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130. Living in Mexico: Your Questions Answered About Our Upcoming Move!

• Jessica Cuevas • Season 5 • Episode 130

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In this first episode of the "Living in Mexico" series, I'm diving deep into our family's big move to Mexico! After posting about our decision on social media, you all flooded my DMs with the most thoughtful questions, and I'm answering them all. From the practical logistics of dual citizenship to finding schools for the kids, I'm sharing everything about this crazy adventure we're embarking on as a family of four.

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What You'll Hear:

  • How we're navigating dual citizenship for our family
  • The real scoop on Mexican school systems - from guarderías to Montessori schools
  • Cost of living comparisons that will blow your mind
  • How I'm planning to build a community in Mexico
  • The emotional journey of reclaiming our roots and going back to the motherland

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I know that there's also a wave of US parents that are bringing their families to Mexico and deciding to take this leap of officially moving to Mexico. And I am Y'all like the power of social media definitely has its cons, but one of the biggest benefits is that you can connect to anyone around the world. And there was a specific mama who reached out to me and she was like, oh my gosh. Just so you know, I've been following you for such a long time. And when you announced that you were moving to Mexico, I was very excited for you, but then when you announced that you're moving to Leon, I am even excited because I am from Leon too. My husband and I just moved to Leon as well. Like y'all, there's a lot of beauty within that. there's so many people that are inspired with our decision to moving to Mexico, and I'm so glad that we are not keeping it just to ourselves or to our close ones. I know that there is a larger community of like people who either are doing the shift with us or who are thinking about it, but perhaps they're afraid and this can kind of like lift them to make this change and or it's just people who are inspired and they wanna know your story. And so for us, I am so excited to share with you all like what we're going to embark on Welcome back to another episode of the Viva la Mami podcast. I'm your host, Jessica Cuevas, and today we're diving into something completely different, but so exciting. As you may know, my family and I are making the big move to Mexico, and oh my goodness, you all have been flooding my dms with the most thoughtful questions as well as positive thoughts and vibes, uh, that you've all been sending us our way. And so I posted a couple weeks ago asking what you wanted to know about our move. And within hours I had dozens of messages. Some of you are thinking about making a similar move, others are just curious about the crazy adventure we're going to embark on. And honestly, your questions have helped me think through things I hadn't even considered. So today I'm answering your real questions, the practical ones, the emotional ones, and even the ones that made me laugh out loud. On this podcast and on YouTube, in case you are someone who prefers video, we're having our new"Living in Mexico" series where I'll be sharing our entire journey, the good, the challenging, and everything in between. And so if you haven't yet listened to our first episode, which was also a, an Instagram live about a couple weeks ago. With my husband, Alex, we told you all that we are going to share our adventure with you, and it's also going to be somewhat of a lifestyle, educational, sort of series as part of Viva la Mami because I am sharing this through the lens of. What it's like to be a mom raising two little toddlers in Mexico and coming from that perspective as a Latina as well, and sort of reclaiming our roots and going back to the motherland. And so there's a lot that I'm very excited to share with you all, and I really hope that you stick with us, whether if it's on the podcast, but also on YouTube, because on YouTube we will be sharing more content specific to our life in Mexico. And of course on Instagram, you'll just get a little glimpse of everything in between. And so let's start with the logistics because I know that I've received so many questions about this, but the first question that I've been asked a lot is, are the documents you need to file or have to live there versus visiting? And so. We are coming to Mexico as citizens of Mexico, and so myself as well as my two kids are already dual citizens. So we worked on this process, I would say over two months ago. So back in March we went to Mexico and we did all of the necessary paperwork. We went through the and in Guanajuato, where my family is from, and we kind of worked on that process and. It was a lot easier than making an appointment through EL here in the United States, uh, at the consulate. And the reason why is because the consulate has very limited. Appointments or CITAs available for those who wanna register, uh, through, uh, the Mexican government. And so if you wanna expedite it, and if you want a more seamless process, there's another way of getting your dual citizenship and that's in Mexico. At the time of this recording, Alex is working on his dual citizenship. So we hope that he gets to enter Mexico as a citizen, but if not. He would be going in as a tourist. For anyone who wants to go to Mexico for 180 days or less, they don't necessarily need a visa. And so Alex would be going in with his US