Not to Forgive, but to Understand
A podcast series discussing topics in genocide studies with scholars and individuals deeply involved in understanding the complexities of genocide and its perpetrators. Presented by writer, and scholar of Genocide Studies Sabah Carrim, along with co-host Luis Gonzalez-Aponte. Tune in to this podcast series for insightful discussions on pressing topics in the field.
Not to Forgive, but to Understand
Mahi Ramakrishnan: Refugees, Rights, and the Rohingya in Malaysia
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The plight of the Rohingya remains under-addressed in public discourse, even as the genocide case brought by The Gambia against Myanmar continues before the International Court of Justice.
In this interview, we speak with Mahi Ramakrishnan, an investigative journalist, filmmaker, and founder of Beyond Borders Malaysia, about refugees in Malaysia, the legal and political barriers they face, and her use of film, advocacy, and the Festival on Wheels to build public understanding and community connection.
00:00 Opening / Content Note
02:29 Introduction
03:12 Rohingya Refugees in Kuala Lumpur
04:44 From Investigative Journalism to Beyond Borders Malaysia
11:32 Documenting Rohingya Stories and Malaysia’s Response
15:20 Refugees, Race, Religion, and Malaysian Law
20:48 Refugee Communities in Malaysia
26:02 Patriarchy, Toxic Masculinity, and Community Education
28:29 Child Marriage, Trafficking, and Exploitation
34:35 The Origins of the Refugee Festival
38:48 Migrant Workers, Refugees, and Legal Protection
40:51 Community Support for Refugee Advocacy
42:51 From Refugee Fest to Festival on Wheels
46:21 How Festival on Wheels Builds Local Connection
48:30 Future Goals for Refugee Rights in Malaysia
53:36 An Image That Stays with Her
55:08 Documentary Scenes and the Violence Refugees Face
57:14 Closing Remarks