House of JerMar

A Life Committed to Coaching

• Jeanne Collins • Season 1 • Episode 24

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Unlock the potential of coaching in your life as we welcome Talie Davis-Weir, an inspiring life coach and coach for fellow coaches, to the House of JerMar podcast. Talie's unique journey into coaching after a deep low time in her life provides a rich backdrop for exploring the transformative power of coaching.

Talie shares insightful experiences from her past, including her initial hesitation to embrace a career in coaching. Her story exemplifies the non-linear path many face when aligning their career with personal strengths and passions. Whether you're considering a career shift or looking to leverage past experiences, Talie's narrative offers a roadmap to turning passion into a purposeful profession.

We also touch on the importance of community and self-compassion, sharing practical tips to build a life filled with clarity and empowerment. Join us as we celebrate the journey of personal development and the joy of helping others uncover their true potential.

Talie's book recommendation: The Artist Way by Julia Cameron

More about Talie:
Talie's passion in life is to support leaders and entrepreneurs in finding what makes them come alive while empowering them to create a life that they love in every area.

It’s totally possible to have it all... a successful career you enjoy, abundance in your finances, an incredible partnership/relationship, fulfilling social life and time for connection with family, while also having follow through in your physical+mental health goals, deepening spirituality, AND the freedom to live a life of purpose & contribution, all while centered in peace and genuine joy.

Whether that happens in her ICF Certification Course www.icfcoachingcertification.com where Talie trains Life Coaches who want to get their Professional ICF ACC and PCC Certification, or during Private Coaching, Talie is here to empower leaders and coaches so they can more effectively empower others.

In her private coaching and ICF Certification Course, as an objective 3rd party, Talie creates a safe space for confidentially processing every area of life and asking questions to get you to a place of clarity. Talie is your biggest cheerleader, celebrating your wins, while guiding you through roadblocks that have been holding you back, and holding you accountable to the standards you set, so you can begin living the life of your dreams.

Whether it's with her, or someone else, Talie's vision is that we all grow in confidence, clearing our minds of the overwhelm, and DECIDE to start living a powerfully intentional life.

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Speaker 1:

A lot of times we downplay a lot of our strengths. It's like this false humility. We don't want to come off like we think we're that kind of thing. And so we, you know, we can kind of dim the light for a lot of different reasons, and I think coaching kind of helps you really own some of your greatness.

Speaker 2:

And stand taller, especially as women. I think we speak to ourselves in a way that often makes ourselves smaller, and we don't even know we do it until someone else points it out with kindness and with a purpose.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we don't want to intimidate other people. We don't want people to be competitive Like. There's so many different reasons. As women, I think we do that light dimming thing. We don't make other people feel bad about themselves. Whatever, there's a lot.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the House of Germar podcast where wellness starts within. The House of Germar is a lifestyle brand, empowering women to live all in through interior design and personal wellness. We are a destination for women ready to reimagine what is possible in their homes and lives and then create it. We are honored to have you join us on our mission to empower 1 million women to live all in. I am your host, jean Collins, and I invite you to become inspired by this week's guest. Welcome to the House of Germar podcast where wellness starts within. I'm your host, jean Collins, and this week we are talking about coaching Everybody. Please welcome to the show, tally Davis-Weir. She is a lifestyle coach. She coaches people individually, but the other thing that I think is really fascinating about what she does is she helps coach coaches. I did not even know such a thing existed, so I am so excited to share her with you, her journey with you. She's really inspiring. She has amazing energy. She's such a positive force and I thank you so much, tally, for joining the show.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the House of Germar podcast. So good to be here. Thanks for having me, jean. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you for making the time, and we spoke once before, and it was so fun to talk to you because I had no idea that people did what you do. First of all, which I think the world of coaching is a hot button right now. I am a huge fan of coaching. I have always had coaches. I think coaches should have coaches. Every coach I know has a coach, and so I'm a huge proponent of coaching and love spreading the word with people about the value of a coach and how many different kinds of coaches are out there, and so when I met you, I was like, oh my goodness, not only are you a coach, which is amazing, but you also help coaches become coaches and become better coaches, which I think is really exciting.

Speaker 1:

Certified and trained and it's like how do you learn how to coach? It's like anything you don't know how to do it until you learn how to do it, and so it feels like for me such a beautiful way to have more impact in the world, not only coaching people, but pouring into and training and getting certified coaches who really want to make a difference in the world. So I love it. I love it so much.

