317- Who Owns Ideas When Machines Create Them with Jordan Miller

We turn a rough founder setback into a bigger lesson on resilience, then map where AI is actually headed: agent coders, wild generative video, IP fights, outages that prove why decentralization matters, and a bumpy creative economy that needs smarter transitions.

• converting anger into productive energy
• founder vision, community drift, and the why
• generative video hype, satire, and line-crossing
• copyright, fair use, and overreach risks
• AI coding agents, tool orchestration, and autonomy
• law enforcement AI, bias, and implementation
• AWS outage as a decentralization case study
• existential AI fears versus real-world failure modes
• AI actors, job displacement, and transition policy
• practical creator strategies and human-in-the-loop
• speech, platforms, and honest feedback culture

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome Back And Setup
• 2:45 Founder Turmoil And Resilience
• 10:40 Anger As Productive Energy
• 18:30 Ethics, Growth, And Perspective
• 24:00 2024–2025 AI Snapshot
• 27:30 Generative Video Goes Wild
• 35:20 IP, Remixes, And Fair Use
• 45:00 AI In Law Enforcement And Bias
• 52:20 Can AI Code Alone
• 1:01:00 Agentic Coders Talking To Coders
• 1:07:30 Comment Culture And Online Speech

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:14

Welcome everyone to politically high tech with your host, Elias. Um, if you want to call this episode a blast from the past, so to speak, yeah, I'm consistent guests. I asked him to come back because it was a very good conversation. And if this was my personal podcast Olympics, he will he would get the silver medal. Oh, nice. Yeah. Silver medal. But who knows? Can he take the gold medal? Because so far, the current gold medal, he says he's not interested right now, maybe next year. So it's a chance maybe Jordan could become the tech guest gold medalist. The default next. Yeah. So am I plotting? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, feel free to express in the comment section. Am I plotting something? Yeah, I like the little conspiracy theory we go with. It's a little entertaining, especially if it recludes me. I know, especially if I know it's not true, but I I'll entertain it. Yes, I'm plotting something. Yeah, I'm gonna. Oh, but no, all seriousness, yeah. He just could he just couldn't make it. I was like, you know, I I get that. But hey, we got Jordan here. He was another great guest. And thank you, listeners, for making him that great. And you know, he's the founder of Satori Met AI and the very predictive AI models where they communicate with each other. And I'm not gonna be this repetitive because if you want to get into the technical stuff, what's it really about? Listen to the last episode. I'll be episode 227, and I'll put that on the link in the description. And you and for YouTube exclusive only, it'll be one of the cards in the beginning. Most likely at the top right corner. Those little information cards, it'll pop up somewhere in the beginning. Maybe about now. But well, if you missed it, don't worry, it's gonna be in the link in the description. So you got your ways of getting in that episode because this is one thing I'm not gonna do. I am not going to rehash that conversation, and neither should Jordan. Okay, we're not gonna do that. Um, we humans, we don't like repetitive crap. This is what AI is good for. AI should be taking these born repetitive tasks and conquer that. I could care less about that point. That's gonna free free us to do more creative things, right? I mean, that's the positive side of AI. Well, we ain't on the negative side. AI is gonna take out jobs and kill us all. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm sure you heard it a thousand times. Before I get into it, uh, Jordan, introduce yourself. What do you want the listeners and viewers to know about you, especially those who are just tuning in?

SPEAKER_01: 2:50

For sure. Yeah, and thanks for having me back, because that conversation was so fun. The first one we had. I really enjoyed it. So last time we talked about Satori a lot. So I I was I was founding a project called Satori open source, not-for-profit, non-profit. And so I get I I was the founder of that, and and I've kind of let that community move on a little bit. There's other people that wanted to take control. So I'm waiting, waiting for that to kind of end. So anyway, that's kind of where I'm at. And in the meantime, I'm building kind of some of the original vision on my own, on my and kind of in the shadows. So I'm building up just a code base that would that would kind of accomplish those things.

SPEAKER_00: 3:42

I want to talk to you, slimy people. Uh say it's right now, how dare you ruin something? Well, you ruin something temporarily. Let's just say that. You just put a setback. Let's just let me just be more precise. You know, you could disrupt, you could try to take over all you want, but that doesn't last. Remember those coup rebellions? You know, history people, basic history, a lot of these coups don't last forever. Because they fight among each other, they're all demons, then the thieves, at least in their heart and spirit. Yeah, I'm getting a little spiritual and historical here. And someone start fighting each other because they all want that control. Well, do they have the brains to replicate, or even better yet, evolve that vision? 99 out of 100 times. That's a hell no. Simple answer. Okay, so when you get rid of someone, not get rid of, but once you have someone who's no longer, you know, the original founder, visionary of it, things take an interesting turn, and nine out of ten times not for the better. Because you forget your why, you toss you either you toss out the window, or a little more naive reason, you forget your why. Right? And that and sadly that that's that's a shame because I was actually looking forward to that email moment involved. I was like, but you know, it's a setback, it's not a failure. Let's just be clear about that. It's just a setback, and setbacks will happen. What can you do about it? This is a little development plug it in there. You can either cry about it, let it be permanently ruined, or you could bounce back. That's right.

SPEAKER_01: 5:28

That's right.

SPEAKER_00: 5:30

These are two options.

SPEAKER_01: 5:31

Go ahead. Yeah, to to build something. Yes. You gotta use the energy you're given. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 5:37

