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SEASON FINALE OF SEASON 2

We can't believe we are ending season 2... but don't worry we will be back, and actually before season 3 we are going to have some quiz fun.. so watch this space! 

Three of the girls deal with loved ones from their past. For Carrie it's trying to become just good friends again with Mr. Big, who now is with Natasha and even tells her they are already engaged. For Charlotte it means the pony Taddy which threw her off as a child, or a substitute horse.

coryne:

When your computer gets to that point where you're like, Are we gonna have to see other people? Yeah, it's getting there. How's it going? It's good. It's I'm actually having a not insane week, which is welcome. Good. Yeah, it's been busy, but this week has been pretty low key today. I've gotten, shit accomplished and my phone hasn't been ringing off the hook and I like it. I'm here for it. Amazing. Do you feel like

francene:

You're in your new era? I,

coryne:

Some days I do. I'm like, why am I doing I'm like, how am I still so busy? But it's, yeah, it's getting there for sure. I think it's building your empire. Yes, for sure. Doing that. Absolutely. One day at a time.

francene:

How was your birthday? I love the picture.

coryne:

It was super fun. It was so many people showed up and everyone's so great. And then this is the first year ever that crossing has been. at my birthday celebration with me. Yeah. And William and Derek showed up early and were hanging out and like maybe 15 minutes into being there, William was like, I should go get my karaoke machine. He got this like really awesome, like high quality karaoke machine that's like really compact. I don't remember if it was for Christmas or for that, but Derek has mentioned it and I was like, Oh, you don't have to do that. And he's but he's we're going to be here for, hours. He's let me. He's it's 15 minutes away. Let me go get it. So he goes and gets it. Oh my God. Best guy

francene:

ever.

coryne:

He sets it up and makes the move of handing a microphone to cross in and. Done. Oh my God. Yeah. Evening done. Emcee, hype girl. Oh, I love that. Making entertainment for the rest of the night was hilarious. And Brandon people are like doing karaoke. At one point she decides that it's time to give speeches to mom and everyone tell her how much they love her. And she farts. It's the sweetest thing ever. And then everybody gives like just the sweetest freaking things. Like I just felt so loved. And then I felt the need to get up and say thank you to everyone. Bobbed through it. And it's That is so nice. And then we and then after that, I sang gin and juice by Snoop Dogg. So it just brought it right back to center and you will appreciate that. I had a very fabulous pink dress on, and then I did a full costume change. I,

francene:

okay. I was going to ask you, cause I saw pictures and I was like, did she do a change, which I love even more. And

coryne:

it's really great. Like that dress was so cool, but it was like a very 70s inspired one shoulder kind of puffy sleeve long split was literally like to your hip bone. Like it was like high, which I'm here for it, kiss down in that you can't sit in that dress. And so I'm not joking. The last people who I knew were coming got there and then I was like, okay, change your clothes. Let's go put on a romper. Let's do this. And then I changed into this equally as fabulous, like glittered, like onesie pantsuit. But the best part about that pantsuit, of course, I got it from our. Run the Runway, I hope. Do what? Was it Run the

francene:

Runway?

coryne:

It's from our, we're manifesting them as our sponsor, but Run the Runway. And the label is Black Halo, but the name of the jumpsuit is the Corinne jumpsuit.

francene:

No, it's not. It is. Is that correct? Did you know that when you got it?

coryne:

Yes. Yeah, of course. I've had it in my favorites list for a year. And I was like, where am I going to wear this? When am I going to wear this? And I finally was like my birthday. That's where it is. That's so meant to be. I know. And my cousin, she's you have to keep it. And I was like, it's pricey. And she's I don't care. Keep it. And I was like, good point. It's a good point. You kept it, right? I have, I still have it. I haven't returned it yet. I've,

coryne (3):

I've put it off in the list. You know what

francene:

though? This is fun. Like sometimes they then do that crazy discount, if you keep it long enough and you know when it goes to yes. Oh my God. I did that with a dress and I was like, yeah,

coryne:

The crazy thing is there's this one dress. It was a Trina Turk dress that I got three times and it was a, it was 450 and I, it was the. It was the best dress I've ever put on my body in my life. It was very, it was casual. It was like summer style. It was the best dress. And the way that I know it's the best thing I've ever worn is the three times I had it. Literally every single person I saw, it was like that dress. And I didn't want to keep it because it was years ago. And it was more than I was comfortable. And I have chased the dragon on that dress to this day. Like to this day, I've tried and tried. I almost found it one time. I can't find it. I can't find it. And it's

francene:

a lesson to everyone listening by it.

coryne:

I also have this experience with this bag in Paris. The first time I went to Paris, I was 25 years old. No, I was 27 years old and I was with my college roommate. My soul sister and we were in the shopping district in Paris and there was like this little section and it was like makers like artisans. And there was a bag shop and the dude was like making these bags out of Italian leather. And there was this, I can't, the blue, it was like a cerulean blue leather. Cross body. It would have been like a laptop bag almost. And it was like, and I was so broke. Like I was so young and so broke. It was like 230 euros and I could not afford it then. I couldn't afford to be in Europe, but somehow I was in Europe and I didn't buy it. And I swear to you, that's been 20 years ago and I'm still talking about it. Like I, I have looked for that. I have looked for that color again. I'll never find it. I'll never find it. Isn't it funny,

francene:

like, when Buy the bag.

coryne:

Buy the bag.

francene:

It's funny how things continue to be, like, in your mind.

coryne:

Absolutely. I've chased the dragon on that bag and that dress. This whole time.

francene:

Yeah, I have more regrets on things I've bought than like in life.

coryne:

I have definitely lived a life subscribed to the school of thought of you only regret the things you don't do. And I still. Regret the things I didn't buy and literally I didn't buy it because if I had, I could not have eaten for the rest of the trip. Functioned, yeah. And I'm like, I'd still Just try not to be in debt, guys. Whatever. I still think about that bag. I still think about it. Oh my God, one,

francene:

one

coryne:

of these things. Last year, ask me what I was looking for in every shopping bag I went to. That bag. Yeah, or that color of

francene:

bag or oh, it's good. You need to send me, one of my pastimes, send me the dress that you mentioned. Cause one of the things I do love to do is I will stock things and find things. But then my issue is like when I do find out, I'm like, gotta buy it. Regardless of price. Yeah, no, I know.

coryne:

I mean that dress, the crazy thing is I think when it was, cause I think it was a 450 or 80 dress originally from Trader Jerk. Yeah. And then if I go back through my order history, I can find it. Cause that's one of the other great things about Renth runway, all your order history. But it was I think it was on, I think it was like with your discount, I could have gotten it for 3. 25.

francene:

It's still a lot though. I don't know. And there's a difference with for me, I'm always like, if it's 150 last, I'm like, ah, I've got it. And I think more than that, I'm like, I really need to like

coryne:

be conscious of my snack. Cause I don't just want to

francene:

buy one thing.

coryne:

I know I was definitely not in a place where I was like, that was feasible at the time and looking back, like I should have just fucking made it work. I even bought I, cause they sold it at Neiman's. Oh yeah. One that was almost like it, it was very close to it. And I yeah, it doesn't even show up in my closet anymore because it's like they don't have, they like, oh, so they

francene:

don't even hold it anymore.

