S2 Ep12. Awakening the Leader Within: A Conversation with Freedom Coach Rita Robles

In this episode of the ABWilson's Heart of the Matter podcast, host Aderonke Badamosi Wilson welcomes Rita Robles, a courageous, authentic individual and a liberator. Rita shares her journey and the core values that define her, giving listeners an insightful look into her personal and professional life.

Rita begins by discussing what it means to be courageous, which, for her, involves leading from the heart and standing in one's truth, regardless of the challenges. She reflects on how difficulties arise when societal norms are questioned, whether in the workplace, at home, or in relationships. 

She also explores what it means to be authentic—knowing who you are beyond societal conditioning and choosing not to follow the crowd, but to pursue what truly resonates in your heart. Rita acknowledges the struggles she’s faced in maintaining authenticity within the corporate world. Finally, she shares her perspective on being a liberator, a value deeply influenced by her parents, who escaped dictatorship in Chile. She believes in questioning everything and liberating the mind, body, and subconscious from oppressive norms.

Rita's journey of liberation is ongoing, both for herself and in her mission to help others. She embraces continual learning and expansion as part of her personal growth, and self-coaching plays a significant role in her process. By questioning her reactions and conditioned beliefs, she is constantly evolving and finding purpose in her journey of growth.

In addition to her personal philosophy, Rita shares some interesting facts about herself. She has been a lifelong vegetarian, a passion she has carried since birth. She also studied performing arts, including singing, dancing, and acting, which has influenced her creative journey. Born in the UK to Chilean parents who escaped the dictatorship, Rita has a deep connection to Chile, visiting often to maintain strong family bonds.

Rita reflects on her recent accomplishments, including earning a Master's in Coaching, which fulfilled a long-held dream and gave her the courage to leave the corporate world and start her own business. Her marriage also plays a significant role in her personal growth, as she and her partner hold mirrors up to each other, confronting uncomfortable truths and growing together.

Through her coaching business, Rita focuses on Freedom Leadership — helping individuals free their minds and awaken their inner leaders. She believes leadership extends beyond the workplace, offering tools to break free from conformity and step into authenticity in all aspects of life.

Rita's work makes a significant impact, especially when helping people break free from fight-or-flight modes, empowering them to step into their true selves. She also discusses her key strengths, such as guiding individuals to recognize the origins of their patterns and bringing them back to the present moment when they are consumed by fear of the future. Through active listening and using sensory details to ground clients, she helps them reconnect with their immediate surroundings and focus on the now.

Rita shares a personal experience from a retreat in Costa Rica with Dan Millman, where she learned how to overcome challenges and grow. She also opens up about how becoming a mother challenged her naivety and brought up unhealed emotions. Her eldest son’s non-conformist nature taught her valuable lessons about freedom and liberation. She now creates a safe environment for him to challenge boundaries, and she works on processing her own emotions to avoid passing them on to him. Finally, Rita reflects on the continual learning process that parenting brings.

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Aderonke (00:01.331)

Welcome to another edition of ABWilson's Heart of the Matter, a podcast that uses overwhelmingly positive questions to learn about our guests, where every episode uncovers extraordinary stories of triumph, growth and empowerment. Hi, I'm Aderonke Bademosi Wilson, and my guest on today's show is Rita Robles. Rita is courageous, authentic, Liberator. Rita, thank you and welcome to the show.

Rita (00:35.362)

Thank you so much for having me. It's such a pleasure.

Aderonke (00:39.337)

And Rita, I wanna just talk about your descriptors to get us started. What does courageous look like to you?

Rita (00:49.844)

leading from the heart for me.

going out into the big wide world leading from the heart and standing in your truth regardless of how hard that is.

Aderonke (01:11.825)

And has it been hard? Have you had to, as you've been leading with your heart, have you had challenges and indeed opportunities along the way?

Rita (01:26.798)

I would say definitely yes. I think as human beings we

We have created what we class as the norms and anything outside of that is not, we might not understand it, you know, as well. And so to lead from truth takes courage, where it, it, even if it's in the workplace, at home, in relationships, friendships.

you know, so I've definitely experienced all of those. Definitely.

Aderonke (02:05.183)

And I think this probably leads us into your second descriptor, authentic. Talk to me about that.

