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Ever wondered what it’s like to have a close encounter with a celebrity chimp? Kevin, our guest from a quaint Southern Florida town. We transition from this light-hearted trivia to a deep dive into the exhilarating yet risky world of owning exotic pets. From monkeys to large dogs, we discuss the thorny issues and the appeal of living with such extraordinary companions, culminating in a lively debate on the feasibility and hazards of pet ownership.

Get ready for a mind-expanding journey as we explore the multifaceted world of psychedelics, featuring Kevin's personal insights into substances like ayahuasca, LSD, ketamine, and DMT. Learn about the cultural and ceremonial significance of ayahuasca, the importance of shamans, and the potential benefits and risks associated with these powerful substances. We also touch on the controlled psychedelic therapy programs in California and Canada, the dark history of MK Ultra, and the contemporary landscape of potent THC levels and the dangers of adulterated drugs like fentanyl.

As we wind down, join us for a candid conversation about nicotine addiction. We discuss the rebellious behavior of peers from strict religious backgrounds and the importance of authenticity in relationships. We round off with some light-hearted discussions on concerts, the intriguing world of cover bands, and the peculiar dynamics of family lineage. Don’t miss out on this episode packed with engaging stories, diverse topics, and thought-provoking debates!


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Kyle

isn't that life, and you know what life has brought us A new guest on this podcast. I think your mic is off. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, oh there we go, there we go I couldn't hear you, but yeah, I'm glad to be on the show.

Kevin

Yeah, I listen to the pod.

Kyle

Nice to meet you guys, if you're a loyal listener, you will be on the podcast.

Ryan

Ask him some trivia, yeah for real.

Kevin

Yeah, they aren't lying, they're going through the whole list. You got to ask him some trivia now.

Kyle

What type of trivia?

Erick

Like do you really know Ryan, Does Kyle really?

Kyle

know me, Shit, no. So essentially this is Eric's friend. We've met Kevin before once, maybe twice, I think it's once I think only once, though.

Ryan

Once Was it two years ago, a year, and a half.

Kevin

I think it was two years ago. Yeah, it was a while ago.

Kyle

A while ago. Hell yeah, what have you been doing, kevin? What's been up with you?

Kevin

None much man.

Kyle

Yeah, I just live myself very small town.

Ryan

Yeah, very many mexicans. Yeah, very, very many.

Kyle

Yeah, man, that's an understatement there's a lot, but you know what I mean we're gonna give away the town. I will by saying this michael jackson's fucking chimp lives there yeah, yeah, I've seen him actually really get the fuck out of you. He's in that fucking ape sanctuary.

Erick

He just what celebrated 40 years.

Kyle

Yeah, how fucking long did those dudes live?

Kevin

They lived a while in captivity.

Ryan

When the fuck? I thought I told you that I had never heard about this. No, no.

Kyle

That's fine. How the fuck did a fucking chimp go from Michael Jackson to a tiny immigrant town in Florida, in Southern Florida?

Kevin

Yeah, I know.

Kyle

Is it like a fucking sick-ass ape sanctuary? Yeah, it's a machula.

Kevin

Well, yeah, it's about as good as it probably gets in a small town. It's pretty nice for what it was. I've only ever been there. When I was they did a field trip for school way back when Nice. You think that chimp ever been there when I was, uh, they did a field trip went for school back way back when nice.

Kyle

You think that chimp ever like witnessed anything fucking mike was doing?

Kevin

probably probably yes you know, uh, uh, I was telling eric earlier but there's weird like trivia, for bubbles is the name of the chimp and uh, yeah. So apparently, uh, mercury from the band Queen. He was having dinner with Michael Gay guy For a few times, yeah, and he would have Bubbles like next to him during dinner all the time.

Kevin

So like Bubbles and Michael Jackson were always holding hands and like walking around their mansion and stuff and they'd have dinner together. And he was trying to make a song with michael but freddie eventually like gave up. He's like I'm so sick of that chimp, fuck, that I can't, I can't have dinner with this chimp over and over. And he, they stopped collabing. They were gonna make like a song together and it would have been crazy but it didn't happen because of that weird because he always has a monkey with all yeah at the time.

Kevin

yeah, he was really into it All over the news people were like really into it too. It was strange.

Kyle

He was yeah, he dressed it up. He would yeah, there's a picture of him like sitting at a dinner table. Yeah, like eating with everybody.

Kevin

Yeah, it was a weird fad. A lot of weird cases of people and he's not like a guy.

Kyle

He was a. If he wanted to fuck some shit up, he could the gym. He was a pretty good sized dog, yeah I mean, it's like a full, full torso size like a big dog yeah, that's fucking you'd get um monkeys and animals too, if you you know yeah, you had all the money, yeah, I could you get a monkey? I get a monkey for sure. Nah, you'd go tyson style mike t, you get like a fucking couple of tigers. No, hell, no, hell, no, not going to tiger.

Ryan

Fuck.

Kyle

No, they fucked me up. I would. I think everybody feels like they would fucking get a monkey. I'm taking a small one. I'm not getting a chimp, I'm not getting big ones.

Kevin

Yeah, like capuchin or something. Yeah, I'm getting, can kill if I need.

Kyle

If I need, if you need to, yeah, I can take you out of this world yeah, that's why I don't get about like huge dogs, like rottweilers and cane corsos that could fucking kill you if they go bad. Don't get an animal that can kill you. Have you seen always be able to kill your animals if you have to? Have you ever seen dogo before?

Ryan

a dogo.

Kevin

Doo a d-o-g-o dogo no, like a dog, it's a dog, it's a white dog.

Ryan

They're like pit bulls on star wars. Oh, they're straight imported from bosnia, brazil they're like new species.

Kevin

They're new species, yeah they're like motherfuckers.

Ryan

Wow, they like no, all that dude, they hunts. You have like three of them oh.

Kevin

Oh, like those, yeah Dogo.

Ryan

Argentino. Right there, one of my buddies has one of those.

Kevin

They're like the.

Ryan

Terminator Dude those. Dude they're, if you train them, good, 100-pound pit bull Dude. No, i'm're fucking massive.

Kevin

I've always heard that I know people that own pit bulls and stuff. They always say that too. They actually are really good animals for families and stuff, but you have to train them. If you don't, then they can be killers.

Ryan

My buddy that has one. I have a 70-pound pit bull. His dogo is like 120 pounds. How old is that?

Ryan

guy, my pit bull's four.

Ryan

His dogo is like 120 pounds. Fuck, how old is that guy? My pitbull's. Four, his dogo's like five or six, but he looks. He like towers over him and he's like. He's all Muscled up to he's all white, just like that. You know what I mean. Like he's, it's crazy.

Ryan

Fuck that, See how do you walk, something like that.

Ryan

I'm not strong enough to you, can't? I would die. My pit bull fucking destroys me walking. If you saw a squirrel?

Kyle

I'd fucking get scraped. I'm saying, bro, you have to be able to control it. You think you could kill your fucking pit bull if you had to? Yeah.

Ryan

Yeah, yeah, easily.

Kevin

Easily. I don't know man.

Kyle

I like small dogs, I don't like super tiny dogs but dogs enough where I could fucking throw their head down and be like you're fucking listening to me, dumbass.

Ryan

Well, no, I told you I got a 70-pound dog and a 40-pound dog. I have two dogs.

Kyle

That's 110 pounds of dog in your house.

Ryan

They could pop up on you. Hopefully not.

Kyle

Hopefully not. What if they just fucking ate you while you slept?

Kevin

You know that guy's pasta wasn't that good. We're going to jump in.

Erick

Have you heard those stories? When someone dies in their house and their dogs start eating them.

Kyle

It's cats, cats will start eating you after like two days.

Ryan

Two days Once they start smelling the cane shit or whatever.

Kyle

Yeah, it's fucked up. Dogs won't eat you. They have to be in there for a long time. Cats will immediately start eating you, that's true.

Kevin

Yeah, it's sooner, for sure.

Ryan

See, I never liked cats until I met Belly.

Kyle

Cats are motherfuckers until you meet a nice one. Some of them are nice, See even.

Ryan

Belly's a cunt, but she's nice.

Kyle

It's like they say you have to be a good dog owner to make a good dog, especially with, like pit bulls or like rottweilers, any of that cats I feel like, is for real a you're going to the casino, you can get a motherfucker of a cat and like you can't. I mean you can train them to some end, but they're fucking wild animals.

Kevin

Yeah, like they'll be they'll be motherfuckers yeah, they're way more independent compared to dogs. They're just easier to train.

Ryan

Yeah, my girl dog is a fucking saint, but my pit bull is a fucking maniac. He's a fucking lunatic. Are you a good dog owner? Did you train them? Well? So, my girl dog, when I got Chanel, it was just me. I trained her, just me. I was single, all alone, by myself. I trained her, just me. I was single, solo by myself. I got Rocco with my ex and he is a fucking baby. Big tits, fatass.