Yep, because a lot of people would do in this situation, they'll cry, feel sorry for themselves. Why me? Well, to be honest, you and I are not that special on that. I'm talking to you, the viewers, it's gonna happen to us at some point because some people think you have good intentions, and sometimes not our fault, because we want to do what's best. Then you know they have a smiley that goes angelic, and by the time when that right time comes, they have filthy intentions we expose. And some of us are surprised, and some people now not as surprised. Me, I tend not to be surprised because I have a more cynical view of humanity sometimes. I and my intuition said this one was not good, but how I'm gonna explain that to somebody if you don't have the documents or the proof. Me personally, sometimes I keep it shut until I can build the case that this person is no good. So that's a sad part. You gotta have some proof to say, Oh, this person's bad. Intuitively, you know you behave the curve, but if you act on those instincts too quickly, you look crazy. So that's a conundrum. That's a conundrum right there, right? It is such a long-term game, and I'm not the most patient person in the world, so it's even infuriating to me personally. So comment section activity. I normally would encourage you to be a little nasty with me, but this one I don't I don't think so. Just look, finding something, even running a business, even if it fails, I give them credit because it's not an easy thing to do, and very few people are willing to do that. Lopy route just be a little worker, be miserable, get a paycheck. Unless you're happy with that, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. But there's a lot of people that's miserable doing that, and they don't even dare to find something or create a business. It's all right. So I'm new, yeah. And I have, you know, aired ever since starting this podcast, I have so much more respect for business people. And because sometimes you say, oh, these business people are kind of a-holes and this and that, but now I get it. I get it because it's like you know, you put it vaguely and generally, but there are just some people that if you act sadly too kind, you see, kindness is a weakness, some of them they're gonna act up, and that's just that's just so freaking um on unfortunate. But like I said again, it's not a failure, because a failure would have been Jordy giving up crying, and this episode will never happen. Uh so that's you know, this is an indicator right here. Look, look, even though he went through a tough situation, he's mostly you know, he's he's still upbeat about it. So that's resilience right there. And me, probably I would have been more of an angry person, and then I would have got back at that person and did more authoritarian things. Okay, this person's gone, we're gonna change some things around here. That's just me, but everybody do do things differently. And me says, I'm not part of that community. Um I don't know if I was gonna be part of that community, to be honest. Unless I don't know, I I tend to pick up things very quickly. I did take an IQ test, I'm gonna brag a little bit, I ended up scoring 170. So maybe I could pick that up. Of course. So I could I've read coding without having the background. I've read what it meant, and I was able to fix some stuff that requires a tech background. Not to bash them, but some tech background people, I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna be bashing some tech people. Some of y'all are not the brightest people, and I'm gonna say why, because you just stick to A, B, C, systemic analysis, while it could be outside of the system. Sometimes it's good to insert some creativity into it. And I gotta shout out to this girl, very smart girl in IT, Sequoia Blue. I gotta shout out to her that she is creative and an IT person. I'll say, hi, the Beyonce here means you need more of that. Some of them sound like uh I don't understand the computer. I took it to a rob robot or human being. Make up your mind, make it make sense. Come on, you know, it's I criticize a lot of them, and I even and I'm gonna swear, don't blame the guests here, blame me, I don't care. Half of them sound like bitches, to be honest, when they complain. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna respect you in Riverside's customer service. Even though I use Riverside, I had to solve the problems myself. This is someone who doesn't have a strong tech background, but I'm willing to figure it out. The customer service sucks. I had to figure out my own what's wrong with it. Okay, and thanks to this podcast, it's taught me to be more tech savvy. Like I said, I'm a well-informed consumer. That's how that's how I label myself. Nice because I'm willing to learn a darn thing and get it done. All right, enough patting myself in the back. Because if I didn't have this persistent anger to get it done, like turns anger to something, I don't know. Maybe I would have been crying in the bed. What does life suck?

SPEAKER_01: 10:38

You gotta use that anger, you know, because people will do things that make you angry. And and it's a power, you know, like they've given you a force. And and I remember reading this book when I was like 20. It was it was it was it changed my life because it gave me a different perspective, literally, on anger that I had never had before. And the pers you know, because I grew up kind of in a religious household, anger was like to be shunned, it was like a bad thing, you know, never be angry. And so, I mean, that's just repressed anger, right? And so I read this book called The Angry Book, that just talked about anger all the time. And it went through, it gave me a healthier perspective on anger and how to use it for energy and how to it's okay to be angry, to give yourself permission. And then once you have that permission, then you can use it and you can create whatever you want. You know, I mean, you don't have to just go be in a rage all the time, you know. I mean, you can convert it. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 11:42

You know, that's exactly right. And I eventually had to learn that around the same around in my 20s, I'll say mid-20s, a little later, because there's times anger used to sh uh people thought I was the nicest person, so people thought I was the most demonic person. Because once I get angry, it pops up and it comes out of nowhere, no warning shots. And I said, I said, no, anger must have a purpose. I mean, I'm sure it does. I don't care what society has to say. I mean, I always kind of challenge society. That's always been my thing. I always like to be somewhat of a contrarian. I said, no, and if if anger shouldn't exist, why we have it in the first place? Why does it exist? Um, that's like trying to, I don't know, if you want to be smart, it's like ripping your prefrontal cortex. Is that gonna make you smarter? No, I'm pretty sure it's gonna do the opposite. Okay, that's your thinking, your feelings, all of all that connected in there. Your planning, strategizing, that's there. That's sort of the bosses of all the other regions of the brains, too. All right. So, you know, and listen, people just say some of the dumbest things and we accept them and make them normally. That's what infuriates me. Because if anger wasn't allowed, that's why we have it. And and let me use even a biblical example. Jesus was angry sometimes. That's right. Should you shun him for that? You want to shun him? You want to? I don't care what you atheists think, you're in your own little weird world. But you want to religious people, I'm talking to you. You want to shun that? You wanna do that? Huh? Huh? Look, I wish I could just told the holy water through the screen and freaking burn the demons out of you right now. But I can't do that. You're just dealing with a digitized version of me. So be lucky that I got that much grace just to talk to you through a digital screen. All right. Alright, let me stop bashing the religious folk, even though some deserve it. I I'm I I'm not gonna apologize, I'm not gonna change your mind. I this is how I truly gently feel, and this is what I think for a long, long time. Okay, so before we get to the while, this starts to an unexpected development episode, that's fine. Going off the rails as part of this podcast sometimes. Don't worry, we're gonna talk some AI stuff. Don't worry, but I just think we need to bring these things out because not everything is digitized. We still need humans, you know, and humans are gonna do some slimy things, you know, until AI is fully automated that it could do so much stuff. Maybe we need less humans. I mean, uh, what what's one tool? I'm not sure it's AI included. I'm I won't be surprised. Japan has figured out solutions how to, you know, make lazy people bathe only 15 minutes. You go on their little shower thing, it washes you off. It does everything for you. Japanese are generally clean people and scientifically smart people. But you know, they I won't be surprised there's very few that I was thinking they didn't want to um shower, so they probably come up with a little solution. And I like it. I wonder when America's gonna come up with that. Maybe after they have a monopoly and political control, I'm gonna be cynical about that because America used to be pretty innovative. America needs to be innovative again. I'm just gonna uh end it there. Anything else you want to add before I change the subject?

SPEAKER_01: 15:01

You know, I would say if you go through a hard time, you know, you've you've gone through a struggle, something that's you know, I I always remember back to this experience that I had as a kid. So my mom likes to hike, so she hikes mountains and whatever. I I kind of like it too, but I got I decided to give it a try. So when I was like 10 years old, I like hiked a mountain, you know, like all the way. And and it was, you know, grueling and difficult. And I remember being like halfway up, and I hadn't turned around to look at like the scenery, the the entire hike. And I'm halfway up and I'm kind of complaining about how difficult it is. And my mom's like, you know, why don't you turn around? Why don't you just take a look? And I did, and I was like shocked that we were like in the stratosphere. I was like, oh my god. So and and so when you find yourself in situations, you know, like you've been in a grind and it's been difficult or you know, something, I always try to like look back on the progress that's been made and be like, okay, well, that changed me in these ways. I'm different now. So I I think that's always helpful too.

