From Confused to Clear: How this Soul Gift Quiz Changed My Life

Ready to explore the magic of drum journeying, the power of mentorship, and the art of holding space for deep transformation? 

In this episode of the Gutsy Chick podcast, I’m chatting with the incredible Mellissa Seaman—intuitive coach, retreat leader, and all-around wisdom keeper. We’re diving into her Soul Gift Quiz and the five soul archetypes that can help you discover your true purpose and unlock your unique magic. 

In this Episode:  

00:00 Introduction to Gutsy Chick Podcast 

02:50 Exploring Soul Gift Archetypes 

06:03 The Journey of Self-Discovery 

08:48 Drum Journeying and Its Impact 

11:57 The Power of Holding Space 

14:51 Understanding Different Archetypes in Drum Journeying 

Here’s how to connect with Mellissa Seaman: 

Website: www.ChannelYourGenius.com 

Soul Gift Quiz: www.soulgiftquiz.com 

Drum Journey Retreat: https://channelyourgenius.com/retreat-sales-page-2025/ 

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Take the Gutsy Chick Quiz to find out how your athletic mindset might be holding you back from healing your chronic health issue: https://gutsychickquiz.com

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Mellissa Seaman
• 2:50 Exploring Soul Gift Archetypes
• 6:03 The Journey of Self-Discovery
• 8:48 Drum Journeying and Its Impact
• 11:57 The Power of Holding Space
• 14:51 Understanding Different Archetypes in Drum Journeying

