13. How I lost over 200 pounds | Kim Greer (50)

In this "How I Did It" episode, Kim Greer shares her transformative weight-loss journey. Coming from Afro-Caribbean roots, where "food is love," Kim reached 396 pounds. After losing 120 pounds through motivation and mindset, she sought counseling and underwent gastric sleeve surgery to reach her goals. Down over 200 pounds, Kim reveals the key habits that have helped her maintain her weight loss, offering practical tips to inspire anyone looking to reclaim their health.

Topics:
00:00 Bill introduces guest Kim Greer.
02:55 Kim's Afro-Caribbean upbringing impacts food relationships.
05:20 2018: Kim prioritizes health, inspired by grandmother.
07:47 Kim discusses gastric sleeve surgery, mindful eating.
12:25 Exercise journey: early struggles to gradual strength.
17:13 Counseling helps Kim with emotional eating.
21:54 Kim’s balanced eating habits and meal prep.
26:43 Kim’s adaptable daily exercise routine.
31:23 Kim advises on goals and self-accountability.

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Bill Jollie (00:00.354)
Growing up in an Afro-Caribbean household, food was love. You know, when people love you, they cook for you. And not eating food was an insult. And they loved me so much that I just ate and ate and And even as a young child, just really chubby, really obese, into adulthood, I soared up to 396 pounds. That was the heaviest that I was. And I just felt horrible.

Bill Jollie (00:33.166)
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50 meals are donated for every item sold to the nation's largest hunger relief network. So you get to look good while feeling good. Now onto today's episode. everyone, it's Jolly here with Interrupts Hunger. Thanks for joining us again. We've got a how I did it this week with Kim Greer. Kim, welcome to the show. Thanks Jolly, happy to be here. Hey cool, I've been looking forward to today. So you've got a really neat story.

You've been on quite the journey for a while and thanks for sharing that with us today. So let's just dive into it. Why don't you just start by telling us a little bit about your family dynamics and work dynamics. So anybody listening, somebody listening might be able to say like, my gosh, this person I'm listening to right now is just like me. So yeah, what's your family work dynamics like? Well, let's see. We're up in an Afro-Caribbean family. Mom is from the Caribbean. Dad is from Mississippi.

Let's see, I have one child married when I was really young, 18, and worked for a farm company in, based out of the Midwest. lived in the Midwest my entire life. So we are big eaters. So food is love here in the Midwest and there is a lot of it. Chicago specifically, Chicago style pizza, hot dogs. So that's what we know and that's what we love. That's fantastic. It keeps you warm during this cold.

Bill Jollie (02:54.925)
Where there's a lot of years yet. So why don't you just, start us on this, this journey to, better health. Why don't you take us back as far back as you want to go and, just kind of tell us what it was like. struggling with weight, struggling with health up until your why happen. And I say that like everybody that I've talked to that's lost really any, any sizeable amount of weight has, has some type of why it was like a.

a switch that was flipped that just made everything from that point forward just different. So yeah, why don't you start us with your journey. So growing up in an Afro-Caribbean household, food was love. You know, when people love you, they cook for you and not eating food was an insult. And they love me so much that I just ate, and even as a young child, just really chubby, really obese into adulthood.

I soared up to 396 pounds. That was the heaviest that I was. And I just felt horrible. And I was around people, you know, my grandparents, I grew up with my grandparents. And even though they cooked and cooked and cooked and ate and ate, they were not large people. I'm like, how does this happen? At any rate, my grandmother was just a, she had just sexual diabetes with her last child. And I remember her saying to me one day, she goes, I don't want you to be diabetic. She goes, you have to do something. And I was like, okay, so when in lots of bad diet, know, slim fast was a thing.

70s baby. when I was growing up, I did every diet known to man and would lose, you know, 10 or 15 pounds. was like, I did it. And then I would eat again. you know, the 10 to 15 pounds, I gained back 18. So it was like, it was all null and void. And so I had to take control of something. So even when I was in college, you know, just kind of the yo-yo dieting back and forth, up and down, and just felt so winded, like going upstairs, you know, I just couldn't do it anymore.