Speaker 2:

Which is so great and we're going to share about that, because, I have to say, people have asked me on many occasions do you think you'll become a coach? And I never say no. I don't always say oh yes, I'm dying to become a coach, but I think for a lot of us, depending on what we do for a living, there is a natural progression into that because, just like you said, the desire to want to help more people and so, yeah, having a resource like you out there is great.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, thanks All right.

Speaker 2:

So before we get super deep in the weeds on coaching and what you do and how you become a coach, and what is even the certification and all the levels, and what is that and how do you make sure you get a good certification? There's so many questions I have. I love to share my podcast guest's story about how they got to where they are now, because nothing is linear. We don't wake up one day saying, oh yeah, I want to be a podcast host. Oh yeah, I want to be a life coach. It just doesn't work that way. So I would love it if you would take some time to share your journey. And how did you get to where you are today? Sure, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I think I started having some inklings of, oh, this is, this has pieces of what I want to do. Back when I was in high school, I was in a pretty large youth group. There were several hundred kids and our youth pastor and staff. They were just amazing at helping us get really tuned into what we were great at and then find opportunities to, to you know, use it and try things on and grow and just discover a lot about ourselves, and so it was a beautiful environment to be in and then within that I kind of got to try on a lot of different things, and one of the things I noticed that I loved was really connecting people and really encouraging them in who they most were. So I've come later to find out like, do strength finders or different assessments, and you're like, oh okay, that is a part of me. So developer is one of my strengths, and so I love finding greatness in people, seeing the diamond in them that they don't necessarily even fully see in themselves. And then I think when you treat people according to who they most truly are, like that it just kind of comes out of them and shines, and I love putting people in those environments. I love seeing the greatness of speaking to it, I love helping them see it, and so I just had a lot of opportunities in that environment.

Speaker 1:

I remember sophomore year being like oh my gosh, I don't know exactly what this is, but I need to find out how I can do this for the rest of my life. I need to find out what job gets to do this, because I just loved it and just yeah, so much energy from it. And so I was kind of like I don't know. I don't know what role it is, and a lot of people were like oh my gosh, you should be a counselor, like I tell you things I don't tell anybody, and I heard that a lot.

Speaker 1:

It's like kind of close. There's something about working with people like that one-on-one. But I think there was some aspect of it that I wasn't totally on board for, kind of going into the past and just kind of working through all the painful. It was kind of like there was something in me that was more geared for present, moving forward, and I could feel that, but like I didn't know what coaching was at that point. So I kind of ended up doing a lot of leadership development kinds of pieces for like probably 20 years and loved that. And then when I discovered coaching, I was like, ooh, that's even more of kind of a. There's something in there that really resonated.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I would say, which is kind of the journey but yeah, right, well, now, and when you did leadership, were you working for another company or were you always an entrepreneur working for yourself?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, it's interesting because it really was more in kind of ministry circles. So I worked with a lot of leadership teams within ministry circles and ran retreats and did all kinds of things, worked with senior leader teams and kind of helped teams really work well together and then developing leaders.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, that's also very interesting and powerful.

Speaker 1:

It was beautiful. I really, really loved it, and I think coaching is just slightly even more like such a fit. So that was getting close, but this is even closer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So when you decided you wanted to move into coaching, what was the first step that you took? How did you know? How do you move forward? I'm speaking to the people that are listening out there that are kind of like I might be interested. I don't know, yeah Well for me.

Speaker 1:

I was like, okay, I've worked with people for a long time, I know that there's a lot about this. That is a fit, but for me at the time, like the way that it opened up was really interesting. So I was in probably my hardest season of life. In that moment I was going through a divorce. I had one of my really close friends who had seen me for a long time and all the different aspects of what I did, and she was in a lot of the things that I trained and she was like Tali, I'm telling you you should do coaching. She's like, because she was sitting on the board of a master life coach out in California and she was co-authoring books with him. So she was really in those circles and and she was just like I am telling you, of everything that you do, this is like even more a fit.

Speaker 1:

And I had a coach at that point. So there was something in me that was like, oh, the, you know there's something really attuned. But because of the, the life stage I was in, I was like, girl, I am not going to be anyone else's life Like. I'm like I'm no, I am not, you know, stepping into coaching in this moment, I don't think so. Yeah, she just kind of kept leaning. She's like that's what qualifies you for it, like going through things and you're going through it so beautifully and with so much forgiveness, and so you know your heart.