Rita (02:10.432)

Yes. So I think that that word I'm hearing it a lot more recently and I think for myself definitely it's

Rita (02:25.044)

Again, we have been conditioned in society to just, not everybody, you we all have our different perspectives, our own experiences that make us who we are. But I think sometimes as humans, we don't really know who we are. We've just gone a long life going to school, going to college, going to university.

And we've almost been shaped in a certain way. And so when we then step out in this big world, we don't know who we are. And that's why often we find it difficult to sit with ourselves. And so to be your authentic self is to really know who you are.

what your, even as simple as what your likes and dislikes are, that don't come from something that you've been, that has been projected onto you. Not following her crowd because it's the, you know, the cool thing to do and actually just do what's in your heart. So I, for me, especially because I have worked in the corporate world for decades.

I often struggled with being authentic because I felt so different to everybody else. And so I did eventually reach a point where I found it really important to be authentic and to be myself because there's nothing wrong with that. And so, yeah, I really always try to lead from a place of authenticity.

Aderonke (04:07.401)

Hmm.

Aderonke (04:16.669)

And tell me about being a liberator. How does that tie in with being courageous and authentic?

Rita (04:25.582)

So I am fortunate to have had two parents who escaped, well, this part isn't fortunate, but their background of escaping the dictatorship in Chile and running, escaping to the UK made them very...

They were freedom vices. You couldn't tell them what to do, how to do it. And my mother was always that way. Very, you can't tell me what to do. You can't make me conform. And I definitely have those traits in me. I didn't realise that I had those traits until I was a lot older. And so for me,

It's so important to question everything and to not just go along with what we've been told. I always question everything. How does it make me feel? Does it make me feel all right? Does it align with my values? But there's so many avenues we could explore in that one word, liberator of the mind, the physical being.

our subconscious. Yeah.

Aderonke (05:57.407)

So you see yourself as, are you liberated or still in the process of being liberated? How does that look? How does that feel?

Rita (06:10.562)

I would say I'm definitely in the process, but long in the process where I can help others also feel that liberation. But I'm still in the process because I'm still human. And so we're forever expanding. So we're forever learning.

And so if I react a certain way to something, I will ask myself very quickly, why am I reacting that way? Is it because of something that I've been conditioned to believe? Is it because I don't like it? Why don't I like it? I always coach myself in my mind.

there's still lots of learning there. I wouldn't say I'm entirely free otherwise I don't feel I'd have a purpose here. I would have probably completed my mission and I'm still learning but I am very much in the process and far in the process and have been for a while.

Aderonke (07:10.473)

Rita, I'd like our listeners to learn a little bit more about you. Please share three interesting things about yourself our listeners may not know and your friends will be surprised to learn.

Rita (07:14.926)

Sure.

Rita (07:24.286)

okay. Well, this will be a surprise for the listeners, but not for my friends. So I am a lifelong vegetarian. I used to say I was born vegetarian. People would laugh, they'd how could you be born? But from day one, my mom gave birth to me, I've been vegetarian. So.

Aderonke (07:47.093)

So you've never eaten any meat or...

Rita (07:50.094)

By accident, but not. And I say accident, but even when I was in school, I would say four years old, they would make us eat meat in school. yeah, I had to try it then, but I've been vegetarian all these years, for decades and decades. So yeah, and my children are vegetarian too. Three, three boys. Yeah.

Aderonke (08:15.305)

How many children do you have?

Rita (08:20.334)

Another interesting fact is I studied performing arts in college. So that was singing, dancing and acting.

I always thought I would be this famous actress and little did I know that that wasn't my path. And then the third we touched upon briefly just now, but I was born to Chilean parents who escaped the dictatorship and I was raised in the UK.

Rita (09:02.486)

I was the only one out of my entire family to be born in the UK. Everybody else was born in Chile and still over there.

Aderonke (09:16.999)

Do you get an opportunity to visit Chile?

Rita (09:20.192)

I do. I do. I do. I go quite I go as often as I can. I do start to go annually. I haven't been able to go as often as possible. The last time I went was in two years ago.

But I do go often and I have gone, my mother took me as a child so when it was safe enough to start going back and then from there I created really strong bonds with my family and it's as if I was always there. Yeah, so they're all really close to my heart.

Aderonke (10:01.493)

Thank you. Rita, can you tell us about a recent accomplishment or success that you're particularly proud of?

Rita (10:11.022)

I would say, oh, I've got two in my mind, but...

Aderonke (10:17.92)

Show them both.