And bad needs and not being able to have the quality of life that I wanted. So there were just a lot of things, a lot of triggers that for me over the years, just kind of. Face sensors were like, you gotta do something. Cause if you don't do something, you're not going to be around to enjoy life as you know it. So I said, all right. So in 2018, I started a Weight Watchers program. I had done Weight Watchers before. And I had done it with, you know, some girlfriends in college. And of course, when you're in college, there's the weekends where you binge.

Bill Jollie (05:20.833)
You know, on pizza and beer and all the other junk food that's out there. But when I got older, of course, you know, being able to have access to more money and things like that, healthier eating was an option for me. So in 2018, I got serious. And again, remember those words of my grandmother. And she, my grandmother died in 2010. I'm a maternal grandmother that raised me. And so in 2018, I took a vow that I'm going to do this for her, my grandma, Ellen.

I said, I'm going to lose the weight. So in 20, at 2018, I did a weight lockers and I lost 120 pounds in maybe 14 months. my gosh. Yeah. It was about portion control. I was eating entirely too much. You know, it's like, they taught you about the size of your piss makes certain that, know, that three ounces of meat and that type of thing. And I then started falling in love with exercise. You know, the movement became easier. Obviously when you have less weight to move, it becomes easier to.

And a move got into things like running, but at that point, my knees were so shot from carrying the extra weight, but I still did it anyhow. So I was out there on that track and I was like, I got to move. And so for me, I had this whole movement that I did called the move it a generation that I had some girlfriends and I get out on that track at four 30 in the morning and we get out there. And if it took us, you know, an hour and a half to do two miles, whatever. And then of course it became faster and faster. And then I started running.

And it just became invigorating. even though I had the pain and which I still have in my knees, there was just something about it's Just that burst of energy that it gives me that it gave me and it's like for me to be able just to move. Yeah. You were pounds. So I've lost over 200 pounds. I've lost actually 200 plus pounds, but I just feel like a new person. It's just life for me. And here, 2018, I lost 120 pounds or so. I still hadn't lost enough.

And so I had a gastric process. So it's called a BSG vertical sleeve gastrectomy. So your stomach is about the size of a football. And so I had it down. So it's the size of a banana. You know, one of the things I've learned about that gastric surgery is not, you know, it's all, and I'm just like, it has to be there. Like, no, your stomach can stretch it as a muscle. can stretch. so I had to the weight off since then. So I lost about another hundred pounds or so, with the process.

Bill Jollie (07:46.495)
And so again, it was kind of a learning curve because at that point there are certain things you can't eat. There are things that make you sick, you know, and again, with your stomach being reduced in size, once you eat too much, you feel the effects of it. So that whole process was a mind shift for me because you want to get the proper nutrients in at this point, because your stomach doesn't absorb nutrients the way that it did previously. me, let me ask you. So you, you said that some foods you can't eat. Talk to us about that.

it's just, everyone's different as how the gastric process works. like for example, I can't process chicken and it's just the texture of chicken. I don't know why, but my body doesn't like it. So I stay away from it. things that are tough, like I don't eat beef. So I do a lot of fish and things that are moist. so I'm pretty much apkaterian.

I will eat chicken at some points, but it has to be very, very moist chicken. So I'll never eat a chicken breast or anything like that. Chicken salad. can do things like that. So just kind of figure out what I eat. And really for me, getting the veggies in first and I get in some protein. So let me go back to just a little bit. So your grandma talked to you, gave you those, those words back in 2010 and then 2018.

was, was really the turning point for you. What, what was it in 2018 that that changed? So I was told by my physician that I, my physician sent me to an orthopedic surgeon because my knees were so shot. And they said that I needed knee replacement surgery. And they said, because of my age, I'm, I'll be 51 this year.