Kyle

Big tits. Fatass On that ex.

Ryan

Can suck a fucking dick through a fucking water hose.

Kyle

She can suck a dick through a water hose, what You're right.

Ryan

Yeah, wait, toes crunching, you got me fucked up.

Kyle

Come come, come come.

Erick

That's Nonsense.

Kyle

Are you just?

Erick

like pushing buttons. What sound does this make?

Kevin

Yes, yes.

Kyle

No, fuck that. I've never had a dog, so I know, I don't know. I wouldn't know the first Fucking thing about owning Any type of dog, even if they're like.

Ryan

Low maintenance. Dude, what you were saying About Cain Corso's was I had to do. I was working, we were working probably Like three months ago, but it was a fucking unit. This motherfucker was like 150 pounds, big ass Cain Corso. I thought he was a pit bull, but it was a Cain Corso. He was trying to fuck my days and nights up the entire fucking time, but he was a big motherfucker. Could you take him?

Kyle

Hell. No, I always feel like it'd be like that Call of Duty. You remember when you could, the dog would jump on you in Call of Duty and you'd just snap its neck real quick.

Kevin

I don't think it's that easy. I'd miss the QTE.

Kyle

I'd be hitting squareTE.

Kevin

Oh yeah.

Kyle

I'd be hitting square and really fucking die. Yeah, you'd miss the fucking button. Yep that's how I'd go. Dog would fucking eat you. God, it's got to hurt like a motherfucker.

Kevin

What a way to go. What a fucking way Getting taken down by a dog. Yeah, all my life led up to that. I'd fucking miss the QTE. Are you scared of dogs?

Kyle

Am I scared of dogs?

Ryan

If they're fucking dickheads. Actually, Chanel did not like you at all.

Kyle

No, I met your one dog. You met both of them, rocco and Chanel.

Ryan

Yeah, I met both of them.

Kyle

One of them didn't like me Rocco liked you, chanel didn't like you. Yeah, no, I'd fuck a 40-pound dog up for sure. I'd fucking belly splat. I. I'd fucking belly splat, I'd fucking. You could just pick them up. I'd just drop on them, fucking crush their head. They'd look like a dog rug. You're going to splat them.

Ryan

Splat them dude.

Kevin

Yeah, need a new spot rug for the kitchen.

Kyle

Yeah, yeah, damn, I saw that. We talked about it on the last one. The fucking Asian dog's going crazy On that gauntlet. I talked about it on the last one. The fucking Asian dog is going crazy On that gauntlet. I talked about it on another episode. They're skinning dogs alive, don't?

Ryan

No, they're skinning dogs alive and putting them on a fucking rotisserie like a chicken.

Kyle

That's so bad they're eating the dogs, the dog's alive Dogs are alive after the skin is taken off.

Erick

Huh you can see them blinking oh my it's, yeah, it's fucked up, it's gonna make me throw up it's fucked up.

Kyle

It's fucked up. I'm saying what the fuck are they doing over there?

Ryan

yeah, dude how good does dog taste? Listen, listen. So my buddy just go back. You know, I told you my buddy was out in thailand. This is gonna piss me off. Your buddy was in thailand. My buddy was out in Thailand. This is going to piss me off. Your buddy was in Thailand. My buddy was in Thailand for like two or three months, right? Uh-oh, yeah, that's.

Kevin

He was in Thailand.

Ryan

He bought a one-way ticket there. Is he a white guy? He's a white guy. Okay, so what he was doing was he would get a fucking, he'd rent a scooter and he'd be All those little villages Whatever the fuck is going on up there in the mountains. I just saw him when I went home to Jacksonville like two weeks ago. We were going to go watch his football game. Bro, they got whole ass elephants out there and everything and they're just fucking chopping, fucking chopping elephant heads off and shit you know, what I mean, bro.

Ryan

They're cockfighting out there. You know what I mean Like he's like he's showing me videos and I'm telling him I don't believe you. He's showing me videos Like they're cockfighting out there, chickens fighting, you know what I mean? They got elephants tied up, horses and all that shit. They're just chopping fucking heads off.

Erick

God damn, I mean, you got to think about it too. For them it's like, for them it could be just like it's just an animal.

Kyle

Why can't we do?

Ryan

that here in.

Kyle

America. What do you want to eat here that we can't Elephant? Well, we don't have elephants here. What part would you eat Import? You want to import some elephant meat? Yeah, because I even think it's kind of strange that we can eat a shark.

Ryan

I've never tried shark meat before.

Kyle

Not really, I don't really give a fuck about fish?

Ryan

No fuck the fish, fish, nah, fuck the fish. There's fucking too many of them. They've only discovered 8% or 10% of the fucking ocean.

Kevin

Yeah, that's true.

Kyle

But those Asian dogs? What happened, covid? You remember that when it was cool to be racist Against Asian guys, asian people, when you were like yo, they fucking were eating Bats over there, those fucking nasty bitches.

Ryan

Wuhan China.

Kyle

Wuhan market. Yeah, the fucking wet market.

Ryan

They're eating bats is what started.

Kyle

COVID-19. That's what started, covid-19.

Ryan

They're eating fucking bats.

Kyle

That's conspiracy.

Ryan

That's not conspiracy, can you?

Kyle

still get taken down for COVID misinformation.

Erick

Probably. Yeah, don't. Yeah, that's right, I forgot. I forgot to cut that. Cut, cut, cut. We're cutting that.

Kyle

No, but we love the vaccine. Ryan took it. I didn't, but Ryan did. Eric took it too. Yo don't put people's business out there like that.

Ryan

Me and Eric are the only I trip on it. Yeah, the Peruvian shit. Yeah, I wanted to try that. How fucked up were these motherfuckers in Peru eating tree sap and just taking fucking tree, bark off a tree and eating it and then having the craziest trip of their life. How do you find that? Well that you mean? How?

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Kevin

they discovered it. You mean, how did they discover it? Actually, they saw other animals eat the bark. So the animals were eating ayahuasca, and then they acted funny. Yeah, and then that's how they discovered it. Same with the I've heard, Dude.

Ryan

I've heard Because a couple kids I know have taken ayahuasca before it's crazy. It's fucking gnarly. Yeah, you throw up immediately, dude, they're throwing up. They're having a great time and you trip, you're tripping hard.

Kevin

Very hard.

Erick

I want to trip, but I'm also scared of like.

Kevin

Oh yeah, you wouldn't do anything like that. That's for like that's ayahuasca, that's the top-end, that's like next level, that's already expert.

Ryan

That's like.

Kyle

Was ayahuasca DMT. I've never do it unless I'm for real, like in a teepee with a shaman.

Ryan

Yeah, gang, gang You're supposed to-.

Kyle

Well, no, no, no, apparently, ayahuasca you're supposed to have like a full, like a ceremony, right?

Ryan

Have you seen the ayahuasca documentary they had on Netflix?

Kyle

You told me about it, but I haven't seen it.

Ryan

So a dude, a Canadian dude, he went to Peru, had a shaman out there or whatever, had a really bad trip Was fucked up on some shit, killed the shaman of that village, oh Jesus, the head lady. But they hung him from like 60 feet. Jesus yeah, it was fucked up, yeah.

Kyle

It was fucked up. Well, I mean because they say ayahuasca is what, like.

Kevin

I mean I guess it is like with any hallucinogenic, like psychedelic yeah, psychedelic, but I hear like ayahuasca is like for real, like, if you're going with intent and the right way, you can truly like figure shit out, you can find your own self, find yourself Essentially, you know they have this new like programs and like California that you can actually sign up for and they put you on a list, but they have, like you fill out a questionnaire about stuff that you would want to experience while you're tripping and they'll have like kind of a shaman, but more so a doctor, like a therapist, like guide you, and if you fill out your questionnaire you can like pretty much tell them, like them, what you're looking for spiritually or whatever, trying to get through and they'll actually help you, that's something I would sign up for.

Erick

I'd do that.

Ryan

Eric, you've never tripped before. I've never done it. Kevin, I assume you've tripped a bunch. How many times have you taken psychedelics before Twice?

Ryan

Only a tad, I don't know.

Ryan

I'm not. I don't know if I'm weird, Don't? This is off the record, but when I take psychedelics I'm just trying to have a good time, like.

Kevin

I'm not, I'm not trying to feel that.

Ryan

How I look at about it when I'm like tripping my fucking ass off, is like I'm not sitting there getting in my head trying to really figure out what the fuck is going on.

Ryan

You're just thinking about the cool shit going on, thinking about the cool shit going on and then I wake up the next morning you get those weird little little body feelings. You know what I mean. Then you really start processing, like what's going on, you know what I mean, to where it's like I'm not trying to sit there and dissect my brain eight hours.

Kyle

I mean that's cool, but if I really wanted to do psychedelics. They do DMT. You can go and have a DMT treatment in a hospital, essentially In Canada.

Kevin

They do that for DMT.

