S3:E6 Celebrating Mommas!

 Hey, guys. Welcome back to the podcast, and Happy Mother's Day week to all the mothers out there. Today, we are talking about the women who raised us, influenced us, and helped make us who we are today, and whether that was intentional or by accident. And whether your mom is someone you were born to, grew up with, or found along the way, this episode is for you. We are sharing stories, a few laughs, and maybe some insight into why we all turned out the way we did. And listen, if it ever seems like we're doing things a little differently, just know we all discovered that we all came from some interesting and strong stock. And you know that saying, "Mom's always right"? Well, it has definitely been proven that what Mom said comes back to haunt us. 

Jeremy's Mom. (his favorite picture of her. This hung in his grandparent's house for as long as he can remember, and reminds him both of them and his mom)

Stuart's Mom.

Dwayne's Mom.

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0:00

Hey, guys. Welcome back to the podcast, and Happy Mother's Day week to all the mothers out there. Today, we are talking about the women who raised us, influenced us, and helped make us who we are today, and whether that was intentional or by accident. And whether your mom is someone you were born to, grew up with, or found along the way, this episode is for you. We are sharing stories, a few laughs, and maybe some insight into why we all turned out the way we did. And listen, if it ever seems like we're doing things a little differently, just know we all discovered that we all came from some interesting and strong stock. And you know that saying,"Mom's always right"? Well, it has definitely been proven that what Mom said comes back to haunt us. Let's get to it

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 1:50

​Stuart, how was your morning Miss Allie to uh, school today? Was it a good hair day?

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 1:57

Uh, most days are good hair days for her at school because I pull that

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 2:04

you can't say that about yourself, can you?

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 2:05

bun.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 2:07

That. Right. There you go. You got it figured out.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 2:13

it all pretty and down and flowy when she first started school, and she came back looking like she had been through a tornado and a hair dryer because, you know, it just gets bigger as she sweats and poofy. So every morning she's, she asks for a high and tight bun, please, is what she says. Mm-hmm.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 2:34

She got a lot of hair.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 2:36

hair. Yeah, I know. So, so yeah. That's pretty good

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 2:41

How about fixing your hair this morning, wan? How did it go?

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 2:43

yeah. How'd that go?

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 2:45

Well, I don't have hair for those, um, uh, listening audience that the sexy, bald man is, um, hair follicle challenged. I did see an ad on one of the, uh, social media. Don't Go bald, take a pill. And I'm thinking, is it too late for me? Can I go back?

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 3:02

It's too late.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 3:03

It's too late. Mm-hmm.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 3:05

Although, you know, yesterday on, I think it was on TikTok, there was this guy and he was like fixing his hair and listen, uh, if I can find it, I'll share it'cause oh my God. But it, there was nothing there and he pulled it forward and he put some like dye in it and then like he brushed it and it made it kind of look like there was something there. Now who, God only knows what it looks like in real part in real life, but I'm like, God, that's a lot of work. Just shave it.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 3:28

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 3:30

And I know I can say that because I have a head full of hair. Like it's it, you know, at this moment that's not,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 3:34

Eh,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 3:35

but I, you know,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 3:36

good hair.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 3:37

just do it. I, yeah, it's a lot.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 3:41

No, I'm with you. My, you know, said this before. My sweet daddy has been bald ever since I've ever known him. I, I kind of think I lost my hair a little l later, us in life, USH. Um, but he's like, what you gonna do when you, when, when you gonna lose all your hair? And I'm like, shave it and move on. Right. And that's just what you do.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:03

I

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 4:03

There's a

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:04

many other options there are.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:05

Dwayne, you

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 4:07

A bad toupee.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:08

of 2009.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 4:11

Well, that's about 30 though. We Right? 35, somewhere in that range.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:15

No.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:17

I.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 4:17

No. Well, Chloe was, I know I have the picture. I have hair Ush and Chloe is a 2-year-old, 3-year-old. 23. Right. And I'm 57, so yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:28

yeah. Okay. Well, I guess you were, yeah, I didn't know. You know, this is one of the things where you can't.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 4:33

have. That's the only reference I have. The reason I really don't care, and I couldn't tell you, but that's the only, only reason I know is because of that one picture. Like, oh, I could never remember when I lost it. So there you go.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:45

You know, to me you all have always been the same age. It's like one of those things, like, so like you've always been, not that I thought you were always 57, um, or however old you are, but, um, like,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 4:55

Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 4:56

I, can't remember like when we started working together, how old I thought you all were. I mean, I knew you were older than me, but that's all, you know, that's all I got, I got a handle on. So.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:03

speaking of

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:04

of age,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:05

it's weird. It's weird that we're talking about this right now because you

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:08

because you're

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:08

our topic today,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:10

mm-hmm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:11

which is gonna be some Mother's Day things. Last night I was sitting, reflecting and I thought, I'm the same age now as when my mom died. And I'm one year younger when my dad bought Tara.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:28

Hmm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:29

Isn't that weird? Because I

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 5:32

His perspective.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:34

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 5:35

Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:35

was like, oh, my dad bought it in his seventies. No, bought it in his fifties, you know? But I didn't think about it, you know, just like you

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:44

Like you said.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:45

they've al always the same age to me, so.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:48

Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 5:49

Yeah. Hmm. Interesting.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 5:51

Well, the one thing I can say, or there's a common thread for your dad, you, you too have in your age range you bought your own personal Tara that you have working on. So there is a common thread there.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:04

and that's what made me start thinking. I was like,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 6:06

Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:07

started his dream at that age, and that's what I'm gonna do. That's

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 6:11

Yeah. Okay.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:12

so weird.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 6:12

Love it. Oh, just also for listen to audiences, stupid cat. Jeremy's is back.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:17

jumped up on that microphone. That's what that,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:21

That's what,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:22

was.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:25

oh, so I saw, uh, we saw one of our friends last week, uh, at the end of last week and she's like, I love how all the videos you've posted from your podcast lately have Mabel in'em. I'm like, well. You know she's bad.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 6:37

Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:40

Well, I told Stuart before you got on that, Jeremy's also working from home today, so I was hoping that she would hang out with him. Turns out.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 6:48

She knows who she can be bad with. Right.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:52

Whatever.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 6:53

You are

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:54

oh God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, speaking of parents,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 6:58

Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 6:59

we were gonna discuss today was, you know, mama's Mama's Day. Mother's Day is here. Whether you have a mother that you celebrate or an aunt or a person that's like a mother. All of us have somebody that's in their lives that, you know, is a specialist served role. And we thought we would honor some of them today and figure out how they, uh, affected us and what we do today I think. Is that, is that right Dwayne? That, that, that was your

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 7:22

right.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 7:22

running I to go.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 7:23

No, it's right. It's right. Well, and the thing is, I have this. Kind of tick when you just said, oh yeah, let's do that idea. I thought, oh my God, I wanna hear the same stupid thing from Stuart about it.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 7:37

Dad

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 7:37

And it's like, yeah, like the first five minutes I've met him 20,000 years ago he's like, yeah, my mom's dead. And I'm like, okay, now let's start with your mama.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 7:53

who's.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 7:54

don't know much about your,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 7:56

Mine.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 7:57

start with your mom.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 7:58

Okay.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 7:59

You all met mine, so you know what I'm dealing with,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:02

Mm-hmm. Monkeys,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 8:03

Uhhuh.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:03

everybody

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:04

everybody knows.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:04

dealing with.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:05

Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:06

Uhhuh. Okay? Yes.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 8:08

see me? Are you calling me a mini? Me? Uh, so with your mom. Because she passed before e either of us knew her and it was, uh, I just don't know much about her in a way. Uh, you've painted her as, I'll say it this way, a frosty, petite little thing that loves her some furs and had a good old time. Right. Give us the rest of what, uh, your sweet Mama was about.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:38

Uh, God. Well, I

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:41

well,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:41

you

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:41

what you said

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:42

is all

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:42

was all true.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:43

mean, that's just who she is. So

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:45

So like of all the people that you all know.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:47

associate with now in my life,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 8:50

let me stop you there.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:51

yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 8:51

stop. Lemme stop you there. You said who she is that caught my attention. didn't say who she was.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 8:59

She still

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 9:00

Who she see. Okay. I, I want to hear. Well,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:04

yeah,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 9:04

I'm, I'm, I'm not being silly. I really

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:07

No, I don't.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 9:07

really lost anybody really very close. of this can be a, a delve into how you, you navigate a loss of somebody that's so important. So you her in a present tense, not a past tense. Is that, is that some She's in your world

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:25

I think it goes back and forth,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:27

I

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 9:27

okay.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:27

back and forth, especially with,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:30

with,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:31

well let me

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:32

let me finish that.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:33

first. Uh,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 9:34

Truck.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:34

because you all

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:35

You all know

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:36

kind of my friend group and who I hang around with and all that other stuff,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 9:40

