315- Calling Out Cowardice With A Feather with Carew Papritz

We push back on outrage culture and political hypocrisy with a low-tech symbol: the yellow feather. Carew Papritz joins us to share how shame, gratitude, and small acts of courage can restore integrity in public life, alongside stories from The Legacy Letters and life on the border.

• why the yellow feather calls out bully cowards without violence
• how The Legacy Letters teaches responsibility, humility, and truth
• why gratitude and reading build civility in a distracted culture
• where the anger machine profits from division across left and right
• immigration realities in agriculture, service, and healthcare
• parenting and work as foundations of character
• nonviolence, shame, and historical examples that reset norms
• practical steps to act: Feather Friday, local alliances, dialogue

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Yellow Feather Movement

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/04/25/opinion-yellow-feather-bullies-standing-up/

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https://thelegacyletters.com/

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Chapters

• 0:06 Newcomers And Setting The Stage
• 2:11 Introducing Karu Papritz And Legacy Letters
• 4:54 The Yellow Feather Movement Explained
• 9:18 Civility, Braver Angels, And Political Hypocrisy
• 17:30 Gratitude, Thank You Letter Day, And Reading
• 22:17 Symbolism Of Feathers And Calling Out Cowardice
• 30:12 Outrage Culture, The Anger Machine, And Media
• 38:14 Immigration Realities From The Border
• 49:05 Work, Character, And Parenting Gaps
• 55:54 Low-Tech Courage In A High-Tech World
• 1:03:40 Nonviolence, Shame, And Historical Lessons

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:06

Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, Elias. I have a newcomer here. You know, I gotta say, this has been the best season for newcomers, I have to be honest. They are beating some of the established guests. I don't know. I want to always end with the new question mark. I don't know. You know, some people say I'm a Scorpio, I'm a bit of a trader. I don't know if you saw the egg wackles alright. But alright, enough messing around. I have a guest here who's going to give us a movement. I think this is timely. I'm happy that multiple of these kinds of movements are happening. I'm part of at least two of those movements, even though it's a little drainy at times. I want to be honest. I'm part of Raver Angels trying to restore the temperature, have contentious debates while maintaining civility. I mean, people can be passionate. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just when you go with the ad hom and the nasty attacks and throwing names, you know, like Nazi, communists, all of this stuff. You know, I'm not going to repeat this, especially to my smart listeners. You heard this a thousand times already. So I'm prov well, me and guests are providing solutions. Let's just say that. And I gotta say, I gotta give a shout out to Michael Addison for suggesting Braver Angels. They're in all 50 states. They're doing a great job of what they're doing, bringing not just two opposite parties together, even restoring tensions within the party, because they're big tents. Dems got arg Democrats got arguments with each other, so are Republicans, especially in war. Ukraine war, Republicans are divided. Israel Hamas conflict, Democrats are divided, generally speaking. So I yeah, of course, little nuances and exceptions, but look, we don't we don't you know what it is, and we don't got time for that. You high IQ people, you correct me, okay? And you keeping me on my toes, which is good. Because like I said, I don't like just, oh, this episode's great or this episode sucks. That'll help. If you say this episode could be better because of ABC, or this episode's great because of ABC, that's helpful. That's helpful to me, okay? And I've said this ad nauseum. So, alright, I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag. And his name is Karu Paperitz. He's not just look, he is an author and he's even an education advocate where we need more education, not less. People who go for less education, you know those people are no good. I don't care what the context is. If you're anti-education, you're a problem. And this does have to be political. If you could debate about politics about how to solve that, I'm fine with that. Debating solutions, I'm fine with that. But if you're gonna just say slash things carelessly, well, you know what your administration is doing at right now. You're not gonna get a prize for it. It's very obvious, okay? And I'm against I don't mind specific targeted cuts, I'm for that. Because there's certain people that don't need benefits, I'm for that. But if you're gonna do cross-the-board cuts with no care, no thought, I have a problem. That's way too right-ling. And if the opposite side, the left goes too crazy with identity politics, that's too left-wing for me. I don't like that either. So I got my bone to pick with. So let me introduce. Let me let me be quiet because I want this guest to talk. Yes, a lot to share, okay? And a lot of good stuff to share. And I'm sure some of you can say to the chat, Chut up, house! Introduce a guest already. Okay, I heard you do my spirit. Okay, relax. Let me introduce him again. His name is Keru Papritz. And he's, you know, he's an author, but I'm gonna have him uh elaborate the introduction because I believe guests introduced themselves better. And he is, I think, the founder of the Yellow Feather movement, but we're gonna get more into that in detail. So go ahead, introduce yourself to my listeners and viewers. What do you want them to know about you?

SPEAKER_00: 3:51

Elias, this is what a great intro. And yes, I am a newcomer. All right. Hey, let's hear it for the newcomers. Here we go. All right. So again, my name is Karu Papritz. I'm the uh author of a book called, I guess we can do some patting on the back a little bit of it's called The Legacy Letters. And it sort of plays into all these things we're going to talk about today. The Legacy Letters is a fictional series of letters written by a father to his children, he would never live to see in these f and these letters become their practical, moral, and spiritual guidebook for the rest of their life. As a consequence, it's been an award-winning book. I'm very proud of that. But with that being said, I did not have children when I wrote this. My son was born at the end of this particular time period. And actually, the last letter I ever wrote in this particular set of letters was to him. And it we'll discuss that a little later because I think it plays into the whole idea of character, integrity, honesty, and responsibility. So that's an interesting idea of why I wrote this particular letter as the last letter in this. The yellow feather movement. This is an interesting one. So this is a peaceful civic movement that relies upon this symbol called the yellow feather. So why a yellow feather? Because it's the feather of you ready? Cowardice, of people who don't stand up for what's right or and to be able to speak the truth. And I I wrote a I wrote an op-ed, How a Million Feathers Can Save Our Republic. It was in the Chicago Tribune. I wish it was in the New York Times, but I guess what? It wasn't. So we'll good old Chicago takes it on. And uh basically it just talks about the idea of what it means to stand up to or have people stand up to bully cowards, a term that I put together. And that's the idea of both being a coward and a bully at the same time. And there's numerous examples of that in the world today. And and people that don't try to speak, quote unquote, the truth and be responsible and take responsibility for their actions. So I'm a big advocate of that. I love being, I know I'm I'm the one that's going on and on now. One last thing on education. I'm a big advocate of reading. I try to do everything possible to get kids to read. So I'm and I started National Thank You Letter Day, which is on number November 14th. Every year, we are the proud record holders of the world's largest thank you letter, world's largest stamp, world's largest envelope, the size of a high school basketball gym. The reason we did it was to promote gratitude, thankfulness, civility, and decency. And that's my story.