Kyle

It's recreational, that's fine, they can get it clean and they give you a certain amount and that's it, and they just let you fucking trip on it. If I ever did something like, that's it and they just let you fucking trip on it. It's like if I ever did something like that. I would want intention. I would want to have an idea of something I want to work through. I don't want to just do it, to do it, but see that might that might also fuck you up in the long run, because if you're trying to trying to overthink things before you actually get into it.

Ryan

The bad trips are just as good as the good trips. No, they are not. No, they are not, they're bad.

Ryan

No, no, no. Bad trips are bad. They're good for you.

Ryan

I've never had a bad trip my entire life, but I have seen many people have bad trips.

Kyle

I think they're good for you. Yeah, in the long run, maybe If you look at it that way you have the intention of working through something that you want to In a mentally and spiritually way.

Ryan

but it's a hard bridge to get over.

Kyle

Well, you just like to have fun. Man, You're a party guy.

Ryan

But with psychedelics I'm not fucking my brain up like that. If I'm not in the good mental state, I'm not taking psychedelics. That's why.

Kyle

I can't smoke. Weed Fucks me up like that. I get too anxious. I think about shit. That fucking will never happen.

Ryan

Dude, I told you about those fucking those shroom gummies that I was eating from the the smoke shop and all the psychoactive effects besides the psilocybin, I'd eat like a thousand milligrams of it Vibing out. V I'd eat like a thousand milligrams of it vibing out, vibing out. You just vibing chilling. You ain't got none of the little visuals going on big party guy over here.

Kyle

What do you mean, big party? Guy bring me some.

Ryan

Eric wants to try some. You're gonna piss me off, buddy. I told you fucking many times about these fucking things.

Erick

I know. But I also told you like maybe cause you know it's the same thing as kyle like I wish I had that too, where. Where for you, it's like you don't even think about these things, like whatever is going on your head, but no, no, no, no for me and kyle, I guess um it. It is like it's more of a mental thing.

Kyle

You can't help it.

Kevin

You can't help it, it's a mental yeah, I can't help it, so that's why I'm also like not wanting to do it well, everybody's different, but when?

Ryan

I take a tab of acid. You know what I'm saying. Last time I took it we were chilling Me and Boy were vibing out. I got some shit going on up here. I was like cancel it out.

Erick

Yeah, I wish I could do that.

Ryan

Just cancel it out. You know what I mean.

Ryan

To where it's like give me one, let's see that's the.

Kevin

The beauty of it, too, is that, uh, you know, like it's like you're saying, like you don't have to go into psychedelics like looking for a journey or an awakening or anything, you could just go into it having fun. That's perfectly fine, you definitely could do that, but it, um, it is cool that that's one of those drugs that, uh, it can be beneficial mentally, because there's some other drugs that are like only for fun no, dude, like I'm dude, like I'm kevin, I'm telling you, the last time I took a jail tab, I took one, me and my boy.

Kevin

Me and my boy both took one yeah it was fucking amazing I know like it was fucking awesome the jail tabs are strong, stronger than like paper.

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Ryan

For sure I told my boy when I left that when I left we were doing it on Saturday night. I left that Sunday. That Sunday morning I said if I would've known what the fuck was gonna happen last night, would I have taken it. Nope, I said, but I am so glad that I did. Yeah, I was tripping my fucking. I told my boy. I said I you seeing the devil? I'm like Not like that, bro. I'm like you good. I tell my next day I'm like Well, we're fine. I'm like I'm not seeing the devil. You know what I mean.

Ryan

But it's a good fucking time yeah.

Kyle

I totally get that, see, but then that always fucks me up too, cause, like Ac, it's not natural, it's man-made Shrooms go from cow shit, they go from manure. Natural Ayahuasca is natural.

Ryan

Ayahuasca is natural. Yeah, it's tree sap, it's tree sap.

Kyle

Whatever the fuck it is. I think we talked about it on one that will probably never come out. What was that project that Not very. It was when they were giving all the dudes LSD. It was Charles.

Ryan

Manson one.

Kevin

It was um what the? Fuck, was it Sunshine acid, something, but there was like a MK.

Kyle

Ultra MK.

Ryan

Ultra, MK Ultra. That's what it was, Nice nice.

Kevin

The Unabomber also was affected by that program.

Ryan

Well, yeah, they were saying Charles Manson was in with the CIA and they were coercing him to take acid and get people to take acid. They were saying that he was tripping on acid, but he wasn't tripping.

Kevin

Yep, it was that sunshine acid. And it was straight from the CIA. It was crazy.

Kyle

It's all the whole medical trial that apparently got people fucked Because they probably gave them way too much, and they fucking fried their goddamn brain.

Kevin

It's pretty crazy at that time because, again, this is the 70s, 60s era and mental health at the time was so like.

Ryan

They didn't know how to fuck a brain work. Back then they didn't give a fuck about that shit.

Kevin

They didn't know how harmful it was if you abused it like that. It was all new, new drug yeah.

Kyle

Well, it's like dude, they still do that you can go and get paid for a medical trial.

Ryan

Dude, they're saying Two days.

Kyle

Yeah, they paid like thousands of dollars for staying for 20 days have you taken? Ketamine before no man Ketamine's crazy Dude there's.

Ryan

I've never K-holed before, but they're saying apparently you can go trial on ketamine. It helps you get off alcohol and drug abuse, substance abuse, whatever the fuck it is.

Kyle

That's another one. Yeah, they say, you can go like they can administer ketamine to you.

Ryan

I've seen the videos. Help with addiction.

Kevin

That's what it's originally for Was it addiction? Yes, it's supposed to help.

Ryan

You've K-Hole before yeah.

Kevin

No, I've never used it.

Ryan

No, I wish I would have I wish I would have, I wish I would. I've never done ketamine before ketamine or dmt yeah, I do dmt.

Kevin

Um, what's funny about that one is that it's kind of like the opposite, but you get like the crazy effects of acid, but in a shorter time it's like, it's like, yeah, it's like 15, 20 minutes, but it's like a crazy, super intense trip it's like an antibody. It's like an antibody experience yeah, and you feel like you've been doing it for whoever, however long. It's like an out-of-body experience. Yeah, and you feel like you've been doing it for however long. It's like a journey in only 20 minutes.

Kyle

Isn't that the one where it's just literally like a bottle cap?

Ryan

Yeah, you and you shoot.

Kyle

And if you drink alcohol you're going to fucking OD. You can fucking die on that shit. Well, they were doing Kids.

Ryan

I knew Kids. I knew they were just putting it on top of weed and just smoking it. Yeah they dust it.

Kyle

They're putting DMT in a fucking blunt.

Ryan

No, not in a blunt In a bong ball. Oh my god.

Kevin

There's people that dust their weed with weird fucking shit. Dude, you gotta watch it. It's crazy. It's fucking crazy.

Kyle

Fentanyl right now is super like, super fucking dangerous. Well, that's the thing going on with weed right now. The whole renaissance of like like weed is natural, but all like they're fucking throwing how the fuck is a nug of weed? What's the percentage up to now? Like top shelf shit, the bullshit.

Ryan

That. So when I went to la I was in Cali Was the best shit I got Was like 35% THC.

Kyle

It's fucking insane. It's like 30. It's like 30.

Ryan

Yeah, we've come a long way Genetically that shit was also.

Ryan

It was For 3.5 grams. It was like 85 out the door.

Kyle

Yeah, damn Like 85 out the door For an eighth. Yeah, it was fucking gnarly. It was like the strength of it. How was it?

Ryan

It was awesome. It was fucking awesome it was awesome, dude.

Kevin

You don't think you got ripped off. It was like worth it for sure.

Ryan

No, it wasn't. No, no, no, because I flew back with a bunch of shit too. We flew back with. So I've been to what is it? Oregon and LA, and we flew back with so much shit every time. Nice, did they not check for that stuff? Well, I have videos on my phone to where I can show you to where I'm in Colorado, la, oregon and then I'm back in town.

Erick

How do you feel before you do that thing? Or do you feel nervous? I'm nervous.

Ryan

Nervous as fuck. Two of my boys were in there in two of the bathrooms, hiding in the bathroom stall, and I boys were in there in two of the bathrooms hiding in the bathroom stall and I was just sitting on the plane. Oh, you were chilling, I was chilling, I mean I wasn't chilling like that, but I was like bro, if they're going to catch us, they're going to catch us, you know what I mean.

Kyle

I think they're mostly their TSA, is they?

Ryan

don't want to say nothing about TSA. They don't give a fuck.

Kyle

No, they're looking for fucking bombs in your water. Bombs and guns.

Ryan

It's like, bro, if you put some shit in like a gum pack or like a fucking box of crackers.

Kyle

It's like they're not. I mean, you get through there with a fucking of views.

Ryan

No, because I remember a full on vape with like fucking batteries in it. I said no. When I was like 16, I flew through TSA going to Texas with those, the big mob, the big mob batteries. What are the?

