Who Am I Now? The Midlife Identity Shift

Have you ever looked at your life and thought, "I don't feel like me anymore?"

Maybe everything looks fine on the surface. The career, the family, the home, the responsibilities you've spent years building. But underneath, something feels different. You feel restless, disconnected, flat... or perhaps you're questioning things that once seemed certain.

If that sounds familiar, you're not alone.

In today's episode, we're talking about one of the most common but least discussed experiences of midlife: the shift in identity that happens as our roles change, our priorities evolve, our bodies and hormones change, and we begin asking deeper questions about who we are and what truly matters.

We'll explore why so many men and women feel lost during this stage of life, how it shows up in everyday behaviours, and most importantly, how to navigate it with greater clarity, self-compassion and hope.

Because this isn't about having a midlife crisis.

It's about discovering who you are becoming.

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Transcript

The Midlife Mentors: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Midlife Mentors with me, James. And me, Claire. We've just actually had amazing giggles before recording this podcast episode, so we've calmed down now, we just… it happens sometimes. We just get the giggles. We do get the giggles. James said something funny, which is rare, and I started giggling. Anyway, hello! I love this out of your laugh. Oh, do you?

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The Midlife Mentors: Yeah. Oh, that's very nice. See, I was mean to him, and he was nice to me. I feel bad now. Anyway, we're very excited about this episode, but before we dive in, do you want to update everyone on what we've been, if I can get the words out? Well, yeah, I wanted to update people on where they can catch us live in person, because I've become aware, normally I'm just, like, wading through our inboxes, and I'm like, wow, I actually got a lot of stuff coming up. So, first up, there's the

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The Midlife Mentors: Elevate Show at London's Excel in June. I'm delivering a workshop there, a keynote around andropause and male midlife.

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The Midlife Mentors: Performance and health.

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The Midlife Mentors: We've got some corporate gears going up, which obviously aren't open to the public.

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The Midlife Mentors: We're speaking at Paws Live in October, both of us speaking individually, and your Paws, Confidence in Midlife, we're doing a session together on relationships.

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The Midlife Mentors: there's another menopause show, I think, in the same weekend that we're in talks with. Yeah, and then we're running a… well… And then we're… yes, we're experts on a retreat. Actually, it's before, isn't it? Isn't that in September? It is in September. It's September in the south of France. We'll be joined by Nikki Hamilton Jones, celebrity stylist, Andrew Barton, celebrity hairdresser. It's for women, and it's around, yeah, coming through your menopause positive. Yeah, so we'll link to some of

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The Midlife Mentors: those links, because obviously some of those you can come to, the retreat specifically, so that's in September, south of France, I'll link to that as well in the show notes. So, loads going on, it's really exciting. It is, there's loads and loads of loads of stuff going on. We are busy, which is always nice! It's good to be busy! So…

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The Midlife Mentors: Today, we are talking about… it's kind of in relation to some of the talks that we get asked to do. We get asked to do…

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The Midlife Mentors: quite a lot of talks with law firms, with, divorce lawyers, we also get asked to do lots of talks on midlife relationships, like how… how we're coming at it, specifically, I suppose, really around the menopause and the andropause, and when those two worlds collide, and how we can, at midlife.

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The Midlife Mentors: grow together as a couple, rather than apart. And actually, James found a really

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The Midlife Mentors: interesting article on this. It's something we talk about quite a lot, but he found a really interesting article on this, on Stowe Family Law. Again, we'll link to this in the show notes, so you can read the entire article. But it's…

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The Midlife Mentors: around something called walk-away wife syndrome. Like, one… why some women are initiating divorce. But actually.

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The Midlife Mentors: how… how much of a familiar tale this is. After years of feeling invisible and unheard in their marriage.

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The Midlife Mentors: women are kind of reaching the end of the line, and calmly deciding to walk away. And the reason for Stowe Law, actually writing an article on their website, so Stowe Law, big, big, big law firm, was apparently this is becoming a really searched-for term, it's a search term, walk-away wife syndrome.

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The Midlife Mentors: So it's becoming a bit of a bit of a thing. Of course, we do know that the research backs this up.

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The Midlife Mentors: Divorces have increased exponentially since, 1990. They have increased over 50% from 1990 to 2010. They continue to rise, midlife divorces continue to rise, but the interesting thing is, the data's now saying that

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The Midlife Mentors: It depends on the study, but somewhere between 60% to 75% of divorces are initiated by the female partner. And when they've had a university education, that can be even higher, so it's quite interesting there. And I think in midlife, those stats are certainly skewed a little bit higher than that.

