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S2:E17 Things You Should Know Before Ordering Custom Upholstery Furniture
Have you ever walked into a furniture store, sat on a sofa and thought. Wait, why does this feel like a marshmallow wrapped in cardboard? Or maybe have you bought a chair that looked amazing online and then it showed up and it was stuffed with packing peanuts and it was just, ughgh... Well, today we're sitting down with our friend Jennifer, who, let's be honest, probably knows more about furniture that most of us know about our own family.
She's been in the custom upholstery world for nearly 30 years. That's a lot of fabric and sofas y'all. And today, she's spilling the secrets. What's worth your money? Just clever marketing and how to spot a piece that will actually last you for the length of time that you want it to last.
So whether you're redecorating... or just tired of furniture that gives you buyer's remorse... or maybe even back pain... or maybe that spring that keeps poking you in the rear, this episode is full of the kind of tips you'll wish you knew sooner. Let's get into it.
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Have you ever walked into a furniture store, sat on the sofa and thought. Wait, why does this feel like a marshmallow wrapped in cardboard? Or maybe have you bought a chair that looked amazing online and then it showed up and it was stuffed with packing peanuts and it was just, well, today we're sitting down with our friend Jennifer, who, let's be honest, probably knows more about furniture than most of us know about our own family. She's been in the custom upholstery world for nearly 30. Years. That's a lot of fabric and sofas y'all. And today, she's spilling the secrets. What's worth your money? Just clever marketing and how to spot a piece that will actually last you for the length of time that you want it to last. So whether you're redecorating or just tired of furniture that gives you buyer's remorse or maybe even back pain, or maybe that spring that keeps poking you in the rear, this episode is full of the kind of tips you'll wish you knew sooner. Let's get into it.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Today Dwayne and I are with our very good friend. Well, I say that'cause I adore her, but I don't know that much about her I guess when you work with people professionally, sometimes you don't invest in the rest of their life. But our friend Jennifer, who has been,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:I ask. I know I'm involved.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:know, you are, you are a preacher, you like to sit and chat, and I'm just like, I'm just trying to jump from one thing to the next.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:No, no, no, no. You are a selfish gay. Let's admit it.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, there we go. I'm gonna get a little placard. I'm gonna get a placard to put on my, my office, is, if we have a question about furniture or this, this lady, I'm not gonna call her girl, but I would, I want, you know what I'm gonna say, bitch, this bitch her upholstery no other. How
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:How long?
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:say you've been in the furniture business?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Since 97, so 28 years. I think that's the, the right math.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:blows
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:that possible? You're not even 28.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Thank you.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:I really, listen, I really thought she was like 28, so that's why I don't understand. Um,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:it blows my mind. So,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:So Jennifer, Jennifer's probably just slightly younger than I am. I look 80 and she looks 28 something in the DNA pool. You exercise and eating something, right? I don't know what's happened, but I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna stay off the pasta, I guess. I don't know. Anyway.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:reminds me of that award ceremony where it was like Hugh Grant and Angie McDowell, and when he goes up to the microphone, he was like, this is the, presentation of someone who's used moisturizer their entire life and someone who's never used it. Right? Because he is all like wrinkled, because not that you're wrinkled, Dwayne, you're not at all, but, you know, um, okay, so Jennifer. Why don't you give, give us a, for our listeners, let them clue them into bit about you.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, I'm originally from Eastern Kentucky, Prestonsburg, and I went to EKU, did interior design school There.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:not know that. I'm a EKU grad too.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Are you really?
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah, I was apparel design merchandising, but you know, we started out in some of the same classes,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. Interior design there, and I got my. First job at Lexington Furniture, and I've been there ever since. And yes, I've been there for a while. And, um, just, I am all about quality of furniture. I'm kind of, I would call myself a furniture snob because I am all about, like the way it's made and something that's gonna last you a long time and, um, yeah, how, you know how well it's made. And I, I educate my customers all the time, whether they wanna be educated or. Not, I just go ahead and tell'em. a matter of fact, I had a young couple in the other day, someone you would not expect at all, and they came back and they said, we are not buying from anybody else, just because we went to other stores and they're filling underneath the sofas to see how it's made.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. Wow. Well, this is why we really wanted to have you on because we knew that wealth of knowledge when it comes to furniture, um, you know, first of all, you know, we, we know just as doing design work. That not all furniture is created equal, but sometimes we can't explain to a client without someone who's really been in the wheelhouse and knows all the nuts and bolts and ins and outs and all that. So we really wanted to be able to provide our listeners with. Information that they can go away from today so that the next time that they're looking at getting some, a custom upholstery that they're armed with more information so they can make a better decision, or at least a more informed decision. They may not still be able to change the outcome that much, but at least they understand a little bit better their situation. And so that's why we really wanted to chat with you.'cause I just thought we both thought that that would be very,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:I little secret about Jennifer,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:tell me, I love Dirty Secrets.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:uh, I really didn't want to have to work with her.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:It's'cause you didn't know me.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, don't you start with me. See that, that attitude, that hillbilly eastern Kentucky attitude all the time. So I always, worked with a guy named Mark and because Mark and I worked together at previous life in another furniture store in Mark, at the. Heart of it is an engineer. He wants to know how, it's kind of the technical aspects of things. Right. Well, you know, I could care less, right. So I wanna know if it's pretty and will it kind of, uh, fit and sit and all that kind of stuff. So at this furniture store, we would get, uh, somebody come in and I'd get some crazy and he of course if, sorry, engineer, uh, guys. Uh, but this is you. The truth. I was being like, y'all think it's a death? And so I'd get this engineer husband in and he wanna know the, the, how many screws are in it and how the drawers are made in the glide system. I. I don't know. Is it the right size and is it pretty and the right price? Right? I don't care. So I would invariably say, mark, you worked with this fool.'cause I can't handle this one. Right. Lulu Fufu would walk in with her curly hair and floppy hat, and she used to sunshine and she's like, I just want my house to be ready. And mark would get that and he's like, oh no. Mm-hmm. You need to go get Dwayne. So we always traded off with each other. Right. Our personalities fit. So I always worked with him because of that situation. Right. And this lovely voice answered and I said, this lady, and I said, Hey lady, is Martha. No, not working. Okay. Could I speak to Mary Jane, which was the second lady in charge who may be the sweetest iest person in the whole wide world, right? Absolutely. Just lovely. And the person on the phone a little bit drier this time, said, no, no. Mary Jane also is not working, Dwayne, but this is Jennifer. AKA number three. And that's how our friendship began. And I was like, Ooh, she's sassy and I like this. So I got her personal cell phone and I put it in mine. And so in my phone it is Jennifer AKA number three for the last 10 years,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:It is a true story.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:I love it.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:you know? I don't even wanna deal with Mark anymore, that Mary Jane