passport. And he would essentially have to come back to the United States within 180 days, which is fine because we are planning to come back to Chicago in October for a wedding. And so. The timing of this would work out well if in case he would have to come back by a certain time. And so we are not worried about that. But you know, I think for just like having that legitimacy, I guess, of us going to Mexico as Mexican citizens. Our hope is that he also acquires this and the reason why he's been having a hard time is because unfortunately, his birth certificate was incorrect. Myra's name wasn't typed. Uh, correctly. And so he had to make a bunch of changes in his birth certificate and we're still waiting on that, which is wild. So we're still waiting from the Cook County Clerk's office to. Make the changes, and then after that he's gonna have to make a, as of right now, they do have limited spots. So at least for the consulate in Chicago, we know that they open their spots every Monday at 9:00 AM So literally, we're on our phones every Monday at like around 9:00 AM and 10:00 AM where, you know, we're just like constantly checking what's available, but. So hopefully, like I said, he gets to have all of his documentation in place, but otherwise, you know, we have that privilege of being dual citizens. And so either way he, we'll be coming into Mexico with some kind of documentation. As far as this process, I don't think it was necessarily overwhelming, but I would say that we have to, we had to have all of our ducks in order, if you will. So we had to have all of our documentation in, so don't let this overwhelm you. Don't let this intimidate you. If you really wanna get your dual citizenship, then uh, it is possible. You just have to make sure that you're getting all your ducks in a row. If you have any curiosity or if you wanna learn more about how to obtain dual citizenship, I will be having a. Virtual session as part of the Viva AMI Collective, and I am collaborating with Samantha Alvarez from Hood Girls Travel Too, and she will be hosting a free virtual workshop on how to obtain your dual citizenship, specifically in Mexico. And so if you are of Mexican heritage, if either of your parents are from Mexico, then. Please sign up. I will add the link in the show notes. The virtual workshop will be on Tuesday, June 24th at 7:00 PM central time. So please register because I think Samantha has a lot to offer. She is an expert in the travel business she's also helped people get their dual citizenship. So if you are curious about that, please sign up and the link is in the description. And another question was. Are you getting a storage place? And so as part of the logistics, uh, we are, and so we actually already have a storage space, and so if you haven't heard our full story, uh, we knew that right now, uh, at the current place where we are living at, which we're about to move soon at the time of this recording, obviously, but, uh, we bought a three. Flat multifamily, investment property. And so essentially. We decided to move in into one of the units so that way we didn't get to like, pay for, uh, the cost of living. And so we decided to house hack. And I think that in its own way has allowed us to think creatively and in doing this big move to Mexico. And so at the time when we were downsizing from a four bedroom house in the suburbs. Down to like a one bedroom apartment in Chicago, we decided to live in the tiniest space. That way. Again, we don't have to pay for anything, on the cost of living. So what we did was we rented a storage unit and we knew that where we are currently at was going to be temporary. We didn't know where we would go, essentially. And so now that we have a better idea as far as with where we're living, we are still keeping the storage unit just so that we can keep the things that. Our practical, like the things that we know that we're essentially going to use like in five or 10 years and keep some of our most precious like heirlooms and belongings. Not that we come from money, but you know, there is a piano that I have, there is an accordion that I have. I mean, I don't think I'm gonna be able to move, take that to Mexico, but once we decide to come back. And that's if we decide to come back, then we have those belongings. If we then decide to not come back, then obviously the plan is gonna change. But at least for right now, we do have a storage place. So that way we don't get to take everything with us to Mexico, but. What will belong in the storage place are going to be things that, were more sentimentally attached to with it. And then we'll figure out from there. So as far as with like what we're taking with us to Mexico, I mean, it's essentially our clothes and that's not a lot of clothes because I definitely got rid of my winter coat. Because coming from Chicago, winter is brutal. And I donated my winter coat. I donated my winter boots because I'm like, I'm done. And either way, they were kind of old. So I'm like, if whenever we come back, if we decide to come back to Chicago, then at least, you know, we can always buy new things. But, yeah, we're just taking with us our equipment. A a couple of toys for the boys, and I think that's it. Like we're not taking much, and a lot of people have this perception that in Mexico there's nothing like I, I am honestly in shock when I visited Leon, which is where we are moving, Leon is essentially like a mini Chicago. Like there is a lot to do, a lot to eat, there's a lot to shop for and in all different types of. Budgets. And so if you wanna shop a little less, then you can go to you know, like the mecado s if