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City After Dark Season 2 Episode 8 The man, the myth & the viagra

• francene & coryne • Season 2 • Episode 8

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We are back, after a sneaky happy hour in the city drinking PornStar Martini's for Season 2 Episode 8. it's a great one!

After walking out on her date who turned out to be still married despite his claim to be divorced, Miranda is happy to be picked up by cocky barman Steve, who soon wants more then their one-night stand. Carrie believes her rekindled relationship with Mr. Big is good enough to get him to know her friends a little better. Samantha has an atypical lover, even for a man-eater like her: Donald Trump's single friend Ed is past 70, so will his old-fashioned wooing and lavish gifts outweigh his physical decay?

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CORYNE:

howdy. Hi. I see that you kept drinking and I am proud of you. So did I.

FRANCENE:

I'm not gonna lie. I was a little boozy.

CORYNE:

I know those things are not playing around for sure. They I feel like they get their name honest.

FRANCENE:

I was like the minute you went to leave, I downed like a whole pint of water and then I realized how small my bladder was because I literally pissed myself on the way home.

CORYNE:

Yeah. No, I, as I was leaving, I was like, man, I really need to go to the bathroom. I need to pick crossing up in two minutes and it's a five minute drive. And so I was like, it'll be fine. We'll make it home. And then of course she gets in the car and she's like, mom, can we get Chick fil A for dinner? And I'm like, no, like we got to get home. That's tonight. So anyway, we stopped and got Chick fil A obviously. I'm a great negotiator. And So then by the time I got home, I was equally in a sense of urgency that I had to go to the bathroom immediately.

FRANCENE:

So me and Corinne this evening, we ended up going for a happy hour at Wild's. It was wild in Houston. It was wild. And we had a star martini, but they called it what

CORYNE:

a wild star martini laugh that because wild is a bar. It's very unique in Houston because it is a full blown. Cannabis bar where you can go in and buy all the things now in Texas if you guys don't know marijuana is not Technically legal.

FRANCENE:

How do they get away with that?

CORYNE:

Cuz they're well My understanding is it like it's a it's about the percentage of it in the product you're buying and they're getting of what around It they're skirting around it by All of the Delta things, but all those products in there have straight up THC in them. They just can't have more than like a certain amount. And then they're married that with Deltas, which are a derivative of THC, but it comes from Hemp, not marijuana, which is

CORYNE (2):

like

CORYNE:

marijuana's educated cousin. So there, but anyway, it's straight. And the cool thing about that place is they, whatever they did, they have proper licensing where they can put the, the THC stuff into all their coffees and their foods and they can serve alcohol. They just can't put it in alcohol, which to be fair. Nobody needs you to put it in alcohol. Okay.

FRANCENE:

If they'd had that tonight,

CORYNE:

but I, I've been there before and had a coffee and they're like, how much THC would you like in your coffee? And I'm like, Cute place, really great decor, but they serve this martini that is called a wild star martini. Francine, being from the UK, sussed it out real early on that it's a spin off, I guess, Francine, of what they call a porn star martini in the UK. So delicious, passion fruit, Martini and they serve it with a, a shot of champagne. Yeah. They did

FRANCENE:

it honestly so well.

CORYNE:

Like what, what is better than that?

FRANCENE:

I know I actually did say to the bartender when I was like, Hey. He was like, Hey, what do you want? I was like, can I have some water? And then I could tell there was a little bit of judgment. We came, came probably thinking I just, you know what I mean? Walked in for what? Walked in. And then I was like, oh, just, just to say I was like, that was. We're going to be talking about the best cocktail I've had since I came to Houston, blah, blah. And he was like, thank you. And he was like, he was the one that wanted to add that to the menu. And I was like, well, thank

CORYNE:

you. Well done, sir. We will be back. Yeah. We

FRANCENE:

will be

CORYNE:

back. The best part of the story too, is that Brantina and I make this plan to meet up for happy hour, which, you know, is a rare occasion in our career slash mom life lives. And we are going to meet there at five. I get there at 4. 55. Excited as hell. I go ahead and order two of the I left so

FRANCENE:

early from work too. Yeah.

CORYNE:

Well, poor Francine has to drive in like traffic in Houston. She's gonna, she's gonna traverse like a full hour to get there. I'm dropping my daughter off at her afternoon activities and I have two hours and it's like around the corner from that, which is awesome. So I get there, I go ahead and order two cause Francine's going to be there any minute. And she texts me, she's like 10 minutes away. Perfect. Awesome. I'm like,

CORYNE (2):

I

CORYNE:

don't even want to fully sample this before Francine gets here, but I can't help it. Cause it's so pretty. Check our Instagram feed for photos. And so I like, I start drinking mine. And then Francine, I like, I sent her a picture. I was like, Oh, you know, got a spot ready. She's like, I'm five minutes away. And then she texted like 10 minutes later and she's like, so apparently there's now two locations in Houston. I'll be there in 20 minutes. Long story short, I drank both of the first martinis. They were good. They're quite delicious. At least quite delicious for sure.

FRANCENE:

I know. Well, I need to test out the next one next time, but it's just not as close.

CORYNE:

Yeah. We're just come down not on a, you know, weekday. Well, I know the other one. Yeah, I definitely want to see that. That's cool. I'm proud of them that they have two locations now. That's awesome.

FRANCENE:

I know it was a vibe and y'all like listeners. You will be glad to hear we're gonna get together next Friday. We're gonna do in

CORYNE:

Person POD

FRANCENE:

podcast

CORYNE:

with potential significant other feature.

FRANCENE:

I know I already kind of said to Ally,

CORYNE:

see how many drinks we can. Why the boys with to see if you can come in and get them. I mean, it could be like a a like after pod recap with us to, you know, I just want,

FRANCENE:

what are your thoughts on sex and city? Tell us everything.

CORYNE:

Give us like a, we need a 60 second recap on what you think of what Aaron at least has watched most of it. She's such a

FRANCENE:

secret fan.

CORYNE:

He is. He doesn't want to be

FRANCENE:

like, what did you watch? I

CORYNE:

just heard y'all talk about some crazy stuff. Okay. What in hell?

FRANCENE:

You know what though? Like speaking of guys and a perspective There is a guy I follow on Instagram. He is an entrepreneur in Houston. So Jeremy Jensen, have you heard of him before? No. Okay, so I messaged him tonight and I was like, Hey, it would be cool to have your perspective on the pod, and let me tell you, Corin, I'm gonna send over his previous podcast. He now has one called Path to Success Pod. So it's all about, you know what I mean, like CEOs and. successful people and how they've done it. But I will tell you, I followed him prior and he used to have this podcast and I've forgotten the name of it now. And it was basically a man's perspective. And I used to listen to it and I was like, man, I would love to interview him because he's such a raw, you know what I mean? Like a raw guy's perspective. He just say it as he thinks about it. And I appreciate that. So anyway, I messaged him tonight and I was like, Hey, Is that for happy hour with my podcast girl I told him about you and I was like, will you come on our podcast? And he was like, yes.