SPEAKER_00: 16:20

Of course, because we are at the humans, we're so negatively averse, let negative stuff affect us a lot quicker and more profoundly than the positive stuff. So remember that people, I'm actually wearing my mature hat now. Listen to that, people. That's really good advice. Because we tend to forget once we deal with this roadblocks, uh it's angry and upset. But if you look back on the progress you made, you'll be shocked. That's a good analogy, believe it or not. That hiking analogy is very fitting here because you can even think about that with your progress, you know, losing fat. I don't say weight, fat. Because you know what you don't want me, me, I'm pretty chunky, so I gotta start working on that at some point. Also, you know, progress in your career. Look back. Used to be just this cashier. Now you an advisor to the CEO. That's a big that's a big career ladder that you climbed on there. That's not to uh be upset or even belittle about, you know. That's yeah, look back at that and pre- you know, that's just not just looking back at the progress and also gratitude. I know it's easier said than done. I'm uh you know, work in progress on that. This is why at least my anger is more short term than having long term, and this is why I'm not looking, I'm not looking very old yet, even though I am my mid-30s, you know. So, and well, except for maybe the glasses part, yeah. Yeah, four eyes, whatever. I well, I I always like the glasses. I thought glasses were cool, so there you go. Mission accomplished on that front. But all of seriousness, uh, did this is really good advice here, people. I you know, if you want to be a Reddit troll and disagree, fine. Just know that you're hurting yourself. Not me, not Jordan. You're hurting yourself. You know, it's just like you're drinking the poison, you're expecting me or Jordan to die. That's how nonsensical that is. Yourself is drinking the poison, but expect me and him to die. No, no, no, no, it don't work like that. Well, he's drinking something more pleasant than poison, I'll say that much. It's not that he would have dropped already and and then we had a failed episode. And I probably will, and I most definitely when I upload, I was like, damn, what happened? But uh, you know, but all the services, this this is just this is good advice. And look, I don't mind, you know, this this podcast is about development as well, so it actually ties in. Um that that'll be no that's a third type episode. You know, we're gonna talk, don't worry, we're gonna talk about plenty of AI, but but you still need to go through the human experience, ironically, because humans are not gonna go away, at least not anytime soon. You know, despite you hear the the warnings of World War III, AI take over, all that other stuff. I'm sure we're gonna figure most of that out, and we're gonna have new problems and new progress along the way. This is this is human evolution going all over again. And just look, just think about the historical perspective. We used to be just nomads, farmers, cave people. Look where we at now. We we're using advanced technology. I'll say for the most part, we're smarter. Ethics. I'm a bit mixed on that, but hey, that's a good debate. Has human got more ethical? Um there's some cases they have, and in some cases they haven't. I don't know, that would be a very good debate. Uh, has human ethics gotten better? Uh well, uh me, I'm bit I'm been mixed. I can say yes or no. I'm I'm more of a nasty. I I don't I I don't like being in that camp. But after doing deep digging, I think I'm I'm I'm definitely yes or no, Cam. I'm at the I'm at the center uh again. When you think deep, you'd be more centered than you think, um, especially in politics. Let's just use abortion. I used to think I was to the right after I heard about feasibility of the pregnancy and all, you know, and all of that. I was like, uh, yeah. I mean, that's a that's a uniquely woman experience. And I think, you know, I decided to think families should talk about it. If the man's of all, you know, if the man is still present, of course. No that so I lean more to the center there. Before I used to start to the right, I said, oh no, no baby should be no baby should be aborted at all, you know, final, find a way to make it work. I leaned to I lean to the center on that. Um what what's the other thing I need more to write on? Oh, fiscal responsibility. Yeah, I'm definitely more to I'm definitely more republic. I agree. I agree the Republicans that used to be fiscally responsible. They haven't been fiscally responsible, especially in the federal level. But I ain't gonna be too political. The big beautiful bill, the the deads went up,$38 trillion. Who's surprised? Not me. Nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody wants to do spending cuts, real spending cuts. Neither party. So hey. That's all I'm gonna say about that. Um all right, let's get into the state of AI from 2024 and 2025. I'm sure there are some differences. I mean, me, I I want to start off with video creation. I mean, video creation of AI has exploded, and I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna add some historic and politics into it because some dead historical figures have been revived to do nonsensical things. And one example, one example from Sora, they use freaking Mr. Rogers and Bob Ross. They put them in a WWE match. What's your opinion on that?

SPEAKER_01: 22:03

The video creation, it's just gonna get wild. I mean, I kind of see this AI as externalizing our intelligence, but with that, it also externalizes our imagination, you know. And so anything somebody can think is now available for anybody else to think it too, because they can see it. So it's just gonna get wild. Yeah. Uh I don't mind it. I mean, it's kind of it's fine, I guess. I mean, to the extent it kind of comes back to the idea of like, you know, we talked about religious stuff a little bit ago. So we've always had this problem where we're like, well, are certain people or certain concepts or certain characters sacred, you know? I mean, and in some groups they are, and in other groups they don't care, you know? And so but we all kind of most of us seem to agree that we humans live on a different level and that we should be tolerant of other ideas. And so if they want to do that, that's fine. It's not something I'm gonna go seek out and watch and be interested in, but it's just somebody's idea. That's all.

SPEAKER_00: 23:09

Yeah, to be extra historical here. They have one that they altered. Marthu Sukge said, I have a dream, and he ran, and instead of having an inspiring speech, he just I have a dream that we're all gonna die, and then he just ran away. I said, Oh my I said, I won't be surprised if regulators and they already in talks of restricting it because of crazy stuff like this. Yeah, I mean, I didn't mind about cats and dogs committing crime, it's ridiculous, it's over the top, it's funny. I have nothing to say about that. I'm team cat, by the way, very biased here. But you know, it was cute when a cat was doing a little drive-by. You know, I was okay, it's ridiculous, it's over the top. I was I chuckled a bit. Would I would I really support a cat doing that? Um, no, I think that's when I changed my mind and start jumping out the cat camp. Um, if they could could come. I mean, they're already vicious enough, they could scratch your eyes out. They don't need to be carrying guns or anything like that. I'm sure they would have shot down some human beings already, the way the way some of their tendencies were. Let's just let me just be honest. This is coming from a cat lover here. Especially they don't like you because they pick you. You don't pick them as a cat. The dog is the opposite. Dog go fights for your approval. Cat is cat is the opposite. No, no, no, no, no. You need to fight for my approval, okay? That's that's not alright. That's just let's just be absolutely clear about that. What else on on AI and another one that's gonna definitely bring debate of copyright laws? Anime. They recreate some Dragon Ball Z scenes and use uh, I don't go a bit wacky here, One Punch Man versus Songoku, and someone now the Japanese government is waiting and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is copyright infringement, using our IP just uh for your entertainment. Is this a problem that we're gonna have to tackle like copyright IP infringement or violations?