SPEAKER_02: 6:29

You know, a few things I want to say. Let me call out the New York Times. What's wrong with you? Okay. I gotta call you out. You've been dropping, you know, y'all been dropping the ball. I mean, you know, if I put an S in there, you know, you could you could be proverbial all you want. I got it. All right. But all I'll say this, New York Times, you gotta get it together. This is something you need here. What? He needs to be very liberal for you. Does he have to say, you know, throw white paint at Trump? That's what you want here? I mean, come on, New York Times. Props on Chicago Tribune, by the way. Yeah. Props, props to the, you know, even the op-ed? Not even that, New York Times, really? Uh, I don't know, New York Times. I don't know. I I you know, I was, well, I've never been their biggest fan, but I've always been kind of a supporter of them, especially their cultural section. But your politics, uh-huh. Get it together. Get with the times, get it? Get with the freaking times. Okay, enough of my rant. Um, you know, I gotta attack, I gotta look. I I'm not afraid to call out my state, my people, and I've criticized their website. You know, when the episode comes out, when it's already out, with Michael Butler, where I criticized New York State's website where I find it atrocious. And is really a smaller state that's moderately Republican, already doing better with that. I mean, I thought Dems were good with technology. What the hell? What the hell is going on with that? But whatever. All right, let's get to the now, let's get to the real stuff. Uh, I had to I had to rant about that. And shame on the you know, we need we need more thank yous. We need more gratitude. Very ungrateful, we're very depressed, we're very angry, we're very isolated, we're very distracted. We are filling the blank. That's real common sexual activity. You know, and there's a lot of answers you could put there. We're but we are not grateful, that's for sure. Yeah, for the most part. Uh you have to be exceptional to be grateful, that's not good. That's not good. I remember when I was young with my kitty days, if you want to call them, people were definitely more grateful. We was it was declining, but it was more slowly or surely. But now everything is insta-click, insta this, and we get insta-up set. There you go. When things don't get it.

SPEAKER_00: 8:43

Well put. Well put. I like that.

SPEAKER_02: 8:46

You know, and it's it's so ridiculous, it's so ridiculous, but all right. Let me not make this by my rant. Let me just get it together. Let's talk about let's talk about something more positive, because we need to talk about that. I I try I'm a rant, I'm a ramble, I love to rant too. So, what sparked this idea for for a movement? And it I well, you already answered why you chose the uh the fellow courage. It seems like it's more like counterintuitive, it's like you call out cowards instead of just representing um courage. Um, but yeah, feel free to build on that.

SPEAKER_00: 9:17

Yeah, no, it actually was one of these these, you know, I was thinking back in history about the when these feathers came out, and actually, it was a white feather initially. And the the British military, if they had a coward, they would give that person a white feather. And that was the feather of shame. It was, you know, so shameful. In World War I, women would give feathers to those that did not quote unquote participate as a soldier in there, so that was another thing, but it's sort of quasi-morphed when it came over to the US and became, you know, we all yellow was a coward, right? You know, and that became part of that. And so I decided, well, why couldn't we have a yellow feather? And I like your I like your thought about being counterintuitive because it's not only calling out the cowardice in somebody, but it's also a way to be sort of creatively be a have creative activity in terms of being able to stand up to something. So at the same time, and I loved, I loved the sheer lightness of it. It wasn't, it wasn't just in your face, it wasn't angry, it wasn't volatile, it was this, and with think of a feather, how beautiful, light, and delightful it is. And I sort of love the idea that if you were to put a feather in front of somebody, and we all understood that symbol, that archetype of what a feather could mean, I thought, wow, we could really create some sort of movement or method, and and how simple it would be. You could either email a feather, you could lay it down before somebody, and it would be a a mark saying, you know what, you are a coward, you need to stand up for for what it is that's that's right. And we all intuitively know what's right and wrong in the world. And it's not a whataboutism, you know, it's not a thing that's like, oh, I think, you know, it's relative here, it's not relative. No, we intuitively know. We know what's right, we know what's wrong. So that's part of this whole idea of let's let's get this these feathers out and send them and do whatever we need. Or how about just lay them down in front of people that that aren't standing up for us or not standing up for what they believe in? I mean, we got people who believe in it, but at the same time, we know, and again, we recognize hypocrisy, and there's one thing I can't stand, that's that's that's it.

SPEAKER_02: 11:33

And sadly, that is rich in, especially US politics. Hypocrisy, the double talk. Oh no, I'm gonna praise this one here. You know he does something atrocious, but since that since that atrocity came for the other side, oh, that's the enemy. You know, they both could commit atrocious. No, but but no, but my friend he was defending himself, you see, against the vicious, you know, these radical people. Yeah, I know I I absolutely agree with that. I've called out both sides on the aisle on different issues when they're just so hypocritical. It's so blatantly obvious that you know a person, and you know, I I guess I could give a shout out to my mother. Um, she she she could smell BS, just keep it a little clean, even without knowing the deep details of politics. I say, you know what, Mom, you'll know a lot about politics, but you should still be involved because you could detect BS, and we need more BS detectors in politics. We do because the I I think I think they all be millionaires because of how much we lie, but that's a whole that's a whole nother thing, right? And I I absolutely agree. We need more movements like this. Like like Braver Angels is more focused on restoring civility through conversations or contentious conversations, or even conversations that creates you know volatile reactions or passionate reactions for a little more positive word, you know. Uh but but this one here is you're just calling out cowards. So I can see some intersectionality, but it's also some difference. You're just calling out what's what's, you know, okay, coward, that's what's hypocrite, and yeah, we need poor people just gathering together on that. One thing I can see is that if they're very hyper partisan, they they're comfortable calling the other side out, but you're not comfortable calling their own. That's what I'm saying. So I just I just think I think we I mean, we just gotta be mindful of that in general. Even me as a as an independent. I mean, I, you know, I always feel like I was being a little too nice and independent and center, but I've been calling them out on their shenanigans. I said, okay, I feel like I'm fair and consistent. I mean, it's hard, it's hard to be consistent. I'm not gonna lie, it's very hard. If you think about it, it really it really is, but it's it's admirable. Don't just give up because it's hard, all right, people? Because we used to be used to have a lot more integrity than that back then, for sure.

SPEAKER_00: 13:48

Yeah, yeah, and I like that idea. I mean, the idea of what character character and integrity and responsibility. I guess one of the biggest ones is taking responsibility for the things that uh that you should own. I mean, in in this day and age of all things, I mean, that's one of the again, back to that that particular letter I wrote to my son. It talks all about that taking responsibility. Where is that gone? Where's that? It's just like out the window. And what? And what is character anymore? I mean, just character doesn't, it's it's it's social media post. It's all about persona, it's all about who can be the most outrageous. I mean, there's that's outrageousism. How about hey, let's use that word, folks, because that there's a lot of that going on. Let's see, you know, who can be the most sparkly and the biggest, you know, the the biggest person out there. It's not it's again, outrageousness is seems to be the norm anymore. And wasn't brought up in that era. Don't give a rat's patootie about it, you know. Just show me a good man and what that means, or a good woman.