CORYNE (2):

Oh,

FRANCENE:

yeah.

CORYNE:

Listen, it's official. He said it. We're doing it. I love it.

FRANCENE:

That's why I was like, I'm going to bring it up tonight. It's done.

CORYNE:

Come on. When we do some in person video pods. Yes. On location. Yeah, I

FRANCENE:

know I was actually messaging him being like who produces your podcast and he's like super rich and he has someone doing it I was like, okay Well, of course you do Okay, so this is a good episode we have season 2 episode 8 the man the myths The Viagra. Did you immediately have like, an image of the the

FRANCENE (2):

Ass? Yeah.

FRANCENE:

I did. I was like, I know this one immediately. That's

CORYNE:

like the standout image from this episode. I can't unsee that. Samantha, thank you. I cannot.

FRANCENE:

Interesting, there are like certain episodes where, yes, I truly can't unsee it, and I always go back to the one at the ballgame, when Samantha's like looking out and she sees One of the baseball players cock.

CORYNE:

Yes. That one's hard to forget too. That was We reviewed that episode. Yeah, that one's quintessential Scarred your brain like this It's either not on netflix or we fully imagined it. I definitely did

FRANCENE:

it. I know that was a legit thing I can still see it

CORYNE:

in my mind It was there. I saw it

FRANCENE:

I

CORYNE:

saw it.

FRANCENE:

So what I love about this one is You The connection, bringing it back to like the urban myth, like, relationships that I know we will go on to kind of talk about, like, in, you know, kind of some of the scenes, but it's so funny how you're like, well, my friends, friend they got together and everything was perfect and blah, blah, blah. And you always go off of the friend of the friend.

CORYNE:

I know there's always that. I love that they touched on this in the show in general, but it's like these, these myths that we tell, we told, we don't, I don't feel like we do that anymore, but like we told each other in our early twenties of like, we're like justifying the bad behavior of the. Terrible men. We chose to be in relationships. Then we're like, no, but like, I know a girl who knows a girl who knows a girl that like the same thing happened and it worked out like, which, which essentially we were just encouraging each other to accept like below bar treatment from people at a young age, where I hope that like the next generation is more progressive than that. And like, they, I don't do that anymore, but I don't know that to be true. I feel like, I don't know. I just take

FRANCENE:

it from like movies. You know what I mean? When I was growing up, it was maybe less of the, the friend of a friend, but I would watch like romantic movies and be like, that is the happily ever after. Whereas in reality, you know what I mean, it's not necessarily like that or they don't show the next part of those individuals getting married and then how life truly is.

CORYNE:

Well, and that's the thing is like, I feel like well, that's, it's still true though. It's like, we, you know, definitely in, you know, our generation of like the media and watching. Shows and movies and all that stuff. Like there was no Realistic viewpoint of like past the big wedding past the big ring And the big party, like there was no realistic view of like what you were signing yourself up for or like what it actually means to commit to somebody and like, you know, just do life together.

FRANCENE:

Yeah, which is why I always liked Sex and the City. However, after last week's episode, I would love to know how the happy couple are doing with their end table.

CORYNE:

For sure. I also feel like while we want to give Sex and the City credit for like showcasing Of the things that were like urban myths at that time. We also have a full blown Carrie and Big relationship, which is the, you know, complete opposite of that of like the, you know, the whole thing of like, it's on again, off again, like he won't give her what she needs. Like, yeah, so it's like we're, while they're trying to be progressive, they're also showing us the, you know, quintessential like, worst version of what you should be accepting in a relationship. Yeah.

FRANCENE:

So true. Outside of this episode, Big thrives. I'm here for Big throughout this whole episode.

CORYNE:

This episode would have kept me in a relationship with big for the next year. Remember that one time you were that one time he did that thing. Remember constantly bringing it back, constantly, but that one time, but the one time he was really good over that time.

FRANCENE:

So this episode. Starts off at Big's favorite Italian restaurant, they're laughing, they're having the best date, they're at a great table and then he introduces Carrie to the owner as his girlfriend. And you saw, saw Carrie's face. You think that toothbrush made a difference? Whoa. We're gone. She's married.

CORYNE:

Yeah. No, we're all the way down the aisle. She

FRANCENE:

immediately imagined it. We see it in her eyes.

CORYNE:

And

FRANCENE:

she's like, you never called me that before. And he's so confidently is like, sure. I have just not your face. And I'm like, Oh, even better. Like you say behind my back, what I know I'm like, you were talking all the love languages that we want to know. And then as they're enjoying their evening, the owner invites Big to the stage and Carrie's like, Oh my God, don't do it. This is crazy. And the owner had just finished singing. And Big's like, I've got it. I do it all the time. I know. I love it. Yeah. I know.

CORYNE:

I love that. And I love, it's so funny. I love how like, so embarrassed.

FRANCENE:

And then I don't know the name of the song, but it's the one that's, when I was 17, it wasn't really bad. I don't know that I recognize it.

CORYNE:

Go ahead. Keep singing it.

FRANCENE:

But she's like. What's interesting in the scene when you cut to her, she spits out her wine. She's cracking up everyone else around them are like captivated with big. And then she's like, Oh, okay.

CORYNE:

I mean, I get it. I get it. I totally get it from the rest of the restaurant. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, I feel like when you're with

FRANCENE:

him,

CORYNE:

yeah. Or

FRANCENE (2):

like, He's look at him. He's so

CORYNE:

confident. He's wearing a suit.

FRANCENE:

But I love it. And you can tell like, at the end of that scene, when Carrie is just like looking at him, she's like, Oh my God. It

CORYNE:

was like, I get it. I get why you're so like, I get why it's going to take you four more seasons and a movie to rectify. I understand. Oh my

FRANCENE (2):

God. For sure.

FRANCENE:

For sure. As all the listeners are thinking, Corinne, you've no idea what's to come. Yeah.

FRANCENE (2):

Oh, I don't even know. I don't

FRANCENE:

even know. But what's interesting about this episode is how they completely contrast Carrie with Miranda. So immediately cuts to Miranda. And I forgot about this scene, but she's sitting in a comedy club with a guy that she's dating. And the common comedian is like the worst, just Oh, you know, when you've been in that situation, you're like, you're so funny. It's like awkward. I always

CORYNE:

love that too. The only time I've ever almost experienced that is it's always in New York where the comedy club is like, there's only 14 people in the whole place because like they can't fit anymore. Like you go to a comedy club anywhere else in the U. S. there's like a 60, 80 people. I know. New York is the best. It's intimate. And like when they suck, it's like somehow they turn on the audience. It's so awkward. Yeah. I know. It's awkward. It's never a good idea to sit that close to the stage either because if a comedian is bombing, they're coming for you.

FRANCENE:

I know, but it is. It's like, like me and Aaron, we used to go to New York like every Christmas before we had Luna and oh, special guest.

CORYNE:

Oh, he's right here. He's just making noise and I'm giving him eyes in the background. Special guest alert. So disrespectful of my mic check on my podcast.

FRANCENE:

Can't wait for next Friday.

