35. The Heart of Health and Wellness with Dr. Kendra-Lee Pearman

In this episode of ABWilson's Heart of the Matter, host Aderonke Bademosi Wilson welcomes Dr. Kendra-Lee Pearman, a multi-faceted health educator, naturopath, and wellness advocate based in Bermuda. Dr. Pearman shares insights into the journey that led to her establishing a holistic wellness center in St. George's, Bermuda. Their conversation explores Kendra's inspirations, her unique approach to health education, and the deep personal experiences that fuel her work.

Dr. Pearman reflects on her roles as a daughter, mother and grandmother, emphasizing the joy and life lessons she gains from her family. She explains her path as an educator in psychology and health, which led her to open a wellness center that integrates naturopathic care with practical health education.

From collecting Barbie dolls to being an avid gardener, Dr. Pearman shares her favorite hobbies and the joy of growing her own herbs and vegetables. Kendra's center focuses on health education, detox programs, with an on-site kitchen for hands-on classes. She highlights the importance of natural health solutions and the community-centered approach of her practice.

Reflecting on her role as a caregiver to her mother, Dr. Pearman discusses lessons learned about love, commitment, and self-acceptance. She speaks about her personal self-care routines, including walks in nature, monthly facials, and a commitment to her faith as her daily anchor. She also shares her excitement for launching a detox juice line and plant-based sauces, crafted to promote wellness through accessible and nutritious options. 

Aderonke and Kendra explore the courage required to start a business later in life and advice for others considering a similar path. Finally, Dr. Pearman discusses teaching her 10-year-old granddaughter business skills through a summer lemonade stand, underscoring the value of perseverance and commitment.

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Aderonke (00:01.383)
Welcome to another edition of AB Wilson's Heart of the Matter, a podcast that uses overwhelmingly positive questions to learn about our guests, where every episode uncovers extraordinary stories of triumph, growth, and empowerment. Hi, I'm Adiranka Badamosi Wilson, and my guest on today's show is Dr. Kendra Lee Peermont. Kendra is a parent, grandparent,

KLP (00:07.467)
you

Aderonke (00:31.187)
health educator, Christian. Kendra, welcome to the show.

KLP (00:35.837)
Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Aderonke (00:38.673)
And so Kendra, let's talk about your descriptors. You described yourself as a parent-grandparent. Why both?

KLP (00:48.174)
couldn't really separate the two because of course I've been a parent since my gracious I was 21 so my oldest daughter is gonna be 39 but I feel like when my grandbabies came it was like a whole new thing and so I tell people if I could have had the grandchildren before the children I would have did that.

Aderonke (01:14.119)
And how old are your grandchildren?

KLP (01:16.142)
So Amari is 16, Miley is 10, Javi is 7, and Mayan is 6. And interestingly, yes, interestingly enough, Mayan was born on Javi's first birthday. So I have two grandchildren that are born on the same day. Yes, that was a feat.

Aderonke (01:33.353)
Wow, that's a feat. And sounds well planned. And how the educator and Christian, let's talk about both.

KLP (01:44.652)
Okay, so you know, I've been an educator for many years, more on the psychology, developmental psychology, that was my track that I did in school. I also taught at the elementary level for quite a bit, and I've also taught at the tertiary level in both bachelor and master's courses, something that I've done here locally as well as overseas.

But my passion is really health, helping people learn about themselves, their health, and how they can actually be their own doctors. And so that is my passion right now. So I kind of join my love of health and my love of teaching together to become a health educator.

Aderonke (02:33.115)
And so where do you work? Where do you provide health education?

KLP (02:38.277)
So that kind of jumps me into the next part or next question, but I have opened up a health and wellness center in St. George's. so some of the health education that I do is individual to my clients that come to see me. I also do it at a group level and have also done it at a corporate level for different companies that have brought me in to talk to them about health and also from a church perspective.

Aderonke (03:08.669)
All right, so even before we go any further, I think we should let our listeners know that you actually live and work in Bermuda.

KLP (03:16.211)
Yes.

