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294- The Bible predicted what Trump is unknowingly setting in motion with Dr. Bob Thiel

Elias Marty Season 7 Episode 24

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Dr. Bob Thiel discusses how Donald Trump's policies and actions are unintentionally aligning with biblical prophecies about the end times. He presents a balanced view that acknowledges both positive and problematic aspects of Trump's approach while explaining the prophetic significance of current global developments.

• Dr. Thiel's background includes military service, scientific publications, and extensive theological study
• Trump's push for increased European military spending may inadvertently fulfill prophecies about Europe becoming a military power
• Trump's tariff policies are causing nations to form new trade alliances, potentially creating the prophesied end-time trading system
• Gold prices hitting record highs after Trump's election, fulfilling a prediction in Dr. Thiel's book based on biblical prophecies
• The comparison between Trump and Cyrus the Great has limitations - Trump isn't prophesied by name and doesn't rule over Israel
• Technology developments are enabling prophesied control of buying and selling through digital currencies and ID verification
• Media bias on both sides prevents Americans from seeing the full picture of current events
• Biblical prophecies about knowledge increasing and information control are being fulfilled through internet censorship
• The growing national debt under multiple administrations aligns with warnings in the book of Habakkuk

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Introduction to Dr. Bob Thiel

Speaker 1

welcome everyone to politically high tech with your host , elias . Uh yes , for those who love newcomers , I keep bringing them or something , even coming to me . I mean , I look , I just go by why I think who I think is great . I have to reject some of them because some of them want to promote kiddie stuff . This is not a kiddie kind of podcast . Nope , not for fashion design . Nope . How is house interior design ? Nope , even though I need that help personally . But nope , not for the audience .

Speaker 1

I'd rather share politics , tech and development , and development in this podcast just means anything that can elevate humanity in a productive , positive way and that obviously , obviously does include the great god . You know god , jesus , and I've included some of the religions from time to time . You know , I was raised as a christian because that's the one I am most familiar with , but we are going to mix at least two of them together , actually possibly even three . So this could be a great mesh of three of the major , major topics definitely the geopolitics , you know , history , all of that , and even the development . We we are gonna add some god . For those of you who get easily offended by god , that's a you problem . God is ready , you're not ready , okay , and we're gonna mix in some tech . All I know is I'm not gonna go through my history .

Speaker 1

I kind of went through that , some of the past episodes . You figure out what is what I already just told . One of the last tech episodes I was already released at the oldest internet I know was aol , the you got mail thing . Yes , I'm aging myself just a teeny bit . Just a teeny bit hurts a little bit , but enough about me . And we're not going to get to all of that as much .

Speaker 1

I might compare it . You know I don't . You know I might break that promise . I'm going to be honest , I might break it . I'm going to break . You know promises are meant to be broken . Yes , cynics , you might get your victory here , but I got a very , very accomplished . Um guess , and trust me , he has his own library , to his own . I'm telling , especially when plugging that website , start checking it out . He has a library you want to check in god politics , I connects the two . Very well , look no further further . We have Dr Bob Thiel and before we get started , feel free to introduce yourself . And what do you want the audience , the listeners , the viewers , to know about ?

Speaker 2

you , let's see . So , as far as things that are relevant , I was raised in Michigan , went to the military . That's when I moved to California . I'm coming to you now from California . The reason I went to the military is I's when I moved to California . I'm coming to you now from California . The reason I went to the military is I didn't want to go to college . Now I've got 12 or 14 years of college .

Speaker 2

I'm a published scientist , a theologian . I've written a lot of books . As far as with the current president , I've actually written two books . I wrote one that came out just before he came into office the first time and world events lined up with at least 22 things in that book that I predicted or had warned about , and then , currently , a couple of days before he became president , the second time I put out this book , and one of the reasons I want to pull this up is how can I put this ? I'm not a Republican or a Democrat and I'm not encouraging you to vote one way or the other . I don't vote . All right .

Speaker 2

The book is called Unintended Consequences in Donald Trump's Presidency . Some of you listening probably can't stand Trump . Anything about Trump If it's not horrible , you don't want to hear it Others . If it's not positive toward Trump , you don't want to hear it . I'm not trying to be pro or con Donald Trump . What I do say , and that's why it's called Unintended Consequences is that Donald Trump has done things , will do things and that will affect the world . Which people agree with that part , but there are also things that align with prophecies , and so , basically , one of the things , what I want the listeners to get out of this , is that actually , despite nonsense , you'll read at Wikipedia and , by the way , I was an editor for Wikipedia , in fact , the last time I edited was probably last year , but I was a more serious editor for Wikipedia like 30 years ago but they'll put stuff on there and if you do a Google search , first thing that comes up is Wikipedia almost all the time , even though it's not it , because it seems to be biased toward Wikipedia . And you go to Wikipedia and they'll discount certain things and it's nonsense . And I don't want to spend a lot of time going through some of the specifics , but I'll just give one .

Speaker 2

I wasn't planning on talking about this , just thought of it . Like , for example , if you go to Wikipedia's article about the Exodus , all right , it says the Exodus is the founding myth of the Israelite people because it was supposed to happen around the year 1250 BC , bce , and there's no evidence it happened then . Therefore , this is just nonsense . They just made this stuff up . Okay , now that's what the Wikipedia article says . Now it's got one little small part in there that says now there are some who think it happened perhaps around 1446 BCE , but that's discounted . So that's all they say . Now , again , I wasn't here to talk about the Exodus , but it'll set the stage , okay . Well , it turns out there actually is evidence of the Exodus backing up a couple hundred years before . Okay , and they'll tell you there's no Egyptian evidence on it . That's nonsense .

Speaker 2

I don't know if any of your listeners have ever watched the Ten Commandments movie , the old one with Charlton Heston . You got the different plagues and all this kind of stuff happening , right , because those are in the book of Exodus . Well , it turns out there's an Egyptian document called the Ipuwer Papyrus that actually talks about the same kinds of stuff that happened to the Egyptians that the Bible said . But you go to Wikipedia , it discounts it . And again , I'm not here to bash Wikipedia , because it does have a lot of good stuff in it too .

Speaker 2

But what I do want people to realize is don't fall for this nonsense . Well , it's all debunked . No , it's not . There's no proof . Well , actually there is . And it's interesting because I've seen editing biases and when I first started to volunteer for Wikipedia , they said that you have no point of view . It was mostly just the facts , and I found out if I cited facts from like the second century , like 1800 years ago , pull them out . So , wait a second , that was a fact . That wasn't my opinion because I didn't agree with their narrative , but anyway , that's a long introduction to this .

Speaker 2

But as far as Donald Trump now , some of your listeners won't agree with what I'm about to say I think he thinks that what he's doing is best for the country . Now , yes , I think he does what he thinks is best for himself , okay . Now , yes , I think he does what he thinks is best for himself . Ok , just to start off with that . But I don't think he thinks that things he's doing are bad for the country , or , if they are , he thinks it's just a minor thing and things will get better . And he thinks he's just right about everything . Of course , no human is right about everything .