CORYNE:

He just, he wants to be, he's going to be kind of an expert. I can see it. He's going to

FRANCENE:

sing. Oh my God, we can do karaoke. Tell him.

CORYNE:

I'll tell him.

FRANCENE:

He's ready. I know it.

CORYNE:

He just rolled his eyes at me.

FRANCENE:

I know he rolled his eyes with, I hope she has a mic. I have a mic. I've got two frozen mics.

CORYNE:

Is it sparkly? Is there a sparkly mic? Thank you.

FRANCENE:

It's a troll mic.

CORYNE:

It's a troll mic. I'll tell him. He's going to be super excited. He can barely contain it. So comedian is dead. Trolling the audience, gets up to go to the bathroom, and leaves his cell phone on the table, which you know, in today's society. Back

CORYNE (2):

in the

CORYNE:

day, before

CORYNE (2):

they had

CORYNE:

silence. I know, yeah, but in today's society, that'd be a green flag. No, no, no, no. His, I know. He left his phone. You turned your ringer off, right, back then?

FRANCENE:

I don't know. I mean, honestly, I can't remember last time I heard a phone ring in real life. Can you

CORYNE:

Mine still rings because I, oh no, I don't always, yeah, mine still ring, but it's not like a ring. It's like tones, you know what I mean? It's not like, I mean, that's the funny thing I saw, I saw, saw Dr. Dre phone, video. A while back that was like me in the, me in the early two thousands downloading an app so I could cut together my favorite song to create a ringtone. Fast forward to today, my phone has not been off silent in six years. Okay.

FRANCENE:

Do you not remember though? This website where you could Type in like, what do you call it? The keypad and it would come up with a song like you would type the your own ringtone. Do you remember that? No, I never

CORYNE:

did that.

FRANCENE:

Oh, was that a British thing?

CORYNE:

So, your iPhone still today will let you create your own text, your vibrate, your own vibration. So like, I have a Oh,

FRANCENE:

I didn't know that.

CORYNE:

I shouldn't say this out loud, but I've used that before. I'm just going to say I've used that before. I have like a, I have like a special, so I'm so bad saying it out loud. It's not. It's not like that. Okay. Like that. But I have a special vibration, like series for when Jason texts me. So if it's in my pocket, I know it's him. Yeah. Cause like, I thought you were going somewhere else with that. I know. That's why I was like, I got to tell them what I'm talking about. Cause I don't finish the phone could do that. It's just off. I'm somewhere constantly ringing. Wow. I'm like, Oh, no, I need to look at that. It's Jason. Like it's a, yeah, but you can go in there and create your own like, Oh,

FRANCENE:

I like

CORYNE:

vibrations still.

FRANCENE:

Well, watch me do that. I'm going to do it.

CORYNE:

Yeah. But yes, I used to create my own ringtones for sure.

FRANCENE:

It was so cool. I also used to have Oh my God, what was it? Dr. Dre song, but it was like, I've forgotten it. What is it? He's

CORYNE:

a motherfucking D. R. E. It's ringing. Oh, oh. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah.

FRANCENE:

That was my ringtone for ages. Of course it was. I was cool like that. I felt so cool. You

CORYNE:

are so fucking hood, Francie. I felt really good. I really did. When

FRANCENE:

my phone went off, I'm like, oh my god. Hi.

CORYNE:

Hey. I'm ghetto. Thank you. Hello.

FRANCENE:

Hi. Okay, so the phone starts ringing. Oh, my God. Awkward. Miranda goes into awkward mode. She's like, I can't pick up. And the comedian's like, Yo, Rhett. Pick up your phone. And she's like, It's my phone. It's my date's phone.

CORYNE:

Rough. This is rough. All the way around. He's so awkward. Like, the fact that he's calling her out, and then he calls her Red. Okay, fuck

CORYNE (2):

off. First of

CORYNE:

all. Second of all, like. How you're already embarrassed because a phone is ringing and it's yours and it's your fault like that's so like you feel so disrespectful of this, you know, person. That sweet guy is not in the

FRANCENE:

bathroom,

CORYNE:

leave him. Even though he sucks. Oh, and then she picks it up and she's like, She's like, Alan Miller's phone.

FRANCENE:

Yeah. Oh

CORYNE:

God. You got the names. Well done. And she's like,

FRANCENE:

wait, this is his date. Who is this? And then she's like, and then the comedian immediately swoops over. He picks it up and he's like, Hey, who is this? Oh, it's his wife.

CORYNE:

Oh my God. And like the whole audience is laughing and like, it's a great,

FRANCENE:

great for that comedian though. Who was bombing is now no longer bombing.

CORYNE:

He couldn't have planned that better if he had tried.

FRANCENE:

And then the date comes back in and she's like, it's your wife. I thought you were divorced. And he's like, we're separated. And she's like, no, no, no.

CORYNE:

Bye bitch.

FRANCENE:

We're separated.

CORYNE:

Yeah, yeah. Good for her. Good for her. So funny because it's something that like, I feel like is in the current dating scene, especially among, you know, younger people where it's like when a guy tells you he's, he's single, you have to qualify. Like, like are

FRANCENE:

you, what do you mean? Does that

CORYNE:

mean, are you still living with someone you were in a relationship with? Are you separated? Like does that mean that, like is there anybody else on the planet who currently. We're in a relationship with you, even though you, yeah, like, let's be super clear here. And like, I'm like, fuck was that that was happening 20 years ago. Okay. And nothing has changed. Nothing has changed.

FRANCENE:

I do appreciate though, at the end of the scene, as Miranda's walking out, the comedian's like, Hey, red, I'd fuck you. Yeah. He's hotter than the guy she was on a date with. Totally

CORYNE:

hotter. Not funny. Yeah, not funny. Pick a new career. But, totally hotter. But I do appreciate that for Miranda who, like, has gone through several episodes where she has felt left out. And, like, people didn't want her. So, I'm like, oh, good. Thank you, comedian. At least someone wanted her. Giving her that little boost. Like, she needs it. She needs it.

FRANCENE:

She's like, I don't need you. Meanwhile, it then cuts immediately to brunch with the girls. And, of course, Miranda's like, Fuck, if they're not married, they're gay or they're aliens. And then Charlotte, ever the romantic, she's like, but wait, maybe he did like you. Maybe he was separated.

CORYNE:

I love Charlotte. Charlotte, the ever optimist. And also like, how does Charlotte not end up in worse situationships? I

FRANCENE:

know.

CORYNE:

You're just, they're spoon feeding you bullshit and you're following it. She's like, wait,

FRANCENE:

and then this is when we come to that kind of urban relationship myth where Charlotte's like, well, like my friend, Amanda's friend, he met someone, he then got divorced. They then got married. They moved to Connecticut and they were super happy. And then they were basically talking about that. And I love the fact that they're, when they're speaking about the happily ever after Harry and Samantha are like, it's always in the rain when it happens. And they realize.

CORYNE:

I love how much they lean into it. And then I like, they're like, that's, it's not true.

FRANCENE:

And she's like, it is not true.