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, she were,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:useless to me. Gone. But you know who I knock on that door every time when I, I need help. AKA number three, Jennifer and Jennifer's my friend. And so those who don't know it, just like what Jeremy said, she knows her stuff. Jennifer, you know your stuff. And the other thing is she'll give an opinion, but she won't be pushy. She won't be wishy-washy, but she'll, she'll sell the truth. And sometimes I think at the core of it, I'm a truth teller. I don't know if I make you cringe sometimes with what I say in front of you, in front of my customers, but the end result is. I don't care about anybody anything because I, I just gotta make my customer, I gotta take care of them. Right. And you know that, and you get it. And sometimes we make a big old and sometimes we walk away. But generally. It turns out good. And then generally we know the customer takes care of us and they trust you. And they trust me and it's all good.'cause all we're trying to do is do the right thing for the person in the long run. And what you know, saying that your furniture snob is a hundred percent in fact. Now everybody needs to buy a three or$4,000 sofa, you know, and you got cheaper ones. You got more expensive ones. But I always say this, buy the best sofa you possibly can afford for the room that you're going to use it the most. Now, if it's in a living room, I care so much. If you don't right, you buy a cheaper one. But isn't that family room, you're sitting in it all day long. Buy the most expensive one you can. And that's when Jennifer helps me and she guides us. True story.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:people all the time. If it's your, your everyday use sofa, then we're gonna do quality. If it's gonna be in your living room. We're not gonna do the eight way hand tied all that. If it's just gonna be your pretty sofa or your pretty chair, then we don't have to have the the best quality or the most expensive. We're gonna do something that's gonna be pretty, but if it's gonna be your everyday use, we want something that's eight way hand tied, solid hardwood frame, spring down seat cushions. Those are gonna be your best quality. It's gonna hold up the longest. It's gonna cost a little bit more in the long run, but it's something that's gonna. Or outlast outweigh something you're not gonna have to worry about. You're gonna be, you know, worried about it's gonna fall apart in five years. It's gonna be like your 20, 30 year sofa.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:That's a true story. People don't think they last that long. If you get the right frame and you get the right, uh, brand, and that's what Jennifer helped you with, uh, you really can have a sofa for 30 years. I know. Um, we have a sofa now moved upstairs. Uh, that. When we got married, uh, so it's 30 years old. This sofa is now, it's been recovered, right?'cause it was ugly, uh, but recovered. But that sofa is lead and it's 30 years old from Lexington Furniture. It's a true story. So what, you know, why I wanna know is tell us how much. What, what's changed from 28 years ago until this moment, kind of give us a history lesson of like 10 year cycles or five year cycles of if you can do it that way, of how, how furniture has evolved to where it's been made and the quality of fabrics and price points, all it's kind of general information.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, as far as upholstery, I mean it all is still pretty much made in North Carolina, which is good. Um, you know, case good stuff, a lot of that was made in North Carolina. A lot of that is kind of import now, which has changed a whole lot, is.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:to them what taste goods,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, case goods would be like your wood goods, like, um, dining room tables and chairs, uh, cocktail tables and tables, bedroom, all of that stuff used to, most of that used to be made in North Carolina. A lot of that is import now. It's not all made in North Carolina like it used to be. But of a lot of upholstery, which are like sofas, chairs, all of that is all pretty much still made in North Carolina. There are a few companies that are in like, uh, Virginia or uh, Michigan, something like that. But most of it, most of that is still made in North Carolina, which is great,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:So here's the first question. So America keeps losing, um, production to China, right? And this is a huge conversation, debate.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:or
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:And there's
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:A lot of it's Vietnam.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Mm-hmm.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Vietnam, okay? Do you know, have you been told why they didn't take a, because why did they did not take upholstery to Vietnam, for example? Because if, if a, if a company, an American company, can screw over their employees and make$7 more, they'll take it to some, and you know this, look,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:do.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:been proven right. I'm not saying this, I'm not getting into politics, but that's the truth that they, not every company, but most big companies don't care about their employees. And so the curiosity is why did they not take upholstery to these other places? Do you know that?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, it's the customization, it's the fabrics.'cause you're customizing your fabrics. You couldn't get it out in that lead time.'cause when you take it to China or Vietnam, it's taken. 15 weeks and it's stuff you don't have any options with. When you have like wood goods or case goods, it only comes in that finish. Um, we do have companies, if you do change the finish, it's like 26 weeks to get anything. When it comes to like wood goods, if you were to do upholstery that way, it would take the same 26 weeks. Well, nobody's gonna wait that long on upholstery, so it being
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Okay.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Carolina, you can do your fabrics, pick whatever fabrics you want, finishes or whatever, and that's taken about eight to 10 weeks.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Hmm.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Okay. That just that it makes per c it's that simple of an answer. It's just because of the lead time. People would not wait that long and they said, okay, well we can't, we can't get your purple sofa. Uh, if we make it overseas. They weren't worried about their employee. They just worried because they knew they wouldn't sell it in the long run, that people wouldn't wait long. Okay. Okay. So sorry about that. I wanna, I wanted to know why it stayed in the States and that, that makes sense to me. Okay.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah, yeah. Um, were you talking about?
