Breaking Limits: The Man Who Won’t Stop | Andy Stone

What does it take to go from hitting rock bottom to becoming a world record-breaking endurance athlete?

Andy Stone’s story is one of unbelievable resilience, grit, and defying the odds. Expelled from school. Battling addiction. Facing a future with no direction. But instead of becoming another statistic, Andy made a life-altering decision—he turned his pain into fuel.

He didn’t just recover. He became a world record holder for Ironman triathlons, proving that the limits most of us accept can be shattered. Now, he’s chasing an even bigger goal—swimming the Atlantic Ocean, a feat that only a handful of people have ever attempted.

In this episode, Andy shares:
 🔥 How addiction nearly destroyed his life—and the turning point that changed everything
🔥 What it takes to go from rock bottom to world-class performance
🔥 The training, mindset, and discipline behind breaking records
🔥 Why he believes neurodivergence is his greatest strength

This isn’t just an interview—it’s a blueprint for resilience, reinvention, and pushing past what you thought was possible.

Whether you’re an athlete, entrepreneur, or just someone looking for a reason to push through when things get tough, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss.

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Transcript

Paul: 0:29

Hello, good afternoon and welcome to Marketpulse Pros and Pioneers, where this week we're talking to a Guinness World record holder. Andy Stone, welcome to the show.

Andy: 0:39

Thank you very much for having me. Good to be here.

Paul: 0:41

Amazing. I can confirm you are definitely our very first world record holder on the show,

Andy: 0:46

Oh,

Paul: 0:47

knowledge anyway, to the best of my knowledge,

Andy: 0:49

privileged.

Paul: 0:50

Absolutely honored to have you on the show. So, for the people at home Andy is not just a Guinness World record holder, but he's an ultra endurance athlete and a motivational speaker on a mission to help people harness their as a superpower. After years of struggling with ADHD, autism and Addiction, Andy's turned his life around achieving sobriety and pushing his mind and body to new limits. And in 2022, he completed 70 half iron mine, iron Man triathlons. I can't even talk today in 75 days. So not even just completing 70 half Iron Man triathlons on its own, but doing that within 75 days. And that's how he set a world record covering the equivalent distance from London to Beijing. That is unreal. He's now training for his next challenge, which is to become the first person to swim the Atlantic, and Andy shares his story through speaking engagements inspiring others to embrace resilience, break limiting beliefs, and unlock their full potential. I don't even know where to begin with all of that. Andy, that is a phenomenal. bio and probably one of the most impressive bios that I've had to read out for the source, so

Andy: 2:00

To be honest, I feel a little, I feel a little bit pressured that

Paul: 2:04

You're intimidated by yourself. But it is it's a fantastic story

Andy: 2:09

Thank you.

Paul: 2:10

in line with our partners for the show being ADHD Liberty. You know, neurodiversity and ADHD and autism are all things that are very central to my life at the moment. Things that I'm very passionate about helping people to understand more of. So when I got the opportunity to talk to yourself, a no brainer for me that we should have you on the show and share your journey and story as well. Before we get into where you're at right now, I just wanna come right back to the beginning, to your school and your childhood. What was that like living at a point before you were diagnosed officially? How did you know what were the things that people might recognize from their own childhood that kind of gives them an idea as to indications or symptoms?

Andy: 2:52

Yes, that's a good question. I was the typical sort of naughty boy, the boisterous boy mom and dad's kind of recognized. Kind of some of the symptoms fairly early on, so kind of primary school age, and they did everything that they could to. Keep me away from things like ultra processed food. Obviously it wasn't called that at the time, but it was just e numbers, colorings, flavorings, preservatives. They noticed immediately that as soon as I went into my system, I would just become incredibly hyper active disruptive. So they did everything they could. To shield me from that. And then obviously you get a bit older, you get to high school age and you get a bit of pocket money. You can go to the shop with a tuck shop at school, whatever. And then I was unable then to kind of control those kind of cravings and stick me in a two hour math lesson after a 10 p mix. And there was just no chance. And it became more and more disruptive. I became more and more kind of fearful in the classroom. I got expelled from the local comp. I was then sent to a grammar school. I think my dad probably remortgaged the house for the fees, but they just sent me to the smaller classes, better results, all of that stuff. But of course it just continued. I then kind of halfway through grammar school, got a diagnosis for ADHD privately. And even at the time, you know, this would've been around 95, 96 there was very little known about it. So even with a diagnosis. It's not like it is now where you can then go away and research it. It the behaviors and the symptoms still kind of carried on very much into my sort of late teens and twenties. But yeah, it was difficult and not knowing what was happening, you know, that was a real problem for me. I couldn't understand why I was getting sent outta the class again. Why am I in detention again? Why? Am I getting expelled, and it was a very repeating pattern, but with no answers, so very frustrating.