Yep.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:40

the only person

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:42

in

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:43

that.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:43

that ever met her was Uncle Pete.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:47

Really

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:48

Yeah. James I think

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:50

I think

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:52

but Uncle

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:53

the uncle Pete.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:54

knew her,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:55

Hmm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:55

so

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:56

So it's like he,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 9:57

about it. And that's somebody that I can reminisce with. Um, but she, you could make me cry.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 10:06

That's okay.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:07

it's not,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 10:09

Why? No? Why is it

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:10

well.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 10:11

Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:11

It is. Well, and. M and my daughter, Allie, well we named her Allen, A-L-L-Y-N because that was my mom's middle name. So that's how she got her name. So, and if I

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:27

I would've

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:28

mom

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 10:28

you certainly got you a little frosty one in that one too.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:31

I was gonna say. If I would've known my, I would've known

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:34

known.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:35

as a small child. I'm living with her now because there's

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:41

Was so many things.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:42

that my mom did. Which is crazy. Um, but no,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:46

but no, she, my mom liked to

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:49

especially when I had friends over.'cause she always tried to be like this mean person, but she really wasn't mean. And she'd like say something and she'd look at me and wink, like, see how,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 10:59

how you see how

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:00

friends

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:00

friends ran.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:01

You know, of those type things. And, um,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 11:05

You know you don't like that about me. I call that a pot stir

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:09

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 11:09

drive you crazy. But yeah, somehow you do like it.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:11

Well, I

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:12

Well, I.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:12

it's like, damn it, you know?'cause that's what I grew up with, you know? Um, she loved to go shopping. liked nice things. She liked to torment my father about, said nice things, you know, one, uh.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 11:30

is, I would say,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:33

He, uh, he was

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 11:36

when it came to.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:37

E except, oh my God. Those goddamn tools. No, he was tight. Uh, one super

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:44

Funny.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 11:45

about mom, uh, just going to get what she wants'cause that's what she did. Um, dad came home from work and mom was already home. He pulled in the garage and came inside and was like, Judy, what the hell is that in the garage? She's like, what? She's like, it's a car. that's

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:02

That's the car you left morning.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:05

She went, well, it had a dent on it. He's like,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:07

There's

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:08

wrong with your

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:08

nothing with your car,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:09

She goes, well, I like this blue one, went and traded her car in

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 12:14

Oh my God.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:15

her another

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 12:16

That's usually divorce worthy, uh,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:18

know

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 12:18

right? Address is a different story.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:20

Cadillac.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 12:20

a new car. Oh my gosh.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:22

and she's like, oh

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:23

Oh, bill, you gotta drive me down there because you

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:25

all the papers.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:25

have

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 12:27

Oh, no. So that's hilarious. I can only imagine. He cringed and cringed and cringed.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:36

he did, but he did exactly what

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:37

he loved her.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:38

you, mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 12:39

Oh, love it, love it, love it. Good answer. Good answer.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:42

Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:42

Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:43

Yeah. Uh,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:44

was

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:44

there was some,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 12:45

random questions since we're talking about my mom. Um, I. Thing. You know, one of the questions posed was, you know, just like my mom moments, like, how do you sound like your mom now? And, and I can hear myself anytime somebody walks in the house, I'm like, you gotta take your hat off before you come in,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:02

because that was a rule.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:03

you could not wear a hat in the house. Period.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:06

Hmm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:06

No matter. No matter, who you

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:08

no matter who.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:08

you had to take your hat off as soon as you got in the house because she thought it

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:11

So that feels like a very southern proper thing. Where was she originally from?

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:16

Eastern Kentucky.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:18

Random. Okay. Okay. Okay,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:21

Pikeville, she grew up in Pikeville,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:23

Okay. I

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:23

I think it was a very,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:24

know where she was, her.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:25

I think it, it is kind of like one of those like, uh, you know, older respect things, right?