Rita (10:19.2)

Okay, great. So I would say my masters in coaching is something that is a huge milestone for me. I always dreamed, it was actually an exercise that we had done at my old workplace, where we went round with the leadership team. We did like a five minute, almost like a speed dating thing where we just got to know each other really in like three minutes. One of the questions were,

If you weren't doing what you're doing now, what would you have wanted to be? And my answer was coach. I thought it was so far off. And as I started to say it more and more and more, I was like, wow, that is really what I wanted to do. So when I went on to maternity leave and took a year out, I did the ICF coaching course, which was huge for me. So that was a huge milestone.

and gave me the courage to leave my corporate role and start my own business. And then my second success, I would say, is my marriage.

because I feel that when you are in a partnership with somebody romantically, and even within some friendships, family circles, know, but they will always hold a mirror up to you to what needs to be, what needs to be healed in you. And so I have faced, we have both faced that, me and my husband. And as hard as it is to navigate at times,

It's been a huge success so far and I'm really proud of it because I have shown up, he has shown up and we have had to grow. Grow individually, push ourselves to do better and also face ourselves which is really uncomfortable sometimes.

Rita (12:33.976)

So yeah, those are my two recent, those are the two main things that come to my mind. There could be a third, but I'll leave that one in case it can come up later.

Aderonke (12:44.381)

Okay, thank you. And tell me more about your coaching business. What is it called? How can people find you?

Rita (12:51.608)

So at the moment I am on Instagram, but I do have a link there. So I can share that with you. I am Rita Rose. No, sorry, official. Official Rita Rose. So my coaching is around freedom, leadership.

I suppose in coaching, in my coaching practice, my main focus is on freeing the mind, freeing the mind and allowing the individual to step into, to awaken their own leader within.

Because often we hear the word leadership so much and we associate that with the professional life, the corporate world. But actually it can be, it can link with anything. You making decisions in the home, you making decisions in your life. What direction do you want to go in? And breaking free from...

from what we've been conformed to do.

So yes, it's finding inner freedom and inner leadership.

Aderonke (14:28.049)

Inner freedom, inner leadership. Thank you. Thank you.

Aderonke (14:39.189)

Tell me about a time when you made a difference in another's life. What were the circumstances? Paint a picture for me.

Rita (14:49.358)

And if we're going to go for if we I mean following on from what we've just what I've just mentioned in terms of my coaching, I would say.

helping an individual who has been stuck in fight or flight mode for decades, who hasn't been able to, who's been unable to fully step into themselves. And through my coaching with them, over time, they've been able to start really breaking free from survival mode and really start to step into their authentic self. And I'm

I know that's really made a difference in their life and it's very gradual. It's been a lot of work and everyone's case is unique but I think that's the one that comes to mind initially.

is helping this individual really get stuck out, really break free from their fight or flight.

Aderonke (15:58.919)

And so what were the key strengths and qualities you relied on to make a difference for this person?

Rita (16:07.294)

I'm constantly reminding them why they hold the patterns that they have.

bringing them back to the moment every time their mind goes into the future and starts to anticipate everything that could potentially go wrong and bringing them back into the now, into the moment.

And, you know, and it wouldn't, you know, we're all, we're all different. So we all, you know, it has to be somebody who's willing and wants to make a change, but it's always bringing them back to the moment and actually always reminding them there is no fear that, you know, you don't need to fear. We're safe. We are actually all safe. And then also what's the worst that can happen.

Rita (17:06.673)

That's the core of it.

Aderonke (17:12.979)

And how do you bring somebody back into a moment? What does that look like? When you say bring them into the now, tell me how you do that. What does that look like?

Rita (17:23.043)

I suppose over time you build a relationship with this individual so you're able to learn, so I can learn what they're receptive to, know how, I mean for this particular individual I know what works for them. So it might not necessarily work for somebody else but for this particular individual it's learning.

how they dissect information, how they need to receive it. And so when they start to talk about, but what happens if this, this, this, this, this, I will listen. So always active listening, but then bring them back. Okay, but we're not dealing with that right now. And actually in this moment,

What's going on for you right now? Where are you? Are you in your living room? Are you outside? That's now. And I will always remember that technique. When I went to Costa Rica when I was 25, and I went on a retreat. And it was an author called Dan Millman. And he, I had

I had a really, you know, I went in search of answers and I had come out of a really abusive relationship, romantic relationship. And I explained to him I couldn't stop thinking about it or getting flashbacks. And he said to me, every time that happens to you,

just remember that you're in the now. So start focusing on literally what's around you. Look at the grass, listen to the crickets. You know, if you're looking at a tree, that's your now. And so I often do the same, even for myself. If I find my mind wandering, it's like, no, bring myself back to this present moment where I'm sitting on a black chair with a window in front of me. That's now.

