302- America's AI Disadvantage With Saji Madapat

The United States and China are engaged in a high-stakes AI race with profound implications for global power, but America's short-term thinking puts it at a significant disadvantage against China's long-term strategy.

• China is implementing AI in grade schools while creating superior AI systems like Deep Seek at lower costs
• For every American STEM graduate, China produces eight, creating a widening knowledge gap
• America's infrastructure investment has fallen to less than 1% of GDP while China invests 45% in domestic and global infrastructure
• The US dollar has depreciated 10% this year as BRICS nations increasingly bypass dollar-based trade
• Chinese youth consume educational content on their version of TikTok while American platforms optimize for rage and entertainment
• America needs Roosevelt-style policies focusing on infrastructure, education, and strategic R&D
• The solution lies in American history - learning from Roosevelt-era leadership to build a renaissance
• Without urgent action, America risks entering its own "century of humiliation"

Wake up America! Get out of this ADHD cycle. We need to turn around our nation's trajectory by focusing on long-term goals and strategic investments before it's too late.

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Chapters

• 0:14 Welcome to Politically I Tech
• 4:08 The AI Race: US vs China
• 10:41 Century of Humiliation and American Decline
• 21:37 Dancing to China's Algorithms
• 32:19 From Roosevelt to Renaissance
• 49:18 The Solution: Learning From History
• 1:05:51 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:14

welcome everyone to politically I tech with your host, elias. I'm gonna talk about something that is, I would say, interesting, very interesting, because it's been nonpartisan and some may think it's too critical of America. I don't mind that in the show, this is not a safe space. No, I hate safe space. You know you want to avoid talking because it's hard. No, that's the reason why we should talk. We need to learn how to have difficult conversations, or even you know so, just thinking about your feelings and your ego. You know you might have some good points, but sometimes you need to hear other sides of the issue so you could be smarter at least, or maybe change your position just a little bit. Okay, they're just. Oh, my god, I'm hearing. I'm hearing the enemy talk. This is where we at, in america. You're part of the different side. You're the enemy. No, america used to know how to talk to someone on the opposite side. We used to. You see, you know we argued and then we went kumbaya as if nothing happened. But no, in america, people just they look at each other's enemy. Oh, you're the enemy. I don't want to talk to this democrat or this republican, but we're going to talk about something much bigger than that, because, my opinion, both parties are stupid. We're talking a much bigger issue that I think america is. I'm gonna be very honest we are at a disadvantage. If you think you're doing well, get your hand out of the sand or your butt. Look, I'm just gonna say this china. We could talk about the you know, the AI race, united States versus China. That's what we're talking about. But we're going to talk about something else along the way. I don't mind that. This is a free flowing podcast. We could go off the rails a little bit. I do it myself, so it's okay. All right, we need to talk about this. How can America do better? Because we need to talk about this. How can america do better? Because china.

Speaker 1: 2:31

Right now, I'm going to say just a few things. They created deep seek, a far better ai, and they spend a lot less money. Okay, and they're gonna, and they're implementing ai in grade school okay. So they are already playing a long game. They already have a lot of engineers. They want to continue to have more engineers. Even the old engineers pass away, so they are already thinking about the replacement. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 1: 2:46

We're just finding better ways. How to make anime videos. Make ourselves look more beautiful than what we are. Okay, um, let me just use. Let me just think of a stupid example. I want to look like I'm 15 years old. Yeah, I just do that. Clean all the you know the age marks, all that good stuff. There you go, done. That's what we're thinking about.

Speaker 1: 3:03

We just use it for silliness, for social media fame. Ok, we're not using it to. I mean, some companies are using it to improve it. Don't get me wrong, but we need to do better than that. I think AI education should be taught. Yeah, I know some Americans are uncomfortable with that, but we need to.

Speaker 1: 3:20

This is the next technological evolution. Remember about the factories? Let's go back to that history. Factories was a major disruption. This is it. This is another major revolution, if you want to be kind, but if you're cynical or you don't like it, it's a disruption.

Speaker 1: 3:34

But we humans great human beings adapt. We adapt. We don't stick to the past. Look, the past was great. I get it. But if you want to continue to do well, especially if you want to lose your job, ai is becoming. It's a must at this point. It's almost as important as oxygen For your job. That is OK. All right. Enough of me. Yeah, may I give you a little bit.

Speaker 1: 3:59

So let's introduce this guest Newcomer. Is our infotainment, yep, information, entertainment. For those of you haven't figured out that merging word, okay, infotainment. Let's welcome and feel free to correct me, saji manapat. I got that right. You got it right. Yeah, okay, very good. Well, I I've. Normally, I know I'll be more prepared in this. We're going to talk about this whole AI arms race with US and China. You know, just like, if you want to think about history, you know, the space race between Russia, united States. Russia beat us on that. One Big loss for United States. Will history repeat for United States? When we lose this AI race the way things are going on right now? We're at a disadvantage. Will we lose this AI race the way things are going on right now? We're at a disadvantage. And before I get started, he's been waiting patiently to talk. What do you want the viewers and listeners to know about you, sajji? That's a great question.

Speaker 2: 4:56

First of all, let me thank you, elias. I'm a big fan of yours and I've watched many of your podcasts and I really appreciate the honor to be on your platform. Something about myself, in short I'm a tiger rider, a contrarian. I look at the perspective of, you know, unlike the typical perspective and I mean many, many of those, whether it is for my own consulting assignments or or, you know, like taking a life itself or you know, whatever I get into. Rather than looking at the tip, mostly this part of the world, we are driven by the tweet cycles or, in a very short-term focus, you know, soundbites and the bullet points, especially the mainstream media.

Speaker 2: 5:38

I tried to my background. I'm an industrial engineer. Then later on did my MBA in finance and primarily on the project appraisal and the equity research and the investment banking side of it. So naturally I started with my research background rather than looking at the just, you know, just analyzing the balance sheet and the P&L alone. You know, underneath the organization, that's how I started.

Speaker 2: 6:00

So I'm, in a way, I came here as a, especially during the biggest business blunder in the world history that's Y2K. I put it as the whole world was. You know like. You know, those who you know. Many of these audience may be younger than you know, maybe born after the Y2K. So those days, you know, the whole business world thought, you know, like the whole world is going to collapse in front of our eyes on January 1st 2000. So, in short, I came here to fix all the Armageddon code, to fix this as a cybercudi over here, to fix it as a cyber coolie over here, to fix it. Anyway, I moved up the chain and I, especially I do the consulting work in some of the largest corporations in the world, including on the Fortune 10 most admired you know organizations in the world, including I was also with one of the major big four consulting player. Also, you know, I've been to around, physically, been to around at least around 20 countries and I've seen around 40, 50 different financial systems around the world, including with the second largest private equity firm or alternate investment firm in this part of the world.