CORYNE:

Like it doesn't happen. Like, no, like let's be real.

FRANCENE:

No. And then Miranda's like, Seriously, this is not true. And then Charlotte, again, ever the romantic, is like, it is. I've seen a relationship change. Carrie and Bick.

CORYNE:

Yes, she does bring it full circle. I do appreciate that.

FRANCENE:

Which is true, when you've just seen the previous scene and then the last couple of episodes. I mean, it is different.

CORYNE:

It is different. He wasn't married when they started dating. So like,

FRANCENE:

Really? Well, was he single? I don't know. He was.

CORYNE:

Oh, yeah, he did. Remember?

FRANCENE:

Yeah. Isn't it funny how we immediately forgot? We're like, Big's great.

CORYNE:

Big is great. We love great. We love big. He was not. He was definitely not in a committed relationship with anyone else. He was dating. He was dating, you know, and I mean, yeah, I will say to that point, like, obviously things are different between the two of them now. And that for sure, like that happens many times in relationships where it's like, you're both single, you're dating, like it's, you know, whatever. And then like, yes, I feel like people can grow and like, be like, wait, I'm done with the bullshit. Like, this is. Or yeah, but like the whole, that other thing where it's like, dude is making up lame ass excuses for why he's in a committed relationship with someone else. And you like, if you're separated, why is your wife calling you on a Saturday night? You know, like that's, that's kind of, but anyway, I, we, we should not gaslight the urban relationship myth. Cause I feel like more often than not, it's not true.

FRANCENE:

That's true. When they were making fun of Carrie, Carrie's like, look, something's shifted. And immediately I love like Samantha's laugh and she's like, no, Miranda's like, I don't believe it. So then of course it cuts to Carrie in her apartment and she's specifically writing about the relationship mess. And she's like, do we all need a modern day myth to keep us going in order to believe?

CORYNE:

I do feel a little bit bad for Carrie in this part of her relationship with Big because all of her friends, except Charlotte, Are so cynical of it, which I understand it broke her when it ended the first time, but also it's like, she can't even enjoy the beauty of it right this moment. You know, it's like celebrate the happiness. It's the, it, it, that is what creates like a trauma bond almost is because it's like the only person you can share How good it is with, is your person. Yeah, that's true. Because your friends are so cynical about it, and would not, without cause, like, not without reason, are they so cynical, but like, I hate that for her. Then you look

FRANCENE:

back and you're like, again, was Big really that bad? It wasn't. But, you know what though? If you're only hearing it from one perspective. Right. Which clearly they had, they didn't know big, then sure, he's a burst. This is why

CORYNE:

a therapist says that you should not scush your relationship with your friends. I'm just saying. But

FRANCENE:

not to that extent. I do agree with that to an extent.

CORYNE:

It's tough because like Carrie was suffering when they broke up. Not to say that that wasn't equally if not more on her. Yeah. But she was like emotionally. You know, going through shit and like, of course you need your friends to get you through that. Of course, that's who you turn to and like, yeah, but this is the repercussions of that. You know,

FRANCENE:

whereas I still think I'd be Charlotte being like, you can make this work.

CORYNE:

Of course. Yeah, I know. I know. And I mean, like, that's, you know, obviously

FRANCENE:

carry to be. Did you call him? No, it was meant to be.

CORYNE:

Yeah. Yeah. But you initiate, got it. I can't believe you're not showing her like more constantly hanging out with Charlotte right now, because obviously that's the friend who's like giving her the advice she wants. A hundred percent. A hundred

FRANCENE:

percent. Charlotte's like, do this. So then it cuts to Samantha at Bar, and it's a very sophisticated bar. It looks like it's in, like, the financial district. I'm here for that. She's drinking a Cosmo. Oh, it's so iconic. Meanwhile, meanwhile, speaking of power, who's in the background?

CORYNE (2):

Over

FRANCENE:

her shoulder, Donald Trump is making, Huh? He is faking. A deal with ed

CORYNE:

older, another older, older than him at the time, which is obviously well to do man. And they're sitting in a corner, like having a conversation now, knowing what we know about Donald. I'm like, was it a deal or was it. Like that he was trying to set up some, you know, depraved sexual act against someone, or were you, were you committing financial crime? What was really going on over there, Ed? I need more details. Are you You know what, I'd love to. Are you a witness in a current indictment? I need to know, Ed.

FRANCENE:

You know when he walks out, though? He's just like, Hey Ed, you know where I'll be. I'll be at Trump Tower. Yes, we know where you're going to be. Where

CORYNE:

you know right the fuck where you'll be. Everybody knows. Everybody knows. Yeah, like that's, oh my God. Isn't that so

FRANCENE:

crazy? His little cameo in Sex and the City and Home Alone. To be fair,

CORYNE:

in 2000, he was very quintessentially New York and like, I get it. This was also

FRANCENE:

pre what was that show that he did?

CORYNE:

The Apprentice.

FRANCENE:

Yeah.

CORYNE:

Yeah, it was, you know, radical pre president, pre radical, even before that, like pre radical belief that was, you know, disruption in the community, in the nation as a whole.

FRANCENE:

But wasn't he also originally a Democrat? Oh yeah. For years. Yeah. I thought,

CORYNE:

let's be careful here. Cause this'll be another two hours of me on a political tangent.

FRANCENE:

Corinne walks out. One week to vote.

CORYNE:

Thankfully he walks out of the room and then old Ed, who's over there, probably scheming on some financial crimes with him comes over. It's two gorgeous girl boss, Samantha sitting at the bar.

FRANCENE:

Another

CORYNE:

Marla Moreau

FRANCENE:

moment. She looks stunning.

CORYNE:

I know. Yeah. And I love how they, they begin the scene with her there where it's like, after a hard work day, Samantha needed a smart cocktail. Like she, you know, she's just there because like, listen, I fucking worked my ass off today. I need a drink. You know what I mean? He's like, I like no, no.

FRANCENE:

I do love that. And like, she's in her own moment and he's like you distracted me so much with your beauty. I just agreed on like 150 million investment with Mr. Trump.

CORYNE:

And I love it. He's like, can I buy you a drink? And her response is, I already have one. Like, he's like,

FRANCENE:

can I buy you an Island? She's like, can you,

CORYNE:

can you, I love it. She wasn't impressed with the drink. And she was like, not trying to entertain this, you know, septuagenarians, but then he was like, can I buy you an Island? She was like, let's. Well, you have, I know,

FRANCENE:

immediately I'm like, I don't know, can you, like, tell me, talk to me? And then he immediately orders champagne.

FRANCENE (2):

Is my name on the deed by myself? I will take

FRANCENE:

it. I will take

CORYNE:

it. Thank you. Appreciate that. So Ed

FRANCENE:

has all the great. Lines, and it immediately cuts to Carrie walking with Samantha, they're just walking with their iced coffee, and Samantha's like, what is your age ceiling? And Carrie's like, 50? And Samantha's like, what if they're super rich? She's like, 50? And she's like, I'm seeing someone. And she's like, Are they 50? She's like,

CORYNE:

well, I mean, let's qualify this. So at this time, Carrie is 35 ish, right? So that's 15 years older than Carrie, essentially. Samantha's 45.