Rita (19:33.856)

my mind, because the mind is so powerful, my mind isn't in the future what the thoughts are, but I can bring them back. So with this individual, I know how to manage their thought, you know, I know how to manage to bring them back. And I'm able to say, look, that hasn't happened. It's not going to happen. And it's not happening. And you're in this space and you're safe.

And actually just remind yourself that you're here. You're not over there in the future. And it helps. It really helps.

Aderonke (20:16.405)

Can you recall a situation where you overcame a challenge that led to personal growth? What did you learn from that experience?

Rita (20:26.476)

Yes, having my first son. So I have three boys, eight, six and two and a half. And having my first son was, I had envisioned that it was going to be really easy. And I was so naive. I didn't have any help. I didn't have any family around. And I just thought, I can just carry this baby with me and just go and live my life like normal, you know, and just.

they'll just be with me, they fit into my world. And it was the total opposite. And he became my biggest teacher because he, I didn't realise that becoming a parent would bring up every unhealed emotion in me possible because I never wanted him to experience anything that I had experienced. And in the process,

all the emotions that came up for me.

I never would have realised that were in me had I not have had him. And as the years went on, his character is very, he does not conform to anything. And at first I found that very strange because it's just what we do. We just go to school, we just wear a uniform, we just do certain things. And he was just like, no.

And so through him, I actually started to learn freedom, liberation, more. Everything that had forgotten that was taught, you know, that I had seen from my parents now came back up again. And he just does not conform. And then that taught me to give him the safe environment to not do that either.

Rita (22:27.158)

and actually to start pushing boundaries, to start saying no, to go to challenge, to challenge everything. And so, yeah, that was my biggest challenge that really led to huge growth because without that, I don't think I would be doing what I do today.

Aderonke (22:56.755)

Hmm. Yes. Learning from children.

Rita (23:01.132)

Yeah. And it's, it's, it's an, it's an everyday thing. I'm still learning, but that was my, that was the, the real wake up call, the push, the even, yeah, every single emotion that I would feel the anger or, well, where does that come from? Where does this anger come from? Because it's, he's not doing anything that makes me that angry, but it's still in me. Or where does this frustration come from? Where does this, you know,

Yeah, where does any of those emotions come from? Okay, that's in me. And so again, it's another mirror being held up. What I need to work on, what I need to do. And really learning, I was talking to my husband about this today, really learning to not push, project my expectations onto them, and really try to allow them to be who they are. Who they came here to be.

which is hard because I am very opinionated. I have been in the past and I'm really learning not to be because ultimately we are just our experiences.

Aderonke (24:18.963)

You are listening to A.B. Wilson's Heart of the Matter podcast.

Welcome back to A.B. Wilson's Heart of the Matter podcast. My guest today is Rita Robles. Rita, thank you for sharing what you've shared and I'm especially captivated on what you are learning from your son, your, actually probably all three of your sons as you go along life's path. What self-care practices or strategies

help you to sustain your energy and motivation while navigating your journey.

Rita (24:59.768)

Self care, would say my initial thought is nutrition. Nutrition, mean, in terms of I only eat organic foods, of course, I say that now and then someone's gonna go, look, she's eating something not organic.

I try to stick 90 % of the time to organic foods because I think foods fuel the brain, affect our moods. Fasting, I do at least one or two 36 hour fasts a month.

at the right times because women need to fast at different times of their cycle. So I find that that's for me, it's self care. I used to go to the, used to work out a lot before having children and not so much now, but that's something that really does make me feel grounded. And

unhappy. So yeah, nutrition, fasting, movement, and then having quiet time where I don't answer the phone to anybody and I don't actually talk.

And I learned that recently where I just felt I didn't hear that from anyone. just felt I don't actually feel like talking on the phone today because I'm so low on energy. If I talk, it's just going to use more energy to talk about nothing in particular. And I started to really enjoy that. I don't answer. There'll be certain times in the week where I just don't answer the phone to anyone and just conserve my energy.

