303- Echoes from Beyond With Tina Erwin

Tina Erwin, a former Navy officer with 20 years of experience working with the submarine force, shares her journey from designing equipment to protect submarines from terrorist attacks to becoming a "ghost liaison" who helps spirits cross over to the other side.

• Grounded in science with a deep understanding of Newtonian and quantum physics
• Increasing sensitivity to spirits involves creating quiet space amid the noise of modern life
• Learning to listen to your intuition can save lives, as demonstrated through multiple personal stories
• Water often represents a gateway to other realms and can indicate spiritual activity
• Developing critical thinking skills helps navigate both spiritual experiences and everyday challenges
• Parenting with questions rather than snap judgments helps children develop their own intuition
• Multiple dimensions exist and are increasingly accepted by astrophysicists
• What separates humans from AI is our soul's connection to the divine
• Compassionate discussions about gender and sexuality are needed rather than judgment
• Signs and symbols from the divine often appear in everyday life if we're paying attention

Visit ghosthelpers.com to find Tina's books, including The Crossing Over Prayer Book, and audio prayers to help develop your spiritual connection.

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Her Website

https://ghosthelpers.com/

YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPQRa61kvpfSERaOjVPoEQw

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tina-erwin-0a5b8919/

Check out episode 285

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWc8G8dNTQg

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Tina Erwin, Ghost Liaison
• 6:05 Increasing Sensitivity to Spirits
• 11:24 Signs and Intuition: Stories of Warning
• 22:10 Paying Attention to Intuition Saves Lives
• 30:42 Parenting with Critical Thinking
• 43:17 Discussing Sexuality and Spirituality
• 56:31 Final Thoughts and Resources

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:06

Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, elias, I have a second returning guest. Yes, this is executive privilege in terms of podcasts. I override the data and the numbers. Yes, sometimes I'm a bit selfish, come on, I already said this before. This is not the first time that sometimes I do this out of my own curiosity and for those of you who are into metaphysics and going beyond this physical third dimension realm that we're in, right, you know, look, there's a lot of things that are invisible, that aren't guiding us, even pushing us, and I already talked about the Wi-Fi and the wind and all that, how they're invisible, but yet they are around. And if you had to see it just to believe it, I would say you are partially stupid. Yeah, I'm going to say that partially stupid. Or you choose to believe what you want to believe. That's up to you in the end of the day. I cannot tell you what to do. You know, I sometimes wish I could pull a gun right through the screen and force you to believe what you want to believe, but that'd be me being a crazy authoritarian. Oh, lies, lost it. He's a crazy authoritarian. Yep, you'll be right. You'll be absolutely right, and you should shout that out. If you're brave, that is because the guns point towards you, and then I will easily send you to probably the fourth, and if you know where you're going, to the fifth dimension. Let me just say it like that. Why I'm saying all this is because this is not the. This is definitely not the first episode I have go to two. Episode 285 about.

Speaker 1: 1:42

We talk about these dimensions, the generalities of ghosts and how you know where you're supposed to go. If you know, I mean logically speaking I think it's such an ironic word to use Logically, I don't think it's logic. If they know where they're going, if they have sense, I guess they'll go to, they'll go to light. But if they don't like, they like what on Earth? Purgatory, I guess, until they find. I mean, the best example was Ghost. I said, oh, that touched me. I actually wanted to almost cry on air because that was my favorite, one of my favorite movies of all time. We get tired of watching it and I always felt some truth to it. Let's all right. Enough of my random monologue. Here I have tina erwin, our ghost major liaison, living in the dead. All right, that's. I'm gonna call her the ghost liaison, all right.

Speaker 2: 2:43

And that's so cool.

Speaker 1: 2:46

So I'm going to call it so, since you're back, what do you want the listeners and the viewers to know? And this time I'm going to be slightly strict, make it kind of brief.

Speaker 2: 2:58

What I would like them to know is that I'm a person grounded in science. I spent 20 years in the Navy and I worked for the submarine force, and one of the very scientific things I did was to protect a submarine from terrorist attack. I designed the equipment that did that. So I have a very definite grounded place in how science works. But along the way, I discovered just how sensitive and aware a lot of submariners are, including my own husband, who is a submariner as well. Then, along the way, I discovered that I had this pesky and I use that term deliberately ability to see and hear a ghost, or 10 or 100 or 100,000 of them I've heard. I mean, it's an uncountable number that have been crossed over. So when you are in that position, you have to figure out what to do, following actually the rules of science.

Speaker 2: 3:58

Energies neither created nor destroyed, based on not only Newtonian but quantum physics and astrophysics, which is where an awful lot of astrophysicists are beginning to embrace concepts of metaphysics we would never have imagined, such as there are many dimensions. What happens to a soul after death? What is the energy of a soul? Why does a physical body weigh less immediately after death than they weighed while the soul was still attached to the body. These are all science-based things. This is why I own the trademark for teaching the physics of metaphysics. That's a little bit about me. I've written nine books that help people understand everything from ghosts to karma, um grieving to prayer.

Speaker 1: 4:47

So, elias, thank you so much for having me back oh, no problem, and yes, this is partially my ego being curious here, but maybe you could benefit from it. Take advantage, be strategic here. Don't just take it personal to say, oh, this is, this is all for a lie. It could be for you too, alright, but anyways. Okay, this is when my restriction response is removed, because now we're going to get into the interesting stuff. So this is something I should have started at episode 285. Check out the link and for YouTube it's going to be in the top right corner. Click on that if you haven't seen it. I recommend it as well. If you want to go through the Tina, I would say duology so far, maybe become a trilogy, we will see and then. But the first question I have is how can we?

Speaker 2: 5:50

increase our sensitivity.