SPEAKER_02: 14:48

So I agree. Both sides now have shown their outrageousness. I'm gonna call one on the Democrat side, and definitely one on the Republican side. Both of them are commentators. One was praising the death of a Republican, and then for the Republican side, they're outrageous. One of them says the N-word with the A and the E R repeatedly. And these kind of people get lots of attention. They both influencers, but they both are opposite sides. I would say the progress, you know, the far left and the far right, and they both got that issue, but they're outrageous on different situations. One was just like, oh, he deserved it. That's sort of the far left. One particular example of the far left. I'm not calling everybody on the left, but you do get your people in the far right, trust me, I know. And I'm not gonna say the name of that one because he already have too much the cool kids call clout, fame, and attention as is. He says the the N-word repeatedly and casually with a smile, with a smirk that let's just say a random guy that gets offended by that would have just gave him a good knock if he sees him in person. He has that smug look that you just wanna get violent, forget conversations, you just want to get violent. So people just got those those facial reactions. Not saying it's right, but keep pushing a button, it's gonna get so hot that you're gonna get burned. And that's not that's not what we want. And you're right, the outrageousness, the the click, the the rage bait, um, that's another one you can use. Yeah, it pissed it pisses a lot of people off, and it's this is not it's not what we want. Don't get me wrong. I don't care if it's like silly little things like comedy and over-the-top stuff, but the this has really spilled all over the place and politics and even sadly conversations that that kind of crap doesn't belong. Yeah, I like what you said about social media. Oh no, go right ahead.

SPEAKER_00: 16:39

No, no, no, no. I love what you're what you're saying too. And I think there's you know, there's another thing I call that, it's the anger machine. And it is just rife. And why do we have an anger machine? Guess what? Guess where you can make money? You can make so much money, and we say clickbait and this and this and this, but we gin this stuff stuff up over and over and over again. And at the end of the day, it's like, well, let's follow the money. Where are we going with this? Guess what? We're that anger machine just is rife. Again, left and right, both ways. You know, I I I probably would say there's a bit more focus on, well, I wouldn't say it can go both ways. And if I'm going to be honest, I have to watch. I'm probably a little bit more progressive on some of these things, but I also have to check myself at the door and I have to say, hey, guess what? We need to be honest with where that anger is coming from and why they're doing it. So, you know, that's but my progressivism is probably what's considered center left, center, and center right now. I mean, I stood still and the rest of the world went woo the other direction.

SPEAKER_02: 17:46

So, like I said, this podcast does not discriminate if you're Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Progressive. I don't, I what I would attack and be critical is are you sure that's the right idea? Are you sure that's because look, some ideas I agree with progressives, and there's ideas I actually agree with um Republicans. The problem is when they both go too far, I said you you you lost me. Just generally speaking. And um, I say identity politics, when the left kept pushing that, you lost me. When the re what's what the Republicans say, oh, you're arrested too much migrants. I said I only agree with criminal, with criminals, only criminal migrants, which is not even the majority, they they should go. Not the ones that are trying to do their best, work hard, and all that. I I mean, no, I and I'll say those who neglect getting their papers filled out, I will have to agree with the deportation. You you had you had some time to fill that out. And I would say more than 10 years. Some say five is minimum. I give them like 10, 10 years. But if it's been more than that, you haven't at least gotten that together. Well, you you know, I I don't know what to tell you. You should have asked someone who knows about this. I'm sure you got a relative, or there's even the internet. Is this I mean, if you're talking about like 1990s, yeah, I could understand. I would have been far more sympathetic. But there's resources out here, migrants. And if you know the state's not for you, because not all states are very receptive of migrants. Do you try try your best to move or be with your relatives? Like I help you out, or no, or no, have a lawyer friend, somebody, you know, because look, I don't want you to be deported because you're being deported mostly because of the political climate. Not the criminal ones, I don't care about you, get deported, even get shot. I don't care about y'all.

SPEAKER_01: 19:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 19:24

But the but there's a lot of them, but for the most part, immigrants are definitely uh a positive.

SPEAKER_00: 19:30

That's yeah, 100% agree with you. Guess where I live? I live on the border in Arizona. So this is so relevant to, you know, I I know these guys, I've been around you know, these people. I you know, I have friends of mine who go down in El Gallas all the time, cross the line, as we like to say. And it's it's fascinating to see it. I mean, it's interesting. Like we lived, we quit doing the green card for farming in the late 60s. Meaning you could just get a card, you come over, and you you know, you're able to come back to you know, go back to Mexico essentially. And it was really fascinating about that because it set up this this hypocrisy of, well, why don't we we want them to be able to go back and forth. And for whatever reason, we stopped doing it, and then it became this this this punching bank. Yeah, you wouldn't you weren't, you know, you're gonna be too nice to them and we don't want them, and back and forth and back and forth, and look what we have now. So we've never solved this problem legitimately, and and we've had we could have solved part of it in the last election. You know, again, that's the last election, but for the most part, it yeah, immigrants are the heart and soul of how we're able to do the grimy, dirty, crappy jobs in America. And I'll tell you what, it's really true. And you want to know here's something wild. Here's something wild. So there are sort of four major parts to who takes over the crappy jobs in America. So we've got not the crappy jobs, but you know, the low-paying jobs. So we've got agriculture, we've got uh the the uh service industries, you know, the inter tourism and whatnot, we've got the healthcare industries, and we've got sort of everybody else. And when you ask somebody, okay, what's the the highest rate of the immigrants or immigrants or or people that are want these jobs? And most people say agriculture because of, you know, their ants picking fruit and whatnot. Guess what? It's the healthcare industries. Would you have guessed that? Probably not a thousand years. And the reason, and and what I like to say to people, I go, think about this. Most of the people that are in the homes that take care of your parents, the rest homes and whatnot, those are the people that are taking care and wiping the back ends of your folks and whatnot. You take those away, and guess what? This is what we have. Not saying right or wrong on those immigration issues, but we can do a much, much better job at figuring this out.

SPEAKER_02: 21:57

I agree. I mean, you just saw one example. I mean, some states call it differently here. I realize that home health aid or home attendant, whatever terms you want to use. I realize different states call it that, even though it's just it's the same job. Yep, yep, sometimes interstate lingual, it's a little different. That's that's the beauty of America, for better or worse. You know, you know, you know, they may call it one thing, and even something like soda, pop is called that different states, and so you know, so that's that's the interesting part of America. No, not everybody uses soda, you know, and you it it it is interesting, the the interstate thing. But to your point, um, yeah, they they are the replacement of the low-wage workers. You know, there are certain Americans that do take those jobs, but let's be clear, they don't last long because they they find something better and they leave. And I'm not it's not right, I mean, generally speaking, it's not right, the job condition should improve. That's my honest answer. Uh what you're pointing out is the reality. That's the the that that's the reality of it, that they have jobs.