Rita (26:55.924)

for really valuable conversations and especially with my children I have to be you know have a lot more energy and I've also somebody told me recently burnout, burnout isn't just what you're doing in your day and you know working, working, working it can be how many times do you pick up your phone, how many times you scroll on the internet, social media

have quick conversations here and there and that really resonated with me and I thought gosh it's so true. So yeah I put my phone down and I just don't go on it for a long while and for me those are my self-care practices.

Aderonke (27:45.465)

You talking about not answering your phone reminded me of something that I tend to have to remind myself years ago, years and years ago when we only had house phones and back in the dark ages. And my phone, I'll be at home and my phone would ring and I'll feel obligated to answer it even at

Rita (28:03.79)

I'm.

Aderonke (28:14.321)

inconvenient times. And I taught myself that just because the phone rings, it's convenient for that person to call me. It's not necessarily convenient for me to answer the phone. And so I've tried to carry that with me that and as we carry our phones and access to us and other people almost around the clock, I have to remind myself that because the phone rings or because

I've received a message. I don't have to look at it immediately. I don't have to answer it. And one practice that I'm trying to do right now is not look at my phone as soon as I wake up and just give myself time to come into the day without being impacted by what's going on in the outside world.

Rita (29:08.246)

Yeah, that's absolutely right. That's what I do as well. I don't look at my phone in the mornings and I try to... It used to happen a lot where I'd get messages and I just used to feel like I needed to answer it straight away. And so now I don't do that. I, of course, if I want to read it, I'll read it quickly. But if I catch myself and then I just say...

No, I'm going to put my phone down.

Aderonke (29:42.131)

Yeah, there's a relief sometimes in saying, I'm not gonna answer, I'm just give myself. And sometimes just the personal people, because I don't know about you, but I'm on so many WhatsApp groups and people are just chiming in and talking and.

Rita (29:48.322)

Yeah.

Rita (30:01.76)

I mute my phone.

Aderonke (30:06.481)

Nobody's looking for an answer immediately. So I don't, really do. I really need to answer this right now. And I give myself permission and I'm big on permissions, give myself permission to say, okay, I'm going to catch up later.

Rita (30:11.746)

Yeah, yeah.

Rita (30:22.658)

That's right. Yeah, and that's the right I think that's a good way to frame it. Give yourself permission to catch up later. And then there's the pressure is taken off having to do it right now. Yeah, absolutely.

Aderonke (30:26.837)

Thank

Aderonke (30:39.859)

How might sharing your experiences of success and growth create a positive ripple effect in your family, community, the world?

Rita (30:55.703)

I would say.

Rita (31:01.44)

embodying freedom as much as I can even while still learning myself and helping people break through limiting beliefs so that they can design a life that feels authentic to them. And the more that we live in alignment, the more we give others permission to do the same. And that's how real change happens.

Rita (31:35.252)

I think I'm a great believer in energy, energy around us.

I mean, it's scientific, it's proven, you know. And when we start focusing on others and how others need to change and just focus on ourselves, it creates an instant shift on those around us because they're in our frequency and our energy field. So we just need to focus on ourselves if we want to create a shift in others. And it happens quite organically when you do it that way.

Aderonke (32:15.123)

Yeah, is always interesting to me and what you feel, but maybe dismiss? Like you get a feeling and like, that can't be right. Or you get a feeling and you lean into it. Yeah, I think there's a lot to be said about energy.

Rita (32:32.311)

Yeah.

Rita (32:37.91)

Yeah, absolutely. And as I think what's happened is, when if you look at a child, a child is so they haven't had all the belief systems thrown on them yet. So they're quite open and free and they just see things for what they are, say things as they want. There's no filter. And as time goes on, we, you know, we, they have a lot more conditioning forced on them.

So now when we get that instinct or that gut feeling we ignore it or we gaslight ourselves and we say no no no I really shouldn't really be thinking that no not possibly. But energy is very telling it's there it exists even if we don't see it so it's very real.

Aderonke (33:29.653)

Rita, what exciting opportunities do you see on the horizon and how do these opportunities align with your passions and aspirations?

Rita (33:40.802)

So I...

I truly believe we can all create our own realities. for years, well, a good four years, I've been wanting to move to Costa Rica. And...