Speaker 1:

And I was just like no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to be coaching. So I just kept resisting and she kept leaning in and like I'm telling you, and she kept leaning in and like I'm telling you, and I just couldn't see it. But there was this like series of you know how the universe, god you know, works, where things get put in your path, and it's just like synchronistic, event after sync is like that. So I could go into the whole. Story is a really beautiful story, but I don't know how much time we have. Story is a really beautiful story, but I don't know how much time we have. So it was one of those that it was so clear, so so clear that like it's just being handed to me. You know, yeah, yeah, right there, those where you, you know you walk up to like the, the grocery store door, and it just has that electric open door and you're like uh, I guess I walk in, I guess I enter Right, yeah, so it was.

Speaker 1:

it was one of those kinds of situations like, okay, and so it was, um, a certification program actually. So that's kind of how I picked off and probably why I'm passionate about it, because that is really what launched me into what I'm doing today Um, getting to coach and getting to make a difference for leaders. So I continued to work with leaders and I still do. I still do one-on-one coaching with leaders and absolutely love it. I don't see myself ever not doing that, like I don't see myself ever retiring. I just it's not like retirement. Why would I want?

Speaker 2:

to retire. What is that? Oh, but see that like tells you, when you found your mission and your passion, that it's no longer work. Right, and that's what everyone says. When you've really found your calling and what you're truly supposed to do, it's so heartfelt and is so meaningful that it's not work and that you would keep doing it. And that's why I love coaching, because it fuels you. That's what I do.

Speaker 1:

I help people find that for them, because everyone has that. Everyone has that place where, like it gives you more energy after you do something than before you started it. Like I feel like that after every coaching call, I'm more alive, more energized, just like, oh my gosh, how is this my job? What I want to help people get to is what is it that lights you up, that makes you come alive when you do it, that you feel purposeful and like you're making a significant difference for other people and in the world and you're in contribution? Yeah, so that's what I love, which is powerful, all right.

Speaker 2:

So this is a really big question, but an open-ended one that I think is a good one for people, for people who have never gone to a coach before. If someone comes to you and you say, you know, that's my mission is to help people find the thing that lights them up. If I was someone who had never been to coach before but I'm not my audience might say, okay, how in the world are you gonna do that for me?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's amazing. That's what the beauty of coaching is is it's asking a lot of really just curious questions and then finding a thread and just kind of staying with that to evoke awareness in you. So there's no point where I'm like, oh, I know what you're supposed to do. It's always asking questions that kind of creates that oh in the other person and so they, they get there. But it's just asking powerful, open-ended, curious questions, that kind of. And then also following my intuition, you know, it's like if I was coaching with you right now, I would see like, what is it that? You know? I see that energy in you, or maybe it's a tone of voice or a sparkle in your eye, like when you talk about this, this happens in you and when you talk about this, like you know, even your body language does this, and then you're like, oh, I haven't even noticed that you know you. Just you're kind of following all the different cues, which is all what you learn when you go through some kind of training.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that's kind of where I started was was getting trained and getting to learn a lot of this stuff. But, yeah, helping people notice in themselves what it is that causes them to come alive, and there's so many different ways to look at clues from your life or your past, or you know when was the last time you felt that?

Speaker 2:

and kind of going back to yes, but I always love to say it's. I love how coaching is when you say, like, when was the last time you felt like that? However, the focus is not about like let's go back to your inner child and fix everything with how you were raised. Folks right Like that. Everybody is therapy.

Speaker 2:

The thing that I love so much about coaching it's like tap into moments in the past where you felt a certain way, and how do we get that feeling back again and that spark and some of the emotions that we equate to being young and carefree and passionate, that I think, as life starts to wear on us, that light gets dimmed a little bit because the reality and responsibility of life and, to your point, the stage you were in a little bit, because the reality and responsibility of life and, to your point, the stage you were in in life of you know, getting a divorce and having really like life is hard and sometimes it's it's hard when you're in that space to find light.