Speaker 2: 7:22

So, in short, let me also put it this way I'm a naturalized citizen but I do have, you know, this is more out of my social responsibility. So, before it is too late, I used to be worried about my kids about four or five years ago, but now, especially with the AI coming into the picture and with some of the fluffs you're talking about, with all the tweet cycle, I'm more worried about all the professional class like me, all the middle class in the whole. It used to be, especially during the industrial, all the outsourcing, mostly affected by the you know blue-collar jobs. Now it is going to hit the white-collar. The whole middle class is going to wipe out pretty soon unless we adapt.

Speaker 2: 8:13

So, in short, so my, the Chinese learned from the century of humanize, I mean century of shame. So they learn from us, especially in this part of the world, especially from the Roosevelt's, whether it is Theodore or the FDR, or the way they're adapting. They're bringing their farmer's mindset and versus. We are going back to the. We are in a hunter's mindset.

Speaker 2: 8:46

In a very short term, our focus is every tweet cycle or, in the Wall Street terms, you know, every quarterly focus or versus over. You know, election cycle perspective. Every two years you know either the presidential election or, you know from you know like, the midterm elections happening. So our focus is a narrow, very narrow, short-term focus. Versus the Chinese. They're looking at it from a perspective. Their focus is, you know, their ultimate objective is 2049, their century of, you know, rejuvenation, so that is the focus. Century of, you know, rejuvenation, so that is the focus.

Speaker 2: 9:25

So we are completely against it. It's a much bigger beast we have no idea about. You know what is happening around us, the Chinese, you know, when you're looking at many of those states, many of those corporations are around 60-70 percentage of their Fortune 500 companies out of China are state-owned enterprises. Do you have any idea about how much state-back comes to over $50 trillion assets they hold? They're backed by the state and over here we are trying to compete even some of the largest corporations in this part of the world. We are competing more on the fluff side, very short-term focused, versus their focus is on the dynasty building this dynasty. It is a $3,000 year-old civilization, or maybe something $3,000 to $5,000 year-old civilization, versus our whole country is built 200 years back and we are looking at with ADHD, we are looking at a very short-term mentality. Fortunately, the whole world is, you know, moving the other way.

Speaker 1: 10:58

Let me hear that, listeners and viewers, I know some of you may be obsessed with oh, America is the best at everything. Look, I love America, but we have to be honest here. We have to be honest here. You could call me a communist, a traitor to America, all you want. I want America to succeed, but we need to shift our mindsets Instead of just focus on the stupid social media, traditional media, noise and sounds.

Speaker 1: 11:27

If they have long-term goals that could really improve the United States, is it going to happen? I don't know. To be honest, I'm not as hopeful because, you're right, everything's about quarterly and then, when it comes to the major, the federal elections, it's a midterm and the president is back to midterm and the president, yeah. Yeah, we Americans we just go fast, sometimes without you know. We run fast in the fall, so we could have hit some things. We are sometimes walking into things blindly, we're not thinking long term and I think this is a simple question here, and this is going to be the first, very simple question who's winning, us or China? I think the answer is pretty clear as of right now.

Speaker 2: 12:12

It is not the matter of winning. Let me give a little bit maybe a little bit longer answer. First, why I got into this one. When I wrote the very first edition of the book around five years ago, during the Trump 1.0, tail end of you know 1.0 and with the COVID scenario I wrote this book from, I saw the writing on the wall pretty clearly and at that time I was more concerned about my case. So I wrote the first edition of the God Must Be Crazy book in that backdrop. Again, I noticed the whole.

Speaker 2: 12:48

At that time itself, around two-thirds of the world was colonized, economically colonized, by China. Even if we have around 70 or 80 bases all around the world, they're all pretty much a city. You know, like many of our fancy aircraft carriers are this sitting duck against. You know, like many of our the fancy aircraft carriers are this sitting duck against. You know a $10 million, $13 billion fancy fourth class aircraft carrier is a sitting duck against just a $10 million missile, you know, from China. So I wrote from that perspective at that time. So now, with the Trump 2.0, with currently what is happening, especially in the AI sector, in a way it has affected me personally and I used to be worried about. Only five years ago I was worried about my kids. Now I'm already affected by my own. That's the key reason I came out with a second edition of my Does the Gods Must Be Crazy book.

Speaker 2: 13:50

So with this one, coming back to your question, who is winning? We pretty much again. That's a question. We need to address it a little bit from a historical perspective, how we won back in this country. One it is all the capitalism. You know who built the foundations of capitalism? It was done, you know again, based on my analysis, primarily by Theodore Roosevelt. He, in early 1900, he built the White Fleet, the biggest navy in the world back then, and we pretty much, including in the Panama Canal, we built, you know, we pretty much colonized, especially many of the South American countries, and we had a big influence. You know, like we built the foundations of the capitalism. And his cousin, franklin Roosevelt, fdr. He came at a very challenging times as we're going through, during the Depression era, during this World War II era, depression era, during this World War II era, and he looked at it, some of those fundamental issues, what's you know like what we are facing today, and he built it with a long-term mindset as a farmer mindset, and he's looking at, you know, like he had the luxury of, you know he had the backing of the whole industry came together with him. You know the halls, the government and the whole came together with him, the government and the whole. For example, in just one year itself we were building over 40,000 aircrafts and the same way the Pentagon was built in 18 months time, the whole Pentagon. So we brought together, we got the mojo back at that time, especially with after the second world war, we become the, the, the largest. We took the, the throne from britishers and we become the number one. Like we, we pretty much rule the world till till around, you know, till recently. Now, with coming back to your question, who is is winning? Unfortunately, we are looking at a very short-term with a very short-term mentality. We are looking at some of the fluffs. We are losing our game in pretty much most directions.