I'm doing it. I'm moving in a few months for a while. I have no idea how anything's going to pan out. And I think if I'm looking at exciting opportunities for the future, I know I have a lot of exciting opportunities in terms of work, you know, expanding my coaching practice, collaborating with others.

you know, I'm currently supporting a business in, you know, Costa Rica and bringing my experience into new spaces. But I try not to plan too much and do, you know, too much ahead because what I do know is that everything will always flow how it's meant to. And so I try not to look too much like, I'm going to have this happen on this day or this day or that day.

I am moving and I know that a whole load of doors are going to open once I do that. So there'll be lots of exciting opportunities. I just don't know what they quite look like yet.

Aderonke (35:17.429)

Why Costa Rica? What attracts you to Costa Rica?

Rita (35:24.15)

The nature, for me it's the nature and the ecosystem that they've managed to sustain there. They care about their world, their planet, their country. And for me having children, it's so important to have them around that.

I have considered other countries and it's not to say that I'm going to be there permanently. It's an inner knowing that I know I have to do it for now, for my children, especially the eldest.

because I feel they deserve a level of freedom that we're not getting here in the UK. And probably others feel the same, you know, globally. You know, we're very much in the era of technology, AI, phones, and I didn't have that growing up. And so I want them to really experience what it feels like to be free, physically, running, greenery.

nice fresh air, good food. And when I went there when I was 25, so a good while ago, it took a really special place in my heart. I just never imagined I would be going back. So there's something there, there's a certain energy there.

in the earth that I feel really calls me back and I'm not quite sure what that is yet but I'm just going with it. But it will be there. I'll be there for a while and then who knows where the wind will blow me. My husband's from Ghana so I do travel there.

Rita (37:26.228)

as well and I have very much the want to go in between Latin America and Africa and I think it's important for my children to see that as well.

Aderonke (37:41.461)

Well, I wish you great success in your move and how you will experience this place that you have chosen, or maybe that has chosen you to experience with your family. And I seriously am looking forward to hearing of your successes. I want to know how it goes and the discoveries that you make.

Rita (38:06.306)

Thank you. Thank you.

Aderonke (38:12.149)

We're nearing the end of our time together and I'm curious about your books. What book recommendation do you have? It can be a book that you've read recently or something that has stayed with you over the years.

Rita (38:27.744)

Yeah, that's really easy for me. Dan Millman, Way of the Peaceful Warrior. Way of the Peaceful Warrior. When I was 17, my dad asked me to read the book and I was, you know, I didn't have any interest in it and I wanted him to get me a mobile phone. So he said to me, I'll get you the mobile phone if you read this book.

So I read the book and then he asked me to tell him about it and I said but you should know because you've read it. He's like no I haven't I just told you to read it. But it was the most that's when I started my journey in terms of my own spirituality and spirituality can look different for everyone but that was my journey in terms of asking more questions, wanting to know more, learning a lot more in terms of myself.

I then went on to read his second, he's got loads of books, but I read it in the order of Way of the Peaceful Warrior and then Journey of the Sacred Warrior.

I then met him in a lecture and then went to his retreat in Costa Rica and that's how everything really started for me. So I then passed the book onto my sister who passed it onto the father of her children who then passed it onto my mother and the book just went around, around, around and we were just all...

in awe of it. So I would definitely say that is, that has always been my, my book to recommend. Yeah, or gift somebody.

Aderonke (40:06.281)

Rita, thank you for your time and for sharing. Is there anything else? Do you have any final thoughts?

Rita (40:18.526)

I would say my final thoughts are freedom, authenticity and alignment are at the core of everything I do and I would love that to be so for others as well.

I would love others to know that they can create that for themselves too. The journey isn't always easy, but it's always worth it.

Aderonke (40:51.017)

Rita, thank you so much for your time today. The appreciation nuggets that I'm taking away are one, that your son is your biggest teacher, your oldest son specifically. And...

Aderonke (41:15.335)

Your comment, the more we live in alignment, the more we give others to do the opportunity to do the same. That's how real change takes place. And then I think your last statement, freedom, authenticity, alignment are at the core of everything.

Rita (41:35.489)

Yes.

Aderonke (41:38.057)

I appreciate you taking the time to join me on A.B. Wilson's Heart of the Matter, a podcast dedicated to asking overwhelmingly positive questions as we uncover incredible stories of people you may know. Rita Robles, thank you so much.

Rita (41:56.632)

Thank you so much for having me. It's been an honor. Thank you.