FRANCENE:

Oh, that's yeah, that's true. Yeah. So like you're looking at

CORYNE:

60 is the same age difference for her, but I do feel like this guy's 75.

FRANCENE:

Yes. Cause she's like, I think he's a young 72. I'm like, my God. So I would say, I was thinking about this in, in the episode when I was watching it. And I'm like, I feel like my ceiling would be 10 years older.

CORYNE:

Excuse me. I don't like, so depending, it depends on what age you are. If you're 20, 35 is nothing. If you're 35 is nothing? I don't think so. I mean, he's definitely, he's older, but like, if you're 30, Oh,

FRANCENE:

yes. Fair. Okay. Fair. I

CORYNE:

have to cough. Hold on. Sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know why I, we get on the pod and it's like, now I'm going to make you cough and your nose run. Okay. So I think like, it depends on the age you're at because, well, maybe not. I mean, I think when you're 30, 40, 42, 45, like doesn't sound that much older, but when you're 40, and now we're talking about 55, like that seems like a bigger jump.

FRANCENE:

Yeah, that's fair. I feel like anything older than your dad, though, way older

CORYNE:

than 10 years older than you. No, I

FRANCENE:

know. I know. That's what I mean. Like that is, that's way past my limit.

CORYNE:

I know I never dated older than me. By much like at all. Like I've dated younger than me. What, what's your limit?

FRANCENE:

Wait, what is your limit? Younger. Because I also thought about that too and I was like, I would prefer it to not be younger.

CORYNE:

Okay. So to, to click to qualify the, the story. So like, I have not been single since I was 32, but when I was'cause and I stopped dating. We'll say stupidly when I was about 30 or 31, but I think when I was 30, like I went on a few dates with somebody who was like 23. And that's a big difference when you're dating, like when you're the woman, cause men are so much less mature than us.

FRANCENE:

Yeah. 23. You were like that first. Episode we recapped that it was like, what was it called? Something of the 20 something.

CORYNE:

Yeah. Yeah. Land of the 20 something. Yeah, it did. And for sure, it definitely felt like that. And like, that's, you know, we only we only went on a few dates. Like it's because it's just like, you don't have a lot to talk about. Like, but I feel like

FRANCENE:

someone older, it would be

CORYNE:

Yeah, especially as a woman, I think women can date older easier than men can for the most part because women mature so much earlier and just in general in life, like we're just more mature people. But I think when you get to like, at this age, like, I can't imagine dating somebody who's 55 and that's only 11 years older than me.

FRANCENE:

Yeah, I look at like Leonardo DiCaprio and I'm like how he manages to stick to like below 25

CORYNE:

Because he's immature as fuck and that's a lot. Yeah, women like we can date older You know, like it's rare that you see a man with a woman who's significantly older than him. Immediately what comes to mind is the president of France, McClellan and his wife, who I think is like, God, I think she's like 15 years older than him. She's 15 years older than him. Let me Google it. She's significantly older. She was also his teacher. Yes. Not that they started dating when he was, You know, she was his teacher, but

FRANCENE:

he just always remembered her lessons.

CORYNE:

Yes, he did. I mean, he is so good looking and to be fair. No. Okay. She's 71.

CORYNE (2):

Oh, yes.

CORYNE:

And she's still gorgeous because she's French and he is 46. Wow. That's like 25 years older than him.

FRANCENE:

Yeah, that's legit.

CORYNE:

Significant. And she's pretty. And I mean, he's a looker too. But like, that's a big age difference. Like this is, can you see her? That's her.

FRANCENE:

Oh, she doesn't look 71.

CORYNE:

But, but she doesn't look 46.

FRANCENE:

No.

CORYNE:

Yeah, like she's older for sure. Yeah, I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, they, and how long have they been married? They've been married. Oh, they're married? Oh yeah, since oh seven.

FRANCENE:

Oh, since oh seven. Oh my God. Wait, so how that would

CORYNE:

be, that's almost young, 15 years ago. Three year. That's, that's 17 years ago. So she would've been 61, 53 ish. And he would've been 17 years ago. He would've been 29.

FRANCENE:

Oh, I dunno. I think sometimes people just have it in them, like, you know what I mean? Like they just prefer. That I don't, I mean, that's a whole

CORYNE:

conversation of like, you don't get to pick who you love.

FRANCENE:

I mean, that's true. I don't think I've ever like specifically had a preference, but if I did, I know my ceiling would not be 72.

CORYNE:

Agreed. Completely. Like, everything drops. This episode is about to show us why.

FRANCENE:

Yeah, that's true. So before we get to that point, we now cut to Carrie's and Big's apartment and they're cooking veal. I don't think I've ever had veal. It didn't make me want to want it, to be honest. I

CORYNE (3):

mean, if anyone tells you what veal is, I don't know how then you're like, yes. I want to eat that.

FRANCENE:

Yeah, it's weird that they have it. Also, did you notice in the background in his kitchen, the TV is so small that's on the wall. Yes, I did see that.

CORYNE:

Well, that's a sign of the times. Like we, yeah, to have a TV in the kitchen. I know,

FRANCENE:

I loved it. I never had a TV.

CORYNE:

Another room of your house was still a big deal back then.

FRANCENE:

He's baller. So she wants, oh yeah, so he's cooking veal. She's like, I want you to know my friends. And he's like, well, Charlotte's a brunette. He's like, I know them. The redhead. Yeah. This trouble, which I love. What else is there? Like, what do you need for me? And she's like, I want you to have dinner with us in denial and denial is that cool new restaurant. And he's like, okay.

CORYNE:

Yes, and I love, I will say that, like, that is really good communication, like, Yeah, she's amazing. He's like, what do you need from me? She tells him, and he's like, alright. Like, that is green fucking flags, babe, green flags.

FRANCENE:

And again, you can tell that she's like, Oh my god, I can't believe that's happening.

CORYNE (2):

Yeah.

FRANCENE:

So then, her phone rings. Of course, loud as fuck, because no one has silent back then. She picks up and Miranda is at a bar and she's like, Hey, where you at? Is everything okay? I'm sitting at this bar. And she's like, Oh, shoot. I forgot to tell you. I'm at Biggs. I'm having veal. And she's like, You fucking dropped me for veal? She said she

CORYNE:

dropped me for politically incorrect meat.

FRANCENE:

And then immediately Carrie's like, Oh, I can't remember what she says, but she's like, I love that. She says, she's like, I left a message on your machine. I'm like, Carrie,

CORYNE:

she just called you on your cell phone from her cell phone, but you left a message on her machine. I know. I

FRANCENE:

know. I did think that too. And then Miranda's like, Of course, going back to the myth or any relationship changing, she's like, of course, big says, come over. You immediately drop everything. You run over to him and she says, your relationship exists exactly the same. And she hangs up and then big's I don't know.

CORYNE:

Yeah. Good for her. Because that's a hundred percent. about Miranda and not like, she's such a hater.