Speaker 2: 16:17

So one of our strongest points, especially with the FDR he brought not just the Britishers, you know, he brought the Stalin, he brought the whole world together. We built the United Nations, we built the whole country, every country, pretty much, every most countries on earth. They rallied behind us. Now the whole world is running away from us If youied behind us. Now the whole world is running away from us If you take a look at it, especially the BRIC countries. Earlier there was a big conversation about coming out with the BRIC currencies. I think that the country which was against that one again it was India. The Indians were against coming out with the BRIC countries Again. I don't know how many of you audience are familiar with the BRIC countries. They're about, I think, two-third of the population in the world and if you take a look at the whole, you know if you combine India and China together, it comes around to around 3 billion people around the world and if you add it used to be the four or five countries, now it's around 20 countries banging together on that one and we made pretty much enemies of the. It is not just Europeans or another. We made enemies from all around the world. So in a way, if you look at it, so far at least, as of last year, around 58% of the trade, even though we control only 25% of the world happening with us, we control because of our world currency, the US dollar, mighty US dollar. Around 58% of the trade used to happen with the in dollar denominated. You know trade, but unfortunately, with what is happening now, many of these countries are doing the trade with each other in their own currency to bypass the whole US dollar and the BRIC currencies. You know, like there is again, I think they're going to this week and last we speak now there is a Shanghai conference going on in China. I think that they're celebrating the Second World War. Anyway, xi Jinping is bringing the whole nation pretty much around from 20 major players, the leaders he's bringing together. So ultimately their objective is to completely top it off.

Speaker 2: 19:02

Us dollar Again, if you take a look at it beginning of this year. The US dollar Again, if you take a look at it beginning of this year, the US dollar depreciated at least around 10% since the beginning of this year. That means we lost our purchasing power by at least by 10%. Whatever the US, if you have a bank saving in your account, you can compare it with the rest of the world. You know it's depreciated by 10 percentage On the top of that one with all the tariff and all those things. Again, I'm not against the tariff. We need to have a strategy. Tariff is one of the two you know we need to utilize, but not the way you know, like you know we need to utilize, but not the way you know, like you know, copper bombing you know, all around the world. So we need to build the friends. To your question unfortunately we lost most of the opportunity, but we still have some worn out trump cards. We still have some cards to play before it is you know. Again, this is you know. You cannot play everything solo. You need to bring allies together around the world, otherwise it is.

Speaker 2: 20:12

We are living in an exponential age with the AI, with the Chinese ECNY. That's already around. I think, based on my couple of years in data, it's around 300 million people are transacting in ECNY, the Chinese digital yuan. So that is more than the US population or pretty close to the US population already. So we are number one. We are still controlling, we are still winning some extent because of our mighty US dollar. That edge is completely eroding and it is going away at an exponential pace. So, yeah, we can get into other AI and all those areas. I know I gave a long no, that's fine.

Speaker 1: 20:59

I'm happy you gave a long answer because I was set up as a short, but you answered very well, we, we're in a losing, I mean people. I'm just giving you a short answer. Well, you, you went through a big one about, you know, our soft power, our finances. Well, military might I think us is still good there, but my even though my thing was more on ai race, but that's music gave like a broad, very global context of it. So I'm not against it because it really touched a component of it which you know China's winning right now.

Speaker 1: 21:31

But I can't America turn it around. That's the question, right? Or this trajectory is going to go the same. I don't want to be, you know, I don't want to be, you know, sad, or give you doom and gloom, apocalyptic scenario. Sad, or give you doom and gloom, apocalyptic scenario. I think america still got some, just like you said, some cards or something they could do to turn it around, and they need to. The faster you do it, the better. Let's be, let's be honest. You already said this all soft power is declining great damage relations, especially with canada, the, the western european countries which we had great relations with because it was many things. I mean the Ukraine war was one, and then the tariff just added more damage to it.

Speaker 1: 22:10

But you know I don't want to get. No, geopolitics is a part of it. I don't mind mixing a tech with geopolitics. I mean, if anything, it makes a better conversation. Anyways, yeah, this is this, is. This is something that I really hope you pay attention to. Let's not to be American around the world. Somebody may be celebrating.

Speaker 1: 22:32

I did talk about bricks several times, about we need to get our act together because they're going to just bypass the dollar trade within their currencies. I could buy gold, which America is a fiat current currency. Yeah, I have talked about the server time with the bricks, so my audience have some familiarity with the BRICS. It's not completely an alien subject. I try to educate because I especially I think I started talking about two years ago. This is important.

Speaker 1: 22:56

This could topple the US dollar if this keeps going. You know the American dollar is not as strong as God. Okay, it could be destroyed. It could be erased and depreciated. It's going to be so depreciated we might spend a million dollars for our bread if that keeps up. Okay, and you know that's happened. Hyperinflation, you know happens and it's never going to happen if we don't get our act together.

Speaker 1: 23:17

It's for you to wake up, america, wake up, and we have to change our plans, especially about, you know, building allies, which is very, very important. We cannot do this alone because for a long time we had most of the world on our side. That's why we were so strong and that's something America needs to remember that and bring new strategies to restore alliances. Don't do what we did. We're not going to pull another World War II. That's going to definitely isolate us and and even even get and get us attacked. You know, look, we're not gonna pull another world war ii, though that that time is over. We're coming with new strategies, 21st century. America needs to think in the 21st century. That's a big problem, we think anyway. So, like in 1950s, 1975, 1990s, no, we need to think 21st century, new ideas that could restore american exceptionalism and not just american exceptionalism. Treat the allies, you know, better. We need to think of partnerships instead of inferior, superior, the colonizer and the victim.

Speaker 1: 24:23

You know, framing that's another thing and I've been saying that for years, because we will not be the top dog forever. Just not All great powers have. You know. They rise up and they fall. That's what history taught us. Doesn't matter if it's a black, white nation, doesn't matter where it's going to happen at some point.

Speaker 1: 24:46

Okay, that's all I want to say. I mean, china went through their tough times as well. You know, they've been around much longer than united states thousands of years, depending on. Yes, I think they've been around much longer than us. That's another thing we have to. You know, think about that. Look, I think they turned that shame into fuel. We need to start turning our shame into fuel and learn from the past, because if we learn our lessons for history, we'd be a better nation. But if we're going to keep doing this nonsense just pretend like history is not important, that's just for the past, it's for dead people well, we're going to have a really, really rough time and I'm not sure Americans are ready to deal to become the third world country which we're heading that direction anyways.

Speaker 1: 25:31

Yeah, I want to say that that's, that's scary, that's controversial. I don't care, it's true. I want America to do better. I need to get together, and we talked about the background of a lot of politicians. So a lot of Americans are are lawyers, reality tv show stars I cynically add criminals into that mix. And then we already said that how some of the leaders for different countries have phds engineering. I mean lawyers I'm not gonna knock you down, because you do have your use but actors do we need actors? No, and and criminals well, I don't know. There's an argument that criminals are creative, but they also ruin the reputation. So that's a double-edged sword, right there. If you want to play it safe, no criminals. If you want to be really creative, use the criminal, but be warned, they'll pay attention. You're going to get screwed. That's all I'm going to say about that. Anything else you want to add before I get to the next question?