Speaker 1: 5:52

Yeah to the spirits, ghosts. Forget the cynics. They're never going to be sold. We don't need them. But how can?

Speaker 2: 6:01

we do that in general. I think that it depends on sometimes it depends on where you live. We're bombarded with so much noise in day-to-day life Sometimes it's traffic, Sometimes it's the noise of crises and friends and family members or the layers of fear that are constantly broadcast to all of us that when there's so much noise, there isn't enough quiet space sometimes to begin to know how to hear or to learn how to listen. And this isn't just about hearing ghosts. That's part of it and it's an important part. But I would offer that the other part of it is to hear your own higher self or your own subconscious. It's developing a sensitivity for yourself and what your own higher self or your own subconscious. It's developing a sensitivity for yourself and what your own needs are. And as you become and sensitive is a problematic word you become more capable of hearing when there's a part of you that's uncomfortable or unwell or terribly unhappy. Dis-ease is a symptom of something that's out of balance in the body. As you become more in tune with your own self, then sometimes, because of that process, you can then learn to pay attention to other things going on around you, and these could be things from your child is desperately trying to tell you that their room is freezing at night and you have the thermostat set to 74. There's a good probability there's something going on in the room and your child's not lying. There's a feeling that you know. You close that cabinet and you come home and it's open. You know that you heard a voice, but you can't figure out what it was. You smell something that has no logical reason for it. All of a sudden, things start happening with water your pipes leak, your toilet overflows, your sinks leak, you have a radiator leak in your car if you have a car old enough to have a radiator or you have some kind of a leak. Water represents not only your subconscious, but almost like a gateway to other realms. Water is an amazing medium that's been used since the time of the Greek gods. They talked about the use of water in some of these interesting ways and in fact, the Oracle of Delphi sat over this great cavern and it was believed underneath it was water. So when you start to slow down and some people use yoga or they go for a long walk or they do forest bathing, where they go into the forest, or they go on a hike and they clear their head of the cobwebs and the noise and they learn to listen to themselves and then they learn to listen to things going on around them.

Speaker 2: 8:45

This actually happened with a rocket scientist who worked for NASA, Langley in Virginia, and he contacted me. I don't even know how he found me, Because he was dating these women and he had just moved into this house in Virginia Beach. And he's dating all these women and they're getting madder and madder and madder at him and they each tell him that there's a ghost and he just denies it and denies it and tells these women they're crazy, which, as you can imagine, some of these women were executives, they're lawyers, they're engineers. That didn't go over well. It was an insult to their intelligence. And after they left and he didn't have any more dates in the house, he kept noticing that his front light was on. Whenever he'd come home from work the light was on. He had an electrician come out, he checked the wiring, he changed the bulb, but every day, he knows, he turned it off, but every day he'd come home the light was on for him. He didn't want to believe he had a ghost. So he spent a lot of months in denial.

Speaker 2: 9:46

Finally, I get this phone call from this guy and he's furious. He says I don't believe in you, I don't believe in ghosts. This is you know. He said a lot of the typical things I'm used to hearing. He said, dude, you called a psychic, Do you have the wrong number? Or what he says no, all my girlfriends tell me I have a ghost. But this can't be true. I said why don't you let me look? And when I look I use remote viewing because I was living in California at the time. So when you remote view which is another fascinating topic you can be in one location and then you're sending your consciousness to a location anywhere on the planet. Some remote viewers go off world and look at different planets and you know heavenly bodies. So it's an unusual skill, shall we say, and sure as a devil.

Speaker 2: 10:34

I looked at his house and he had a woman who died in the Civil War. She cut her leg on a rusty nail and she died of jaundice and she fell in love with this guy. Civil war was really hard. She died after Lincoln was shot. She died probably in the summer of 1865. And she told me all about her life, how she was in love with this rocket scientist and what she did to all these women in detail. So I crossed her over and so I waited a couple of days, checked and everything was fine.

Speaker 2: 11:08

The more goes, I called him and he says, well, maybe you're right, Maybe somebody was here, because the light's not on for me anymore. And I said, well, invite your girlfriends back, See what happens, See if they agree and tell them you did something about it and you respected their opinion. It might make for a great opening line and create a common feeling between you. And this is my point. Whether you're male or female, some men are just as sensitive as women. I wouldn't discriminate between them. I would just say that if you're feeling something, instead of listening to somebody say, oh, you must have imagined it, pay attention. This is true especially with children and, for God's sake, it's really true with pets.

Speaker 2: 11:49

A lot of people depend on their dog to let them know when there's an intruder. But a dog doesn't know that a ghost is an intruder that you can't see. I had a guy, also in Virginia Beach, who was a chiropractor and he had a dog that just stood in front of a blank wall and barked till. The guy thought he was going to lose his mind and sure as a devil. There were a group of Civil War slaves who had been treated by him in another life. He was a doctor and he had helped them with injuries or illnesses and he was a kind man to them. And they found him in, you know, on the 21st century and they were trying to help him because he wanted to commit suicide. He was very depressed. No one knew that. I couldn't have known it unless I talked to these ghosts. So because he paid attention to his dog, so because he paid attention to his dog, and the dog stopped barking at the wall when I crossed these gentlemen over, it shifted some things for him and he was able to talk about some of his feelings. I just thought that those are examples of men who are paying attention to something happening in their lives, as well as women. I mean, I have tons and tons of stories.

Speaker 2: 13:07

It's simply a function of don't dismiss something that seems odd or out of the ordinary just because you think it can't be true. What's happening? Literally in the news yesterday they're talking about portals that the Hadron Collider and CERN is opening and this is happening on a daily basis and they don't know what's coming through the portals. Well, you don't know where they're opening and which points. You know. Where are they opening portals? Are they opening wormholes? We know there are multiple dimensions. That's well known. Astrophysicists are beginning to understand this. Astrophysicists are beginning to understand this, and when you understand it from that viewpoint and you're sensing something unusual, you don't know how the actions of CERN are affecting not only the living but the dead in your area. Maybe they need more help and you're noticing things you never noticed before. It doesn't mean you're crazy, it just means maybe something has changed. Does that make some sense?