Speaker 2:

So looking backwards for the light helps you get in tune with the feeling. A hundred percent, yep, yeah, and then and then you very much. I've found my experience with coaches. It's sort of. I love how you say it helps you look within, because I feel like in some ways it's just the mirror. We don't like to look in the mirror at ourselves, but it is the mirror without you having to feel uncomfortable by looking right at yourself and having a conversation with yourself. You get to have it with somebody else, but you are the mirror reflecting the things that we need to see. It's so powerful.

Speaker 1:

A lot of times we downplay a lot of our strengths. It's like this false humility. We don't want to come off like we think we're out, that kind of thing. And so we, you know, we can kind of dim the light for a lot of different reasons and I think coaching kind of helps you really own some of your greatness.

Speaker 2:

And stand taller, especially as women. I think we speak to ourselves in a way that always, often, makes ourselves smaller, and we don't even know we do it until someone else points it out with kindness and with a purpose.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we don't want to intimidate other people. We don't want people to be competitive Like. There's so many different reasons. As women, I think we do that light dimming thing Right. People feel bad about themselves. Whatever, there's a lot.

Speaker 2:

But I also love that you talked about the fact that you were so resistant to coaching because you felt like, why would anyone hire me? And I have had people say this before and I've learned over the last four years in particular that there's so much value in our life experiences and we don't give enough value to the life experience. We just focus on what's your degree, what's your education, where have you worked, what's your resume, but there's so much value in life experience, so I love that you mentioned that you felt that way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it's one of the best things that we bring into what we offer other people, like pain that we've walked through, challenges that we've overcome. All of that is like my friend was so right, I just couldn't see it at the time. She's like that is what qualifies you to be able to come alongside people, and I'm like uh, no, no, like maybe once I come through it or and she's like I am telling you, you know so, and I think some of it is, I had an impression a little bit that coaching was I'm showing up as the expert in somebody else's life to help them and really coaching is truly a partnership where you come alongside the other person and you're just. It's almost like the client is the driver in the car and I'm kind of like the co-pilot or the passenger, but helping them get really clear.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a good analogy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's really more consulting, and sometimes it's easy to get those things confused, but that was just not really understanding in many ways, of course, of course.

Speaker 2:

So when you went and did a coaching class and a coaching certification, I will say, at least right now, there are so many options. Yes, there's a lot, so many. So how do you decide? If you want to be a coach, where do you go and what prerequisites should a coach have if you're looking to hire someone?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's really good. Okay. First question how do you decide where you want to get certified? So, really, probably, looking at what certifying body do you want to be under?

Speaker 1:

So for me, like I love ICF, that's a I don't know. To me that's like the gold standard in coaching, because when I first got certified it wasn't through ICF. So the program that kind of showed up in front of me that I was like okay, obviously. You know I was like do you get an ICF certification from it? They're like well, we're based on ICF competencies, but it's not technically an ICF certification. I was like I don't, I didn't really know what I, I didn't know at the time and that was.

Speaker 1:

It was a beautiful start. I learned a lot, I grew. But then there were a lot of different potential contracts that you know. They were like oh, we, you know we've interviewed all these people, we want to go with you, we're going to get the contract over to you, just send us your ICF certification. I'm like so it's not technically. Multiple times and I'm like okay, clearly I need to get an ICF certification.

Speaker 1:

So for me, you know, I mean that was learning the hard way in my personal experience. So, deciding what certifying body you'd like to be under. There are different ones out there. And then, after you decide that kind of going in and looking at different ones, I will say there are a lot of organizations that are like you can get all this training, and it's under ICF, in a weekend or you know, and it's you know, some low amount of money. You know some low amount of money. And then you get in there and you like really read the fine print because there are organizations that will say it's an ICF training but it doesn't equate to an ICF certification or any other you know certifying body.

Speaker 1:

So really look at and ask the questions Do you actually get a certification at what level? And then for me, I led quite a few trainings at the ACC level. So within ICF there's ACC Associate Certified Coach, pcc Professional Certified Coach and MCC Master Certified Coach. And one is like the ACC is kind of like getting your bachelor's degree in a way in the coaching world. Pcc is a lot like getting your master's degree and MCC is a lot like getting your PhD. So I led quite a few.

Speaker 1:

I created an ACC training it's a 60 hour training and started taking people through that. And it was beautiful and it was a great experience for me and for my students. Um, and then I had a group that was like we kind of really want to get our PCC. Could you take us all the way through PCC? And I'm like, let me see, I went to ICF and they're like here's what you need to do to get that credential or that accredited.