Speaker 2: 26:32

Yeah, if I may, to your point. I think you addressed both perspectives also. So we need to look we've been to this kind of challenges around 100 years ago or in the 1900s and especially with the Depression and the World War II and all those We've been to this kind of of exactly this very similar challenging issues before. Our solution is also lies in the history. We don't need to read another self-help book or typically fluffy stuff. What we need to look at is how our own leaders, how they address this kind of similar challenges, how our own leaders, how they address this kind of similar challenges. We can rise up, especially again looking back to the Theodore Roosevelt's or the FDR or Eleanor. They all face very similar challenges and it is a matter of learning from our own history rather than looking at the fluff soundbites and the bullet points, looking at how they address it and do you know our own? You know we have our own solution. We have inherently, you know again, we can come back. We can rise up to the challenge.

Speaker 2: 27:45

The Americans can come together, but unfortunately sometimes it may need a major shock therapy. Otherwise, the way the things are going sadly, I'm afraid we may need some shock therapy to realize, otherwise we have a bunch of frogs happening in boiling water. The water is getting already, it's already boiled and, as I mentioned, we lost around purchasing power terms. On US dollar lost about 10% of its value since the beginning of the year. On the top of that one, many of those tariffs are not yet reflected in the, in our, you know, like the Walmarts and that kind of world. And by the Christmas or pretty soon. So I'm afraid the inflation is going to be. You know, we are going to erode our purchasing power terms. We are going to lose already lost the value in dollars in 10 percentage in dollars in 10%. We are going to lose our purchasing power by at least 20 to 30%. You know, pretty soon we become 30% poorer before the end of the year.

Speaker 1: 28:58

I know this is scary for some of you and sadly I agree. America is a stubborn nation. It needs a major shock. I love the analogy with the boiling water and the frog, because that's America. Right now we're just feeling a little bit of heat blistering, but it's not enough for the frog to move out Once it gets really heated. The frogs inside it might be. In some cases might be too late. But I want to become like the miracle frog. We want to hop out, heal, act together and do that. And this is not for me to be negative. Just say America's stupid. It's not stupid. And he's already talking about it and I'm going to emphasize it further.

Speaker 1: 29:38

We need to learn about the Roosevelt, because they were revolutionary, they were innovative, they did help America during challenging times. I mean, they were, they were innovative, they were, you know, they did they did. They did help america during challenging times. I mean, they were called crazy, they were called all kinds of names, but they but look at history they fixed, they, they, you know, they fixed the problem that they intended to to solve. So there is hope, america. I just want to emphasize that I'm not gonna do the doom and gloom anymore, you know, I, I, I, I introduced it that way on purpose. But there is hope, you know, despite. But we need to go through a rough, we need to go through the dark valleys, you know, and shock therapies, whatever analogy you want to use. We have to go through some tough times. Okay, and that's how America is this stuff, yeah, feel free to add.

Speaker 2: 30:26

Yeah, if I may add. You know, before getting into the solutions, so we may need to paint some of the realities. You know, I don't know how many of your audience in this show been to some of the inner cities out of their ivory tower. Many of the listeners are the middle class or the upper middle class or, you know, like you know, decent, so we are all living in an ivory tower. If you've been to the many, many parts, most of the cities in this part of the world and again, look at what's a cleanup happening in Washington DC, unfortunately, in many of you you know I'm based in Memphis many of this, if 90 percentage of this part of the city, you won't be there enough to drive around even the broad daylight. You can see the graph graffitis, young graffitis in many parts of the, this kind of cities and this is a. We're in a way, we are in a in a. Many parts of the. You know, again, many of us are living in an ivory tower, so many this is a in a way, it is a big way police state and uh, comparing with your analogy on another third world countries, so many of those parts of this country you know, many of you know, sometimes worse than the world. I need to be careful which I am using. You know shit world. You know which was referring about you know like, in the previous. So, unfortunately, yeah, many situations are worse than the third world country. I've been to around 18 countries around the world and this country become number one. We become the global leader because of you know like, again, not just the FDR or the Theodore or, you know like, if you look at the Eisenhower, you know he's a Republican president, he and his administration.

Speaker 2: 32:24

They built the national highways all around this country. Do you have any idea in the past 10-15 years, how much infrastructure that like the national highways in China built? They built 10 times than what the US built in past 10-15 or 20 years, built in past, you know like, in 10, 15 or 20 years. So they built the infrastructure. They are hardly even maintaining the already existing infrastructure. I think it's been less than one percentage on the infrastructure. So, basically, just to do the patchwork, we are not even taking care of our own infrastructure.

Speaker 2: 33:05

Look at the high-speed railway over here. Even after 20 years' debate between San Francisco and, you know, la, they're still not able to do anything. Meanwhile they I think the Chinese built, I think, several times, to go around the world. You know the infrastructure. You know even within their country itself, you know, the high-speed railways all around the country, and not only that went through the Belt and Road Initiative. They're building infrastructure, much superior infrastructure, in the so-called third-world countries, including, you know, look at that, the Pakistan itself, you know treated as you know Pakistan. They build all the corridors, you know. Look at that, the Pakistan itself, you know treated us. You know Pakistan. They build all the corridors. You know like they have even much better infrastructure may have, you know, than this part of the world. The highways, and you know they, including Africa may have, you know, sometimes have a much better infrastructure, much better port facilities, much better, you know, facilities than this part of the world.

Speaker 1: 34:15

And even much better airports too. Ooh, I feel you know I'm going to go back to well, he's no Roosevelt here, joe Biden, when his brain was you know more together, he said our airports look like third world hell holes. You know not the exact words, but he said something along those lines and that caused controversy. But me, as I agree. I saw airports of saudi arabia and china and all them, they, they, like you're going to future, but that's not the future. That's supposed to be the present. We're behind. We just, just, like you said, with the infrastructure and all that I mean.

Speaker 1: 34:54

This is not surprising to me because I've studied these things especially. You know, I was always into the geopolitics of looking what's going on around the world. I said, oh my goodness, if America could just have this focus. There's so much we could have done. But no, we're just busy bickering, playing politics and not to just worry about enriching our friends and our circle. That's it. We've become hyper selfish. I think that's what I mean, but you already tackled on the next question about what's the problem in US short-term thinking. Well, you answered it Lack of focus.