Paul: 4:43

And I guess you kind of get used to being labeled as you described it perfectly at the beginning, right? The naughty boy, you get used to being described as that way, and I'm guessing you start to almost believe that and play into that at times as well, because why not? Everybody believes it of me and I'm trying my best. Is that fair?

Andy: 5:00

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there was cases where if like things would go wrong at school, where was Andrew Stone? It was the first thing for the teachers to consider, right? Where's the guilty party at? And it was considered me like it was guilty till proven innocent. And then, yeah, I think I think that's why there is potentially such a high prison rate for ADHD is because you do get to the point where you think, do you know what? And then, yeah, you work you play the role and you step over that line and the judicial system gets involved and you get in trouble.

Paul: 5:27

I think there's also that combined with the traits of a lack of respect for authority natural rebellious attitude and not, so I didn't so much struggle with that. I kind of did a little bit at school, but more when I got into the corporate environment, I was always that guy he just wasn't doing as he was told because haven't explained it in a way where I understand it, where I really buy into what you are doing. I, I don't think anybody talked about ADHD or neurodiversity in any way, shape, or form the entire 15 years I was in corporate life, not once. So I, I do totally get where you're coming from, but I, that obviously then despite the diagnosis, that still escalated into addiction, right?

Andy: 6:06

Yeah, absolutely. So then at kind of the end of the teens Yeah I discovered nightclubs girls ecstasy, cannabis. Speed, ketamine, magic mushrooms, you name it. And I just kind of thought that was like a coming of age that was kind of what you do when you discover clubs and you go off. And what I was actually doing was learning all the amazing ways that illicit drugs can help you to escape from your problems. Like I had moved out from home during the time of my GCSEs, home life had become very difficult. And yeah, I've. From the age of 16 to now, I've had, so that's 25, 26 years I've had 63 jobs because I just, it's been so reminiscent of school and that kind of whole similar scenario that I was terrified of classrooms. And yeah, a lot of my jobs are now cherry picked to be outdoors, to be in nature, to be teamwork and all this sort of stuff that I can use as a coping strategy for employment.

Paul: 7:02

I guess at the height of your addiction, you realize that things needed to change, right? There comes a turning point for everybody where you realize enough and you've gotta find a way to either. Get out of that situation and make the right choices, or you're gonna go down the path and there's not really much coming back once you're down that path. was

Andy: 7:21

the turning point for you Yeah. Yeah. So, I kind of progressed through my twenties and into my early thirties. And specifically alcohol for me was the overriding sort of drug of choice. And it just progressed in, dosage went up, and life was becoming more and more difficult. I couldn't hold a job down. My absolute best mate on planet Earth, who was my wife by then, I was married at 25 was very straight lacing down the line. She was a fantastic influence on me. And we'd just started to grow apart. So, I'd moved out. We'd discussed divorce at this point and. The whole victim mindset was just setting in conjunction with chronic alcohol abuse. And it got to the point where it took my mom and dads to sit me down to kind of say, Andrew, we believe you need rehab. And it was a whole family intervention. And then you kind of blew up like, no, I don't, you drink, if you had my problems and all of that kind of angry chimp mentality. And I then went off on a 48 hour bender. And kind of thought, you know what, maybe I do need rehab. And this is the point in my life where I think, okay, this is my rock bottom. I've lost my wife, I've lost my house. I've lost, I had all, I had to, my name was an eight grand debt from cocaine and my car and my clothes. I'd lost everything. And that was the point where I thought, do you know what? Yeah, because I tried to do dry January, stopped October all of these things, I'm not drinking till my birthday. I'm not drinking till Christmas and all of this kind of stuff and get a few days, anything, ah, that's enough of a detox, isn't it? And all the permissions would come flooding back. And there I was back at the bar again. So yeah the acceptance that I was addicted to the substance of alcohol came at residential rehab.

