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The Moon, the Earth, and the Old Ways That Still Heal

• Amanda Smith • Episode 81

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This week on the Gutsy Chick podcast, I’m joined by ceremonialist and wisdom-keeper Maria Yraceburu—and we’re diving deep into the ancient Earth teachings that modern life forgot. From the truth about lunar cycles and water’s role in your wellbeing, to why ritual isn’t just “woo”—it’s survival—we’re reconnecting to the rhythms that have always guided us.  

This one’s soulful, grounded, and full of truth bombs you didn’t know you needed so tune in now. 


In this Episode:   

00:00 Introduction to Earth Wisdom and Cross-Cultural Practices 

01:07 Understanding Earth Cycles and Their Impact on Us 

04:08 The Role of Language and Words in Spiritual Practices 

07:00 Astrology and Indigenous Wisdom: A Comparative Approach 

10:00 Mother Earth’s Changes: Menopause and Transformation 

12:51 Reclaiming Power and Redefining Reality 

15:46 The Future: Healing and Evolving Together 

23:26 Reflecting on Personal Shifts: 2008 to 2012 

25:02 Exploring Historical Context: 1839 and Its Relevance 

29:05 Introduction to Spiral Dance: A Transformative Journey 

32:02 Understanding the Spiral Dance Structure and Community 

38:06 The Illusion of Time and Its Impact on Our Lives 

39:50 Connecting the Dots: Universal Truths Across Systems 

42:49 The Power of Choice in Personal Growth 

44:19 Invitation to Join the Spiral Dance Community 



Here’s how to connect with Maria Yraceburu: 