you wanna shop a little bit more bougie. There's, El Palacio Dero, which is the newest store in Leone, which is a very bougie store. Let me tell y'all like, it's more than. I don't know, Bloomingdale's and all of those stores, like it's pretty bougie, So we are very lucky to be that we are moving to a, populous city, a city that is very well resourced, and they have two Costcos there. So I'm like, as long as there's a Costco, I'm good to go. And I kid you. Now the Costco is just the same in the United States. Like they have the, our favorite Kirkland Peanut butter there. They have all of the things that we essentially use, like they have the little mozzarella balls that the kids like for snacks. And so there's nothing that I feel like we need to take with us, uh, from the United States besides like. What we currently have, and we're not gonna buy any more things because Yeah. And if we, I guess once we situate ourselves there and once we have a better idea as far as with what we need and what is not there, then we can always come back to the United States and, you know, bring it with us. So, yeah, those are your logistical questions. Okay. So now let's talk about the kids because that affects the whole family as we know. And one of the questions, uh, that you asked was, did you enroll your kids in school? And so, yes, we did. I was contemplating whether to homeschool or not, but I am honestly not that the type of parent that. Would wanna homeschool their kids like I definitely have been craving for. Alone time. I have been craving for having boundaries and just having my own time, and not necessarily for luxuries, you know, specific things, but for me to really focus on my business, for me to actually do like side work as well. And unfortunately, you know. In the United States, if you are a stay at home mom, like you don't have a lot of freedom because you know, you can obviously get help if you do get the help. But with my situation, uh, we never had that opportunity. And so when we decided to move to Mexico, that was definitely like the number one reason that really intrigued us because in Mexico, like y'all, the cost of childcare. Is significantly less like, and we all know that, that the US just sucks with in, in terms of the costs of, childcare and so we knew that we definitely wanted to take the kids to a place where they can stick around for a couple hours in a given day. In Mexico, there's a lot of options. There's gu, which is basically like daycare centers and there's, or schools, and within the schools, uh, depending on each school, right? There's private public, there's international schools, there's a ton of British schools, which I was very. Impressed, but also, uh, surprised as well. And, and there's bilingual schools as well. In Leon, we decided to go with a private school that offers schooling for toddlers all the way into like, I don't know, it goes up to like Bato, which is kind of like a, like high school, I believe. I'm still trying to learn the education system in Mexico, so please correct me if I'm. Wrong with this, but essentially the goal was to have both of the kids in the same school and not all schools, offer maternal. So maternal or, Pre preschool your toddler can enroll there and they have the same kind of traditional setting as kind of like a daycare, but it's technically in a school setting. It's in a school. And they have the same hours as all of the kids. So I think it's very communing for families who have older children to also enroll their little ones if they are of age, you know, to be enrolled in that school. it was really good that we knew that difference between a Guria and, uh, a specifically for Mateo because a guria is just like a way for kids to just like be watched that like it's just, you know, a way for kids to be taken care of while the parents are working. In al it, there is a specific curriculum. It, it helps'em with social emotional learning, it's a very, Structured type of environment, whereas a guerilla is more like, we're just watching your kids and we'll let them play, do whatever they want. So I'm glad that there were those options because we knew that we wanted to create, you know, a little bit more structure for Mateo, especially as you know, he is developing and growing. We want him to be ready for actual preschool whenever, you know, I think when he turns three. So that'll be next year, which is wild. So I have a cousin who is lives in Mexico and I also have a friend who we've been friends for, I don't know, 12, 13 years. And we've kept in touch. And when we knew that we were. Moving to Leon, I was like, okay, I need to reach out to these two jere and figure out what are the best options for for the kids. And so they shared me a list of all these different schools. And when we went to Mexico for Diego Spring break, we were there for about 10 days. We. Visited a bunch of schools and they all range from bilingual schools, which I would say are the most, uh, expensive ones. We didn't go to an international school just because we didn't wanna adhere to like a British curriculum. I think, I think there's only one American international school, but I already knew that if we're gonna expose them to the cultural experience to, to be in Mexico, like I'm not going to bring. American, the American school system with us. So we knew that we essentially wanted them to be a part of this immersive like experience for them to feel like, oh my gosh, this is, this is the schooling that is done in Mexico. And so we decided to go with the private, uh, route public. The reason why we didn't is because spots always fill up fast