Trump's Unintended Consequences Book

Speaker 1

I hate to say this , elias neither me or you are actually going to be right about everything . Oh yeah , no , this is . I was going to be clear . Feel free to even go off top with the Wikipedia , because I'm sure it's going to connect . I trust you , so don't worry about that . And this is not a pro or anti-Trump kind of podcast . I have pro-Trump and anti-Trump people on my show , so this is not a safe space for either camp . I'm anti-save space for either camp .

Speaker 2

I'm anti-save space by the way , but see my point , though in writing . What I've done is to show that some of the policies he proposed before he came in office I mean , he was pretty clear about certain things he was going to do . That's why I was able to get this book out a couple of days before he came into office All right , and basically he's doing things that are aligning with biblical prophecies , but he doesn't have a clue that that's what he's doing . For example , we'll go back to his first term in office and his current term in office . His first term in office , he goes out and says look , there's this thing called NATO . There's like 27 , 20 or 30 countries in NATO . Now there's more now , but whatever it is , and the United States spends more money on its military than all the other countries put together times three , and overall , by the way , those other back then it was 27 , 28 countries . They have a bigger economy than the United States does . So he looks at this and says this isn't fair , this isn't right . Okay , and as a taxpaying American citizen , I can understand why he would bring that up . Okay , so he gets the Europeans upset , gets them to try to spend a little bit more money on defense . That works a little bit . Then there's Russia's special military operation to Ukraine . That was started just over three years ago . That scares the Europeans Well . And then what scared them again was Donald Trump being reelected .

Speaker 2

Last week there was a NATO conference . They've agreed not to the 2% that Donald Trump told them they should spend of their gross national product on the military . Well , supposedly well , actually , they did . Whether they do it or not is another matter . They've actually agreed to spend 5% , which is like three times as much or four times as much , five times as much as a lot of more spending on their militaries by the year 2035 , I think it was Now , as it turns out in Donald Trump's second term of office . Instead of United States spending three times as much as all of them put together , we only spend two times as much as all of them put together .

Speaker 2

All right , but now they're going to spend more money . Oh , do you have any children ? No , okay , all right , if you have kids and they live with you , they're kind of supposed to do what you want them to do , more or less . But you know what happens when they start to get money , their own money , particularly if they earn it , they seem to think they can spend it the way they want . Well , what's this got to do with Europe and Donald Trump ? Well , you're telling these Europeans they got to spend more on their military .

Speaker 2

They're also telling the Europeans , by the way , that we're going to put all kinds of tariffs on you , because Trump said the tariff was like the most beautiful word in English language , or some nonsense like that . I don't agree . Tariffs are the most beautiful word , but I can see them as a negotiating tactic . Okay , that part I get , all right . So you got the Europeans and we're telling the Europeans , by the way , we're going to charge you 25% tariffs on your cars , which are one of your biggest exports , and you need to spend 5% of your gross national product on military . So you know what the head of Volkswagen said several weeks ago , a month or two ago . He said , by the way , we made military things before World War II . Okay , we can do it again .

Speaker 2

So one of the things that the Europeans are doing is one they say they're going to increase military spending , but they also would like to figure out how to spend more domestically instead of buying it all from the United States . So what we're starting to do is to enable Europe to become a military power on its own , because when they're spending their own money and they've got a lot more weapons , they're probably going to decide how they want to use them too . So the reason that is an unintended consequence is again I understand President Trump's logic for why he wants them to spend the money . I can understand the United States . We've been subsidizing Europe , if you will , for decades . That's one of the reasons they've had the ability to have , generally speaking , greater social benefits than in this country .

Speaker 2

But when they do this , the Bible warns about the Book of Revelation , talk about a prophecy . The Book of Revelation talks about this beast that rises from the sea , and it says that this beast had a deadly wound . So in other words , it looks like it was eliminated . Well , if you've looked through the last century or so , you can see Germany rose up a couple of times , got other people involved , had a couple of world wars . They lost both of them . So it seems like Europe suffered a mortal wound and who would pay any attention to them ? But the Bible then says people are going to finally say who is like this European beast and who can make war with him because he's become militarily successful , and that's a prophecy . It has not happened yet . Okay , but that's out there Now for your listeners who

Europe's Military Build-Up and Prophecy

Speaker 2

might be biblically inclined . Some people say well , how do you know ? That's got to be Europe . This is something I'm sure President Trump does not know . Maybe someone told him once , but I don't think he would know or understand .

Speaker 2

It Turns out in the book of Daniel in the Old Testament . The book of Revelation is the last book of the New Testament . In the Old Testament , the Hebrew scriptures Hebrew and Aramaic actually for this book . In the seventh chapter of the book of Daniel , daniel sees a vision of this beast , and this beast rises out of the Great Sea . Now , as it turns out , other parts of the Bible tell you that the Great Sea is the sea that bordered what we would call Israel-Palestine these days , including Gaza and that sea happens to be the Mediterranean Sea . Now , I've been to the Mediterranean Sea a bunch of times and unfortunately , like the Pacific Ocean , it's normally cold . Okay , unlike the East Coast , where your water warms up more in the summer . Ours doesn't warm up so much . But anyway , the great sea is the mediterranean sea according to the bible , and so when we talk about the beast that rises from the sea is the mediterranean sea . If you look throughout a map , right now , all the northern part of the mediterranean sea is controlled by europe powers . You've got Israel on the side and then you've got North Africa below it . But even North Africa , most of it , was part of the old Roman Empire thousands of years ago , and this beast is supposed to arise in one that Daniel saw .

Speaker 2

Most prophecy interpreters will say that one of those beasts was the Roman Empire . Okay , so it's not something unique for me , for your listeners . So , anyway , what this has to do with all this stuff is that we are enabling the rise of a power that will one day , in my view , turn against the United States , based upon some other prophecies , and this is one thing that's being enabled unknowingly , and so that's one of the things . Now I don't know again how well many of your listeners know about certain prophetic things , but in the Bible it talks about some power called Mystery Babylon , the Great end time Babylon , daughter of Babylon , not ancient Babylon that Saddam Hussein thought he was putting back together . By the way , he did think he was putting it back together . He actually had bricks made with his imprint on it because he thought he was going to restore Babylon , but that's not the one the Bible was talking about .

Speaker 2

Anyway , the Bible says it will become a great trading power and it will help dominate the world in terms of trade and the merchants of the world become wealthy by trading with this Babylon . It's mentioned in Chapter 17 and 18 of the book of Revelation . But what does this have to do with Donald Trump ? I mentioned tariffs . Now it turns out Donald Trump put tariffs on everybody , some more than others , but tariffs nonetheless . Well , if you're trading with the United States and I'm trading with the United States for sake of argument , we won't be Americans . If we think our trade is going to get hurt , you know , we might decide to talk to each other . Could be . You know , there's an expression the enemy of your enemy is your friend .

Speaker 2

Now , the morning after Donald Trump was reelected , I posted at the COGwritercom website one of the news posts I made . I posted that , because of Donald Trump's reelection , that I believe the Europeans would move on what they call the Mercosur deal . For your listeners , this is a deal that's been dragging on forever and it's a deal involving the European Union and the Mercosur bloc of nations in South America . They are Argentina , brazil , paraguay , uruguay , maybe one or two others are getting involved with that . So it's supposed to be a massive deal , but Europeans didn't go for it because , basically , the farmers in France are like , wait a second , we're going to get undercut by those South Americans . We don't want this deal . Well , a month to the day actually after the morning after Donald Trump was reelected , the Europeans approved it , even though the French are complaining now . They still got a couple more hurdles to go , but they've approved it . Couple more hurdles to go , but they've approved it .