So I don't know how old I was in 2018, but it was too early for me to have knee replacement surgery. Of course we can do it. said, but you're going to need it again. And I'm like, why? They're like, you knee replacement surgeries only last so long. And they said, you know, I would suggest that you lose some weight. And I'm just like, yeah, I've been hearing that my whole life. said, well, you have to take a break. And if I had, you know, to point I had so many like synvisc, it's a gel injection, like cortisone.

Bill Jollie (10:04.301)
So I've had that injections and that type of thing, and they don't like to do that too much for the pain, basically. I mean, even walking upstairs was painful. And so I'm like, this is ridiculous. And I need to do something and take control of my health. know, you don't want people are like, I'll take the stairs. I'm like, I'll take the elevator. I really wanted to take control of that. It's like embarrassment and shame. know, like you're just going to the second floor and you're like, my knees hurt so bad. was just like, by the time you actually go around to get the elevator.

You know, the people that you were with, they're already in the room, you know, if you're holding a meeting and I'm like getting up here, like, what room are we in again? And so it was just like, I'm going to be able to, you know, jet up those stairs as well. It's, you, you mentioned about the difficulty of exercising with obesity. I have to admit, like, once upon a time I would.

I would look at somebody with obesity and just think like, don't you just like walk? it took a while for me to really understand like, just walking hurts, just move hurts, just so much of like hurts. you can't start with exercise. You really have to start with your diet or medications or surgery or something like that to get some of that weight off.

to make it manageable, to make the pain manageable for exercise. So I think that's an important point for folks listening to hear. I remember hearing that weight is lost in the kitchen first, right? It's really about you changing your mindset and about how you eat. Because truly, for me, when I started, once upon a time, was scuffling that water and that full feeling, and then just starting to have the portion control and eating less and actually feeling better. Cause when you see that,

scale and the number going down, I think you're encouraged. And then once you start, even if you only lost 10 pounds, you're like, wow, 10 pounds. And then you feel motivated to start moving. And that kind of gets you in the right direction. And even though it might be water weight, that's okay. mean, but when that 10 pounds turns into, you know, 12 pounds, then turns into 14 pounds and it prolonged over time, I think that mind shift and mindset becomes, I got this, I can do this. And you put in the work and you start.

Bill Jollie (12:24.993)
You know, if it's a block, if it's two blocks, that becomes a mile, but eventually becomes, you know, two miles, three miles, four miles. And, you know, I think that's where you start, start small and, know, get toward that end goal of wherever you need to Yeah. Daily pressure. Yeah. It's just a tiny, tiny, you know, a little bit more every day. And, it's, it's amazing how far you can go and just, just no time at all.

So another thing you said, I think it's really important for folks to understand. So you had this mind shift in 2018 and you lost over a hundred pounds and that's, know. Valley, hundred. 120. Yeah, yeah. 120 pounds. I think. want to miss that. But you, maybe you hit a plateau and then that took you. So you could do, so everybody's body's different. Everybody's physiology is.

So completely different. just because I did something, you're, you know, anybody listening, just because you can do something, doesn't mean it's going to be the same for other people out there. So everybody needs varying levels of health because they have different, you know, different hormones, different levels of neurotransmitters. Everybody's completely unique. And it'll take, for most people, it'll take a combination of things, healthy eating and exercise, maybe meds, maybe surgery.

maybe coaching, maybe physician something, but it'll take a lot. there's this, there's this idea that, that weight loss is just a matter of mindset. And if, if, if you're, if you have obesity, you're just not in the right mindset yet. And, and that's completely wrong. And we, really got to work to break those, those biases and, and stigmas. Yeah. So when, after you lost the 120, before you had the surgery, did you just feel.

Like there was, you hit a plateau and you were struggling to keep it going after that? I did. Cause I felt like I knew had the right recipe. I knew what to do. And I'm like, nothing's happening anymore. And I felt like I picked it up a notch. I started doing this, you know, I started mixing up my repertoire of what I was doing and it was still just like, a month had passed and I'd lost, you know, a pound, a pound and a half. I'm like, what happened?

