah. And that's what Samantha says. She's like, honey, if you tell me your second date and carries the one who's like, well, maybe he doesn't consider kissing cheating. And I'm like,

coryne:

what?

francene:

I know. But again, at the same place at an event, like if you're If you're not official, don't do it in front of the person,

coryne (2):

right? Like that's the thing is like, I understand it's only your second date. Maybe you aren't exclusive yet, but can, and she's Charlotte makes a good point. She's like, I thought I could like expect monogamy until the end of the night. I wasn't, I didn't say it's like,

francene:

Oh no. Oh, but I think Who was it that says the comment? I guess it's Samantha, but why does she say again? I wrote down that Samantha says, don't listen to every fucking voices in your head. Why did she say that again?

coryne (2):

Charlotte says Oh, what? Oh, so Charlotte's making the point. So Samantha is making the point that it's, it's in men's nature to cheat and that Samantha, Feels like she is this evolved being because she just recognizes human nature. Like, you know, that that's, you know, just the way that it works. Like, sometimes that happens. And Charlotte says that she's listening to the voice in her head that saying, you know, you must have a mate, you must have a mate, you must have a mate. Oh, right, right, right. That's it. Samantha says, honey, you can't listen to the voices in your head.

francene:

Yeah. She made me laugh. And then that's when Carrie got all very intellectual and was like, well, everyone has different ideas of cheating. So you define cheating in absolute terms. There's a cheating curve to what you determine is cheating versus then someone else. It's

coryne (2):

not black and white is the point she's making. I mean, I do see the logic in that for sure. We're not kissing, but like, I mean, I feel like in the, especially in the world that we live in now, it's like, you know, is it intercourse, this is where you're cheating or is it. Yeah.

coryne:

Is it when the tip's in? It's

coryne (2):

yeah. Yeah. Or is it like when the DMs start that you're not telling me about, like, where's the line of when the cheating began, you know what I mean? Like that. And I feel like I, I know where that starts. Like, I'm not, I'm giving no grace where that's concerned. Like, that's, no, there's cheating is the moment you're pouring into someone else's cup.

francene:

Yeah. You

coryne (2):

know, that's the kissing. Bye, bitch.

francene:

One is interesting too, because in, I think in this episode, they don't touch on like the emotional part. Like they're very, they're very much on like the, the, yeah, the very much the black and white piece. So you're not necessarily like thinking about those other elements of, okay, there's more to it.

coryne (2):

Also pre social media and cell phones.

francene:

I know. That's what I was wondering too. I'm like, was it that simple back then? Cause in reality, unless you're. At work or like you're out, like you're not really connecting with people the same way, whereas to your point, anyone can DM or even at work, you've got like instant messenger or I don't know, there's so much.

coryne (2):

Yeah, emails even like before we had all the DMs and stuff. Yeah, it's like you had before there was all the ways to communicate with people all over the world. It was like just what was in your soul. Yeah. And what you literally ran into, you know, on a daily basis in some regard. So yeah, I mean, which I guess like, did that lead to like much quicker hookups? Because like, there was an urgency to the situation.

francene:

I know. Yeah. Right?

coryne (2):

I would never see you again. Yeah. If I ever want to.

coryne:

Let's just do it right now. Really quickly. I want to make

coryne (2):

out. Like, I don't. Yeah. That's great.

francene:

And this is where I think it was Samantha again, who said the. The fact is, the act of cheating, the way I think she described it is, well then the act of getting caught, like what are the odds of them getting caught, and then one of the things that Carrie kind of ponders afterwards is, does cheating truly exist if no one knows?

coryne (2):

Yeah, I mean you gotta live with that shit.

francene:

I know.

coryne (2):

You know, like, you know, that person knows. I mean that's, you know, it's like the desert if a tree falls in the forest, but.

francene:

No one hears it, doesn't make a sound.

coryne (2):

Yeah, yeah.

coryne:

Yeah.

coryne (2):

I don't know. I, I mean, I everybody I, I know that's ever cheated or been cheated on, it always comes out.

francene:

Yeah.

coryne (2):

Find out like it always comes out one way or the other, you know, and I'm sure there's exceptions to that. I'm sure there's people who have, you know, had flings or whatever and nobody ever found out. But like, I don't know. I don't, I don't, I think that I mean, I guess it's whatever your moral compass allows. Personally, you know what I mean?

francene:

Yeah. No, I know it is interesting though thinking like what this is 25 years ago

coryne (2):

Right

francene:

is

coryne (2):

it and again

francene:

that was the kind of subject matter and I'm I'm curious too as we watch these episodes live when we go down the line to Carrie's situation. Yes I'm curious and reflecting on it then,

coryne (2):

how

francene:

we'll feel about it.

coryne (2):

Yeah, I have feelings about that it. Where we're going with that already.

francene:

Yeah.

coryne (2):

Carrie.

francene:

Oh, Carrie. I know. Okay. So then it switches to Sam and her trainer. And he's like pushing her and he's like, it's all about discipline. And I think is. Is this the bit where?

coryne (2):

They're just training at this point. They are just training, right? And like it, you know, like she's like totally turned on, of course, by like everything. I can't even imagine.