Speaker 2

And one of the things that the president of the European Commission , the European Union's top leader as far as we is called the European Commission president Her name is Ursula von der Leyen and one of the things that she made a comment on was about these tariffs and what's going to happen because of them . Now the European Union , by the way , has 449 plus million people that are in it . Ursula goes out and says to Trump more or less by the way , there's another 150 million people , at least their countries want to become part of us . So you know , that's like you know , 600 million people . It's kind of like double what you guys have . And she says and she made a comment that sounded like Trump said and my phone's been ringing off the hook all the time All these countries want to make a deal with us , and so one of the unintended consequences of promoting tariffs is the fact that we are seeing the Europeans getting more serious about making deals . Matter of fact , ursula went over to India after Trump got in again to work on a deal . They've been sitting on with India for a zillion years .

Speaker 2

So one of the things Donald Trump is doing he's motivating this trade combine to develop that the Bible warns is going to happen . It's not here yet , ok , to quote Jesus Matthew 24 , 60 , and it's not yet OK . So I'm not telling everybody OK , it's all over to tomorrow , nothing like that , all right . But I am saying that we're starting to see things align with that , and so that's one of the many unintended consequences of Donald Trump's trade policies . Now I understand , by the way , why the United States would use tariffs and some other things .

Speaker 2

We do get taken advantage of by other countries . For example , we're supposed to have this . We had NAFTA , and we're also supposed to have something else that Donald Trump redid between the United States , mexico and Canada . I'm only going to talk about Canada for a moment Now . With Canada , it turns out I'm very familiar with nutritional supplements . I'm a nutritional supplement company . We sell to healthcare professionals . It turns out Canadians can sell all their stuff in the United States , but we can't sell our stuff over there . We can , but we've got to jump through lots of hoops and when we tried some years ago , canadian government never even responded . So we gave up

Trade Policies and Biblical Babylon

Speaker 2

and it's amazing . So I understand why , even though this is not something that Donald Trump is going to try to work on I don't think but there are non-tariff trade barriers that shouldn't be there and I understand his desire to fix that . And again would like you know , they'd like more Fathers made in the United States . I can understand Donald Trump's motivations , but the end result is that you're talking about people who are getting upset and trying to make other deals with others . So the Europeans and the Canadians , by the way , met to try to come up with some other way that they can trade better , just to use that as another example . And so if you get enough countries going in that direction , it will affect the United States and again , I think it's biblically prophesied .

Speaker 2

So those are just a couple of things that were in the book , the easiest one . Here's an easy one . I wrote gold will hit . Well , excuse me , I'm going to read it verbatim Gold will set records in US dollar terms . Gold will set further in US dollar terms . Gold will set further records in US dollar terms in the relatively near future is what I wrote . That was published January 16th . You can check it at Amazon , okay , and that was in that book .

Speaker 2

And whether your listeners have paid any attention to the price of gold , I don't remember how much it's up now , but it's up a lot , okay , 20% , 30% , more than 10 percent anyway , from when he came in office . Now , why did I make that prediction ? Because I'm a gold bug or whatever ? No , is the Bible saying about gold ? Actually , yes , there's prophecies in the book of Daniel that says that this European leader who's going to rise up is going to have a lot of gold . He's going to accumulate gold , so that tells me it's going to have value . I mentioned before about the book of Revelation . It talks about the merchants of the world who got rich through trading with this Babylon , and one of the things they mentioned was gold . Now , what that tells me is that gold is going to have some value for some period of time . Now I don't know . I'm not saying it's always going to go up . It might be going down right now as we talk , I don't know , Although I think the markets are closed . At least the US markets are closed . Okay , maybe somewhere in Asia . That was a prediction based upon the Bible and I felt that certain policies from Donald Trump would lead to that .

Speaker 2

Give another example I told you I wrote this other book about Donald Trump before back . It came out in January 2017 . And I was doing a radio . I was a guest on a radio program and it might have been out of Louisiana . It was one of the southern states to host and we were going through because at that time , I think because Trump had been in office for I don't know , 100 days plus or minus , and I said , like you know , some things in my book are already happening and others are going to happen , and the host agreed with me on all of them except for one .

Speaker 2

I said the United States is going to increase its debt , its official debt , under Donald Trump , and he's like , oh no , he's going to solve that problem . Well , turns out , you can blame it on COVID , you can blame it on Donald Trump , you can blame it on the US political system . Whatever you want to blame it on , the debt went up and Biden-Harris administration . The debt went up . Now , of course , it had gone up in the Obama-Biden administration and it started to accelerate in the last Bush administration . As it turns out , donald Trump is proposing something called the . He calls it the big , beautiful bill Pass . The Senate , the House , still have to figure out how they're going to reconcile this , but whether it goes through or not , it has a debt going up , about $3 trillion more than it would have done so otherwise . Now to defend the president for a moment . I believe that there are more positive effects of some of the things that he's proposed than the mainstream tells you . That being said , I still think the debt will go up .

Speaker 2

Now , as far as the mainstream , though , if you don't mind , I was watching CNN last night and there was a guy who I guess and I don't remember his name he was , let's call him pro-Trump a guest , and I don't remember his name , let's call him pro-Trump , and he was picking on a CNN panelist because the last time Trump had a tax bill that went through , she and some others , made various comments that were not right . For example , he said it was a tax break on the rich and the rich were going to pay less taxes . This was going to be bad on everybody . So this guy says , well , no , the amount of taxes for the rich went up , and so he tried to bring all this stuff up and instead of acknowledging her error , instead she said , well , but that one's different than this one because this one's going to hurt poor people or regular people or whatever term , and it's like .

Speaker 2

I don't like it . It's terrible . All of your listeners , any of you , watch cable news , and I don't care if it's on the left or on the right . I actually watch both , and the amount of bias on both sides is insane .

Speaker 1

Let me interject just a second . This is why I push ground news all sides , because we want more fair . I mean , I lean into the center personally and I watch even both medias just to see what the bias is Was the left wing's bias , the right wing's bias and sometimes the center got its bias to the center . The main source I always cite is like News Nation , that's like the most center it's going to be , and of course you know the left CNN and the right is Fox News . There's many other examples , but I always push those news . There's many other examples , but I always push those , even the new paper , because you're more unbiased or at least get an aggregate source or a collection of it . Okay , 17 of the left is reporting this , only 40 of the center and another 40 some percent on the right . That's definitely not 100 . I'm bad at math . I major in history , not a map , so deal with it . If you use the comment section just to express how much better you are me , me , on math , I'll be perfectly fine . You're not going to affect me emotionally . I'm just going to give you a thumbs up and say good for you . But all seriousness , this is why I do what I do Because , look , my logo is purple for a reason , left right even . Green rainbow , whatever the heck your color is . You're welcome to join this podcast .

Speaker 1

I'm trying to expose my voice to different points of view , different religions , different . All this is not . I hate safe space . We need to get rid of that . To me , I think it's anti-American . I know that's useful . Left and right got their own version of safe space as well .