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The Midlife Mentors: And I… we are going to, I suppose, talk a little bit about our own personal experiences here, because obviously you… you guys, if you've been listening for a while, you know… you all know that

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The Midlife Mentors: James and I are both divorced, and I know James has shared some of his story around that before, but…

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The Midlife Mentors: You know, it is… it is something that we also see in the work that we do, with one-to-one coaching, particularly, because it's very private.

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The Midlife Mentors: It's a safe space to explore these things. So I have that with women, and James definitely has that with men, so we kind of see it from very different sides, even people that have come on our retreat, or people that speak to us in a corporate setting. So we see it from both sides, and so that's why we just kind of wanted to share this today.

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The Midlife Mentors: Have you got… not got your notes up, babe?

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The Midlife Mentors: Where are your notes?

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The Midlife Mentors: What notes?

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The Midlife Mentors: Wondered whether you were going to join me in the conversation. I wasn't… I didn't want to interrupt you.

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The Midlife Mentors: Where do you want to pick up from?

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The Midlife Mentors: I do want to pick up the phone.

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The Midlife Mentors: So, what are the reasons that we're seeing this phenomenon occur, that we're getting this now, this search term, walk away wife, walk-away wife syndrome? What's actually going on here under the covers? Obviously, we've got… we've got our own personal experience, as Claire was saying. We've both been through divorces.

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The Midlife Mentors: I guess mine was in midlife, because I was in my early 40s, yours is just before. So we've got personal experience of this, but yeah, there are common themes, it seems to come in. Of course, everyone is individual, every situation is different, and of course, it feels highly personal when it's happened to you, but…

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The Midlife Mentors: I think why we're seeing such a big rise in numbers is the societal and cultural shift in terms of women having more financial power now. You know, we don't have to go back that far, less than 100 years, you know, a woman was dependent on her husband for her income.

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The Midlife Mentors: If they're divorced, then often she could be left destitute or struggling. Whereas now, you know, women… we're not going to get into the whole whether it's equal or not, there's still work to be done, but women have earning power, and they can financially afford to walk away. They've got financial freedom to walk away, to make that choice to do it. So that's one thing. I think, a trap that was perhaps

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The Midlife Mentors: Holding people in place has gone, has disappeared.

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The Midlife Mentors: I think the other thing is, you know, we're living longer, longer lives, so we have this lifespan to think of, you know,

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The Midlife Mentors: maybe we've been with someone for 20 years, 30 years, and maybe we think, actually, well, that's enough now. A lot of the thing is, people start thinking about their lifespan.

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The Midlife Mentors: Another big trigger for midlife divorces is, of course, empty nest syndrome. There can be a lot of focus on raising children, and despite gender roles, you know, that does fall mainly to females still. So when the kids leave, suddenly they're re-evaluating their sense of identity. Okay, I'm not in that full-on mother role anymore, so who am I, and what do I want to do coming out the other side, and what does that mean for the relationship, and where it goes?

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The Midlife Mentors: So that's… that's a big adaptation for people to face. Yeah, and I would say what I see, and…

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The Midlife Mentors: And have experience, actually, myself, is…

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The Midlife Mentors: the reason this kind of walk-away wife, and it is that… that kind of very quietly, not some big hoo-ha, but kind of, yeah, just walking away, making the decision, and… and moving on, and kind of that… that I'm choosing myself. After years, this is what is reported.

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The Midlife Mentors: to me, on that personal level, when I coach women, what we read about, what we're seeing, is that

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The Midlife Mentors: women have kind of voiced that sense of, I'm unhappy in this relationship.

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The Midlife Mentors: And they voiced it over and over and over again.

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The Midlife Mentors: And then, after years of just feeling unseen and unheard, and kind of invisible, and that their emotions and their concerns aren't being…

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The Midlife Mentors: seen, or heard, or reacted to, or taken on board, that's when there's this kind of, like, silent walk away. That doesn't feel very dramatic, but really might be a huge shock to the guy. Because what happens is.

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The Midlife Mentors: Is that a woman can…

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The Midlife Mentors: communicate, but then, after a while, stops communicating. They'll start communicating to their friends, maybe, or they'll just… it looks like everything is okay to the guy, actually, because the… the frustrations, the… the anger, the, I'm not happy, might stop.