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:31

yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:32

don't,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:32

yeah, yeah,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:33

I didn't wear hats when I was young, so I, I never experienced that, so I don't know.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:36

And you should never wear a

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:37

We

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:38

Don't cover that.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:38

used to be

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:39

had to

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:39

had take his shoes off the front. Mm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:42

But

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:43

But now that I realize that, I think,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:45

of us dirty kids needed to do that.'cause I never saw adults walk around without shoes on. So I'm like, Hmm, I think

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:53

I think that was pointed at. Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:55

Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:56

Um,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 13:57

yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 13:58

What? I don't know what other questions you got.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 14:01

well.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 14:01

how we've got this set up is you've, you painted a picture of your mom. Let's do it this way. You painted a general picture of your mom. Now Jeremy, paint a general picture of your mom.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 14:12

Well. I think the clearest picture you can probably get of my mom is, I'm not gonna do that. I was gonna say by, by me, but like as far as like examining me.'cause I am like a, a copy, but I don't wanna do that because I feel like that's diminutive of my mom. Um, she is one of the most caring as far as she wants to make sure you're okay persons I've ever met. Now I will argue that she's that to a fault. because she can't watch the news programs because she just, you know, more worries herself and mourns herself to death every night when she watches, uh, whatever she watches. But she was. Um, a or she is, she's not was she is? Well, she was a, she was a single child. She had, she did have a sister. Si the, the sister died, uh, choking on a peanut when they were little. So there was a lot of trauma, uh, when they were very young. I think mom was. Five, I think. I think when it happened. Um, and so, you know,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 15:12

And how old was her sister when she passed?

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 15:13

three, three,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 15:15

so

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 15:15

three. Yeah. very

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 15:16

awful.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 15:17

much younger. Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 15:18

Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 15:18

awful, And it was something that my grandparents, uh. Well, my mom says that she doesn't think that they ever recovered. I, I, I can understand that. Um, but they kind of recovered together, so they would talk about her, her name was Charlotte June. And so my mom named my sister Charlotte, after her. Um, and, so when she grew up, she had that trauma, right? That, that kind of major loss. And then. Fast forward a little bit. Then my grand, my grandfather becomes a preacher. My mom, my grandmother's working in a factory, and then they become the preacher and the preacher's wife. And, uh, my mom always had a very s. This is how I kinda like to see her now is this sense of, presence or purpose. And I kind of like point to like the Queen of England. Like, I dunno if you, if, if you watched the Crown, the Queen always had this sense of duty. That's the word I should use. Sense of duty. Like she kind lost herself in that. And I, I feel looking at my mom that. As she grew up, she had a sense of duty. She was the preacher's kid. She was, the child that was survived, right? That she had to do all these things

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 16:27

Mm-hmm.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 16:28

and she was responsible and beautiful and she was the homecoming queen. And, um, you know, all of those things. But I don't think that she ever got to be a kid. And, and I know that as a child, like she never wanted to play games with us. As far as like board games, because she didn't play games when she was little. She didn't know how to play. She had no sense of creativity or real huge imagination. And that, that's still to someday. I don't want make mom sound like she's drab or anything like that, but that's just, you know, that's just kinda how she is and, um,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 17:02

That wasn't the, was equipped.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 17:04

correct, correct. And never, and probably never had a chance to really foster, even if they were there.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 17:10

Well,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 17:10

And that's.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 17:11

Right.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 17:11

focused on growing up.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 17:13

Yeah. Yeah. And of course, you know, they lived on a farm and, and you know, there was lot of responsibilities there. And um, and so that's one of the things I think with me, she's always, when she saw that there was a creative part there, she immediately wanted to foster it. And I always wonder like, that's probably a conversation I should have with her. Like, is that something that she wished she had in her life? Um, so, um, but you know, I think her. Tremendously.'cause you know, now listen, when she found out I was gay, we will just say that there was some trauma that happened. Um, but, you know, different generation, different understanding what they were, they were told what that meant, you know, and, and it was all happening in dark alleys and horrible areas and she just knew what they had heard. Right.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 17:59

And you do what with who?

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 18:04

Um, but you know, she, she loves my husband and, um. Come a long way. When, when she originally found out she's, she told me, she's like, you're never can tell about dad and you can't tell grandparents'cause they'll kill him.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 18:20

My Lord.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 18:21

You know, that was a little bit of a trauma for me when I was 16. But, you know,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 18:25

I can

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 18:25

we all, yeah, we, we, we, you all know our entire family's all good. We, you know, it's all that. But, um, but. That I think is, um, speaks to her compassion. That's one of the things I think I get from her is her compassion and empathy, and again, to a fault, um, for me. Um, but I've never seen someone so concerned about, so any, everybody else, so,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 18:53

Right.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 18:54

yeah. Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 18:55

Oh yeah, I get, and I get what you're saying, that she, uh, it's almost almost celebrity dom, right? That there's a, there's a, a spotlight on you and you have to do as expected or what is seem to be appropriate, and then therefore you don't get to be you. So that in a way it's a little sadness in that, um, you are always performing for somebody else.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 19:19

Yeah. And, and similarly, that's also how my grandmother was when she was the, uh, a preacher's wife. Um,'cause I, I interviewed her once, uh, for something for school.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 19:30

yet they have you

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 19:32

I know.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 19:32

prime example of the family. You could give two shits,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 19:35

Two shits. Yeah, two shits.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 19:37

No, not performative at all, right?