Speaker 1

No , so that's all I'm going to say , just just , I think it was a perfect time . It was a little silent there . Normally I don't . I don't promote that right in the middle of the episode , but I just . This is why I promote the stuff that I do , because the bias , just like you said , it's ridiculous on both sides of that . I perfectly agree . You're not going to get an argument out of me on that one , but I'm just going to get a thumbs up for those of you who are listening to the audio . I'm giving two thumbs up to our guests here . You see , this is why I make sure to accept good guests like this one here . It's not butt kissing . I just know . I just know .

Speaker 1

My gut even told me even before I did the research and all that I said , oh yeah , I'll just do the research just to confirm . But all right , um , and yeah , this is why you need to look into more sources . You think cnn is going to help you , or fox news even sometimes I mean news station kind of does , but news station even got his mind because sometimes they focus on celebrity garbage and that doesn't necessarily help you either , and it's been . And I'm sad to say there's studies now confirming that if you pay attention to celebrity news , your IQ goes down . I didn't need a study to confirm that . I just talk to people every day , the ones who are obsessed with celebrities . They're not the brightest people , and I'm trying to be nice here , but I'm trying to , okay , calm down my neuroaggression . They're not the brightest people , they're not .

Speaker 1

But anyways , before I go on this long tangent , let me just just I want to derail this . So far , dr bob field's been on the amazing track . I had to want to derail that . I just almost did . Um , feel free to express that . It is a good thing or bad thing . You know , that's what the comment section is there for . I welcome , you know , welcome your opinion , whether you like me or not . So that's all I'm gonna say about that .

Speaker 1

But you said a lot of valuable stuff so it's so hard to question . You see , I do understand some of the trump thing . I do agree that the trade practices have been unfair . Um , social , free united states . You've always been overly generous , overly naive or just passive and weak on the trade . That's why I understand some of the nato stuff . I don't agree with dismantling nato but I do get where he's coming from there . That one always been pretty supportive of trump .

Speaker 1

But the tariff thing , I'm just personally I have not been a fan of it because I just think it was too aggressive , too overboard , too simplified . I know he had different percentages for different countries and different goods . I'm not going to get into that , I'll just find a massive link one day . You just want to read through his details . I don't know Canadian steel , I'm just going to make up a bad example 15% . I don't know Japanese food 30% . It's just made up , okay . And I'm not going to get into the whole nitty-gritty because , trust me , that will be a five-hour podcast and we will all fall asleep going through those details . Okay , we don't got that kind of attention span here . But I just say the tariff thing . But I don't know .

Speaker 1

There's some victories coming along , but I don't know how impactful it's going to be in what's going to be short-term or long-term . It Hackful is going to be in what's ? Is it going to be short term or long term ? You know it's too soon to say . If it's going to be positive , maybe there's methods to madness , maybe I'm naive , I don't know . Trump is a chaos . You know he . He's unpredictable . He's a wild card . On purpose , yeah , yeah , on purpose , yeah , I mean , if you know his background and he's been involved with wwe and entertainment , this is what they thrive on and the art of the deal . All this . This is .

Speaker 1

If you read some of this , you have some and I'm gonna have to say some understanding of trump's . You can say either genius or madness , whatever you want to call it . At least you have some idea . You ain't gonna reveal everything the chaos and all that's gonna still go . It's gonna , it's gonna throw you off even if you read that . But at least you have some idea . I mean you can predict some things correctly . It'll ease you just a bit .

Speaker 1

Not that I want to push this book , but I read some of this . You'll be an interesting president . For better or worse . I think you'll be a mixed bag . But whatever , enough of me bashing and praising Trump at the same time , because I'm not the biggest supporter , nor I am the biggest hater of trump . I see the good and the bad , you know , and so does the guess . Okay , and he's not pro or anti-chump and we shouldn't be any of those things . We should be pro-america , if anything .

Speaker 1

Forget the dems and the republicans , because you pick those camps , you lower your iq point by I'll say 30 , because you just go their narrative , their bias , their point of view and listen . They both , they both are kooky , they both are crazy . All right , they , I will call them , even though the corporate , corrupt unit party corporations support both those parties . I think some things don't change . Doesn't matter who's in charge . It's not conspiracy theory . See who funds them . I put opensourcecom . See who funds the parties . Sometimes it's one , it's some megadons . That funds both parties . I think some agendas don't change . Okay , that's all I'm going to say .

Speaker 1

All right , I'm going to let you talk because hopefully you have an amazing streak here .

Trump vs. Cyrus the Great

Speaker 1

I think I ruined it . Deal with it . This is your host here , okay , well , I , you , I could deal with the hate . I'll be happy . This is my own decision . I'll live with it . I own it and you could crucify me in the comment section . You two might cancel you , but not me . I believe in freedom of speech and then I'll put this on rumble , where you're not going to be canceled as much eventually .

Speaker 1

So the only question I got and you won't be the first to compare trump to this character I will call him a flawed good intention character and I'm sure he's gonna see us from my way . Cyrus to great . They compare trump to this guy . First of all , I'm going to be extra analytical , critical . Is that a correct , is that a good comparison ? And then how ? And then how is not a good comparison ? I'm just trying to get a deeper understanding because I have heard other theologians say Trump is like Cyrus the Great . He does some flawed things but he has good intentions . There's some good and bad results that come out of him . You already talked about some of the policies , but people have been comparing him to Cyrus the Great , especially among certain church communities .

Speaker 2

Well , and the whole Cyrus thing . That actually came up when he was running the first time . An evangelical Protestant brought it up , but once he came in , actually over in Israel , the group called the Sanhedrin actually put out coins that had Donald Trump's head and Cyrus the Great on it , and a rabbi last week or the week before actually went out and again said why he thinks Trump is Cyrus the Great , and some Protestant writers have said the same thing . I don't know if you know , but actually the last YouTube video I made was is Donald Trump Cyrus the Great ? So this is a topic I am familiar with . I can understand why people make some of the comparisons , comparisons but there's a few really different things . One , the bible doesn't say there's gonna be a second cyrus the great , but for specifically for cyrus the great , he was actually prophesied by name . Okay , so before he came in , uh , uh , he was prophesied that he was going to come and in the book of ezra said that , uh , cyrus the Great fulfilled various things that were predicted . This happened 2,400 , 2,500 years ago . Now some , on the other hand , have taken this to another step and said well , trump is prophesied by name in the Bible , he is the Trump of God . That's really a stretch for lots of reasons . So I don't accept that . But the difference with Cyrus ? Cyrus the Great told the children of Israel they go back to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple , and so they did . He also went and he gave them the implements of the temple that the Persian Empire had . They'd gotten them because they invaded . They had it , so they let them go back and build that , and so those were . So , because Donald Trump is pro-Israel , people have said , well , he's not an Israelite , well , he's not a Jew . Let's just say that they consider him a Gentile and that he made this positive thing for them and that's a good thing . So Cyrus did something positive . So in that way , I suppose he's similar .

Speaker 2

Others have gone so far as to predict that when he was in office last time , that he was going to authorize which he can't really do the construction of a third temple in Jerusalem . Okay , oh yeah , there are predictions about that and people thought , because Trump came in , that they'll build a third temple in Jerusalem and that's not required by scripture . I know there's a bunch of Protestant prophecy watchers who think it's required . It's actually not required . But that gets back to the Cyrus the great thing .