SPEAKER_00: 23:02

Yeah, and alas, I'll tell you something other funny. And and again, you know, I I should sort of let people know I cowboyed, meaning I worked as a cowboy for a number of years, yeah, along the border. So I'm very, very familiar with all this um and and how people work and and what and and sort of the lay of the land relative to that. So so for those of you probably seeing me right now, you're going, well, where's your cowboy hat? Trust me, I wear it 97% of the time. Do I wear my boots to bed? No, not yet, but you know, but yeah, yeah. But one of the fun things I get to do is so if I'm traveling, traveling around or going to wherever, and someone will come to me, they'll say you're in an airport, and they'll say, Ah, where are you from, Texas? I go, please, you know, it's I'm from Arizona. We're not not anywhere who wears cowboy boots is from Texas. Thank you very much. Pretty much like if you're a New Yorker, you know, everyone's from New York, right? Until you have to say you're from the Bronx, right? Oh, then I give it up. No, I'm sorry. There he is. And uh, but anyhow, so what I like to do, I like to sort of get people to think. That's if if someone says to me, wow, I never thought of it that way, God, I've done my job, right? I think, I think you're along those same lines. So what I'll say is, oh, you know, I'll talk about Arizona. Well, how's that border situation going? I know where they're going with this, and I go, oh, you know, it's I said, Yeah, it's it's coming along, you know, we're we're we're taking care of this, that, and the other. I'll say something, and again, I'm not being inflammatory or anything like that. And I'll go, but do you want to know what's really great? I'm so happy that this is happening. They go, really, oh yeah. And I go, I go, finally, we can get our kids back into the fields. And they go, what? I said, well, I want my I want my kids to know how it what's like to work uh, you know, in agriculture and picking fruits because I'll pay them more. I know it sounds funny, but I I'm willing to pay, I don't know, maybe$7 for a head of lettuce or something so we can get Americans working in the fields. I mean, what do you isn't that great? And they'll look at me like, what are you talking about? I said, my kid would never work in the fields. And I go, well, I don't understand. Well, then how are we gonna?

unknown: 24:58

Heh, huh?

SPEAKER_00: 24:59

And I'm really seriously? Well, then who's gonna work in the fields? Are you kidding me? You haven't solved that problem? I don't say that part. But then, and usually I have to catch a flight or something and go, ah, well, just think about it. I'm off and running.

SPEAKER_02: 25:12

No, no, well, you say I'm from the Bronx. They'll know my current location. That's fine. So that's those clarification people, but no, but uh, all of um the officers, I do get what you're saying. I mean, kids, I mean, kids don't pre- young people don't appreciate work. I think I was the last millennial generator. Don't get me wrong, I didn't like the jobs I did. I mean, I volunteered working for housing, you know, picking up all kinds of garbage you could think of off the streets. Not a fabulous job at all. And there was times I almost caught diseases because I was a little careless. It's a good thing I had a caring co-worker who just said, Oh, you need to wash your hands. I ran to the bathroom so fast, I drowned my hands in water for 10 minutes straight. Look, I don't care if you call me I'm a paranoid New Yorker. Yes, I am, because I want to live. I don't want to die. I don't have a stupid death, okay? I don't care. You call me cow, I'm coward in that sense. Yeah, I don't want to die. I drowned my hands. I did so you would have thought I had ghost hands for say it was so white, so pristine, white guy. That's how much soap I drowned on it, and I clean it. Oh, though the water was very dark. Oh goodness. Yeah, it was just, oh, but you know, they're not fabulous jobs, but you need to build character. Because look, these these some of them I'm I'm gonna go sound like a boomer. Yeah, go call it, go call me boomer. These kids don't appreciate anything, they just want to be on their little smartphones and just throw stupid AI-generated memes and things like that, and they don't appreciate work, and some of them have to bring their parents to the interview because they don't know basic job etiquette. I mean, uh, this is not to bash all Gen Zers. Some of them do know, but there's a significant portion that don't know it, and it's actually concerning. I used to just laugh and just say, wow, they said the millennial generation was screwed. But yeah, you know, it's just it's actually just quite sad because we are going in the wrong direction. So you're a you kind, you're our I'll say alluding to the to the young, not getting that hands-on character building work experience. That's what you were alluding to, and I I agree. I I see where you were coming from. I was about to be shocked, but I said, no, that actually makes sense. Yeah, and guess what?

SPEAKER_00: 27:18

And this is even wilder yet. Guess where that apple falls from? That's the parents. How come the parents aren't doing this? I mean, where where does that and that that becomes a whole nother you know conversation in and of itself? It's like they're learning, and again, your primary people, you're learning from our folks, your parents, and if that's not being taught, then that apple is definitely falling very, very close to that tree.

SPEAKER_02: 27:40

You know, it's yeah, no, um, you know, I got another question. We were talking about A, we talk about social media and all of that, and and even the I generated, yeah, because that's has dominated so much of the conversation. It really has. So why I mean, why do you believe the simple but very humane symbol like the yellow feather is gonna cut through all this? They say noise. I'm gonna call it a mass distraction.

SPEAKER_00: 28:06

I love I love that. Yeah, noise or mass distraction. You know, this is called politically high tech, right? Think about the lowest tech thing you could have out there: a feather. Think about the beauty of again, back to this idea of the beauty of a feather. Low tech as you can get. And especially, no, we I mean, again, guys, one of the call yellowfeathers.org, go check it out. But the whole idea behind this is that you can literally send in or drop feathers there. I mean, how about you know what it sort of reminds me? And for those of you that have never seen this, and I hope you get a chance to, look at the Tiananmen Square massacre in China, and look at the guy that stands in front of the tank. And I think about that almost, you know, anytime I'm thinking about this, this sort of low-tech, this putting a feather in front of somebody calling him out, and how powerful that is. That and and to this day, no one knows who that is. Isn't that that's fascinating to me? They never discovered who that was or whatever happened to him, but he stood in front of that tank and in front of all the other tanks, and that was the most powerful symbol. Again, low, low tech. It was one man against all of these tanks in this massacre. Just powerful as it gets. And so those are the things I think that are that are that if we do use something, I mean, we could use other feather, we could use almost anything else, but the yellow feather, if that got laid down in front of somebody at a town hall, it's like, we're calling you out. And they'll go, what is this? It's like, shame on you. Tell the truth, shame on you. Don't be a coward here. Stand up, you know, do the job of of being a representative for us, you know, if we're gonna talk about the representatives and instead of just kneeling down and and and taking it, like, you know. I mean, it's just it it stuns me that that that and and I want to say something about standing up and The idea that, you know, they're not big acts that you have to do in this world. The community of being of of standing up to people, the more people we do that that do this together, it's it's so much more powerful. And it doesn't take big acts and like we talk about kindness, you know, being thankful, being having gratitude or whatever it may be. It can be as simple as a thank you. It can be simple, you know, simple as that. But let's think about what it means to literally put a feather in front of somebody and they'll go, huh? Huh? What's that? And we'll tell you what it is.

SPEAKER_02: 30:35

Yeah, no, you know, I think some people lost, you know, interpreting symbols and all of that. So I think you might have to educate, especially I would say, you know, definitely not. You not uh I don't know, my generation is like 50-50. Some understand it, some don't. You could tell us by giving the feather. Or, oh, what wait, what are you supposed to mean? Word, or what is this? What do you mean by this? Um, you know, and you know, it's and the Gen Z forget it. You give them the feather, they probably so distracted with the smartphone that the feather drops. I don't know. Some some of y'all would get it. It's just it's just look, we are so distracted, and that's always bringing up the social media thing. And now just social media, and if for the more established folks, you know, like 40 plus whatever, you got the cable TV doing some of that rage bait and all that for you as well. Not as not just social media I call out, even though that's becoming more prevailing than the other, because there, you know, people people are banning cable. Cable is unnecessary, expensive for most young people, and I agree with that. Um with stereotypical millennial on that, you know, we make streaming more popular. And yeah, we just we just get we just get distracted, watch our shows, and then we we forget about it. We need to be more vigilant because all it takes is one generation to lose so much rights, and the only way I think is gonna be undone, and I hate to say this, it's probably gonna be war at this point, and I don't want that to happen. A big bloody conflict.