FRANCENE:

I know she was so feeling it. And then, you know what I loved about the next scene is we finally get to meet Steve. Oh, I'd love this. And I, to be

CORYNE:

fair, like I had just gotten that was coming. Like when she was sitting there, I didn't realize it until the camera cut to him. Same. Same.

FRANCENE:

Oh my God.

CORYNE:

Oh, I love him so much. I love him from like the first moment.

FRANCENE:

Yeah, same. He is perfect, especially for her. And she's like, I'll have another glass of wine. And he's like, please, which to be fair, she's fucking rude. Good for him.

CORYNE (2):

Yeah. And she's

FRANCENE:

like You can't speak to me like that. And he's like, sure I can. I can't name Steve. And she's like, Oh, that's a cute, but I'm not in the mood. And then she smiles and I love it. I love her. And then she's like, what are you reading? What was it? Something by like

CORYNE:

something educated. It was like, yeah, something, something like above a bar keeps status. Yeah. I

FRANCENE:

don't know who that is. Yeah.

CORYNE:

She's like, oh, what are you, like a bartender who reads, you know, great fiction or great literature. And he's like,

FRANCENE:

no, no. And he just looks so cute. It's so

CORYNE:

perfect. Oh, he's so cute. And he's so, like, I love, that's the thing about Steve is from literally moment one, he just like disarmed her bullshit you know, like just straight out the gate, just like you're, bitch, I got you. Like that.

FRANCENE:

I do love it. Do you ever see that person on Instagram? Did you send this to me originally? Where she like just wears like what he wears and she just does impressions of him being like No!

FRANCENE (2):

I have seen that. But I don't think I've seen that. Hilarious.

FRANCENE:

He's like Miranda. And it's just so funny. Anyway.

FRANCENE (2):

They do like, it's like a rocky cross between him and Steve. Like Miranda.

FRANCENE:

And then of course they have the little flirty moment and then we're back at Miranda's and she gets two orgasms straight up. From

CORYNE:

yeah, from the bartender to work. And like he, I also like this scene when they're back there and like they're, he's like putting his clothes on and she's so cold. She's like, and like, just like the worst. I like totally and he's like, Hey, like, can I get your number? And she's like, why? I know she's sober. I can call you and she's like, it's fine. Like, you don't have to do that. It's fine. He's like, like, she's so dismissive. He's like, great sex. Bye. Bye. Like, so rude. So fucking rude. And it's like, I don't like that before, though. I know like you're, you're, you've been nice to all these, these guys who have like done terrible shit. And like, why are you so rude to the nice guy?

FRANCENE:

Literally. Honestly, we look, seriously though, you look back at all the people she's even dated from then to now. And you're like, really? Steve is the one that you're going to be a dick to?

CORYNE:

Yeah, he's like so fucking nice. And that's probably why she's being addicted to him. It's because he's so nice. But like, it's also too nice. But like, it's, it's so funny to watch those early moments with them knowing like what their relationships becomes because it's like, Wow. Like he had every reason to be like, you're a fucking bitch.

FRANCENE:

Yeah. But he, he calls it immediately.

CORYNE:

Yeah, for sure.

FRANCENE:

So Steve leaves after Miranda was super rude after even two orgasms clearly wasn't enough. God,

CORYNE:

I would want to see it again just for that.

FRANCENE:

And then we cut to Samantha. So she has had Three dinners, two lunches later with Ed, Samantha goes to Ed's townhouse. She opens, you know what I love about the scene? They're having such a beautiful meal where everything is like great. plates, everything else.

CORYNE:

People serving them. Oh, I

FRANCENE:

know. Like the housekeeper who is basically the same age as Ed. He's like, open your napkin. She opens her napkin and they're like earrings, a bracelet. And then he's like signals to open like the bit in the middle. She opens is a beautiful like diamond necklace. And she's Oh, and

CORYNE:

thousands of dollars worth of jewelry.

FRANCENE:

I mean,

CORYNE:

on your fifth date, I would, I would

FRANCENE:

take it. It's making me rethink my role around the 10

CORYNE:

years. That's how she got there. Francine, just so you know, that's how she got there. I mean, I'll take

FRANCENE:

that. She offered to buy

CORYNE:

an island like she,

FRANCENE:

yeah, I'm like, okay, I will take it. So then, I'll take it. Again.

CORYNE:

Wow, to say the least.

FRANCENE:

Yes, and now they're sitting on the sofa. And I love, I think one of the quotes was, Ed put on the moves, moves she had heard of but never seen.

CORYNE:

Yeah, yeah, they were straight from the 50s, guys. Straight up.

FRANCENE:

Truly, like, just, I don't know, shimmying, like, over. And doesn't he say something like, I used to play with these wild

CORYNE:

cats? Yeah, I used to groove to these cats.

FRANCENE:

Yeah. Something like that. Immediately, I would have the egg. I'd be like, Oh.

CORYNE:

Can I keep this necklace? It's like, it's all well and good until it's sexy time and then I immediately have the egg.

FRANCENE:

I know. That's hard.

CORYNE:

It

FRANCENE:

is. But then he's like, look, I'm going to put my cards on the table. I have. How are many years left?

CORYNE (2):

And she's like, Oh,

FRANCENE:

Ed. And he's like, but don't worry, I have plenty of Viagra. And she's like, Oh, Ed, that's not Viagra. She like grabs his crotch. I'm like,

CORYNE:

I have a handful of years left. I want someone to spend it with like, you know, I'm going to have all this, like, he's mega wealthy. Like, Let it be you. And so she's trying. Let it be you. The old college try. Okay, like she's trying. But then they, does it cut next to them in the bedroom?

FRANCENE:

Yes. So then they start making out and she's like, you know what? Like, they're all the same in the dark. She specifically asked for the lights to be out, which is surprising for Samantha, but I get it. I'm here for it.

CORYNE (2):

Yeah.

FRANCENE:

When they're kissing, honestly, looking at the scene, it doesn't seem passionate to me, but I mean, and then it's like,

CORYNE:

in the dark, like it all feels the same, it's like

FRANCENE:

touching her and it's, yeah,

CORYNE:

she's, she's getting into it,

FRANCENE:

semi, semi warm, it's not super

CORYNE:

hot, acceptable.

FRANCENE:

Yeah. It's okay. And then he's like, And then, getting the ick, he's like, I need to go to the little boy's room. No. Which,

CORYNE:

first of all, Immediately I dry up. Don't say that, please. Like, no.

FRANCENE:

Like,

CORYNE:

ick enabled.

FRANCENE:

But then she sees him go to the bathroom. And I'm like, oh my god, it's like granddad.

CORYNE:

I know, like, I, I cannot unsee that. Like, it's, that's, that right, like, that's the point in which, like, No, like, no, the thing is, the funny thing is, I was like, one day, like, we're going to be that age. Am I going to be corrected by it when we're that age? Not

FRANCENE:

like that. It won't be the same. It will not be the same. Botox and advances in medicine. We will no longer be doing Botox in our face, it'll be in our ass.