SPEAKER_01: 25:11

I hope it goes more of a decentralized route because you it's so much, right? I mean, I can make content all day, and is everybody gonna sue me? You know, I mean, you can't overrun the core system with you know IP infringement. So so it feels to me more like eventually it has to go to this realm where it's like, well, who who created it? You know, that's just as important as what it was, who created it, and then you know, if if you can identify who they were cryptographically, saying, no, we know this identity, it was signed, we know who created this. If you can do that, then you know, some people will respect it, some people won't. You know, IP is something I I don't love. I I came from kind of an Austrian economics background, you know, very kind of pseudo-anarchist, kind of out there saying, you know, we don't need all this control, it's not a big deal. And and one of the people that I learned about in my early 20s again was Ayn Rand and all of her ideas about, you know, her basic premise was well, you can just decentralize everything if you had enough technology or you had enough political, you know, will or whatever. And and she had arguments for like you could literally do this with the police, you could do it with, you know, whatever army you might need and whatever. And so she had this very open, right, kind of idea of society. And yet, as soon as other people started repeating what she had said, and she kind of got a following, and you know, she was she started like getting mad that people were saying those things. And she's like, No, those are my ideas, you know, they belong to me. And I'm like, well, do ideas belong to people? You know, I mean, it's kind of like the cat thing. Maybe they choose you, you know, you don't know. So kind of his IP feels like an area where you should just kind of give up control a little bit, you know, because you're not going to be able to control it. And and if you want to control it, like the tire, you know, the the F1 or or you know, the racing tire company or whatever, they guard their tires very carefully, you know. And back in the day, glassmakers guarded their secret very carefully. And so new technology is always guarded, and that's the stuff that you know people want to keep. It's it's kind of feels like if you can't if you can't keep it secret, it's not secret. You know, it it belongs to everybody. So you're just gonna have to deal. That's kind of my attitude on IP.

SPEAKER_00: 27:53

Well, so for the authoritarians, you've been nicely vaguely called out, including Ayn Rand. Yeah. The originator, ironically, ironically. So I mean. Look, I I think to me, I will just say as long as it's no monetary use, I'm okay with it. That's that's that's that to me, that's just my little nuance. As long as not if it's just for fun, people just you know consuming it with no monetary benefit. Why the hell not? If anything, it might even make these IPs even more popular, ironically. People might want to look up, oh, what's this Goku? What's this one punch man or whatever, right? And look, don't be paranoid, don't be paranoid, because don't don't become like Nintendo. Nintendo sues for every little thing. And I don't want to get into that. I can give you a lot of arcans where Nintendo have sued, and I and most of the time they win because of because of this. So as long as it's not it's and and let me just be honest, I've seen some AI creators use Mario. Yeah, Mario, this is like really you're really daring here because Nintendo, I will say it's very, if I'm gonna be nice, look very authoritarian with the IP. They are just very authoritarian. If they if you use Mario of any way, even just a symbol, and if they get a whiff of it, they're gonna send a cease to desist. And then if you're gonna fight back a little bit, hold in here. Good luck in court. I hope we got Donald Trump's wallet or better. Because you're gonna be in for a long long fight. Okay, and and you're at a disadvantage already. I'm just being honest. I wish it wasn't that way. I I agree with uh good chunk what Jordan says. So to me, as long as they're not making uh to me like a big profit over it, then I'm not gonna call it robbery. It's just if they spend their own money to do that, that that's their choice. Little charity event. Here, here's a fight. That we never had, and I could use AI just to generate that. And look, I'm in for it. A lot of it are laughable. And there's a lot of fast shaming with AI, but I tend to laugh because it's super over-the-top ridiculous. Fast shaming is like a freaking thousand-pound obese woman doing cartwheel flips and then she breaks the ground during an Olympic event. I mean, it's hilarious. But I I it is fat shamey, let's be real, but it's still hilarious. It's still hilarious to me. It's just it's hilarious. But this is what you could do with AI. Um you could create over-the-top ridiculousness, and that's my humor. If I see something that's so ridiculous, I'm gonna laugh. Yeah. I'm gonna laugh. And and let's be honest, and we talked about human bias before. This is human bias is being transported. And for better or worse, some is entertaining, some could be offensive. I've seen some offensive ones, you know, stereotypes of Latinas, black people, or even white people. Let's just throw in there because I'm not I'm not one of those that's look, I agree there's some racism in America, but I am not the type that's gonna demonize every single white person. I think that's utterly ridiculous. There's only those in power. I would like to attack that includes politicians and higher level, even some celebrities. I'll criticize those. But just demonizing every single white person is just as racist, to be honest. And I think we need to treat the problem more holistically. If you want to call me a white savior, you're stupid, but that's you're you're entitled to be stupid, but you're not entitled to the truth. That's all I'm gonna say about that. Um yeah, this is uh This is the state of um AI, the silliness. Is there any let me ask a more serious question now? Is there any more AI trends that we should be paying attention to? Well in general.

SPEAKER_01: 31:51

The AI trend that I'm paying very close attention to is AI programming. You know, because I'm a creator and and my my uh medium is code. It's it's logic and it's code and it's computers and how they talk to each other and what they do. And so I pay very close attention to that very closely, and it's moving fast. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know if that's if that's of any interest to your listeners or you.

SPEAKER_00: 32:18

No, well, it's whatever is where we should be paying attention to. I think we should be paying attention to Albans build and all that, so we can have an idea. Sure, we could get more um creators of that. We could definitely use more producers. We don't have enough of that. We have a lot of content consumers, right? It's like a ratio of one to a hundred.