Speaker 1: 14:10

uh, yes, for those who are into this, metaphysics, spirituality I'm not talking christianity, buddha and all that. That's all great, you know, and I guess she has a scientific background. So if you want to call a cookie, that's entirely up to you in the comments section. Just know this. She could back this up and that's all I'm going to say for you. So you know, or you say this host is so stupid and crazy to invite her. You know, I'm fine with that, I don't care, and this is stuff that you wonder why. I don't know. Maybe a door is moving. You know, and I counted this a few times in my old place. I know I've locked the door. It was unlocked and someone unlocked it and no one touched the door and the person was able to get in and she did some weird prayer in a room. I mean, this is what opened my eyes and this is, and this is a time.

Speaker 1: 15:09

Personally, I was in a pretty dark place. I was depressed. I even tried to kill myself so I could relate to some of this, but weird stuff was happening. I always saw a shadow flew light speed, real quick. It was pure light. It was light at that area. All right, everything was on all lights on, just you know thing. Right, you know.

Speaker 1: 15:31

You call me, you call us crazy, all you want. I think you're crazier because you're gonna be ambushed and you don't wonder why things are crazy and you're not opening your mind to a suggestion that's more spiritual rather than just carnal and physical. Okay, that's all I'm saying. You know, feel free to call me crazy, I think you're physical. Okay, that's all I'm saying. You know, feel free to call me crazy, I think you're crazier. That's all I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say. I gotta, I gotta defend my fellow spiritualists metaphysics, ghost liaisons, whatever because they are on to something. This is human evolution, right here. That would be more attuned to this stuff. Try this 1950s. I think she would have been locked up. I will try to dig into this. I would have been locked up for being crazy. The fact that we have these conversations is a sense of evolution, which is a good evolution. Well, actual evolution is good. The evolution is the opposite when we get dumber, crazier, more barbaric. That's the opposite. So this is a evolution that I enjoy seeing here in real time.

Speaker 2: 16:27

It's good More people talking about it, more people are aware of it.

Speaker 1: 16:31

Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2: 16:32

This is also. I mean, you brought up a really important point, and I think that it's the evolution of being aware of not just spirituality but intellectual connections, of not just spirituality but intellectual connections. And I've told this story many times of the woman who had 17 family members who took their own lives. And once those family members were crossed over, her suicidal ideation ceased and she gave them all precious, compassionate help and it's like the lights came on in her life. She did spiritual service in helping them and then something wonderful happened to her. And my point with that is that when we can do something positive, you never know how this is going to all work. There's another element here, and that is when you engage in positive prayer. There's such a thing as black prayer. I'm going to be very clear about that. You're engaging in prayer, you have a positive goal for your life.

Speaker 2: 17:38

You'll hear a lot of people say well, you know, in a dream it was shown to me that, or I woke up one morning and I had all this information at my fingertips. This was true for Nikola Tesla. This was actually true for the Wright brothers so many scientists. But what's interesting is there's something called around the earth a mind belt, like a belt you tie your trousers with. Hold up your trousers. It's a belt that goes around the earth. It's called the mind belt, and the mind belt is governed by a series of frequencies. If your mind and somebody else's mind are on the same frequency and it's as if this information starts to come from the cosmos which it does more than one person will come up with the same idea, and that actually happened during the time of the Wright brothers and as they were coming up with all of the critical math calculations that enable wings to be made, ailerons and all of the aerodynamics that make a plane have lift, there was another scientist in Paris who was coming up with the same things. He was about three or four months too late and the Wright brothers got the credit and the Chinese had been looking at this. So this concept of flight during that window of time was already in the mind belt. The more sensitive you are, the more you're opening yourself up to the divine and you have a positive purpose. It's amazing what you can literally download, to use current vernacular, but people in other times would have said they had a vision. Today it's a download you pick the terminology, but that willingness to listen or have a sensitivity.

Speaker 2: 19:29

I mean, I wrote the Crossing Over Prayer book and it sounds like I did a great job writing this book, but actually I was somebody's secretary on the other side. I mean, I literally couldn't type fast enough. All of these prayers kept coming out and people were writing me from all different parts of the world. I don't know how they knew I was writing this book. It wasn't like I put the word out hey, I'm writing a prayer book, give me your needs. From other parts of the world. I had these random emails Can you write a prayer about? My husband is an alcoholic. I'm afraid my child died. What about competition? And I just get all of these weird requests for writing prayers. And then, when I sat down to write the prayers they asked for, all this information came pouring through. Yes, I focus on being sensitive so I can hear the thoughts enough of what the person is thinking to answer their need. And as you develop your own spiritual self and you follow your spiritual path, you learn about the needs of others, how to keep their needs in balance with your own and really how to be of service. And frankly, elias, that is actually what you are trying to do, at least in this podcast, is to be of service by letting other people know that when they have a feeling or a sense, they're not crazy. But let's take this a step further, if that's okay.

Speaker 2: 20:55

I used to live in San Diego, which is a wonderful city, and to get to my house you had to go up this steep, steep hill, down a hill and then up another hill and then turn into where we lived. Well, one day I was coming up this hill and there was road construction and there were all these signs that said slow, stop slow. There was, I mean, an unusual number of signs and ordinarily you think, oh my gosh, it's road construction, but I thought I need to pay attention to this. I don't even know why I thought that, but I trust the process. So, instead of hurrying through the stop sign at the crest of the hill, I went very slowly and as I came down, the other side there were two 10-year-old boys zigzagging their bikes across the road and had I been going any faster I would never have been able to stop and I stopped my car and I pulled over because it's a blind hill and got those kids out of the road and read them the riot act and sent them home so they wouldn't be killed. And I was so grateful that I paid attention to the signs.