Speaker 2

And as far as the Bible and this third temple kind of an idea , the Bible only requires that you have an altar to be able to do sacrifices . So what's that got to do with anything ? In the book of Daniel , four places it talks about sacrifices being stopped and it's not referring to what happened when the temple got destroyed in 70 AD . It says it's for the appointed time of the end . And that wasn't the time of the end . That was the end of the old temple , but that isn't the time of the end . All right , so people know . Well then they've got to sacrifice . So they have to have a temple . No , all they need is an altar . And in the book of Ezra , chapter three , verse six , it specifically says that they sacrificed on an altar , but they hadn't built a new temple yet . They finally did , but they didn't have one then . So that's one thing people kind of get off .

Speaker 2

And also , when Trump technically does not run the nation of Israel , cyrus the Great did run ancient Israel . They were part of his empire . The United States has a lot of influence over Israel and you might make the argument . Reality was Cyrus could put in his troops there . Trump hasn't done that to Israel , and we don't anticipate him doing that . So there's several ways that he's different , and including the fact that he was not prophesied by name to rise up Now . That being said , the Bible says God puts in whoever he wants . Okay , so I think there are prophetic reasons that Donald Trump is in office , but not that he's Cyrus the Great .

Speaker 1

Oh , that's a very well thought out explanation . I'm not surprised . I was gonna get something like that . That's why I asked it . You know I love what people give comparisons , but they try to mold that comparison , make it seem exactly the same . That's that bias . East president , united states is influenced , but cyrus actually did had , it's true . Is your part of empire that ? That is a distinction that needs to be made and those times were different . I'm sure there's the look , there's some similarities , but you know , some people just forget the differences and just choose just to wash it out . So we should make the analogy fit perfectly in our official way . That's like trying to shove a circle to a square peg and just mold , use clay just to try to fill it up . It looks hideous and tacky . That's what they , some people , do with their knowledge . That's why I have to ask that . Um , it's not original , but I actually like the explanation to it because it's well thought out . You know , I like well thought out . You want some explanations , some of your audience . So you want abc expedition .

Speaker 1

Oh , donald trump is exactly like cyrus the great and wrong . Love the explanation . You . You just , I don't know , have a drink or something , I don't know , just don't listen to this podcast because I'll be happy to disappoint you . I'll actually take a great thrill of that , alright , and me , I said this is like the third theologian .

Speaker 1

I've heard that comparison and they say , yeah , he was flawed like Cyrus , he did some unintentional bad things , but yeah , he helped . Flawed like cyrus , he did some unintentional bad things , but yet he helped out the israelites . Yeah , yeah , see , I can see that similarity great influence , of course , except donald trump is not a emperor that's conquering multiple nations , and I'm sure if that was the case , the world and the un will be in the uproar . We already do some things in the UN that causes a major uproar . We don't have to think deep . There's the Israel and Iran conflict Things with Israel . That's already a major controversy .

Speaker 1

I'm not going to dig too deep into that because , for once , you know , look , I know some people's opinion of the whole genocide thing and all that , and I agree it is a genocide , of what's going on there , but at the same time , I don't want to condemn all the Israelites either . So that's the position I make . I think they all , they need to . You know they need to exist . They're God's children , you know , and you know it's , it's , it's tough , tough . I don't know what's the solution to that . I'm just a guy that's just yelling at the mic and at my computer screen . I don't know , but they , they're , they're human beings . That's just my . That's just my perspective . I'm not . Some people can say I'm left on that . But no , I'm not going to condemn all israeli , I condemn the government . I'll criticize the government , but not , not , not the people . Even the people protest against it . That's the nuanced perspective , you know . And , and israel has um arab citizens

Media Bias and Information Control

Speaker 1

, you know , in their things . So are they all evil ? No , it's just very .

Speaker 2

Yeah , feel free to chime in well , I was gonna say on the whole peace thing , you know , donald trump has made proposals called the abraham acc , and he may be involved and come up with a peace deal . The Bible actually prophesies that there's going to be a peace deal over there . Now , what's interesting is , while I rely on biblical prophecies , islamic prophecies say the same thing . Both biblical and Islamic prophecies , by the way , say there's going to be a seven-year deal between a European leader and a Muslim leader . Now , the Bible doesn't call him a Muslim leader . The Bible calls that person the king of the south . It tells us this includes Egypt , libya , north Africa Places are Muslim , okay , that are predominantly Muslim Islam , the followers of Islam . So that's something he may get involved in and he tried to do something before . I suspect , however , though , we may see Iran react against Israel before we see a deal like that , but there is a temporary peace deal that is prophesied . But getting back to prophecy , both the Bible , in the book of Daniel , chapter nine , and the Islamic prophecy says that the deal is going to be broken in the middle of it . So a European guy is going to confirm a deal it could be Donald Trump's deal , right , but the Bible just says there's somebody in Europe , who's not the top person , who's going to confirm a deal . Islamic prophecy says a European leader is going to make a deal and after three and a half years he's going to break the deal . And that's both in Islam and in the Old Testament , what we call the Old Testament of the Bible . So those are some things that could happen and so we could see a temporary peace deal in the Middle East . So that's something that may happen if Donald Trump may be involved with that .

Speaker 2

But one thing you had mentioned before in a previous segment I was going to comment on , and that is like 45 or 50 years ago I used to watch ABC , cbs , nbc News on a fairly regular basis . Right One day we had a couple of TVs . My roommate had an extra TV and I noticed that almost all the same stories were on all three of those networks and I thought that's a strange coincidence . I mean , there were some stories that were all very , very similar and you mentioned the difference between Fox and CNN and there's other ones . You know MSNBC , newsmax , whatever , oan News and whatever .

Speaker 2

But what I actually do in the morning , in the typical morning , by 6 am California time I've actually scanned 300 or so headlines every day . And then I make three posts a day , by the way , at the cogridercom website . And the reason I'm bringing this out not a shameless plug , but this will be a shameless plug C-O-G-W-R-I-T-E-R-I-C-O-M . But no , the reason I'm bringing it up is , like this morning on the regular news sources it didn't tell you much about the fact that Russia has now claimed it's now total control of an area called Luhansk . But it wasn't really covered and it may be on some other news . But because I looked at hundreds , I saw two places that mentioned it and so I wrote about it this morning .

Speaker 2

Because that's the only thing that we see is there's an information overload and some places we only want to cover these stories , or we only want to cover , if it looks this way , story . Fortunately the Internet isn't totally censored yet . They're working on it , by the way . They want to do it . By the way , just as a warning , I believe the Bible prophesies control over the Internet in a couple of different places , both the Old Testament and the New Testament . Both places You're going to have a problem with information . The Bible actually prophesies knowledge will be increased in the end times . That's happening . But it also says we're going to see a famine of the word , which I think is going to be censorship . You've got the issue now with the news One . They can only cover so much .

Speaker 2

Two , I haven't seen any news network that's not biased . Now , I'm like you . I also do watch News Nation . Last I watched NewsNation was last night . I haven't watched it today yet . It's a little too early for me here , but the hosts are definitely biased .