Transcript

0:01

Melissa Seaman. Oh my God. I'm so excited to have you on the Gutsy Chick podcast. Thank you. Chicks unite! Heck yeah, well okay, so I blame you for having the Gutsy Chicks branding across the board, because you were my coach. You are my coach, were, are. But you're so much more than that. You're an unbelievably intuitive, gifted, wise woman, world renowned retreat leader, and you make cool quizzes that go fricking viral. Yeah. And you, you have a podcast called Channel Your Genius, which I've been listening to for years. It is number one, not even my, my podcast is number one, but yours is number one. That's the one I listened to first. And then I go and listen to mine. Cause I don't know. I love my podcast. yours is really good, that's why. Thank you. It's fun. that's, mean, okay. On the gutsy chick quiz, what are you? I'm a bruiser. I'm a bruiser. I'm a hard charging type a alpha chick man. Yeah. So I'm a bruiser and then my secondary is brainster. And I looked it up for you because nobody really knows their secondary because I'm not putting that out there yet. But that's coming. I'm going to put together another quiz so that you can see how your combo plays out. That's a must because it just is. But you're a bruiser brainster. I'm a bruiser brainster. I had Linda Yraceburu on, and she's also a bruiser, brainster, and all three of us are gifted healers. I don't find this ironic. I think it's fricking brilliant because when you hear the word bruiser, what's the first thing that you think of. Kind of like the big like roller derby. Yeah, toughie. Yeah. chicks. Get your helmet on. Boxer, that's always the word that pops into my head. They're like the boxing champ. But we're healers. We're these very sensitive, very intuitive healers. Okay. So you're the original creator of these fun, cool, short, fast quizzes. And your quiz is the Soul Gift Quiz at soulgiftquiz.com. Go take it. Can you give us what your archetypes are? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I just want to mention where it came from because I had been, as you know, a lawyer, a Catholic, a Stanford grad. I was a very logical person. And then I accidentally got psychic real quick when I gave birth to Clarise back in the year 2000. And so my challenge has always been, and I suspect, well, I think you and I are similar in this way to find the systems. to find systems that actually ground that information. And so the soul gifts archetypes were something that I was using with my spirit guides. was suddenly, I went from being a business lawyer and a litigation preparation specialist to being some kind of woo-woo person. I'm like, well, what the hell am how am I going to pay my mortgage? You know, so I thought, well, I guess I'll use this thing. I'll give sessions, I'll give readings. Great. So I started giving long distance clearings and readings and I thought, well, let's, let's create some efficiency systems around this. What I want is for my guides or my, you know, I just say guides. It's like my metaphor for the spirit, the mystery to, tell me something important about this person before I even get on the phone with them, before I even do a journey for them, before I even do anything. And my guides, my spirit were the ones that came up with these five archetypes. They're like, look, everybody's one of these five soul types. I'm like, huh, really? Yeah. There's the creators who are the systems people, the ones who are born into this body to build new things, to critique well, to evolve systems. they just, they're born into this body and they already know what things are and how they work. And they're kind of know it all even as a kid. I'm like, okay, I know the type, yeah. Mm-hmm. there's messenger types. Messenger souls are here to translate wisdom. So even as a kid, they're like singing songs on the coffee table and they need to be heard. And if you interrupt them, they get really ticked off. And so these are messenger souls. I'm like, okay. And they're often meant to be teachers, know, or translators, like that kind of thing. And there's transmitters who are the really sensitive souls and they are here to emanate. a certain energy in the world, an energy that transforms people around them. I'm like, whoa, okay, that's different, right? Because it's not like directive doing a thing. Transmitters are transmitting their emanation 24 seven, and that's their work. That's their work in the world. That's what their soul came here to do, is to emanate this evolutionary frequency that tends to change people, heal people. And it's invisible, but those are often the deep intuitives I end up working with because they need help actually strategizing a business or a life where that gift can not only be seen and recognized, but also even can get paid well. So that's the transmitters. Then there's the researcher souls. They came here to see things clearly. And these are the people in your life that they don't seem to get riled up or ruffled. They just, they're the ones who actually know what is not fake news. They're the only ones who know what is not fake news because they're so clear, you know, about things. And actually Tony, apparently my partner is a researcher. I thought he was a creator and he's like, I'm a researcher. I'm like, gosh, there's researchers all around me. My son Colin is a researcher. I had to have them take the quiz to find out. This is where the quiz becomes very helpful. Cause you assume you know what people are. assume what you. You assume you know what you are. I mean, look at you, Amanda, you were trained to be a creator. You're an aerospace engineer, but actually you're transmitter. So realizing your soul gift can be a big giant aha, but it also lands with this deeper sense of validation. The only type I haven't talked about yet is the explorer souls. And those are the souls that come into this world to test all the limits. So these are our friends that are just constantly. jumping out of planes, traveling around the world, trying different relationship types on, constantly trying different things on just for the sake of living an expanded life and testing the limits. So those are the five soul gift types. And that's when you take the soul gift quiz, you might be thinking to yourself, I know which one I am. And it's like, it's