SPEAKER_00: 32:05

Right, not at all. No, and you know, one thing I think along those two, I don't want to go to the war because that's that whole thing is is is a is a is chaos compounded. But when you have movements, when you have what the s social media can do best is create courage can be contagious, okay? Think about these protests that are out there, and and if you have not just one people, two people, five, four or five, or if you have feathers like not just one person, you can have one person, but I will tell you, I am so moved by people that are courageous people with either small acts or large acts. It doesn't matter to me. When you stand up to what you know is, again, the word of the day, a bully coward. And I that's right out of this, this particular op-ed. And I say, you know, they they both go together. Bully, because to be a bully is to be a coward. You want to intimidate, you want to overrule, you want to, you know, you want to do they thrive on intimidation. That's exactly what you do. And until you stand up to that, but and sometimes it's a physically standing up to them, sometimes it's a again, like the the fella in Tiananmen Square, sometimes it's just a matter of what they did in Chicago and said, Yeah, you're not coming here. You know, I've I've actually thought, why don't why don't you just everyone wear white and just lay down in the streets? And there it is, you know, don't get walked on there and take the take the heat there. I mean, this is what Gandhi did, you know, in nonviolence. I mean, that was an incredible movement. They brought down the British Empire. The British Empire with it, and they used actually the the the truth, they used the they used the shame that the British Empire felt. And that's the other part of this, is calling out shame on people. There was in the House Un-American Committees, for those of you that are history-bound, right? The 1950s, the whole communist scare and whatnot. And how did they bring down what's his name? Joseph McCarthy, right? And what did the guy say? His name was Joseph Welsh, and he said to this guy, have you no decency, sir? Wow. And it stopped everyone. Literally at that moment. Took one man to say, Have you no decency?

SPEAKER_02: 34:20

Yeah, and I will say, I'll add another thing for bully. They are cowards because they pick targets that are convenient. Yes. They're gonna pick, they're not gonna pick the big strong one that can defend themselves. They go after the target of convenience, which means they're afraid of retaliation. So I agree. Bully. That's why I love that. I love that term, people. Bully cow. I don't care. I'm gonna force you to tattoo it in your brain, alright? Good. Go, you know, go. This is good stuff here. And then if you don't think this is good stuff, go ahead and expose your stupidity in the comment section. Alright? Or come up with a very smart disagreement.

SPEAKER_00: 35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 35:02

You know, remember, if you say something offensive, YouTube cancels you. I don't cancel you. So just keep that in mind. And Rumble, do do whatever. Even say something offensive. You're a 99% chance you're gonna be fine. Rumble has a much higher threshold when it comes to canceling people. They have canceled, but it they have a much higher time. I think you have to kill someone. That's how high it is. But they don't care. They say neo-Nazi, even racist stuff, they they let that fly. Um that's the difference between YouTube and Rumble. Okay, I got both. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 35:33

Yeah, and you know, one of the interesting things is when you talk about freedom of speech, so freedom of speech is a really interesting concept because much like and back to history, there was like some French general said wars are made on the creases of maps. You know, it's like, oh, where's this at? You know, they couldn't even see where they're at anymore because and so much of law, much of constitutional law, is made in places that you really don't want to go. Look at the Scope G versus the United States. That was Scope G, Illinois, where the neo-Nazis paraded through a largely Jewish area. And you know, it does that does that portend to my idea of decency and civility? Not at all. But but this is what you get to do in the US, is you get to be a dick. I'm sorry, let's call it what it is. And that's and and I don't like it, but but the slippery slope of of free speech is that who can say and who can't. It's not it's not up for grabs. Do I like the the responses that people had when when when recently we had the gal the gal, the guy that got that killed, and I'm not gonna say names and all that. And you know, people are coming, oh, you should have done that. It's like, no, no, no, stop. Stop at a certain point, you have to grieve, and then you can go on and be a political asshole at that point. But but you know, there's a time and a place to say, let's stop, let's honor what we honor, and after that, uh yeah, I don't know. I that's that's but that's me. I I tend to comport myself more toward being as finding civility, finding common ground, finding decency, because what's the opposite of that? Not interested. Not interested in the opposite.

SPEAKER_02: 37:24

You know, it starts with the V people, you know, and death destruction, all of that. Look, uh look, that that's all the hints you're gonna get, okay? That that's your that's your dark picture, right? And I'm trying not to do that. Always price people say, Oh, you're so dark sometimes. I said, Well, I'd rather be truthful telling you what darkness is as opposed to lying, give you Disney um fantasy crap and say, oh, don't worry, the fairy's gonna come and disappear all the problems away. It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Yeah, this is for the smart and the strong. And I said it with this guy who acts happy with his stupid business. Okay? Yeah, I'm gonna say stupid. And I gave him a verbal, verbal responding too, because I didn't agree with him at all. It was so, he was so happy for me that he actually triggered me. Alright? It's okay, it's America. You could get triggered, you could choose to ignore, but you don't have to write to pound someone to death. That's where it becomes a problem. And that is the slippery slope that he's referring to. Yeah, but can you call, I mean, can you call people names? Yeah, uh, sure. But but if that's that slippery slope, your event you can learn fertilize violence if you keep doing that. So that's something you gotta take in. And it's not completely freedom of speech because private companies can just remove those people. And a lot of people have lost jobs over the commentary of that guy that got destroyed. I'm not saying his name again. You pay attention to episode 309, because I already talked about his name and not just that, and Democrat politician got killed to make sure it's covered both sides. Because it's not just the right, even though the right is giving too much celebration to this guy, by honest opinion. And yet the two Democrat senators in Minnesota, who I don't know, to be honest, I want to know who they are, but the principle is have decency when it comes to their death as well. Don't make it hyperpartisan. And I gotta call out the current administration. There celebrate him like he's the next Martha Luther King Jr. Newsflash, he is not. May he have the potential? If he was alive, maybe, but he's gone. Can you disagree with him? Sure. He was pretty disagreeable. I disagree with him 70% on the good day. On the bad day, it was 95%. Alright? I didn't agree with a lot of his stuff. Um, some things he did say were not they were not great. Let's just say it it he he could have he could have articulated himself better. And that's why I would say if the right wants someone who's more decent, has some decorum, I will say officer Brandon Tatum. He addresses people calmly, wherever he disagrees, he's part of the right, but he has some of that decorum and all that compared to, you know, the guy. And I'm just gonna use what soft park call, you know, refer to him, master debater. And I have to say it's slow, because I'll say quick. It sounds like something else. All right, come on. I mean, just it doesn't take much imagination. Just get this that's it, you know. I'm happy I'm making this um enlightening and funny. That means I'm getting much better. I'm getting a bit better meshing my craziness together. But um, I think you already touched on this, though, because we talked about courage and responsibility and integrity. I like I think it's a good transition. How can it do that? Is there go ahead?