Website: https://www.yraceburu.org 

Free Gift: https://www.yraceburu.org/free-downloads.html 

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Maria, thank you so, so much for saying yes to being on Gutsy Chick podcast with me. You and I have known each other now for just under a year. Can you believe that? Me either. It feels like lifetimes, which I love. It really does. I mean... We'll explain that. Just to bring everybody else up to speed who's listening, Maria, Yracébûrû And I know I just said it wrong, Yracébûrû You are a ceremonialist. You are an author. You are my Shima, which means auntie. She gets to be eccentric and fun with me. I love that fact. You are at the forefront of the preservation and perpetuation of cross-cultural Earth wisdom collaboration. That's a mouthful, but what I wanna share with everybody is you are teaching all cultures about what you learned in your native practices growing up. So when it comes to relating to Earth, one of the things that I'm doing right now is connecting people into their bodies, but relative to all of the Earth happenings, like our moon cycles and space weather, which is specific to the sun and the different crazy things that are happening right now, like all of the volcanic activity that we're seeing, all the tsunamis that are coming from the earthquakes that are also connected to the volcanoes and all of the things that that Mother Earth is going, hey, things are changing. But you're the one who carries a boatload of knowledge and has tracked this stuff for way longer than me. So what part of Earth wisdom relative to all of that would you like to impart on us so that people can understand how important it is to connect to the Earth? well, yeah, it's a big question because, um, okay, let's start with water. Okay. Let's start with water and the elements a little bit because with water, you know, the human body, you may have a different percentage. I seem to remember Linda and this is not the statistics on the human body are not my forte. So if I get it a little off, fix it. Um, okay. So, you know, we're like 75 to 80 percent water, I think. And so if you're just watching the planet in the daily tide system that works off our coasts, you have to kind of like ask yourself, you know, if that gravitational pull is affecting that, how is it affecting us? Because we're so much water, right? Now, in a lot of what we call the dreaming societies, which is indigenous spirituality, because there's a lot to that I'm not going into right. But it but it means like 20 % of your reality is real. OK, the rest of it, we're going to have to grow. So oh with that. There's a lot of things like the scene and unseen. And again, the cycles that we've grown up with that most people have been cut off from and have to develop. It's like a. It's like an atrophied muscle. You got to work it. Okay. To get it back. Um, but yeah, that's one of the easiest ways to demonstrate how the, the different cycles of what happens in life in the physical do affect us. And that's, that's a point also that says, you know, people are out there saying we all want to be one. Right? We want to be one with the earth. We want to be one with the universe. Well, that includes your physical. It's not just about spirit land. OK? This is everything plays on everybody else, which is kind of like our all our relations. When we're saying that, we're understanding even the things we don't see we're related to. And so. Let's consider that for a minute, okay? Then when you look at Earth and you see, okay, yeah, well, she's got her four seasons. Kind of these days, okay? But it's still trackable, okay? Even the things I hear about with the volcanoes, with this, with that. If you actually track it historically back far enough, you see a pattern, okay? Anything that is a pattern is trackable, okay? If it is trackable, you can know what to do. Right? Or not do. Or in between how to make it easier. know, step it up. You know, upgrade the frequency. um So that's kind of what living or aligning within time has always meant. And when I was a kid, I think it started mostly, and this is something that you and I started doing almost immediately, was that greet the sun. Get up and watch the sun come up. And whether you're a prayer person or not, I am, get up, I say prayers. Just even those colors, that optical coloring, how that can affect you throughout your day, watching that sunrise and then holy moly, go do it at sunset too if you got the time, right? Because I'm gonna tell you, sunrise, sunset, you just balance your masculine, feminine and your days go better. You sleep better at night. Okay. you're less uh argumentative and you're more effective in change. Okay, because it's easier for people to accept you when you're in that balanced energy. It brings around something that becomes, oh, can we negotiate here to know this is a fact, we're moving forward. Okay, so the daily cycle, the lunar cycles, play effects on us. And part of what I do with you, because we work together now frequently, is that, OK, this is like the August new moon, which is a butterfly, right? It will be the next one coming up. And they're gauged by animals. And then those animal traits take that into practical understanding of energies for us. uh I don't know how long that's been around. You know how we communicate about things and some of this stuff is like, yeah, you know, in 500 years, I'm going to be talking about it differently because we'll have different communication stuff happening and words will mean different things. even words like when we stepped into 2012, Linda and I were saying, examine your words, OK, because they don't mean what you