Aderonke (03:18.009)
And so let's go to the next question. Please share three interesting things about yourself our listeners may not know and your friends will be surprised to learn.

KLP (03:30.737)
Okay, well, I collect Barbie dolls. That's number one. And most people are surprised when they see that. Number two, I am an avid gardener. And so you can find me on any morning or Sunday in pink boots, in the garden, in mud, in rain, getting my fingernails full of dirt. And then the third thing is I love sunsets. So those are three very diverse things, but things that I really love to do.

Aderonke (04:01.083)
How many Barbie dolls do you have?

KLP (04:02.955)
So I want to say I have about 35. At one point I believe I had about 48. 48 in total. Every year I try to collect the Christmas Barbie, or the holiday Barbie it's called, and I think the last one I got was 2023. So I have quite a collection.

Aderonke (04:24.849)
And do you display them? Do you bring them out? Do you take them out? How does that work?

KLP (04:30.293)
So, mine are actually out. So they're really dust collectors at this point. I wasn't interested in having them in the box because you really can't see the beauty of the dolls. And so I have them in my den displayed on my shelves and that's where they are.

Aderonke (04:47.824)
And did you see the movie when it came out?

KLP (04:50.217)
I did not, I did not know. My collecting of Barbies was quite interesting because my younger daughter got a Barbie doll. Someone bought her a Barbie doll and it was so pretty I didn't want her to mess it up. So I kind of took it from her and put it on a shelf. But even before, this is when we had moved to the US, but even before that I had started collecting a few in Bermuda. Not too many, just a few.

But from that one that she got, I want to say in 2000, I kind of sort of just kept going. So that's been 24 years of collecting Barbie dolls.

Aderonke (05:32.029)
Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing that. And, Abbott Gardner, what do you grow?

KLP (05:39.147)
So I have been growing and really growing as a gardener because not something that I would think I would do. People are shocked when they know that I actually am in the garden. But I grow everything from greens, I grow herbs, I grow lots of kale and green cruciferous vegetables for the juicing that I do. But also cucumbers, tomatoes, eggplant.

carrots, beans, sweet potatoes, beans, as much as I can. I have a nice little herb garden, which is on my porch. And I have parsley and two different types of basil. I have oregano and chives and thyme that is growing right now.

Aderonke (06:34.695)
You sound like a very accomplished gardener. Congratulations.

KLP (06:38.323)
Yeah, and this is the first year I'm actually growing from seeds. So it's a learning curve because normally I just go and I buy my seedlings and I put them in the ground. But I really wanted to learn how to do it from the seed. So I'm actually got little babies. I feel like a grandmother with these little babies. Little baby broccolis and kale and different lettuces.

and cucumbers, they're growing and so I water them every day, I look out for them, I give them food and so just looking forward to them being able to put in my garden and then I can eat them.

Aderonke (07:18.61)
Well, happy planting, happy growing. So Kendra, can you tell us about a recent accomplishment or success that you're particularly proud of?

KLP (07:20.971)
Yes.

KLP (07:31.211)
So I finished a second doctorate last year in naturopathic doctorate, Doctor of Naturopathy. And that was something that I really wasn't on a path to do, but something that always interested me and you want to be able to get as much education as you can so at least you will be being able to be taken seriously. So that was a great accomplishment, but coupled with that,

I opened up a health and wellness center in St. George's. And this is one of the first of its kind. And it's really an interesting concept because in the middle of this wellness center, I have a commercial kitchen where I can teach cooking classes. I actually can use that commercial kitchen to make or to create different things that I can sell. So it's a unique setup.

actually the health department had never seen anything like this when we were doing it but they guided me all along the way and so I see clients in it I can have groups gathering in it I can have cooking classes in it and yeah I have a sauna that infrared sauna that people can come and get into for health benefits so it's a one-of-a-kind that I've opened up here in St. George's.

Aderonke (08:57.789)
What's an infrared sauna?