and. Uh, you know, I also wanna give priority to the citizens that are actually from there, right? And so. We knew that, uh, private was the way to go, and we toured a couple schools that were similar to the one that we are officially enrolling our, our kids at. And we really love the school where they are going. It is a Montessori based school, which is wild to me to say that because if you look at the prices of Montessori schools in the United States, like we all know that. A lot of people, that have a similar identity as me. We know that we can't afford it or we don't feel our kids would belong in there. And so I. The fact that our kids are going to a Montessori school, it is a Catholic school. So that's something that I need to kind of adjust with just because for me personally, uh, we, we are not practicing Catholics necessarily, even though culturally we are, which is kind of an episode of its own. But you know, that's something that we're gonna have to adjust in terms of like. Taking the kids to mass and all of that. But who knows, maybe we'll enjoy the environment. And that's something that I've definitely did research on. I joined a Facebook group, uh, page for the local moms and the local parents in the area, as well as like a Facebook group page specifically for parents looking for schools in Leon. And, uh, through those filters, you know, through that. Search bar. I was like looking for the specific school's names and just trying to gauge on like what the experiences have been with the kids, and how parents, whether they recommended it or not. And overall, we, I noticed that there were really good reviews about the school, so that made me feel comfortable in, you know, enrolling them there. So If you have been following me I posted on Instagram that we went for a short trip. It was just me. I traveled solo with the kids and it was quite of an experience, let me tell y'all. But luckily my parents. Are there, they've been staying in, in Guanajuato in a small, about an hour away from Leon. We met up with'em and so it was really nice to have help. Right. And so the reason why we went there for a short amount of time is so that the kids could meet the, the teachers could meet the, the director of admissions and also the psychologist, and that way they can do an evaluation or it's called a ion. And so this balo is essentially an an assessment that every student has to take. Prior to actually enrolling into the school. It's not an admissions test. So they will not deny you if you don't quote unquote pass. But it's a way for the school to really see where they're at academically, social, emotionally even motorly. So I was very impressed that, you know, they required this as part of the. Enrollment process because in the United States, at least for me, growing up in Chicago, and you know, currently living in Chicago within the public school system specifically, like you just enroll them and that's it. And, and it's up to you whether if you wanna talk to the teacher and talk about your child's history, and especially if there's. First entering school for the very first time. You don't know if they would require an IEP or what have you, unless they already receive early intervention or services. But with the school where the kids are starting off with him in the fall, the teachers already know where they're at. The teachers already know that, okay, we're gonna create an individualized plan so that way, you know, we can better cater to their needs or what have you. So I thought that was cool. Alright, so another question about our kiddos. It was knowing how central bilingualism is in your life and family. I'm curious if you chose a bilingual school for kiddos. So. The answer is technically no. And the reason why is because the bilingual schools in Mexico, or at least in Leone, where we're moving at, it's almost like the reverse way if you think about dual language. And so with dual language here in the United States, you're starting off with 80% of the targeted language and maybe 20% of the dominant language. So in this case, 80% Spanish and 20% English. And essentially through the years, as the years move on, you'll meet, you'll be like fully bi literate, bilingual and, and the instruction will be 50 50. In Mexico, it's almost the opposite. So they start out with like basically 90% English and 10% Spanish. And even though at this point. Uh, the kids are Spanish dominant, specifically Diego, who is almost four and a half. You know, he is basically a Spanish only child. But we knew that if we ever wanna return back to the United States, I mean, he's gonna be immersed in English. And Alex and I talked to each other in English anyway, so they're already kind of exposed to English. And the reason why we wanted to not put him in bilingual school in Mexico is because, well. That's part of the experience. Again, we wanna fully immerse them into a very general kind of school environment that any kid in Mexico would go to unless their parents choose to put them in a bilingual or international school. One of the cool things about the school where the kids are going is that they will be getting one hour of English instruction every day. So at least they will be exposed to English. But when they come home, I mean, they will hear me and Alex talk to each other in English. So. I'm not hesitant as far as with like, oh my gosh, will they lose their English? No, because I know that they're gonna get it. They're gonna be immersed eventually when we decide to come back to the United States. Now, right now, the the, we don't really have a plan as far as with if we're gonna come back to the United