Speaker 2: 35:50

You just gave great examples of that. So we are addicted to the TikTok. Some of the technology we are already there at the century. If you don't play our cards right, unfortunately it is going to be. The next century is going to be our century of humiliation oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 36:07

I mean I love the tiktok example. Chinese version tiktok, best version tiktok. Very different, very. And I've seen people who have shown what is chinese tiktok. Don't show in a great you know their culture and empower them with science and well, you know things actually educate america tiktok just a bunch of mentally ill people shouting and some just shaking their butts.

Speaker 1: 36:34

I mean that's the, that's the us or the west version of tiktok. I'll say more the us, because that's the stuff that we watch, unfortunately. So our adhd and attention span, our attention span, is no better than a goldfish. I've said that before. I'm going to say it again it's no better than a goldfish. We go for one video to another, to another, to another. Yeah, it's like 30 seconds to a minute, but you're so addicted.

Speaker 1: 36:58

Hours fly by just sitting, rotting, getting fatter, okay, you know, and and dumber, really, and I'm not saying this is just to be creative or real worry warrior, but this is the reality here and a lot of I'll say the vast majority of american youth addicted to tiktok, and even young adults, now I'll say like the older adults, or maybe older adults, like 35 plus years old or higher. They're. They're not as addicted, but you know what? There's some that are too, because, especially if you see, you know they like to see happy fluff stuff all dancing. Oh, look at this 85 year old. She could dance. Good, that's great. I mean, she's in great health. But you're getting distracted by, you know, frivolous entertainment, if you will. And while you know, china continues to rebuild asia, parts of af, more than half the world at this point, asia is a very large continent. If you forget your basic geography class, okay, it's, we need to get our act on together and you know, I'm just going to jump straight to the next question. I think you're ready, do you mind?

Speaker 2: 38:05

if I add in a quick one.

Speaker 1: 38:06

Oh yeah, sure, Go ahead.

Speaker 2: 38:07

While we are on the TikTok, you know I think I assume your audience knows who owns it that ByteDance owns the TikTok platform and the TikTok over here in this part of the world is everything, is all this.

Speaker 2: 38:21

At least, if you're shaking and if you're getting rid of some of those fat, that's a good thing, it's not a bad thing, but unfortunately we are dancing to the tune of. The algorithms are controlled by the Chinese and they can easily, relatively based on my understanding, it's around 200 to 300 million people in this part of the world addicted to the TikTok and you may look at who got. One of the major presidential election platform was TikTok in the last presidential election and the big way credited to the whole, like the reason they still they didn't shut down the platform because of the one of the key reason is that's a reason Versus the TikTok version of the US that is based on my understanding. That is banned in China, or at least the youngsters, not just a TikTok, this kind of social media, the screen time in China is very much limited to, you know, especially with the Chinese, even if they're using it, what they're teaching on this kind of platform is how to build the robotics, how to do the scientific stuff on the STEM area, and these are the things taught in the Chinese version of the TikTok Versus over here.

Speaker 2: 39:50

We are dancing to the tune of algorithmic tune of what you know, or the rage, or you know, or the funny stuff, all the cat videos and again, I'm not against the cat, no means, but at least you know it is. We are dancing to the tune of China yeah, no, that's it.

Speaker 1: 40:10

I mean, there's no argument. Look, look, people. If you want to argue that you want to argue, say saji, or and eliza's crazy, feel free to express that, but you're not living in reality. You're entitled to your stupidity, but you're not entitled to the truth. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to the facts. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to the facts. These it's factual. And I'm going to link the channel I. I hope if I don't link is because it's been banned.

Speaker 1: 40:35

This man has exposed night and day difference the U S tick tock. There's this China's version of tick tock. Okay, it's almost like a completely different platform because of just just how radically different the content is. It's more empowering, while the America is more entertaining and silly. And I'll just add one thing, besides the dancing and cat videos, I love cat videos too, like, I attack the cat videos as well. I think that's OK, but there's a lot of people just screaming like morons and spreading misinformation. So I'm more political. That's why I'm more sensitive to that People. Just, you know, 16 year olds, even 20 some year olds, or 30 some year olds, spreading misinformation and lies, dumbing down the US population. Just like you said, we are dancing and just reacting and feeding the Chinese controlled algorithm and it keeps putting out, repeat, repeat and just throw maybe a little something different in between, but just to get you hooked. That's the main thing hooked and distracted.

Speaker 2: 41:33

And if I may just add this kind of points, if you are saying something productive, if you want to say this kind of algorithms, that is the lowest of the priority. But if you're doing some shouting video, some angry birds kind of video, if you're having a fistfight on this floor, they're going to amplify this one, the rage, it's going to get at least 17% more amplification and your video is going to be the top on their platform because they make the advertisement by you know. They make their money by you know on the race. Unfortunately, it's again. It is not just again the tiktok again. That is how it is a hundred billion dollar.

Speaker 2: 42:25

The, the, the facebook's and social media is a hundred billion dollar. The Facebooks and social media is a hundred billion dollar business in this part of the world. And how they make their money by bringing you know through an uncivilized war, by bringing you know the people on each other's throat by rage. So yeah, unfortunately your voice and my voice, nobody want you know the people on each other's throat by rage. So yeah, unfortunately your voice and my voice, nobody want you know, at least for those algorithms they can't make the money out.

Speaker 1: 42:55

You know, yeah, you're right. This is, of course, not just a TikTok reason. I'm attacking the board because we're all in China, but you're right, that applies to Facebook, instagram, even YouTube. They're throwing YouTube in there as well. Might as well do that, and I'm not sure this app is as popular Snapchat. That's another one. So you're right, this is not just TikTok, it's a social media wide. That's what they do with their algorithms.

Speaker 1: 43:25

Whatever generates the most attention in the quickest amount of time shouting, fighting, doing something outrageously stupid it's going to be amplified as opposed to having great, great conversation. You have to spread that organically, and that's easier said than done, you know. So that you're you're right about that. Unfortunately, they they rather have me, they want me to slap Saji's head and call them all kinds of racist names. Oh, that will get attention. But having a good conversation, would not? You stupid immigrant there you go, something like that. They're going to clip that part, just this part, right there, it make me look crazy at some point. You know, that's okay, good, that'll bring more attention to the podcast. Good, good, good. But yeah, you're right, not a good, civil, intellectual discussion. I'm trying to throw a little entertainment in there. Hopefully they'll see it as that. I'll sprinkle that in between.