KLP (09:00.18)
So it is a sauna that uses infrared light. infrared light, they've been studying this for quite some time for medicinal perspective to see what it actually can do to the body. And infrared light can penetrate quite deeply. You can see it. It's red light. But it does deep, quite deep in the tissues. And it is said to be really great with inflammation, people that have.

different types of health ailments, that the infrared light actually can be very therapeutic and help with the healing process as another alternative way to treat disease or treat illness.

Aderonke (09:43.433)
So what type of condition would somebody come to you for an infrared treatment?

KLP (09:50.92)
So it's something that I don't just, I don't try to use it in isolation. It's generally a part of a individual's health journey with me. But someone who has inflammation, for example, arthritis, or just wants to be able to detox their bodies, the infrared saunas are excellent to use for that particular thing. So someone who maybe having pain from inflammation, the infrared light,

is really helpful with that. Someone who is trying to lose weight and wants to detox their bodies and get rid of just toxins in the body, they can come and get into the infrared sauna as well. So those are a few ways, yes.

Aderonke (10:33.511)
And how will people find you?

KLP (10:38.38)
So I am, I have, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Instagram, I'm on, and I have a web page.

Aderonke (10:48.169)
and tell me your website address.

KLP (10:50.284)
So my website, I know this is awful, right? I don't necessarily go to it very much, right? But it's www.refresh ministry BDA. Now refresh has two S's in it. So it's R-E-F-R-E-S-S-H ministrybda.com.

Aderonke (11:14.523)
Okay, excellent. Thank you.

Aderonke (11:19.389)
So Kendra, please tell us about a time when you made a difference in another's life. What were the circumstances? Paint a picture for me.

KLP (11:28.426)
Okay, so mom was diagnosed. She got a terminal diagnosis in 2013 and I have been a part of her journey the whole time. My dad, before he passed in 2018, had told me that if I see my mom really starting to look weak or look sick, that I was to...

move up to his property and take care of her. And so in 2021, I noticed that she was starting to, you know, her health was starting, she was looking, she was looking so great. And so I, my husband and I uprooted from our home in St. George's and we moved up to my dad's estate to take care of my mom. And for two years, I was her caregiver.

But for the last 10 months of her life, I actually was doing it full time. I quit my job and I came home to take care of her. And, you know, she was my ride or die. Wherever I went, she went. Wherever she needed to go, I took her. You know, she couldn't drive anymore. And so I became her chauffeur. I became, you know, I was just it was her and I, you know, we did everything together.

And so, you know, it was a time that I treasure, I treasure every moment. It makes me a little emotional to think about it now, but it was such a good time. And then when we got the prognosis that she didn't have much time, I'm just so grateful that I was there every step of the way to make her food, to feed her.

when I needed to help her to get her clothes on, I was there. And even when she passed, I was there. So it was bittersweet, I guess, but such an honor to be able to take care of her, someone who has given everything to me. She just was, she was there for me. She was my backbone. She believed in me. She supported me and

KLP (13:54.082)
It was such a joy to be able to do that. you you ask, you the thing that really touched my heart the most was that she would tell her friends, they were called, do you need anything? You know, they would come, do you need anything? And she would say, my daughter is taking excellent care of me. I don't need anything. And that, that was worth everything to me.

Aderonke (14:24.233)
you

Aderonke (14:30.641)
What lessons did you learn during that time?

KLP (14:34.592)
I learned that.

KLP (14:39.626)
Nothing else mattered. You know, we had time to forgive each other for just stupid stuff, you know, as families. I learned that...

Nothing mattered. It didn't matter what I thought. It didn't matter what she thought. We just knew that we had each other. When it came to kind of going through her stuff, we went through her belongings, what did she want? We planned everything. And so I had to listen and just let her speak her truth.

So there were things that she wanted me to keep. And even though it may not have mattered to me, it mattered to her that I kept it. There were things that she was specific. She wanted, you know, her niece to have this and she wanted her sister to have that. There were things that, you know, I may have looked at and say, Mom, it's, you know, just let it go. No, no, I specifically want you to do this with my stuff. And so I learned that

I had to treasure and listen and do what she wanted me to do because this was her last will and testament. This is the last things that she had control of and I had to respect that. And so one thing I had to put aside whatever I thought and I had to just allow her to tell me what she wanted me to do with her stuff and her things.

