The Hard Way Out
We are a long time married couple - complete opposites - navigating marriage, parenting, and life together. We are always seeking truth and trying our damnedest to live it out. We've discovered that through all we have been through together, the answers are never found on easy street.
Episodes
26 episodes
Ep. 26 - "Carrie Gets Psychological"
In episode 26, we start out with a little small talk and laughter, as per usual. The conversation flows into discussing our recent experience with seeing Dr. Jordan Peterson live in Birmingham. We talk about sacrifice, what we're su...
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Episode 26
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1:04:10
Ep. 25 - "Why Hanging Christmas Lights Really Causes Arguments"
In Episode 25, we chat about our recent experience with hanging Christmas lights (did I mention this is a first in all of our 17+ years of marriage?). I thought I helped exactly as Lee needed me to. Lee felt differently. 😂 The entir...
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Episode 25
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57:42
Ep. 24 - "Anxiously Attached"
Join us for Episode 24, "Anxiously Attached", which just also happens to be one of my (Carrie's) favorite episodes to date! If you struggle with any of the following, you may struggle with anxious attachment:fear ...
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Episode 24
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1:24:26
Ep. 23 - "Lee's Rant About The World Today"
Join us for episode 23, where Lee goes down a rabbit hole about why things don't work well anymore in the world. We also mix in a little humor where we chat about animal scavenger hunts, rolling houses, and Gene who owns the local parts store.&...
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Episode 23
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51:58
Ep. 22 - "There is Such a Thing As a Dragon"
Join us for episode 22 where we talk about what FEAR really is...How are monsters under the bed for children comparable to problems in the future for adults?Why is telling a child, "There's no such thing as a monster under the b...
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Episode 22
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51:14
Ep. 21 - A Whole Lotta Nothin'
Join us for some laughs about a whole lotta nothing in episode 21. We'll be back to our regularly scheduled programming in episode 22, where we talk about our deepest fears.
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Episode 21
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47:02
Ep 20 - "Takin' the (Cold) Plunge"
Join us for episode 20, where we take a dive into our new toy - the cold plunge! Lee has been wanting a cold plunge for years. I, Carrie, on the other hand, haven't. 😉 Regardless, I took my first plunge this morning and we'll...
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Episode 20
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54:00
Ep. 19 - "Life After Betrayal" (Part Three) - Jealousy
Join us for episode 19, where we talk about what jealousy is and the best way to overcome it (hint: it's not easy). We share personal stories of how jealousy has affected our lives in the aftermath of betrayal.
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Episode 19
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58:26
Ep. 18 - "Small Talkin' with the Family"
Join us for Episode 18, where we sit down with Lee's brother, Andrew, and his wife Holly. Andrew, Holly, and their kiddos came to stay with us recently and we coerced them to sit down and record a podcast with us. We had to twist t...
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Episode 18
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1:06:39
Ep.17 - "Life After Betrayal" (Part Two)
Follow us on Instagram at @carrie.m.williams!In episode 17, we continue chatting about the steps we took after betrayal. In part one, we spoke of how our faith initially helped us forgive, but time proved that forgiveness wasn't enough....
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Episode 17
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48:22
Ep. 16 - "Life After Betrayal" (Part One)
Follow us on Instagram @carrie.m.williams 🫶Many of you have asked us to talk about how we've built a thriving marriage after betrayal. Because this topic is so deep, episode 16 only covers the steps we took in the immediate aftermath.
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Episode 16
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58:16
Ep. 15 - "Shootin' the Shit with Lee and Carrie"
We strayed from our norm in episode 15 and didn't talk about anything serious. I can't believe we were successful! Well, let me (Carrie) clarify. We talked about my massive fear of cockroaches and fishing hooks, so yeah, I suppose those are ser...
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Episode 15
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48:16
Ep. 14 - "Traumatic Healing Breathwork" with Katie Hopson
Find us on Instagram at @carrie.m.williams In episode 14 of The Hard Way Out, we sit down and chat for TWO amazing hours with traumatic breathwork healer, Katie Hopson. I, Carrie, have been working with Katie to ...
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Episode 14
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1:55:20
Ep. 13 "Who is Amy G and Why Does She Have So Much Control Over You?"
Don't worry, Amy G isn't another woman. I mean, she might be, but that's not what we're talking about on this episode. ;)Amy G. Dala is a helpful mnemonic to remember the part of the brain called the amygdala. You may or may not have he...
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Episode 13
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1:06:02
Ep.12 - "No Really. It's Not You. It's Me."
Episode 12 is the second of several episodes where we talk about healthy communication and why it's important in your relationships. Struggles in communication are what we hear about ALL the time, and is the area in which we struggle the most i...
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Episode 12
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1:13:00
Ep. 9 - Bonus Episode - A Revelation
Have you ever heard something 50 times only to have it hit differently on that 51st time? Well, that's what happened to me (Carrie) on a recent flight home from Minneapolis. As I was watching a show series called "Couples The...
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Episode 11
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49:00
Ep. 11 - Everybody Makes Mouth Noises
Don't forget to follow @leeandcarriewilliams and @carrie.m.williams on Instagram for podcast updates and info! You've been asking for it and we're delivering - an intro into COMMUNICATION. Communication is everything....
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Episode 11
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1:07:05
Ep. 10 - "Diving into Conscientiousness and Openness"
In this episode, Lee and Carrie chat about the final two personality traits that fall under the Big Five. Listen along as they discuss their similarities and differences with conscientious and openness. They even have a little fun discussing wh...
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Episode 9
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1:08:52
Ep. 8 - "Understanding Extraversion"
Extraversion is one of the Big Five Personality traits. People high in extraversion are usually outgoing and energized by social situations. On the opposite end of the spectrum, people who are higher in introversion are typically more reserved ...
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Episode 8
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56:12
Ep. 7 - "Agreeableness: The Trait that Causes the Most Conflict Between Lee and Carrie"
On the scale of agreeableness, Carrie falls around the 99th percentile (highly agreeable), whereas Lee falls around the 1st percentile (highly disagreeable). In short, Carrie's too nice and Lee isn't nice at all...;)This pe...
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Episode 7
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1:04:23
Ep. 6 "A Little Neuroticism Ain't So Bad"
In episode 6, Lee and Carrie chat about one of the big five personality traits, neuroticism (which is sensitivity to negative emotion). One's level of neuroticism, like any other personality trait, can be better described as fallin...
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Episode 6
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1:06:02
Ep. 5 "What is Personality & Why Does It Matter in Relationships?"
Personalities are arguably one of the most complex things on earth. That's why it's critical to understand who you are (and who your spouse is) if you desire to create a strong, healthy, and communicative marriage or relationship. ...
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1:00:46
Ep. 3 "What is Easter?"
Happy Easter!! In this podcast, Lee and Carrie talk about Easter and what it means, why eggs and rabbits are involved, Christmas, Abraham Lincoln, and more...
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Episode 4
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51:10