coryne:

Doesn't have it anymore because either people bought'em all. I always wonder about that. Did they buy'em all or did they like. I don't know, did they, all items including unavailable. Yeah,

francene:

What do they do with it?

coryne:

Yeah, or did they have to take it out of the rotation because it just eventually it wears out.

francene:

I don't know, there's like a brand, but around the runway, and I probably won't be able to find it like quick enough. But it's called petite blah blah blah blah blah. There's four names to it, and it's like a French brand, but it's like scuba material. Oh. Oh my God. When I tell you, like I rented a couple of their dresses, it's exquisite. Like the way it just stuck to my skin, but it didn't like, it didn't look bad. It was obviously very quality and like thick but they were like 900 to like. 1200 and they're the ones that I continue to go back on search, look at Poshmark, look at different, yeah. Try to find them

coryne (2):

again.

francene:

Yeah. And like even when I do, it's like the cheapest I've found is like six 50. I am like, that's a lot. That's tough for sure. Yeah.

coryne:

Yeah. That's a, that's a purchase, yeah. Like 50 on one and it's like a

francene:

plain dress. I'm like, once you've worn it a couple of times, I dunno. That's, I know. That's the drive I've run the

coryne:

runway. Absolutely. And that's the thing is that's what I try to remind myself of is it's, it is meant to be something that like is a statement piece. You wear it once and then like you let her go, but yeah, you let her go, which is very.

francene:

Very apt for this episode, which, by the way, let me tell you, so I watched it. Remember I said after, immediately after the last one, it's the first time I've done that. I then watched it again. And don't ask me why, because I felt I don't know, I just needed to review it again. I then watched it again today.

coryne:

I had to. Today I just now, before you jumped on the call, I was like, let me just throw this on because it's been a week since I watched it. And I just want to like, have it fresh in my mind, but like this episode, without a doubt. One of the most painful episodes to watch.

francene:

Yeah, it was hard, my other observation, and we've said this maybe since like mid season two is I feel like this is sex and say like the way they are.

francene (2):

Yeah.

francene:

Like The Cosmopolitan, the fashion the jokes, like, all of them without the interviews, I'm like, this is the iconic series. And I honestly, yeah, I can't remember season three. I know we will the minute we get into it, but I'm like, from now on, this is the truly iconic stage of Sex and City, I feel.

coryne:

Season three has to be where she meets Aiden, right?

francene:

I think so.

coryne:

It's gotta be. Yeah. Because I can think about the trajectory. I can think about the trajectory of her and Big's relationship and how that sits in it. So it's gotta, she's gotta meet Aiden. Because there's only six seasons.

francene:

Yeah, and it must be, quickly because I know obviously more happens.

coryne (3):

Yeah, I know where this Relationship thing is going so he's got to be coming up at the rotation The next one

francene:

is the politician Do what'd you say? The first episode is the politician. Oh, I love that. It's going to be great. See, that's what I mean. This is like the iconic ness.

coryne:

Oh, and that makes me think about so many things that happened this season. Where they, yeah, they're in Long Island. Yeah. There's going to be great things in season three. And I feel like season three is probably if we liked the fashion of halfway through season two. It's coming. Oh, it's gonna kill it.

francene:

This is it. I'm here for this.

coryne:

This is the moment.

francene:

This is the moment. It's sad season two is over.

coryne:

Yeah, and I feel like it's a sense of an accomplishment. We've made it through two seasons. I know.

francene:

And listeners, we're adding a quiz. We're gonna do, before we kick off season three, we're gonna do a quiz about season One and two, to see how well we remember.

coryne (2):

I

francene:

don't know. We will see. No pressure. No pressure, but we're now experts. Okay. So season two, episode 18. X in the city. So season finale for season two sad and remember we just had season we just had episode 17 where at the end she bumped and she bumps into big and Natasha

coryne:

in the Hamptons at a beach party and that's The first time she had seen Big, post breakup.

francene (2):

Ugh.

coryne:

I know. Still excruciating.

francene:

Hence why I watched it three times. I'm like, ugh, I just can't, I can't be done. I just need to feel the pain one more time. I know. It was, yeah, it was painful. Yes, it is. Okay, so the episode starts off, Carrie and Miranda are buying flowers they're just in like the sidewalk of New York and All of a sudden Miranda looks up and she sees Steve and she just out of nowhere, grabs Carrie, causes this commotion. Carrie's did you see her actual coins? They just flying. The flowers went flying and they run.

coryne:

Bolt off. Like they have just seen the Grim Reaper, like running out of there. Oh my gosh, so dramatic, so very dramatic, especially for Miranda oh wow, sis, calm down, but they bounce out of there, and then cut to the next scene, they're having dessert together with the girls, and they're discussing what has just transpired between Miranda and like, why she reacted that way.

francene:

And she's I can't be friends with someone who's been inside me.

coryne:

And Samantha intrusivated the fashion is I'm, I can't be with friends with a man at all. No man at all. She's men are for fucking women are for friendship. And I listen, girl, I respect it. I get it. Samantha. I hear you.

francene:

What was, do you remember what Charlotte says? I can't remember if I remember the girls made comments about it.

coryne:

Okay. I can't remember what, I remember the thing that I noticed about this moment of all four of them, I noticed how very nineties their eyebrows were. They're all four of them. Very, I love it. And I was thinking, I was like, God, I would love to do a then and now comparison on there. Not even then and now, and then, and the first movie comparison of their eyebrows. Charlotte definitely had opinions, and I can't remember what they are right

francene:

now. I can't remember either. I have a lot of comments about Charlotte's storyline, this episode, that it was not needed, wasted. They could have just caught her out. They've done it before, they don't, they didn't need her in this episode.

coryne:

I love horses, so I appreciate,

francene:

I

coryne:

appreciate the kind of very this is what it's like in the big city to like, still do outdoorsy things. I like that, but it was I will say I probably liked it because I, when the first time I ever saw it, it was probably like a. It was an awesome way to see how people living in New York still had those kind of opportunities,

francene:

that, that's true. I, yeah, because I don't think it initially comes to mind.

francene (2):

Yeah.

francene:

But going back to, so when they're all sitting having dessert one of the things Carrie says is she laughs and she's it's all just so childish.

francene (2):

Yeah.

francene:

She's like we hold on to like dresses, but we just throw away our relationships. And if you love someone and break up, where does the love go? Okay. One of

coryne:

the most epic lines, yeah, no, that, that line from Carrie that's one that has stuck with me forever. If you love someone and the relationship ends, where does the love go? Like that one is stuck with me forever. And then that begs the question, Francine, have you been friends with any of your exes?

francene:

No, I haven't, but I wish them well I have no I genuinely have no ill intent. I send you off, I send you off, and there was one, actually, when I was like younger, and we were engaged, and really young. I was, like, what, 19, 20, and he was, like, the worst person. He had issues with drink, everything else. He cheated, all this stuff. He was just not a good person. But years later, and maybe four years ago, five years ago, he reached out to me and was like, Hey, I've gone through the program, like he stopped drinking, like all this stuff. And I, again, this is such a long time period. And he was like, I'm like, sorry, I shouldn't act the way I did. And I was like, thank God. I'm pretty sure I did like silly stuff too. But it was nice to have I was like, for me, there was no hate and yeah, and I was like, it's so many years that I literally would wish nothing but like goodness. But yeah, I wouldn't say I was friends with the rest.