CORYNE:

Yeah. For sure.

FRANCENE:

You will never be that droopy.

CORYNE:

Oh my God. Oh no. I meant like the person you're with, like, I'm never going to get that droopy, but like, Oh, I see. You're with Aaron. You know, forever. And like, does Aaron's ass look like that in another 30 years,

FRANCENE (2):

Francie? I don't know. That's so bad. Do you even care? I don't know. Anymore? I don't. You're like, don't put that in my brain.

FRANCENE:

You must do though. Like at that point, when your kids are grown and gone, come on, what else are you doing? Once you retire, I'm ready. I'm going to be taking all the stuff. How are you spending your time? Let me tell you. We are working out.

FRANCENE (2):

Yeah, there's something.

FRANCENE:

So immediately she's like, that's gross, I have the ache, and she runs out and she says she has a reaction to the shelving, and I love that the housekeeper is just waiting by the door. She's like, I've seen this happen many times before.

CORYNE:

She's like, holding her coat. I also love that she made it out of there with the jewelry. Did you notice that? Yes, she did. Of course. Good on you, Samantha. Yeah. Good on you. That's

FRANCENE:

it. I would take it. I

CORYNE:

would take it. Absolutely. That was your payment for spending five dates with me. That's what I would think.

FRANCENE:

That's what I would think. I love that we don't equate that to a payment versus when Carrie had lost her

CORYNE:

phone. She didn't text him. Oh,

FRANCENE:

that's true. Yeah, that's true. I wish I got diamonds just after a date.

CORYNE:

I've never gotten diamonds on a fifth date. I'm going to need. I've never got presents. I

FRANCENE:

know. Even within five dates, I never got.

CORYNE:

No. Let me think about, no, I did have a guy buy me shoes once. Incredibly early. And he, he got my size, right? But fast forward another week, he was fucking married. The whole time and it's all transpired over the course of about three weeks and I had no idea Like you lying ass. No wonder you were back. Where are

FRANCENE (2):

those her shoes? Where those first? Do we wear

CORYNE:

the

FRANCENE:

same?

CORYNE:

Yes, I Also did not like we were just like we literally legit like we had just been on some dates. Nothing had happened. Thank God

FRANCENE:

Like oh my god Especially when you're investing. For real, like we, like what? Huh? Like this

CORYNE:

scandalous shit. Ah, my 20s, so much fun.

FRANCENE:

So then we get to Saturday afternoon, Miranda's at home reading the newspaper, of course. Of course she is, probably the New York Times. And then all of a sudden the doorbell rings and she's like, Oh, who is this? It's Steve. And she's like, what do you want? And he's like, do you want your neighbors to hear? She's like, Yeah, I honestly, this is like one of the most romantic things a guy has done in the whole of the season and a half that we've seen. He goes all the way to our apartment. Yes. He's come all the way to our apartment just to be like, I like you. Because she wouldn't give him her number. So like, he's like, talk about the effort. I know. Honestly, I love this. I love that he does this. And she's still like. Why? And he's like, I want to have dinner with you. And she's like, like, what's the point? And then she's like, well, I meet my friends tonight. And he's like, where? She's like, denial. And he's like, well, what time I'll come meet you. And she's like seven. And he's like, okay, I'll see you then. She's like, fine. He walks off.

CORYNE (2):

Yeah. And I

FRANCENE:

love how cool he is. He comes back and he holds open the door and he's like, what time are you really meeting? She's like, you played me nine.

FRANCENE (2):

Nine.

FRANCENE:

That's late though. Nine o'clock. That's legit. Yeah. And he's like, I'll meet you in a

CORYNE:

couple of weeks. Like, he's determined. I appreciate it. But I love

FRANCENE:

that. I love that he completely sees through. Like, breaking down those

CORYNE:

walls with her.

FRANCENE:

100%. Completely sees through the bullshit. Yes, I

CORYNE (2):

love it.

FRANCENE:

So then, meanwhile, we see Carrie strutting up into Big's apartment. Which, by the way, I don't love her outfit. You don't? No. I don't like it. I don't allow it. I love it when Big's

CORYNE:

wearing dinner out with friends. I love it. I

FRANCENE:

don't, yeah, I didn't like it for like the first outing for them together. But anyway she goes to Biggs apartment, opens the door, and of course, he's in his shirt, which by the way, is a Saturday. Why is he in a shirt? He's in like boxers

CORYNE:

and like a button

CORYNE (2):

down.

CORYNE:

Yeah. He's like Ivy. And if he's not in a suit, He's in like some, some part of a suit, apparently. I

FRANCENE:

know. I'm like, have we ever seen him in like normal stuff? He's like, it's been so busy, you know, I've been running around all day. And he's like, you know, I was kind of thinking like, I'm not going to go tonight. And they're your friends. They only want to see you, which. Fair. But this is when a guy told me No, No, I mean is like, but like, I understand how guys would think this way, whereas if they truly knew how much we built this stuff up, and we're like, no, no, no, we've committed. I am bringing you to meet my friends. This is a big freaking deal.

CORYNE (2):

Yeah. But she's not saying

FRANCENE:

anything. She's like, okay, if that was me, I'd be like, no, I really want you to come. And I think he would have. Do you not?

CORYNE:

I, no, I think he would've too. I the, it's also so deflating when like, you've gotten like he like green lit this the whole way. Oh yeah. And then he is like, caveated and like, here it is. And he just like blows it off like it's no big deal. It's very hard. There's like two ways to react to that. One is to blow your fucking top and be livid. Yeah. Which is

CORYNE (2):

typically

CORYNE:

my go-to, I,

CORYNE (2):

I probably the second one

CORYNE:

is to do what she did. Which like if you, if you notice in the scene, like she does not look back up from the moment she's like,

FRANCENE:

okay, bye.

CORYNE:

Yeah. And she just leaves. And like what person obviously gets it. Like how deflated and upset she is and she just leaves and like I feel so bad for her because like also she's so triggered because of the way their relationship was. But he's just so

FRANCENE:

good that I'm also surprised and I know why they've done it. I understand it's an episode whatever but it's the way they've built this up with him being like you're my girlfriend of course I'm gonna come by all of a sudden he's like

CORYNE:

old big is back

FRANCENE:

All big is back. You're right. This is the types of behavior that you're like, yeah, you're

CORYNE:

a dick. Yeah, I get it. And that sucks. And like, that hurts for sure. So she like heads to denial by herself, which appropriately named restaurant for this episode. I think that's hilarious.

FRANCENE:

I know they really did think of everything.

CORYNE:

They really know

FRANCENE:

they're in denial. And she's like, Oh, I don't know if big's gonna make a he's coming from work, which again, if I was all of her friends, I'd be like, it's a fucking Saturday. What is he doing at work? Fine. I mean, stops on a Saturday and Sunday. He

FRANCENE (2):

is making billion dollar deals. Okay. Honestly, he probably knew Ed. He totally knows Ed. What are you talking about?