Speaker 2: 21:59

God speaks in signs, you know, in ways that if you are listening you will hear it. I think this was also discussed in the Jim Carrey film Bruce Almighty I think that was it and he realizes that you have to pay attention to the signs you're being given and when you are, these doors start to open and you begin to see the world differently. You can make a really big difference. I mean, this kind of thing has happened to me repeatedly. I turned a corner and a ball went in front of me.

Speaker 2: 22:36

So I stopped my car and a four-year-old came racing in front of my car, and so the mother came out and got him, but I didn't move my car. This voice said no, wait. He came out two more times in front move my car. This voice said no, wait. He came out two more times in front of my car and then the mother looked at me like how did you know not to move your car? And when I saw that she had a firm grip on this kid and the ball, only then did I move my car, because I'm listening, you know, carefully listening on multiple levels. It isn't just about ghosts. Maybe it's about saving your life or the life of a living person. So isn't just about ghosts. Maybe it's about saving your life or the life of a living person. So kind of a different view.

Speaker 1: 23:11

I like that you. You know you're tying the academics, the intelligentsia, if you will, into this, so just making them separate. You say I treat them as separate, but I mean we got to stop conditioning ourselves that would just intermingle these together, because they are interconnected. I mean a sign says slow because it means slow. Slow for what? Lobbyists ignore us. I'm not going to slow. Go like an empty road. All of a sudden bikes come and then an accident happens. Imagine just the opposite. You could have killed those boys.

Speaker 1: 23:45

So that's why intuition is so important. This is why the sin of God signs slow, just that by itself, no context or anything. Some people just ignore it. It's like eh, whatever, eh, it's safe, I'm going to drive as fast as I want. All of a sudden, boom. No, god is telling you that for a reason. Go ahead, go go. I'm sorry, go ahead, go go. I'm sorry, go elaborate, I'm getting excited here.

Speaker 2: 24:07

In 1971, I was an exchange student in Columbia, south America, and I lived in Medellin, colombia, and one day we went to this resort area called El Pinole and it's up in the Andes and you know, you do this switchback up into the Andes and it's a sheer drop. There's no guardrails. Most of the time the road washes away. It's just terrifying. So they're all day. We're coming back at night, the driver is drunk, the roads are dry, but we're in a Jeep and every, every time he goes around, we go farther and farther and I can see the twinkling lights of the city below and I have this terrible feeling that we don't have many curves left and we're all going to die. And I'm struggling and I hear this voice in my head so clearly screaming at me you're not supposed to die here tonight. Tell them to stop the car. You have too much to do. Tell them to stop the car. It's like okay, I told them, you know, stop the car.

Speaker 2: 25:08

I spoke a lot of Spanish at that time and then everybody got out of the car. They pulled over, got out of the car and they looked at me like what, what, and? And I? And, as I was about to go. What do I say next? How much vocabulary do I have for this? They went oh my gosh, look, there's a flat tire. That's why the car was veering that and not having a very, you know, sober driver, well, I was a hero. After that they changed the tire. My boyfriend, who had not been drinking, drove us back and I cried all the way back because the ramifications if I hadn't listened to this voice screaming in my head stop the car were epic, and I'm sharing these stories and people all over the world have these stories.

Speaker 2: 25:49

I had a captain of a submarine tell me that he knew there was going to be an accident. He knew it to the core of his being and he did everything in his power to stop it and he notified the whole chain of command. He had this feeling, he was concerned about this person and this person, and when he collided with a Russian submarine he felt marginally vindicated, but it pretty much destroyed his career. But he could feel it coming and in that case it may very well have been that there was nothing he could do to stop it, which is another interesting concept when you look at the things that can happen to people, when you look at the things that can happen to people, and my husband was captain of an oil rig off the coast of Brazil. You know that's kind of a wet your pants job every single day. You know the men and women who man those rigs are. I mean it's just a terrifying job.

Speaker 2: 26:45

And I listened as my husband told me how he constantly listened to his intuition, how he constantly paid attention when the crew told him something or when they said you know, this is breaking down, I'm concerned. I mean he was right on it because the day he took the job, deepwater Horizon blew up. So he was super vigilant. But you can be so vigilant that you shut off hearing what you need to hear. And so he said he was very careful to listen on multiple levels when a crew member no matter what level they were in the crew was warning him about something, and if he felt that he had to stop, he stopped.

Speaker 2: 27:27

And this, you know, men, call it listening to your gut, I don't care what you call it. This is what saves lives, and this isn't about the dead. This is about just living day to day and feeling like you're building a relationship with God, you're building a relationship with your own intuition. And then you have theme and variation about how all of that works.

Speaker 2: 27:54

Let's say you're in a business meeting and you're reading the room. You're looking around the room and you're looking at who's fidgeting, whose knees are banging, who can't stop fidgeting with their pen or who's looking out in space, and what you're getting is what is the mood of the room? That is a psychic sense. Men and women have it, and police officers have to do that when they're watching a crowd. When you're in an emergency room, you know the on-call ER doctor or the ER nurse is trying to do triage, deciding who's the most injured, and someone who may not look like they're injured may just collapse right in front of you and die. So you're using another sense to get yourself through that day and do the right thing in that moment. And that's what makes us human, that's what I hate to say it, but that's what separates us from AI is the connection that the soul has with the divine. You know, there's a little bit of a monologue there.