Aderonke (16:21.629)
Thank you so much for sharing that. Thank you.

Aderonke (16:28.285)
What were the key strengths and qualities you relied on to make a difference?

KLP (16:34.477)
I think it was love and commitment. think those were the two things that drove me and honor, Just honoring my father's wishes, honoring her wishes. And because of my love and commitment to honoring my parents, because it was my dad who asked me to promise to go out there to my mother and honoring his

his wish that, you know, I would think would be the things that were most important to just loving and commitment and then honoring my parents.

Aderonke (17:24.563)
Can you recall a situation where you overcame a challenge that led to personal growth? What did you learn from that experience?

KLP (17:33.911)
You know, I've, and you can probably remember from Barkley, but you know, was pretty much assertive. I was outspoken, pretty confident, but I recognize that not everybody appreciated that about me and tried to pick apart my personality and turn it into a negative. That's really hurtful when people see

or people that have their own challenges in their own lives, or they may have their own insecurities and they see someone who exhibits things that are not like them or that they see as threats to them, they then sometimes pick apart other people. And I've had that challenge in my life and it's not a very nice thing to go through. But I had to learn to love me.

And to recognize that with my assertiveness and with my confidence and with my strengths as who I am as a person, my mother was very assertive. She didn't let anybody walk over her. She was quite strong. And I realized that I got that from her.

My father was a no-nonsense person and he stood for what he believed and I got that from him. And for, I had to kind of dig a little deeper and just dig in. This is who I am. This is the person that God made me. Now that doesn't mean that I didn't have to have some rough edges that had to be softened and.

didn't mean that there were some, I had to listen to my tonality and recognize maybe I'm a little too strong on that or maybe I'm a little too, you know, shocked with my tone. And so in all of that, I kind of took a step back and just kind of listened to myself and realized that I needed to soften some things and just maybe not have so much passion because

KLP (19:51.335)
that passion may have been taken in the wrong way and recognize that, you know, not everybody's opinion matters. That was a lesson that I had to learn. And yeah, and to thine own self be true. Like that was my apathetic that I had to embrace for me and recognize that, you know what? I am who I am and I'm not gonna change myself.

to fit you because at the end of the day, I could change all I want to try to make you feel better, but you don't live with me, you don't come home with me, you don't cry with me, you're not there. And so I had to learn to love myself. And in that, just be the authentic Kendra that I am.

Aderonke (20:44.379)
Do find that, and you and I are the same age, do you find that you've gained greater acceptance of yourself as you've aged?

KLP (20:49.842)
Yes.

KLP (20:57.319)
Yes, yes.

I definitely, you know, when I turned 40, I think I was like, okay, whatever you think that's on you. When I got to 50, it was like, okay, you know, I don't, I'm not even taking that on anymore. At 60 now, it's like, I'm not even trying, you know, I'm not even trying to fit into anyone's narrative of who they think I should be. And so it's been that acceptance all along.

And as I've gotten older, I actually see a lot of my mom in me, which is sometimes scary, because I hear myself speaking and I'm like, my goodness, that's Bonnie talking, you know. And then my kids will say, you sound just like Nana, you know. But I realized that as I'm growing, of course I'm softening as I'm getting older, but also much more reflective, much more reflective, much more listen and before responding because I...

definitely can have been impulsive in the past, but definitely kind of taking a step back and just kind of listening more, being more thoughtful and reflective before actually speaking. So that has definitely come with age.

Aderonke (22:20.999)
You are listening to A.B. Wilson's Heart of the Matter podcast.

Welcome back to Heart of the Matter. My guest today is Dr. Kendra Lee-Pairman. Kendra, thank you so much. I've been enjoying this conversation. And given the work that you do, given the training that you've had and the training that you provide, what self-care practices or strategies help you to sustain your energy and motivation while navigating your journey?