Speaker 2

And I'll pick on one . For no good reason , chris Cuomo tries to pretend he's not biased and he's not as biased as he used to be , but he still is . And lately I can't remember his last name he gives it a V . He tries not to be biased , but he's definitely biased on the right , whereas Cuomo is still biased on the left . But at least those guys are making an effort , whereas you watch MSNBC or Newsmax . We'll just use those two . There's not much of an effort usually , but anyway . Getting back to prophecies and such , you know Donald Trump . The other thing he's doing is he's showing the Europeans , by the way , what happens when you have we'll call him a strongman type leader . I know some people say Trump is a phony and all this kind of stuff and I assume you're familiar with the term taco .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , I'm very familiar . Yeah , on the recent context .

Speaker 2

Yeah , there's recent context .

Speaker 1

It's not taco food people , no , not taco food .

Speaker 2

Taco stands for Trump always chickens out . Now that was somebody from the left saying that Now he just bombed Iran , which suggested that he didn't always chicken out . He had Israel bomb Iran before that , which suggests the same thing . I'm not commenting about that . But my point was Trump didn't chicken out .

Speaker 2

Europeans are seeing this and they've got—you think the United States is bureaucratic ? Europe's got it worse . And there's a biblical prophecy in the book of revelation , chapter 17 , verses 12 and 13 , that says essentially , europe is going to reorganize now . Right now , you got 27 countries in the eu 28 or so but are close . There's another half a dozen or so want to get in and the bible says you risk your reorganization there into 10 . Okay , so they want to manage that . But then it says those 10 , we don't know if they plan it early or it's too difficult to work with the other nine they decide to give their power to that guy . I told you about the ones . The beast arises from the sea , and you can read that in Revelation 17 , 13 .

Technology Growth and Prophetic Fulfillment

Speaker 2

And I suspect that one of the unintended consequences of Donald Trump trying to act like a strong man is the Europeans are going to say you know , we didn't like Donald Trump for this , this , this , this and this , but he got some stuff done . Okay , we don't want somebody like Trump , but we kind of want a strong leader and that's in the prophet . You know , that's prophesied and you know I'm not blaming the president for being what he is . I wish he wouldn't exaggerate , like , for example , when he talked about the US bombing of the nuclear facilities and he said it was totally obliterated , everything . I didn't believe him . I believe that's what he hoped , but I said how do you know ? Stuff's underground ? It's going to take time and even then the United States isn't over there . How do we know ? And again , I don't think it was totally obliterated . I wish he would not have said that . And also , according to a report I read , the Iranians got rid of their enriched uranium before it happened , so they still have it . So , while I do think it had an effect , I wish the president would be more precise in his terms and not exaggerate .

Speaker 2

I think that causes people on the middle and the right to not trust him and those on the left to say , look , you can't trust him . I hate to say this . I knew it was Trump being Trump , but that's really not acceptable . It doesn't matter who he is , who you are you're supposed to tell the truth . But the other thing that he's doing by making some of the comments and one of the things he said is look , I want to deal with this European nation and that one . I don't want you to deal with all you together . What he's doing is he's bringing them closer together because they've got a rule in Europe , by the way , on trade . All the same , you can't play this game because they know what would happen . So the more he does that , the more he's bringing them together .

Speaker 2

Now , donald Trump is unique among world leaders . He was the most well-known world leader who opposed the UK staying in the European Union . He was the biggest voice telling the UK to get out . Who was not in the UK ? There were other voices , but nobody with the influence of Trump , because Trump would like to see Europe break up into 20 , some other different countries . I'll deal with you . I'll deal with you . I'll deal with you because I'm way bigger than you guys , but actually together we're not . The United States is not . But doing what he's doing , I think he is bringing them closer together unity-wise .

Speaker 2

And that's another unintended consequence . And I mentioned about debt . One thing I neglected to say there's a prophecy from the book of Habakkuk that's an Old Testament , hebrew prophet 2,600 years ago . That war is about a highly indebted nation , one who loads up pledges , treasury bills in modern terms , I would think and at some point in time , that's not going to work and that's going to lead to destruction . And so that's something that , again , I mentioned before . This Trump administration , the prior Trump administration , the Biden administration , the Obama administration , the previous Bush administration they're all accelerating the debt . Biblically , I think that's a mistake .

Speaker 2

I studied economics too , by the way . I've got a bunch of classes I took in economics . This debt thing is going to be a problem . It's more of a problem than most people think .

Speaker 2

Matter of fact , in the book Habakkuk , god actually says that when you read this , you're going to have to run . He says , even though it's going to take a while , it's going to happen . And it's going to take a while , it's going to happen and it's going to really , really be bad . And so that's one of the warnings that we've been giving out for quite a few years , because this is not a good thing . And since you said I could do this shameless plug , I'm going to talk about it again in this particular book , which is available at Amazon and , by the way , it's got lots of scriptures , a lot of news references . Okay , let's see I have let me look in the back here Not counting scriptures 200 , over 300 references , not counting scriptures in this and not counting various other prophecies from other religions , because a lot of them tie in for different reasons . So I talked about some of those in there as well .

Speaker 1

All right , let me talk to the more secular heathens . There you go . He halfway appeased you with news references . So , angels is , look , it does have a lot of biblical time . Of course You're a theologian . What are you expecting ? That's like trying to ride a bike . They expect to move without wheels .

Speaker 2

Well , again , people don't have to agree with my conclusions . I put out information , I quote a lot and it was actually funny During COVID I got something removed from Facebook . It was like a three-page . This was about three pages with 35 references and my question was what did I say ? That was wrong . Everything I said was scientifically correct .

Speaker 2

By the way , I'm also a published scientist . You can go to the National Institute of Health Medical Database type in my last name , t-h-i-e-l , and find papers I've written on natural vitamins , down syndrome , epilepsy , various things . So , look , I'm a scientist , I know how to write scientific papers , I understand science . But we were edited , censored , by people who had an agenda and what the agenda was not to tell the truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth . So again , I understand people don't agree with my opinions , but again , when we bring up facts , you can agree on the fact . You may disagree what it means , and so one of the things I go in a book are those kinds of things and , as I said in my previous Trump book , that first administration 22 things to 24 actually , depending on how you count them . I started lined up with it in the current one at least 14 so far , and the book's only been out since January 16th of this year .

Speaker 1

So far the prediction has a great track record . There's more correct predictions that come confirmations . You know some of these take longer . I want to say look , you see , he's not just a theologian , he's an economist , scientist . He has worldly expertise , just to put it that way , especially for you secular people , the heathens I still love you though You're a heathen . Though love you , don't worry , I ain't perfect either . I've done heathenistic things , especially when I swear . But I want to behave in front of this theologian .

Speaker 1

Here you have the old , especially the older episodes where I went off the tangent . So you want that more controversial stuff . You go to all the older episodes . But he , I mean you already said so much . Just one more thing I want to say um , I want you to have your chance to talk about the growth of technologies . You know , through your library , and I'm going to promise you that . I mean you already gave me so much value . I mean I might as well just give a little something that was idea that you put out . You know I might use a guest given idea , but I like it .

Speaker 2

It's actually refreshing to me so feel free to go through that In terms of growth technology . I remember growing up my father , as a part-time thing , would do people's taxes and he got a calculator . Now it's not like modern people . You have to move your arm back and forth , so he would have me do it by hand . While he was doing it I was actually faster than the calculator . But I was one of the first people who did get a calculator . An electronic calculator allowed to use it . In my geometry class I think I was the only kid who had one , and so I got involved with technology that way .