francene:

Could you imagine being her personal trainer and she just, she's got turned on with everything.

coryne (2):

Yeah. Yeah. Like she's,

francene:

so they're like

coryne (2):

I'm gonna do that lunge. Yeah. And he's like stretching her out at the end. He was like, how is that? She's like, you got me all wet. I. I mean, sweaty. You got me all sweaty. So honestly,

francene:

in this day and age, like knowing, you know, it was like the me too movement.

coryne:

Yes. Knowing there's,

francene:

there's, you're so limited. I mean, like from a guy's perspective, what you can say and like compliments and stuff. Could you imagine a real life Samantha Jones in this moment in time?

coryne (2):

Oh gosh. I mean,

francene:

they exist.

coryne:

They exist. But like, yeah, I mean, it's just The guys are like, I don't know what to do. What is this? A trap? Can you sign here for consent please? Thank you, Literally you'd be like, sign this. Yeah.

francene:

Oh my God. So then they go back to Charlottes at the gallery. Oh, so it's still Oh, he phones her. Sorry. He phones her the next day at the gallery. Yeah. And he's like giving all these pieces, pieces. Yes. This is when she has a product. Yes. And the guys are giving all these excuses and she's like, she just cuts them off and just hangs out. That

coryne (2):

guy. Yeah. Hold on. There it is. See, I

francene:

did have to sneeze.

coryne (2):

That guy. Like. The most lame excuses I've ever heard for literally hooking up with someone else in front of my fucking face at my job during my gallery opening. Like you gotta be freaking kidding me guy. And Charlotte's like, not, she's not hearing it thankfully, but I'm like the audacity of this not even mid looking dude. Like, what are you? Oh my God.

francene:

Again, phoning, Interesting he phones her work phone because again, back then, you didn't have a cell phone.

coryne (2):

Yeah. Can't call her. I mean, I guess he could have called her at home, but it's like, he probably was still, you know, recovering from screwing that other girl last night. So.

francene (2):

Yeah. Cause he continued, didn't he? Yeah. No. Yeah. They didn't stop. He was like, what? I'm just kissing. And he literally continued.

coryne (2):

Oh my god. Classless. So she hangs up on him because the power lesbians walk in to pick up their piece. And she ends up having like a great conversation with them and they invite her out to drinks.

francene:

And do you remember the name of the place they go to? Yes,

coryne (2):

the G Spot.

francene:

Oh my god, I was dying. I was like, oh, I love everything about this. Yes, for sure. And then, so, they go to G Spot for, for drinks, then dinner, and then they go dancing. Do you remember the place of, The, the place they go dancing.

coryne (2):

I remember the entrance looked like a pink keyhole. Oh

coryne:

my

coryne (2):

God.

coryne:

It's

coryne (2):

called the love tunnel. The love tunnel. That's it.

coryne:

And Charlotte. I love

francene:

all of it. She's living her best life.

coryne (2):

It's so just loving a moment where there's no men around, which is for Charlotte, you know, refreshing. And I

francene:

get that though. Like I love that moment. You know, when you're just like dancing, you're just having the best time with a good. Bunch of people and you just don't care. Just not

coryne (2):

worried about a single thing else, that is the best feeling, for sure. Like, not trying to hook up with nobody, not worried about pissing anybody off. Like, just doing your thing. I love it, for sure.

francene:

I love it. And then It cracked me up and then cuts to Miranda on that date and what are they talking about?

coryne (2):

Oh my God. A

francene:

holocaust documentary and then she kisses him like she's like, Oh my God, like you're just so smart. I'm

coryne (2):

like, Oh, I, I got the vibe of I'm going to kiss you to shut you up now.

francene:

Stop talking. Oh my God. Oh my God. You're just like so smart. I just can't. I'm like. Yeah. Bye. I don't know. That would not turn me on that conversation. Yeah.

coryne (2):

Well, the funniest thing is like she kisses him to shut it, shut him up and then cut to they're in his apartment and it's about to go down and he reaches over for a remote, like while he's kissing her without even missing a beat. I know. And clicks the TV on. And I love that it immediately goes to like, Full middle of the scene porn. There's a lot of porn in Sexy

coryne:

City.

francene:

There is a lot of porn. But it's always been Miranda too. Did you notice that? Like the smack guy? Oh my gosh. It's always Miranda. Yeah, except Carrie's

coryne (2):

the boy or

francene:

guy

coryne (2):

that she was watching and he was recording all the girls.

francene:

Oh yeah, that's true. That's true. Oh, yeah. Harvey Specter. You need to come up in every episode. But you know, what also made me laugh is the porn music. But it's like, you know, I mean, like getting on

coryne (2):

you know, how like, there's the people in the movie industry that do like all the, like in sitcoms and dramedies and all that stuff. Like they, you've seen it in like forgetting Sarah Marshall where he, Oh, yes, yes, yes. There's somebody who does that for poor.

francene:

They're like, how can we just like, spice this up, but still make it seem

coryne (2):

fun.

francene:

There's

coryne (2):

an

francene:

electric guitar

coryne:

on the

francene:

keyboard. Getting it on. I would be immediately turned off in that situation, the way he did it. Yeah. Yeah. None of it was like foreplay, ha, or like, hmm, let's put on some porn and get them in the mood. I'm like, I feel like they were already in the mood.

coryne (2):

Obviously, and it was obviously like the first time they were gonna do it, and like the first time you have sex with someone like that, you're like, there's, you don't need anything else. Like that in and of itself is so exciting. Like the, I, yeah, I feel like I'd have been real weirded out by that too. Yeah. I would've

francene:

had to have stopped. So I appreciate the Miranda keeps like, powering on, but then it it like it so it cuts to them again. He turned, she asked him to turn the sound off

coryne (2):

and he was like, or he offers to.

francene:

He's like, Oh, yeah,

coryne:

I can turn the sound down. And I'm like, Are you what I know, just turn it off. But then he asked her to move her

coryne (2):

head. I know. Oh, bad. Oh,

francene:

I hate that. I honestly I, I couldn't do it. I'd be like,

coryne (2):

I never I damn sure if I had stayed the course for whatever I could have never done it again. Like I would have never gone back to that guy. Like after that's the No, that's a big that's a big ale.

francene:

Because if it's the first, you know it's going to be like that every single time.

coryne (2):

Yeah, well downhill from there, like that, yeah, that's.

francene:

That guy now, speaking of technology, he must be in his element, right?

coryne:

He's like, I'm

francene:

going to find wherever I am, yeah.

coryne:

And then they,

francene:

they cut to, so Carrie's at Mr. Big's now, she's cooking and she made fondue and she's like. Oh, my God. I love her. I know. She melted cheese.

coryne:

Yeah.

francene:

And he's like, Oh, and then she tastes it and they're like, Oh, let's go to a restaurant. I feel like that's, that's how my cooking would be like my best ever.

coryne (2):

What is your like go to that you can make for dinner?

francene:

Oh, my go to? I make like, I don't want to, you know, be all big headed, but I make the best pesto pasta you will ever have.

coryne (2):

Well, that's amazing. That's great. Yeah. And

francene:

Luna loves it. But you know, once, when I started dating Aaron, I really wanted to impress him with, with cooking. So I tried to make rosemary bread completely fucked up. Bread's hard though. That's hard. It was harder than I thought, to be honest. Yeah. It didn't turn out okay. Then I made, I think it was like either steak or pork chops, but on top of it, just to make it like cute, I put on like edible gold flakes. Flakes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, what the hell is this So I try and do stuff like that. That's my type of cooking. I'm like, lemme add into this. That makes it like,

coryne (2):

cool. You need to put a little zazzle on. This will make it good. Yeah.

francene:

What's yours? What's your go-to? Well,

coryne (2):

I, so I am, I cook a lot, so I have like a, I, yeah.

coryne:

You're a

coryne (2):

good cook. Yeah. I'm a, I'm a really good cook. Not to brag, but I am a really good cook, not just Pat say that Mostly because Jason constantly compliments my cooking and. have ever been in a relationship with that. So I feel like I have a, my Google reviews are good.

coryne:

They're five star.

coryne (2):

But I make all kinds of. Really awesome things. I made this weekend, me and Crossan and McKenna made zucchini chocolate chip muffins.

francene:

Oh my God. Which I've

coryne (2):

seen one of my favorite chefs baked by Melissa. She makes this little cupcake. I love following her and she always does these really healthy, awesome, easy recipes. And she had made them and I was like, we're going to try that. They were so freaking delicious, like so good. The kids were going crazy and I mean, they had a bunch of zucchini in them.

francene:

Oh, let me try it. Wait, what's it called? Baked by Melissa?

coryne (2):

Here, I'll text you. On like,

francene:

Instagram? Oh, okay.

coryne (2):

Well, she, I follow her on TikTok, but you can follow her on Instagram too. And this recipe that I made is not hers. I just looked up one for it.

francene:

Okay. Because she made

coryne (2):

it with date syrup and I didn't have that. So I did it with something else. You're like,

francene:

let me alternative. I

coryne (2):

just put regular sugar in there. But I didn't make it. It was really so delicious for sure. Yeah, let

francene:

me try that. Cause I do, I have to admit, I do love baking. Yeah. I'm a much better baker than cook, to be honest.

coryne (2):

I like, I don't know that I like it more. I get in these moods sometimes where I want to like make baked things for the kids and for Jason. Stuff like that. But I like to like, you know, cook up some delicious dinners and stuff. That's good.

francene:

I feel like it's good to have one person in the relationship that likes that. Like, Aaron's a good cook. I'm like, thank you.

coryne (2):

Yeah, no, you definitely need at least one that's a good cook. If not,

francene:

I don't know what would happen.

coryne (2):

Jason makes the most unbelievable fajitas, and it's the one and only thing he cooks, and it is, like, I don't even want to go eat fajitas anywhere else. Like, they're so Oh, it's that good? Oh, my god, we'll have to have you guys over for them one day. Yeah, that's

francene:

when we need to have a fajita.

coryne (2):

So delicious, like, So good.

francene:

The best. Okay, where do

coryne (2):

we get

francene:

Carrie's cookie with

coryne (2):

big, it goes terribly

francene:

Oh, that's right. So then they're like, okay, let's go. He, he's like, let's go to a restaurant. Yeah. So then

coryne (2):

I don't, they don't show them at the restaurant though, do they? They're just like, they're showing them. Were they done?

francene:

What were they doing? Cause I wrote Well, that was

coryne (2):

after that that they go, because she, they don't show them at a restaurant. But the, cause then the next day is when the girls are all together and they're going to a movie.

francene:

But she then says, I haven't, where are they? Are they at a bar or something? She's like, I haven't told my friends. And he's like, same. And then I could tell. They're at the house, but

coryne (2):

she says that to him.

francene:

Okay. So maybe, maybe this happened before and she's like, Oh, same, but then she's like, wait about it. She's like, why haven't you told your friends?

coryne:

She's like, you don't have any friends,

francene:

but then he's like, well, why haven't you told your friends? And she says, what does she say? Does she tell him? No. Because I think it, I think it then cuts to her in her head saying the truth is she wasn't sure why she doesn't want to tell anyone.

coryne (2):

Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah, and then that's the end of like, it's just kind of like teasing that scene because then the next scene is when she's headed home at like 7.

francene:

7am and she bumps into Miranda. Which is

coryne (2):

so funny because remember we were talking in a previous episode about how like, you, you know, like the bumping into people, like, is that likely? Yeah. Yeah. There

francene:

must be bigs next to Miranda's work, which makes sense. A big financial

coryne (2):

district,

francene:

financials. That

coryne (2):

they're like in similar areas was so, yeah. So she, and she fully lies. It was like, Oh, teeth cleaning. And we're just like, it's seven.

francene:

She's like, you're kind of dressed up. And then the weirdest thing when she's like, Oh, it's like. Laundry day. She's like, Oh, that makes sense. I'm like, Carrie has the most amount of clothes. Like, are you doing laundry for like two months? Yeah. Like, do you ever do laundry?

coryne (2):

That's hilarious. Yeah. And then Miranda does divulge the whole issues with her man at 7 AM on the street. Cause that's Carrie trying to change the subject. She's like, how's it going? How's it going? Yeah. Oh,

francene:

and then this is the other element of the cheating curve with Like, why is it not good enough that it's just me, but I'm like, Miranda, why have you gone back?

coryne (2):

I know. Why? Yeah. When she says, she's like, I feel like he's cheating on the women in the videos with me. Yeah. That's how it feels. Yeah. So that's tying it back to the cheating curve. Yeah.

francene:

And then the other thing tying back to cheating curve is then. I don't know if she says it or she, she obviously ponders it, but she says she feels like she's cheating on her friends with Mr. Big.

coryne (2):

No. Poor baby.

francene:

I know. Like, I feel like I would have said it. I don't think I would have been able to hold in something like that. I would have been like, oh my god, guess who I saw last night.

coryne (2):

For sure, the moment, the first time I saw him, as soon as he left, I would have called my best friend. Yeah,

francene:

literally. And be like, you're never gonna guess what. And they would have been like, how did this happen? Oh, I called him. I called him. Yeah, exactly. I called him. They're like, oh, it

coryne (2):

took

francene:

months.

coryne (2):

That's why she doesn't want to tell them. Oh, that's true. Because she's the one who initiated it.

francene:

Yeah, that's true.

coryne (2):

Yeah,

francene:

for sure. So then, of course, we cut to Samantha Jones and she is, she's, she's, she's, she's I think she sleeps with or she slept with her trainer. And then he was like, Oh, just so you know, like I don't typically sleep with my clients and you know, Samantha laps up those types of comments.

coryne (2):

I mean, how do they end up in the shower together?

francene:

So I think she went into the shower and he then came in or potentially the other way around knowing Samantha Jones. And then he was like, let me shave your legs. And then your bikini, I'm like, that, another thing I was like, I couldn't think of anything worse than someone shaving my legs. Right? I don't know. It's like Samantha Jones gets turned on by things that, I'm like, none of that would be hot to me.

coryne (2):

Intimate. Like it's, that's, especially for like, you just, the first time you ever had sex with somebody. And it's your

francene:

trainer.

coryne (2):

It's very intimate. I don't

coryne:

know that. I've never had a guy shave my legs. I have. And it, you know. Was it nice? It's, ehhh. Should we all try it? No, I mean it's, I don't

coryne (2):

care if it ever happens again. Like it was, you know, like, it's just super intimate. I don't know. Like, even with Jason, like, we'll be like, let me wash your back for you when I'm in the bath or something. I mean, it's so sweet and kind and yeah, it's okay. Yeah. Good.

francene:

I know. I wonder if it's you know, it's weird though. Cause now I'm thinking about it and now I'm like, I think it's like this shower. I'm like, it's my shower.

coryne (2):

It's like private space. A little

francene:

bit. Yeah. It's also never like the movies, like when I see like a sex. I'm a shower scene. Walls are so slippery. It's so slippery.

coryne (2):