Bill Jollie (14:44.759)
But also I realized that, when you're severely obese, you lose weight. Right. But my body just was not responding to things the same way that it was. And I was just like, you know, was at a really good clip because it took me about 14 months. I mean, I felt like that was fast, but again, it's the pork and control because, know, having three or four slices of the pizza in one sitting versus having maybe, you know, one or.

Maybe just having that shopping on the pizza and cutting out the carbs. It started doing that kind of thing. It's just like, yeah, I'm cool. And really I'm like water, guzzle, guzzle, guzzle. There was a point that I drank a gallon of water a day. So I was in the bathroom a lot. And so there were things. And so I was doing mind Jedi trick and I was like, I'm doing all the things I was doing the very beginning where I was losing the weight rapidly. And those things weren't working, you know, near the end of the 14 months. And so I just remember talking to my PCP and he's like, well.

You know, I'm certain that you could do some surgery and he goes, it's invasive, obviously. And I'm just like, all right, tell me more. And there are certain types of surgeries that are more invasive than others. I'm like, I don't want to do anything that's. You know, like they have something called a medial switch where they switch things. I'm like, I don't want to do anything like that. And he's like, there are, there's a, another process. I can't remember what it is now. Like stomach staining. I'm like, no, I'm not doing any of that. And he told me about this BSG process and he's like the surgery time is.

about two hours. I was like, okay. And, you know, as I kind of did some of my own research, back with lots of questions, that is how I decided on that process. And he's like, you know, that you can still gain weight back. like, yep, trying to, you know, I come this far with the whole weight-watching process. And I felt like at this point, I understood what I needed to do in order to maintain the weight loss and having the right mix of foods and foods that, you know, I liked and really ensuring that I was not having the whole plate full of meat.

And this tiny portion of vegetables and flipping it the other way around. so again, it was understanding that and making certain that I was going to adhere to that. So in that process, you know, lots of visits with psychiatrists that talked about what were your eating habits like growing up? Did you eat at a table with your parents or did you just kind of eat wherever and whenever? And I felt like, you know, we ate as a family together at the table, but I also did a lot of snacking throughout, you know, the evening and that type of thing.

Bill Jollie (17:12.641)
Yeah. So I'm sure that was critical actually getting some help to change your eating behaviors and being much more intentional about it. did, did you go, were you required to go speak to some, a psychologist by your, by your insurance? Yes. Yeah, that's so, yeah. So there were actually several visits and that's one of the things that, you know, you almost have to pass.

And qualify, just talk about your history. And even though I had lost the 120 pounds prior and I'm like, yeah, I got this under control. They still want to dig into your past and understand how you got even to the point where I was 396 pounds. And I'm like, I'm not anymore. They're like, yeah, we understand that, but you were. And the loss of weight. So how did you get there? Why did you get there? Was food a comfort for you? And you know, so they asked a lot of questions. So I kind of.

brought back triggers for me, know, food with love. And how I started this and it was just like, you went to visit family. we bake the cake for you. And it's just like, eat more, eat more. I'm just like, I really don't want anymore, but it's good. So just being able to be satisfied, know, Weight Watchers, one of the things that they taught us was that BLT, bite, lick and taste as we track food. And that was as I journal food, you know, what did you eat today? So every bite that you had, if you just had a bite of a sandwich, makes it that you're recording that.

Because you're like, I didn't eat anything all day. It's like, I had a bite of that. I had a look at that. had a taste of that. And that actually counts calories count. So being intentional and writing things down for me, I'm just like, I haven't had anything to eat all day. It's like, you had a lot to eat. So you had to, know, don't realize it. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Just just curious. How did you, how did you feel going into counseling? Like somebody telling you, have to do this. Was it nervous at all? Were you looking forward to it? And did your views change through the process?

I thought, I don't need this. I already lost 120 pounds. You don't need to tell me what to do. but I felt like it impacted a lot. And I'm a big advocate of talking to anyone. If you're going through something in life, there are people that can help you just by literally asking you questions, thinking about things in a different way than you think about it. It's like, yeah, I got this. No, I didn't got this. I was missing the mark in a lot of things because I didn't know my why behind why had gotten, you know, so large.