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The Midlife Mentors: And the guy often seems to think that that

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The Midlife Mentors: is a cue, oh, everything's okay now, things are quietening down, like, she's happier, because she's not voicing, she's not doing what she did before, so something's changed. And a lot of the time, that might seem like something has changed for the better, that the problem has gone away, but actually what's happened is the woman has withdrawn.

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The Midlife Mentors: And she's withdrawn emotionally.

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The Midlife Mentors: And she's harbouring all that stuff internally, and actually, the bridge is just getting wider and wider and wider between you two, and you might not have noticed that.

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The Midlife Mentors: Most guys, in our experience, don't necessarily notice that, but the woman's still feeling exactly the same, it's just becoming even more resentful, and… so that's why it's kind of this walk-away wife syndrome.

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The Midlife Mentors: comes as a shock to so many guys. Yeah, I look at that. I mean, my experience, and this is supported by the data and research, actually, like.

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The Midlife Mentors: Men tend to have

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The Midlife Mentors: I can't say it politely… lower level emotional skills than women, right? Because we haven't been trained, we haven't had the framework, delivered to us of how to express our emotions, how to bridge emotional gulfs, and what I see a lot is, you know, men will kind of know their relationship, it's not great.

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The Midlife Mentors: But it's not bad.

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The Midlife Mentors: So I'll just keep my head down and say nothing, because I don't know, really, how to reach out and try and make it better, and also I don't want to risk making it worse. So men will tend to bury their heads in the sand and think, oh, it's okay, whereas women are looking for that emotional depth and connection, and they won't tolerate okay, they actually want good or great, and this is where I think a big disconnect happens. That's so beautifully

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The Midlife Mentors: And well put. Much better than I was putting it, actually. That was… I think that was a really helpful explanation. It's because I'm a great communicator for men.

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The Midlife Mentors: Actually, one of the things we've got here was just a note to say, this is how it actually shows up, this is how it might sound in your marriage. The guy, you know, a guy goes, I didn't know it was that bad, and the wife is like, I've been telling you this for 10 years.

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The Midlife Mentors: And so, we hear that so, so much, and that's kind of that withdrawal, that…

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The Midlife Mentors: I just got exhausted from telling you or trying to communicate this in various different ways, and you just… you just weren't listening.

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The Midlife Mentors: So, even though all marriages, all relationships are kind of complex and unique.

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The Midlife Mentors: We all want something different from our partners, and this is where this whole communication breakdown piece comes in. When we stop communicating.

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The Midlife Mentors: we stop connecting, and I think that's why at this midlife point, when we're so pressured, we've got so much strain on our lives, then we've got hormonal shifts, we've got shifting identity roles, you know, do the kids need us so much anymore? What's happening at work? Am I nearing retirement? What does that even mean for me?

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The Midlife Mentors: shifting friendship groups, all these sorts of things. You might even be losing… leaving your location, or thinking about moving, or downsizing. All these things are going on, and if you're not communicating with your partner as you're going through these pressures, which is hard, because we're time-pressured, time poor, if you're not communicating on a frequent basis, then you're not going to be connecting, you're not going to be going in the same direction, you're just going to be going apart, you're going to be

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The Midlife Mentors: living your own internal lives, your own internal dialogue, and not coming together. So, I think some of the things that we see most is,

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The Midlife Mentors: is that communication problem, those recurring issues, and unresolved conflicts that go unspoken. Yeah, I do want to speak to the impact of the hormonal fluctuations, like, you know, if you've listened to us before, we said, like.

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The Midlife Mentors: at midlife, it can be like your second teenager years, you know, hormones are fluctuating, they're flying all over the place. So, for women, you know, going through perimenopause and menopause, it can be very confusing for them, the symptoms can be quite pronounced, there's that whole, you know.

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The Midlife Mentors: because of the physiological changes it throws up, there's a whole thing around sense of identity. Of course, I overlay that as the stuff we've discussed about, you know, changing roles and identity.

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The Midlife Mentors: But for men as well, you know, with testosterone declining, they can start to notice physical changes, that can start to make them feel less confident, they might become more withdrawn, and men, once again, it's like, like, I don't know how to…

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The Midlife Mentors: really vocalize this effectively, so I'm gonna kind of shut down a bit and withdraw from my friends, from the relationship, just to try and keep myself safe in inverted commas while I figure it out. And then, of course.