And the walls are freezing in the shower. I don't know what sh Like, you can't push up again. I'm like, oh, God, don't let me touch the wall. Please though. There, I, there's, I No, no shower sex is great. It's like, necessity is the only reason to do it in the shower. It's like, there's no other option Yeah. Ah, great. Like I, it's never like it is in the movies. I, I do we used to have a shower that like a double headed shower. Do you remember that?

francene:

Oh, I've always wanted one of those. Yes. The house you rented. Yes. NASA people.

coryne (2):

Yes. It was like, and it wasn't just a double headed shower. It was fully like two separate shower stalls. Like your own controls. The whole, that shower was amazing. Like that, I totally would not do. Yeah. But like, I got my own hot water. You got your own hot water. Don't come over here.

francene:

I wonder if it's different for a guy. They obviously like it. Guys think it's hard. Yeah, I think guys like it.

coryne (2):

Guys definitely do. I mean, I, I don't mind it. I like, and I take, I take, Jason and I take baths together all the time. Cause we both really, really like baths. I don't mind that, but that's not sexual.

francene:

Right. Yes. Yes.

coryne (2):

Do it in there. Yeah. You know,

francene:

I don't want to relax and have this moment together.

coryne (2):

It's intimate, but either like relaxing way, not in a sexual way. You know, I hear

francene:

you.

coryne (2):

Yeah, for sure. But anyway, so I'm going to ask after

francene:

this, I'm going to find out, but yeah, he shaves a. Yeah. Yeah. Lightning bolt.

coryne (2):

First of all, shocked that Sam, Samantha has pubes like that. She, you know what I mean? Like,

francene:

but I also, well, yes. However, I'm not because when they go to LA, do you remember they're like, Oh, I just went and got a Brazilian. Like, have you heard of this before? So I feel like

coryne:

it

coryne (2):

wasn't, I don't know.

francene:

Waxing wasn't as probably a big thing.

coryne (2):

No, and maybe, yeah, you're right. I think it's the time frame. I think so. Yeah, I think if

francene:

we were like at the end of the season. Oh, there's no way in hell. She would have any

coryne (2):

for sure. Yeah, yeah. She's fully Brazilian at all times. There's no, yeah. Yeah. So I guess maybe that's why, but he shapes a lighting bulb, which is hilarious. And then cut to that's like the end of that scene. And then we're now we're back to Charlotte with the, the lesbian girls. Like that's all they show of her and oh boy, right?

francene:

Yeah, I think so. So then oh, that's so funny. So I just read my notes and I'm like, Ew, the management of pubic hair, why were they not waxing? I wrote to myself. So then, yeah, so Charlotte then continues to meet her new friends.

coryne (2):

She's having like so much fun with them, obviously, but did where do we have the conversation yet where she tells? No, I know

francene:

so they are actually at Harry's house That's it Samantha then starts talking about the lightning bolt and she was like it felt like I was being Branded and the girls are like what and then Charlotte then talked about all of her new friends and Miranda says Hey I think she says when she was at school, she was like a major lesbian. And then she's like, Charlotte, I feel like you're leading them on.

coryne (2):

Wait, Miranda says she was a major lesbian?

francene:

No, but I Did she say something like that? I wrote that. Miranda says she was But she did.

coryne (2):

Why do I feel like she did? Or did she

francene:

try it?

coryne (2):

When she was like She said when I was in fourth grade or something like that. It was like, it was like way younger, which I thought was funny because, yeah, that's Anyway. Because I

francene:

think they're putting it back to I mean, I feel like we all had that moment at school. Like, I remember I used to make out with my girlfriends and I swear we only did it

coryne (2):

Yeah. Yeah. I know. Same. I hate that. I hate that we did that. Looking back.

francene:

No, I know. Yeah, we used to do that a lot. Oh my god. Which is very bad. Yeah.

coryne (2):

But yeah, Miranda's like, you're leading them on, and I think Samantha gets in on it too, or like, all collectively, they're like, No, yeah, because Carrie's in the bathroom, so Samantha and Miranda are really coming down on her about like, No, you have to tell them, you have to tell them you're straight, like, you cannot lead them on.

francene:

Yes, and this is where Charlotte was like, Can straight women and gay women, can they not be friends? Yeah. Yes, but you need to tell them.

coryne (2):

Yeah, they have to know what they're, yeah, what they're doing, which I think is so funny. It's like the yeah, so it's, it's like the, can guys and girls be friends? It's like the same thing with lesbians. Yeah.

francene:

It is very interesting. So then, yeah, they're supposed to be going to the movies and then they're like, Carrie, what is going on right now? You're taking so long. Been

coryne (2):

in the bathroom forever.

francene:

And Carrie comes out and she's like, my diaphragm is stuck. What is that? Oh, a diaphragm?

coryne (2):

Yeah, what is that? So, I'm so glad you said that, because like, Carrie brings up a diaphragm several times, and there's

francene:

somebody else. They sponsor it? No, no, no, I'm thinking

coryne (2):

Seinfeld. There's this whole Seinfeld episode about Oh, Elaine, the diaphragm she uses is, is going off the market and she's like freaking out. Anyway, so a diaphragm is a form of birth control that's like a plastic, like flexible plastic cup and you like stick it up and it like is supposed to like sit around your cervix.