Speaker 2: 44:23

You're right. Unfortunately, if you look at the whole market capitalization of this part of the world, you take a look at the magnet, you're familiar with the magnificent seven right, including the meta and the google, and then all these companies, they, they control the whole the, the, the, the, the us. If you take a look at the stock market, you know the most of the, the market you know belongs to those, those seven companies, and they all make the money this way. Unfortunately, they all invest the money. You know, like, most of the money on this kind of activities. We are not doing anything much productive stuff.

Speaker 2: 45:02

Versus on china, as I mentioned, spend, if you take it like around 75% of their fortune 500 companies are state-owned enterprises. They invested over $50 trillion in the market from the asset perspective. So they own around 50% of the global GDP around the world. They're looking at it from a civilization perspective. They're looking at their target is from 2049 perspective Versus here, if you do anything in the short term, you know, like again, if you look at it, like if you take a look at the solar panels and that kind of stuff, you know they're making the stuff, they're making the product, they're selling the product below maybe even half the material cost Versus if our own company, if we do something like that one, by the next quarter we're the sea level.

Speaker 2: 46:04

Forks will be out and there will be all kinds of lawsuits happening and especially there is a lot of activists in the United States they will be taking over the company and on the top of that one, they will be owned by some private equity firm or some other firm pretty soon. So again, you know, some private equity firm or some other firm, you know, pretty soon. So again, coming back, you know, yeah, unfortunately, yeah, we are going in a completely wrong direction. Before it is too late, unless we play some of our own trump cards, you know, especially from Roosevelt. 10 days, you know we have.

Speaker 1: 46:46

We are already numbered yeah, I mean, you know I'm going to change my last question because I don't think the us tech giants could be a good ally based on what you're saying, because they're part of the problem too. Unless you could turn it around, maybe they could be allies against this ai, or just even this general race, you know, against china. I mean, what can we do to turn on? Besides, you know people can say what do you mean by this Roosevelt? You know way of thinking and being. You know how did that see?

Speaker 2: 47:14

And that's my last question, yeah, the Roosevelt's way of thinking. You know how we can get it back to our mojo back, or how we can turn it around. Yeah, again, this is where, again, the Roosevelt's way of thinking coming into the picture. So we need to look at from what happened 100 years ago with Theodore Roosevelt. You know his square deal, so we had a. Again we are getting into a Gilded Age. We are already in a Gilded Age. This time it is controlled, not by the railroad barons, the Magnificent Seven. We were talking about all the technology. You know algorithms. It's controlling us.

Speaker 2: 47:51

So we need to have a square deal like what Theodore Roosevelt brought, the same way, the Franklin Roosevelt. We need to have a New Deal version of you know our own today's age New Deal version on how we can build, invest on the infrastructure, how we need to put back. You know like our own infrastructure build. You know our, at least maintain the system going forward. You know like we are hardly not even spending you know, not even one percentage of our GDP on infrastructure, whereas, as the Chinese, they're spending 45% on the infrastructure. You know 40 to 45% on the infrastructure, not just in China, all around the world through the colonizing, through the Belt and Road Initiative, now with the digital system. That's one aspect. The second aspect is about we need to bring back the GI Bill. Do you know how at least our parents, at least from this part of the world how we built this country back, especially after the Second World War? At least from this, from this part of the world, how we build this country back, especially after the second world war, with the GI Bill, all the the second world war, a military, you know, like the people this came back from the. You know they sent back to the schools, they sent back to the universities they trained to become the professionals, the doctors, the lawyers, the engineers. That's how you know we, in the 1950s, we brought up the educated knowledge economy which can build our infrastructure, we can build our manufacturing industries, we can build our you know, the whole engineering, research and development, all those things back. Unfortunately, again, you know, we not only shift in the past 30, 40 years, we not only ship our, put our manufacturing, our factories on a barge and ship it to China. We, along with that one with a thank you note, and we gift wrap and send our intellectual proprietary rights, we send our research and development, we offshore, outsource all our knowledge economy along with that one Again, everything that we did it for a very short-term, quarterly-minded, to get the boost on the stock prices, whether it is by our own C-level executives again, like you know, or in the private equity kind of environment.

Speaker 2: 50:17

Most of the corporations over here are sitting on a, especially those who are sitting on a huge debt. Many of these companies, at least a significant portion of the countries, are owned by the private equity kind of. Most of the ones that they buy the private equity is typically by the good companies with the solid assets. They strip off all the assets, they sell everything back to themselves or they lend it back or impact. Most of these companies are saddled by a huge debt.

Speaker 2: 50:48

So far it was not exposed because the interest rates were low, but with the scenarios we are talking about, it's already. Interest rates are significantly high On the top of that one, with all the inflation hitting hard, the US dollar going down, all those. You'll be seeing who is swimming naked when the tide goes out. Unfortunately, the tide is, you know. You'll be seeing who is swimming naked when the tide goes out. Unfortunately, the tide is, you know, unfortunately by the end of the year, with the dollar depreciation, with all the tariffs hitting into the, it is going to expose all the skeletons in our closet. And maybe the third one you know we're running out of time the third one we need to look at it so. Third one we need to look at it. So, rather than we need to make, we cannot do it alone this time.

Speaker 2: 51:33

Unfortunately, we are not living in the post-Cold War unipolar world. It is not the end of history, like the Fukuyama wrote. It is the beginning of a new history. We are living in a multipolar world. We cannot do it alone. We need to bring the whole world together. That is the only way we can address many of those challenges.

Speaker 2: 52:00

And we cannot bring back realistically even if we want to bring it back all these manufacturing sectors which we lost in 30, 40 years. We can't bring it back all these manufacturing sectors which we lost in 30, 40 years. We can't bring it overnight back. Realistically, we are only 5% of the world population. Even if we bring it back, we don't have the people to work. First of all, it is not going to be the factory floor with full of people. It is going to be a floor with full of robots. Let's take a look at Grok. I'm based in Memphis. Memphis has the biggest AI computer center in the world period, based on my, at least, according to Elon Musk the Grok computer center. Do you have any idea how many people work in the biggest computer data center in the world? Any idea?

Speaker 1: 52:57

I'm going to very low number. I'm assuming probably like five.

Speaker 2: 53:00

It is more than that. There are about at least 30, 40 security guards.