coryne:

Y'all haven't had dinner since then or no,

francene:

plus Aaron would kill them. I'm not a big fan. What about you?

coryne:

No, not a Charlotte is going to say this in another season. It's going to come. This is, I know I got it from sex in the city, but the consolation prize of a relationship ending is not. My friendship and I say that I am friendly with my ex husband and I genuinely care about him and like I would like to be better friends with him than we are like, I feel very comfortable with that, but that's a very special thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. We were, cause we were best friends in high school and we know how to just be friends. And I have known him since I was 17 years old. And we share a child, like there's a love there for me with him that will never, ever go away. And like I, so he is the one exception to that, I would say, but I am not friends with anyone else that I ever was. that I ever dated or ever had a like, relationship with. Do

francene:

you think it changes when, like, when you have kids? I was just thinking, I'm like, it should, yeah. That's what I mean. Whereas yeah, like before, like there's literally no reason to see

coryne:

Yeah.

francene:

Typically like those people again.

coryne:

Like my, so my mom is pretty notorious for staying friends with her exes, like whether they like it or not. I love.

francene:

Oh my God. I love your mom.

coryne:

I know. And so that, I definitely have seen an example of it, but yeah, I just, I like, I wish you nothing but good things and not to be in my life though. Live long and prosper. I don't need to see you again. Like I subscribed to that school of thought with the exception of Michael. And I, I have an, I have another ex husband from when I was very young and we did not have children together. He also did me really wrong, like really bad, like cheated on me and left me with all the debt and was like a complete fuck. And yeah, I've never, like I haven't seen him in 25 years and it does not bother me. Like I have not thought about it at all until right this moment. It's, I don't know, definitely kids should change things. Ideally you don't break up, in many cases you do. And I think that like it, you should have enough respect for each other as. The parent of your child to find some common ground. I don't think a lot of people have that level of maturity. Unfortunately, like I've seen it be really bad between people. Like I've been up close and personal to that, but I think that it should. I think that like that common ground should be enough. That you can, you don't have to be best friends, but you should be able to be amicable and more than that. Like you should care about that other person's wellbeing. You know what I mean?

francene:

Yeah,

coryne:

they're not it affects your child.

francene:

Yes.

coryne:

I

francene:

agree. Yeah. And

coryne:

like,

francene:

but, but do you feel so taking obviously I think it is different. Like when you share. A child or children with someone, but if you think about like your exes and you saw them the way Miranda saw Steve, what would your reaction be? Because I wouldn't be as dramatic as, tell me, when and

coryne:

where. There was a guy that I dated, this is so funny, okay, so I dated a stripper for a while and of course I did. And

francene (2):

it

coryne:

was very, it was not serious. You know what I mean? Was it like magic Mike? A hundred percent. But I I I, so like it was, we were like, it wasn't serious, but like we, it went on for a long period of time. It was like over a year. Like we, and I said, I use the term dated loosely, but. Anyway, so then I started dating Michael and fast forward, like I was pregnant when this happened, which is even better. So we were married and I was pregnant. And one day, and I told, me, I'm an open fucking book. So Michael knew that I dated this guy, whatever. He never seen him, didn't know his name, but he knew the story. Okay. So one day we're walking into target with Michael's three kiddos who at the time would have been like 12, nine and six or no, she would have been. And I was pregnant. I was probably like six months pregnant and I was obviously pregnant and we were walking into target and he walks right past us in the parking lot. Past us. And I, of course I saw him, he saw me, I didn't say shit. I did not acknowledge his existence. Okay. Like nothing. And the best part though, the craziest fucking part is we get, we Into, we got into target, I think, or back in the car. I can't remember. And Michael, without me saying shit about it, it was like,

coryne (2):

was that stripper you dated? No way. I was like, how the fuck did you know? And he's I just had a feeling. I just had to say

francene:

Oh my God. What was Michael's horoscope? He's a

coryne:

Libra. No. He's a Virgo. Oh, he's a Virgo, but he's, he totally knew it. He totally I must've twitched in my eye. I don't know. Yeah. But other than that, I've been really lucky to not, I did one other time see a guy that I had just had sex with. Like it was, we did, I won't even qualify that as dating, but I was with Michael. At a brewery and he was sitting at the bar and he obviously saw me and knew who I was and I knew he, but we like did not acknowledge each other's existence. That's

francene:

But that's good. You didn't run off in both situations.

coryne:

Neither. No, I fucking say something, bitch. Say something.

francene:

I don't think I've bumped into any of my exes. I try and I'm going to keep them in places that I will. It's smart.

coryne:

It's smart. I think about the ones that I had like really dramatic breakups with the ones who like, I, I used to, before I healed, I used to love to end a relationship. If I knew a relationship was ending, I was notorious for. Imploding it on the way out the door. Yeah. Like you were like, we're never come back to it. It was like my, my, it was like the thank you gift. I left on the way out the door, do the thing that they'll never call you again on the way out the door. You don't have to worry about that. You don't have to be like, I have to block his number. Don't worry, girl. He ain't never calling me again. I've wondered about running into those guys that I've, and I've never have. The universe has done me a favor. That is

francene:

amazing.

coryne (3):

It is. It's very thoughtful of the universe. One of my exes, actually, this is funny, this, I probably shouldn't say this on a pod, but I don't think we have that big of a following yet.

coryne:

So I did it when I was in commercial landscaping, in my previous career, I I met this guy. Who I met him in a conference out of state. It was like the national conference, but he worked for a landscaping company that I would say like our owners knew each other, the owners of the companies.

francene (2):

And

coryne:

he lived in Austin and we ended up dating for a year. We were in love. Like we, it was a pretty significant relationship. He was a hot fucking mess and he borrowed money from me

francene (2):

and then

coryne:

we broke up and he still owes me the money. And I, so fast forward, 15 years when I stopped my landscaping career, I started my digital marketing business and then fast forward, like five years into that, I got my old landscaping company. On board as a client. I do all their digital marketing. They started to buy up other landscaping companies across the Southeast United States. They bought a company in Austin and I had no idea, but one day I was doing some work for them on their website, updating some stuff. And they have a team page of all their team members. Guess who works for them? Stop right now. Works for them. And I was like, you. You owe me money. I didn't actually do that, but I really wanted to be like, you have a good job and you're in your forties. Send me my money with interest, by the way, like you anyway. So yeah, there's that guy.

francene:

That is amazing.

coryne (3):

Yeah, that's a good one.

francene:

I like getting Corinne's stories. Every

coryne:

episode

francene:

we get a

coryne:

little bit deeper. Last three of champagne tonight,

francene:

what other topics can we bring up?

coryne:

Oh my god, that's amazing. From their dinner to Oh, Carrie says the thing at the dessert thing where she's where does the love go? And she says, I'm not judging you, she says, I haven't figured out a way to be friends with Big yet. And Samantha, doesn't Samantha make the comment? She's what do you mean where does the love go? It goes to their next girlfriend. Yeah,

francene:

and she was like, no. No, our love was no way.