Kyle

oh yeah, the mods, yeah, like alien 220. It was the alien 220.

Ryan

It was the. What the fuck was it called the smock?

Kyle

Oh yeah, the smock. It was the smock. The smock is the alien 220. I had that fucker. They took. They took my 220 out of my fucking bag.

Ryan

Because it was a hazard. You had a battery in it and all that I had a battery in it and all that, and the coils and the wicks.

Kyle

I miss those fucking vapes. You remember when everybody Before all the views and the jewels and all that?

Kevin

You had the big ass mob you go. Fat clouds.

Ryan

Kyle, were you on Nixie when you were in high school? Senior year, when I drank for the first time Could you imagine having these fucking things and these little flavor vapes in high school?

Kevin

That's how they do it now. It's crazy.

Kyle

It's exactly like how I am in a restaurant with my views now. Exactly, you put it under.

Ryan

You hide it. All we would do. We had the blues in high school. Oh, exactly, put it under. He's like hide it, but all we would do we had the blues in high school. Oh yeah, the disposable ones, the disposable blues. We had dip and we had the blues. So we were throwing dips in school, yeah, Throwing chars in.

Nicotine and Politics

Kyle

Fuck that Damn. I miss dipping man. That was my first ever nicotine addiction.

Ryan

What was your first dip when? What was your first dip?

Kyle

What flavor was it? It was a coat black, I think.

Ryan

Damn I was doing, mine was kayak.

Kyle

Great, yeah, that's about right. And then I went to. I went to skull green apple for a while. I got hooked and I was thrown in skull green apples and then I was a fucking big old cope wintergreen long cut, because in colorado you couldn't get cope mint, they didn't have it there. You couldn't get cope until, like my senior year. Good, coping straight either. The red can straight, they have straight. I don't like the flavor straight too sweet, it's like real sweet. It's got a weird flavor to me you're crazy but cope mint is my go-to.

Kyle

I bought a can of of Cope Mint not too long ago. Cope Mint is a laxative. For a road trip, I'll still buy a can of Chew. I still have it. I only took one out of it.

Ryan

That's a fucking laxative, that was my first love dude.

Kyle

I wanted to fuck.

Ryan

Cope Mint. Cope Mint is a laxative.

Kyle

It's fucked. All nicotine is technically a laxative. You never tried Stoker's. I've tried Stoker's. I've tried Redman, I've tried it all. Stoker's, wintergreen Stoker's is fucking disgusting. It's dry, it's cheap, you know what's fucked the cans back in the day.

Ryan

Used to be like $1.50 a can.

Kyle

They're so expensive.

Ryan

now it's like $6 a can now.

Kyle

Why don't you let Kevin talk for a little while? You're talking a little too much, buddy. Nah, I'm listening to you.

Ryan

Let our guest talk for a little bit. Ask him some questions.

Kyle

Ask him a couple questions.

Erick

Ryan, is there anything you want to know about Kevin? Did you take?

Kyle

the vaccine yeah.

Kevin

I had to for my job. Yeah, for sure. Which one did you get? I think it was.

Erick

Here we go again with this talk.

Ryan

I think it was.

Kevin

Moderna. I think you both got Moderna. I got Pfizer, yeah I didn't get that one.

Erick

I heard that one was better. Which one was the really bad one? The one that? What was it?

Kyle

Johnson, johnson, johnson Johnson, just like causing blood clots.

Ryan

Johnson, johnston and.

Ryan

Johnson yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so bad. No, I got Pfizer. I got the ball shots from Pfizer.

Kyle

I didn't take any of them. You liberal pussies, true? You cucks? Yeah, no, I just didn't. I didn't care, I didn't really care about it. It wasn't my choice, buddy, you had to see your fucking dying grandpa.

Kevin

I had to see my dying grandpa. Yeah, I think that's really who got fucked the most. Is these older folks really? Yeah, good, no, no.

Ryan

Cal slow down a little bit buddy I lost my fucking grandpa. I lost my uncle to fucking COVID.

Kyle

You lost your grandpa to old age. You did not lose him to COVID.

Ryan

No, my uncle, I said the wrong word, my uncle. How old was your uncle? 43?

Kyle

And he died of COVID. So he died of COVID, covid and double pneumonia.

Ryan

So he died of double pneumonia. Double pneumonia and COVID.

Kyle

How the fuck do you get pneumonia and then get it again While you still have it? What the fuck is double pneumonia?

Ryan

I'm not besmirching your dead uncle. Apparently, double pneumonia is when you get it in both your lungs.

Kevin

Yeah, that's what I was thinking when you get it in both your lungs and what? That's what I was thinking too when you get it in both your lungs. That's sad man.

Ryan

And what they said was this is what my mom was telling me. This is my Uncle JD. This is my dad's brother. He died from COVID and double pneumonia, but it probably was just double pneumonia.

Kyle

You've gotten COVID, we've all had.

Ryan

COVID, I had COVID, I did, I had COVID, I did, I had COVID, and then I had fucking bronchitis after that I couldn't breathe out of my nose, I couldn't taste anything, nope.

Kyle

And I had a head cold for a week.

Ryan

I was off for like fucking 10 days. I was off for two whole work weeks, covid and pneumonia. I got it again and it fucked me up.

Kyle

And it did fuck me up. I couldn't really move for two days. It did fuck me up the second time I got it, but what was fucked back then was they were everybody tested positive for covid, so any death was covid and they were skewing the. I hate to get fucking, I don't know crazy on this. I feel like they were skewing every single death during quarantine and lockdown. It was COVID.

Ryan

It was all COVID.

Kyle

They said the death was because of.

Ryan

COVID. It all was because of COVID. My uncle did not die because of COVID, it was double pneumonia. He was a bigger guy, you know what I mean. He wasn't in great shape.

Erick

The effects of COVID, wasn't it? Double pneumonia? I don't know.

Kevin

I feel like a lot of the times too, it's like it did get very political very fast. No, yeah, I think, uh, covet definitely doesn't help at all when you catch it and then you die of an illness after that. I think that's what people um get that confused because, yeah, like, like, uh, some people died of pneumonia or some illness like that and covet just like made it worse, basically because I think it did like lower your immune system.

Kyle

Yeah, that's the problem, like that. And kovat just like made it worse, basically because I think it did like lower your immune system. Yeah, that's the problem, shit like that.

Kevin

I think all diseases do.

Kyle

But especially did because, it was right, but do you know what they started? Fuck you know what they did. They stopped recording flu cases, flu deaths and flu cases the regular yearly flu that people die of every single year. Yeah, they stopped recording them during that two or three year time before so I just think there's a lot of. There was a lot of shady shit going on and I think it's carried into now. It's like we're like with all this politics of like, all, like it's on every fucking day.

Erick

It is crazy because, even like you, it almost like you can't even talk about it because it'll get flagged for whatever reason exactly.

Kevin

You know you know what I think it is like, why they would be skewing it, and I can tell you exactly why it's because it's for insurance reasons. Oh yeah and uh, getting a big check for all these people getting treated for covid with just a you know for those hospitals were getting paper Big money. And that's really all. Everything comes down to.

Ryan

It all comes down to money. My uncle died within 30 hours. Yeah, when he got COVID you mean COVID and double pneumonia. He was gone within like 30 hours. Day and a half, yeah, just about a day and a half.

Kyle

he was gone. I think pneumonia is like fucked up, isn't it? That's a fuck. Yeah, that's bad.

Ryan

Dude, every time I had gotten sick before COVID it was always the flu. I got the flu like three times Right and it was fucked up but I was fine.

Kevin

Yeah, pneumonia is like like you have like liquid in your lungs and it's like right, yeah, it's like yeah, like you like can't breathe, you're wheezy and coughing up blood or whatever it's, it's, it's fucked, it's not a good, not fun you guys.

Kyle

This is a comedy podcast. I don't know how we got here, but I don't know how we keep going back. I mean it's good shit. I just think it's like why the fuck are we arguing over fucking two 80-year-old dudes to be president keeping it that way? I was like why the fuck is everybody so?

Kevin

goddamn old I know. I wish we did have younger politicians in general.

Kyle

Because I think the law is you have to be over 40 to be president. 45.

Ryan

And you have to be living in the United States for 35 years, or at least something like that.

Erick

I'm sure they do it for a reason too.

Ryan

Yeah they do.

Erick

It deters people from even going into that Imagine if you go into that and then you have to wait 40 to become anything but see.

Kevin

I think, okay, the biggest problem I have with the presidential, like their whole term limit idea.

Ryan

Oh no, no. You're talking about yeah. Oh no, no. You're talking about the term limit. You're talking about the yeah, yeah, so the harris campaign.

Kevin

No, like, uh, no, I was gonna. I was gonna say like like it's fucked up that the presidents have like a limit but they're so powerful but yet senators also have very, almost equal to power, if you they damn near have it, but they have like term limit.