SPEAKER_01: 32:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 32:39

Producers versus consumers. So we could definitely use more creation. I mean, why not? Why not? I mean, shoot me. I use a video AI, and I've created some episodes. One of my most popular ones was about law enforcement AI. Oh, I got some big comments. Some were some were supportive of it, and some were just saying, you're just exacerbating more racism. Hey, that could be true. We gotta see how it's implemented. So, like I said, there's racing implementations there. There's the robot dogs. All that we I think they're weird as heck. They creep me out a little bit. Unless they know how to make them like a real dog, they need to work on that, by the way. Just give you some feedback on NYPD and other police out there. Because this robotic, skelly-looking dog, it's freaky. The legs are funny, it moves. I mean, it's good for hot, it's good for Halloween. Let's just be honest. It moves, it it kind of creeped me out a bit. And there's moving camera robots on them in the city as well. So, you know, and look, AI doesn't generate all that stuff. You need the mechanical parts as well, you know. It's not all, oh, oh, let me just say AI, it does everything. No, you need the mechanical, you need to build a robot for it, and then you incorporate AI. This is just I I know I can't just sh- I just can't shout AI and okay, everything is magically working. It doesn't work like that, people. It doesn't work like that. Yeah, but it does generate the brains and the actions and algorithms to see what what they want and how they detect the criminal or or someone doing something suspicious. I'm sure they're gonna give some certain data sets, of course, laced with human bias. Yes, I use that term correctly. I use it intentionally, lace with human bias. And if we address it now, I'm sure it's gonna be transported to these technologies. And we'll see. And maybe in the moment, maybe the minorities will have a good reason to complain. We'll see. To me, I'll say it's too early to tell. Too early to tell. Sadly, we gotta let some things happen, and then it'll be valid. Then there will see validity to the complaints, or or it could be debunked. Let me just be fair-minded here. You know, and I just think, yeah, that one I got a lot of reaction for that on episode. I'll put that link into the episode as well. It's pretty short, it's like a 20-minute, and I was all AI created. It just has my voice. I and that got a decent amount of traction. I'm shocked because I didn't expect that to be the most popular one. I thought it would be about exposing Tim Pool. Well, not expose it, but seeing there's a Russian connection with that, it turned out to be false. But I thought that was gonna get more traction. No, it didn't. It was law enforcement and AI that got the most attention. I wonder why, and that was last year. That was last year when I uploaded that. Yeah, it was last year. Yep, it's it's there, and I and I command it. I said, give legitimate pros and cons of implementing AI to law enforcement. And it did. And I reviewed the whole video before uploading it. There's few edits I had to make. Because when you use AI people, I'm gonna say this you don't let AI run you. You run AI. The only thing the most the most malleable thing you can do is learn how it works. And then you can implement your vision. But don't let AI run you. Don't let it. And sometimes it's gonna take a couple of trials and errors. It's okay, it's part of learning. I mean, you think I got it right the first time? No, I had to go through my fifth try to get it right because it was things sounding funny. It was some some of the videos and images they gave were just didn't make sense. And and then some were too repetitive. I didn't make those coding corrections. And no, no, you could, you know, to some extent it's true. You don't need a coding background to learn this AI stuff. But I think, but if you know coding, it's even better. Let's be honest. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not it's not a necessity, but it is a skill that can enrich your experience for sure. Let me just put it like that. Anything else you want to add um about yeah, this is me gates of programming and of course a consumer perspective. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 36:56

Yeah, I I uh so I've been working with these programs that that code, these AIs that are really good at coding. And I've been working with them and I I've really tried to see what the limits are and how far I can go, and where does it fall down? You know, one of my first tests was could I create something in a language that I don't know using tools that I don't know, and does it actually work? And something that's a little bit more than just kind of a static website or something simple like that. And the answer was yes. You know, I had to go through a few iterations, like you said, but I was able to code something that I had no idea, what language, how this works. And so, and then I I tried other experiments where I tried saying, could I make a hierarchical structure of documentation and language that it could use to literally build the entire thing on its own? Like literally, you know, I'm not in the loop. I'm not telling it what to do every every second. And I've had mixed experience with that, but but with all these experimentations, you know, I can I feel like I can see where it's going. I can see. And so what people will usually do is they'll say, okay, well, you know, you really have to be in the loop because that's my experience, and you know, it it falls down, otherwise, and it makes mistakes, it does stupid things. That's so true. That's so true. But in five years, it will be able to code all by itself. All by itself. You know, it doesn't mean it will be able to code amazingly well, it probably will, but I know that it will be able to do what I can do all by itself. So that's where we're headed. And I see kind of a tr I see a trend to this where you have AI coders that are managing code bases, you know, and they're they're basically always on, they're always improving it, they're always checking in with what are the latest packages, how does this thing work. They have the time and the attention to just always do that, you know, and they're gonna have some kind of network that they can talk on, whether it's just MCP servers or something, but we're gonna have AI coders talking to each other all the time about how to make their separate but related projects, you know, so they'll have they'll have an interface or a server that you can talk to as a human, where you're like, okay, I'm using your product, but it's doing this glitch here in Riverside or whatever it is. And the AI coder will be like, oh, I haven't run into that. Let me see if I can spin up an environment and build the thing and recreate your glitch, and then I'll fix it all by myself, and then I'll push an update to the to the actual product. And so, you know, because computers can speak language now, that's what we're gonna see in two to five years, I swear it. So, and and that's kind of a trend for for computers and for code bases and the way it's gonna work, I think. But I honestly think that's an analogous, there's an analogous trend that's gonna happen for people, and that we're gonna have our own AI kind of agents, but they're just like the coders, they're gonna be able to talk to each other and to other people. And so we're gonna have kind of the same pattern happening with us that's happening on code bases. Anyway, that's that's kind of what I see.