Paul: 9:04

And I think you, it's fair to say you've gotta want to make the change, right? Like it doesn't matter what the external influences are until you are ready to decide to do something different and make that choice. There's not a lot that will shift you from those behaviors. And even then it's a constant battle. It's never something that kind of just goes, you don't get cured addiction and certainly as an ADHD person where your dopamine levels are set so much lower than everybody else's, that's an even harder battle people to fight. It's definitely an uphill struggle for most.

Andy: 9:32

100%. What was the

Paul: 9:33

point where. You realized that you had a way to break through the addiction? You kind of set yourself a target and goal that, that kind of got you through the rough times,

Andy: 9:42

yeah. So, I found the first kind of three months incredibly difficult as you would in early recovery to do the withdrawal period of kind of finding your feet again, doing the work that's required. And as you say, step one, I'm in the 12 step program of recovery through aa. And step one is admitting it. I have got a problem with alcohol, my life is unmanageable. And and then from there, kind of the next 18 months was me trying to sort of slowly piece my life back together. And at 18 months, three months, things just felt a bit easier. Then at 18 months, again, things just felt a bit easier and life was kind of working for me again, and things were coming back together. And my victim mindset was just reducing. I was able to be, have you know, pride and ambition again, and I then went off and became a scuba instructor because I, fascinated. One of my hyper focuses is marine biology, the reef sharks, all of it, love it. And so it was outdoor, it was in a team. And after I went and I retrained and unfortunately Covid was spanners to that and I was brought back home. I was repatriated and met Sal. I moved in with Sally. And second lockdown was tough, really tough. I completely stagnated and I was that close. I literally stood up off the sofa to go and get. A bottle of Gin to Relapse. And myself and Sal had a very sort of grownup conversation and the project for the world record was born there. And then, so I was able to then start training. It was an 18 month project and it was my hyper focus for the entire time it just worked. And yeah, we, it wasn't flawless, but we executed it pretty well. We were happy with the result. In fact, I've got certificate here. Look.

Paul: 11:21

Wow.

Andy: 11:22

Yeah. So, yeah. Nice to have that kind of accolade that all my sort of talent wasn't completely wasted throughout my twenties and thirties, sort of late thirties and early forties. I've managed to piece it all back together and still achieve.

Paul: 12:12

That's an amazing accomplishment to, from going, you know, you've mentioned the highs and lows that you've been through, you said, you know, 65 jobs. But to go from all of that to then completing something that no one else on earth has actually done. That is a phenomenal achievement.

Andy: 12:27

Thank you. How did it

Paul: 12:27

feel when you kind of finished that last triathlon that half iron Man.

Andy: 12:32

Just the multitude the amount of different levels that it was an achievement on was crazy.'cause there was, like I say, the concept that I hadn't achieved anything professionally or particularly personally until this, or personally I could say I got sober, but other than that I've been divorced, you know, this whole kind of escapade of negativity and. So there was the finally the acceptance that I'd completed something significant in my life. It was the whole ADHD thing.'cause that for me, I've very rarely been able to pick my hyperfocus. There's been so many times I've gone, right this job, it's got this boss, it's got this money, it's got this potential, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then a month in oh yeah, it wasn't that after all. And then again, and again, and. Finally I picked something as my hyperfocus and we'd actually pulled it off an 18 month project. Oh my God. So there was that element to it. It's yes, I've finally utilized this skill this gift that ADHD has get, and I've done it. Amazing. And yeah, there was kinda the, it was a family. My family were my team. So my dad was roadside assistance. Mum was like domestic goddess doing all the food, the kids, the dog. All the housework and Sal was absolutely integral in all the admin side. And motivation, obviously bless her. And so it was a real sort of family unit that crossed the line as well, if you like. So there was just all of these things that as an addict, you know, you completely isolated the prospect of Sal even being interested in me when I was drunk. Having the physicality and you know, in my late thirties was just not never gonna be. An option. So managing to execute. It was just, and now I've got it forever. Talk about putting things on your cv. Goggins talks about his cookie jar, and it's just, it's there for life. Like I've could never have it taken away, you know?

Paul: 14:22

I must admit, when we when initially came across your profile to send out the invite to be a guest on the show, I couldn't be more excited at having the idea of having somebody who's a world record holder on the show. That was before I dug into your story. That and what a phenomenal story that is. And

Andy: 14:38

Thanks, mate.

Paul: 14:39

you are still evolving, right? So

Andy: 14:40

Yeah.