Ryan

They have no term limit.

Kevin

Yeah, they've been in there since the 80s.

Kyle

Isn't it the same with Congress? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Erick

What's the dude?

Kyle

who fucking spazzed out twice Mitch McConnell.

Ryan

Yeah, that senator dude. Have you seen the videos of when Joe Biden first Obama first came into Congress back in the 80s or 70s, whatever?

Kyle

it was. He was talking about black people and gays and shit.

Ryan

Talk black people and gay marriage.

Kevin

Yeah, we don't support that Fully against gay marriage.

Ryan

You know what I mean. I'm like bro.

Kevin

Yeah, that's politics, though they flip-flop all the time, they follow cultural trends, bro, and all it is now is a fucking.

Kyle

it's always money, like you bro, and all it is now is a fucking it's always money, like you said, it's just mostly money that's all that matters. People dudes fucking run for president mike pence is essentially running mike pence like a trump's old vp. Yeah, he announced his like presidency, like run his campaign, bro. They just do, they're never gonna win. They do it for money it money.

Ryan

It's not, it's all money. Yeah, what happened when Trump became?

Ryan

president, Tax write-offs too. What happened when Trump became?

Ryan

president, what did he do with his wages that he got from the government? It's $400,000 a year.

Kyle

Didn't mean, yeah, it was nothing to him. It was already worth fucking $100 billion he donated all of it.

Kevin

Yeah, you're not. They do have a weird critique. Whenever you become president in your own business, you do have to give it all up technically. But I think he passed it to his sons too.

Kyle

Yeah, Well, that was the whole thing. That's what really fucking turned to shit when Trump was in office. Once he got elected, it was everywhere the entire four years. Once he got elected, it was everywhere the entire four years. Fox and CNN every news station reported on Trump, every single day.

Kyle

Yeah, we became, because it used to be as soon as the election time would come up November time, whatever then people would start talking about politics and see who's running, whatever. That's how it used to be. It's every single day now. All CNN and Fox is is politics, whatever that's how it used to be.

Ryan

It's every single day now. All CNN and Fox is is politics now.

Kevin

There's no news. Cnn is fucked.

Ryan

They're all fucked. Cnn is fucked. They're all pretty fucked.

Ryan

They're all fucked.

Kyle

I agree with some liberal things and I agree with some Republican things. It's like I don't know. I don't look into it that much. I don't follow the shit that much. I believe what I believe and it is what it is. It's like the type of people who are, it's like religious people. Like hardcore Mormons For sure.

Ryan

Don't even get me started on fucking Mormons. They are the fucking worst.

Kyle

You don started on fucking Mormons. They are the fucking worst. You don't like the Mormon.

Ryan

They are the fucking worst.

Erick

The latter Don't say that.

Kyle

No no no, no, no the.

High School Experiences and Relationships

Ryan

Mormons? No, it's not even. Fuck the Mormons. Holy shit. Every single girl that I that I met in my high school run two. They're all dirty whores. They were freaks, dude. They're dirty whores. And now they all want to come back to their vows and their beliefs and all this shit.

Kyle

Well, dude, they can't even drink coffee or soda if you're like a devout Mormon no coffee, no soda, no sex before marriage.

Ryan

See you crazy. Every single bitch I met that was Mormon, drinking liquor, getting fucked up, fucking like a whore. You got me fucked up.

Kyle

Hell, no Well, I mean, that's a double edge of the sword, if you like. Grow up with very strict parents and all that shit.

Erick

You can either go crazy, I don't know, I think it's like they just so happen to be Mormon, but they were always like that, you know.

Kevin

Oh yeah, for sure, there's crazy whore type people like that aren't Mormons, that I know.

Ryan

No, they were just fucking whores, I think yeah, they were 14 years old, wanting to hang out with 18-year-olds 19-year-olds, you know what I mean Just whores.

Kevin

There's people like that in every.

Kyle

That's also the thing. It's like you grow up like that, no matter what parents you have, whatever they teach, you're either going. You're either staying exactly the course that they set or you're going fucking way off and you do something completely opposite of what your parents were trying to teach you. I feel especially in religious shit. Yeah, you know, it's like the devout, we'll just say Mormon devout, and they raise devout kids, but then one of their kids is fucking a slut, or?

Kevin

a whore.

Kyle

Yes, getting drunk and doing nothing, he's getting fucked. Not saying that Mormon people aren't normal, shaken, I guess you can't really put a. You don't have kids, right, kevin? No, you got a girlfriend.

Ryan

Fuck God damn it Me and. Kyle, how long you been seeing your fucking girl, your gash, god damn it. There you go, me and Kyle Me and Kyle are fucking double out here.

Kyle

Rizzler, how long you been seeing your fucking girl.

Kevin

Your gash. I mean, yeah, we're just talking more of a friendship so far. So, yeah, I'm not bragging about it.

Kyle

You should. You should friend zone her. Get back for all the fucking dudes that got friend zone. That's it. I got friend on for four years in high school Ooh.

Kevin

Yeah, I heard about that?

Ryan

Yeah, I know no.

Ryan

I did too. I did too. I have fun with the bag too many times.

Kevin

See, uh, my, uh. I mean, I've had bad relationships like that. So my mindset nowadays is I kind of just focus on stuff that I like to do, yeah, and then if I talk to a girl and I tell them about myself and stuff, and they're into it, and they're into it too.

Ryan

Then they're into it, it's cool. If not, fuck them, it's easy.

Kevin

Yeah, If not, it is what it is. If you really got to work on it, you know you got to put a lot of effort and you could feel like, ah, they're really not feeling it. I can tell.

Kyle

Like you just See Kyle, that's what Kyle says. You say that, but you say it in such a fucked up

Erick

way it doesn't make sense I am curious about. That is exactly how I feel.

Ryan

You articulated it in a very Let me speak for Kyle real quick.

Ryan

Speak for me, please, are you?

Ryan

and this girl, are you guys just hanging out what's going?

Kevin

on. Yeah, we're just hanging out so far. I'm kind of romancing more right now.

Ryan

I'm at that stage Nice.

Kevin

I'm keeping it cool and trying to Nice, but I'm not expecting anything. If something happens and nothing comes of it, then it's fine, it is what it is. Yeah, because it's more so like Actually.

Ryan

Let me ask you a question Is she texting you?

Kevin

Yeah, you guys like talking all day, yeah we talk, she works, she's pretty busy, she's a hygienist, but she talks pretty often my brother, my brother, my brother.

Ryan

My brother, my brother, my brother, my brother, my brother.

Kevin

God damn, she's cool. We have a lot in common, and that's really what started it Nice.

Ryan

See, I'm fucked up, but Kyle's more fucked up than I am, so we got to get Kyle into that shit.

Ryan

We got to find Kyle the bitch shit we gotta get.

Ryan

We gotta find kyle the bitch I think.

Kevin

I think kyle was was on something we do we gotta find kyle the bitch.

Kyle

Can you let our guest fucking talk, please?

Navigating Personal Growth

Kevin

he's talking no, I, I think you're that's it go on kevin continue, uh, but I I mean, I mean you're right to an extent, but more so. Kyle was on to something earlier when he said, like you know, he's trying to uh change his views in some way, and you know try to be happier, don't I think?

Ryan

I think it starts there. Don't listen to a fucking word that kyle is saying. He's talking, fucking this motherfucker.

Erick

I feel like every guest we have is a hype man for you.

Ryan

Oh my god, everybody's hyping Kyle up. Don't listen to a fucking word that Kyle has to say. He's a fucking motherfucker. He's a good dude. I love Kyle to death. I love Kyle to death, but he's a motherfucker.

Kevin

No, I yeah, that's why.

Ryan

I love him. That's why I love him.

Kevin

He's a fucking motherfucker. Kevin knows what I'm saying, though I know what you're trying to say.

Kyle

We also look very similar.

Kevin

Oh yeah, kind of, we also look very similar. It might be related, man. Our brand names start with a K. We're pretty much brothers.

Ryan

Yeah, long lost. Colorado to Florida, buddy.

Kevin

You don't have a weird brother over there. Maybe that's you, man. You don't have a weird brother over there. Maybe that's you, man. I do think healthy relationships and stuff like that does come from. You got to have a good foundation for yourself.

Kyle

You have to be comfortable with yourself to know what you like or what you don't like.

Ryan

Why are?

Ryan

you not comfortable with yourself? What are you talking about, are you not?

Kyle

comfortable with yourself? I'm comfortable with myself, but I know there's things that I need to change.

Ryan

Why what do?

Kyle

you need to change about yourself. You like me how I am?

Ryan

Yes, I just told you that the whole fucking last pod. You're fine, buddy, you're an asshole. That's why I like you, you want a kiss.

Kyle

No, I don't want to kiss.

Ryan

No, I'm telling you you all sound like you're coming out. You say you like the way. You're all fucking squirreled up your fucking brain right now.