coryne:

Oh.

coryne (2):

To keep semen from going into that. So it's like a lid. Yeah, I think that's how, I've never used one. I can't, I don't know why in the fucking world, anyone, like, would you, I don't get, like, especially in the early 2000s, like, why weren't you on birth control? There was like a thousand different kinds of birth control at that point. Or just use a condom. But like, No. Diaphragm. Anyway, so that's what it is. So I guess like before you have sex, and I guess you could use, I'm like, does it

coryne:

hit it? Yeah. And like,

coryne (2):

I mean, maybe look into this a little bit more, but does it stay there? Like, how do you keep it right there? Like, I feel like you could knock that thing around pretty easily.

francene:

I know. I feel like I need to like fully like, Google this.

coryne (2):

We need a, we need a diaphragm of how a diaphragm works. I know, I was, yeah, a diagram, a

francene:

diagram, and then when she was like, it's stuck. I'm like. Oh, so you must be up in there trying to like get it out. But I'm like, how would it be stuck?

coryne:

Well, it's

francene:

like,

coryne:

and I've like, some people lose tampons. I know. I

francene:

like quite understand that either. I'm like, where does it go?

coryne:

Like, what? How did you, how could, is your vagina? Honestly,

francene:

I remember hearing that story when I was younger. And I swear to God, it made me so paranoid about losing them that I'm forever like, is the string still there? I'm like,

coryne (2):

gotta always

francene:

make sure it's okay.

coryne (2):

I have been on, I've had an IUD since I was 22, so, or 23. So like, I haven't had periods. Ever.

francene:

Ugh. You are so lucky.

coryne (2):

I know. I honestly, I hate having periods. I've probably used 12 tampons in my whole life. Like.

coryne:

Stop. Oh my god. Yeah, I never.

coryne (2):

Because before that, like, I was never, I don't know if it was that I was worried about I never, tampons were never my vibe. Like, they just never did it for me. So I, and then I, yeah, I haven't, I haven't had consistent periods. I've never had a period ever. It's amazing. Love it. In my whole life. I've had, like, since I was twenty Watching you, like, living your

coryne:

best life.

coryne (2):

I know. Since I was twenty three, I've probably had less than ten. Two of which were, well, one, one right before I got pregnant with Croston, because I took it out, had a period, got pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. Like the perfect scenario. Ugh. And then three months after, you know, I had her, like, I had, I think I had three And then you're like, Well, no, because you had to maybe I had to wait six months and I only had three because you know your body's like Yeah, yeah for the first few months when I was breastfeeding and stuff and then I got another IUD, you know Yeah, oh,

francene:

I hate it. Like one of my girlfriends. I swear we were like in sync We like text each other every month being like, oh This is the worst the

coryne (2):

worst cosmic joke ever Actually, do you know

francene:

what's funny? I don't know if it's funny or not. So Luna went for her annual checkup today. She's six, right? Yeah. And the doctor was like, all right, let's, you know, check all your stuff, blah, blah, blah. Then she checked her test and down below just, and I was like, what, what are you checking for? And she was like, just checking for puberty. And I was like, right, she's six. What do you mean? And she was obviously saying this in front of Luna. And then she said, well, you know, like soon. She's going to get her period. And I was like, well, I'm sorry. I was like 13, 14. I was like, and Luna said, what's a period. And I was like, why aren't answering this? This is the only time in my life where a doctor's present that you can explain this better than I can.

coryne (2):

You have a job. You have a degree in this.

francene:

I'm like, you explain this to your child. Anyway, she explained it to her and Luna was like, Oh,

coryne (2):

you're like, yeah.

francene:

Yeah. Fucking sucks. But I was like, I'm like, what is the youngest? And she was like eight. Yeah, a time.

coryne (2):

Which is still insane. Insane. But I'm like, what? But why are we

francene:

talking about that as sick? I know. I thought the same. Honestly, I was like, well. That makes me

coryne (2):

uncomfortable.

francene:

Yeah. And I was like, well, I'm glad, like, you explained it. And she did it very simply. And Luna was totally over it. And, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't say anything else. And I was like, oh well, phew, we've done that then.

coryne (2):

Oh my god, Cross and I only had that conversation like six months ago because she's, you know, she just turned 10 last weekend and I, you know, there are signs that it could not be that far off for her.

francene:

Yeah.

coryne (2):

I was like two weeks away from 14. Yeah, I, I

francene:

said to the doctor and she was like, oh, you were pretty advanced. Oh, then I was like, I was like, I don't know. Cause I don't remember my, my friends being that far away from me.

coryne (2):

No, I remember when we were, when I was that age, like if you started at 12, it was like, Whoa. Yeah. Young. Yeah. So, I mean, we all started at like 13 or 14. My best friend didn't start until she was two weeks away from 15. Yeah.

francene:

Looking back now though, she was living her best life. Cause I remember being like, I can't wait to get mine, cause I wanted to be like, A woman. And then I was like, Damn it! No one told me. And you know what, I will say, I was telling Erin, it made me laugh. She, she said to Luna, she was like, Don't worry, it doesn't hurt. And I was like, well that's a fucking lie. Lie. Lies and fallacies. Don't you lie to

coryne (2):

my daughter. You need a new pediatrician, that's it.