Paul: 14:41

now moved that. What have you been doing since that triathlon? Because you, I know we've mentioned at the beginning that you are heading towards a next challenge that have of swim in the Atlantic. But in terms of a professional career as well you've pivoted almost completely now that you know yourself a lot better.

Andy: 14:57

I'm now self-employed. It's, I'm now a peer mentor and helping individuals one-to-one going to schools, universities businesses, and talking exactly what I've been through. So, individuals that are getting ADHD diagnoses now. Would be it privately or NHS are still getting no more information than I got in the nineties so I can go and talk to these people. Have you got a diagnosis? Yes. Do you know what ADHD is? Attention deficit. Yeah, but you know what it is. No idea. Are you on Ritalin? Yeah. Do you know what it is? No idea. So now I can go and help these people by educating them on themselves, give them anecdotal stuff from me, make myself vulnerable.'cause that's sometimes what it takes to help people open up. It's my name is Andy. It's gone from being, I'm a, an alcoholic, I'm a drug addict, I'm autistic, I'm ADHD, like woe is me to, right? Yeah. I, my name is Andy. I'm an alcoholic. I'm a cocaine addict. I am ADHD and I'm on the autism spectrum. And here's what I know about it. Here's what I've been able to achieve by utilizing it. I it's gone from. You've got drug addiction and setting world records. And so that's the night and day for me. So if I can go into these places and teach them about the strengths rather than people just getting hung up on their weaknesses. And so it's things like, you know, for businesses it's things like it did helping people with the symptoms, the negative symptoms that come along with it, like poor timekeeping, you know? I'm a bugger for being late, but I have time blindness. I actually really struggle to predict how long things are gonna take. So I might be 10 minutes late, but then I don't need a lunch hour. If you give me a task that I enjoy, the dopamine, just go ping, and then it's through the roof and I, in fact, I resent lunch hours sometimes. So, it's flex. Just gimme flexi hours. And that's just one way of utilizing an ADHD. Just let him go. And then you hear the story of Bill Gates and his autistic lives that he kept in an office downstairs with no windows, low lighting, nothing in there. It's almost soundproof room. And people were come and kind of looking in going, what? He was working in there and all. And it turns out it's two autistic lives that it saved millions. On firewalls and cyber hacking, and they had a meeting with them and they brought'em out and this is the team, the prospect of an open office for those guys would've driven a mad. And so it's just trying to help companies and help individuals to know thyself and bringing empathy and not, you know, frustration. And that's my goal is, it's to, I'm doing it on, like I say, on a one-to-one level with mentees. Peer mentoring I believe is absolutely fantastic. It's'cause I'm not pretending to be something I'm not. I can go in and just be completely open and and I believe that is that.

Paul: 17:45

I think it's phenomenal because I come from a retail background and I remember commenting at the time completely unaware that I was ADHD and had autistic traits myself, and I remember commenting, seeing in a really positive way. You know what? I love working with people who are OCD, who show autistic symptoms who are ADHD because they've got energy, they've got passion. If you can motivate them and get them to do the, you know, the stuff that everybody else hits, you will find one of them will want to do that thing, and they'll do it incredibly well. They'll do it faster than anybody else thought was possible, and when they're finished, it'll be immaculately tidy and done. You just find those jobs for people and you know what their jobs are and you give them those jobs every time and they will, they'll go way above and beyond for you. And I remember saying that. But I never once, and I've said this loads, you know, I never once and I don't know anybody else who's can say otherwise that in that environment or any other, that there's any education for leaders and managers on neurodiversity. And I think a lot of the time it's seen as well, we must tick this box for HR to show that we know what neurodiversity is and then we can talk about it and we can prove it and we get a tick box and get a nice sticker for the window for the, you know, for the employer. But it's actually we are more important than that because you are underutilizing your best resource

Andy: 19:06

Absolutely.