Speaker 1:

So I went through that process and took all of them through the PCC level and then I was just blown away because that's 125 hour training. It's a lot. The difference, it's a commitment. It's a commitment. It's a commitment. But it's like the what they came out of that with, because it's you know, it's based on eight competencies and you, you learn those. You can get all of those learned and understand them in a 60 hour training and really kind of start getting some momentum. But I watched the people that went through the 125 hour training, the PCC level, and they're like confident and they are getting like results consistently and their businesses started blowing up. I was like whoa, okay, there is something really in that making the time to to integrate all the learning, because there's a lot to learn up here. But yeah, and to get it into where it just flows naturally and you're confident and you're like put anybody across from me and I'm going to get them results. Right, right, right.

Speaker 2:

Apply it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it just takes longer to integrate. I kind of use the analogy. Like I like ballroom dancing and so you know you can watch Dancing with the Stars or those different people are out there on the floor and you just you can tell they are in it and they're just feeling it. They're not in their head, they're in their full self, it's embodied. Yes, and I think about coaching and a lot of those programs. You know it's like you want to be that coach. That's just you know out there, inviting and flowing and confident and knowing that you know what you're doing. And a lot of times when you do those really short trainings, it's kind of like you're in your head because when you go to actually do a ballroom dance lesson for the first time, you know you want to get out there and just like flow and dance and they're, they're going okay, right foot back over. You know you're like in the. You have to remember you actually have to learn it up here and then do it and do it and do it before you can kind of close your eyes and just dance it and not just flow Right. So like that I think with anything, but certainly for coaching. And so I've just watched the difference between, like, really putting yourself on a track and doing 125 hour training. That's when I've noticed that people really get the results I think people, like most coaches, really want to have.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it depends too. What are you in it for? Do you just put the credential after your name? If so, you can do it cheaper, quicker. Just say I'm certified through whatever. Or do you really want to have that experience where you're like I know that I know what I'm doing and I feel great about charging what I charge, and I know my results and referrals and you know repeat clients, all of that. So, yeah, to me, like I'm somebody who loves to invest in myself and just always be in the learning, I feel like there's not a destination, it is always journey, and so I'm always in a track, learning something new. That's just kind of how I roll.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, which I'm a huge fan of. I feel like continual learning is so important because it's also continual growing, and if you stop learning, you stop growing, and that's so boring. So continual learning is so important and I would think if I were looking to go hire a coach, I would want a coach who wants to continually learn, Like I don't think anyone should ever feel like they've reached it. They're here. This is the end game.

Speaker 2:

I don't there's nothing else for me to learn. There's no other experience for me to have. There's no way for me to get any better. Like that's not.

Speaker 1:

That's not true, that's a good question about you know, how do you know who is a good coach? I mean coaching. I've heard I don't know if it's ready to kind of fact check this but I've heard it's the second fastest growing industry right now.

Speaker 2:

I would not surprise me. I feel like that is our industry or something. Yeah, I think that is probably true.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's like understandable because you know it's a deeply fulfilling job. You have, you know, so much flexibility Like I, I can work from anywhere. I'm just like the kids want to go somewhere. I'm like yep Cause, I can coach from the beach or in a hammock, at a park or anywhere. You know I can coach from anywhere. And then you get to set it around your schedule so you get to say how many clients you want to have a week, who you want to work with. There's just an incredible amount of flexibility. So it's understandable why it's a very fast growing industry.

Speaker 1:

And then more and more people know it, get it, want it. It's like if you want to move further, faster in any area of your life, there is a coach for you for that. But I think when you're hiring I would say get on a call. A lot of coaches will do some kind of intro, some kind of complimentary, sometimes a discovery call or something, because they want to. They want to like feel you out, do they want to work with you? And you get a chance to fill them out and like just feel if there's a connection. You know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe have a few of those calls with a few different coaches and just see, like, who do I really feel connected with, who do I feel seen by? Who do I feel like is really going to empower me to go where I want to go and talk about what you want to get out of it and ask them, like, how do you see us being able to get there? How do you work with people? Different coaches work with people different ways, like I. I work with people weekly. I do an hour session every week with my, with my clients, but different, different coaches do have different packages. So just see, like, is there a connection? Do you feel like there's somebody you're you're finding yourself leaning into, emotionally feeling safe, with feeling seen by? Yeah, yeah, just let them share maybe some some stories of impact they've had with other clients that they've you know that's a good story.