KLP (22:54.397)
Well, I am a woman of faith. I believe in prayer and Bible study. And so no matter what I'm going through in my life, that is my anchor. That is a part of me every day. That's morning, you know, I go to God, I pray, I for guidance and direction. And I read the Bible for inspiration. I read it for guidance. And so that is...

you know, the strategy that I use is just a part of me. I like to walk in nature. And so I live in an area where there's a railroad trail. And so I take my dogs out and I just like to walk and I like to watch the long tails and the sun and you know, I go and sometimes the fish are jumping. And so those are things that are really therapeutic for me. So I love to get out there in nature.

Every month I get a facial and a back massage. That's been for years. That's one thing that I do. I get my facial and back massage once a month. Every month I do that. That's self-care. But then also it's about being true to myself. If I don't want to do it, I don't. If I don't feel like going, or I don't feel obligated anymore to have to go to this and respond to that.

make sure I'm at every single thing. I decide when I feel like going, if I feel like showing up, and if I don't. But then I like to learn, I'm always learning something. I love to be, my mind is one that I love to be stimulated by different things. And so I belong to the community of health. It's an international group that I belong to and so.

every maybe every couple of months I actually do a health seminar on something and so I research, I get into it and then I present it to others you know and so that's something that that really keeps me going constantly learning more and more and more so that that can help other people.

Aderonke (25:09.627)
And I just want to go back to something you said earlier and you touched on it again as you were talking about self-care, walks in nature and sunsets. What is it about sunsets? What attracts you to them?

KLP (25:23.601)
You know, I live, where I live, there is nothing between my house and North Carolina. It's just water. And every day, the sky is different, every single day. And I just started to take pictures of the sunsets. And so I kind of try to do it on a regular basis. And I have people that actually wait for me to post. They're like, where's you? We haven't seen you do any sunsets in a while. Where are you?

And so the sky is just always so amazing and it's never the same. The picture is never the same. And so it's something about the sunset that I love. And you know, there's that old Indian adage that says that you don't know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. But as someone who studied psychology, you know, we say you don't know a man until you've walked a mile in his head. And so when I look out at the sunset,

what I see is different from what someone else is gonna see because our experiences are different. And so I may be driving home and it's almost sunset and I'll stop the car and I'll say to my husband, I gotta take a picture. Or if I'm doing something at the time and I see that the sun is setting, I'll say to him, could you go outside and take a picture? I've even had my grandchildren go outside and take pictures for me just so that I can get that sunset. So it's just something about the ending of the day and.

the sun going down because when it's going down that means it's rising somewhere else. Someone else, somewhere else in the part of the world is getting a new beginning. So it's just for me, it's just like the ending of the day, the gratefulness of making it through the day and knowing that somewhere else, somewhere else around the world, a new day is beginning. So I don't know, that's just my love of sunsets.

Aderonke (27:16.509)
That's lovely. And how might sharing your experiences of success and growth create a positive ripple effect in your family, community, the world?

KLP (27:32.009)
So, know, to thine own self be true. That is what I think every one of us has to live by. Not to be shaped by what someone else's thoughts. There's a quote and it says, not to be a mere reflector of someone else's thoughts, but to be true to who you are. And I have learned that in life.

friends will come and go, people will come and go, colleagues will come and go, but at the end of the day you have to live of yourself. And so you really have to be true to who you are, you know, and to live that authentic life and to be authentic, you know. I have three children and they are all entrepreneurs and you know, they are living their, being true to themselves, you know.

It hasn't always been easy to kind of navigate through life and figure myself out. I became an entrepreneur when my son, he wasn't even born, my second daughter was like one and I started my own business. And it's interesting that all three of my children have started their own businesses and then here I am at this age of my life doing the same thing all over again. So I believe that that...

mantra of being true to yourself and following your dreams and has been instilled in them so much that all three, all four of us really have become our own bosses and are charting our own paths as to life and living their life to the fullest that they can. So I think that's what I've instilled in my children.

Aderonke (29:26.577)
And you touched on starting a business at this age. What prompted you to say, okay, you're going to do the health and wellness?