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 19:39

no. Um, but so granny felt also the same thing.'cause she was like, everybody was always looking at you like in the church and, and, and, you know, expecting, you know, whatever they wanted to expect, you know, and,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 19:52

Like, like, like rays of light emanating from your hands as a savior, that's just not who the

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 19:59

No. No.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 20:01

No.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:01

Know, and my mom and dad, they were married. I don't, I don't know when they got married right out of high school, or soon after they were married for a little while. Then they divorced. And I mean, that was a big. You know, back when that was, you know, a big to-do. And, you know, listen, here's the truth. I, I've never discussed this with my mom. My dad's passed away, but both of them were beautiful people and I think they just needed a whore around.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 20:25

My God. Oh my God.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:27

could, it could be true. It could

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:29

And, you

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:30

know,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:30

know, I,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:31

Yeah.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:31

you know, it's a long time ago, none of my business. And, and then they got back together and then, you know, here I am. So, and then they got married again. So.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 20:38

of a, I don't wanna know kind of thing. I just don't

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:41

no, it doesn't matter. I mean, they were both beautiful people. They, they both were, you know, I've got a painting of mom when she was a, a senior in high school, and she's just, you know, ready. I'll actually, I'll take a picture of it and

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:53

and.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 20:53

I'll put it down on the show notes of her when she was younger so people can see. She's just, you know, long hair and just Mm mm mm oh.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:00

then I'll

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 21:01

beauty queen.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:01

favorite picture of my mother

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:03

Yes, all of us will.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:05

She was 17

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:06

17. Okay,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:07

and

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:08

we'll post our mamas down, down in the show notes.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:10

it is me on days that I'm saying. No, that's all I got to say.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 21:19

That's most days, but that's okay.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:21

Well, Dwayne, tell us about your mama and Lord. Help us all.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 21:24

the first thing that, gave me a little, panic attack is, uh, sharing photos. I'm gonna have to dig a little because mom, was so impoverished and they, their home was in a flood zone, so there were very few pictures and what pictures they had were destroyed. So I'm gonna have to literally, uh, I'll find one, but there's not a lot of pictures. When she was young. So that's one thing to, to paint right there. So the, the, the story, um, I guess I always, uh, land on is mom, um. A survivor. She's

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 21:57

She says.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 21:58

in that she uh, is the oldest of 12 children that grew up of extreme poverty and, an alcoholic father who was abusive to the mother, not to the kids, but to the mother. Uh, and. Uh, the stories of having the apples off the apple tree in, uh, a neighbor's yard because they didn't have food to eat, right? So it goes back to why I eat food way past's prime, and it's four days later in the, in the refrigerator. I can't throw it away because I hear the stories of hunger, right? I can't waste food. And that sticks with you when you know that you have somebody in your world that literally went to bed hungry, many, many, many, many nights. And then the other story is, I asked her once when I was an adult, uh, why am I an only child? And she said, um, because of that hunger, I never wanted to ha I didn't wanna be responsible for children and feel as if I couldn't make sure that they were fed. And, you know, those, those things stick with you. And that makes me who I am is because of

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 23:08

a person.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 23:09

and her. I, I really think that's trauma at the end of the day,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 23:12

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 23:12

it's said and done, that's, that's, that's pretty rough when it's said and done. So fast

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 23:19

forward.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 23:20

you know, you, she took all those things and. You know, moved to Chicago when she was 18 and worked there for years and came back to Eastern Kentucky and got a college education that took her seven years to get while she was still working in the grocery store. I just keep coming back to that's that tenacity that, not take no for an answer that drives you all crazy.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 23:46

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 23:47

That I'm right as Jeremy rolls his eyes, uh, that, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna figure it out. I'm gonna make it happen. Somehow comes from that environment, that comes from that. I'll figure it out. I'll make it happen somehow. Right? And that, that's, that's, that's what I gained from life experience that made me who I am is because of her story like that.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:12

No, I can imagine. Can you imagine being the, the oldest child and then seeing the struggle 11 times after you, like trying to make sure everybody, I mean, I totally get that, like holding onto that concern.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:21

Right.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:22

I do wanna point out the fact that you kind of disregarded the fact that. You were the first one and they probably couldn't handle a second one. Did you ever think what you were like as a,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 24:36