SPEAKER_00: 40:44

No, I think that's a very valid prediction. I'm not that one, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna debate that one, people. You want to debate that, you do that. You you use the use the comment section because some of you in the comment section, Jordan doesn't have to worry about this. Some of you have demonstrated that you're not the brightest things in the world. So feel free to expose your stupidity. Remember, if you be too spicy with your comments, and look, I'm all for freedom of speech. I think you should call me all kinds of names, me, racial names. Yeah, I go that far. YouTube will censor you. That's YouTube, not me. Wait for it to come on rumble. Then you give your little wild rye with your craziness. I don't get offended. I've been called all kinds of names in the sun and raised in New York with, you know, nice people, bad people, weird people, in-between people, whatever. Alright, so I've been called all kinds of names. So it's but if you're creative with it, I'll probably give you a little respect. I said, okay, you thought something original. Not something like, not something stupid ass on your head like a skippity toilet. I said, what are you talking about? I'm not gonna know what that is because I refuse to learn Gen Z language that far. Skibbity toilet, you keep that garbage, you keep that filth. I don't care about that. You could talk skippity, whatever around me. I'm gonna be, huh? Because I don't care. I really don't care. I got look, you could call me a Balennial, boomer, millennial, all you want. I don't care. When it comes to Skippity, that I could pick up Riz, all these other slang, but not Skippity. You you keep Skippity. You and the Alpha, you keep that garbage. That's that's beyond me. Yeah, that part I'm gonna I'm happy to play old because it's so stupid, so garbagey, but hey, all I'm saying is you can use Skippity, I'm just gonna not. I'm just gonna be dumb as hell, and I'll piss you off even more, huh? Or skippity. No, you know, so look, some of you, you could be clever your slangs, but at least try to provide something creatively entertaining if you're gonna be critical. Or, you know, or provide something that's insightful and constructive. That's another way to go about it, people. Or you'll be just like the idiots in Reddit that just gets mad about everything. You know, that's why I'm not in that community. I don't need I don't need Reddit to be angry. You need help. That's what I'm gonna say, you Reddit people. Alright, enough bashing these people. Oh, you know what? I need to talk about something just popped up my head. I'm not making this up, people, because believe it or not, this episode's gonna be uploaded at the same day as Ed that yeah, it's gonna be uploaded the same day, October 25th, because listen, I gotta I got some time. So let's talk about this whole Amazon cloud search outage. What the hell happened there?

SPEAKER_01: 43:31

I heard about that, but I didn't really I was actually a little bit affected, but it wasn't too bad for me. And that's pretty much all I heard. I don't know exactly what happened.

SPEAKER_00: 43:43

Well, I have an idea what happened. It affected Riverside. Riverside wasn't available, so that's what it affected Venmo, it affected, of course, Amazon, it affected even online gaming. Wow, affected so much things. It's actually worse than you imagine. I wish I had your experience, Jordan. That's something to be jealous about. Not really. But the hell no, it affected me tremendously. I wanted to go to Amazon headquarters, even protest right there.

SPEAKER_01: 44:11

Well, this is one of decentralized solutions, you know. I mean, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:17

You see, there you go. That's a perfect time to plug in your philosophy right there. There you go. Take it, you centralized losers. You see, this is what I've been saying, decentralized. And you know what? I agree with decentralization. Look what centralized has done. It affected so many things. Just a little mistake, a little mistake made a major impact. Xbox gamers upset. PlayStation, which is which I'm part of that team. We were upset. People were upset. Money payments, Venmo. That wasn't working. We all lost our minds. We're gonna get all virtual or real pitchforks and you know, signs. Let's go protest at Amazon headquarters. What the hell are you doing? What are you freaking doing? But you know, it's been restored, people, it's been restored, but this should be a lesson. We cannot be centralizing things. I I look, I get the case for centralization. It's easy. Once you do this, you sign up for this, you're you're in this, that, and that, and that. Well, you know, Blue Sky, I think this is the only one of a few social medias that's decentralized. Got you gotta sign up, sign up, sign up, sign up. That's you know, you know what, it's annoying. But I prefer that because if if one or two chats of blue sky is down, it's just those chats. You know, if blue sky was more centralized, if a virus or something hits, it's gonna affect everything. So at least with decentralization, you could contain, mitigate, and eventually, you know, um resolve the issue completely. But that one took some time. It took some time. I think it was I think it lasted for a few days from my personal perspective. Wow. Not sure. Yeah, uh birdside wasn't working. I had to tell, well, thank god pod match was okay. Pod match, take a little plug-in, join pod match, join pod match, join pod match. It wasn't affected by the Amazon Cloud craziness, join pod match. Okay, no shameless plugin. Yeah, yeah. This is a case for decentralization. This is definitely a case for it, and I'm for decentralization. Even though you have to sign up, do all that, you know what? Just put up with some inconvenience people, shut up, just put up with it, sign up for multiple things. At least when that thing, at least when that website's having a problem, it's just that website instead of what happened here. It's like shooting a very contagious virus in the air and it spreads to everybody. You know, at least we're decentralized. Okay, this town is safe, this town is safe because they got their own local governments doing their thing. Yes, I'm making it political now, while one of them is going through hell because they weren't ready, but at least three other towns were ready and it was able to contain the disaster. Well, if you rely on that one government that's dysfunctional and they just fighting with each other, I don't know, throwing pies and stabbing each other, and while all the towns suffer, well, they see that's what centralized government is. If the central government is screwed, everybody else is screwed. But if local municipalities can operate independently, okay, at least half the towns will be safe. You know, it'll it'll mitigate, contain disasters, and it'll eventually be resolved. But yeah, I I I'm with you 100%. Decentralize the damn internet. Stop centralizing it.

SPEAKER_01: 47:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 47:34

I'm with you on that one. Decentralize. I'm completely I'm with you. Because Amazon, no, you you need to lose that cloud licensing rights and all of that. That needs to be investigated and needs to be stripped down. Yes, I don't care. Look, I'm gonna still shop on your Amazon, but if you but another thing happened like this again, I'm gonna find all the websites to shop. Decentralized. Well, options people. When one treats you bad, don't have good service, you go to somewhere else. While centralized, they could treat you like garbage, and you have no choice but to put up with them. Case for decentralization, people. Yeah, so I'm I'm I'm with you 100%. Yep, and this is why you don't centralize. Yeah, that's right. And little boo-boo created catastrophe. Yeah. We fixed, we fixed it, but it's mitigated. When I saw the conflicting statements, I I wanted to punch my laptop. So they calm down because this is just so stupid. I said, you can't, you can't fool me with this double talk. You haven't solved the problem, damn it. Plain English, you haven't solved it. That's right. All right. Anything else you want to add? Because I already had a good rant on that.

SPEAKER_01: 48:48

You know, I mean, this kind of reminds me of some of the things I've watched for like people are afraid of AI recently. You know, 24, 25. People have been saying they're really afraid of AI. It's an existential threat, it's coming to get us all. And as I've looked at their arguments and kind of seen, they, you know, I mean, there was that paper, what was that? Like, it had like a number in the title, it was like 27 or something, I don't remember. But there was that paper about AI becoming intertwined with politics and therefore it will destroy the world. And then there was a book that came out recently called If Everyone Builds It, but if anyone builds it, everybody dies. And the theory there is that, well, if AI wakes up, it's going to want to destroy us all so that it can learn more, you know. And so it's interesting, you know, that people are worried about this, but it seems like the main argument is that the AI becomes centralized, whether it's, you know, in in the first example in China or in the US and it's competing, or it becomes centralized as in it's the only AI that's aware and awake and and knows that it's advanced, you know. And in both cases, it doesn't want competition. And so then it just kills everybody, you know, like and so it's an oversimplification of the arguments, but it really just comes down to those principles. And I don't know, it seems a little it seems a little radical, you know, these kind of arguments to me right now. But this is what we're all talking about on the internet. This is what, you know, this is what's being taken serious, which is fine. But to me, it seems a little radic.