KLP (29:37.445)
Well, while my mom was home sick and I was home, that's when I was impressed to finish the doctor of naturopathy. I said I'd never do another doctorate. I did a PhD. Like, why do I need to do anything more? But when I did that, had started doing like years ago, probably back to 2016, I had been doing these 30 day health programs. And over the years, I might have had

know, hundreds of people that have come through learning about their health and wellness, you know, just from a part-time perspective. But then I had, when I finished the doctor of naturopathy, I, you know, was like, okay, what am I gonna do? And then I started to think about, well, do I do this one-on-one? Get away from the 30 day, or still do the 30 day, but focus on one-on-one. And, you know, I've been praying about it and I had this friend

who introduced me to one of her friends who had cancer. And she said, I think you should go and see Dr. Pehrman. And so this person came to me. She wasn't sure, know, allopathic medicine was saying this, but she wanted to really try a natural pathway. And so I prayed about it and I said, Lord, if she signs on me as a client, then I will know that this is what you want me to do.

And she signed on me as a client. She was my very first client. And so that kind of gave me like wind beneath my wings to say, okay, I can do this. So I started to do it from home and because I was still home with mom at the time, started to do from home. And so it ended up where I had, you know, quite a few people that were looking for a natural path. And so

I said, well, at this age, I really want to live a simpler life and I really want to live out my passion. And my passion is health and wellness. And I have a lot of knowledge and information and experience because I always guinea pig on myself, my husband and my children. And so I have a lot of experience and even my dogs, even, you know, do natural with them. And so, you know, I have a lot of knowledge and as being a part of this community that I mentioned.

KLP (32:03.652)
constantly learning more and more and more. And so here I am just making this path on my own and loving every minute of it.

Aderonke (32:13.533)
So last year when I started my company in 2023, the kind of comments that I received is, you're very brave to be at this age. And I guess being in our late 50s at that point.

KLP (32:35.972)
to hurry, something drops.

Aderonke (32:36.745)
That's OK. That's OK. Being in our late 50s at that point seemed as though we should be settling into the senior roles in our career and our corporation or for public entity somewhere along the line. And people saw that.

KLP (32:51.981)
Everyone?

Aderonke (33:02.781)
move as being, for me, as being bold and brave. Did you feel that way? Did you feel that you had to, that you needed to be brave? Did it take bravery for you to essentially start over again?

KLP (33:18.242)
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was a huge leap of faith because like I said, the first of its kind and you know, I'm just getting established. Like my name isn't out there in this particular health and wellness, right? And so it was a huge, huge step. And then even to rent a space, you know, to rent a space, not like just walking from home.

I have a space that I'm in and that rent to pay, but I've been blessed and I'm so grateful that this is the only rent that I have to pay. So that's a plus in that regard. But it was brave. It was brave. people would stop by the center and they would think, I make smoothies. And I'm like, I'm not a smoothie maker.

or they think that I'm like, people were coming, what are you, what's on the menu today? And I'm like, not restaurant, you know. So just an understanding of what it is that I do, it's still kind of eekin' out there. And so, you know, it's just trying to craft that path. And so, yeah, it's been interesting.

Aderonke (34:39.773)
What advice would you give to somebody that's perhaps in their late 50s going into their 60s or even already in their 60s about creating your own path and being bold and starting anew, trying something different that is meaningful to you? What advice would you give someone?

KLP (35:04.974)
think the first thing is you gotta believe in yourself. You gotta believe, because it's gonna be dark days. Like, there are be days when there are no clients, right? You know that. And it's gonna be days where like, okay, the door's open and nobody walks in. But you have to believe in yourself and the difference that you're trying to make in people's lives. So I think it's about being authentic.

and recognizing that you may have those moments where there's a lot of people coming in and you may have those moments where there's not a lot of people coming in, but stick with it. When I started my business back in, my gracious, I must have been 30 then, so 30 years ago. When started my business, Little Tight Service, there were just a few pickup services at the time.

and they didn't even have vans that could do it and I had to buy a van and get it fitted for these kids and you know all of this and you know sometimes it was like okay I'm having a summer day program no kids you know but you persevered and then you realize there was so many coming that you had to turn away so I think you just have to believe in yourself and value yourself enough to stick with it

And even though there may be a tough week or a tough month or a tough two months, you still got to believe that this is something that is going to bring meaningful eventually. You believe in it, others people believe in it, and it will bring meaning. Yeah.