Paul: 19:06

almost everybody is neurodiverse in some way, shape or form. I'll be, you know, it's maybe a bit contentious for some people, right? But I believe that firmly and you can leverage somebody like Andy to educate your workforce. So that you can maximize. So I used to get a 60 or 70 hour week done in 40 hours, right? My management hated it because I needed to be there for that 50 hour contract. They expected me to be there for 60 hours or 70 hours, like my peers, and I'd be like, more fool them. I've done what they do in two, three days. I've done it today in eight hours, and I'm going home. And I used to get in trouble all the time for leaving early from work. Because I was bored, supremely bored.'cause I've done everything guys. I've done it. And like you say, I'd work through my dinner break. I wouldn't bother with proper breaks, I'd just chug an energy drink down, have a kind of, I'd have a bar of chocolate to give that peak in the middle of the day. And then I'd be back on with things and do it faster than anybody else. I love the fact that you are going round and educating not just business owners, but universities, schools you know, on, on how to overcome that adversity for their neurodiverse employees, students, whoever or themselves. What's your best advice for somebody who's in that position? They suspect that they might be neurodiverse. But they're not feeling that support from their leadership. How do they influence their leadership to care enough in

Andy: 20:31

That's a really good question. I think first of all, you have to know thyself. I have had to go away in a sober state, understand what was the root cause of my drinking, and it was man, neurodiversity without a doubt. And. It was because I was trying to compete with my peers. I was making personal comparisons to my brother, to my spouse, to my mates and it got very frustrated in sobriety. I've been able to understand my own hormones. I always used to think, oh, girls are hormonal once a month. How ignorant I was. I am one of the most hormonal people that I know and so I to understand myself. Has been absolutely vital and an integral part of them being able to educate others about me.'cause if I don't know myself how can I do that? And so if I can then go to my employer and say, okay, I am autistic. I do have ADHD, here's the drawbacks, but here's the positives and if you can just work with me. Not, I'm not asking to change much, but. His X, Y, Z that I know works for me personally and I believe it would help that because neuro diversity is, they record, it's one in five people. So it's a massive part of pun people's workforces that if these small changes can come in and an empathy from above an understanding, and it may just be that your boss has actually got a neurodiverse individual in their direct family and working together with you in work might help them personally. And you may find that I by being open about addiction, people come forward all the time. About alcohol and drug abuse and am I drinking too much, Andy? And they'll kind of come on. What I understand the the aspect of the anonymous side of the fellowship that I'm in, and I have huge respect for that. But by me actually choosing to be open, it gives people strength to come forward and talk about it. So I think empathy, I think understanding, I think you'll find that people have a lot of other experiences with this.

Paul: 22:28

The biggest thing that I would recommend on the back of that is if you are a leader and you are not educated on neurodiversity, rather than worry about all of the ins and outs of it right now. I would highly recommend you go away and look at what the traits are for ADHD and autism.'cause there are some very surprisingly obvious traits that even I knew nothing about until about a year or two ago. That now that I know about them are massively obvious and I should have known thing. I, if I'd known about those traits years ago, I'd have realized that I was ADHD years ago and being able to deal with. Criticism that was leveled my way. Advice and feedback that was given with the best of intentions, but wasn't ultimately helpful. And it's things like, you know, I can't stand labels on the back of my clothes. I never have done since I was a kid. Certain types, labels, I think they're a lot better than they used to be, but definitely, you know, anything scratchy on my skin, wool, that sort of thing. And it's things that you would never associate with ADHD because there's quite often sensory traits that are part of the autism tree that are highly correlated with ADHD. as a leader, if you go away and research those, I bet that you'll start to see them amongst your staff, your employees, your direct reports, or your peers, your management. You'll see it all around you once you start to see it. And with that in mind, you'll be able to give people a little bit more leeway in how you work with them, how you talk to them, how you handle them, what feedback you give to them, and it'll help you get on the pathway where. Somebody like Andy coming in will massively benefit your business. But a lot of people are out there going, right now going, I don't have any ADHD employees... guarantee you do! They're just very good at masking it in a corporate environment. You know, biggest feedback I ever had was, Paul, why don't you just tour the company line'cause I'm a

Andy: 24:20

Absolutely.

Paul: 24:20

Rebel. I can't help it. That's part of my personality. I'm a rebel and you are giving me orders and you are not backing it up with proof points. Prove it to me. Show me how it'll benefit me, the customers on my team, then we'll do it. If you don't prove it to me and you're just gonna make me do it, I will be your biggest, worst enemy. Believe it. Hence why I'm not in corporate world anymore. So Andy with that kind of coming back to that, that last challenge that you are now aiming towards swimming the Atlantic, I mean. That's outrageous. What's your training plan for that? When you, when are you gonna be doing that?