Well, she didn't say that, so we're not gonna put that out there. that's okay. That that's on you, how you perceive it to be.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:44

Unlike I was told several times that

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:47

was supposed

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:47

supposed to be the

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:48

the second child.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:49

wanted four. I. I am the second child and the last one, so

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:57

Oh, okay.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 24:58

Hmm.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 24:59

Shane, your brother's older. I, I don't wanna, yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 25:02

well, he, but because I think Stuart is more, more mature and kind of feels like it's more managed where the other one not so much. So what, what the part of the illusion is, uh, that with Stuart is, uh, he had to drink, was it goat milk? You couldn't drink milk. Milk. Right.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 25:18

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 25:19

milk.'cause I, I can only imagine, you

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 25:21

Could

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 25:21

in 1947 trying to throw goat milk on the farm for you.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 25:25

Oh hell, there was like probably a goat across the street. Yeah. Come on.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 25:31

Okay, so you had some very pointed questions, Jeremy, that you wanted to us to, uh, talk about, about our parents or moms rather.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 25:41

Well, really, they were just No, well they were just, they were just kind of like prompts that we could discuss, uh, uh, just different ways. So, um, we could do, you know, the first time that you saw your mom. As more than just your mother or you saw her more as a human. And I, I remember for me it was after my grandmother passed away and we were having a, a conversation. It was quite some time after, and I realized that, you know, granny was always granny to me, right? Like that was just that, that's who she was. Well, it was her mother, and just as my mom and I have not always had a. Tip to tip top, you know, 110%, uh, relationship. Neither did they. And I never even imagined that. And then I had to realize that my mom was her own person. And that was when I realized like, oh yeah, you, you've had to, uh, discover who you are in this mess too. And the, the whole lie that adults, you know, know what's going on and everything's under control'cause the adults are there. That is bullshit. We are all struggling just trying to get through the day.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 26:49

Mm-hmm.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 26:51

Mm-hmm. So for me that's,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 26:53

for Stuart.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 26:54

yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 26:56

Well, sure. Uh, I. When I

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 26:59

When I first saw

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 27:00

real person and a human was

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 27:04

was not when I was.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 27:05

to at all, because I lived here and you know, my parents lived in Illinois and I was driving home to go visit. I hadn't been home in a while, and mom calls me, she goes, where are you? I told her, I was like, oh, I'm on Knoxville. Not in Knoxville, but on Knoxville. It's the street. She goes, oh, have you passed Kroger yet? I said, no. She goes, well stop at Kroger'cause we need some milk. I said, okay. I said, do you need anything else?'cause you know it was like 10 minutes from their house where they lived at that time. She goes, no, but just when you get here, don't be alarmed'cause I don't have any hair. I said, what? She goes, I'll just tell you when we get here.'cause she had been in chemo for six months and I had no clue.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 27:47

Oh Mercy.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 27:50

So that's

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 27:52

that a stab to you? Did you go, oh God, what have I done? Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 27:55

yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, and then

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 27:58

and then I.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:00

when I left, that was gonna be the last time I'd be at that house.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 28:04

Get out.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:05

And it was, I, well, I went back to that house for the funeral, And I got, I was mad at both of my parents for. Many months because when I left that time, I said, do not call

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:18

Call.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:18

at four o'clock in the morning to tell me mom's in the hospital. I said, don't do it. You need to respect me a little bit more than that. like, okay, it's fine. So I got a

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:30

Call

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:31

eight

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:31

eight.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:31

morning, one morning, Hey, uh, you might want to come up here. Your mom's in the hospital. I was like, I asked you not to do that. He's like, it's not four o'clock.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:43

I can hear, hear, bill. I waited. I waited.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:45

till you woke up. So

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 28:51

Wow. Wow. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That's a tough one.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 28:54

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 28:55

it starts to answer a little bit of your struggle with your passing. It is never early when or easy when you lose a parent early. And it's never easy when you lose a, a parent when they're young. But that little nugget, I feel like I, I hope you've worked through that, but because you don't. Guilt in that you just don't. Right.'cause you were a kid living your life, uh, and uh, right.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:25

that's ultimately what they both,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:27

you know, that's

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:29

that's what dad reassured,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:31

couldn't talk

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 29:32

Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:32

so.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:33

so.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:33

He's like, she knew you were living your life and we

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 29:37

Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:37

live your life and not worry about it. I said, well,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:40