States or not. But once we do come to a consensus and decide, okay, we are moving back to the United States. I mean, Spanish is still going to be the prominent language spoken at home, but if we do decide to stay in Mexico for a longer period, I would say for more than three years, then we're definitely going to implement English at home because Spanish will be the dominant language around their surroundings. And so another question that I got was, what's your school plan? Are you going to come back for Diego to start kindergarten in the United States? So again, we're not sure. I mean, to be honest and. Our goal right now definitely is for us to stay there for a year and we signed our lease. Uh, we already found a house in in Leone, which is awesome. It's a fully furnished home, so that's also part of the reason why we're not taking a lot of stuff with us. And so we know that we'll definitely be alone for a year. And if we decide to come back, well, Diego will be starting. Uh, kindergarten in the United States, but if we decide not to come back, our goal is either to come back after a year or when Mateo would start kindergarten. So that would put Diego maybe what in kindergarten? First, second grade, I believe. But again, we'll see. Uh, there's still a lot of. Uncertainties and I'm okay with it. I would say as we get closer to the end of the year, like this time next year, then I'll give you a better idea. Alright, and so the next questions are about lifestyle and community. And so one of the questions that was asked us, share with me your price tags. We are seriously thinking about doing this, but it's so unnerving. And so in terms of like the cost of living in Mexico, as we know, it is significantly cheaper if you're coming in with US dollars. And so Alex is still keeping his job. He has that privilege of keeping his job because he works remotely And so the cost of living will be significantly less just because we also have the ability to get an additional stream of income from the apartment that we will be renting. So our building that we own, we. Have three different tenants and we are generating income out of that. And with that income we are able to pay our rent I think that's the beauty of, you know, having that ability to own property in the United States and you know, especially as a real estate investment property, you're able to do that. And we don't necessarily have to live here. We can rent this place out and then. Whatever we make from the revenue, we're able to, you know, pay it towards our own expenses. And so in this case, although we have to worry about are, is like food, right? Personal expenses, uh. That's it, you know, and so we definitely worked on a budget. We kind of compare the costs of like what it's like if we were to still live here versus like moving to Leon and there's a really neat cost comparison tool that I'll share it in the show notes that we utilized. And so it's essentially compares the current cost of living at your city right now in the United States to a specific city in. Mexico There is a database specifically for Leon, and so we were able to compare anything that you would pay in Chicago versus in Leon in this case for me. But yeah, you can modify it based on where you're located and where you wanna move to eventually. And yeah. Being that I know that we have family in Mexico, my parents are also going through a transition of officially moving to Mexico. Initially they were like, yeah, we're gonna move to Mexico during the winter time when it's cold in Chicago. We're gonna live there for a couple months, but now they're definitely gonna be living full-time as well. And they are currently building their casa in where they're both from. And so knowing how much they spend, and my grandparents too, they also retire. They're living the retired life in Mexico. They helped us have a better idea as far as with like how much things really costs. And now they live in a pueblo, which is significantly different than living in a big city like Leon. And so Leon is, is a lot more expensive, like compared to a small Rancho, for example. But if you really compare the cost of living in Chicago though, like, yo, so to give you a comparison. If you were to rent a three bed, two and a half bath house in Chicago, you would spend roughly about 2,500, maybe$3,000 tops. If you were to live in the city of Chicago, the suburbs would be anywhere between 2000 to 2,500. Now in Leon, we are renting a three bedroom, two and a half bathroom house. The same amount of rooms basically for a thousand dollars. Okay. Roughly. Uh, so it's about, it's definitely gonna be 20,000 pesos. Like, so when you compare it, it's about maybe, let's just say 1200 max. So y'all like, it's literally saving us over a thousand dollars just. To live like in a home, so it's definitely significantly cheaper. But obviously if you want add-ons or like luxuries and things like that, like obviously, you know, depending on your lifestyle really, you know, it can be expensive or it may not be expensive. And for us, we're pretty low key people. We definitely, like, we're foodies and we like to go out to eat, but the benefit of going out to in Mexico is that it's significantly cheaper than if you were to go out to eat here. So. I'm hoping that we would end up saving money in the long run, and I know that we are. But I could always get back to that. All right. The other question was, how are you going to build community in Mexico? And that is a great question. I think for us, we're definitely gonna base it off on our kids' school because our kids are gonna be there every day and they're gonna be