Andy: 24:52

Yeah, so that's a good question. I had a, an English channel attempt last year. So that's kind of me dipping my foot with the open water swimming thing. I've always been a really lucky at swimming. I swam as a kid, swam for the town loads of galas and training and all of that. So it's one of those things from childhood that sticks with you. And I'm just dead lucky in that respect. So. Again, it's playing to my strengths. So instead of me banging my head against a wall trying to do what I'm bad at, this is finally an opportunity for me to go, okay the record was set in triathlon of the three triathlon disciplines. It's swimming all day long. It is my greatest strength. So. Why not try it? We were actually on a family holiday on a plane over the Atlantic and I was like, oh, I wonder if anyone's ever sw across the Atlantic. And a few people have had a crack. No one has done it officially. So we've spoken to a couple of'em that have done it unofficially and their kind of attempts were discarded. So we are now gathering information. All the kind of admin side of the project is kind of coming together. We're now very much at a point where we're after corporate sponsorship. We raised money for John Caldwell, for Caldwell Youth, so we're hoping potentially we could try and work again with those guys. It was, it went really well. so as for the actual physical training side of things, I'm actually on a break at the minute. Because the hours that I put in last year for the channel all no wetsuit, all in kind of the British coast. So a lot of cold water conditioning, a lot of hours in the lake with no wetsuit on. So anything between sort of eight and 11 hours a day, 5,000 calorie breakfasts. So for breakfast I'll eat 500 calories of porridge with berries, seeds, nuts, a pint of whole milk. And then I have a 900 gram trifle, which is another 1800 calories. And then I drink a pint of double cream, which is another 2,800 calories. I then swim for two hours, and then every hour on the hour, I drink a certain amount of liquid, which has powders in it. And it's the equivalent sugar of a whole cheesecake on the hour, every hour. So the calorific intake has to be, you have to condition yourself for that. It's a first world problem,

Paul: 26:56

yeah.

Andy: 26:57

So yeah, it's just building it all up. So I'll be back to, I'm in the gym a lot at the moment. I use a CrossFit gym, so a lot of high, a lot of hit stuff at the moment. And then I will slowly build the swimming back up again and hopefully we can sort of tie it all together with corporate sponsorship and it'll all come to fruition hopefully. We, we were initially planning for this year but we're looking at 2026 now, so been going from Brazil to West Africa, and there's this, there's a window that opens up where the north and south. Trade winds come across from Africa to to the Caribbean side, but there's a channel that opens up that kind of drifts back, like a giant rip current that takes back across the Atlantic. And it's called the Doldrums. So sailors hate it'cause there's no wind. But for a swimming it'd be perfect. So we'd have

Paul: 27:43

why I'd be

Andy: 27:43

a

Paul: 27:44

in the doldrums.

Andy: 27:44

Yeah, exactly that. Yeah. But we're going to.

Paul: 27:47

else.

Andy: 27:47

Yeah. Sailors hate it, but there's no benefit to the win for a swimmer. It just, in fact, it just made the whole thing more uncomfortable. So, yeah, so we're getting it together. We are quietly optimistic but it's still a way to go.

Paul: 27:58

If and when you do complete, when you do, I'm confident you will. Andy,

Andy: 28:02

Thanks mate.

Paul: 28:02

spoken to you a couple of times, when you do, please let me know. I want you back on the show. We wanna celebrate that win.

Andy: 28:09

Thank you.

Paul: 28:10

you know, as you're building up to it, keep in touch with us. Let us know. We'll do some shout outs on the podcast because I'd love to encourage people to support you in the journey.

Andy: 28:17

you.

Paul: 28:17

there's anybody out there that can help you with that corporate sponsorship, I've got a huge network of amazing people. So please do, if you're watching this and you think you've got somebody who can help, please do get them to reach out to me. Reach out to Mandy directly. I'll happily connect you because he's such a phenomenal person who's done so much for other people already. So.

Andy: 28:35

Thank you, mate.

Paul: 28:36

for coming along to d and d. Appreciate you sharing your story. If people wanna reach out and learn more, what's the best way for them to reach you?

Andy: 28:43

So they can get me on my website, which is andy hyphen stone.com. Or you can get me on the normal socials. Insta is Atlantic Swim, Andy or ADHD mentor, Andy. And yeah, find me through that. Ping me and I would love to have a chat.

Paul: 28:58

Fantastic. Thanks very much for that. And I'll make sure those links are in the show notes as well.

Andy: 29:02

Perfect. Thank you.

Paul: 29:03

care. Thank you very much and thanks for watching along. I hope you've enjoyed today's episode and I will share another amazing story with you next week. Bye-bye.