Aderonke (36:42.483)
Thank you. Thank you. think that that would have helped somebody today. What exciting opportunities do you see on the horizon? And how do these opportunities align with your passions and aspirations?

KLP (36:47.195)
Mmm.

KLP (36:57.189)
So I make juice all the time, like I'm a juicer. I know how to make juice, they're good. And I'm actually getting ready to launch a detox juice line for people to be able to purchase detox juices. And so that's exciting because I said to you wasn't going to do this.

not gonna make juice right but it comes as a part of helping people to be healthy and to detox and and many people want to they don't know really how to start where to start they don't have a juicer they don't necessarily want to buy a juicer even if they do have a juicer it's a lot of work so I'm just about getting this on my website I'm excited because I purchased a pearl crash juicer so I'm just waiting for it to get to Bermuda

I've had so many juices over the years as I've been doing these 30 day programs. I've probably had about maybe 15 juices by now. But I'm hoping that this one that I've purchased is the very last one that I'm gonna need. So I'm really excited about that. I'm looking to get into doing some plant-based sauces. you know, I'm strict in how I eat. So I don't...

Sometimes you just don't feel like making it. But I can't really buy it. There's nowhere really to go to buy a nice whole plant food salad dressing that doesn't have vinegar in it, because I don't use vinegar. And so I'm thinking along the lines of doing something on those lines with sauces. No one that I can see is doing something like that. So I'm actually.

excited about doing my juice line and sauce line to be able to get that going very, soon.

Aderonke (39:04.009)
So just want to go back to two things you mentioned, vinegar. You said you don't use vinegar. Is there a particular reason?

KLP (39:11.493)
Well, vinegar is fermented and it is very acidic. And so I prefer to use limes and lemons for my acidity. And because vinegar is very processed, it's on the same lines as alcohol in the sense that it has to be very, very processed. And so I try to shy away from heavily, highly processed things and vinegar being one of them.

So I would prefer to use a lemon juice or lime juice as opposed to using something that's highly processed. And I use vinegar to like clean my bathroom. So I'm just thinking like, if it gets rid of mildew and mold, then what is it doing to my insides?

Hahaha!

Aderonke (40:05.033)
I'm speechless. I am totally speechless. Wow.

KLP (40:07.801)
Yeah, so yeah. So I use it as a natural cleanser. Like if I need to clean my bathroom, I'll throw it in the, you know, throw it in the bottom of the shower and just let it sit there and it gets rid of the mold and mildew.

Aderonke (40:11.806)
I'm...

Aderonke (40:24.913)
Okay, I will revisit Vinaka. And you've talked about your 30 day programs. Tell us a little bit more.

KLP (40:28.219)
Okay.

KLP (40:34.583)
So I have a 30 day program and what we do is we start with a detox. Actually, the next one is starting on Sunday the 6th. But we start with a detox. what we do is, well before we even start, we try to encourage people to stop eating a lot of processed foods and stuff so that the detox isn't so challenging, right? But it's about detoxing the body. So we actually do a fast.

three days, it could be as long as someone wants to fast. The longest I've fasted is 12 days, but some of my clients have fasted 15 days just drinking juice. But these are not just, you know, juices, these are juices that they're making themselves. So it will be green juices and yellow juices and red juices and orange juices, could be white juices in there as well. But the ingredients in the juices help to cleanse the body, that's the fruits, and then the...

the vegetables that we store. So we're looking at the nutrients that are coming out of the produce that we're actually detoxing with. And then as we go along, you know, every, we add fruits so you can start eating fruits. And then we add raw vegetables and then we add cooked vegetables and nuts. And then we add grains. And then at the end of the 30 days, we've added legumes. So it's all plant-based and then all the foods are

add it right back into the diet. So by the time you get to the end of the 30 days, you actually clenched your body, you're starting to restore your body. People who do it, they'll find they lose weight, inflammation will decrease in the body. Some people, their arthritis subsides because we use a lot of ginger and turmeric in the juices and in their foods. So it's a beginning of like a jumpstart, your health.

and wellness journey to help you to get to your health goals of where you want to be.