francene:

Right? So, the diaphragm is stuck Listen,

coryne (2):

bold, bold. Carrie's like, one of you bitches has got to help me. And she's like, either I have to go, I have to do an emergency visit to my gyno, which first of all, who's gyno is meeting you on a Saturday night. I was like, is that urgent care? It's called the emergency room. Gyno's not meeting you. And then she's like, which one of you girls is going to help me? And I mean, listen. Samantha's like, just have my nails

francene:

done.

coryne (2):

Let's do this.

francene:

But then afterwards, when they do get out, they're like, wait, oh, as they were walking to the movies, they're like, wait, who are you sleeping with?

coryne:

Busted. I know. I'm surprised

francene:

she told them, but I guess she was like, you know, now's the

coryne (2):

time. I'm not gonna lie anymore. And I will say, like, I feel like they were pretty harsh on her. They were.

francene:

That was a lot.

coryne (2):

Yeah, and she got pissed really quickly, but like I feel like I would have acted

francene:

the same. You think so? I yeah, I feel like if everyone gangs up to that extent I feel like oh, it's in my head I was like, I just need to walk away.

coryne (2):

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would have acted the same way Carrie did too Yeah, like as a friend I would have come down on you that hard.

francene:

Yeah, same. I feel like I would have been a bit more like playful. Like, yes. Hey, like, how did this happen? And yeah, like, how are you? I'd be more like, how are you feeling about it?

coryne (2):

Yeah,

francene:

you're okay. Okay. I would have

coryne (2):

made fun of you in a lighthearted way. I wouldn't have like, come

francene:

back here. But yeah, they were they were a lot. It's the dick,

coryne (2):

isn't it? It's the dick. That's what it is. Like, that's

francene:

it. But yeah, I do feel bad. And then she was like, oh, well, it feels good. And they were like, well, if it feels so good, why are you sneaking behind like, and I also thought that was a little bit. Uncalled for, because I do understand, as much as I probably would tell everyone, I understand her being cautious, being like, okay, I want to make sure, like, where is this going to go? Like, is it worth it before I say anything? And probably because she did take so long to get over it. Yeah.

coryne (2):

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the truth is like, those are your best, best friends that you tell everything to. And it's like, even if it ends or you decide not to do it, Before like, like what, like, let's say you hang out two or three, you still are going to need to talk about the fact that it happened that you're not doing it anymore. So like, you know, like I think Carrie's bad for not telling them about, she obviously, Like one of my best friends is like, like that, like in the past, she's not that way anymore, but she went through some rough stuff and like, she wouldn't tell me about things. And then like six months later, she would like divulge all this. And I'm like, why?

coryne:

And she's like, cause I knew I was fucking up and I didn't want you to tell me that. Like I already knew.

coryne (2):

Yeah, I didn't need, I needed someone to sign off on my bad decisions in that moment, not speak logic. I don't have any logic in my life at that moment. Fair. So, you know, I think Carrie's in the same position.

francene:

I know, I think so too. So she walks away and then they cut to Charlotte. She's at a party brunch thing. And I guess seems like the Upper East Side and

coryne (2):

nice house. Very nice. Yeah,

francene:

very nice. She's with the power lesbian group. And they invite her away on a trip and it's Pat Patty's.

coryne (2):

Well, the girl that has been the, like, consistent one that she's been, like, hanging out with the most, whose name I'm going to forget. I never like her. I think she likes her. This is the first moment where I can, like, tell, like, oh, she's, like, likes Charlotte.

francene:

Yeah, I thought the same. Yeah.

coryne (2):

Yeah, and they're talking, she's like, oh, she has this beautiful house, and, like, Telluride. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. She's been with us for Easter and Charlie's like, oh my gosh, I would love to. And then she meets this Patty person whose home it is, and the person who owns the house in Telluride and like they're having a conversation and the girl that's really into Charlotte's like, I'm gonna get us a drink. You want some champagne? And she walks away and Patty's like, cut to the point. Yeah. Literally strange. She's like, are you gay? Listen bitch, are you gay? And I love how she's like.

francene:

I just love this so much, though, and it's just been so freeing. Yes,

coryne (2):

yeah, and she's like, I just, la la la, and Patty's like, look, bitch, if you don't eat pussy, you're not a dyke. I'm like, whoa! That's exactly what she says,

francene:

and I'm like,

coryne (2):

what's the pearls?

francene:

I know, I didn't, I also didn't love the, like I'd be curious on, I guess someone who is like inclined that way and what they would think about this. Cause I don't think it's the best interpretation of like how a group of women like that would truly act. Like, I understand being like, Okay, if you're not gay, like, I highly recommend, like, just be open with us, and, you know what I mean, like, we kind of thought you were, and, like, that's a okay, like, we're good, we can still be friends, but I hate the fact it's like, well, you're out the girth. Yeah,

coryne (2):

I know, I don't think that's realistic. I don't think

francene:

so

coryne (2):

either. Yeah. I don't know, though.

francene:

And I feel bad, because Charlotte, like, truly, like, innocent wise, I think it was bringing out a good part of her.