coryne:

Yeah, there's no way to love that. I have with bigs the same as he has for Natasha and all three of her friends immediately go, Oh, Natasha, when did you start? Yeah. Yeah. Figure with no soul.

francene:

Which I love. And then it cuts to carry in her apartment right in the column. And she's talking about the x factor. And then she says, Can you transform? Into a friendship, but I also think I don't know, I might be wrong in what I'm about to say, but I feel when you're still like, she's not over big and I think when you're at that stage. And you're like, I still think, she's the love was different, he'll never, she still thinks they're un, not serious and I think the component of her remaining in Big's life allows her to be a possibility, whereas I feel like I can't relate to that, because anytime I've broken up with someone, it's, there's a reason, and I don't want to be with that person.

coryne:

And that's the thing, is I definitely feel like when they're, Is a breakup. It's I don't know, it's so multifaceted because either there is a reason that I wish that you would cease to exist or it's like you're broken up with, and you're not over it, like by any stretch of the imagination, like you still have feelings for that person. And so then it's I can't imagine being around someone that like, Oh my God I know I couldn't do that. I think about I don't know, there's many people I can think about in my past that I don't, I never want to see your fucking face again. There's a level of hurt or anger over it. And then there's other people that like, I didn't want it to end. So I also never want to see your face again because I want it. I don't want to not be with you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or seeing.

francene:

them with someone.

coryne:

Which

francene:

I think Carrie did say when they were they were having dessert. She did say that she saw Big and Natasha wherever she did like the other day. And she was like, they just looked so happy. And she was like, I get it.

coryne (2):

Yeah.

francene:

And like that would be her hard. Like I've never seen an ex with someone else because I've Yeah.

coryne:

I know. My first husband, married the girl that he cheated on me with, and there was like a period of years, like immediately following all of that, where they were together and I would like, she would get suggested to me on social media. Yeah. And it would be a picture of them together and it definitely made my stomach drop

francene:

for

coryne:

a few years and, but I could see them today and it would have zero effect on me, but that's 20 years. I know. Yeah. Like it takes, that takes a lot of he. Like there, I have seen a picture of him. I think he got suggested to me what fucking social media, right? I think in probably like the last three years I think he got suggested to me and literally like when I saw his face I had No feeling about it. And I was like, Oh, that's 20 years

francene:

on.

coryne:

Yeah. But it takes a, I can't imagine that close to it for Carrie. Like no fucking way. It's all up in the Hampsons together. Like what a week ago. And she was like,

francene:

it literally

coryne:

made her

francene:

throw up. I know. And that's honestly, that's what I struggle with the most in this episode. It's you can tell she's really trying to process it, but continue to keep him in her life.

coryne:

Yeah, and it it goes back to that whole, remember the episode where she's I'm a masochist? Yeah. Yeah, it's like that. It's like, why? He did you wrong. I know. He, like, why continue, yeah.

francene:

Oh, Mr.

coryne:

Big. Not that I fully fault him, but it's like the, I don't fault Big until he goes to Paris and falls in love with a 25 year old and brings her back home, yeah.

francene:

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree. It's a pretty big thing, too.

coryne:

I'm talking here just about it big. I'm just saying. Yeah.

francene:

So then, it cuts to Sunday afternoon, Miranda's in her apartment, minding her own business, reading whatever she's reading. And then Steve comes over. He knocks on the door and she's oh, darn it. What's he doing here? And you know what? I will say why I like Steve. He is such a man, isn't he? He's so genuine. Yes, so genuine. He genuinely cares. So basically, he says hey, that was a really shitty thing that you did. It really hurt my feelings. But I'm like, oh my god, he is honest. He's following up. He cares about this relationship. Don't you have feelings? I know, I can. And then, as they were going through this scene, all I was thinking was, I, my head is immediately deleted. Why they even split up. I was like, why did they break up?

coryne:

But that's the thing about Miranda and Steve that I will say in this whole conversation about can you be friends with your ex? Miranda and Steve broke up for the stupidest fucking reasons ever. Like it was a financial incompatibility that you could have totally figured out. I

francene (2):

know

coryne:

it was like pride. On Steve's part and like lack of empathy on her, whatever, like they, that's the thing. And like, when he literally, I'm not even kidding you the moment that man came to my door and owned the fact that it hurt his feelings, let's get married, marry me right now. I don't give a shit. Like my money is your money. It doesn't matter anymore.

francene:

I agree. And it was actually nice to see the way Miranda. Immediately broke down cried and was like, I just really miss you. And yeah, when I think of something funny, I just want to tell you and he's then tell me, yeah. He's

coryne:

What are you doing on Saturday? And she's oh, I have a date. Obviously you're really excited about it.

francene:

I love, and you know what? I will say until the next scene in this moment, and they're obviously touching on this can you be friends with the next in this moment? I was like, they can be friends.

coryne (2):

Yeah.

francene:

They can do this.

coryne:

But again, I feel like, yeah, they can. And it's in coming scenes, it's going to show us why you can't just be friends. Because like Miranda and Steve are an excellent example of They both still love, like the thing, the difference between friends and lovers is sexual attraction. And if the sexual attraction is still there, you can't just be friends.

francene:

But do you believe that girls and guys can be friends? Like single? Cause I think of like my guy friends now, in where I'm at in life now, like they're married. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's like husbands of, My friends or whatever and I don't really know a lot of Single guys if you'd asked me this ten years ago, I would have said differently But do you think genuinely you can be friends

coryne:

with a guy so in my entire life? I've only maintained one platonic male friend Who's straight gay boys don't count. And we've known each other since we were 14 years old. And we're still friends and like one, one. And so I don't think it's common. I think that people want to believe that. I will say this too, though. Like I know girls who do that and it's. It happens all the time. So I don't, in my experience, they all want to fuck me. So of my friend Thomas, okay. Like with the exception of my friend Thomas. Now I will say as

coryne (2):

you get older,

coryne:

that

coryne (2):

is the best.

coryne:

What is the matter? That's just my

coryne (2):

experience.

coryne:

All right. There are other girls who do not have had that, who don't have that experience. And I'm glad that you have the ability to be friends with guys. They probably still want to fuck you. You just are unfuckable in their world. And good for you. I made the mistake of not being unfuckable. But as you get older, I will say like at this age, it's very different. And I think that like when you meet people of the opposite sex and they are attached to, people you love and respect or like I feel like you develop a friendship, but it is based on those parameters. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. That's funny. Yes. That's out of the equation. Yeah. And. I don't know that you would just

francene:

yeah, you know what I should say is fortunately my husband does not listen to this podcast and I've annoyed him about it and I'm like, I don't think he will but that's fine. So we can open things up. But okay so there's a guy in my work. Who he introduced me to, so my husband introduced me to him.

francene (2):

He's

francene:

also married, by the way. He's also older. I say older, he's like 48. Anyway, I used to have like coffee with him every day. Oh, no, not every day. Every week and we would get together. He works at my work like gotten really well But again, there was you know, I mean there was never that type of relationship So we're married and we just genuinely got on anyway He got moved roles and he's actually moving back to our work and I was telling Aaron I was like, I went up for a happy hour with him and I was like my god It was so good seeing him and Aaron's

francene (2):