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The Midlife Mentors: if the woman asks for a separation, that can come as a massive shock. So, I don't want to downplay, like, I think it's really important for couples to understand the impact that hormones can have at midlife, you know, the lowering… fluctuation and lowering levels of estrogen, the lowering levels of testosterone.

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The Midlife Mentors: In both partners, so we've got this hormonal cocktail going on, we've got these psychological pressures.

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The Midlife Mentors: And I think a big thing that a lot of couples

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The Midlife Mentors: Probably fail to do is think about

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The Midlife Mentors: their purpose or their mission as a unit, because… here's how it goes, right? You meet the person, and it's that whole romance phase, first of all, and it's just like, we just love being with each other, and it's lovely, and then probably you have kids, and then the focus shifts to raising the kids, and maybe the roles become more

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The Midlife Mentors: quite different and quite pronounced. But when there's that empty nesting, when the children have gone, a lot have shifted over that. You're talking, like, an 18, 20-year-old time span, a lot has shifted.

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The Midlife Mentors: for both the mother and the father. Who are you now without the kids in the mix? It's a recalibration. And if you think about it from a purpose or mission perspective, it's like, find my partner, make sure they're the right one, have kids with them, raise the kids. Oh, the kids have gone.

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The Midlife Mentors: what now? So…

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The Midlife Mentors: I think that's… that's a big overlay as well. People really like, it's kind of like sunny, sunny…

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The Midlife Mentors: for them individually, what's next, but as a unit, as a team, what do we want next? What are we going to achieve? What are our goals together? And I think that's a really important part of the communication mix as well. And I also think that's what makes people feel incompatible. It's because it's not necessarily that you are incompatible, you've just stopped being curious and growing together.

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The Midlife Mentors: So…

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The Midlife Mentors: you might be incompatible with the person that you're seeing, or expecting or projecting onto your view of the world, if that makes sense. We make so many presumptions about what that person is feeling and thinking and wanting based on our past

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The Midlife Mentors: understanding of them, of course. But like James just said, we're changing so, so much at this time of our life.

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The Midlife Mentors: and so many things are in flux, and we're questioning things, and we're… we're, yeah, shifting that self-identity, that actually, you might not be incompatible if we started communicating and connecting and being curious. Actually, you might find that

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The Midlife Mentors: And rediscover that version of that person, like, those things that you thought were lost.

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The Midlife Mentors: They might not be lost, we just haven't bothered to find them again.

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The Midlife Mentors: And they're a renewed, different version of the thing that you love. So those qualities that you loved might still be there, but life has got in the way, and we just stopped caring and stopped being, yeah, curious and connecting. So, I think that's really important to say as well. It might be… listen, it might be that you're not compatible anymore, but just don't presume, because the way your marriage is right now, that that is fact, and that is reality. It might actually not be.

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The Midlife Mentors: One of the things also that we hear a lot about this is that emotional…

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The Midlife Mentors: labour that a woman seems to… like, us women, we can hold, and we do hold, a lot of emotional space for things.

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The Midlife Mentors: We are the more nurturing mother… this is how we're made. The nurturing, motherly, empathetic, compassionate. We have these things, most of us, in bucket loads, right? It's just our natural way of being, it's the feminine energy.

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The Midlife Mentors: And that emotional labour…

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The Midlife Mentors: Can create, if we're holding everything together in that way for so many people around us, and ourselves.

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The Midlife Mentors: it can feel like, well, where am I? Where are the priorities that… well, who's looking after my emotions? Like, I'm not looking… I'm not even looking after my own emotions here, and what I want, and how I see myself in the world for this next second half of my life. So we hold a lot of this

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The Midlife Mentors: Staff that might need healing, might need releasing, might need surrendering, and there's all that going on as well at midlife.

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The Midlife Mentors: So it's not just the labour as in washing, shopping, childcare, all of this stuff.

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The Midlife Mentors: But it's these things that us women tend to do, which is remembering everything, maintaining social networks, and organising family life, and carrying those invincible responsibilities, managing people's emotions, and trying to manage our own, even understanding what our own emotions are.

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The Midlife Mentors: Yeah, I'd agree with that. I mean.

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The Midlife Mentors: I think it's recognizing each other's roles in a relationship as well, like, over time, we can really take each other for granted. So, you know, gender roles are more fluid, but if you look at the typical dynamic, where the woman tends to be the caregiver to the children, and maybe has to take a career break, or goes part-time.