think they do. And that brought around. the teaching about the word silly. And I have an African aunt that's an Orisha priestess. And em I think I met her like back in 2003. Okay. Now, aunt, okay. I'm going to tell you all, auntie and native tradition, indigenous tradition means a woman is the same age as your mother. Okay. That's pretty much it. And since we were in a village in the old days that maybe had 24 people. and they were all related anyway, they were your aunties, right? So I have all these women that I'm not related to by blood, but they're my spiritual aunties. And they have educated me more in these cross-cultural ways. So when I was talking to her back in 2003, she was storytelling, right? At this women's festival. And she was talking about how, yeah, when the missionaries came to Uganda, OK, that they saw them all dancing and doing their spiritual offerings and the way they practice. And they were using the word silly. Right. And the missionaries took that as a word that meant, they're being frivolous. They're being right. This has no meaning other than it's a feel-good like drugs, right? Something like that, I guess. Anyway, but she told us silly in their language means to be at one with God. That's beautiful. Okay? So to be with God is to be innocent, to feel that presence, to allow that into your life and to celebrate what that brings to you. That's the all-encompassing silly, right? And yet here we are, mainstream world, oh, you're being silly. well, thank you. Thank you. You know, and then... Sorry is another one, okay, that came up a lot and it's still coming up. You know, we say we're sorry for a lot. And first off, most of what we say we're sorry for, we didn't do. So why are you sorry? That's taking it with what we think it means. And then when you actually see what the meaning is, it means to pity. It does not mean I empathize with what you're feeling. Oh yeah, use the right words. am apologizing because I did something that hurt you. Okay, so the words in our language, we are in a point in history where those are kind of being redefined just like what reality is. You immediately make me think of the princess bride. Inconceivable! I don't think you know that that's what that means. I have to tell you that was so long ago. I don't even remember that. I did see it once. I remember like two people that were in it. Okay, let's talk about those words relative to the moons because today slash tomorrow, tonight is a full moon. And I keep seeing online that this is the sturgeon full moon. Where did sturgeon come from? Because I know that's not what you're calling this moon. So what's that about? Is that a fisherman thing? Back in like, I think it was in the 80s. It could have been in the early 90s. A man named Sun Wolf put out a bunch of books that started people on the Native American medicine path. It was one of the books, we had several come out that were of historic value, you know, like we're. reading Lame Deer's biography or Black Dog's biography or some historical thing that spells things out. But Sun Bear, excuse me, not Sun Wolf, Sun Bear actually took it and oh he was a jib away, or on a zombie. And he took it and... He made a book that he put out for non-natives to start to associate with the land, okay? And that more native aspect of things. Now, I'm gonna tell you the moons and how they relate and what we call them. We don't have sturgeon in Arizona, so a sturgeon moon would not exist, okay? We call this the owl moon, all right? So it depends on the tribe, it depends on the locality uh as to what we're going to be calling that. But because he wrote this book and became quite famous with it, he also wrote the Medicine Wheel book, which is also Ojibwe in origin. Medicine wheel practices go throughout the, you know, North America, South America. uh And I'm going tell you even Europe, because when you think of our medicine, we'll be looking at the labyrinth, okay? Mm-hmm. be looking at the circles of stones. They're all the same kind of situation, um which is about tracking, interestingly enough. It starts with the tracking of what's happening with the lunar and solar aspects. um So yeah, so it got really famous and they're still using it today because there is no real organized information out there. Even what I do for you kids when we're going through the cycles and I'm counseling you, But I do work to align you guys so you recognize the different cycles and how you line up in it so that you can find greater ease in your life. Yes, which is what I love. And I feel like there's a lot of people who are looking at astrology and using it in a similar way, right? Western astrology or even Vedic astrology. Not many people know about Vedic astrology, unfortunately, but here in the US, everybody knows Western astrology. And you and I had a little chat before we started recording about astrology. It's a great tool for exactly what you just said to make you understand where you're at in the cycle and help you through that cycle. At what point do you look at things like Western astrology and go, is that really right? Did they continue to track and upgrade their system or did they just say, we're gonna knock this in time, this is where we're at and we're moving on? Whereas indigenous, feels like you guys continue to track and upgrade. Uh, yes to the second. Okay, you crack an upgrade. Um, and as far as Western astrology, you know, I like comparing notes. It's just like the cross-cultural stuff, right? Um, and I have an aunt that's prolific in Tibetan astrology and, um, and, and what's it, oh, in numerology, she does both of them. And, um, I would say 90 % of the time are things aligned. Okay, I love