Speaker 1:

That's a good one.

Speaker 2:

Have you had?

Speaker 1:

any clients like me and can you tell me any stories about them?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is. That's a good one.

Speaker 1:

I think. The biggest thing, though, is like I think you know, when you connect with people, is there a connection there? Do you feel safe? Do you feel seen? Yeah, yeah and safe.

Speaker 2:

You mentioned the word safe because I think feeling safe with a coach is important, because you want someone who will ask you challenging questions but not make you terrified to be vulnerable and reveal the answers. Yeah, but not make you terrified to be vulnerable and reveal the answers, and that you know like if a coach is not going to push you, in my opinion, then they're not necessarily doing their job. You know you want them to ask some questions that you might not ask yourself or might not force yourself to really think about the answer, and you want to feel safe enough to be honest about that answer.

Speaker 1:

Otherwise, you garbage in garbage out Totally and and there are different coaches that kind of come from different like some coaches, just I think, especially maybe coaches that haven't been trained as much in a particular model, but they see themselves more as, like, I'm your accountability person, so I'm just going to be drilling in like did you do the thing? Did you do the thing? You know yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like maybe that's what you want, maybe that's what you think will help you, but a lot of coaches are more like, okay, what's coming up, what is it that you really want? And and when you say like I need to do this or that they'll, they'll really lean in with you, like, is this a should? That's like some kind of external like I just should do this, or is this, internally motivated, something that you really want and why is that important to you? It really helps you get under what it is that you're really going after and why and what is going to help you get there.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, I think that's worth checking into as well, yes, good advice, and a coach should have a coach.

Speaker 1:

Always. It's like if you are a coach, then you value coaching, right? You value your own growth and learning.

Speaker 2:

Right, exactly, and if you don't have a coach, then there's a problem with that. It's one of the most things that you do Right? How into what you really do? How much do you believe in what you do if you don't have one too?

Speaker 1:

What's interesting, too, is that coaches that have a coach and invest in themselves. It's so much easier to just like you just have this. Of course people want to do this and of course people are going to pay you to do this, because you get it Like you're in it, you're in the energy of it and it attracts it. Yeah Right.

Speaker 2:

It's a way of living, mm-hmm. So let's talk, let's go back to continual learning. So I feel like there is so much that we all can learn about ourselves and personal wellness and health, and mental challenges and mental growth. How do you decide what you're going to?

Speaker 1:

learn next growth? How do you decide what?

Speaker 2:

you're going to learn next?

Speaker 1:

That's such a good question To me. I think it's mostly kind of it feels kind of like a spiritual experience to me. It just either a theme will show up or a lot of it. Are these kind of what feel to me kind of like synchronous things that are like oh, that's so interesting. I just had a conversation about this and then here's that you know, I just had this aha in my own coaching session and then I sit next to somebody on a plane who's reading this book or who's you know whatever. It's just so funny how it just shows up like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I, I do a lot of things Like I have a masterclass membership and a mind value membership. There's just different things that there are a lot of things like I have a masterclass membership and a mind value membership. There's just different things that there are a lot of. When I finish one quest or one course and I'm kind of like, okay, what else is catching my attention? Or I mean I surround myself with a lot of people who are personal development and growth kind of people. That's one of the beautiful things about being a coach too is that you have all these people who are doing that kind of work and who love to learn and grow. So a lot of times you know a friend will be like hey, let's do this book club. Or hey, do you want to do this Whatever challenge with me? So I don't know. I feel like I always have at least one thing going, sometimes three or four, it's I, I just I love it.

Speaker 2:

Because you're putting yourself in the right place, the right time and you're opening yourself up. Yeah, and you're aware you made a comment about it's so much of what you're talking about is awareness of the things that come out and that are maybe speaking to you before the universe has to smack you across the head with whatever it is you're supposed to be learning at a given point in time, and so you can make your journey so much easier if you learn to become aware of these signs. And just kind of subtly, I always tell people, like, if something makes you pause, it's making you pause for a reason. Yeah, and you don't have to necessarily act on it quite yet, but if that's something you're supposed to be doing, then that will come back again to your point in some other sign, in some other way. And then pay attention, because if you pause twice, that means you're supposed to do something else. There's something there, right? Yeah, there is.