Speaker 1: 28:53

So no, no, it's fine, I'm ooh a little shots fired against the AI. This podcast, let's talk about the AI. Ooh, oh you, AI, obsessed you. Ai fouls. Are you offended by that? I mean it does. Oh, you, ai, obsessed you. Ai files. Are you offended by that? I mean it does have no instinct. I mean it has no intuition. It cannot be connected to I yourself. It's just a collection of data that we humans just put in a carnal third dimension. That's it Right. So I mean she's not wrong.

Speaker 2: 29:26

I would also offer that, while AI can do some truly remarkable things to give the devil its due, at the end of the day, karmically the individual is still held karmically responsible. Ai doesn't incur karma, only the mortal person does. And if AI tells you something and it doesn't sit right with you, strongly encouraging you to listen to your gut, because sometimes all that is fed to AI may not be for the greater good of the person in front of it very true, very true.

Speaker 1: 30:06

I mean, in this podcast I'll tell you, do not let the ai drive you. You drive the ai and you use it responsibly. Don't let, don't let it manipulate you. I mean I've said this before. You know, believe it or not, she's not. She's not being, you know, confrontational, she's being wise here. All right, let's just be. I'm just going to be honest. I don't like to be a little instigative, say shots, fire and all that, but I mean there's a lot of wisdom here. Let's just be down and pull my picture cap. There's a lot of wisdom here.

Speaker 1: 30:41

Instead of my instigative, entertaining hat, I got many of those, many of those you know. Just so you know, start a little argument or a little reaction on the chat. Hey, you know, you commenters, are you kind of fun to play with? I could tell I get on your nerves. I kind of enjoy that. That's not a good thing, but I don't know you. You make it easy for me be wise, be productive in this discussion, provide some good counterpoints. They're just saying you're stupid. I just ignore that. I just laugh, because it just reflects on your low, low and I'm just gonna use this karmic, not karmic, carnal excuse. That's why I make carnal language, low intellect, low karmic. Look, as long as you're not killing anybody doing something vile, you're just a bored person behind a smartphone or keyboard. That's all I'm gonna say about that. Um, oh, all righty. Um well, I was gonna ask.

Speaker 1: 31:36

Oh yeah, the good question I got is because, let's just say we didn't follow that intuition. The opposite happens. We're too afraid. We're too afraid because what we think you know about other, how other perceives us. Right, we are very social, we love people. Approval, I mean. Sometimes I say I don't care. I mean not 10 times, I really don't, but there's that 10 percent chance. I don't mean it, I'm just saying that out of anger, just out of spite, or just put a facade. What if we're just too afraid? How can people overcome that when it comes to dealing with the intuition? Be more in tune with the spirit Actually, I can refrain, I'm going to stick to that for now Be more in tune with the higher self, or God.

Speaker 2: 32:23

I would offer that. A lot of times, people hear the voice. I think virtually everyone on earth, at some point or other, has heard that voice. There's nothing special about me. We have heard it.

Speaker 2: 32:37

The question is do you believe in yourself enough to act on it? Do you have the strength of character to say you know that doesn't work for me. I don't think I want to do that. Or if you have, let's say that you're a parent and your son or daughter wants to go do something, but you feel that it's inherently dangerous and they are dismissing all of your concerns. So this is where the critical thinking skill becomes very, very important, because we do not want a scenario where a parent turns AI onto their child and says you deal with the child or the teenager. I think that that is coming and I love my kids. My husband and I have three children and they're all adults now and they're living wonderful lives, and I had to use critical thinking skills with them, as they would approach me with reasonable questions. If a teenager asks a question that's not making you comfortable, or you don't want them to do it, or're gonna lay the hammer down and say, no, you're just shoving that kid in the opposite direction.

Speaker 2: 33:54

Let me give you an example. When my daughter was in high school, because Mexico's pretty close, she said, you know, she had her license and she had a car that she purchased Excuse me, we would never buy a child a car, a teenager a car. And she said you know, we would never buy a child a car, a teenager a car. And she said, you know, we're all going to go to Mexico and since I don't drink, I'm the designated driver and we're going to go and come back and I just want to make sure you're cool with it. And, of course, I have a five alarm fire going off in my head. So I said, okay, well, let's talk about your plan on this trip. What do I need a plan for? And I said, well, suppose someone has alcohol poisoning. They're young, they don't know how much they're drinking and they start vomiting in your car. Do you speak enough Spanish? And do you know where there's a hospital in Tijuana? Oh, my God, I didn't think of that. Or suppose one of them starts to sneak drugs back in, but you don't know that. Or they tuck something in your wheel, well, and you're crossing the border and you stop. What's your plan when you talk to Border Patrol, how do you plan to handle that? And there's this stunned silence. She said well, I'll tell you what my plan is. They can drive themselves.

Speaker 2: 35:01

I said, okay, maybe that's a really good decision, because when you, you can't possibly know, know or predict the actions of all of your friends or the things that could happen, especially when you have it's night in Mexico with teenagers and alcohol, this is a potential prescription for a lot of problems. And by not giving my daughter my fear, by being very calm and matter of fact, well, let's talk about these things and let's work through all of the what ifs. What's your plan for these things? You're a smart, intelligent young woman. Let's work through this.

Speaker 2: 35:42

She wasn't mad at me. She wasn't mad at her friends. She made a different choice and that choice will echo for the rest of her life, teaching her how to use critical thinking process for planning for a future. So, instead of me falling over the waterfall of fear oh my gosh I offered her a conversation without fear, recriminations or accusations, and her friends didn't go either. That's what was fascinating to me. None of them made that trip.