Kyle

Well, no, it's like, yeah, you put on like people from the outside, see, but I always say life, life is selfish, life is selfish as a bitch. Can you please not talk over me? Shut your goddamn mouth for two goddamn seconds. You're trying to. I'm trying to turn a new leaf here and you're making it really fucking hard.

Ryan

I'm making sure that you're not turning this fucking new leaf, because I can't deal with the fucking, the sensitive Kyle.

Erick

I can't deal with this fucking guy. So that's where you have the issue I can't deal with this fucking guy, ryan doesn't like to go deep.

Kyle

I do like to go deep. I do like to go deep.

Ryan

No, you don't Okay well hear him out, then Hear him out.

Kyle

I'm hearing you out, I'm hearing you out Same on an essential baseline level Life is selfish.

Kevin

True.

Kyle

Yeah, thank you guys. Yes, but because you don't know how anybody else is thinking. You're the only person even if you've been, like Eric, been with your girl for a very long time, you never know what they're thinking really or what's going on with them internally, cause nobody is 100% open with themselves to the outside world. You're the only person you know 100% and you know what makes you feel good, what you're doing right, what you're doing wrong, what you need to change. Like life is selfish in that way where you need to make sure I feel like you're good, like you feel good with yourself and comfortable with everything going on inside of you, to be able to like for for other people to perceive that from you. Do you know what I mean? Yes, otherwise it's fake.

Ryan

No, I agree with you 100%.

Kevin

Yeah, 100%. You know, I was telling Eric about this one time, but there was a Japanese philosopher who came up with this idea that all people in general, like we put on five faces, and one of them is the face you put on for your co-workers like five face persona.

Ryan

I've seen this before. Yeah, the five face persona.

Kevin

Yeah so for people you work with your family, close family, and then you have like a one you have for yourself, and then there's another one that I forgot, but yeah there's, there's like a. I do think people think that way. But once you can find the real you not to sound so hippie and shit, but once you can figure out what shit you like, like everything clicks from there.

Ryan

But I love you. Kyle, I'm going to tell you this your problem is you don't talk to people. You don't talk to people.

Erick

Let that sink in Let it sink in, let it sink in.

Ryan

Am I wrong? Am I wrong?

Erick

Let's keep letting it sink in.

Ryan

You talk to people too much, that's fine, I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree with that. The only person I talk to that much is Eric. We both have faults. We both have faults.

Kevin

Hey, only person I talked to that much is eric. We both have faults.

Erick

We both have faults, like, hey, we all do, yeah, we all do, everybody has faults, but you're you're. I will say something though, ryan, for you, because you know how you always have that. Sometimes it is like you can talk to different friends or family members a different type of way, like for some people you feel more comfortable talking to. Like me and ryan have talked about a lot of shit like, yeah, and I know you'll never, ever say it to anyone else, so it's no, so he does get down deep, but it's like he'll never do that probably with you.

Kevin

Yeah, it's the same thing we were just saying yeah, yeah, everyone has different faces for different groups and everything. Yeah, it's.

Kyle

That's just kind of how we're wired you look at eric differently than you look at me, and no, I do not.

Ryan

No, I do not. I have talked to you about some fucked up ass shit. Some fucked up ass shit, buddy.

Kevin

That you wouldn't share with Eric.

Ryan

Yes, no that's not true, no, I've told Eric a lot of crazy ass. I've told Eric and Brianna a lot of crazy ass shit.

Ryan

You tell them everything you tell me.

Ryan

You gotta talk to people, dude. If you go, okay I'll agree.

Kyle

I'm an introvert at heart.

Ryan

I get it from my mom If you're stuck in a rut, you don't know what's going on. Just fucking talk to somebody. Just talk to somebody. Just talk to somebody, buddy, that's all it is. I'm not here to judge you at all. Are you a motherfucker? Yes, 100,000%. That's why I love you. That's why I love you.

Kyle

Jesus, what did this podcast turn into?

Ryan

That's what.

Erick

I'm saying you got Ryan on a deeper level, man. No, you got.

Ryan

Ryan on a deeper level. Man Kyle was like you don't want to ever go deep. Yes, you have to fucking talk to people, buddy. That's how me and Erica got to where we are. That's true.

Kyle

Okay, we talk to each other about a lot of shit, I'm not very outward with my feelings and how I feel. I'm very much internal in how I think and how I go about this world. I'd rather be alone, and but that's but see, that's what I'm. It's the same thing for everyone, though it's like you're still trying to figure that out. It's like it's not I can't. It's not me going out and just talking to everybody. I know it's gonna change shit it's not.

Comfort in Solitude vs. Seeking Connection

Ryan

I mean it's not, it's not, it's not. But I agree with you because I'm on the same thing you are. I want to be by myself majority of the time, which is comfortable. I'm comfortable being by myself.

Kyle

You know what I mean. You got to get comfortable being uncomfortable. That's the only thing I took from wrestling.

Ryan

You're preaching to the choir right now, my brother.

Ryan

You're preaching to the choir, but your problem is you got to talk to people, dude?

Ryan

You have to just not even talk to people. If you have to just Not even talk to people, if you're going through some shit, you have to let a motherfucker know.

Kyle

Yeah, but that's all it is. But then on some level I feel like that's like Bro, it's like I can figure I'm a man.

Ryan

I'm a dog.

Ryan

I can figure it out. Man, that's not what I can figure my own shit out. See, I agree with you, okay. Okay, what are you talking? Listen, I love how you just said that, because I'm on the same thing. But when you're going through some shit, you're going through some shit, you have to talk it out. That's all it is.

Kyle

I understand. I've always Made it through when I think I'm fucking. When we broke, we're broke. It's like I can always find my like way through all that shit. It was like without cause I I have. I have a weird thing of being like I'm not going to ask. I've haven't asked my parents for money in a long time, like I hate. I have a block where I hate asking for things.

Ryan

We've talked about this before. I hate doing that.

Kyle

I hate feeling like I am owing somebody something or I need somebody to do something for me. 100% I can figure it out myself and I can do that yeah.

Ryan

I understand.

Kyle

That's definitely like a block for me, I guess.

Ryan

No, no, no, I understand what you're saying, but Even before you get to that point, you gotta talk about it. This is all it is.

Kevin

Just talk about it, buddy see, I think, I think you guys are on the right track, but I I think he does need to talk about it. But the the thing is kyle has to really find someone he could like talk to someone like on a deeper level is what you're looking for. You can talk to 100 people and that won't really change anything. But if you find one really good person that could really help you figure stuff out in your mind like a companion or someone deeper A really hot slut, oh yeah.

Ryan

I hate the companion word you don't like companions.

Ryan

It's not a companion really hot slut.

Erick

Oh yeah, I hate the companion word. Oh yeah, you don't like companions. It's not a companion. Kevin, be careful with what you say. I agree with everything. What?

Ryan

you're saying but me and Kyle are fucking dolo out here in this world. You know what I mean we're fucking dolo. I talk, just keep it to yourself, man, are we not dolo?

Kyle

Don't it to yourself, man. Are we not dolo? Don't bring me into your bullshit.

Ryan

Are you not as dolo as I am?

Kyle

Just because we don't have girlfriends.

Ryan

Yes.

Kyle

He's just relating.

Ryan

See, no, I'm saying. That's why I understand. I agree with everything. You're just saying 100,000%, 100,000%. But do I have somebody that I can rely on besides my mom? No, but do I have somebody that I can rely on besides my mom? No, yeah, with you right.

Kevin

Well, I think everyone's different too, like you know, like some people can get through mental things without help, like you guys are saying, like they can just pull through it, but there are some people that do need a little bit of help, and it's not the fault of anyone, it's just you know, it's like a wiring thing in your brain and you know everyone's different in that way. So, like I know you guys are boys, like you're saying, but Kyle might be looking for you know just another person to talk to on a deeper, deeper level. Like I know you guys are already deep, you know, like you're saying, but maybe he wants you know more people too, you know.

Kyle

What do you want to? Do you want to? I don't know, I don't listen to Kevin. No, I'm here with Kevin. He's hitting it right.

Ryan

Dude, I'm agreeing with him. 100,000%, 100,000%.

Kyle

He's articulating what I can't.

Kevin

But Exactly, but like, but, like you're saying, like you don't really Do you need, like comfort, like a structure, no, Some kind of no.

Ryan

Okay, I'm not like that at all.

Ryan

No, Okay, he's a party boy.

Ryan

I'm not a party boy. I'd rather just like to the point, to where I'm at in my life right now. I'm just good being by myself. That's good.

Kevin

Yeah, that's great, I'm just good being Dolo you know what I mean, See, and that's great, man Like you're able to be independent in that way. That's great for the mental fortitude. But you know, for some people like Kyle, and that's normal, Just trying to find a deeper thing, he's trying to figure it out, I guess, in a weird hippie kind of way.

Ryan

No, it's not a weird hippie kind of way. No, it is, it's not.