CORYNE:

Like there's this scene, there's this scene with him and Trump in one of the first episodes. Remember? Yes, isn't he there? He says it. He says it or he's in an episode with him in one of the first few episodes where he's like in that circle. Like he knows

FRANCENE:

him.

CORYNE:

Yes. Anyway, he totally knows Ed, whatever. So

FRANCENE:

Donald Trump's like the biggest fan of this.

CORYNE:

She goes to denial and she's fully like, I don't know if I would have lied, like, I don't know. I

FRANCENE:

don't know either. I, I feel knowing me, I probably would have immediately said,

CORYNE:

This motherfucker right here.

FRANCENE:

I don't know, I don't know, I think I would've probably been like, knowing the circumstances and knowing how your friends have reacted, I probably would've been like, hey, something's come up at work, super sucks, he's not gonna be able to make it.

CORYNE (2):

Yeah.

FRANCENE:

Versus, I don't think I would've told the truth. I understand why she

CORYNE (2):

doesn't.

FRANCENE:

Yeah.

CORYNE:

Yeah. Steve's there.

FRANCENE:

So my God, Steve is there. He brings over all the Cosmopolitan's and Miranda could not be any more fucking rude when she says something like, wait, what did they say?

CORYNE:

Something about like, he brings them over and she's like, thanks. And then he like, I don't know, he steps away or something. You want to get a

FRANCENE:

drink, date a bartender. And she's. Well, it was something like

CORYNE:

that. And she's like, Well, you wanted it, like, Oh, he said, they're like, thank you so much. And he's like, you know, if you want a good drink, you just ask a bartender. And she's like, or if you want a good play, like just rude. Embarrassing. Poor guy.

FRANCENE:

Yeah. It was bad. And even, you know, it's bad when Samantha doesn't laugh. Yes. Which, by the way, in this scene is when Samantha looks like Marlon Monroe again.

CORYNE:

Yes, she definitely does. She looks

FRANCENE:

amazing. Yeah. So then Steve is like, hey, can I talk to you for a second? She's like, the, like, gods are punishing me for casual sex. Yes. Everyone's like, oh, it's a little bit awkward.

CORYNE:

But I think doesn't he walk away at one point and Charlotte's like, why are you being so rude to him? Or like somebody says something to him. I think she does.

FRANCENE:

And then she's like, oh, like what? And she's like, I don't want to talk about it.

CORYNE:

Yeah. And he's like, can I talk to you? And he felt, and I appreciate that too, from him. Cause it's a very, like, that takes a lot of self respect. I know you're being a dick.

FRANCENE:

Yeah. He's like, I know it's not me. Yeah. Something else is going on. He's like, why do you feel this mad? And why do you think that, you know, guys are full of shit, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, and the other night wasn't special. I'm like, Steve, you have my heart. We can get married tomorrow. I know. Honestly, Steve is like everything all of those girls have been looking for.

FRANCENE (2):

I know. And that's the thing with Miranda. She's like, I

FRANCENE:

don't care.

CORYNE:

Whatever. He was like that most of all of the seasons.

FRANCENE:

Yeah.

CORYNE:

Until his bullshit in the movie. Yeah.

FRANCENE:

Very out of character. I know. Well, and I also took a liking to him

CORYNE:

because of what, again, Miranda was doing. But that, I think that like, it's so crazy. Like, he's just so, he's so good to her from day one.

FRANCENE:

So good.

CORYNE:

Yeah.

FRANCENE:

So she's like, yeah, I think you are full of shit. And he's like, okay. And then he comes back over and he leaves money. I know. And he's

CORYNE:

like, it was nice to meet you guys. Like still a gracious person. Like and then, so he leaves, they're sitting there together. Carries down trodden and like, doesn't have the heart to break Charlotte's heart. I know. And

CORYNE (2):

Miranda's like,

CORYNE:

Miranda's like, he's not coming. Just say it. He's not coming. And Miranda, she's about to say it. And then Charlotte's like, there

CORYNE (2):

he is.

CORYNE:

And I cannot tell you like, hi, the heart swell, even I got, and I knew it was coming. Like, I was just like,

FRANCENE:

I know, same. I'm like, I'm so glad. Bye. Bye. Did you notice the music? It was like spa music though. It

CORYNE:

was,

FRANCENE:

it was weird for the

CORYNE:

copyright to I

FRANCENE:

think so. So then Miranda's like, well, shit is big is here. Then maybe I should believe that guys are better than this. So immediately she runs off and it's raining I love that. It's raining and she's like Steve and he's like Miranda And she's like, okay, I don't think you're full of shit we can try yeah.

CORYNE:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and they kiss and it's like Oh, that's how Marie started something

FRANCENE:

beautiful. And you know, Steve's last name is Brady. That's right. I didn't know that. Steve Brady. Cause that's what they named their baby. I know. That's why I was like, then it's Brady Brady?

CORYNE:

No, because it's Brady Hobbs because they weren't together when she had him.

FRANCENE:

Of course, she,

CORYNE:

yeah, of course, Miranda, way to fuck it up,

FRANCENE:

Miranda. So then back at the table, this is also one of my favorite scenes where big and Carrie are finally like together, they're having their moment with their friends. And he's like, Tell me about that old guy with him, Samantha and Samantha's like, Oh my God, I can't believe that you could tell there's a little bit of shock cracking up. And I love that. I love it when couples have their

CORYNE:

own little, yes, he did. Like he, he, he swooped in. He was so comfortable. I loved it. Yeah. It was perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Like again, no longer

FRANCENE:

a myth. Perfect. Perfect.

CORYNE:

Yeah, all green flags. All

FRANCENE:

green. He does not mean Moment big. Way to save the man. He is the myth. He does not know Viagra needed. Ooh, Viagra.

CORYNE:

It's awesome.

FRANCENE:

It's a good episode.

CORYNE:

It was a good episode. Especially for Big and Carrie.

FRANCENE:

Yes, I was here for this. No crazy Carrie.

CORYNE:

She's held it at bay for a while now. I feel like there's like, they're just, they're in a good couple groove, you know?

FRANCENE:

Well, look out for episode nine, old dogs, new dicks.

CORYNE:

I wish I could have been a part of the creative team coming up with these titles. They're hilarious. Same. I would

FRANCENE:

love to have like broken it down.

CORYNE:

Definitely. And I'm so glad Steve is in the mix now that adds a whole nother layer.

FRANCENE:

I know I'm excited. So we will be recording that live

CORYNE:

in person with potential significant other features. We'll see if we can talk them into it. Stay tuned.

FRANCENE:

I'll get Aaron to watch it.

CORYNE:

Yes. Jason won't watch it, but he'll just give Random commentary, it'll be great.

FRANCENE:

I'm here for the random commentary. I just want to be like, hey, what do you think? Tell me. Yeah, you think,

CORYNE:

I don't know what you're talking about, but it's stupid.

FRANCENE:

Honestly, they'll just be in their own thing, just being like, this is fucking dumb.

CORYNE:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. This is the best part.

FRANCENE:

Excuse the next podcast.

CORYNE:

For sure. Hilarious.