Speaker 2: 36:17

So did we save some lives that night? I don't know. Actually, I don't want to know. It worked out really well. All I'm saying is use critical thinking skills and access divine wisdom through this divine connection where you take a deep breath and you edit what you say to the person in front of you. You think about if I say this, how's this person going to respond? What is my plan? That is also an intuitive or psychic sense. Most people aren't going to call it that, but you can't just say, oh, I sense a ghost, turn that off and then yell at your teenager. You need to be able to incorporate the whole package into your day-to-day life and all of your interpersonal relationships. Does that make some sense?

Speaker 1: 37:09

No, what you say makes a lot of sense. I mean parents and young Gen Z adults, especially those of you that think that you know everything. Listen up here, don't you wish you had her as a mom? That just gives you all these what if? Rational scenarios and make you question it. Instead of just no, you will not go because I say so I'm mom, you're wrong, you're the child. No, that doesn't work, it's true.

Speaker 2: 37:40

You push them in the opposite direction, and I know this is not a show about parenting, but it doesn't matter whether it's your daughter, your son or it's like. My son desperately wanted a car and we made a decision that he and his father would spend an entire year shopping for cars so he could learn everything he could possibly learn about all different kinds of cars makes, models, condition, situations, offers and at the end of that year he was a different person. He got to spend time with his dad. They had a blast. It was a really happy memory and he wasn't punished, he was educated. It was a really cool experience.

Speaker 2: 38:27

So if you step back just a little bit and embrace a situation without fear, you're giving your family members your confidence, whether it's your husband or your parent or your sibling or an employee or a coworker. Back it up a little bit, don't give a snap answer. Ask some questions and if somebody says you're sensing something and they say, oh, you're crazy, you can come back and say well, what if I'm not? What if there's a little more to this? What if we need to pay attention? Those are important things.

Speaker 1: 39:01

Oh, yeah, they are very important. You see, you're not just making them intellectually better, you're making it emotionally better, socially better. I mean, it's a multifaceted approach. Yeah, just a simple shift to oh, you're annoying for asking for that car, wait till you're freaking 18 or whatever, or move out. That's the answers that they will get. They get yourself a freaking car Typical answers.

Speaker 1: 39:28

I'm not a parent, but I have heard many parents said similar things quick, snap answers and nine out of 10 times the child is going to do the exact opposite. Right, so you know, I look she's right here, I might even and shoot. I even did the exact opposite when my parents said no, and I got curious so no, but what if I did that Exactly? What if they're wrong? They're snap thinking Sometimes they're wrong and you know what I hate it when they were right, the consequences were bad. When they were right. But when they were wrong, but that was not good for me when they were wrong because it kind of fed my egos. Oh, they speak in nonsense, they just they just emotional. They don't know what they're talking about until they've been above the consequences and then I finally got what they were saying. I had to go that. I learned it the hard way as opposed to the more wise way. Question use critical thinking, make it to education experience. Don't just use the emotional retort or snapback or just you know, be oppositional and volatile at the situation.

Speaker 1: 40:39

You know this is not parenting tips. I'm not a parent, so who the heck am I? I'm just a guy yelling at the mic. But listen to Tina, at least she's a parent.

Speaker 2: 40:48

I have four grandchildren there you go.

Speaker 1: 40:50

Extra credibility right there. I got none here. So if you ignore me, I am perfectly all right with it, because I know, you know I I am not the authority when it comes to that. So I'm just being honest, I'm not. So I don't take offense to it. Just if you're gonna be at least smart, at least be skeptically smart. Listen to what tina has to say. It just ignore. You're gonna be at least smart. At least be skeptically smart. Listen to what tina has to say. It just ignored me.

Speaker 1: 41:11

I know this is weird coming from the host regarding parenting advice. That's why I invite people to do the parenting now. That makes sense to you listeners. I'm not authority for us. Yeah, I'm always a great uncle to nieces and nephews, but that's not the saying. That's part-time, but what is too fast? Just don't know. I just told my hey, take your dark kids back, or I got an easy way out. That's. That's nothing like being a mom or a dad. That's a completely different experience 24, 7 and you know, plus all right, as an uncle and I'll take care of the kids. That'll have it. That's a part-time job compared to. So there you go. That's your differences, people. And if you didn't realize that. Well, you know it now. Better late than never, okay, that's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1: 41:53

All right, I don't want to yammer too much because I want to get to this um spicy, spicy question to some of you, especially those of you who are just emotionally immature and just, quite frankly, stupid. But I want to ask this anyways, because I think it needs to be talked about, and we talked a little bit about it, um, off air, about, um, some of this, because some coaches don't recognize this. Don't be mad at them, all right, I'm just telling you this. Don't try to cancel, because they don't.

Speaker 1: 42:21

Each culture operates differently. Okay, you know, not everywhere is freaking western europe, united states or canada. Okay, not every. You know not everywhere is freaking Western Europe, united States or Canada. Ok, not, you know. Stop having that idiotic thinking all over the world.

Speaker 1: 42:37

If you're a true culturally competent person, you at least understand why. You know each country lives, behaves differently. Ok, so let's just get that. Well, you're actually a bigot if you think everything's going to be like the United States, western, differently. Okay, so let's just get that. Well, you're actually a bigot If you think everything's going to be like the United States, western Europe and Canada. That's actually real bigotry. So all right, and especially for you and this is me attacking more of the progressive wing or anyone who brags to be culturally competent but yet you want to shove your worldview on everybody's throats. That's why you get clapped back and that's why you look stupid in your debates. Okay, just saying All right, enough of my yammering, let's get to this question now. Is homosexuality, bisexuality and even transsexuality? Let's throw that in there. Is it caused by ghost possession, or is it genetics, or is it something that we need to study more on?