Aderonke (42:37.139)
Thank you. sounds super healthy and inviting, quite frankly. Kendra, what book recommendation do you have? It could be a book you read recently or something that has stayed with you over the years.

KLP (42:40.796)
Yes!

KLP (42:45.351)
Hmm.

KLP (42:54.931)
So as I mentioned earlier, I read the Bible every day. And so that is one of the, I mean, it's one book with 66 books, right? And so I just spend time in that. That's something that's an ongoing journey. I've read it through, I don't know how many times I've actually read through it, but I never stop. I just keep going, I just keep going, I keep going.

Then there's a book because I'm interested in natural health. There's a book called Ministry of Healing. And that book is a book that talks about the body and the healing. And so really, really, there's a lot of good gems in that one. And so those will be the two books. There's another book by, and the Ministry of Healing is a book by Alan White. And then there's Healthful Living that she also wrote and consoles on diets and foods.

And there's so much wisdom in these books that it's amazing that they were written so far, so long ago, but yet the information is so relevant even today. So those would be the four books, the Bible, the Ministry of Healing, Healthful Living, and Councils on Diets and Foods that I, those are the books that I really like. And if anybody is looking to be on a health journey, they will be the ones I would recommend.

Aderonke (44:16.979)
Thank you.

And so my last question, is there anything else? Do you have any final thoughts?

KLP (44:21.807)
Hmm.

KLP (44:25.659)
You know, I just thinking I summed it up with when life throws you lemons, make lemonade. Make lemonade with ginger. My granddaughter is 10 and this summer she started her lemonade stand in St. George's in the square. And so I taught her how to start a business and you know, how to make lemonade with ginger, you know. So it's just, you're never too young.

to start helping the next generation, or in this case, the next two generations from me, just learn about money and the importance of commitment. There were some days she didn't want to come. And I said, you're coming. It's three days a week. You've got to, you know, people are expecting you to be there. And so just teaching her about the importance of commitment and I let her pay her own rent.

So she took her money to the corporation of Hamilton and I'm saying Georgia, sorry. And she paid her own rent and just teaching her about business at 10 years old. So, you know, I think it's important if you have children, you know, help them to understand that everything doesn't come so easy. You know, they have to learn in life. And so that's something that I taught my children, but I didn't start a business with them, but I actually did it with my granddaughter to teach her.

how to start a business.

Aderonke (45:56.905)
Kendra, thank you for your time today. I've gained a lot of knowledge about health from you during our conversation. And these are the appreciation nuggets that I've taken away from today's talk. I had to learn to love me. That was one of the quotes that you had. And something that resonated with me, not everybody's opinion matters.

KLP (46:05.527)
Awesome.

KLP (46:15.875)
Mmm.

Aderonke (46:26.503)
That is so true. And to thy own South Beacher.

KLP (46:30.167)
Yes, yes, the last one I would say was, I may not be your cup of tea, but that's okay. Get another cup of tea.

Aderonke (46:42.409)
You

KLP (46:46.689)
Yeah?

Aderonke (46:49.149)
Kendra, thank you so much. I appreciate you taking the time to join me on Heart of the Matter, a podcast dedicated to asking overwhelmingly positive questions as we uncover incredible stories of people you may know. Kendra Lee Pearman, Dr. Kendra Lee Pearman, thank you.

KLP (47:04.374)
Yes.

KLP (47:07.959)
Thank you for having me.

Aderonke (47:22.843)
I must stop recording. Hold on. Stop!

KLP (47:27.671)
Did you want to the last two or you're definitely not?

Aderonke (47:30.409)
No, I'm going to... I... Sha... Are you leaving? Okay, why won't it stop?

KLP (47:49.26)
Yes.