SPEAKER_00: 40:43

No, I you know what? I was gonna say something real quick here. Go ahead. I wanted to do this, and if you don't mind, and it's okay if we don't, but I wanted to read that that letter I wrote. And it's a quick, it's a quick read. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead, go ahead. And so this is it's called On My Boy Becoming a Man. And so this falls directly. It talks basically about everything we were doing this. And and it was interesting when I wrote this, because again, last letter I ever wrote, and my son, he was an infant, he was, you know, he's I'm writing to, or I'm not writing to, but he's up on the table and I'm typing away and all this. And I'm having problems getting to this the sweet spot of this particular letter. Uh, because that's for every single one of these letters, there was always an emotional tug or pull that really worked. And so I said, I I asked him, I said, hey, I said, can you help me out here? I really need help on writing this letter. And he goes, he goes, and I go, Oh, oh, write the letter to you. So that's what I did. So this is on my boy becoming a man. And and what type of man should you be, my son? A good man. Above all else, strive to be a good man, and you do not become a good man overnight. Much like a big solid Douglas fur, you must learn to withstand all manner of winds, rain, lightning, sun, and even fire year after year after year, and still stand tall and true. A good man in your papa's book is a great man. One who constantly strives to be the best of man to himself and to others, because the world can never have enough good men. And what makes a good man, my son? A good man is being fair in both your words and your actions, when you admit being wrong, and then write that wrong. A good man knows when he's been humbled and learns from his humility. Being a good man means to speak with sincerity and love with certainty. A good man will try to act wisely by thinking first and then acting. A good man tells the truth. A good man lives for the joy in life and the happiness of being alive, not shackled to the wants of the future or the regrets of the past.

SPEAKER_02: 42:46

Hope you were listening to that, as serious and viewers. I hope he was really listening to that. You want no idea what a good man is, instead of listening to I'm gonna call out two people on the right. This is I think this is the I don't get me wrong, I disagree with the left's perversion as well, um, but you know what that is. And there I have plenty of right-wingers are eloquently point that out. But two of them on the right are shaping out in young males' minds, and they both are have a certain level of imbalance. Let's go with Jordan Peterson. High intellect, low integrity. Oh, I don't know what a Christian is. Am I a Christian? You say I'm a Christian. He didn't want to own it. This is why he's failing. This is why his influence has crashed down. And to be honest, he he kind of deserved it. There are certain things I agree with him. He was trying to teach men to be nice, good, and all that, but there were certain things he had a problem with. I would say integrity was one. He didn't all he didn't own up. So high intellect, low integrity. And if you want to measure masculinity, I would say moderate. I'm saying moderate masculinity. And then now we got the other one. And if you can figure out who this bald guy is, I'm gonna eventually give you his name. Andrew Tate. High masculinity, extremely disrespectful, hyper aggressive. These are the ones that happened, well, Jordan Pierce has lost another, but Andrew Tate is still shaping some young man's minds, not in a good way. There's certain things I agree with on the history and all that, but his messaging, especially his style, it's very controversial on its face. It's just very aggressive, hyper-aggressive, not just aggressive. Certain aggression is okay, but it's hyper-aggressive and it's disrespectful, and he even puts women down. Yeah, it's pretty misogynistic. And before I had a neutral opinion, but now I'm definitely leaning towards the negative the more I listen to him. And I don't want to pass the side, I had a mixed opinion. I'll show you me kind of well. But no, the more I dig into it was like, yeah, I'm staying away, and I'm gonna join the the anti- the anti-Andrew Tate train on that one. I gave him a shot, I was fair. I was like, eh, yeah, man. So I changed my mind here. It's not me being a hypocrite, I changed your mind. Uh he's not a good role model. And time and time again, it has been proven. Follow the truth, people. Or you can live in denial. Being a good man is also facing truths, even when it's difficult.

SPEAKER_00: 45:11

Even when it's difficult, you know, that's so true. There's a last part to this, and I I actually was on the next page, and it goes to something I want to bring up, which is a good man a good man defends those that cannot defend themselves. A good man knows the difficulty of being a man, knowing the fall from grace is always near at hand, and thus is always striving to make himself a better man. And it's I've always I was brought up with the idea that you defend those that can't defend themselves. And there was there was an example this once, and it's it was really interesting. It was and I was trying to come up with examples of of when do you defend someone. I really had to sort of think back in the time machine of this. And one example stood out. I was at a bar, and it was an old cowboy bar type of deal, and this guy was picking on this, this, this other cat there, and he was just really getting on doing it, and he was a big fella, and I just said, you know, this this isn't right. And it really, it really bothers me when I see a bully coward because I know this guy's a, he's gonna bully this guy into a fight. He's gonna do something. And I just said, the classic thing, you said, hey, why don't you pick on somebody your own size? You know, and of course he turns to me like, okay, let's go, let's let's go take it outside. And I was like, oh crap, I'm really screwed now. And I turned to the guy and I said, That's fine, we'll take it outside. But I said, My grandfather comes from he comes from Scotland. He said, the tradition in Scotland is you always have a drink first. Before you take the guy out, and he's just, he goes, I'm not gonna this, I'm not gonna this my grandfather says, This is this is what you do. And he says, Okay, so we'll have a drink. And I said, you know, so I was like a shot of whiskey or a shot of what and he goes, okay, you're right. So hey, you know what? I'm gonna start a new tradition. I'm gonna start, I'm gonna buy you two drinks, and I'm gonna have two drinks. Oh, you know, two drinks later, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then after, you know what? Let's that's actually both of us start a new tradition. Let's buy each other a drink. So guess what? He's sloshed, I'm freaking sloshed, you know. And at that point, he goes, you know, uh, you're you're a nice guy. That is uh and he completely forgot about it. And he was, he was, you know. Anyhow, I talked myself out of it. We gotta have a fight, we're both drunk, and everything was good. And uh, that was my yellow feather moment.

SPEAKER_02: 47:36

How ironic. The beer was the salute, it was the liquid of peace at that moment.

SPEAKER_00: 47:40

The liquid of peace! Did you just say that? Did you just say that? Look at that. You're all right. You're that's it. It's going to the next op-ed, the liquid of peace.