a 50-50 because we are all trained to be something that we're not. When you realize, I'm actually this other one. It opens a journey of self discovery and self acceptance that can be really powerful. I think learning, one, all the different types is helpful too. And that's in your emails, the first thing they get is the, here's you and here's all the information about you. And then the next email is, hey, guess what? Here's all the other people. Now go and figure out who in your life is who. My husband's a researcher, right? We're both surrounded by researchers. Interesting, Yeah, yes. I took this quiz, man, six years ago, seven, eight, seven years ago. So it's been a minute. And when I took it the first time, I was blown away because I got transmitter and I was going, okay, this, it felt so unbelievably true and so far against where I was at because I was so deep in aerospace at that point. And I was like, I know I want to get out. And I talk about that on episode 63, where I'm trying to escape the aerospace industry, but scared to death and had to go into overthinking mode about it. But at that time, when I took this quiz, I was going, I'm not supposed to be here. This is really not where I'm supposed to be. And it was one of the 15 signs that the universe was bludgeoning me over the head with. And I was going, okay, well, how the hell do I use this? At that time I was getting my yoga teacher training, I was doing softball lessons constantly and I was going, I don't know how to do this. And then I dove into your business academy and I dove into your leadership circle and it was just like, okay, Amanda, these are the steps you're going to take. This is how you're going to get there. And I'm going to be with you every step of the way. And now here we are. Seven or eight years later, gutsy chick podcast, gutsy, gutsy chick quiz, body whisper, healing, all the things doing. I call them distance body clearings, but it's drum journeying. And now you're about to embark on doing drum journey training and retreat for a new cohort. Cause I taught you a couple of years ago. I taught your cohort a couple of years ago and I hadn't, I hadn't taught it. Was that 2020? my gosh. That was five years ago. So this tells you kind of how often I teach this and maybe I should be teaching it more, but it's a lot. It's a big transmission to give. Drum journey is like the core. that I use and that my mentees use to bridge the worlds with a system to let those intuitive guides and messages and visions come through with clarity and purpose and intention and land in the real world with real results. It's like, you know, especially for those of us who maybe you're starting to have these intuitive awakening things happen and. You're getting feeling kind of like you're visited or you're having crazy dreams or you're getting sensations and it's all kind of chaotic and you're trying to keep up with it. And it's like, man, I wish this all made sense. drum journey. When you have drum journey, it's like your red phone to the other side. You you just pick up the phone, get all the information, put the phone down and then have a life. So. Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, it's definitely time to teach another group how to do this. And not only to teach them how to use the practice in their own lives, to just talk to their guides in a way that makes a lot of sense and gets great results and manifests what they want in their own lives and the lives of their family, but also to teach more folks how to use it in their own healing practice or their own intuitive guidance practice or their coaching or whatever, because you can get such miraculous results for people by giving them a drum journey. And you're such an incredible, like you're the, you know, you're an A student in that because you just took to it like a duck to water. You're like, a system aerospace engineer that, that makes sense that leverages and makes sense of all this spiritual energetic stuff that I've got. I, it'll take it. And you're just like, whoosh. And now your drum journeys are so incredibly powerful. Like they're a deal. You know, you're, charging good money for him. 800, a thousand bucks. It's worth every flipping penny because you're, you're accessing stuff that you can't access otherwise. And you're creating results that never happened that fast with without doing it. So it's, um, yeah, I'm really, I'm so proud of you. I'm so excited that I got to be a part of that. And now I receive drum journey with you sometimes. Like I'm one of your clients sometimes because your way of doing it and your access. to the body is like profound and so effectual. Like I could go, you know, spend money on a healer or a doctor for a whole bunch of things and spend tens of thousands of dollars or I can call Amanda. If I know what's really happening. So yeah. Yeah. for, I love the journey that you and I have been on too, where it was, you're my mentor, you're teaching me the ways and now I get to share with you. the- Yes. Aaron's event. You had your dog. We were outside. We were just met and we were like, big, big, big, something. don't know. Something. I don't know. We're going to do something. We'll find out. And then it was years. And then you stepped in. I mean, you might, think you got a session with me pretty soon, but you stepped into the, you stepped into the, the business mentorship a few years ago. Yep, two, three, three years ago. it's a journey. Sometimes you just know that someone's meant to be on your path. And I feel that way with a lot of us in the business mentorship, like there's, you know, sometimes you get called into a group and you're like, man, I know all you guys, come on, you know, and the leaders circle too. We're, it's like family. Yeah, like immediate family. And you as a container builder, that's the thing I'm learning from you this year, how to really hold the space for a group of people. I can hold space for individuals, but when it comes to holding space for a group, I need more training. And that is one of your major gifts when it comes to this kind of work. Holding space for drum journeying for an individual is one thing, but for an entire group and seeing how they grow blossom and then go off and use it. Holy cow. Our cohort from 2000 or 2020. I see where we're all at. And I'm a, I'm a natural tracker. So I'm, I'm watching. you are. and what they're doing and how they're doing it. And some of them I haven't been able to find, but you know. Mm-hmm. We've all grown so unbelievably much in such a short period of time and it speaks to the power of the container that you hold, the safety that you provided, the guidance you gave us, and then the power of the drum journey. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's true. It's I'm so humbled and amazed at the power that happens when a circle comes together with shared intention on sacred land. It's it's profound what we're able to share with each other when when the container is strong and I bow to Maria Yraceburu and to Beatrix Kuntana. And to everyone that I learned how to hold space from when I was a teenager leading Catholic retreats, like I've been at it for a while. And then I, I've headed up several intentional communities and nothing teaches you how to hold space, like holding consensus decision-making meetings, 20 people living together. Um, so it's, it's, it's hard one. The that was done, I'm super psyched to share it with you and other members of the leader circle this year, because holding space for a group is a lot of invisible work that when we map it and you see what's really happening there, you can create powerful, powerful experiences for your people in class, on retreat, whether it's in person or on zoom or whatever, like space holding is a thing and, you know, in, our Apache family, talk about it, about it as the gift of the guardian. The guardian part of us is the one that holds the container while the teacher part goes da da da da da da da. And the initiator part goes, whoa. So there's like these three roles and we, as mentors, we, it's important for us to pull people in to help with each of those roles, but also we have to understand all three so that we can. Create groups that don't accidentally erupt in drama or just fizzle and fall apart or where people get really agitated, triggered. Yeah, it's a whole invisible art and I'm super psyched to get to share that with you this year. Super psyched. Because you already have, I think, a lot of wisdom that goes into that. But when you learn the tricks and tips, you really click it in. system. I need the system. Need that system download. the system. We love systems. Jeremiah DeRosa, who's also going to be on Gutsy Chick podcast in a couple of episodes. He's also in the leadership circle with us and yesterday was his first holding for the sound temple. He, was, I was his guardian and it was so unbelievably powerful that the power in his house went out during the call. And I told him, I would I was standing during his journey for us. It wasn't ideal, but because he set the container the way that you've caught us already, he was there. I was the co-host. We didn't drop off. I continued to hold the container and explain to everybody what just happened in Journey for us, because that's what he did right before this happened. I was standing. I don't normally stand during Journey. I didn't realize... How powerful that moment was gonna be, but this container with these humans blew me out. I came out of that journey dizzy, holding onto my desk going, holy crap, what just happened? And then boom, lights out. And I was like, holy. Well, it's so cool that you're sharing this story with me because I'm like, okay, good. You guys are going to both be here soon. We're going to be talking about space holding and we're going to talk about how you keep that shit from happening and what you do when it does and how you keep it from doing it in the. Yeah. Because there's there's stuff that I do on a regular basis. And frankly, that I also have my guardians like Alora do for me. grounding the electrical fields, resonating, harmonizing with the tools and technologies, because it is a thing and anyone who's having a psychic awakening will find that they'll blow out their Apple watch or they'll fry their earplugs or whatever like stuff electrical things can get zapped. so yeah, there's things that we can do to modulate and harmonize to co-create with the electrical fields around us. We're not victims of it. We're collaborators, but you got to know how to collaborate. Tricky, sticky business. Alright, one last question for you. When it comes to the the drum journeying retreat and training that you're about to host from the soul gift quiz, who are the most common people that show up for these things? And what are the different archetypes going to get out of it? So, transmitters are the immediate yes for that. They're like, my God, I have so many energies and I can't make sense of them. And yes, let me do a drum drum so that I can manage all of this energy that floods through me and all these different pieces. The creators love it because it's a system and it creates efficiency and it creates access to a lot of like Cosmic Libraries and all kinds of stuff that creators get very excited about. Researchers kind of too, it grounds something. Although maybe researchers don't do it as much, they're fascinated by it, but they're like almost scared to approach it. But when they learn it, they realize, I can do this too. Like there is a logic to it. And then the messengers love it because messengers long to have more like... story, more access to the panoramic, like, the movie of the work. And when you do drum journey, you get more visual, you get more visuals, you get more symbolism, you access a realm of symbolic, you know, visual fun that you wouldn't otherwise access. So, who's left out explorers? Well, explorers just want to like toot around the whole universe. Explorers. I really need to teach them. protocols and integrity protocols for journeying so that they're not just doing the whole out of body spy on people thing out of curiosity yeah it is yeah yeah yes. my gosh. Mellissa, thank you so unbelievably much for being on Gutsy Chick podcast. You guys go check out Soul Give Quiz. And if you're interested in this retreat, you have until May 15th to sign up. So if this is something on your radar right now, go. Cause it's Yeah. As long as spots are available, you are welcome to sign up. Yep. Hopefully there's still spots left. Yeah, there probably will be at May 1st. Yeah, probably. Yay. Thanks, love.