And

francene:

I'm like, so I put in the complication of it also, it does test a relationship having a male friend that's out with that group. You know what I mean? If I was going to say, Hey, I'm going out with, my friends, like husband or whatever, it's a known relationship, known person, whatever else. But I feel like when you add like a foreign component and I would say my husband's like pretty non jealous, non, territorial, but even he's I don't like that you're like friends with this particular person.

coryne:

I think the true test is if you're friends with the male counterpart of a relationship and then they get divorced.

francene:

Fortunately,

coryne:

but

francene:

let me tell you, if he did, I know my arm would be like, Oh no,

coryne:

exactly. I have had too much experience in, my life when I was single of married men hitting on me to like ever feel, I don't know. Like I, so it happened to me. Several times when I was younger and in a sales role and it gave me this like perception of that's never safe space. And so like, when I was married to Michael, I went through like this decade period where it was like, I'm never going to put myself in a position where. And so I think that is that anyone has to question that period. And my, my, one of my best girlfriends, her husband, who they're not married anymore, but when they were like, he's a very Friendly gregarious person, just that is his personality. And he would reach out to me independent of her and want to like. No, it was completely above board. It was nothing at all that was inappropriate ever. But he would reach out to me directly and just be like, Hey, like this weekend, we're going to do this. Are you available? Or and then he would just call me during the week and just be like, how's your day going? And I would ignored him. And he mentioned it to her. It was like offended by it. And I said, listen, I was like, look, I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not comfortable with that. Like I don't ever want cause she's one of my very bestest friends in the world. I never want there to ever be a question mark in your head. Is that appropriate or not between the two? I don't want to be a part of that. At all. And I have always been really standoffish with that. I will say that period of my life I was. At this period, I feel I don't know. I don't currently have any relationships like that. But I feel like I, I might have a different opinion of it other than like my business partner who is married to my cousin. And so talk all the time because we're in business together and like that, but that's very particular. It's very visionable. I don't seek it out. I feel like I have just in my life, I haven't had enough experience with like men just wanting to have platonic relationships that I feel comfortable doing it.

francene:

I'm like obviously the opposite. You have Sparkle. They're like, I

coryne:

don't know if that's it. I don't know if that's it. It might be me. It's probably me. I think I put off the wrong energy or something. I don't know. I do have, you need to up my energy. You have a kind of flirty personality with men and women. Like it's just who I am. Yeah. And I think that like it gets misconstrued.

francene:

You're like, let me tell you, I don't wanna fuck you. Yeah, I understand that you want to fuck me. I get

coryne:

it.

francene:

Who doesn't? Let's be honest. It's like the best quote. Oh my god. I can't wait to listen back to this. Okay. They're gonna be friends. Steve is like, hey, do you want to do you want to go out for dinner with me? And they agree. Then it cuts to pointless scene with Charlotte running. I can't. I can't with Charlotte in this episode. So she's like running Central Park. She's Oh my God, there's there's a horse. And it reminds me of Taddy, the horses she had when she was younger and something happened and she must have fallen off of it. And I'm like, I did horse riding since I was seven. I'm like, girl, when a horse throws you off, you get back on again. Obviously she did not.

coryne:

Yeah. Do you know how many times I've been thrown off a horse? Do you know how many horses have thrown me off the horses? Do you know how many times my horse threw me off in an arena? And bit me. Like a crowd full of people. And he just dumped me at the second barrel and then turned around, looked at me like, what are you doing down there? What?

francene:

My horse would go out of his way to embarrass me.

coryne:

I can't like, get it together, Charlotte. You don't fall off once and give up. I honestly can't. It's such a

francene:

freaking pathetic. It's like they couldn't think of anything like, come on writers, do better.

coryne:

Yeah, it's a good point. I do, I love horses so much that I was just like, horses in New York City! I was all excited about that. It does look magnificent. The storyline we missed that has already happened is Samantha. That's next. Is it right after that? It is right after. Okay, I love this scene with her. I love it. Okay, go.

francene:

Okay, set the scene. Samantha is walking down the street in New York. She is wearing the most gorgeous, strappy, red, bigger hugging dress. Oh my God, her lips her hair is so Marlon Monroe esque. She is old Hollywood. Like the most stunning I've seen Samantha stunning.

coryne:

Yeah, and

francene:

then this like Stallion of a man walks towards her legit though. That's the word Yeah, he is like a stallion. I even feel like the music is like giving off those five He's wearing a red tie. So they're compatible like So much sexual chemistry in just how they look at one another. I couldn't, this scene is stunning. I love everything about this scene.

coryne:

Yes.

francene:

And then

coryne:

yeah, part two, when they, he turns around to speak to her and they're filming through the window and you could see Prada written backwards. Yes.

francene:

And she, and you can tell, and I love this about Samantha. If it was me, I would keep on walking and turn around, like giggle and just not be as cool as Samantha, but she purposely stops. at the store, pretending she's looking through the window. So then he then comes over and I love this like power move.

coryne:

Yeah, it's sexy.

francene:

Oh, God is so sexy. And he's I want to have dinner with you. And she's Oh, you're so cocky, And I love it. I love it. I love that she

coryne:

loves it.

francene:

Yeah. And she tries to throw it off. And I love that she

coryne:

plays, she plays it coi, because that's not normally her move. Like Savannah's would've been like, fuck dinner, let's go back to my place. But she plays it cool. And is I don't know if I can do that. She's like

francene:

we, you just met me on a screen. Yeah. Street.

coryne:

Yeah. She's super coy about it. He's yeah, he's I had to ask you and he's I'm gonna, it's give me your number. And she's I don't give my number to people I meet on this street. He's here's my number. Think about it. Think about meeting me for a friendly little drink. No, it's just,

francene:

but both of them, I feel like he is the equivalent of her in a male form.

coryne:

Agreed. Both of them. Yeah. Yeah.

francene:

So hot.

coryne:

It's a good match. It's a good match. I'm excited for her. I know what's coming.

francene:

Same. I was like, Oh, I just love this matchup. So then it cuts to Carrie looking in her closet and she founds a Laura Ashley dress. Is that brand still around?

coryne:

Laura Ashley, I think, I remember that brand, I think it's no more.

francene:

Yeah, I mean she said I remember the brand as well. They had like cute home stuff. Yeah, she's like the dress is from 1988 And then

coryne:

she's like this dress but I you know, it brings her back to the whole X conversation Yeah,

francene:

she's if I have this dress I've kept it this long. Come on, and then when she calls big I'm like don't do it Carrie, but she calls big who picks up Natasha. Immediately, she puts down the phone. Honestly, I would have done the exact same thing.

coryne (2):

Same, because you're so Why

francene:

are you phoning him?

coryne:

I have so many First of all, why are you phoning him? Second of all yes, when you are expecting him to answer and a woman answers, your instinct, it's like you can't even think it through before you pick it up. Oh, yeah. Did I dial the wrong number? I get it. And then, what the fuck is she doing answering your phone, big? Y'all have been together six minutes. Like, why is she picking up the phone in your house? You're a professional businessman. Who do you think is calling your number, Big? I know. And she's not this is the Big's residence. No, she's hello? Like she lives there? What the fu no, inappropriate. It's her home now. I'm very psyched. It

francene:

is her home

coryne (2):

now. You're 26. Don't answer the phone. Know your manners.

francene:

But then, I die.

coryne:

She then calls back. Because she says, she's then I realize big as caller id. Which that dates this episode so beautifully like that you had to realize somebody had it.'cause that means not everyone had it. That's, oh, big, it wasn't like an automatic thing that like, came through big Got it. Big answers this time. And he is hello? And she's hello to you. Like in her normal kind of ca you know, fo casual vibes that Carrie puts off,

francene:

but he's was that you that just called? And then she's just so awkward. And she's look

coryne (2):

no, yes.

francene:

He's do you know what? I love the line. He's you sound nuts. And she said break.

coryne:

Apologize to Natasha for me. How is Natasha? He's Oh, she's doing great. And he's like, how are you? And she's I'm doing good. I'm doing good. You sound a little nuts. And then I love that she takes it in stride and she's come on, you can't let one slide,

francene:

but also I have to admit maybe I would be different. Now, at this age, I honestly don't know, but good on Natasha, because clearly like he's on the phone and she's walking around the kitchen and then walks off. But even like I'm such a nosy person, I'm like, who are you speaking to? What's up? And it's not out of like jealousy, but if Aaron said to me like, Oh, I'm speaking to my ex, I'd be like, why are they phoning? What's happening? Yeah. Like

coryne:

what's the D I pick up the other line. I need to hear all of this. Yeah. For me, I have to say as much as I want to hate her because she's dating big, she's very

francene:

classy.

coryne:

She's the, through the whole fucking thing.

francene:

Yeah. She literally does nothing wrong.

coryne:

Nothing wrong. She's a class act. Through all of it, I can think of one scene where she's a little nutty, and fuckin justifiably yeah. Not even she's clas like, she is. She's a classy ass broad. Yeah, none of this is her fault either. No, but I mean like this. Yeah, so I Never have a moment where I hate her.

francene:

No same to be honest. Yeah, same and especially watching it back I feel I mean at the time you're like, oh, who is this Natasha? But as an adult I agree. I constantly think, wow I don't think I could have acted as

coryne:

classy or put together or not at all. Yeah. Crazy. 20, 26 years old. That's impressive.

francene:

Yeah. I can't even act like that. And I'm 10 years older than her. I can act like that now upon reflection. So then they go back and forth and she's Hey, so do you want to do lunch? And They agree to it, which also I'm like, I don't know. Again, I understand she wants to see him and it's a TV show and everything else, but I

coryne:

mean, so many things there. I feel again, you're a glutton for punishment. Yeah. Big, what are you doing? I know. Did he tell

francene:

Natasha?

coryne:

Yeah, you're punishing her. And three yeah, is Natasha cool with that? I can't imagine being like, yeah, go ahead. I'm very comfortable with and again, it's an age thing probably and a kid's thing, but I'm comfortable with Like when Michael and I were together, I was always comfortable with him having a relationship with his ex wife and I would, it would have been fine if like they went to lunch, whatever, like that would have been fine. Not three months into our relationship, I wouldn't have felt comfortable with that. Yeah. Like it takes a, to establish your, and like Jay, like with Jason, like I, now I would be comfortable with that, but like right off the jump, that's a little fresh for everybody,

francene:

and I wonder too, and now we caught to them like going to lunch, but I wonder from Big's perspective, if He wants the opportunity to speak to her, make amends, yeah, tell her, what's happening like in his life and he wants to be the one to say it to her. And this is a good avenue for that because I will admit to big, I also feel conducts himself pretty. Wow.

coryne:

I think it speaks also to this connection between Carrie and Big, which it is something special.

francene:

Yeah. Yes. They obviously care. He cares.

coryne:

He cares about her. Yeah. He doesn't care about him. If not, he wouldn't go. And she doesn't give a fuck about having a friend shit, but it is a, it does circle back to the continuum of this. I know even when he's obviously in love with someone else, he still loves Carrie enough to like, want to consider her feelings. Try to maintain some kind of, those things. And we do see, so like the next scene is them going to lunch together, which he,

francene:

he like, this is the first time we've seen him. Him nervous.

coryne:

Yeah. Yeah. He's very nervous. And so is she. And like he falls over like some, which is cute, which, and. And I love when they sit down to lunch and they're like, the waiter's what would you like to drink? And he's Oh, I'll just have a water. And she's get water for me too. And they glanced at each other and he's I'll have an old fashioned. She's thank you. Like they're both.

francene:

I do love that too. And I also think like they, they obviously needed that. Cause then it. Cuts and they've obviously been there for a while, catching up and you can tell they've had a couple of drinks or a little bit boozy, but they're reminiscing. They're reminiscing about, and it all feels

coryne (2):

cozy and

coryne:

friendly. Yeah, for sure. And then Carrie broaches the subject of okay, tell me about the girl, which like, again, why are you torturing yourself? I

francene:

know, I know, like why, and really, she just wants to know what what is it about her, that isn't me, that isn't me, and again, I appreciate she's trying to broach the subject and be like, okay, I'm cool and cool, but what I do like about this human moment is she's okay, so tell me about the girl, and he's she's really sweet, and she's okay, nope. That's it. That's all. We're

coryne (3):

good. Yeah.

francene:

Can't do it. Can't do it. Let's just agree. We're not gonna do it. And then she's okay, let's not talk about, our relationships until they're serious. And this is when he's it is serious. We're engaged and oh god, just seeing Kari's face. I just, oh, my heart broke for her because it's been five months.

francene (2):

I know,

coryne:

Oh, this just, yeah, it kills me in so many ways. It's been five months. She's clearly still in love with him And the way that it ended, because he wouldn't commit to her, like they were like, what you can't commit. Yeah. What do you mean? Like you can't commit. Yeah. And yeah, it's gut wrenching. And then she, has to get herself out of there. And it's a very dramatic scene. Like it's a scene of her.

francene:

Like out of all of her moments, I. Probably get it. I get it. To be honest, I would have been like, get the fuck out of my way. Like you're a dick. You did this. I hate you. Yeah.

coryne:

I would have flipped a table and thrown a drink. She did better than I would have done.

francene:

I think it was only because they finished their drinks.

coryne:

I would have real housewives my way out of that scene.

francene:

Yeah. I just can't imagine how like hurtful and Again, Big was like, I wanted to be the one to tell you, I didn't want you to find out from anyone else. So I think that's the other element of why he wanted to have lunch with her. But it is a little bit funny how when they go into the restaurant, Big falls up the steps. When she is dramatically leaving, like her chair falls down. She's don't help me get your hands off of me. She then slips down the steps and she's these stairs are so dangerous. You need to look at them. I love that. It's correct. We do add a little bit of comedy, but it's just sad. And he's please don't let it end like this. And she's you did this. Yeah. And she

coryne (2):

did this. He's not wrong.

francene:

She's

coryne (2):

not around.

francene:

It's so sad. And then before we continue into this gut wrenching, dramatic episode, we then are taken adrift by another pointless scene with Charlotte. I'm like, this is a great horse scene, whatever. Then we cut to Samantha. Seriously. Like I can't even, I didn't even write notes. I was like, this is not even worth talking about

coryne:

on

francene:

the

coryne:

horse. There's a horse and they're in the city anyway, is now honestly. Samantha has cut to her bedroom with the guy she met on the street. Mr.

francene:

Cocky.

coryne:

Yeah, obviously they did they meet for a drink or did they just meet? No, I

francene:

think they did. And then after they're back at Samantha's and she's Oh, we're ready. And he's wait, before we go any further, I need to warn you. And she's Oh, and he's I'm very well endowed. And she's oh, I am ready. And he's no, it is huge. And she sees it and you can tell she's like she gulps. She's oh, like how big is this?

coryne:

Listen the realisticness of this scene is it's not great because like you can push a baby So it's not this big, there's no way it's six inches in circumference. I'm sure it's large, but what's, there's no way it's so big it won't go in there. You know what I mean? Like it just takes time. Like you just gotta go easy. I don't

francene:

know. Like Samantha to have that face. Exactly. That's when you know it's big.

coryne:

Look, it, he doesn't have elephantitis of the cock. Okay.

coryne (2):

Elephantitis. It's not

coryne:

fucking Charlotte. Okay. Like Samantha's, she's, seen a dick or two. Like I'm sure they make a big deal. Braced is herself. Yeah. And he's she's okay. Okay. Okay. She's okay. And he's are you ready? And she's it's not, you're not. Yeah. It's just like already losing her

coryne (2):

shit.

coryne:

Like the man that has met her kryptonite. Okay.

francene:

Yeah. And it's funny that we have the two extremes of Samantha that when she was with James. Yes, it was so small. And now this is too big. And they actually reference this when she's the next scene, she's out for a walk with Carrie and she's talking about and she's I just didn't want to like I nearly got locked jaw just like looking at it. She's I'm not gonna put that in my mouth. But she's I'm gonna gear myself up for next one. And then Carrie's you dated Oh no, Samantha says you've dated Mr. Big and I'm dating Mr. Too Big. And then Carrie's who are you, Goldie Cox?

coryne (3):

Which I love. That's great writing. That's fucking great writing, for sure. I love it.

francene:

But then we go to Steve and Miranda, so they just had dinner, they're back at Miranda's apartment, and of course they're in the bedroom, and she, he wants his sweater back, and she's no, so they're all kind of flirty, she's no, I love this. They're very cute, very

coryne:

friendly, like they're, yeah, they're being really sweet. Yeah, it's adorable.

francene:

And you see the expensive bedsheet behind them.

coryne:

The horrific bedsheet.

francene:

She's tonight's the night. But then also they're standing just so close to one another. So close, you can feel the chemistry. He goes in to kiss her and she's on my cheek. And

coryne (2):

then

francene:

he's do friends kiss? And he kisses her neck. And then he just. Kisses her again. And then you're like they're back together.

coryne:

And also that scene is the first time I realized how much taller she is than him. Oh yeah. Yeah. She's three inches taller than him.

francene:

Yeah. Cause do you not remember the scene with the blue moon? Yes. Outside in the rain. I remember that's the only other time that you see them

coryne:

standing right next to each other and it's yeah, this was the first one I caught that she's so much taller than he is.

francene:

Yeah. I know. I prefer someone taller personally. Personally, I

coryne:

mean, I respect it I respect, and honestly, I respect the men who don't give a shit if the girl's taller than them good for you, I think that takes a level of self confidence that many men don't have as a total woman. Especially, but yeah, it's definitely just better to be shorter than the man that you're with. Even if, even by a few inches, like it makes a difference for sure.

francene:

Although like sometimes, when you see people and they're like I wouldn't want to be with someone that's seven foot cause it must be so for their necks like to go down and kiss you. And then you can't even just be on your tiptoes like, yeah. My,

coryne:

My college roommate, her, she is 5'6 and her ex husband is 6'7.

coryne (2):

Oof.

coryne:

Yeah. Like a full foot taller than her and yeah the best part is bearing his children. She has twin girls. That are, my daughter is tall for her age. Cause I'm like, she's always been in like the 95th percentile on height. And her daughters are two years younger than my daughter. And they're the same height. Our daughters, and they're going to be like she's five, six, they're going to be five, six by the time they're 12. Oh, my God. Yeah they're gonna be so maybe even before that they're gonna be so tall. Anyway. Yeah, that's the I've seen it in person. I've seen it.

francene:

It does work. Yeah, and then yeah, it's just fucking Miss Charlotte. She then gets on the horse and it's fine. She's

coryne (3):

yeah,

francene:

she's, she decided she could be friends with the horse. Great. Never see her riding a horse again, though. Fucking Charlotte. Nope. Random storyline. Random storyline. Dewberry Ryers. Okay. So then. Oh, yeah. So then Big's at home and you can see him, obviously has a lot in his mind and he calls Carrie and this is where, and we've said this before, we said it with the episode with Jeremy because he was obviously seeing it, cold eye. He was like immediately, and I know from his opinion, he was like, Carrie's like crazy, whatever. And then one of the things you said, you were like no. It's always being both sides. And this is another. Like visibility into like it's him also being like I'm not ready for it to end this way. I don't feel good about this Yeah cares about Carrie. So the fact that he's the one picking up the phone calling her and then he gets her answer machine and He's look, I'm sorry. That's not you know, how I wanted that to go bubble Bob She then picks up and is Hey, I'm here. She's I'm sorry to, she's I wish you both to be happy. And he's do you mean that? She's no, but I will in the future, which I appreciate. I appreciate it.

coryne:

Yeah. It's a conversation to listen to. Like it's tough because there's just so much. Love between them still, and like it, that's the thing that just it's the thing that kills about that relationship through this whole thing that like, nobody could understand the nuance by watching one episode, but no, yeah it's that back and forth. It's that. There is a bond between the two of them that is unbreakable, even when it's broken.

francene:

Yeah. Yes, I agree. Yeah, I agree.

coryne:

And that's the hardest part, I think, for both of them. I empathize with both of them, where it's just not working between the two of us. And Big is in this other relationship. And he's obviously feels confident enough about that person that he thinks he wants to marry her. And but he still needs to know Carrie's okay. Yeah.

francene:

I just can't. So then the next scene, she's at home, she gets in the mail, the engagement card, which also, why would you invite her to the,

coryne (2):

like that? And again, I think it's Natasha. Okay. With that. That's weird.

coryne:

I think it's Natasha trying to be a class act. And I think it's, I think it's her trying to extend an olive branch because I do believe that big has been honest enough with Natasha, Carrie and like the hope in his life that she's genuinely trying to like, allow it and welcome it and be okay with it. I do think that it is something that Natasha was part of. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't get it. I don't get it. Big perspective of like, why do that to

francene:

her? I know. I just, yeah, I agree. I do think it's that, but God, it's just like rubbing it in. And it also, it just feels so like quick and it's all

coryne:

very quick. It's

francene:

also quick. I do love that. It's at the Plaza. Like I'm here for that. Yeah, of course it is. Of course.