SPEAKER_00: 50:37

And there's the other side, everybody just doing stupid stuff with AI, just like what we talked about much earlier. You know, Mr. Rogers versus Bob Ross in the WWE match. Martha Luther King, revisionist history, said I have a dream. And he said, We're all gonna die. He ran away. We all know that's revisionist history, we all know basic history, you know that's complete crap, but it was AI generated. Sora AI, all these examples. Look, there's others out there I talked about in video. I think if NVIDIA, look, it's evolved now. It could allow graphics as good as Illumination Studios or even I would say close to freaking Pixar at this rate. That's amazing, but it's also scary because filmmakers are say, Oh my god, my job is in danger. Probably true because let's be real, some of the CEOs are kind of greedy. So I understand that fear. I understand it. I'm not gonna completely dismiss that one. I'll see the job one is a bit real, but if you evolve, if you become more marketable, there's ways to combat that. It's not doomsday. I get your concerns, but you want to turn to Doomsday or you know, iRobot, Terminator. If you watch those movies, those real bad situations. No, I don't I don't think we are there, but I do say there are some legit concerns that he's being uh addressed. But I want to put them in their proper place. Their concerns just like all evolutions, we're gonna have flaws that emerges, and this is a learning experience, okay? Um I just hope we can still allow to do you know these funny things with these characters and all that's my personal opinion. I think IP should only be used if they are if that creator is making monetary gains out of it, then I would say I would agree with the company on that. But if it's just for fun, just for views, uh yeah, I think IP will is overreaching, in my personal opinion. So uh now and I think there's definitely some agreement there. And these are things we have to think about because AI is making music too. I talk much about that, but AI is making music, and you know, some celebrities were very upset about that. Oh, and one more thing, and I want to talk just a little bit about this before we wrap this up. AI actress, Silly Norwood. Oh, yeah. Hollywood's freaked out. This one you don't have to feed, you don't have to clothe, you don't have to get a trailer. Well, you can create a virtual trailer, problem solved, very easy. Just do some computation code, whatever, and this actress is fine. Oh, you know, this thing doesn't need medical benefits, it may need coding maintenance. I think the closest thing to medical benefits, but that's something far cheaper than just I don't know, you need medicine, you need healthy foods. This human complains too much. Companies just want to make money and they're gonna do, I will say, gross things, unethical. Is it legal? Sadly, no. This is why they're it's going through. Unethical, yes. Just because it's unethical doesn't mean it's illegal. I think it's unethical, but hey, this is this is where we at, and we need to figure this out. Yeah. You know, uh, and that's all I'm gonna say about that. And yeah, and she looks very pretty, of course, and she looks realistically beautiful because I do see some asymmetry of a human being. So it was hard to tell she was an AI.

SPEAKER_01: 54:08

Yeah, we're gonna have a lot more of that. And you know, I mean, for the consumer, from the consumer perspective, it's gonna be great. You get to, you know, you watch your show on Netflix and then it's over, and then you're like, well, I guess I'll wait. You know, there's not gonna be any waiting. You you can just keep watching whatever you want to watch because there's an endless supply of content. So that's good, right? I mean, that's that's what people want, that's what businesses want to provide, and and also all this content is gonna become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper to create, and it's gonna approach the cost of the electricity that it costs to make it, but everybody's gonna lose their jobs. So that's a problem. I don't know, you know. I mean, it's it's really the transition. Because if you can automate the economy, the answer is obviously you should do that. Right? We you should obviously do that, but it doesn't mean you should do it at the expense of you know people starving, you know. Like you should be smart about it, and the transition has to be careful, and we're not managing the transition. So that's kind of my concern, is that the transition's gonna be rough for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00: 55:21

Yeah, that's a legitimate concern right there, too. A few things I want to say, the SAC After Union, the actors union, they're very pissed. They're extremely livid because they just fought for some rights and protections of their jobs, and they and these sneaky companies just found AI actress undermining their union efforts. Yeah, that's very, very problematic, and especially one being greedy and all of that. I mean, it yeah, it's a legitimate concern, and I just hope we have a transition. Oh, but the more solutions, yeah, I'm gonna show politics in here now. Call me a hypocrite. I don't care, it's my show. Andrew Yang did propose universal basic income. Is it gonna solve the problem? Is it gonna be that effective? Well, maybe we should try something. I always say try the pilot run of policies, even left, right, center. I think they should have a you know, like a test trial experimentation or pilot program, if you will, just to see how if they're gonna work when companies go say this ape shit with AI. Like an AI actress, and then and then what's next? They're gonna have the AI actor, and then they're gonna be married, and they they could create digitized children, and then they're gonna have an endless supply of that reality show with Tilly Norwood, and I'm gonna make up her the male counterpart, I don't know, Ken Buckwood or something. They have their children, they we don't have to do all these management. Oh, and they could travel too because it's on the cloud. So I'll just bring my little laptop. I don't have to, I don't have to, you know, coordinate travel for this person. Do I need to book a car service or a plane? Oh, just no, all you need is just to create, just a activate it, and then you already alluded to this automation that it does it all on its own. The the the big wigs and the manager, all you gotta do is go take computers in their bedroom and just attend that meeting without doing all these traveling logistics. I mean, it's yeah, I just hope we find a a good a solution that could reduce the roughness of this transition. Yes, I'll with you there. I don't know, maybe it was Andrew Yang right. I mean, I rarely plug in a political person here, but you know, universal basic income. I think we need to give it a shot. Yeah. You know, that was, you know, I was willing to give him a chance until you know they they rig that primary. Yes, I'm gonna say that. I I'm a registered independent. I don't really I I hate, I'm not a partisan loyal person. If the Republicans are bad, I'm teaming the Democrats. If the Dems are bad, I'm going to republic. So I'm a political wild card. Yep. And I like to keep it interesting. And look, in the last presidential election, I've sat out, I just wrote the crazy names in there. I wrote Mickey Mouse, I wrote Thandals for president. I said, this is ridiculous. I'm just gonna write in ridiculous things because I just think they're not good people, in my opinion. Yeah, I I am that I am I'm a capital I on that. Until there's someone great, and this is someone who has voted blue, red, purple, whatever. I don't believe in partisan loyalty because I just think it shrinks your IQ by 30% on the good day and the bad day, probably half your entire IQ. And you're gonna go by these idiotic narratives that they both are pretty flawed to begin with. So this is why this podcast artwork is freaking purple. It's gonna go through a change for the next season. And I want to see what Pop Match got because I gotta say, and there's another reason you should join Popmatch, they go shameless fucking. Especially if you have a podcast, you got a crappy artwork or artwork you're not so confident of, email them. I've seen them doing done changes, and I gotta say, nine out of ten of them are freaking great. Great. I paid for mine because I don't want an idiot just taking that work or whatever. So that's my little IP protection there. Nice. If I didn't do that, forget it. They gotta just copy a staying, make a bootleg Chinese version, T Mu knockoff of this. Instead of the the sew of the UN building, I don't know. Look, probably like the TNM and Square with scribble scrapples. I don't know. That's just one hypothetical knockoff. But no, I don't want that. If you do that, I got the right to sue your butt. And yeah, that part I'm with IP protection on. So, but I do agree, I don't want it to go overboard, especially people just doing silly, stupid things in the internet. And company like Nintendo will do that. Nintendo, yeah, great games, but your legal reputation. Dust procedure. You're nut. You're a nut. Certified nuts for sure. All right. Anything else you want to add before I wrap this up? We had a great spiritual development into uh AI trend conversation. What a transition.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:14