Speaker 2

Then , when I was in the military , I actually used what's called a key punch machine . I don't know if your listeners know what a key punch machine even is , but it made a . There'd be a card that looked kind of like this big , it would put holes in it . You could only do 80 characters , and so I keyed that in . This is before they had terminals . Like you can see , this is before then . Then we've got the terminals .

Speaker 2

Then I have a master's from USC and I was in one of their computer buildings . Now I'm going back to over 40 , almost 45 years ago Now . That building in modern times would have cost probably $10 million , $10 million . And what it did is it housed hard drives . Now , a hard drive we're talking about it's about the size of a two-drawer filing cabinet , okay , and each of those held 50 megabytes of data , and they had to cool it because those hard drives are thrown off heat , so you got a big energy cost and all this kind of stuff . Right , I just pulled this out . This holds more than that , building Probably times I don't know a factor of 10 or 100 .

Speaker 2

In terms of growth of technology , now , technology can be used for good . It can be used for evil . Now , one of the things that I think is evil , by the way , is I posted something yesterday at the Congregator website and there's a company called Oracle Labs and they've got a computer now that uses human brain cells . In Switzerland last year , they came up with this stuff . They actually are using human brain cells and I think that's wrong . They've gone to where they should not go In terms of technology and where it's heading .

Speaker 2

Talk about AI for just a moment or two . My son has a website called fastestsearchcom Over there . The reason I mention it is because it's free . It's got like six or seven , maybe eight , ai programs and actually I accessed many of them today and it's interesting . Because of my academic background , I know when I get wrong answers number one and two don't just use one if you're doing research . I was on one today and I got totally different answers from six or seven AI programs , and so I will use it . But also when they tell me that some document says something , I've learned , I have to look that document up because most of the time it does not exist or it's wrong , and AI actually apologized to me and says I was correct . But that doesn't help me . I wasted my time and I didn't get what I wanted . So that's one concern about AI . But another concern , getting to prophecy and this is the last prophecy I plan on talking about here and this is the last prophecy I plan on talking about here .

Speaker 2

In the book of Revelation , in chapter 13 , verses 15 through 18 , the apostle John wrote down that you're not going to be able to buy and sell unless you have the mark of the beast . The number is named number 666 . Well , when the apostle John wrote that nearly 2,000 years ago , that wasn't possible . Okay , let's say you and I wanted to buy or sell . Okay , you want to sell me a chicken . Okay . Well , what do we do If the government's bothering us ? We go in the field , we go in the woods . I give you a copper coin or silver coin I don't know how much a chicken was worth back then . You give me a chicken , I get to eat , you get the money . So when John was inspired to write this down , that type of technology did not exist . He also warned about a 200 million man army in the book of Revelation . There weren't 200 million men on the earth at the time . He wrote that down .

Speaker 2

Okay , so for prophecy doubters tying it into technology now we do have the technology as we get more and more toward digital currencies . Look in the United States . You realize we used to have million dollar bills , million dollar bills and $10,000 bills and all that . Now the only thing we just got is 100 . And a $100 bill buys what a dollar did 110 years ago , 120 years , something like that . So they're moving more and more toward having to be digital , because I realize $100 is still a fair amount of money . All right , don't get me wrong . But with inflation and everything else , the US is moving in this direction . In Europe they're heavily .

Speaker 2

My wife and I went to Sweden before I was before covet and we went to that . My wife wanted to go to this one museum and this museum said they dream of a world with only digital currency . Of some reason they think that's going to prevent crime . Uh , and it's supposedly good for you . But that means every time you buy anything , the government sees what you're doing . That means every time you buy anything , the government sees what you're doing . That's the same thing that they're going to do with the internet . Is it Texas ? I think the Supreme Court just ruled that it was okay Texas or Florida to validate if somebody is over 18 in order to go to a porn site . Now , I don't go to porn sites and I realize why there should be restrictions , but this is a first step toward you can't go on the internet without an ID . When my wife and I were in Italy 10 , 15 years ago , when we went to an internet cafe , you had to show your ID and they wrote to you . So they knew .

Speaker 2

I've never actually been to Russia , but I've been in a Moscow airport twice and with a long connection , like seven or nine hours , some horrible thing , right ? So I'm going to go on the internet , right ? Uh-uh , can't go on the internet unless you use a cell phone and they give you a code . Now , the first time I was in Moscow airport I didn't have . Actually , both times I didn't own a cell phone at the time . So one woman felt sorry for me at a restaurant . She was a waitress . She let me get in . Then somebody else from another country did it for me as well . But that's actually why I actually have a cell phone , because I don't use them except for WhatsApp or whatever .

Speaker 2

But sometimes you have to have them , uh , for verification purposes now , and so more and more in terms of technology and prophecy , we're seeing these things enmesh . I mentioned that daniel prophesied that knowledge would be increased . Can't have that the internet . John wrote down

Digital Currency and End Times Predictions

Speaker 2

that they can control buying and selling , and we're now to that point and we weren't to that point 100 years ago . Okay , at least for , uh , controlling all that stuff . So that's one of the reasons why I find the prophecies accurate , but it doesn't mean that people have misinterpreted them , just like the Cyrus , the Great stuff and all that kind of stuff . No-transcript , and I probably I'm sure I'll make some mistakes too . Ok , so , but anyway , that's what I want to talk about with technology , just briefly .

Speaker 1

All right , let me go aggravate the comment people even more . The commenters . I'm not expecting to apologize for anybody else . Everybody's responsible for their own predictions , comments or any of that . Bob is accountable to Bob , elias is accountable to Elias . Ok , not me being accountable to bob , or vice versa . Okay , that's crazy . We're supposed to be adults here , okay , none of this .

Speaker 1

Children , shenanigans and all that , even though you know the government is increasingly getting controlling and all that . You're gonna be watched like old children , young children , underdeveloped children , and well , you know my opinion on that . I mean , mean , I'm against it , but it's heading towards that direction anyway . So it's our increasing reliance on these smartphones and internet and all that . It is inevitable , I mean . And the little prophecies , I say they always right . I just think we , the people , sometimes misinterpret them because of our cultural or personal bias or I don't know .

Speaker 1

Whatever mainstream media tells us people , or social media that's another brainwashing source as well . You know , we get influenced by that as well . You know the doom scrolling , or for the more , you know , people obsess people . They call it channel surfing , you know just , but I'm gonna call it channel channeling doom . There you go . That's a new term , that's a coin term . There you go and if you take that , I'm gonna copyright , I'm gonna sue you . No , I'm kidding , you could take it , I don't really care .

Speaker 1

You know , channeling doom for those who are still obsessed with cable . Bring out doom scroll for social media folks . So why is it ? Because a lot of the content in there is junk . There's a lot of bad knowledge , let's be real and we're getting stuffed with it . Even me , you know . I use well my primitive um cable . So that's like smart tv cable and the social media to see what the heck is going on . I think we should be informed , but we shouldn't be so obsessed and absorb all of this . Um , I'm gonna be honest gunk junk . So a lot of this junk out there and we gotta be more mindful about how we consume it . That's why I'm pro digital detox . I thought it was silly but actually has some not surprising positive benefits . Um , the brain's aging is restored . That's good . You know , that's what I'm gonna say . Um , before I keep on rambling , rambling , rambling , let's reread .