coryne:

Wait, we missed a scene in here where Samantha's giving it a second go with Mr. Cocky.

francene (2):

Yeah. Wait, where we go? She's back in her

coryne:

place again and she's prepared herself. She's like a pot as well. Yeah. She smack open herself up Yeah. She's I can do this, I can do this. She's breathing in, I'm breathing out. I'm, I can do it. I can do it. She cannot do it. She cannot do it. Which I'm a little bit disappointed because Come on, Samantha

francene:

I, I, oh my God. Did you ever watch what. Was the Netflix show called, did you ever watch sex life? It came out during COVID. Did you watch it?

coryne:

I've seen like one or two episodes, but I've never gotten into it. Oh, my

francene:

God, you need to watch it. Just like the first season. Someone told me about it was one of my friends. And she was like, you need to get to the I think it was the third episode where you know, the guy like the Australian guy.

francene (2):

Yeah, tall

francene:

one, the hot one.

francene (2):

Yeah, when he's

francene:

in the shower, and he turns you see all of it, Corinne. It is a monster.

coryne (3):

Okay, I gotta watch just for

francene:

it is thick and long. Now I was like, holy shit. It was like full frontal. It's man, I haven't seen

coryne:

Yeah. I was like, with his prosthetic penis. 54 where he turns around, that's not real. That's not real.

francene:

No, I think this guy, it was real.

coryne:

Yeah. I'm going to watch it now.

francene:

If I was a guy and that was me, I would also be like Netflix. Sure.

coryne:

Round.

francene:

It's actually a good show though.

coryne:

Okay. As obviously episode three is, so I'm going to cue that up for this

francene:

tonight. I'm sure it's episode three. I was like, Oh my goodness, felt very prudish. I was like, Oh okay. So then it cuts to the girls are out having cosmopolitan. And this is what I mean. I just feel we're like iconic sex and say there, of course, they're all drinking cosmopolitans. They're all have like different color of glasses. And then they start, she starts saying, she, they're talking about bigs engagement. She's no, seriously, why her? What is it about her? And then Miranda's Hubble. And Carrie's Oh my god, of course. Now, I've never seen the way they were. Have you? I haven't

coryne:

either. Maybe I have, but I don't remember enough to like, be able to quote it, but

francene:

It's like an older film,

coryne:

super old, like black and white.

francene:

Yeah. I took like chat. GBT. I was like, can you just tell me difference between these like two girls? What should I know? Referencing like chat, GVD helped me. So basically they talk about there's two characters in this movie with this one guy and one of them has like curly hair. She's a little bit Yeah, I forgot how they describe her, but yes. And then you have the other type of girl who's the Katie girl. It's a simple girl. So straight hair just. Natasha, basically,

coryne:

yeah vanilla, which will come into play later in this relationship with big. And it's and

francene:

then they speak about the last scene in the film where they're at a hotel and she says to the guy, your girl is lovely Hubble. And then the girls saying that song memories and Smith is I don't know what you're talking about. I felt the same. They sing it super loud. And then Samantha's I miss James. Miss his small cock. And now We're at the last scene, so Carrie decides to go to the plaza, which again, Ugh, I, why would you need to see, and she times it perfectly. But she,

coryne:

doesn't she's walking home, and it's not 100 percent

francene:

There's no way she lives near the plaza.

coryne:

She does not, but it's not 100 percent intense, she just goes by that way, and then, as And story writing for HBO have it as she's walking by big and Natasha are coming out of the hotel and they're getting into their car. They're like saying goodbye to people. And she was just standing there, like watching them and big puts Natasha into the black town car. And he walks over and he like looks up and he's Carrie. I know epic moment and he walks over to her and I will say again, Natasha class act. Like she sees that he's walking over there. Doesn't cause a scene like at

francene:

all.

coryne:

And

francene:

her a little bit like watching from the car, but yeah, I mean that, that must take a lot, especially knowing your fiance's ex has just showed up,

coryne:

but you invited her to be fair. You know what I mean? Like you didn't invite her to the engagement party. But yeah, I, anyway, he walks over and you relay the exchange. Cause I'm going to forget exactly how it goes except he was

francene:

like I do appreciate he makes a little bit of a joke. He was like, I thought I would know what to say when I was walking over. He's you're late. The party's over. Which I do love trying to break it in. But then, yeah. She basically says she needs to know, like, why, like, why her? Why not me? And he's it just got so hard.

coryne:

Yeah. It's it just got so complicated. And she's I get it. I get it. And then she says, your girls love it. Lovely. Yeah.

francene:

She like grabs his face and he's I don't get it. And she's and you never did. And then she flings her hair, like her wild horse hair. That scene is just amazing. And she walks off. But what I love is in her mind, and in like my mind, if I did that scene, you'd be like, Oh my god, that was so iconic. Meanwhile, he's standing there confused.

coryne (3):

What?

francene:

And he just walks back to the car. And then she sees a horse, of course, and who Someone's trying to put like a bridle on and the horse is like throwing his head and the guy gives up and she's

coryne (2):

some horses,

francene:

maybe, yeah, he could just couldn't tame or break me.

coryne:

She makes some great line. It's what I like this line a lot too, where she says, maybe some, I don't even know. She says horses. She's maybe are not meant to be. I don't know if it's tame, but she says are not meant to be broken. Yeah. Some of us are looking for the other, it's just as a horse, but we're looking for someone we can run wild with.

francene:

Yeah. And she

coryne:

loves that.

francene:

Yeah. Camera. And oh my God, she just looks absolutely. Stunning.

coryne:

Yeah,

francene:

she

coryne:

does. It's one of that white dress or great in this, like it's such a beautiful scene and it also just cuts, like it cuts.

francene:

I can't imagine. Imagine watching this live and you're like, Oh my God, what happens now?

coryne:

Oh, I know. That was the, that was like the season ending. That was it. Yeah. No. No. I want to know. I know. Like you got to wait a year to see what happens next. Like I know they did a good job. It's good. It's great writing on the end of that. And I mean it is as terrible as the storyline with Charlotte was, it's like they pull it all together with this like last scene of the horse narrative.

francene:

Yeah. Fine. You

coryne:

know, they bring it all back. Sure.

francene:

Yeah,

coryne:

sure. That's

coryne (2):

it. That's season two. Oh my God. We wrapped it. We wrapped

francene:

season two. Look at

coryne (3):

us. Good job,

francene:

I know. Now we need the quiz masters so we can do some quizzes.

coryne:

I think we should do an in-between episode before we start season three. That's just yes. Random convo and quizzes.

francene:

Yes. I agree. That needs to be the plan. So we will get that organized. Can we

coryne:

bring Aaron on for that episode just for like his negative commentary?

francene:

You know what though? You know what would annoy me? Is he would get them all right.

coryne:

Yeah. I know. Cause he's a hating ass fam. Like he knows it better than we do. Yeah. He's a hundred percent a hater. He loves to hate it more than we love to love it. Okay.

francene:

I honestly think so too, which makes me like really happy.

coryne (3):

Yeah. I like that. I like that about Aaron for sure.

coryne (2):

Oh,

coryne (3):

it's awesome.