Ryan

It's not it's not.

Kevin

It's not Kyle needs to talk, but he doesn't like to fucking talk. No, I get your frustration, though.

Ryan

No, because it's like you know what I'm saying? No, hold on, Hold on. Let me just break it down. Let me break it down. No, no, no Hold on.

Erick

Okay, I know where you're coming from. You're saying he doesn't like to talk, it right? No, Kyle doesn't like talking it. It's not comfortable.

Ryan

You can talk to me about anything, motherfucker, I don't fucking care, I don't fucking care, you just want you to be the person I talk to.

Kevin

Yeah.

Ryan

That's not what I said. I'm not here to talk to you. The person I talk to is this motherfucker right here you want to be my companion. No, it's not, I don't want to be your companion.

Kyle

But if you are fucking, carlos is a companion. That's what it is. Carlos is my companion. Carlos is your companion. Nah, man, I don't talk about Like my real shit with y'all. Why, fuck you? Why Don't wanna? Why? It's literally like we brought Like a therapist on here. Why?

Ryan

Why I never wanted to, too Me and Eric have talked about Some crazy ass shit before. Okay, spilling the beans, that's good. I never wanted to, too Me and Eric have talked about some crazy ass shit before Spilling the beans, just having some good talks.

Kyle

I think that's good for your guys' relationship.

Ryan

What the fuck, is it for our relationship? Then, buddy, what is that? Jerry what do you think, Jerry Kyle? We're not chilling all this week. We're not chilling all this week, Hanging the fuck out. That's all we were doing.

Kyle

You're not understanding.

Ryan

We think differently, we do different shit. I'm understanding what you're saying.

Kyle

You're not fully grasping it, though You're not understanding.

Ryan

You're not understanding what I'm trying to say.

Kyle

I think I am.

Ryan

Not at all, buddy, tell me.

Kyle

Say something funny though.

Ryan

You are such a bottle Like you're like a bottle that you find on the beach Like the waves come in. I find a bottle With a note in it. Oh, that's a note.

Kyle

Oh, I'm a message in a bottle, message in a bottle. Great song, great song. That's a great song, great song.

Ryan

Yeah, you know what I mean. You just don't like Talking about shit, and I don't understand why. Because you always say what do you always say? You said you're not my friends, you're my coworkers, you're my coworkers Fact. What are we doing right here, buddy? What are we doing right now?

Kevin

See, you know, what's funny is? You're basically like trying to figure out why an introvert's an introvert. It's just one of those things.

Ryan

Kyle's playing the fiddle right now.

Kevin

Oh okay, kyle is, we can just change the topic.

Ryan

We're not changing this fucking topic because I'm fucking picking Kyle's brain right now.

Erick

We gotta ask our guests some questions. We have to ask our guests questions.

Ryan

I'm glad Kevin's here. I'm fucking glad he is, because Kevin's asking questions that I would not want to ask Kyle.

Erick

Ask away to Kevin. Kyle is not an introvert. Kyle is not a fucking introvert.

Ryan

Kyle is an extrovert hiding inside an introvert's body.

Erick

Kyle, just agree to that. Agree, I agree.

Ryan

Kyle, if you go out to the bar, are you going to be a weirdo and be like, Just agree?

Kyle

No, I'm not going to be like that, exactly.

Ryan

So you're an extrovert.

Kyle

I'm a fucking, I'm a, I'm a.

Ryan

You're a dog.

Kyle

We're all dogs. What's a ghoul to a goblin bro?

Ryan

Exactly.

Erick

Thank you. There you go, there you go.

Ryan

Thank you.

Erick

Thank, thank you, thank you. He's such a fucking motherfucker Sometimes it's hard to crack an egg.

Ryan

I keep banging on it See.

Kevin

I know, Kevin, I love Kyle to death.

Ryan

No, I can tell, I love all three of these motherfuckers to death, but this motherfucker, sometimes he just does not like the. He's a fucking motherfucker. Kyle Douglas Stewart. I'll say it on the air KDS.

Kyle

Are you trying to fucking dox me right now?

Ryan

I am trying to dox you right now, Because you're a motherfucker dude. We're not chilling this week. We're not hanging the fuck out. That's what I'm trying to say. We're not hanging out.

Kyle

I will, like Eric said, I will say yes, we'll change topics right now.

Ryan

Rewind Back to before you were Such a fucking pussy.

Kyle

Oh god, here we go. Oh, here we go Back to before you were.

Ryan

Kyle's back in the dickhead, kyle.

Kyle

A pussy worrying about my feelings. Bro, don't worry about my fucking feelings, you just worry.

Ryan

You just worry me sometimes, you do, you do. You worry me sometimes how?

Kyle

Should I say I'm gonna kill myself?

Ryan

Not even that, because I've told you that many times, I'm gonna fucking kill myself what all right.

Erick

When's the last time you've been to a concert?

Ryan

it's been a while, buddy would you? Go see. I gotta go pee I also have to piss.

Kyle

I was hoping you guys would keep it going. No, no, keep it going go one at a time.

Erick

All right, I'll go, I'll go first. No, you fucker, all right. So when's the when's the last time you went to a concert?

Kyle

Me and my stepdad went to a Fleetwood Mac cover band in Daytona. It was for like a memorial. Not memorial, it was like a veteran service. They were handing out awards for veterans in the community. They were actually pretty fucking good. The main lady sounded pretty similar to stevie nicks. That's cool, but it had me. It did make me think is like these cover bands are just like they sound, like they just play like kind of bullshit gigs, ripping off other people's shit. Like kind of made me feel weird, as like thinking about all those cover bands who just cover other people's shit.

Erick

But I mean I don't. I mean, I see what you're saying, but it's also like they're also playing homage to them. Like imagine, I've never heard of that band and I pull up and they're playing that, right, but then again it is a show about that. So I'd have to obviously know what that's what and it was like she was dressed up exactly like Stevie Nicks.

Kyle

There was no deviation from the source material. They did it exactly that way. It just made me feel weird about cover bands like that.

Kevin

Yeah, I think cover bands have to license a lot of the music too.

Kyle

So the bands that originally wrote the pieces are getting paid for it in some way. Even is that just if they like, record it, like if they record it and put it?

Kevin

out. No, you're performing it too, really, yeah, you're supposed to pay like a fee, like a, like a. What do they call that? Like a royalty? Yeah, royalties yeah, you do pay if you want to be legit. I mean you can have like a backyard, whatever, and that's probably fine. But if you get caught then you get fined and all that legal stuff. But yeah, so they do get some kickbacks, you're right that's good.

Kyle

I just thought about like how weird of a life is that to just be like it's strange yeah it's like it feels like not very creative, I guess.

Erick

How do you think the like on uh, what's it new york on the strip, what do they do? Dress up like? Uh, yeah, those guys, they, they dress up as what buzz lightyear uh, yeah, they're all, yeah, like that's what they do like, that's the version of you know doing a cover it just seems like such a weird fucking life to me yeah, it's like a I don't know.

Kevin

I think it's more of a passion thing. They just like yeah, I'm bringing their favorite. Think it's more of a passion thing.

Kyle

They just like yeah, I'm bringing their favorite artist, I guess so you would, you would hope, yeah, I would hope that it was that imagine they just hate it.

Kevin

They're like fuck, I hate this song, dude, why do?

Kyle

I making fucking. Yeah, I should have went to college what? You go to a lot of concerts, though, I'm sure yeah, I've been to a few.

Kevin

I've been to a lot, a lot, but I've been to a few. I've had a lot of, a lot of good shows, some indie bands who's the biggest person you've seen?

Kyle

I know eric's been to fucking travis scott and shit um the biggest person I've seen so far is uh.

Kevin

I went to a show in boca and it was uh, it was a few bands. It was a emo like metalcore kind of sound and it was a few bands. It was emo metalcore kind of sound and it was Pierce the Veil and Don Bronco and some other sludgy, more metal bands. What was the other band? I think Pierce the Veil is probably the biggest I've seen.

Kevin

I've heard of Pierce the Veil. They're pretty good if you like emo kind of stuff my sister's favorite band so we went to go see them and it was cool, it was fun, a lot of goth chicks and stuff. That's what I really like about like just concerts in general. It's cool people to meet you bump into and you're like the same interests, like you can make friends if you you know are cool yeah, I don't know.

Kyle

That's what I've always found weird about concerts. It's like are you there to like? Hang out or like actually listen to the artists, like performing.

Ryan

We're supposed to go to a concert at night, your brothers or brothers friends?

Kevin

oh yeah, what kind of ass I have to listen to that you showed me yeah, they gotta get a new lead vocalist damn

Erick

like that that shit is I want. I did want to go. So who, what? What is this?

Kyle

I mean I feel like those underground shits are pretty fun. They'd be fun to go to.

Kevin

I've been to some really small bars and if it's a good band and they know how to do, no, it was in downtown Woodland, by the way. Like it's cool man. Yeah, some local people are pretty good, but you know, yeah, there's always going to be bad.