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Uh, well you,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:changed.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, how it's changed? Well, I mean, still most everything's an eight way hand tide. I will say there are some companies that have gone to like a Sinuous spring frame, which is a, a, a cheaper way to make furniture. Um, as eight way hand tide, it is, um, a better frame construction. It is, it does take longer to make, and it is, gonna hold up a little bit longer. Uh, most companies used to always be eight way hand tied. So as, as far as going. From eight way hand tied to Sinuous Spring. A lot of companies have switched to Sinuous Spring, which is easier to make and it's cheaper to make, but they haven't changed their price points on doing that. But they're still, they've Yeah, exactly. They've gone and made it Sinuous Spring, but they've made it even more expensive by doing that. Like we've had a couple of companies that will have, um, I don't wanna. Uh, maybe Century or Baker, those companies that have a higher end name and they'll say, Hey, we can make this sofa for you for a little bit less. But what they've done is they've made that a sinuous spring versus keeping it eight way hand tied. So those kinds of things have changed and they'll do like cheaper pillows. They're like, oh, well, you know, since you've got this cheaper brand. Or not cheap, not cheaper. Yeah. Actually we'll call it cheaper instead of like. Lesser expensive. They're, they're making it cheaper. They make it at a sinuous spring and they won't give you down pillows. Now they'll give you like, uh, fiber fill pillows. Now you can pay a little bit more and get an eight way hand tied. Now, Sentry and Baker do make eight way hand tied, but they'll say, we'll do this like a program sofa for you and make it, uh, a little bit less money. But what they've done is just make it cheaper and put that higher end name on it. Then you've got higher end companies like say their Taylor King Hancock, a Moore that have kept it eight way hand tied solid hardwood frames. And like Dwayne and I share a customer and she's got a, Hancock, a Moore sofa that she has had for 30 years, And she will not let go of that sofa. She's like, there is nothing wrong with this sofa. It is a burgundy sofa and we are decorating around it because there is nothing wrong with it. I'm
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, and the backstory on that, sofa was, has always been in the family room, and she has a, a builder husband. And is a big old boy, right? And she has 3, 3, 3 sons and a daughter. That, and dogs and cats, and the grand cats and grand babies have lived on that thing. And basically it won't die,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:This sofa will not die.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:And that's a good thing. That's a good thing.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:And that's, you know, and companies like Hancock Moore or Taylor King, they have lifetime warranty on their frames and they have lifetime warranty on their cushions so they won't die because they know that they are good companies. They've built them to last. So, you know, you're, yeah, you're gonna pay 3,500 to$4,500 for a sofa, but it's gonna last you for a long time. But then you have, you know, you're the top that I don't, I wanna replace my sofa ever. Five to 10 years. So you're not gonna invest that kind of money. So here we're gonna direct you to a different company that's not gonna be that expensive. So we'll find something that's, you know, not eight way hand tied, or, or maybe it is, it's just not as expensive. you know, king Hinky or some
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Here's, um, here's one of the lessons that I learned and I didn't know it as well as what I do now as a young designer. It is buying that really, really good sofa in the framework. That's good. Uh, but one of the other reasons I moved my sofa that is like lead that you can't kill upstairs is. It has an a dated frame to it, right? So I got a sofa that's super comfortable and it has these great old big, bulky arms from 1983. And then secondly, it has, it's a two cushion sofa, right? And that means instead of three cushions got two, somebody sits in the middle, your goes
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:infa use every single day. But I always tell people that, you know, I let you make your choice all day long. But I'm saying, this is what I know. Everybody on a two cushion sofa, everybody wants to sit on the ends, but nobody ever wants to sit in the middle. Right.'cause you're sitting in the crack, truthfully. Right. They're pretty,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:even if you
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:but
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:your bottom ends up in the crack.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:yeah, exactly. So I learned from my own personal hiccups is a. Let's look at a three cushion before we look at a two cushion just for comfort. But it is, and you see this every time with me, and now you'll understand a little bit more, Jennifer, I get stuck and hung up on the arm more than anything. Right? And you'll see that every single time because that's the thing that makes the sofa feel dated is the arm.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:I will always go back to what's the arm style that I.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:You like the English arm?