Mm-hmm hmm.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 29:41

it, it's, it's one of those things that doesn't quite seem fair,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:43

no,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 29:45

right. But it, that's

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:46

Which is why you all know, because you knew, you both knew my dad.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:50

And then

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:50

And then when he got sick,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:52

like,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:52

I'm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:52

my dad's today, I won't be in because I didn't

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:55

Didn't take that.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:56

before.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 29:58

Mm-hmm. Oh, you weren't given that opportunity.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 30:00

given it. That's,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:01

That's, yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:02

true.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 30:03

that's what we both, we both had the same thought at the same time. You weren't given that opportunity. Right. If you don't, you can't fix something if you don't know to fix something.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:10

Correct.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:11

You know.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 30:11

every day we just get, go and go and go. But if you're not aware of, you can't step, step back and be part of something. So I, again, I'll say that out loud. I hope you can let that one go. I hope you have let it go. And if you haven't, from my perspective, let it go. Let it go. Let it go.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:26

dead

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 30:29

Oh,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:30

know.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:30

and, and they remind me every now and then, and it's okay. It's okay.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 30:35

You know, um, my mom this similarly, but not to the, to the, the extreme that you had, Stuart, when my dad had, multiple myeloma and in the middle of him getting treatment, then my mom got, uterine cancer. Uh, went through head surgery, went through treatment, everything was fine. Um, and then fast forward, then she found out it came back. And, after having gone through the first part of it., Thinking everything was okay. Again, it was like the, you know, we need to know these things. Like as kids, like my sister and I like, you know, keep us informed. Don't keep us in the dark. Right. Um, especially like when my dad was, when he first started getting sick.'cause that was the first person in our fa in our family to really like, treat, handle some kind of illness like this. And so we're at my grandmother's house on a Sunday and we're eating, and you know, everybody would eat and then get up and go sit down and we're sitting there and, mom, mom goes, well, hold up before you get up. I got something I gotta tell you. And I'm like, okay. And she's like, my cancer's back. And um, of course, you know, my grandmother didn't know. I didn't know. But then what I found out was my sister did know. Because I guess my sister had gone with my mom on maybe that Friday on that, that treatment, and then my mom told her not to tell me that she wanted to tell me in person. I was so mad that Sunday when I found this out and I was like, I'm not mad that it's back. I'm upset that it's back, but we'll handle that as it is. What I'm mad about is that you all decided on yourselves to take this and bear the whole weight of it on your shoulders and not let me take some of it. And I looked at Whitney, I was like, you've known since my sister. I was like, you've known since Friday. She's like, yeah. And I was like, you, you know, tell me. And that's, that's something I've learned in my, my family, my husband's family, of course. Same with you.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:23

her

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:23

her know.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:23

that she was gonna tell you? Did

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:25

Yeah. Yes. But still like that

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:27

perspective. I

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:28

it,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:29

It's her story to tell you, and she wanted to, she wanted. to come from her and her perspective again.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:36

me. She could've called, but, so here, here's ultimately.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:39

later,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:40

Well, it is not fast enough for me. I'm impatient bitch.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:42

well,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:43

Um,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:44

It's not, this is not your story. It's her story.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:46

like we hadn't, we hadn't been dealing with it before. You know what I mean? Like it was so, um, but

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:52

I

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:52

also had,

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 32:52

differently.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 32:53

well, so, okay, so what I'm asking our listeners from our story is that when you're in a situation like this, like with Stuart. I understand that you're trying, you're, you're trying to, to handle it and I guess there's not a right answer or right way to do it, but give people the opportunity, give them the chance to also,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:15

no,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:16

to bear some on their shoulders. That's what I was,'cause that's why I was like, I could have helped not, not helped. I could have, I could have also been part of this and I was kept from it and that bo and that really bothered me. Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 33:26

I get that part. I get that part.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:27

think

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:28

And I think it's different.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:30

when you have a sibling, because brother knew the entire time that my

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:35

Oh Lord,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:36

for

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 33:37

Yeah.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:38

A year.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:40

Oh my God.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:41

A year.'cause he

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:43

Because he lived, you know,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:44

he lived 15 miles from him and he knew

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:48

everything.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:49

Didn't say one word. Not one.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 33:53

Yeah, that one. That was a hard, that's a hard, that was a hard pill to swallow on that one.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 33:57

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 33:58

Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I get that.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:00

