An AFL podcast about the Collingwood Magpies, the Hawthorn Hawks and so much more. 

12-year-old Rudy and his uncle Alan are locked in a fierce battle to win the football heart of Uncle Alan's two year old son, Eli. 

Will Eli barrack for Rudy's beloved Pies? Or will he side with his old man's floundering Hawks? The debate rages.