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. Yeah.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. That's classic. Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Timeless. Timeless if sofa upstairs an on it.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, when you guys first asked me a question, things that have changed that came to mind and I completely forgot to say it, is the big arms there. For a long time we had the sofas that had these. Gigantic arms and they were like seats and then slowly they were, there was like seats on each end and you'd have these a hundred inch sofas and they were gigantic. So luckily those arms have scaled down and they're not as huge as they used to be. And you know, the sofas have definitely gotten smaller and furniture's gotten smaller over times too. You gotta think, you know, back probably in the seventies, all the sofas set really low to the floor and well now sofas are getting a little bit higher, you know, off the ground.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:thank the sweet
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:I know,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:it's a real modern sofa, then they still make that bitch the damn low. I just have to roll out on the floor.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:know. Well, I think it's'cause we all getting older that we all know we can't crawl up out, out of them.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, I mean, I mean, I'm sure there's some
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:So that's, that's one of the things is when I work with Jennifer, we always, um, they have a lot of brands that you can build your own. So it means, which scares people. But if you're working with Jennifer, you're working me and Jennifer or another designer, but Jennifer's on, on her own, she'll guide you to what's classic, um, and you all can look at this up, maybe Jeremy will post it. There's, uh, called Arms, which is kind a little square. And not all track arms are the same for every company. Some are much more chic consumption. Some look like they look like they're from Ikea. And I, and I'll sometimes, Jennifer, I'll say to you, I don't like that track arm for that company, but this one, so it really depends on it. But I get stuck every single time on the arm and it really goes back to living my own disappointment because I paid so much for this sofa and. I hate the arm. So that's, that's the reason I'm always kind of very careful. I've learned my lesson, so I won't make a mistake for my clients down. But then you'll get somebody in there and they're like, I don't like this arm. I like this one. I'm like, good God. Get some taste woman.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:And I've said that, I think, I don't know, but
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:sure you
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:remember,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:and I'm
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:yeah. What can you remember? Is there anything I've said to somebody, Jennifer, that you just cringed or you go, oh, or you like rolled your eyes, like, I cannot believe you just said that.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:I'm sure there have been. I just can't think of one right now.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Okay, let's keep going. So we, we, we got everything made in America because we can't get it made in Vietnam'cause can't get it quick enough where the countries, the companies will send it off.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Um, what else do we want people to know?
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, I wanna know
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Um,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:when
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:yeah.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:what are the
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:The biggest,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:in your opinion, before someone's even stepped into a furniture? Place to, to, to explore what are some of the, the, the biggest mistakes that you've witnessed or what's a, a mistake that's very common before they even start shopping. Like, where should they start? Because that's really where I want to like, guide them,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:well usually, I mean especially get like women that come in there is like I. I bought this sofa and my feet don't touch the floor, or I bought this sofa and it's, um, it's too soft or it's too hard. They'll buy something online. They haven't sat in or, um. Yeah,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Dumb, dumb, dumb.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:you haven't sat in. And I personally have made that mistake and I will never do it again. So I think buying something that you've sat in makes the biggest difference. You've gotta see seat depth is a big, is something that's really important. And I know it doesn't sound like it's that important, but one inch and seat depth makes a. Big difference. I mean, whether it's a 22 inch seat, death, a 23 or 24, and I know that sounds minuscule, but it really is a big difference. Um, so sitting in something makes a big difference. And the, the quality of the seat cushion, whether it's softer or for firmer, that makes a big difference. Um, the back cushion I have noticed really doesn't make as big a difference on people. Most people don't really care like. The back cushion, but the seat cushion makes a big difference on people. How that feels to them, whether it's firmer or softer. So I think those are big things that people will come in that, you know, I got this and it just sat awful. It was too deeper, it was too shallow, it was too firm, or it was too soft. I think those are a big difference that people, mistakes that people have made that will come in, that we're trying to correct or make them go around and sit in everything before they make another purchase. Like, I don't want you to buy anything until you've sat in it.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. For the life of me, I don't understand how people any kind of upholstery that, that they've never sat in, that they, they order for something that they're gonna see to sit
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, absolutely.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Dining chairs is another great example of
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh yeah.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:in this,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, recliners. That's another one too.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:know,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. I won't let any, especially a man buy a recliner unless he has sat in it.'cause honestly, I don't wanna hear it.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, I,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:don't want them coming back to me.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:no, I also understand because I think we've both, I think Dwayne and I both have been in the situation when it comes to, you know, this is where they sit. This is, you know,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yep.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:right? This is their little throne, if you will,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yep.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:gotta, it's gotta fit, right. It's
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:When their wives come in, I was like, you're, you're gonna have to bring him in. I want him to sit in at first, just to make sure if we just get him in here for less than five minutes, just to sit in it, see where his head hits, see when he reclines, all that kind of stuff. We just make sure that it fits him. Good. We'll get him in him outta here.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:so they need, so we need to sit in it. Right. Makes
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yep.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:sense.'cause everybody's a little touchy, a little different.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Um, when it CI would suggest that people also, like you need to know your measurements or have an idea of