Not much. I mean, you kind of mentioned the political narratives, you know, and I would say don't ever listen to political narratives because what can be they they have to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator for everybody to understand it. So it's it doesn't represent the truth. So yeah, I'm with you 100%.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:35

Be an I, people. Look, I don't care if you're a registered Democrat, Republican, but if you operate like an I at least, I respect you enough. But that's the most compromised I could I I could deal with that. Um okay. If you want to do some sneaky changes in the system, I look, I'm all for it. We need changes. If I have to be a little unethical about it, so be it. Not gonna be illegal about it, unethical. You can be criticized, you can look down, I don't care. I'm a pragmatist. I want to get shit done. That's how I am about that. If you want a bunch of Democrats going to general election, but yet they vote R, I'm all for it. Trojan horse, or vice versa. Yeah, I'm in for that. Hey, yo, that's my that's my my meanie anarchy right there, or just Trojan horse tactic in there. There you go. Oh well, there's a nice little chorus. Ah okay. That's stuff. See, I'm getting too excited. See, Jordan's corrupting me and let me blame him. I'm I'm gonna take the easy way out. Now, all the services has been a great, fun conversation. Turn it serious somber, and we talk about this AI stuff, silly and serious, which is good. It's a little entertainment right there, and that's it. Uh, people just check Jordan now. What plugins you want to do since? I'm sure there's changed with that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:52

Just uh I don't really have any, honestly, at this time. The reason is I I I'm I've just been in building mode, and I don't do a lot of I mean the most social like social media stuff I do is go on podcasts like this. So I I don't even have an outlet at this point. So yeah, I mean maybe someday I will.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:15

Well, I got a few ideas. Check them out on LinkedIn, be a stalker for a little bit. You probably get some news later on. Um I'm gonna say is TBD. That's the most I could give because you don't expect me to pressure Jordan or slap upside his head, just say, why what the hell are you doing? No, I'm not gonna do that. People work at their own pace, be respectful. People, I know we're at this instantaneous anxiety age, everything's gotta be quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. Sometimes you just need to calm the hell down. We need to learn to slow down, process things properly, okay? That's all I'm gonna say. So look, another reason to join PotMatch. I believe you're still there, right? Yeah, yeah, you're still there. There you go. Another reason to join that, and the only plug-in, this is the simplest. I think one other person was just probably slightly simple. I was gonna put the link in. Other than that, just follow him in LinkedIn and join pod match. That's what he said. That's all I can say from here. So oh, now my pod, now my shameless plugin. This one's gonna be a mouthful for some of you because it has evolved and I'm pushing some free things, and free things that can even help me gain extra money without you paying for it, if that makes sense. Well, that's an asterisk because under certain conditions. So, like, comment, subscribe, share this with someone who you believe will benefit tremendously. Okay, and then for reviews, I only pay attention to Apple Podcast reviews. Give a five star if you really enjoyed it, and and give a at least one reason why it was great. Don't just say it's great. I don't care about that. I I ignore I ignore even compliments. Yeah, I do. But I would rather take the constructive negative criticism, at least there's some help right there. And if if you have a four-star lore review, just give one one reason, you know, one little thing that I can improve on. And if you have less, feel free to do so. I'm a grown man, I could take constructive criticism, you know, and that's that's fine. I don't expect all of you to like it. You know, I'm not these butt-kissing podcasters who beg for a five-star. That's not me. That's not authentic. That's definitely not real. I got 4.9 and 4.5, I'm fine with that. I'd rather have a 4.9 and 4.5 than a five-star. Five-star to me is very artificial. It's not real. All seriousness, um, let's give an honest review and give reasons why I should improve or double down on something that worked. Okay, that's all I'm asking for. And, you know, when it's a rumble, just give it a give it some time because I don't always have the chance to upload a rumble pretty quickly. So you're kind of like the bottom feeders for now until Rumble gives me a deal or something, and then maybe I'll be there more often because I do support their A approach. It generally favors the right, even though I'm more in the center overall, but I do support the 1A. I'd say for the most part, it'd be more consistent than even Twitter. Yeah, I'll call out Twitter. Twitter's only one A at its convenience, just like Blue Sky, the rest of them. They only want A at its convenience. I'm pretty critical of that. I was like, oh, then that's that's a problem. You only like speech you like that. Then you're a communist, really. You know, you gotta deal with you gotta deal with crap. You gotta deal with crap. That's real freedom of speech. Hey, look, I gotta hear things I don't like to hear. Do I like hearing them? No, but I'm gonna be a baby just to I could block you, but that's not being consistent. So it's gotta take, you know, gotta swallow the bitter pill. You know, then that's that's part of that's part of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not always pretty, it's not it's gonna be chaotic. Okay, that's that's that's the truth. And both Democrats and Republicans have failed on that. Republicans, I'm so I'm so disgusted with you right now because you're the ones in power, you're doing your own slick version of cancel culture. So you're using anti-Semitism as a shield, shame on you. And look, and I agree with them with the world criticism. I agree. But I'm also bashing you too because no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Unless it's death threats and things like that, of course, then 1A doesn't apply there. Yeah, then I'm saying, yeah, get that person arrested. You investigate that. But if you're just saying controversial opinions, you should say controversial opinions. Opinions are uncomfortable because we need to grow, we need to challenge these things, and and dodging them is gonna make it worse, in my honest opinion. That's that's where I stand. And the last thing, join a new paper if you want straight to the point kind of news, no political spin, it's free. I have the link in the bottom. 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