that. um And when I can't think for myself or interpret my own readings with cycles, then I go to my aunt. Okay. um I don't think you can read for yourself when you're in the spin. So you have to have those people. And it's not that I trust the astrology. I trust my aunt's reading. There it is. That's, yeah, that's the difference. That's the beauty of it too. And surrounding yourself with all the different cultures so that you can compare notes and go, I need your specific knowledge, not a whole culture's knowledge. I love that. We learned to... This is a re-learning about trust. It's also a re-learning about how we tune into our relationships. Because you know, I'm a firm believer. got, I don't need to learn everything. I got people that know that shit, right? If I need to know something, I come and ask you, Amanda, like the other day when we were talking about some disease, right? ah It was like, okay, I've heard of this, but I need to know. And so you filled me in and then I knew. um And then I knew what to do because I think that the underlying healing that goes into all our work is how do we fully engage with what we are here to experience? Even if it's hurt, even if it's grief, even if it's chaos, how are we here to fully engage and yet never feel powerless? Okay. not feel helpless. And that's what the knowing the cycles and living by what I see the Earth Mother doing that keeps me out of that realm of I don't know what the fuck to do. Okay, so we're in kind of a crazy time on this planet. uh A lot of volcanoes are waking up right now. And I know you're tracking a good portion of them. What is that all about? What's Mother Earth trying to tell us? Well, she's changing. So are we. know, everybody's mutating. Life on this planet is never stagnant. So it's like, OK, she's going through stuff. And according to the prophecies and the stories of the indigenous people, she's like about halfway through that. So if you figure she's in menopause, you can relate to her better. OK, if you have any menopausal women in your household, Or you've known any, you will now understand Earth. um Continents shift, you know, just like gravity makes us all fall. uh Okay. um All our land mass, people look at the land, you know, like up here, you know at the ranch, you've been up here and we have a lot of megalith boulders, right? We got like maybe four inches of topsoil. So to do anything, we got to blast the rock open. um So cool. So we come to this sensation or this belief that land is solid. Well, land's not solid. It floats around on the magma core. And it's going to move as the planet breathes. And we also, I love science, they now understand that the planet expands and contracts, ebbs and flows, has different layers of energy that we all have to work with. Okay, between me and the aunties and the family, it's like, it's so nice when science catches up. Yeah. Okay. So, but it also, I do get excited when science catches up because it gives us a new way to communicate what's going on. Yeah. And you can't stop her unless you want death. Let's put it that way. You gotta learn to work with it, not try to stop it. if you've surfed or snowboarded or skied or done anything with Earth, you learn that immediately. There's no con- you don't have control over what's going to happen with Earth. surf. That's what I tell the kids these days. If you know how to surf, you're going to be okay in life. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. So if Mother Earth is going through menopause and she's also birthing land at the same time, does that mean that she's in her 50s and she's pregnant? Kinda. I'd say more like 45. That's, I'm almost 45. can't, no, no hard path. you tell me you were premenopausal? Well there you go! You're in perfect alignment! kidding. It's not awful. It's actually, I think what, if we can sink into the fact that these changes are natural, normal, and they're all supposed to happen, and if they're out of control, there's something else wrong with your body, then you'll understand what in the world the earth is doing right now. Right. And that is one of the things that we learn through our stories and our prophecies is that as human emotions calm and the whirlwind of the mind slows down, so do the earth changes and we're actually entering a time of settling. So this is kind of like the first year of maybe what the new normal is. Ooh, I said that during COVID. I said 2025 is going to be the new normal. It's gonna be a time when we finally walk away from what happened in COVID, obviously have the lessons from it, but less emotionally attached to it. And everything will be new and people will be looking for both. They'll be looking for how is this the way it used to be because I was comfortable there and what's coming. Yeah. so, um, like 20, 2008, I think we were starting to talk about, it's time to start redefining our words. It's time to read, just define the bottom line, redefine what reality is and redefine our power in manifesting that. Okay. Because also when we went from 2000 to 11 to 2012 and made that transition. We have to redefine who we are because it's that victimization, okay? You can't claim victim, okay? Everybody's doing this healing work, you know, it's not all this way or it's not all that way or it's not all this, but the fact, no matter what you're doing, you're reclaiming part of who you are. And like that muscle that we were talking about, you got to exercise. Well, that includes your extra century telepathy. That includes ah your physical abilities. I mean, you're a boatload of static electricity. There's a hell of a lot of things you could be doing in your supernatural power, ah you