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The Midlife Mentors: And maybe the man is just kind of, like, then takes that for granted, takes those things for granted, and that… the woman can feel that he takes it for granted, so there's resentment. On the same time of, you know, you can see it the other way, where the man's like, well, I'm… I'm working, like, 16-hour days, 5 days a week, you know, to keep… keep everything ticking over, bringing the money in.

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The Midlife Mentors: and you keep asking more from me, I'm not able to give it. So I think it's just having those conversations, understanding where you're each coming from, and appreciating

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The Midlife Mentors: what everyone's bringing to the team. Yeah, exactly, and this whole assumption, we assume so many things without asking, like, what's going on for you? We don't even… how many times have you asked? Like, what's really going on for you? And sometimes, you know.

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The Midlife Mentors: I know some women are listening to this, and I've asked that. I've asked that a million times, what's going on for you. I get it. I get it. And this is not to say that you're not trying, and you haven't tried. We're not saying that at all. We're just trying to bring some light to this situation about what might be going on for the man and the woman, but I think…

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The Midlife Mentors: For many women, just wrapping that point up, is it's… they're not just exhausted from doing too much, like, physically too much, they're just…

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The Midlife Mentors: exhausted from being responsible and holding too much on their own.

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The Midlife Mentors: And so it's not just one major thing, it's a thousand different small things building up over time. But I think that… I think there can be a disconnect there, because, like, the man is not seeing what the woman's dealing with on a day-to-day basis, and vice versa. So I think also the man can feel resentful, like, you're not understanding, like, I hate my job, and I'm going in every day, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think…

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The Midlife Mentors: Just talking about financial incompatibility as well.

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The Midlife Mentors: like James has said, us women are in a… mainly in a more positive position than we were, kind of, like, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, where we do have

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The Midlife Mentors: independence financially, more… more opportunity to be financially independent. Again, this doesn't make it easy, but you'll often find, at midlife, that financial

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The Midlife Mentors: incongruence, so a mismatched understanding of how financiers should be used, and spent, and looked after, that often comes to the fore here as well. Well, so that tends to happen, where there's a shift in roles and a shift in earning power.

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The Midlife Mentors: So you'll see that in situations where

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The Midlife Mentors: One… one partner's kind of been the main… the main breadwinner, but then it's switched to the other, and then sometimes that can cause

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The Midlife Mentors: disagreements within them. And just talking about that, actually, even the role, we see this a lot.

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The Midlife Mentors: you know, one of you might retire, and again, that's an identity shift. It's like, I'm trying to find where I am, my place in the world. Like, am I still… do I still matter? Do I still have meaning? Now I might be retired, or, you know, getting to the end of my career. Who am I? What does that mean? And again, sometimes that can be misdirected, or you might just think.

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The Midlife Mentors: This is a real opportunity for me to shift and change and transform everything and throw it up in the air, including my relationship.

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The Midlife Mentors: That happens… that happens a lot. I want to escape this. You know, like, now I'm maybe retired, you might have the man going, what meaning do I have? What purpose do I have? You know, I haven't got that financial stability, I'm not the…

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The Midlife Mentors: breadwinner anymore. A woman might see that as, yay, I'm free! You know, my children have flown the nest, I no longer have a job, and I've got a retirement pot for myself. I now want to escape, I want to do all these major things, I… there's a…

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The Midlife Mentors: a real shift of doing some dramatic stuff in your life, and one of those things might be leaving your relationship. That freedom, that sense of wanting freedom. Yeah, I wanted to talk to that point, actually, Claire, to kind of bring it to a close, like, because I know people listening may be thinking that they do want to walk from their relationship, maybe a wife, maybe a husband.

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The Midlife Mentors: Because…

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The Midlife Mentors: listen, if you're genuinely in a bad relationship, you know, where there's, you know, abuse, or you're just literally not getting on at all, then obviously it makes sense, but I've seen a lot of examples

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The Midlife Mentors: where one partner has decided to leave, because it was just this… this stuff we're talking about bubbling in. They haven't had the open, honest conversations.

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The Midlife Mentors: But then down the line, they've massively regretted it. They're like… Haven't had the conversation, it's like, massively regretting not having… Yeah.

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The Midlife Mentors: 2 years, three years later, they're like, I should never… I actually was onto a good thing, I never should have done that. I'm not sure what was going on for me at that point in time.

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The Midlife Mentors: So, listen, if your relationship is genuinely bad, then obviously, yes. If you're just in this state of now, where you're not sure, I check in with yourself, like, are your hormones driving your decisions?

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The Midlife Mentors: Is there something you're lacking in your life? Sense of fulfillment?