Bill Jollie (19:39.403)
I didn't understand, you know, some of the things that I was going through. And so as they were unpacking and asking questions, was like, maybe that's why I'm discovering things about me. And it kind of just helped me learn more about him in general. So it was actually a cool process because the food and the weight was one thing, but just other external factors. I think it helped me kind of actualize in other areas of life.

Yeah, sure. have, you know, there's been neat studies done that if you, if you take identical twins, same genetic makeup, and you raise them in different environments and one has a lot of means and they're educated and life is just easier versus this other person that's, you know, born into just

or facing so many more stressors in lot of sense. I think it's really important for folks to understand the more stresses that you have piling up and up and up, it makes it so much harder to fight through those cravings and healthy choices. it doesn't matter if we're talking social determinants of health or maybe relationships or whatever it may be, a stress is a stress.

And, the more, the more stress in your life, the harder it is to make healthy choices. I agree totally aligned with that. then I can confirm some of that just from being able to speak with someone that things that I didn't consider stressors or actually things that threw me closer to cut back potato chips. yeah. So what about now? So it's been, it's been a bit since your surgery.

And you've maintained this weight loss for quite some time. What's your eating style? Talk to us about a typical day. What's one of your go-tos for breakfast, maybe lunch and snacks? See, I am almonds. Love almonds. Always have a bag of almonds somewhere. They're just a great pick-me-up in the morning. Almonds, boiled eggs. That's a good breakfast starter for me. And also I'm guilty sometimes of no breakfast at all, but I do try to be intentional. Just, I think.

Bill Jollie (21:53.921)
Like with a hybrid schedule, being able to work from home sometimes it's just like, just start and dig in the day. So I'm like, let me get my almonds and you know, got a call. Let me get some almonds and get in between. so for me, it's like, I always have almonds somewhere. there's, I, Emeril makes these almonds, some are chocolate dusted and there are a hundred calories. And so just a good source of protein and you know,

gets me up and going and there are other days where I just have a big bag of from Costco where I'm just like, you know, depends on the day I'm just like, I need a pick me up. So for me, almonds are life. Let's lunch. It just depends. You know, if I'm in the office, they've got a great cafeteria, lots of choices there. So I'm a soup kind of girl, especially in the Midwest here in October getting kind of chilly. Soups are always good for me. Salads. Always want to try to get some protein in though. If I have, you know, salad from the salad bar.

I'm not big on chicken as I said before, but I might throw some tofu in there or something just to make certain I'm getting my protein in and dinner a touch and go. I'm not really great. I eat the same thing over and over. just repeat my meals because I know what I can tolerate and what my body likes and, but again, I'm really good for fish. And if I do like meal prep, which I often do on weekends, I'll just go ahead and.

Get my air fryer out and you know, I'm doing lemon pepper, whatever variety of, if it's soul, I like soul. Go ahead and get it prepped for the week and dinner is easy. And I'm not much of a cook, my husband cooks, but I still, see my veggies. We don't eat the same way, but I see my veggies and you know, see my chapssummies. It's like, it's really bland. I'm like, but again, it's what I tolerate. So it works for me. Yeah. I like that you said meal fryer because it.

You know, some people I talk to, I hear them say like, don't have time to meal prep. Like if you, if you just like take the time, take a little bit extra time upfront, saves you so much time during the week. like anybody can eat healthy if like everything in life is going as it's supposed to. It's when you know, life happens and schedules change.

Bill Jollie (24:18.253)
And, you're rushing around and maybe there's some added stressors during the day. That's when it becomes really, really hard to eat healthy. And if you've got something prepped and you had to stay late at work or you got to get kids to practice or you're trying to get off the book club, whatever it is, if you've got something prepped, ready to go, that's healthy. And it just makes all the difference in the world. does. Taking the time on the front end to make certain that on the back end that you're good. I mean, as you would with anything else, you know.