Erick

You never know Good or bad.

Kevin

That, yeah, there's always going to be bad. You never know Good or bad. That's kind of the fun of it too, especially if you live in a really cool area that has a scene of some kind Like just bars and stuff.

Ryan

Kevin, I was telling Eric I said I could have got us on the fucking guest list, we could have got in for free.

Erick

Then that was supposed to happen tonight. That was tonight. Oh man Dang.

Ryan

Yeah so it was it was Cartier with the Chalk Tiger and Six Dogs and more what kind of music is it? It's fucking I don't. I mean, I don't really listen to them like that and they're all like local, like yeah.

Ryan

I'm from Jacksonville, well, you like, you went to what you're from Jacksonville.

Kevin

I'm from Jacksonville yeah there's this one indie group from there that's really good Flip Turn. You ever heard of that band or know anything about that?

Ryan

No, I know. All I know is Chalk.

Kevin

Tiger. Oh yeah, it's all just Chalk Tiger. Yeah, those guys actually came to St Pete not too long ago and they're really good live. They're probably one of the best bands to come out that I've seen indie Shoot.

Erick

Ryan goes to what was the last country. You went to Blueface. You heard of Blueface.

Ryan

Blueface, yeah, yeah, blueface, yeah.

Erick

I went to Blueface, blueface, jackboy and where Orlando it was a good time Somewhat. What happened?

Ryan

Just a lot of people and cops and shit. Not good things. No, it was like 2019.

Erick

Oh, really To go see Blueface, yeah, yeah.

Ryan

How much were?

Erick

the tickets Like 10 bucks a piece.

Ryan

Did you go with a couple friends? No, I went with my 2X's before. This is my.

Kevin

XX See, that's the other thing about concerts Blueface concert was in a fucking warehouse.

Kyle

It was in an empty warehouse.

Ryan

No, it was. No, it was in one of the little. We wanted to go see the gun show or whatever. Yeah, it was in there.

Kyle

There was like 10 people in there.

Ryan

That's cool.

Kyle

Fucking wild.

Ryan

Hold on. This is 2019. Yeah you'll have to send that video to Eric.

Kevin

I do like small scenes like that. Yeah, you'll have to send that video to Eric. I do like small scenes like that, especially when they're cheap. Tickets are cheap Because that's the other thing that sucks about concerts, man, Especially bigger shows. It's hard to get tickets and if you do, they're fucking expensive.

Kyle

Yeah, everybody buys them out and they fucking scalp them.

Kevin

Yeah, and they scalp them, or.

Ryan

Ticketmaster fucking they just got hacked again recently yesterday Taxing like a motherfucker.

Kevin

There's like issues like that. And yeah, there was a band I wanted to see like a few weeks ago Sleep Token, and they're like this newer metal band and they finally came to the US for the first time and they were going to be in Tampa and I got on the like because I listened to him so much on spotify I was able to get on like a special, like vip, to get a ticket first. But even those tickets were like to get it first, like it was like 160 dollars for like fucking shitty seats. It sucked the fuck. Yeah, there's like, and that's that's why I was like fuck dude, it's hard to see like big bands anymore, like and don't. That's why I was like fuck dude, it's hard to see big bands anymore and don't pay for it so much yeah, I remember the biggest one I went to was Red Rocks in Colorado.

Kyle

Pretty big venue for any band. It's like a fucking dope-ass outdoor amphitheater and I saw Tim McGraw there, cool and he was fucking tight. But we paid like $220 for general admission yeah yeah to get in there.

Kyle

And then the other person I saw a disclosure at red rocks as well. That's cool. Disclosure was actually tight as fuck. I bet that sounds cool. Yeah, I didn't think I'd like it, but that one was fucking sick. Tim McGraw, just me and my boys we were. It was like senior year in high school and we were just trying to get the people in front of us to buy us beer. The entire time we were just trying to convince them. She was like a school teacher and she was like, well, she was already fucked up, did she? Yeah, she bought us all a beer, nice, gave us money. Yeah, she bought us all a beer, nice, give her the money. But like it took like fucking two hours and kept trying because she was like I'm just a t, I'm a teacher, I can't do that for you.

Kyle

Like there's no way. Like fucking, get us a beer lady.

Erick

Fuck, we did get beers at some point when do you remember the first time you ever drank a beer?

Kyle

not a beer. The first time I got drunk was that Tim McGraw concert. Oh really, that's cool.

Ryan

Senior year is the first time you got drunk.

Kyle

First time I got drunk, first time I tried nicotine, first time I did everything was senior year. I was a fucking straight lace man Going to the gym. I competed.

Kevin

Yeah.

Kyle

Bodybuilding my junior year.

Ryan

First time I got drunk.

Kyle

Was four locos how old 14.

Ryan

That's about right what do you mean that's about?

Kyle

right. I feel like it just kind of messed up with your brain. I was smoking cigarettes in middle school.

Kevin

Dang, how'd you get those as friends?

Ryan

As friends.

Kyle

Yeah, you were hanging out with 22 year olds.

Ryan

No, I was hanging out because this was before the fucking nicotine laws changed. I was 14 hanging out with 18 year olds. Yeah back when I was 18. When I was 18. I lived the high life for like two years, 18 to 20. Get everything I wanted besides alcohol.

Kyle

Then they changed it, then they changed it.

Ryan

Then they changed it To 21 for nicotine Fucking bullshit. What do you mean? What do you mean? It's fucking bullshit, man.

Kyle

Yeah, I don't get ID'd for beer, but they have to scan your ID for any nicotine product. Why it's like is that why I've never? Yeah, it's weird that they don't have to ID you for alcohol, but they have to for nicotine At any. They don't have to id you for alcohol, but they have to for nicotine at any gas station, at least here in florida.

Kyle

Yeah, it's like, I don't know. I've fucking never hit a vape and wanted to drive 110 miles an hour down the freeway. No, it's like, but I'll fucking drink a 12 pack and fucking do it. I've never done that. My fucking car can't go that fast.

Ryan

What are you talking about?

Kyle

But people do fucking. They'd rather you drunk drive than drive with a lit cigarette.

Ryan

Yeah.

Kyle

Fucking pussies.

Ryan

They'd rather you drunk drive than drive high.

Kyle

I'm going to storm the Capitol again Again.

Ryan

Wait, wait. You were a part of that. You were part of that. You were part of that.

Kyle

I look like a couple of the dudes out there.

Ryan

They all went to federal prison? Yeah, they went to.

Kevin

They all went to prison. Dang, if we put some face paint on you and some horns man, you kind of Get like a fucking, yeah, the fucking Spartan shield and some horns, some Viking, fucking shit, some Viking.

Ryan

Yeah, have we always said that you descend from or ascend from, ascend Descend, descend from A Viking Something.

Kyle

It has to be, it has to be. I'm gonna be. It's just in my blood, man.

Ryan

Has your family done the?

Kyle

23andMe shit. No, give my blood to the Fucking Government Cause I'm my mom did it. Done the 23andMe shit. No, give my blood to the fucking government Cause.

Ryan

I'm, my mom did it. That's from my mom's side. I'm Irish, russian, scottish, german, polish. Damn, you're no no, no, no, Not Polish, scottish, you're a fucking mutt. And then English.

Ryan

Nah, I'm just white boy.

Kevin

Gross. Did you get percentages to like on what? Yeah, my mom got all of them.

Ryan

Yeah, but that's just my mom. I got to do one for my dad too.

Kyle

Well, you just do one and then it's all there.

Ryan

OK.

Ryan

OK.

Kevin

You know, you know it's funny is the percentages are super different for siblings, even like parents, like they're like one percentage, but then the you think like siblings would be closer, but they're actually not. Like, uh, you could have a brother that's more like polish or something than you?

Erick

how many siblings do you have, kevin?

Kevin

uh, I have one, there's one. No, I have more. My dad is a hoe, so he has more, that I my dad was a hoe never really talked to my dad was a hoe too.

Ryan

I have rip yeah, so I have a few technically, I have three older brothers and a younger sister.

Kyle

Dang, but your dad's dead.

Ryan

Now he is dead. He died in 2002. Dickhead, thanks for asking.

Erick

That's the old Kyle back he got to see the towers.

Ryan

Come on man, I don't, I don't.

Kyle

He saw the towers. He doesn't even remember the date.

Ryan

No, he died, no, no, no. He died 13 days before the towers. He didn't see the towers. No, he died in 2002 God damn it. End of August, and my dad died in August.

Kyle

Everybody needs to see the towers. No, do you show what?

Ryan

they did, bro. You show Black Ops, black Ops, call of Duty 6 right.

Erick

The 9-11 shit. Wait, what Was that? Fucked Back up, black up, black up, black up. It sounded like A Chief Keef thing.

Kyle

They are bringing Fucking. They're trying to put 9-11 into Ryan's tapped out Of the podcast now.