SPEAKER_02: 47:51

Go ahead. Go ahead, take it. I I have a copyrighted, so you can take it. Take it, tell you why you can't. Oh, no, no, no. Go ahead. I want you to continue to be successful. Continue to write those op-eds on a serious note. Yeah. Take it because, you know, it's yeah, ironically. Normally, you know, if you see films in some situations, it'd be it'd be a bunch of fists that's not, you know, well coordinated and wobbling daubblin's and pissed drunk, and then two sorry butts is just on the ground. Whatever that it is it it is it is dumb, man. I ain't gonna lie, I used to be an alcoholic, and I was and all I'm gonna say is I had two characters. Either I was extremely comedic or I was extremely scary. Like scary one was not afraid to fight. One little thing would have ticked me off, and then the extremely comedic, I was just so outrageous. You talk about outrageous comedy. I would say the most darnest things and the most uncensored things, and people would have thought I was just you know, you some of the things we're saying, oh misogynistic, racist, and all of that. I was uh I just say it's a joke. You know, just just just separate the B and then the itch. You know that puts, you put that together, you know that is. I I call men and women that. I said, men are that too, believe it or not. They can't handle their emotions. Hey, my voice got real deep, my eyes got real big, scary big. That's a guy made a mistake with you. You had a sex trade, you know, some crazy stuff coming out of my mouth. And and I really do believe freedom of speech. That's why I'm anti-wolf cancer culture. Yeah, people are gonna have dumb moments. They they should get penalized for it, but just don't keep um, you know, of course, doing that um again, because if we do it again, it's a it's a chronic issue that's beyond us. Nah, I'm not saying definitely don't support what I do. This is this is a this is a good example of do what I say, don't do what I do here because it's the it wasn't great. And I was actually scared off my family. That was the my ultimate epiphany. I have to stop because normally I'm the most responsible, caring one. I turn to a different person. And you know, and you know, we talked about spirituality, you know, different spirits do kind of come in and it opens that portal. Sounds wacky to you. I think you're wackier for not at least trying, at least trying to investigate it at least. Yeah, I'm not saying that my spirit change your mind. Just investigate at least. Maybe be convinced, maybe not. That's entirely up to you. I I really don't care. But hey, look, the liquid of peace. Liquid of peace. There we go, brother. There you go. Liquid of peace. And do not copy this at home, people. Not just kids, people. Because adults do that.

SPEAKER_00: 50:35

Do not do this at home, please. That's especially with your size, okay? Let's not do that.

SPEAKER_02: 50:41

Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Oh, you know, you're not David versus Goliath here. You're not blessed by God. They both the devil's having fun with both of you. Okay, that just means just you know, put my little Christian hat. Um, yep, so that's all I'm gonna say about that. And I don't pretend to be a perfect one because we trust me, we all for sure at the glory of God. Doesn't matter what's in we got, we all fall short. And that's why we gotta stay, that's why we don't we don't judge and act better because we all fall short in glory. Right now, that's the book of Romans. I'm not gonna be pretending all the verses and all that, but I remember them heart by heart, and I read the Bible twice. Yes, you could criticize my memory, I don't care, but I know about God more than you. I know that for a fact. But hey, all right, enough of me bashing my pseudo-audience. Um I mean, how can it how can this movement increase, I think, integrity and courage and response? I think that's the only way I could frame it because you already talked about that it the intent is that, but how does it uh reset uh I think the better way to just say how does it tie into that? Let me just ask you.

SPEAKER_00: 51:42

Into the feather idea, right? We're talking about that in general. I I think because I think it's how do you okay, let's let's phrase it this way. How do you punch a feather? Okay, there's no way to do it. So it automatically is nonviolent. And that's I mean, when you think about Martin Luther King, when you think of Gandhi, I mean, they took it on the nose. Man, there's guys beating on them. And look at, I mean, look at uh what uh Martin Luther King went through and the dogs that are ripping at him and then broken bones and concussions on there. I it was it was horrific, horrific to see. So I think what happens is something of this nature is if if it's not like you say, it's not only calling out cowardice, it's also being courageous and saying to people, I'm gonna call out this thing and I'm gonna do it in such a way that it's going to be peaceful and it's going to be civil. And I actually don't have to say anything. I can just drop it right in front of you. Dropping the mic? No, it's actually quieter than that. And then walk away. If that's all you do, how powerful. I would love to see. Please come. We have a thing called hashtag feather Friday. Okay. Go on Instagram, check it out. And it's just people who are, you know, again, getting the movement going, people who are actually doing this and and bringing it about. So if you've got a situation where you're, hey, I'm gonna drop this feather, here we go. And I know some of you guys go, I'm gonna make fun of this whole thing. I go, hey, that's fine, that's your prerogative. But we're talking now about sort of your civic responsibility in light of people that are taking those those things away from you that are really important in life. And I know I'm being sort of soft-handed about that, but you will lose your rights if you don't stand up for them. And that's why this courage is contagious. That's why the more people that do this, this is one act of a million different acts we could do. But guys, this is go ahead, drop a feather. Let's see them, let's see someone kick it, punch it. They can't do it.

SPEAKER_02: 53:52

Yeah, but I will drop that link in the description as well. Um that standard practice. Listen, I think we need more people to join us. I am obviously for it, and we we definitely need more of this. God willing, or actually, and even people willing, that's not a thing, need people's will, believe it or not, to get so tired of this hyperpartisan or actually take a cool turn. 2028 is gonna be uh a year. I hope so. Is it guaranteed? Sadly not. But it would be it'll be important for us to do our part to prevent the I'm just gonna dub this the Second Civil War. It's not gonna be based on slaves, it's definitely gonna be based on ideology, radical ideologies from both sides of the aisle. And I don't want that. I don't want that. And idiots who think about I should have called this guy out on his show, that just think breaking out of the country, doing succession is gonna work. You know what I found out? That's actually illegal. So go ahead. Yes, you're right, it's illegal. So, no, but you know what? Well what people are doing that, which is creative, and I gotta give credit when it's due. I don't mind civil disobedience to government. They are forming alliances by region. And these health alliances, this is a way of outsmarting and dancing around. Let's be honest, uh, the health administration, it's it's wacky. Let's just say that. It's wacky. Um I could say a lot of things, but it's wacky. They're creating these health, these health alliances based on region, and they're doing collaborative work together. So they're just going to the federal government. And I'm for it. This is the kind of succession, the soft secession is called. They're dancing around the federal government. I like it. It's creative, it's civil disobedience, and if it's gonna ruffle some feathers, yeah, but you know what? Yeah, they're gonna ruffle some feathers. But I'm all for it. Okay, and I like that this is happening because you can't be too dependent on the federal government. I've said this before. This is someone who's an independent centrist. After a while, it's gonna get so chaotic. Be this overdependency of the federal government, it's such a major flaw. And I I like I like these um alliances, and I think we need more of them. Either financial alliances or cultural alliances, whatever. Whatever commonality you have, and well, actually, better things just have more of a common antagonist or enemy. That's what keeps the the alliance together more than even common interests. And sometimes you can debate um the how more than the the common interest itself, okay, or or opposing interests. You know, debate how they could get that achieved. So that's uh that's why I say I think even having a common enemy keeps a union unity together even more than having a common interest. Because you can say, Oh, we want peace on the streets. How can you go about that? Oh, one could say, arm the cops with more guns. Somebody say, No, no, no, no, no. Arm the regular people with guns. Oh, the other side, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That creates division, even though they got a common goal. That's why I say a common enemy or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. No, it's together. I like that. That's a fact. That's that you know, and I forget who said this. I gotta I gotta pull up that core. I gotta figure, I gotta quote the author more properly. I've been taking this like it's it's not original, I'm saying. It's not original. I gotta find out the the author of that. If someone in chat could just put that, be helpful, instead of being dicks, then that would be nice. Yes. Listen, uh a few of them are, but a lot of my people are good people. They they they know, you know, I'm not referring that to you. Those of you who commented, yeah, I'm not the nicest person in the world, and I don't pretend to be, but I will fight for the greater good. That's my intent. I don't I don't care about your feelings as much. I will care about your life, but not your feelings as much. I'm a little rough around the edges. That's a New York me. Alright? Um, and not all New Yorkers are urban. Well, even though I'm kind of the stereotype, I'm very urban and all of that. Even though I don't mind, I don't mind some of the Southern culture. I traveled to Southern States. I actually enjoyed it more than I thought. I was a is this the roots I'm touching? I don't know. We'll see. I gotta discover more of my roots, but I won't be surprised. It's southern, and maybe it's a little Caribbean to me. I gotta look that up. It's TBD to be decided. I gotta do a DNA test to see how I'm broken up on that. I don't I'm sure I got Latin Caribbean somewhere, and that gets on the southern thing. I know I tend to love the hot climates of the cold ones, so I was born in the wrong state. New York is not the hottest state in the world in terms of temperature, okay? Just be honest. It's bipolar. I'll say that, but hottest. It's bipolar. It's really bipolar. Yeah, so you get hot and it goes low. Yeah, it's that's four seasons. Yeah, more ways than one, right? Yeah, or or I might have to divide it to probably 12 seasons. I don't know. That that's a that's a that's a that's a first world issue. That's a climate change kind of issue. Right. You know, I I could I could I could ramble on, but you know, you provide so much, so let me just be serious though. You provide so much great insight. Unlikely, you know, you know, I will say unconventional, but I don't mind. I'm unconventional myself. I gotta make things interesting. Can I be always, oh, peace, oh talk. It gets boring. Come on, you you like why I spice things up, you like why I do do a little weird turn thing. Check out that movement, and let me do a shameless plug-in for him. And get those legacy letters, people. Oh, that's thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah. Get those letters. Tell a little bit about those legacy letters.