Speaker 2: 53:07

Oh, okay, security guards and there are a lot of some, at least some point all the electricians, you know, connecting the wires and that kind of stuff, and there's a lot of bunch of cleaners on that part of the world At least, in the data center. So it is not even if you're bringing the whole AI back. You know, like the whole, if you're building all the AI data centers, it is not going to employ all the bunch of computer engineers or computer scientists or you know, unfortunately, yes, there's going to be some, but they may be sitting somewhere else and then all, like again, many of those things maybe, unfortunately, will be offshoring you, many of those things maybe, unfortunately, will be offshoring. You know, again, more than half of the AI developers in the world. Do you know where they are based? More than half of that in China.

Speaker 2: 53:55

Yeah, I was going to say, China, Every one STEM graduates coming out of this part of the world. I think every year it's less than 500,000 people. You know graduates from the STEM area. Do you have any idea? From the STEM area? Do you have any idea how many STEM graduates are coming from China? Four million For every STEM graduate in this part of the world. Eight STEM graduates are coming out from China.

Speaker 2: 54:24

Do you have any idea how many universities are going to survive in a couple of years in the US? And this is not my statistics, it's from a scholar from Harvard University I forgot the name of the. It's going to be 40%, as he predicted. This is not the statistics. I think from the last year or no. This is prior to all the war, with all the stuff happening. He predicted 40% of the US universities are going to close down pretty soon. And this is again with all the wars happening, before all the wars happening, with all the university funding and all those stuff. You have any idea how many universities are coming out? Let's put it this way Every week in China new universities, high-end universities.

Speaker 1: 55:05

I won't be surprised. There's probably a few hundreds Every week around High-end universities. I won't be surprised.

Speaker 2: 55:08

There's probably a few hundreds Every week around one university coming out Wow.

Speaker 1: 55:12

It's around every year, that's like 50. Yeah, 50 too.

Speaker 2: 55:16

Yeah, 40, 50 new universities and they're again coming out with this. They're spending when we're cutting down our research funding and sending that money to some of the wealthiest people in this part of the world as a tax write-off and all those stuff built all our knowledge foundation, all the research and development. We used to spend around a couple of percentage of our GDP on research and development. Have any idea how much money we are spending on the research and development in this country? Government sector? 0.7%, and that is again. That's not even barely not even going to maintain some of the basic. Again, we on that 0.7% number was from maybe a couple of years before number.

Speaker 2: 56:10

Now we're cutting down all those research and development sector Versus China. They're spending at least a couple of percentage on their hard. When they're spending, they're spending on a strategic area Versus when we are spending on the research and development. We are spending our research and development. We are spending our companies spending, whether it is for Apple or Google or Facebook. You know these are the so-called technology companies. They are spending, we are spending our research and development how they can improve the algorithm, how they can take care of the rage or you know, or how they can come out with a new dongle and again, many of these dongles, like the Apple dongles, and if you look at the screens and all those things, many of those research, the fundamental research, happened out of DARPA or government institution, research and development institution or university, all the universities first of all. Many of them are going to close their shop pretty soon.

Speaker 2: 57:11

Seidensens research funding is we are cutting down on that one. Without that kind of we need to have a fundamental, long-term research. So unfortunately, again we need to. My solution is to look back, learn from our, read our history book, learn how this country, these foundations of capitalism, was built. The solution is inherently within us. We don't need to look outside. The Chinese learned from us and they looked at the positive side and, of course, they're taking advantage of our rage now, of course, of course, listeners and viewers, are you listening here?

Speaker 1: 57:55

This has great, great value. This is a hard lesson that America needs to learn. Stop avoiding it. Stop, you know, be addicted to your screens. It's not going to help you, I mean, unless you're doing your research. That's the exception, right, that's the only exception, I would say, if you haven't your intent on research, so just, you know, I don't know, looking at people shaking their huge butts and 10 hours of cat video is not going to help. I like cat video, but that's a little bit too much, okay, and I and I like that. That.

Speaker 1: 58:28

We could just look to the past. The answer is right there and we need to focus as a nation. So, just fighting over stupid stuff and political stuff, that's what. That's another thing that's driving us back to um, because we fight over stupid stuff, that's not even like the most important thing in the world and we just care about enriching ourselves and our friends. You know which is which is very selfish, it's hyper individualistic, and I think that's another thing. That's that's adding to america's on disadvantage.

Speaker 1: 58:58

Look, I want america to succeed, I really do, and he's providing a solution. So I hope you're at least paying attention to that you probably ignore everything else. Release you, listen to the solution part. Pay attention to that. At least rewind this. If you have to go back, if you have to, because there is hope it's just that we have to go through a rough, rough, rough transition. That's just inevitable. You cannot avoid it. We just cannot. You know, and we are grown-ups, those who learn how to have a tough conversation. Okay, look Like I love to joke, I love to do silly things, but this episode I'm probably I did a little joking here, but I'm more serious because this is, this is a serious problem. It really, really is America. I just really hope you're listening. So just beating your feelings and drinking the emotional Kool-Aid, cause it's not going to help feelings. And drinking the emotional Kool-Aid because it's not going to help.

Speaker 2: 59:51

It's not going to help. All righty, you add so much, may I add one more quick point on that.

Speaker 2: 59:55

Oh sure, I just want to add on that one. Again, the Chinese learned from the century of humiliation. They learned from us, from Theodore Roosevelt and the FDR and the whole, you know, from our history. They took the responsibility of it. Now they're playing the same card. Unfortunately, it is going to be. We are going to be, if we don't take our own responsibility. We need to start blaming on China or someone else. We need to take responsibility of our own self. Again, we don't need to look anywhere else. We need to look at our farmers, the people, the leaders. You need to learn from our own history. If we don't learn, the centuries of humiliation is in front, ahead of us. Whether we want to be a roadkill or we need to build back better renaissance, then it is. You know it is going to be morning in America again. Otherwise, unfortunately, we're going to be a roadkill. A century of humiliation is ahead of us.

Speaker 1: 1:01:01

Take that warning seriously. Turn that to a fuel Instead of crying and panicking. We got to turn that to fuel. Okay, turn that to a fuel instead of crying and panicking. We got to turn that to fuel, okay, turn that to fuel. If you turn pain and even a doom, vision is a fuel. That's how you overcome it. You get changed. We could turn this around.