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:oh
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:space.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:yeah.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:so is there a guideline as far as like, is, do, is it best to know the, the, the size of what you had before? The size of the room? Like I would say, do you, does it help you when people come in with pictures? Because it
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, absolutely. Yeah. If they'll come in and if they don't really know what space that they've had, I'll like, just send me pictures. I'll be happy to help you. Scale it out, or, you know, or I'll, we'll, I'll come out and I'll scale it out for you. All that kind of stuff. Most people though, they'll know whether it's, you know, they've got it in the space or if it's too big. have issues when people wanna do sectionals. It's kind of more than that, and I'm like, all right. Yeah. Or they'll have no idea, oh, I wanna put a Chas in there, and I'm like A sha. I mean, do you know like where that's gonna come out or how that's gonna fit? Or what side? Yeah, which side they wanna put on, all that kind of stuff. So usually I'm like, send me pictures or, or draw it out, or any of that kind of stuff. Yeah, so there's usually that, that they've made mistakes on those parts that I can, we can definitely help'em out with.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:had the perfect example of when my husband and I went to go buy a sofa for. sunroom and, and it's only the two of us. We, you know, it's not a, we use it quite a bit, but it's not like it gets a ton of wear and tear with like a family of four and, and you know, all that kind of stuff. And so we were looking for a cheaper sofa and he was like, well, I think that last one was too small. I think we can get bigger. And I was like, there's no way I. no, do it. We can't do it. Well, I'd really like to put a sectional back there. I was like, Jeremy, there is no, well, I have another client who wants to put a sectional in their beach house, and I'm like, is, the way that this room is laid out, there is absolutely no way that we can fit this in here. Well, it would just really help me get a couple more seats. I'm like, well, it would get you some more seats, but nobody could get to it
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Exactly.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:it. It would not work.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:People are just not about space. They just don't get it. They're not visual. I've got one right now that they wanna put these huge recliners in there and we're in the room and I'm like, you all, this room is not that big. It's not gonna fit these gigantic sec, a sectional in these huge recliners. It's like,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:just throw down a sofa. I
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:like we're standing here. It's not gonna work.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, one, one of the things I do, unless it's very, very, very clear, I always ask Jennifer and not to be lazy. I always ask Jennifer to go out and measure and look at it. I think I have the general idea, but honestly I don't have a pretty good sense of scale. I don't have nearly as good a sense of scale as what, uh, like Stewart has, and I know you have Jennifer, so I always use that as a another step and she'll go out and measure it. Um, because it goes back to, if anything, I'll end up getting the sofa a little too small then too big because I hate. I always go into my cousin's, uh, double wide, and she's got that real, real couch, that pretty couch from Big Sandy furniture that reclines on both sides. Again, it's real tall and it's outta that kind of, almost looks like that green that you do for, uh, ammo and, uh, uh,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:God.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:and ducks. You know what I'm talking about, right?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, big
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:And uh.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:forever.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. Well, and the sofa back is about two thirds of the way up on the wall, and she's like, it is real comfortable. I'm like, well, yeah,'cause it's all you see is a couch, right? You can't see the room. And so I'd always rather go a little bit smaller and scale than too big. So that's why I always ask Jennifer, truthfully, Jennifer, not be lazy because, um. Yeah, I think you get, I think you get the scale better than that because the rest of it we can do together. And I can, I can see this, the, the, the, the, the style and the fabrics. But that size thing, it's like, you know, I need a little, I really do need a little help. And that's where you need to, to know, um, what you're, you're good at and what you're not good at. Right. And admit that and say, you know, I need help. And, uh, that's what Jennifer, you do you help.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:definitely not as good at the fabrics as, as many other people I can. The scaling and the, the quality of furniture, all that kind of stuff, those are things I enjoy more than I do. I'm not as good as putting the fabrics together, so
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:let's chat
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:But.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:fabrics because we know with, with in modern day we've, we've got so many new performance
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh gosh. Yeah.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:it. people now adjusting and using performance or they still like, how, how does that feel and where do you like, I know what our opinions are of like when people should use that, um, but I'm interested for you who, someone really into it, how do you feel about performance
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:pretty
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:with the definition of what performance is and kind of little bit history. Just start there.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:well, performance fabrics are pretty much. Fabrics that are going to perform better. So they're gonna be more stain resistant, liquid resistant, uh, easier to clean, easier to take care of, uh, last longer essentially. But they're gonna be fabrics. They're gonna be better for everyday use if you've got, you know, children, pets, you know, that kind of stuff. If you're gonna use it for every day, is. Far as, uh, if you're, if you're hard on things. And essentially for that use, um, we have more people that come in and ask for performance fabrics than, more than anything these days. Like people didn't really ever ask us about how a fabric was gonna wear, like they do now. When they come in, they essentially ask for a performance fabric. Um, so we probably, we sell that more than anything. And the performance fabrics have definitely got way better than they used to, used to just kind of have like umbrella or krypton. Now you've got. Umbrella, Krypton Inside Out Revolution. Um, gosh, I can't even think of any others. There's like tons of other name brands of different.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:a lot more colors,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, absolutely. They've got Chanels, they've got patterns. I mean, like C Lane just came out with tons of like pretty umbrella fabrics with like patterns on them. Um, and lots of companies hadn't even done that. Um, and then you've got, like, inside out now that they're like bleach cleanable, like you can get a navy blue fabric and it's like bleach, cleanable. I mean, like, how do you do that? I mean, it's, it's crazy. I mean, I've never really. Try to, maybe I will. We'll see. Um, but they've just got all kinds of great performance fabrics these days that don't feel like you're indoor, outdoor kind of fabrics, something you wanna cuddle up into and makes it, you know, a lot easy to take care of, especially, you know, people. Use their furniture. They don't have their formal living rooms like they used to, and people allow their pets on their furniture. You know, those are their babies these days. So something you don't have to worry about. Your kids are jumping on their furniture. You don't have to worry about screaming at your kids. Like, oh my God, don't touch that. So with these lighter fabrics, people were doing lighter airier things, so they were doing lighter fabrics. You don't have to worry. You can kind of like, you know, I know one person was taking like those uh, Clorox wipes and wiping off their white couch and it just came clean, you know? So, I mean, the fabrics are doing that these days, so