Speaker 1

Gave them a ton of value audience . I hope you gain some value out of this the news people , the tech people and , most importantly , the spiritual people . I'll be getting some value out of this because he actually kind of that kind of he actually meshed three of the main topics I cover . That's why I encourage us about the growth of technology . And he said it was optional , but I didn't mind it .

Speaker 1

It'll make my podcast a bit different Because , trust me , he's on a tour , okay , and I got to make mine different . That's my only concern . I got to make mine at least a little different . Yeah , I'm sure my personality , my question , could do that , but even content wise . So that's why I like to kind of stand out and I've ended up not being unique . Well , I can't predict what's gonna go on 10 years later . Maybe I'll be the new normal , but as of now , I'm the proud black sheep and I I like that . God made everybody different . Okay , that's , that's what I'm going to say about that . So let's do the well actually , before we do the shameless plug-in , even the irrelevant stuff , anything else you want to add before we wrap this up .

Speaker 2

Well , I wasn't going to mention Scripture , but there's one more Apostle , paul wrote about knowledge , falsely called to Timothy , and so that's a situation that you've got to be careful for now , but it's always been a problem . I mean , that's why Pilate said to Jesus what is truth ? It's always been a problem . But now , with social media and with the internet , things can get blown out of proportion and people convince themselves of things they don't want to and people go into their own echo chambers a lot . Anyway , I don't apologize . In fact , I believe in scripture . I do believe biblical prophecies are coming to pass . And , um , as a shameless plug , yeah , I mentioned it and you know , this particular book is the one that I was talking about today , because a lot of what's in here has been happening , a lot of things are going to happen that I think people need to know . So , anyway , thanks for having me on .

Speaker 1

Well , probably , let's do another plug . In the first book you wrote what was that title called ? Let's link that in as well .

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Speaker 2

This is more for the hardcore people . Donald Trump and America's Apocalypse . That was the first one about Trump , but no , I've written like 30 books . Okay , I actually have one out on the new Pope , pope Leo . That came out within hours of him going into office and so far he's fulfilled at least one thing that I haven't had in that book on opposing Trump , I think on immigration , if I'm not mistaken .

Speaker 1

I mean he's definitely more I mean , but he's I would say he's restoring some conservative tradition in terms of marriage between men and women , based on his opinion decree , whatever you want to call it , feel free to request me there .

Speaker 2

He's less offensive to the average Roman Catholic than Pope Francis was .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , absolutely . And you , you know he wasn't . No , he , he's . I'm wrong , I think , yeah , I think he , he , he did attend , um , the republican national conventions . He's a , I'll say for the republican .

Speaker 1

Oh hey , now all republicans support trump . You know , I don't have to say no as a democrat and all that . No , you'd be surprised . There there are anti trump republics . I mean , one reoccurring guest I got is a Democrat and all that . No , you'd be surprised . There are anti-Trump Republicans . I mean , one reoccurring guess I got is a really anti Trump Republican . That's why you can't always put people in boxes . You'd be surprised . You'd be surprised . You'd just say , oh , he's not real conservative , he's ruling the Republican Party . But I'm not going to plug in that guess too much .

Speaker 1

But I'm going to link those two books in there . Well , I'm going to put more of the unintended consequences , but if you want to be hardcore , dig deeper to it , get the other book as well . Especially if you want to scrutinize the Bob feel here , be obsessed , challenge him , whatever . And if you want him back , say so . I don't mind it . I mean , I already have one idea . Let's dig deeper to the Pope's .

Speaker 1

I haven't talked about the Pope , so that could be something new . He does affect the world stage . Why not ? Why not First American Pope at that ? So he made history on that . I didn't think American Pope was going to be elected in my lifetime . To be honest , I really didn't think so . So I was actually a bit surprised . I thought it was going to be someone from another nation . I don't mind it , but I'm just shocked that it came this quickly , not complaining so far .

Speaker 1

And oh , not just the books . I'm going to link to his site . He references a couple of times COG Writer . That's going to be in there , right ? That's going to be in there right now and not right now in the description . Now I can't talk . Why is my brain going mush ? It's going to stay in there . It's going to stay in the recording . I'm imperfect , deal with it . And his social media is going to be all that's going to be listed in the description the social media . So if you want to follow him his posts , be happy , be mad or be in between .

Speaker 1

I don't know what that feeling is , maybe be bipolar . You like him one day , you hate him another . I'm sure he's your welcome and he's a very accomplished man . I'm sure he doesn't need your approval . I could say that I'm not going to rub you out of the wrong way because you think the world revolves around you . No , no , no , no , no , it doesn't , it doesn't . But feel free to express your opinion , I don't discourage that .

Speaker 1

You think he's great ? At least list one reason why , not just he's great . I ignore those . Or if you don't like him , you think he's kooky , crazy . That's one reason why , and the same thing with your host too . Same thing with your hosts . They'll just say you bad , you're stupid , well , you're awesome , you're the next coming to jesus christ . I'm gonna ignore those comments . That doesn't mean anything to me and that's blasphemous to say I'm the next coming jesus . I will reject that compliment in an instant .

Speaker 1

That is rabin reserved to a certain someone , and this is by . This is bible one-on-one . You , unless you're trying to stir controversy . All right , oh , enough of that yammering , all of that . His books , websites , social medias is going to be listed in the description .

Speaker 1

Now for my somewhat lengthy , shameless plug-in bligley itech follow on youtube , twitter I refuse to call it x , bad branding , x . I think of so many things , but not social media accounts , rumble and what's the other one ? Why do I forget ? Yeah , rumble , twitter , facebook , those , those are four I have and give a like , share , subscribe , and I already butchered you with the comment section . Feel free to express your opinion in there . Youtube might censor you . I don't okay . Youtube has a strict policy that Rumble when it gets uploaded to Rumble eventually .

Speaker 1

Feel free to express your craziness . If you get humiliated by the public square , that's on you . Just know that risk might happen and I will not protect you because I don't believe in this safe space thing . It's not a left-wing thing . Also , the right-wing got their own slick version of that as well . So if you're using anti-Semitism , just try to shut down anybody who is , I'll say , critical of Israel . That's their version of being woke .

Speaker 1

In my opinion , I might rub some of y'all the wrong way . Oh well , I don't believe in safe space and echo chambers . Nope , nope . This is why I think I have a pretty rational point of view , centrist point of view , because I don't believe in that . I joined one camp before I joined the other camp . They both kooky , they both crazy , they both corrupt . Okay , that's why I've learned , that's why I'm registered . I independent . I don't believe in that , ok , so oh , and then one more thing for the , for the audio people .

Speaker 1

Give a review . If you want to give a review , give it on Apple podcast , that's one of the ones I pay attention to . Spotify , I don't care for it . Give a five star if you want . Give what you know . Give your opinion of show what's doing great . And if you're more critical , what can I improve on ? All right that I want to see those kind of comments . I don't need perfection . Perfection is false , perfection is impossible . Okay , that's what I'm going to say . Finally , I can wrap this up . So once you go through this audio or visual journey , have a blessed day , afternoon or night .