Speaker 2: 43:31

I think that's a really important question because homosexuality has been known about for at least two to three thousand years and it was well known in Greece and in Rome and it was, you know, that's primarily where we have evidence that it was something that existed. This question came up when I I had someone who I was I you know longtime friend, who is from India, and, uh, there are certain dialects and she was a person who was able to translate some of the different dialects and someone was angry at her because she was having difficulty translating the concept of homosexuality, much less transgender. There was no vocabulary in any of the dialects she knew for those words. That's not, oh my gosh, they were discriminating. It has nothing to do with that. They didn't have words for them because they didn't know what that was, and that's an amazing concept. And among Native Americans this was unknown. And again, this is not a judgment that's right or wrong or good or bad. Many, many, many clients in a variety of different persuasions. I've met some really really wonderful, decent people and they came in this way.

Speaker 2: 45:08

Now the question is is it possession? And having removed many a ghost from a person, it never caused them to not be, you know, a lesbian or a gay person. That didn't change that. That said, I had a very interesting conversation with a woman who, you know, is a lesbian and she has a very masculine presentation, shall we say Gorgeous woman, oh my goodness. She talked about the fact that her uncle died hours before she was born and she's always felt that he was with her. It was an extraordinary conversation. Now I did not have an opportunity to cross him over. She liked having him with her. I just thought that was fascinating, and did that cause her to be a lesbian? I simply don't know. It was a very curious situation.

Speaker 2: 46:09

Now, one of the other theories is that when a person dies and they come back too quickly and for some reason they switched gender. They may have loved having been a woman and now they're in a male body and they don't feel comfortable in the male body. They really loved being female and that creates this struggle within the soul. We're not talking about the hype we're focusing in on for that individual, for that soul, there is a struggle, and I think this may have taken place over time, but no one talked about it. I mean, there have been homosexuals in the Navy as long as there's been a US Navy period. I mean, this has never been new and everyone knew it. But those most this is before women were really heavily involved in the Navy. Those men were heavily respected and they did their job and they served their country and, you know, I had nothing but respect for them. They were very quiet about who they were and what their life was like. It was no one else's business and it wasn't like no one knew. Everyone was respected and that's just how it was.

Speaker 2: 47:30

What's happening now is that, as people understand the challenges that sometimes affect a person who is gay or who is homosexual, and then they're moving more into. They have relationships, they have marriages, they're having children and they are part of the mainstream flow of life and there's a growing level of acceptance and not seeing them any different anymore. That is a major element of progress. If someone thinks that they are possessed, use the crossing over prayer. Who knows what can happen. I don't know. I've seen situations where a couple has been married 20, 25 years and the husband wakes up one day and says I think I'm a woman now and I think that this has been exceptionally hard on people who have known that soul for I don't know 40, 50 years, their family, their spouse, their siblings that from someone who decides to go from one gender to another, and I honestly think that number is really, really small. It's getting a lot of press and hype but I think if we were to look at the real numbers of the people for whom this is a real situation, I think the number is quite small and it's private. If this is something going on inside of you, it's something with you and your family and how you work through it. Honestly, it's private.

Speaker 2: 49:02

I've met people and they are transgender. I would have no idea. I just knew them as whatever they were today and really liked them, worked with them and it's worked out really, really well and that person made the transition. They're fully invested and this is their persona and they're living it all the way. But I have had conversations with many of them about how hard it has been on their families and I've made a gentle suggestion that they have compassion for their families because so many times their families grieve the person who isn't there anymore. They loved their little girl, they missed the little girl they knew and now they thought this little girl was going to grow up and get married and now they're looking at you know a 40-year-old man and they're having a hard time with the transition. It's not that someone is against a person who changes their gender. It's that the transition for other people is really hard and it would be very helpful if the transgender community could have compassion for the friends and family who are having a hard time with the adjustment, just offering compassion to both sides of this coin.

Speaker 2: 50:24

More and more people are understanding the homosexual issue. Is it past life? Is it coming back too quickly? It can be all of those things and none of those things. There are many, many facets to why a soul is what the soul is. But when you love yourself and you allow the light of your personality to shine through and you know I'm a child of the 50s and who was the most gay person you ever met was Liberace. Liberace and long before Elton John, the fabulous clothes, his kindness, god, this man was so kind. He was beloved in his industry. He's just a really kind man. He knew what he was, he was proud of it, he made beautiful music and he was funny and he was true to himself and he was always kind, and I guess that doesn't exactly fully answer your question, but it might offer a slightly different view of it I mean, well, I did acknowledge um, especially before this.

Speaker 1: 51:33

Um, I did access beforehand. That's why I framed a little bit. Maybe this needs further study. That's why I said that at the end, because, look, I'm sure if you had the answer it would have been. You know, maybe try a cross pray If you think it's ghost possessed, like she said. If nothing happens, well then I'm not even sure that's going to knock out this. But all I got to say is it's interesting. More studies need to be done because, like I say, it's a very, extremely small percentage. This is getting a lot of the media attention.

Speaker 2: 52:06

It's a small number and it's hard on that soul to make the transition and it's hard on the family. This is a really, really challenging situation and if you're looking at it, wow, this is challenging and you're not judging it in any way, you're just saying it's hard on the family because they missed the person they knew. And it's hard on the person, who's never felt comfortable in a male or a female body. So you have to understand that if you came in with a very powerful male body and you're 6'4 and you have, you know, shoulders out to here, way out to here, and you're competing against women, that's going to create problems and I think that that has to be acknowledged and addressed and I think that that's why this is coming. Up and gentle discussions, compassionate discussions, acknowledging the challenges on both sides, can potentially bring people to understand each other a little bit more. But screaming and shoving things in people's faces isn't going to get us there.

Speaker 1: 53:18

You know that's a very rational answer, even though, of course, I'm disappointed. But we are still learning. This is, you know, there's still a lot to discover. You know it's a mystery, right? So, yeah, well, I would have liked a definitive answer, but you know what? Maybe this is a reason to explore more. This is a reason to, you know, explore this in depth, maybe try different tests.