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:It really is amazing
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:It is, it's crazy what they can do. Yeah, it really is.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:It's definitely opened up the, uh, possibilities for designers and decorators to do a lot more things and be a lot
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:yeah, it, the rules have changed in a good way with performance fabrics and flat screen TVs.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Mm-hmm.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:two things alone made doing rooms a lot easier. Right Now some people are like, I don't want it over the fireplace. Well, I'd rather have it over the fireplace in this great old big box sitting in the corner, right? So I'll argue with you all day long. I'll put it over the fireplace and I can put some candlesticks and put a pretty frame on it and move on. So I, I'm happy with that. You know, um, when it comes to the performance fabrics, I won't say this is a mistake. This was a learning curve and I, I now say this out loud, when performance fabrics, you know, I call'em AKA Cheeto proof, right? You got the grand baby rubbing Cheeto on it and you can clean it, right? And you truly really can.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:So probably five, six years ago when it was first coming out, I had a client and she was divorced. She had grown daughters, no grandchildren in the family room, and we wanted this very. Uh, aquamarine white, beachy soft vibe to her family room. And so we basically did, uh, a performance fabric. White sofa. Okay? Gorgeous room. Gorgeous room. And you really could rub Cheetos on it and you could spill wine on it, and you could sit there and you put your shoes up and in the feet. What happened was her daughters felt uncomfortable setting in the white sofa because they, they thought they were gonna ruin it, or their friends came by. Her friends came by and said, oh, I can't sit in that. That's why, and it's one of those things that I learned from that is to say, just because you can have truly a white sofa and you can't kill it, are you comfortable living in that white sofa? I, if you ever thought of that or people have had that, but, um, because generally I like a, a lighter color sofa. If you look at that and say, oh, I can't be comfortable in that and sit in it, then I'm not gonna do a white color or cream color sofa, even though you can't kill it because it is had a room can be functional, but it has to be a approachable, you have to, you have to visually be comfortable in it. And so that's just one of the weird things I've ran into that I'm careful about saying to um, people once it's all said and done.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Hmm.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:think more people are now though, since performance fabrics have been out a little bit longer?
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yes, yes, yes.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:in
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Uh, I think that now exactly, it's, it's a few years later. People are more comfortable, but I still do tell that story
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:a great
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:for.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:That's a good point.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:them to, to, for them to see it and go fine with that or, yeah. You know what, it's almost like smacking you, getting your hand smacked because you go sitting on your mom's formal couch in the living room. It's that idea that people feel like they're gonna get in trouble sitting on it. And I want you to make sure you're comfortable in your own house. I'm with you. Yes. Generally most people are okay with it now, but, uh, I do still tell that story.'cause you need to see, oh, I have a cream colored sofa.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Now
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Right.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:of the talk. I have a white sofa with sheets on it for my dogs. That's a performance fabric.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Uh, is because of the.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:It's because of the dog hair. It's not.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:It's the dog hair.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:you know, when my husband and I bought our first, uh, bought, bought our first house to the first, uh, sofa and chair that we got were white and we really wanted camel, but they didn't have white well, and we could get the white quicker is really what it came down to. We're like, yeah, sure. Listen, it did not stop my friends from sch slosh and wine and cheese sauce and all over that. They was sustained. It was disgusting. It was not a, a performance
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:my husband has spilled red wine down the side of it, and I will tell you it beat it up and slid right off. It did not soak into that fabric. Otherwise he would have been in big trouble.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:would've been, he would've been in the doghouse with the
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:E. Exactly.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Um, let's, let's discuss leather,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Uh.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:bit.'cause I know there's a lot of different kinds of leather options out there for furniture. And of course, a lot of people, uh, don't know that the differences or the range or the options, what, what all is out there?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:as far as leathers, I mean. The two biggest difference are protected leathers versus unprotected leathers. And we are seeing more and more people do unprotected leathers, which are more expensive and they're nicer, finer leathers. And you would think it was the opposite. You would think the protected leathers would be more expensive. Um, but they're the opposite. So the difference between the leathers are a protected leather is a nicer, finer leather. It is the leather that they had to do nothing to. It didn't have any scarring, it didn't have any bug bites. That leather was perfect. All they did was add some dye to it. It beautiful leather. So the protected leathers were the leathers that had like scars or bug bites or that kind of stuff. So they had to add some protection to it. They had to do like a painted on finish on it. So those were cheaper leathers because they had imperfections to them, so they, you know, did like the painted finishes onto'em. So most people think that the protected leathers are the better leathers, when actually the unprotected leathers are the better quality leathers. The unprotected leathers are not gonna perform. As well, but as long as you know that about the leather, they have a nicer, softer hand. They feel yummier. They just feel really nice. Exactly. But they are gonna show scratches. But there are ways of getting those scratches out as long as you know how that leather's gonna perform. Then that's great. I mean, you can take a little bit of lotion to get those out or you can, um, I always tell people this story, um, when I first started at Lexington Furniture, my daughter was seven, she is now 33. She took her her fingernail and wrote Devin in the arm of the chair.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:And who was this bitch who was Devin?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, my daughter?