If you're getting clothes ready for work for the week, whatever, just making certain that, you know, your clothes are laundered, whatever the case is, you know, close to the cleaners, just making certain that you're ready for a work week ahead. I feel like it's a must, know, and I, I usually don't meal prep anything except dinner. All the other meals, you know, got my nuts, boiled eggs. And if, know, I'm at work, there kind of whatever is in the cafeteria that kind of fits the bill. Yeah.

That helps a lot. So, let's, let's talk about your, your current exercise routine. Like what's, what's a typical week look like? And if you could say what time of the day and what day of the week, try to, you know, don't go super deep, just kind of what, what's a typical week look like for you? I'm an early, so I'm usually up at like 4 30 AM. I just, that's my body clock. It's so funny. Everyone cheats me. You know, my family growing up with my grandparents, they're like, yeah.

He woke up early in the morning. So now that's you. And that really is, I'm just like, it's four 30 who's sleeping at this time, you know? And so I'm like, I'm up. I might as well be productive. so in the warmer months, I go out and exercise out in the neighborhood. So I walk, I run that type of thing. As getting darker here in the mornings and got coyotes and things like that near me. I stay inside and exercise. And I have so many gym memberships, but.

I don't know for me, getting up that early, it's just easier to be at home and just moving it. That's my kind of motto, move it, the move it movement and just move. So if I'm at home, I have a bunch of just like equipment that I just create routines. So now I'm into strength training. So I just get out there and do whatever I need to do to make certain that that's happening. So 4.30, five o'clock, I am there doing whatever I need to do to make certain that I'm.

Bill Jollie (26:42.221)
I physically fit and again, I don't want to be probably got as so from 396 and my lowest weight was probably like 151. And so a little bit bigger now. So about 160 or so. And I'm good with that. But again, just making certain that I am staying toned and lifting. In the summertime, I am more about cardio though. In the wintertime, I'm a crybaby about the cold.

I don't know. live in South Texas. I totally get that. That's funny. They don't have as much running, but again, I'd say maybe one to two times a week that I would go to a physical gym and utilize a treadmill. I don't have a treadmill anymore. I've got an elliptical, but just to get some running in. Cause again, it's just so invigorating to me and it just gives me just that feeling like, I worked out. I did this and the sweat and you know, that's

But drips of sweat, that's gold for me. And so I love that. Again, just the way that it makes me feel like I feel accomplished. And for me at one point, I felt like you had to sweat it out in order to feel like you do, you're really done something. I don't feel like that anymore. I feel like, you know, maintenance and being able to feel strong is my goal. And feeling like I can move a car. That's how I want to feel that I'm strong and I feel fit. love that. How do you feel for some reason you have to miss?

a day of exercise. I feel like I make it up. So if I have to go into the office, I'm taking the stairs. I'm walking up to the fifth floor. I'm going, know, whatever I need to do, I'm just getting it in however I have to get it in. So I have to take a call. I'm walking, taking a call, you know, though. And so I feel like there's like really no reason if I don't have formal exercise time, that I can still make certain that I implement that while I'm in the office out and about. You know, if I'm going to the grocery store, I'm parking the furthest away.

So I can walk. However, need to. So if I'm not up at four 30, which I am, because I can't sleep past that time. But if I, for some reason, doing that, I would do things throughout the day to make certain that I was getting my steps in and, you know, utilizing whatever mode I needed to hear this week in New York, you know, it's just like, this is X, Y, Z, you know, I'm also like, that's what I'm like.

Bill Jollie (29:05.901)
We'll get lost along the way, but let's walk and make certain that we get it in however. So, I love this. Yeah. There's so many things you just said that I'm such a fan of. I try to avoid an elevator at all costs. And I have my own little personal rule that I am, I have not taken the elevator if I'm like six floors or less. And you almost never see anybody.

on the stairs almost all and I can tell you just yesterday, you know, in fact, I had a few appointments with customers and going to the grocery store. Probably. I know, know for a fact just yesterday, four different times, I intentionally. Saw out the farthest car from the door and I wanted to park like one space farther than that. Yeah. It kind of makes it a game. I mean, know, gameifying things without an app, but it.