know, which is a return to who we once were. So when you listen to the legends about dragons or you listen to the legends about magic, You know, one thing I know about our mythology is every story comes out of an element of truth. OK, so there's certain things that we can focus on that are the movement forward and re-evolving, re-evolving into the future of that. um Yeah want to give the audience, the listeners a challenge. Go back and think about where you were at in 2008 and 2011 and what shifted for you when you got to 2009 and 2012. When you think about those times and those shifts, how much resistance did you have toward the changes? Or were you fully open to what was going on? I know for me, 2009 was when I did yoga teacher training. I was working on NASA's Artemis program at that time and I did yoga teacher training. So two things that are not alike. And I was, I am a walking dichotomy. It was in that time that I knew we've got to start stepping forward. There's something else out here that we've got to start doing. And then 2011 to 2012, let's see. So that was right before the Mayan apocalypse at the end of 2012, Patrick proposed to me on the Mayan apocalypse. So there were big changes for me going on in 2012, but 2011 was this recreation of who I was. I was debating about what I was doing in the aerospace industry. was debating about relationships. all of my relationships, friend relationships, romantic relationships, familial relationships. So I challenge you guys go back and think about what was going on then because we're in the throes of that. Absolutely. I want to know what you were doing in 1839. 1839 is relevant to what's happening today. 1839 really. 1839, play with it. I'm going to, from a family perspective, I know we had some, there was some migration from Europe to the United States during those years, like right around those years. So I've got to go look at the histories of the family. But if I think about the 1800s just as a general, who was I, what was I doing? I was a maiden, I was one of those, like, not high class, but definitely wore the dresses and I was female at the time. And I was on the forefront of the Feminist Act. Nice. Yeah. yeah, you guys play with that one. That's fun. Okay. Well, that explains some things. I was actually born about that time in that lifetime. So it's really close to when Ney Lynn Lago was born. Yeah. So is that were you were you a masculine body or a feminine body then or neither feminine? Okay. I was grandpa's mom. my gosh, okay. that's wild to think about. How much of what she knew did she pass on to him? Because I know he was your main teacher. Yeah, most of what he shared with me came from her and a big part of his teachings were to help merge us, which really I thought that for a long time, right? And I don't know if it was like the channel part that she's gonna step in and take over kind of shit, right? Or whether it was just the, it's too big a story for me to wrap my brain around. Yeah, yeah. Oh, there's a book that I loved as a child. It's still my all time favorite book by Christopher Pike called Starlight Crystal. And it's about time travel, but in using spacecraft going out so far into the universe, watching the earth die, then watching it be reborn and then bringing the spacecraft back in and meeting herself. Yeah. And I'm like that loop right there is what you just described. So fascinating. happen when my boys were little and it was like 10, 12 years after grandpa had crossed. But it was, was in the shower washing my hair and I looked at the white tile on the wall and it had become like a movie screen, only 3D. And my great grandmother was there washing her hair under the waterfall. And we actually reached out and touched fingers. And I don't remember anything after that, but somehow I finished the shower and didn't manage to have a complete meltdown. It didn't really happen a lot until after I got hit by the lightning, though, and then she was a permanent fixture. I feel like the best things happen in the shower when it comes to... Because the water! It goes back to what we were talking about. The body is 75 to 80 percent water, so is the planet. yeah, shower time is the best time for some of the best thoughts, the best new ideas, and some of these moments where we get to tap back into past lives or familial past lives or people who have passed. That is so cool. Okay noted, something to strive for. All right, let's talk about spiral dance because you're about to open the doors for new people to come into spiral dancing, which is I'm in spiral dancing with you. Let me just share my experience in spiral dance and then you can fill in some of the gaps on what. what people need to know about when to sign up and how to sign up and why to sign up. I'll cover the why. So when I started doing spiral dancing, this was me being taught the wheel, coming into the wheel and understanding how moving through time, moving through space and moving through these stones. So the way that we do it is through stonework. We're learning more about ourselves and potentially putting down some things that no longer serve us. Mm-hmm. What I've taken from the work so far, and this is we're almost a year in now. I have been able to let go of certain things that have happened to me that I want the data from it, but I don't want the attachment to it emotionally. I've been able to walk away from those things and finally move forward. Mm-hmm. I've done so much different kinds of work to do that. And this is the first time that it's stuck. And it's so unbelievably freeing. So if you've been one of those people who has tried therapy, has tried going into meditation, uh and building