Speaker 1: 1:01:17

Like I said, it's not as negative, it's not as doom and gloom as you think, but we but we continue to do what we are doing right now. It is going to be. Change is needed, period, period I cannot emphasize that enough. Look, he said a lot of wonderful things. I'm just giving you just a short version of it. Change is needed. We need to do it as quick as possible or else it's too late. We want to be, you know, the flying car, not the roadkill. I'm adding that part part. We want to be the ones, as I had fixed, not just fixing our infrastructure, expanding it further, which is some small cases. We slowly are, and I can give you new york city example. We are starting to do the expansion of the second avenue subway. You don't know how long that delay was nearly, uh, nearly seven. No, no, no, no. Let me use the more conservative measure. Since World War II that has been delayed. Okay, that's a really long time, over 80 years Now. We started to expand on that, starting to just preparing the construction. Okay, I mean, we did a very minor expansion on the seventh train no-transcript.

Speaker 1: 1:03:14

For those of you who are tough and maintain listening to this podcast, I commend you. You deserve a purple ear or just a purple heart, because this was tough. This was tough, even tough for me, but it's not what you want to hear. Is what you need to hear? Okay, you need to hear this, and I don't always play the funny, goofy character I love to, but this needed a more serious, serious tone. Get it together. Wake up america. Get out of this stupid fluff adhd cycle. You order whatever you want to call it. You need to get out of it. Look, he's just a messenger, but a very profound messenger. We need more of that, all right. So all right, let's do your plug-in. Where can they find you what? You got a lot of books, like you, you got a god's must be crazy. Part two, there's, of course he. He alludes to original one. Um, he got so much books and, of course, a heck of a lot of tech experience. I mean, he got a heck of a lot um, so where can they find your website?

Speaker 2: 1:04:22

I do have a couple of different websites and from different multiple perspective. They can find me through linked Sajee Madapat, my first name and last name. That's one way. The second way, from the theyamus maybe I'll spell it T-H-E-Y-Y-A-M dot U-S, so through that way they can contact me. There's another one tiger, tiger, dash rider dot com. It's for me. For me, I do have a passion in the photography and another kind of, you know, passion too. They can find me over there, of course. They can get this book from right now. It is the gods must be crazy. I hope you can. Yeah, the gods must be crazy.

Speaker 2: 1:05:04

This book is available in amazon pretty soon. It is going to be in, it's already, in addition to IngramSpark. It is going to be in around 50 different platforms in 200 plus countries and the first edition of this book was translated into 18 different languages. This book is much larger, around pretty close to 200,000 words, maybe one of the biggest book in Amazon. You know they have the limit of. I can put only maximum 550 pages and then like 650 MB file size. It's a lot of. I'm using a lot of infographics to make it, you know, much more friendly to conceptualize. So, as a result, this is one of the biggest, maybe the biggest book in Amazon, so it will be, hopefully by the end of the year. It will be many, at least, about.

Speaker 2: 1:06:02

My dream is about 18 different, even if it is not 18 different languages, at least about a dozen languages by the end of the year. So it can be. It will be available in 50 plus different platforms in 200 plus countries and including the print. It's already in print digital and audio books. You know it will be. My object dream is also make a especially taking an advantage of some of those AI you may very well familiar with. You know, like the Google the podcasting feature. You know, google LM. You need to take advantage of some of those things. You know we need to come out with many documentaries or that kind of stuff, hopefully soon it's going to be pretty soon in so many different platforms and pretty much all around the world.

Speaker 1: 1:06:54

Look at that very inclusive multiple languages. If you don't know English or Hindi, you'll be just fine. I'm sure Spanish is going to be included at some point, and God knows a lot of other languages. I'm just going to be included at some point. Um, and god knows a lot of other languages. Um, look, I'm just going to describe, just to cover for you. For though, you know, if you want a picture history for those who are listening, it has an uncle sam with a dollar and it has a very angry red donkey and a very blue elephant. I think that's intentional. That's going to really piss some people off and you have an angry kid that's using looks like a Coca-Cola.

Speaker 2: 1:07:32

God must be crazy, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:07:37

The young generation, or the American, you know civilization, looking at the rest of the, especially the China's emergence. You know, through their Coke bottle prism, an angry boy. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, he looked very angry. Yeah, the red, you know. And again, I switched the colors between the donkey and donkey, intentionally, you know, because again, you know the donkey is angry. You know it's an elephant is charging. You know, like they're looking at left and right and they're going at two different directions. Well, uncle Sam is trying to still trying to maintain looking forward than looking at the extremities of. You know left and right. You know that is it. And meanwhile, you know the young boy is looking at anxiously, looking at what is happening. And, if I may add, you know another.

Speaker 2: 1:08:19

You know the things are accelerating, especially with the AI coming into the picture. Especially, I assume, especially, I assume many of these listeners are the middle class, at least with some professional background. Fortunately, we are the people going to get really, really hit hard. Even McKinsey's own projection, you know, pretty soon the majority of us are going to lose our livelihood and this is going to be. This is again, if we don't take it back, some of those AI development. You know it is going to. It is already a Chinese AI century. Most of the fundamental research and developments are application level research and developments are happening in China. Over 50% of the developers are in that. Ai developers are in that part of the world.

Speaker 1: 1:09:07

So you got your description of the cover and I'll put the link as well for that book. And I will put the link even for the first book as well, because he linked that as well. I'm going to put a separate link for that. I'll put the link to his own website and not just his LinkedIn. Even the YouTube channel you need to get some love there too. I think you mentioned it. I'm going to include it in there anyways, so they can see the visual. People are very visual oriented and I'm sure YouTube will help you out. Okay, be focused Americans. That's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 1: 1:09:37

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Speaker 1: 1:10:25

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Speaker 1: 1:10:59

It's a great way to communicate Instead of just going through chains of emails. It else it gets very annoying. Very quickly I got. I do have guests. I don't use pop match. I encourage you to do that. You know who you are. Use pop match at least even temporarily. Okay, just even temporarily, because it's a great way to communicate. You send a nice little one sheet. That's changing, instead of just giving me a pdf, one sheet and you need to correct a guy that do all the work and send me another one and go through all the chains of emails you said about ADHD and all that. I'm spoiled too. I'm lazy, I'm exposing myself here. Podmatch is clean and organized. Okay, just that's incentive right there. You know, it's very the system is great, right.

Speaker 2: 1:11:41

So join PodMatch.

Speaker 1: 1:11:43

That's how we're connected. Also, exactly Him and many other guests. The vast majority of guests are in PodMatch. Oh, sajji's not special there. Most of my people from PodMatch. Podmatch is great. It's a great platform. Matchmaker, you stink. You got so much unprofessional people in there. That's why I left you there. You go. They will attack the competition. All right, now you've made it to the end here. When you complete this audio or visual journey, you have a blessed day, afternoon or night. You.