SPEAKER_00: 59:25

Yeah, and a little bit more about that. And as I was saying, that you know, this this father had written these letters, again, fictional letters to these children he never lived to see. He was, and these letters are older. He wrote them a long time ago. So when the children turned 10, he gave them, not he gave them, but these he actually was up in a cabin, died up there. Letters were brought back and given to the children on their 10th birthday. So there's a bit of backstory to it. And and so they grew up with these letters their entire lives, and they decided to give, guess what? They decided to give 50 of the over 200 letters. Letters that the father had written. And it's in a it's a book like a Tuesdays with Moray type of book. The legacy letter's complete is all done, it's ready to come out next. That's the shameless plug on my end. And so that's coming out. But within this book, what type of letters are there? There's letters on how to, how to uh how to change the oil in a card, and then then it goes to how to make a marriage great, and then it talks about you know how to be a good man or how to how to love. And you know, there's it's just the full gamut. He was trying to write the entirety of his life in the last seven months. And I think he does it based upon how well this book's done. And I think it's it's it's a powerful book. Again, The Legacy Letters. Check out thelegacyletters.com, go to Amazon. I hate getting I don't hate Amazon. If you go to your local bookstore, anything local, great. But Amazon's the big beast, and that's a great place to get it. Check it out there. And the other place, where are we? Yellowfeathers.org. Yeah, bring it on, guys. It's it's we'd love to see you more about that. And and uh just yellow feather, I was on it, uh hashtag featherfriday. It's on Instagram. And lastly, national thank you letterday.com. Why November 14th? Find out more about it. It's a blast. You get to see these giant letters and stamps that we got Guinness Records for and this uh local school. It was a black it was on Kelly Clarkson even. How about that? Yippity Skippy, it was all good. So that's the fun of that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:24

Listen, he's not just some random drunken guy for somebody who is cynical, okay? He's a big deal, right? I'm just gonna say that right now because someone's like, ah, listen. Listen, he's been amazing. I don't judge people by looks and general. I I judge people mostly by character and what they bring to the table. That's my judgment is. This is why look, I for me, my little shameless I'm not gonna be a hypocrite for two seconds. Dennity goal is to bring more, you know, people of color. I mean, the woman part, the woman outreach has been a lot more successful. I want more, you know, blacks and Latinos and Asians. I want more of those to come into the show, and I don't care, you know, what you are politically. I don't, that's that that doesn't concern me. What will concern me if you're brainwashed nitwit that wants to cause my violence. You don't need to be on either side of the aisle. You can be you can be an anarchist and just hate both parties you want to cause violence. That's enough for me. If you're like a neo-Nazi or you're super communist, yeah, then that that that then I don't care for you. I I really don't give. This is why this is not for everybody, and I don't want this to be for everybody. I want to be people who want to and I'm gonna avoid those words. We want to make America truly awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:43

Awesome. Yep. I love that. Thank you. You're the man. This is some been this has been such a great, you know, love being on the show. Hopefully come back someday and maybe we'll get into some more good stuff. But uh yeah, what a what a pleasure.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:56

Thank you, though. You bring energy and wisdom, even on likely stor on you know, I'll say unconventional stories, but hey, they they have they have a purpose. And for those of you who've been listening, watching, you know what they are. I'm not gonna repeat them. So I will actually like that. Actually, gutsy question. Anything you want to add before I really wrap this up?

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:15

No, just an absolute pleasure being on the show with you guys, with with you and and all your and all the great New Yorkers there, and everyone who's listening to the show. Thanks again. Again, guys, yellowfeathers.org, national thank youletter day.com, the legacy letters, sameless plug hour, but thanks again for having me on you on your show. What a pleasure.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:34

Oh, no, just thank you for being here. You know, I can't do this all by myself. I mean, it'll be a monologue. And I have my own monologues, just not in this one, which has been good because I, you know, it's some people you some of you can't stand my monologue, some of you love it. Whatever. I'm still gonna still do the monologues. It's been reduced because I've been having so much you could guess. There you go. So we all happy, right? All right, so be it. But now for my shameless plugin, we are pro-shameless plugin, um, bro capitalist. Like, comment, subscribe, share this with someone who could benefit from it. And then for the reviews for Apple Podcasts, I don't care about Spotify. You do a review there, I'm not gonna read it, read it. Give a honest review. I'm not I'm not chasing after five stars. If you give me five stars, great. Just say why was it awesome if I'm getting five stars? If I if I'm getting a four-star, what can I improve on? Those are the kind of reviews I take very seriously. Not I am great, not the episode's great in the end, or this episode's bad. I don't care for that that much. I really don't. And another thing, and you know, if you're feeling generous, donate to this podcast as well. That's all I'm gonna say. And for those of you who are not on PodMatch, get on PodMatch. It's such a great, great tool. You know, it keeps everything organized and communications and in the one-pagers instead of just going to those email chains and all that, it gets so annoying. Join Podmatch. It's such a you could change it in your one-page last minute, and all you do is refresh, and then we get all that instead of just, I don't know, just redoing the PDF PDF and all that. Just skip PodMatch. It's even more convenient, okay? So with that, once you complete this third journey, you have a blessed day, afternoon, or night.