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, it was her name.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:it was her name, shero Devin. I thought I was going to die, so my hands were all sweaty. So I like start rubbing. So that's the thing, you can rub the scratches out with your hands. So I didn't need any lotion'cause my hands were sweaty, so I rubbed it all out. Um. But you can also take, you know, blow dryer, we'll bring the oils back to the surface of the leather. So there are things you can do to get tho those
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:I didn't
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. Low setting with the blow dryer. So, uh, there are things you can do to get those scratches out for the leather, but lawn protected leathers are great. They just feel wonderful. But protected leathers are great too. If you've got a family and you don't wanna have to worry, um, you know, we sell,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:This, this is how I equate it, that unprotected is like having marble in.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Protected is like having granite, right
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:That is.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:marble. There's wrinkles and characters and you can see through it. It's a little bit more work. You have to be a little bit more aware of it. But if you can maintain that and love it, there's nothing like that patina of beautiful, unprotected leather.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yep.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:But now if you a sloppy behind in dog scratching, dumb kid, you better get.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:look perfect all the time, that's when you do a protected leather.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah, exactly.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:a, it's the unprotect and I just love to see the little bit of wear, like, I don't care if it's scratch. Ooh,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Unprotected. Think of it guys. Think of a bomber. Bomber jacket, right?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:say old saddle.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yes. It's just the patina stuff like that. But if you're, like, if you're super rigid and you need everything perfect, don't get unprotected, get protected. Right. And there, and I'm gonna say this, I, I wanna be very fair. I think there are some very well done protected fabrics out there.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh yeah.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't wanna, I don't wanna portray it as if you can't have this, and, and it's not pretty. Ultimately, us in this industry, we see this and we see the nuances of things where maybe if you're just buying one couch or one leather chair in your lifetime, you might not know all these details, but there are good unprotected ones. But if you, if you can convince yourself and you'll listen to us and let us do our job, unprotected all day.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh, absolutely. It just feels wonderful. It almost feels like a fabric. It's soft and cuddly. Where unprotected is, to me is a little colder, but you know, has its good uses as well.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, you know, as somebody, as a young teenager said, unprotected is best.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh my God. Um, okay, so I now want to get your opinion on furniture with USB ports and cup holders
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Do you really now,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:assumed it was. We, the, we went with
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:uh.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:one time to go furniture shopping and, one sister goes, oh my God, there are USB chargers and Catapult. There's a fridge in this thing. This is my dream. And I'm just like sitting there going, is my.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Maybe in your theater room. I don't know. Maybe
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:room it's a different thing,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:exactly.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:I don't, you know, theater room, it could still be sexy and it could be, I'm like, Lord, let's not put a
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Maybe not the fridge. Yeah, maybe not the fridge.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Oh God. Oh, let this be the PSA against USB boards in your furniture. I, I can't. I it's so bad.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. Um, okay.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:things do you, what would you suggest for people to know what's gonna help them going into finding to go shop for furniture? What things are going to help this process easier? Aside from having someone like you that is very knowledgeable, that can help them and guide them? What are the other things that they need to either keep in mind, know about themselves, know the situ? Like what, what's that?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, kind of what you touched on earlier, they need to know their space and their scale before they go out shopping. They need to know like what size furniture they need. They need to know, um, like what's gonna fit them best, really kind of what they're looking for. You know, I have a lot of people that come in there and they're like, they don't know whether they want fabric or leather. They don't know they want reclining or not reclining, you know, they're. The husband wants one thing, the wife wants the other thing. You know, kind of maybe sometimes I feel like I am like a, a counselor with people. Yeah,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:TV show?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:yeah, exactly. So I'm like, okay, why don't we like figure this out and then come back and let me know. So, um, yeah, just, and like I said, know the scale of your furniture, like kind of what you're looking for. If you want something that's, you know. The scale for your room.'cause they'll come in and they'll want something like, oh, I think I can do that, like 112 inch sofa. I'm like, no, I think you can do like an 88
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:You can't, you really can't.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:You know? And I don't think those like 40 inch recliners are gonna fit in there.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:afa if, if measurement, if you got it in this range, you're probably.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. 88. 88 inch sofa and 40 inch depth. 88 by 40 is about the standard inch sofa.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:If you start with that basic, you're, you're, you're gonna be okay. Right? If you didn't do anything else, if you started with that, you'll probably be okay.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Exactly.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:thing is it gets frustrating in my world is now you told me that performance fabrics are now starting to get prints. Uh, and it'll start and it has, it's evolved a lot. Generally, most performance fabrics are just solids. Right.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Gs