Speaker 1: 53:45

But regardless of the discussion, I agree 100%. Compassion and gentle discussions. Lot of people just so emotionally immature or just, you know, your cognitive skills are on a deficient side. Just watch it from afar. Okay, don't, don't be part of the discussion. But those are. But those who are compassionate, gentle and clear mind, non-judgmental, you know, frame right, the frame of thinking, you know, I think those are the kind of people that needs that, not need. Those ones, I think should be in the discussion. Be the first wave, because the first wave has to be amazing. So we have a template about how it is done, as opposed to having, you know, the traditionalists versus non-traditionalists yeah, they're to shout, they're going to fight and they're going to call each other's names and that just destroys the discussion. So I agree with that.

Speaker 1: 54:49

It is a very reasonable take and it's not homophobic or transphobic. Homophobic, transphobic is oh, these people just burn. They're a mistake to life. That's homophobic and transphobic. And don't just clip this little clip. And that's homophobic and transphobic. And don't just clip this little clip and make me homophobic, transphobic. I know how some of you sneaky internet people are. Okay, no, I don't Look. They're there for a reason. There's a defined purpose that we don't understand. We don't know everything of the divine.

Speaker 2: 55:15

We don't know everything.

Speaker 1: 55:16

Let's be honest we, we don't, we don't, we just simply don't. So just have you know. If you think you know everything, you're an idiot, I'm just gonna say it like that. Or you're delusional, really, and I don't tend to know everything, and sometimes I say I don't know.

Speaker 1: 55:31

I wish I had the answer, but I don't, I don't know, you know you know, I can't come with an exam in mind, but there is quite there there is. You know, questions I wish I had the answers for, but we don't know everything. We just don't know everything. Maybe in the fifth dimension maybe we will know. I don't even know that. Ok, I don't know that. But that's the beauty of being a human right you don't know everything. So that's all I'm going to for that.

Speaker 1: 56:00

Um they, when I was a spicy question, she handled it very well. It was not an easy one. It was not. It was definitely not an easy one because there's no definitive answer that we could think of. You know, that's all I'm gonna say to that. So before we wrap this up, look, I'm to do one of the plugins first, as I got the book. Get this. Yeah, I can see the blue font clearly compared to the last episode, though it's purple. Get this nice glittering gold book, the Crossover Prayer book. She has many others. When she does her shameless plugin, she will tell about the other stuff Get this. And she'll say to you Erwinwin, this is what the cover looks like and, for those of you who are listening, it says a gold, gold glycerin with blue font.

Speaker 1: 56:47

It almost looks like someone professionally use a marker, perfect. This is like you know if someone was whose artist could write this clean and perfect. Okay and yeah, and let's make sure it's tina erwin. I'm just gonna spell the last name. I'm sure many of you could spell tina, it's e-r-w-i-n. It's like er, they put win next to it. Like you. Like you win the match and win. That's how you combine it. Bit silly. Come on, we could be silly here. People, any other plugins you want to tell the fellow listeners of yours?

Speaker 2: 57:20

I would say that, to develop your own intuition, start by, when you're driving, pay attention to traffic and imagine what the other people are thinking as you're moving in and out of traffic. Learn to listen to yourself and be kind to yourself. Be very kind to yourself, and the kinder you are, the more you'll relax, and the more you relax, the healthier you will be, and then you'll be opening up the pathways to hear the divine on even the most mundane, simple level. Look for the signs and the symbols. It just might save your life. And, elias, thank you with all my heart for having me on your show, and if people want to know more, they can look up ghosthelperscom. That's my website, and all my books are listed there and some other podcasts, and there are prayers that are audio as well, so thank you so much for having me. We always have a blast, don't we?

Speaker 1: 58:17

Yeah, I mean, it's just out of my kid-like curiosity.

Speaker 2: 58:21

Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 58:23

And I don't mind hearing the monologue. Look, for the most part I let the guests talk because I want you to know what they do and I don't mind long-winded answers. It's not a mainstream media kind of show. I ask a freaking loaded question. I expect her to answer it well in two freaking seconds. I mean, to me that's mental illness right there. That's mainstream cable right there. It's not that kind of show.

Speaker 1: 58:47

You get in here. You know it's supposed to be thoughtful. Yeah, it could be fun. I try to make it fun, except if it's really sad or, you know, very serious conversation. Those are the exceptions. Otherwise I'll try to shove a little um low fun in there. Let's make sure you're paying attention. And for those of you who are listening to audio, um, just, yeah, just find a quiet space to start with. I guess and even New York there are quiet spaces. Just, you know, don't have the, don't be glued to your phone that advice and don't be in love with the literal voice as well, because I think those are the biggest source of distractions for the 21st century. Exactly, all right, those, those are the most practical tips I give to you. This is from a non-spiritual expert, not a ghost liaison. That's. That's tina's type. That's the title I gave her. All right, um, you know, and I could call the probably the ghost diplomat. I I know diplomat is too weak because she does the best. One Compromise, you settle for less.

Speaker 2: 59:45

Oh no, no One time. Those liaison is better. I have to leave, they don't get to stay.

Speaker 1: 59:49

Yeah, so they are diplomat out the window. She's just a liaison relations. Do her job, that's it. So liaison is a better time.

Speaker 1: 59:59

So you see, I'm trying to be creative for you. Look, I don't mind being corrected. You know, try to. These are minor creative risks. So no diplomat, no diplomat, just ghost liaison, because she is there to do her job. Alrighty then. So all those is going to be in the link her website, her social media, youtube channel, all that good stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:00:20

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Speaker 1: 1:00:42

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