coryne (2):

Yeah.

francene:

Being like, like, I don't know, that independence and, like, the girl power piece on, like, I can still be okay, like, myself, and taking her away from, like, I'm constantly just thinking about getting a guy, but Well,

coryne (2):

it's, yeah, and even with, like, you know, her best friends, it's like, even if you're trying not to, it's like, they, they're, somebody's always gonna be having guy drama, you know?

francene:

Right, yeah, so, yeah, if anything, I think it was a good point for her, but anyway, Charlotte never sees these friends again. And that's the end of that. That's the end of them. So sad. And then we cut to Samantha, and she's in the steam room, and also another odd scene. This girl looks down at Samantha, obviously who is fully naked because she's Fully loving herself. And is she

coryne (2):

not.

francene:

I know, and I love that. And the girl steps, like, directly in front of her and, like, opens her towel. And it's like, that asshole.

coryne (2):

Yeah, and Samantha obviously sees that she has the same lightning bolt that Samantha has, like, And I love that Samantha's like a little miffed. Like, she's like, Ugh. I know! Yeah, she's a little pissed off about it.

francene:

And I love the the commentary over the top by Carrie being like, lightning really does strike twice. I love those moments of sex.

coryne (2):

Those wood lighters are so good. They're so good. Yeah, hilarious. From there they cut back to this is the Big and carrier out to dinner, dancing. This is when they're

francene:

dancing.

coryne (2):

I love, it's like a supper club and there's dancing. I know. And it's like, so like 1940s. I know. Even her dress, because her dress was

francene:

very big, so, and they look so

coryne (2):

beautiful. She looks dapper and like that is like such a dreamy date. Like I that I would love to go on a date like that. Yeah.

francene:

Same. I don't think I ever have.

coryne (2):

No, I mean, I don't think I've ever dated anyone

francene:

Who would want to go with me? Or even just like, again, like the suit. Yes. I think about it all the time. I like, he wears like a suit, like a proper suit out for dinner and they go to like, really great places.

coryne (2):

Yeah. And the dancing and the muse, it's like a live. He dances. Oh yeah. And he's like, that's like, he's dead. Yeah. And he's having as much fun as she is, but she takes this moment. Like she's decided she wants to. Quantify clarify where they're at. And so she's, you know, in her monologue saying, like, I think he, he must feel that I need to talk to him. So we brought me somewhere distracting. So we can't talk yet, but she brings it up anyway. And she definitely dodges around the subject, but just like, basically, like, so are we back together or not? And he's like, if you

francene:

say so, and then he continues to twirl

coryne (2):

her around. Yes. And she's like, that's the most infuriating answer ever, which girl, for real, like that is so infuriating. And then she's like pressing it, which I appreciate. And he, and he does make a good point. He's like, you know, she's like, why did we break up in the first place? He's like, you tell me. You tell me. I know I love that. You're the one who left me standing there with two tickets to St. Bart's and I'm like, Oh, way to call her on her

francene:

shit, Vic. Way to call her. I know! And then in her head, she's like, Oh no, did she, she said out loud. She was like, I guess I was afraid. Well she

coryne (2):

Before she says that, she monologues, like, well, she says, say out loud to him, you didn't tell me what I wanted to hear.

francene:

Yes, and then he's still sweeping around the dance floor. Yeah, yeah, and it was like,

coryne (2):

oh, was that it? That's all that I did wrong?

francene:

But I do love, like, Big, and again, the way they, like, end the scenes is him being like, but I can tell you one thing. I sure didn't miss you. And I listened to a lot of Sinatra.

coryne (2):

I know. I kind of thought, I mean, I know that's some real bullshit, but like, I would have lapped

francene:

that up.

coryne:

I'm like, Oh

coryne (2):

my God. I was lapping it up and it's not even happening to me. That was like, because she asked him, she's like, Oh, did you cry? Which I love that she pokes at him. Yeah. It's like, no, but I listened to an awful lot of Sinatra and I was like, Oh, that's the heart that warms the heart. That's, that's a great ending scene for sure. They're so cute. And then Carrie, doesn't she monologue? She's like, so I guess we were officially back together.

francene:

Yeah. So I think they're now fully official. And then the next one that. Is the chicken dance. The chicken dance.

coryne (2):

I don't remember this one at all. But we'll see. No spoilers. Oh, this is

francene:

a good one. Oh, this is more centered around Oh, yes! This is a good one. This is centered more around, like, Miranda.

coryne (2):

Oh, gosh. Exciting. Can't wait for that. Can't even wait. This is

francene:

gonna be a good one to like break down.

coryne (2):

I'm excited for this. Well, listen, we promised to get back on our shit and put out our weekly episodes instead of making you guys wait, because we know that it's so hard to wait for the next episode.

francene:

Everyone's like, Oh my God, when's this coming? When's it coming?

coryne (2):

Hurry, hurry up. Yeah, we're

francene:

back, back on schedule.

coryne (2):

Yes, for sure. So.

francene:

See everyone soon. It could be like the porn music people.

coryne (2):

Yeah. We need to do a porn version of the sex outro. Oh my God.