Really does and in some people think you have to do everything like spend an hour in the gym and sweat it out like You don't have to do that. You get the you know, like just what you said, you know calories count Those the those BLT's bites, licks and tastes like yeah size counts, too Absolutely, if you do ten minutes in the morning ten minutes at lunch ten minutes, you know on a call Later in the afternoon like that's 30 minutes. It you know, it adds up

It's not like an hour that was better than a bunch of little exercise snacks. So yeah, you learned a lot over there. Yeah, absolutely. Get in however you can, whenever you can. Very good. So last question I want to ask you, you've been so generous sharing a lot. lot of people, some people don't like talking about this stuff stuff. So I really appreciate it because somebody out there listening to you, Cam, and they're, they're going to be like, my gosh. Okay. So if she could do it like.

This is the motivation I need. Yeah, absolutely. If somebody came up to you and just heard about your, your weight loss journey and journey to health, and they say like, where do I start? What, what are some tips that you might be able to share with them? Let's see, where do I start? Well, I think one of the things is you have to want it. Right. Cause I think people say all the time, yeah, I want to do that. And they became laissez faire, you know.

Bill Jollie (31:22.433)
And I think you have to be very intentional. And one the things that I learned, if you want something, write it down. You know, I can't think of a scripture right now, but just having a Bible-based belief, you know, write the vision down, make it plain. And so that was my vision. That's something that I wrote down, even for work, you know, when I wanted to do different things at work, I wrote it down in my vision book. And these are things that I want. And so when I wrote that and saw that,

that I want to be a certain size. Then I was like, whoa, I'm crossing that out. I'm an RDM. So I had to write things down. I think it's Jeremiah, the verse is, know, without a vision, people perish. And so without a vision, Kim would no longer be able to attain the goal that Kim wanted. So I had to write it down in order to make it real for me. So I would advise anyone, if it's something you want, write it down. What's your plan of action? Because if you don't have a plan,

You can't move forward because things just start happening. Then, you know, it's like, this happened and life happens, you know, as I would say, life is life thing no matter what. Right. So in order for your plans to take form and take focus, I feel like you'd have to write it down to make it clean. And that's what I did in 2018, you know, and it was like, a lot of painstaking. It wasn't just like, yeah, I want to lose weight. As I started writing things down in my journal, it's just like,

How did I get here? Why did I get here? That kind of thing. I don't want to be here. It was like a depression really. And so it was a good release to write these things down. And then, know, Weight Watchers, that helped me. And I started feeling great. And so my journal entries became different. You know, my vision was a lot more different. It's just like, I want to be able to, you know, walk a mile. And it was like, you need to be more specific as we learn, you know, with work, writing smart goals. Yeah, walk them out. That's great. You know, now it was a timed mile.

And it was, you know, I want to be able to do this in XYZ amount of time and, you know, with all these different parameters. And so would encourage anyone, as with anything, be it weight loss, write it down. So have a plan. You know, I want to lose 10 pounds in two months. How are you going to do it? I'm going to implement XYZ. You're going to implement keto. You know, learn about keto, make certain that works for you and just have that vision. Have it somewhere where you can see it. So you are accountable to yourself. And if you need an accountability partner.

Bill Jollie (33:46.155)
Do that as well, because people are going to make sure that you're doing the right thing and saying, did you be eating that? Is that what you committed to? going from there. is a very powerful tool to change behavior. love this. it down. You will. Hey, Kim, this is great. You imparted so much wisdom today and so much what I, so many behavior change techniques that, that I promote and like you're hitting so many of them and it's, you know,

I love saying like, if you want to change your life, you actually literally have to change your life. your life, judging by what you just shared with us, looks a lot different than what it used to look like. So, absolutely. Yeah. Well, this has been wonderful. Kim, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you. This has been really neat and I've just really enjoyed getting to know you even better. So thanks a lot.

Thank you, take care. Alright, thanks, bye now. Bye bye.

Bill Jollie (34:52.365)
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