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:And that's okay because you get your sofa solid, right? That's how I usually start. And then the chairs are printed typically, right? And then you have a leather chair, typically, that's how you mix it up. You know, there's, there's all kind of parameters, but that's a typical scenario. The problem is though, there are not a lot of performance fabrics that are printed, uh, for chairs, right? So then invariably I'm gonna pick out the, the, the prettiest linen like, uh, print block printed fabric, and I'll lay it over there and, oh, this will look good. And Jennifer will look at and go, Nope. And I said, why? And she said, it's a hundred percent cotton or it's 40% cotton and whatever, rayons, whatever. It's, so tell the audience, if you can't get a performance fabric, what fabric combinations you should look for and what you really should stay away from if you use it based on the idea of using it daily, not just, you know, pretty just daily.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Well, we're gonna look at fabric con content and cleaning codes. So fabric content, something that's 100% polyester is gonna be really good. And a lot of performance fabrics are actually made out of 100% polyester. And we're gonna look at a cleaning code that's gonna be like a W or an sw, which means you can clean it with water or solvent, water based. Those typically are signs of fabrics that you're gonna wear really good, even if it doesn't say performance fabrics. Those are fabrics that I'm gonna suggest for a, a chair or a sofa. If it doesn't say that it's a performance fabric, you can do a blend of like a poly cotton and, and you know, if it's like a thicker woven cotton, I'm gonna be okay with that. But, um, a rayon, if it's. Low content array on is okay, but a high content array on is not gonna hold up very well. You definitely don't wanna do anything with, um, like a, uh, is that not acetate or, um, well, I can't think what the other one's called, but um, yeah, you just don't wanna do like a acrylic. You can do a low content acrylic, but sometimes that'll peel. But polyester is usually your best content as far, or polypropylene is another really good one that's gonna be good. I think it's just probably another name for, um, polyester Fin is another really good one. That means they make carpet, carpet outta fin, so that's gonna wear really good. But really looking for that s or SW cleaning codes are really, or no, sorry, W or SW cleaning codes are really the best thing to be looking for, for a fabric that's gonna perform well.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Useful, very useful. And those codes are on every piece of fabric and it'll tell you a lot of information.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yep.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:the last little piece,
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:codes, are those
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah. Yeah. You can literally Google'em and it'll, it's all written out
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:let's say, that helps, right? So the last little piece of the puzzle, so we wrap up here. What do you see coming down the pipeline? Do you see any major changes or are we kind of in a good place right now? What's kind of what, what's, what's happening? If anything?
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Yeah, I don't really see any big changes in furniture. I mean, it seems like everything.
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:What colors it? Uh, you know, we were Greg Gregory. Well, I wanna know, is there any, any, um, manufacturing, uh, trends that you're seeing? Uh, nothing.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:No,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Standing out
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:I mean, just like you guys would see warmer tones, grays are on their way out. We're seeing a lot more warmer tones. We're seeing more colors, I'm seeing more greens. which is
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:is what popped in my.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:exactly. But um, yeah, I mean as far as the trend and quality of furniture, I think that's all kind of staying the same. I don't see any of that change. And I do see a lot of iron manufacturers on social media that are. Pushing quality of furniture that they are pushing, how they're making the furniture, they're pushing videos of how they're making it and what they're showing their craftsmen on how they're making the furniture, which I think is pretty neat.'cause they had never really kind of shown that before. And I think that's kind of cool. And I don't know if it's'cause there's, uh, just more social media, but I like the fact that they're showing how they're actually making the furniture and showing the craftsmen and,
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:thing that popped my head is they might be losing that younger audience to the, and they gotta show people, hey, because we might not, you might have a hard time getting a a 28, 30 2-year-old in your anymore, right? As opposed to that. The norm. Now it's like, I gotta make you understand there is a reason to come to see Jennifer'cause this is what we do. It might be as simple as putting it out there to say, look, you are getting what you pay for if, if you can pay for it and there,
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:of Wayfair and all that just to order it online and I'll buy me a new one in a, in a few years. So yeah, there is probably that the social media
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:which we all cringe when we shake our head when we do that.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:I
dwayne_2_07-10-2025_102206:Again, it's great for a bedroom chair, but not for something you use every day.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:that. Absolutely. I Exactly.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jennifer, thank you so much for joining us
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Thank you for having me, guys. I appreciate it.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:um, had lots of fun.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:It was, I did a little bit. It was, it was, I enjoyed it. Thank you.
jeremy-host726_2_07-10-2025_102206:Thanks for joining us today. We'll be back next Wednesday with a new podcast. If you have not downloaded our House Floral mobile shopping app, please do. We have lots of new fun things getting ready to pop out and pop on. And, until then, we will see you next week. All right. Thanks guys. Bye.
jennifer_2_07-10-2025_102206:Bye