a meditation practice to let go of some of that old shit. Chit, it's chit in Sanskrit, but trying to let go of it and it hasn't stuck, it hasn't worked, it still cycles back to you and you still have to deal with it. This is the place. This is the place where you finally get to let go. This is the place where it phases out and it just becomes a lesson instead of this thing that's holding you back from moving forward. So. I have the utmost appreciation for these teachings that you taught yourself through your grandpa. So that we can move forward in our timeline, in our path, and finally come out the other side to do our purpose, to show up in the light that others need us to show up in, in the service that we were meant to do on this planet, in this density. So thank you. You're welcome. So when do doors open for spiral dancing? um We have an annual registration period of August 15th till October 15th and then our orientation meeting with everyone is on the 17th of October to work you into the system because it's quite a system when you first come in. Yeah, my gosh, yeah, there's two books you get, know, one's a workbook, one's a mythology book so you know where some of this comes from, the foundation, because it all starts with a a story, right? um And, and yeah, and then there's uh like monthly some of the things we expect from you, or that we actually provide for you, right? So like there's a monthly two hour class, what we call a pinfade, which means vision circle that you have with me, and it's all around ceremony and ritual and some of the things we're doing uh this year, next year. We're literally doing structured initiations online as best we can. And uh so there's that. That's two hours, one on the first Monday of the month. Then you also have what we call a clan family meeting, which is you're assigned a guardian or a mentor. And if you like, the best example I can give of this is if you went to college, you had the tutor. You had the office hours, you had study groups, right? Well, the Klan family is a study group that you bond with and you build these relations in a smaller group. And the head of that is the mentor or the Klan guardian who represents like an older cousin that's been through it already. uh I find them invaluable because they help me translate things sometimes that, you know, Yeah, I look like you guys, but there are some things I do not have experience with. ah It wasn't part of my reality growing up. So sometimes a translator can be helpful in getting you and me on the same page with the explanations and the understanding of what we're doing. uh So you got that's an hour, the clan group, right? Then there's an hour that you come and you do counseling with me about how you're working in the cycles and how you're aligning to the planet and getting you into a flow. It's usually our goal that after a year, when the next year comes, you at least have your notes and can kind of see how you were in that cycle and you see you've upgraded. I am operating better in this, this energy that's being presented, but also being able to tap that support energy that Mother offers. um Knowing the cycles and how I am in each cycle lets me know, yeah, you know what, that Al Moon, maybe I should be going on vacation this year. Maybe that's not a good time to indulge in governmental stuff, things of that nature, right? So it helps you schedule or prioritize your time to a more efficient way of being. um So that's what happens when you come to counseling with me. And then you also have available a one-on-one with your guardian to help you work through anything you're not understanding and to share their story so that you can find the best way for you to do things. Because even though we're presenting like instruction and ritual, you know, that's just one variation of that ritual. In the study work itself, there's 24 stones in our medicine wheel. Each represents a lunar cycle. We don't go into that too much in the beginning. It's more about recognizing the energy of that cycle and then utilizing rituals to break patterns that are illusional. oh It's not the idea that's illusional, but it's based on an illusional thing that was given to you when you were the sponge soaking things up, right? And I don't even want to say people lied to you. Okay. it wasn't a lie, they just told you what they thought was the truth. And just like science, the truth changes from day to day. I'm going to tell you in dreaming society, the truth stays the same all the time. That's also what we're working it towards. In the medicine wheel, the truth is the truth. It's just cyclic as to which truth you're looking at. Mmm. mean truth like, oh today this truth is true and tomorrow that truth. No, I'm saying we're working with different energies and that's the truth of that energy. I like that. Yeah. And it's self-paced. We don't make anybody go through very fast. There's no timeline. ah That's the other thing about Earth. Yeah, there's cycles you have to live by, like take the wood in for winter. That's really necessary in some places. Or make sure you've hauled in water for the summer or you're camping by water. These are things we learned growing up too. ah You orient your tasks. towards the season and how much you are physically exertive. Okay. It's not that you can't do things mentally, but you also learn how to time that so that it's when you're at your optimum speed and you're doing things energy oriented. So you're actually accomplishing things instead of, I'm supposed to be, you know, writing this program or interviewing somebody and I can't get off the couch. Mm. Mm-mm. allow for those days if I can't get off the couch. We schedule