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The Midlife Mentors: disappointment in some area that might be driving your decisions. Have you really talked it through with your partner? And listen, here's the other thing, like, the grass is always greener. We always imagine, like, well, hey! But, you know, let me tell you, I've been out there in the dating world in my 40s, and the grass isn't always greener.

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The Midlife Mentors: Yeah, and again, I just… I really want to speak to the fact that everyone's situation is different. So some of what we've said will resonate, some of it won't, some of it might feel like, hang on a minute, like, I am trying my best. Like, we are not gaslighting any of you, and we are not saying that you have to stay, or you have to really look… if, like James said, like, if, like James has said.

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The Midlife Mentors: There might even be some things you've been overlooking for all these years. It could be unhealthy behaviour in the other person, could be addictive…

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The Midlife Mentors: you know, some certain addictions that you've thought, wow, there's a problem there, and I've overlooked that for a while, and now it's my… it's my time, it's my priority to do this.

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The Midlife Mentors: And so, in that sense, I would say, absolutely, get some support, make sure you're doing it the right way, make sure it feels good… I suppose in your integrity, is what I would say. Make sure you're doing it in a way, that…

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The Midlife Mentors: you know will support your children, support you in the future, support that other person if it's amicable, and I really hope if we are choosing to leave our marriages, our relationships, I really do hope and pray that we… that for you, you are able to do it in an amicable

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The Midlife Mentors: way. Get support around that. There are many, many great resources out there, great websites. Also, I would say, just on that point, before you might be thinking of leaving a relationship, we are massive supporters of therapy.

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The Midlife Mentors: So, marriage counselling, we've had it ourselves. We started it a few years ago, it was unbelievable for us. And we still go once a month just to check in with our therapist, who is wonderful and amazing, it's so helpful.

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The Midlife Mentors: You know, even those moments where you're like, oh, I've got it so covered, I don't know what I'm gonna say in this month's session, and something comes out that's really helpful, that makes you understand and communicate with each other better.

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The Midlife Mentors: So… so we're just saying that… You know,

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The Midlife Mentors: there are lots of different ways to look at this. We're gonna link to the article, which is super, super helpful, in the show notes, aren't we? Again, it was Stowe Family Law.

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The Midlife Mentors: But yeah, just to, I suppose, shine a spotlight on the different ways, from that male-female perspective, that we could look at this new search term that's getting a lot of airtime, which is walkaway wife. Yeah, I just want to say, listen, midlife is a time of transition.

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The Midlife Mentors: And transitions are uncomfortable. And they're uncomfortable individually, which means we can often get caught up in our own experience.

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The Midlife Mentors: What I'd urge you to do is, like, in a relationship, both of you are transforming. So be curious and compassionate what the other person is going through, have the discussions, figure it out together, what's the best course forward?

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The Midlife Mentors: is it together? Is it apart? But have the discussions. You will thank your future self. Your future self will thank you for at least having the discussions and getting it out in the open, rather than make a decision based on not enough data. Yeah, and one of the things I would say is don't get into the comparison game.

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The Midlife Mentors: don't necessarily think, just because everyone else's marriages or relationships look… Look. Look amazing, or that person on social media that you follow, and you're like, oh, I wish my marriage was just like that.

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The Midlife Mentors: Be careful with that.

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The Midlife Mentors: We're in a world where we can see into each other's lives more than ever before, but you're not seeing the full picture at all. And you don't even know what they've done to have to get there. Like, we're really super vulnerable, always will be, always really open about what we've done to get to where we're at.

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The Midlife Mentors: But yeah, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and it's a really dangerous game to compare yourself, even yourself, but your relationship as well with anyone else's that you see. Yeah.

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The Midlife Mentors: Listen, I hope you found that.

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The Midlife Mentors: Interesting, perhaps helpful, insightful.

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The Midlife Mentors: It's almost as if someone should write a book about, you know, why midlife relationships can be so complicated, what happens when the menopause and the andropause collide. Plus, we're dealing with all the other psychological stuff, don't you think, Clare? I do. Wow. Watch this space.

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The Midlife Mentors: That's all I'm gonna say on that for now. As always, follow us on social, send comments there, drop, ideas, thoughts, responses to team at themidlifementals.com, and do share this to anyone you think would benefit from hearing it. Sending lots of love!

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The Midlife Mentors: I still… Oh.

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The Midlife Mentors: Stop. Now shall I do a quick.