I also know that

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 34:00

not so much here.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:02

there's different kinds of people. Um, I'm one of those, when something happens, you round up all the, the wagons, right? Like, you work, you wound up every, you get everybody, right. Um, and I know there's other people that don't want that. They want to just be by themselves. Right. Or they just wanna handle it on their own. And, and I do try to respect that. I do.'cause I understand, right. But I guess if it's, I guess if it's like me, if it's my, my close tight knit. Like in my family, I guess it's, I, I don't know, but God's faith, sorry, I didn't mean to bring it down,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:29

I That's so

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 34:31

It's not, nobody's you down though, it's just.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:33

you round up the

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:35

round up the wagon.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:35

already in a line and I distribute them to who I want them.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:40

Well, similarly, I think we have our, we have our selected wagons, right? I

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 34:46

Yeah,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:46

Ryan. So, because listen, there's some wagons I don't need in this little, this little village. Get the hell out.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:51

wheel broke.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:52

Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:53

Uh, their, their horse

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 34:55

bus.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:55

eaten.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:56

Uhuh.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:56

over there.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:57

No,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:58

there.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 34:58

you ain't been here the whole damn time. Don't be, don't be coming now.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 35:01

we got, we shut up. We got close to wrapping up. So you find one more question that you want because this has been a great conversation. I've loved this one. We find one more question that you posed us and let's let's wrap it up with one more question that you stands out to you.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 35:14

Well name something. Your mom was actually right about that you didn't know till later. Lightner.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 35:18

Okay.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 35:19

you

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 35:19

Ghost.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 35:20

it will give you everything back. You gave them. She was

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 35:28

She, well, my grandmother and my mom both said something along these lines of be, be surround yourself with good people, be good to them, and good things will happen. And so I've always tried to do that, but for my mom, most of all it's, uh, be kind. Be kind. And so actually the, I know you can't see, but my, the shirt I have on today says Kentucky is kindness. And, I, I'll never forget as a, as a kid, she, I. We, we needed babysitters. And, um, she, you know, she worked in the school system, so she was there. We had to work later than when we got home. And so she hired this girl from up the street and they were from an incredibly poor family. I mean, dirt floor. Uh, the father ran the saw mill. And, of course, as a kid, I didn't get it. I, I was like, why are you bringing this girl into our house? Who only wants to watch the little house on the prairie? Um. Um, because I wanted to watch other things. And, but what I got was that she was trying to give that girl a chance, trying to, even if it was, you know,$5, whatever she was giving her to, to watch us for the little time that she was, that she was trying to be kind and see other people where they were. And so

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 36:35

Sure.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 36:36

that's, she was right. And uh, so now I try to live my life by that for sure.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 36:40

No,

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 36:40

No, I get it.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 36:42

no. That's beautiful. It's beautiful. mom kind of instilled in me, trust your instinct, listen to your voice. And I always say to people, I have voices in my head. Well, part of that joke is sometimes we'll look at you and go, oh God, what's that mean? But part of those voices in my head mean. know, you always have something in the back of you that tells you to do something or don't do something or trust your instinct. And she always got me to, um, understand that most of the time, you know what the right answer is, right? It's, it's there or what you should or shouldn't do, just listen to it, right?

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 37:17

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 37:17

Just whatever your first instinct is, usually is the the right answer on. Life, money, relationship, whatever it is, that first initial reaction is And so I even say I use this, um, in design in that will say, well, if you need to think about it, what, what I need to do here? I'm like. No, not really. I know about 80% of what needs to be done in the first three minutes of it. You know, it's there. Right. And let's just do it. I don't, I don't want to think about it too much. I know basically what's right and what's wrong. It's a yes, it's a no. I've always said I'm not a kind of woo woo person right in the middle. And it's like, it's a yes or a no. Let's move on. Right? And that's part of it because there's a voice instinct. You just listen to that, and that's what I got from her is just trust your instinct, trust your voice, whatever the voices are. Right?

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 38:11

I just wonder which one you pick when they're speaking to you,

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 38:14

well, uh, sometimes he's got a combination.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 38:16

because God knows it ain't ours.

dwayne_1_04-30-2026_090120 38:20

Well, you know.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 38:21

Well. Whoever is in your life that you cherish and appreciate, whatever role they are, whatever actual relationship they are to you, whether it's blood related or friend related or chosen related, we hope that you get to celebrate them a little bit this Sunday. And, send a little love their way. Know that we're sending it to all of the wonderful women out there that make our lives so much better. And until next week, we will see you right here. Bye guys.

stuart_1_04-30-2026_090121 38:47

Bye.

jeremy-host477_1_04-30-2026_090121 38:47

Bye.