there for five hours a day, which is wild. I'm gonna have five hours of my time to myself. Y'all like. I just cannot wait for that moment, to be honest. Watch me cry like every day though. We'll see. But I'll definitely celebrate that, that the fact that I'm gonna have five hours to myself every day. But as far as with, uh, building community, I definitely will be defaulting to my kids' school just because I know that. Our kids are so social and I know that they're gonna make friends and hopefully I can make mommy friends there. Like I said, I have a cousin and and Amiga that's there, and we're around the same age. Their kids are a little older than our kids, but at least, you know, we can relate and have those lived experiences as mommies. And, you know, they're, my kids are so social that they can talk to and hang out with anyone really. And. I know that there's also a wave of US parents that are bringing their families to Mexico and deciding to take this leap of officially moving to Mexico. And I am Y'all like the power of social media definitely has its cons, but one of the biggest benefits is that you can connect to anyone around the world. And there was a specific mama who reached out to me and she was like, oh my gosh. Just so you know, I've been following you for such a long time. And when you announced that you were moving to Mexico, I was very excited for you, but then when you announced that you're moving to Leon, I am even excited because I am from Leon too. My husband and I just moved to Leon as well. And y'all like, we connected over Zoom and we were on this chat for like. Uh, almost two hours. Like it was, it was such a fun conversation that I had with her and just like her sharing her story with me and also giving me tips and the fact that I'm already able to create community now before we actually move to Mexico. Like y'all, there's a lot of beauty within that. And so a lot of people decide to not. Disclose such a big shift like this, such a big transition like this. But if you're someone that needs that support, who needs that encouragement and like who really wants to build community, then share it away. Like just say it out to the world and say like what you're planning to do or what you're actually going to do. Because you will have a lot of people behind your back. And honestly for us. We have gotten so many positive comments. So many, uh, great, like words of wisdom and even like, encouragement. And, uh, you know, there's so many people that are inspired with our decision to moving to Mexico, and I'm so glad that we are not keeping it just to ourselves or to our close ones. And honestly, I was like dying to tell you all because. I know that there is a larger community of like people who either are doing the shift with us or who are thinking about it, but perhaps they're afraid and this can kind of like lift them to make this change and or it's just people who are inspired and they wanna know your story. And so for us, I am so excited to share with you all like what we're going to embark on at the time of this recording it. We are in early June. And so my goal is to keep you up to date with everything that is going on. It has been kind of crazy just because we are packing, we're trying to get rid of our things. We're actually going to lease up this apartment in July, and so there's a lot of changes happening our way and it's sometimes in that midst of it. It's just very hard for me to give you all of these updates. But I promise with you all that my goal is to have at least one of these episodes every month. That way you get to be on the know, but obviously follow my Instagram page. That's where you'll be seeing a lot of behind the scenes or just like updates about our upcoming travel. And then of course, on YouTube as well, I will bring along my husband, uh, Alex, who. Will also be providing and sharing his perspective because, you know, even though this is specifically a platform for Latina moms, being that I am married to you know, the, the father of my children, like we are doing this together. It's not just me. And so I could honestly talk about this for hours and hours but i'm so glad that you reached out to me and asked all of these questions and all of these like different curiosities that you have about our move and, and I'm sure that you are seeking this inspiration so that you can do something different hopefully in the future. And that's exactly why this is going to be a series. I think that it is so important to just share and, keep you all up to date because hopefully this can be a momentum of. Us specifically Latina moms, to consider going back to the motherland. I mean, I think that's just all a part of the American dream, so if you're thinking about making a similar move or you're just living, uh, through us vicariously, I want this series to be helpful and honest. And so keep sending me your questions honestly, like they're helping me process this whole experience too. And so my goal is to continue on with this series, so that way I can share more about what we're doing, where we're going, how are we in this stage, and all of that. All right? So don't forget to subscribe. Leave a review of this episode if it helped you and tag me on Instagram, which is@vivalamami with your thoughts. I love connecting with you all. And I hope that you take this as a sign that if you wanna do something different, it is possible. It does take a lot of logistics. It does take a lot of planning and preparation and a lot of mindset work, but it can get done, I promise you. All right, AMI. Well, thank you so much for listening or watching on the next episode.