it. right? They should be planned in. More people need to know that. And that's something that we learned. never do it. How's that? Because you're letting time run you and time's actually an illusion because it doesn't exist. Yeah. level, on the spiritual level. Yeah. Time's an illusion. part of the heavy dense reality. It's not part of Earth's reality. There was a science document that just came out actually about the different dimensions of time. And I have to share that with you after this, but my gosh, it was mind-warping, but at the same time, validating everything that you and I already know. And I was going, finally, finally, someone from Russia did the study, found out, and here we are, time's an illusion. So that makes two articles that have confirmed things we have discussed. And the other one was, there was an article in the Washington Post that a girlfriend of ours showed us, and it has to do with how your body is actually affected by the weather and how humans are mutating into barometers. Yeah, which we, mean, anybody who has had a severe injury or surgery already knows this. And they finally did the science. They finally studied us. Right? Now we're all on the same page and have the same stinking language, which is really the whole point. It really is. it really is. I love it. I love it. And it's frustrating sometimes, very frustrating sometimes. That's what all the tracking is for and the understanding that all these things are alike. All these different systems that we've learned, all of these different religions that we've been presented with, they're all the same and there's no reason to fight about it. You know, the second that, what is it, ownership, I guess maybe, ownership or uh the hierarchal leadership. See, that's something else. We're not hierarchal leadership or circle leadership. We believe you're a leader as long as people choose to follow you, Our constitution, Bill of Rights, whatever you want to call it, it came from the Iroquois clan mothers. then it was tweaked. I refer to things as tweaking them, OK? Because when we tweak with the medicine, we'll we're upgrading the frequency and how we think about things. With the constitution, the way it was tweaked, was laid with Native America and then they look towards the Greek and the Romans and the early, you know, democracies as to, okay, now we're going to tweak it and have it. So is it. Rich white men can have more power. Okay. So. um Not one she in that statement. That whole document has no she's in it. We the people, hee hee hee. Yeah. Well, know, but we was important to us because, and it still is, because in my language, there is no we, there is no I. Everything's referred to in the we, which keeps us in that momentum with all our relations. some days it's hard for me to translate. It's hard to speak it too, cause you've had us do that exercise. It's viral dance at immersion actually. So every year we come together as a community, not mandatory, but nice to gather as a family. And we do it on your land. And the exercise this year was say we instead of I, so fricking hard. So hard. Yeah. is something to consider that most of the changes in life that need to be done and what we really work on in spiral dance, it's not whether you need to give something away. It's not you need to learn something. It's not that you need to take this on or get rid of the know what it is, is breaking the pattern so that you have choice. Yep. Yep. Number one thing I've learned so far, everything is a choice. I find myself saying that to people a lot now. You have a choice. Yeah. a choice to stay in that helplessness. And I'm going to tell you, even that's a choice. That's a choice to turn all the decisions of my life over to somebody else. Oh, fuck no. Right? Why would you do that? Well, I did once or twice, OK? Oh my god, yeah. So you know, but I also understood, OK, yeah. Once you come out of it, you understand why you were there. You find the gift in it. It doesn't make it wrong or right. It makes it something to grow from. Yes, exactly. And detach emotionally from because if you don't detach emotionally from it, it's going to keep riddling you in your body because your body's keeping a score on that. you're keeping the fire of dysfunction going instead of the fire of inspiration. love that. That's gonna get quoted. That's gonna be one of our videos that goes on social media. Thank you. ah Maria, thank you so unbelievably much. As this goes out into the world, people will be able to sign up for spiral dance. You guys, the link for getting into spiral dance will be in the show notes. If you are going, okay, this is for me and it's a full hell yes in your body, just go. And if you're on the fence, Reach out to me, reach out to Maria. Both of our contact information are in the show notes. Ask the questions that are burning in you to find out whether this is for you or not A lot of the self-paced stuff comes with philosophy, comes with stories, comes with the need to take the time to read it. Yep. Yeah. And it's worth reading. And it's great to have the clan leaders to disentangle some of the things, because you do blend some things sometimes. But that blending is just the information coming out and knowing like, okay, this is something I need to know now, but I don't have to do now. And that right there was something I loved learning from my clan leader, because she was just like, okay, this is just a knowledge drop. You will use this later. Yeah, we're setting the stage so you understand later. All right, Maria. Thank you so much for being on Gutsy Chick podcast with me. Love you. Love you too!

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