Speaker 1:

There's something there talking to you Causes you to kind of have eyes that are open for that. I don't know, I'm a journaler, I like to journal every morning and so a lot of times I'll see things in my that I've written about that day kind of show up out in life and like, oh, look at that. But I think it's because we train our brain like that reticular activating system. It's that part of your brain that kind of tunes out the extra and tunes in the things. It's like when you're shopping for a particular car that you don't normally and like all of a sudden they're everywhere or you're looking for a certain I don't know outfit or whatever, you just start noticing all over the place. So that's your reticular activating system, your brain telling you, oh, this is the thing I think you believe is important. So I'm going to highlight it.

Speaker 1:

Or like that noise in your environment that isn't important for you to be tuned into, that you learn to, just kind of. That's why, moms, you know, like you're around mom of a toddler and you're like, oh my gosh, how do you get anything Like her brain tunes that? That's not.

Speaker 2:

That's not an I'm in trouble voice or sound, that's just my toddler being a toddler, exactly, but that's not a tragic. I've fallen and I need help.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I think we do that in our. When we're people who are self-reflective, there is something that your brain kind of dials in like, oh, this is important, and then you start seeing it show up out in the world.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, well, the thing about the cars. I've read so many stories about people saying, oh, I want to manifest a certain car, and then all of a sudden they see them everywhere.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I had a guest on the other day. She was like I wanted to be pregnant. I was going through FUF and all of a sudden I realized like I feel like the whole world is pregnant. She's like cause I was never noticing the pregnant people, but now that I'm trying to become pregnant I feel like everyone around me is pregnant Totally and I'm like I'm sure that the people around you didn't really change. It's just how you know, your brain is noticing and picking up on those things and I think that's why visualization is so powerful, like really focusing on the things that you want.

Speaker 1:

I do a vision clarity retreat every January and it's so cool Like we do all of these steps and kind of help dial in, like what is it that you want in every important area of your life? And then we ended up creating a vision board and it's so wild People that come back year after year. They're like, oh my gosh, like I did everything on my vision board by October because I was so dialed in and looking at it every day and I think when we do that, we really do. We draw that toward us, we have the eyes to see it. Like if you know that you're going to run a marathon by the end of the year, it's like you just start hearing conversations that you normally would not notice, or seeing a poster for something in your area that you wouldn't pay attention to, or noticing a group doing something at your gym that normally you'd walk right past, but because it's something you're dialing into, you just start seeing it everywhere Like, oh, this could help me with that thing I'm looking at every day.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this could serve you know it's cool, it's so cool. So let's talk about vision boards for one second. Okay, so I have read so many books, I have listened to so many podcasts, I have been to mindset meetings and everyone's like you have to do a vision board and I sort of I must have trauma from my childhood somewhere where I'm like. Oh, my God the thought of going through magazines and cutting out pictures and gluing them onto a board makes me nauseous.

Speaker 1:

What if you don't?

Speaker 2:

view it that way. Well, so here's my question for you. So I so, cause I think what it is is. I always viewed myself as not being a creative person and ironically, you know, I'm an interior designer and a writer and all these things that are actually very creative. So that perception of myself was not true. Just because I can't draw, it doesn't mean I'm not creative. So about a month ago, I was listening to another podcast and someone was talking about the importance of vision boards. I was like, okay, universe, you are talking to me, I hear you. So I went and I did four Canva digital vision boards yes, perfect, and so okay. So what I was looking for was like, okay, that's okay, so that was good. That's actually what we do at mine.

Speaker 2:

It is what you do, Perfect and I had, and so okay. So what I was looking for was like okay, that's okay, so that was good.

Speaker 1:

We do at mine.

Speaker 1:

It is what you do. Okay, and I've had both. You can do the magazine or you can do it and like, over the years, I'm like it's just so much easier and more and more people want to have it digitally. They can make it a saver, they can print it off at Staples, whatever you know it's like it's just easier. The whole thing is quicker. You really can dial into exactly what you want rather than just try. I mean, I think there is something to going through magazines and just seeing what draws you and doing, cause I just did one this last month actually that way and it was great, but for vision boards. I think that's that's how we do. Ours is a Canva one and it's beautiful, it's easy.

Speaker 2:

I am so glad to hear that I'm working on a blog post about it because I have to say the other interesting part of the exercise was it was really a lot of fun. It was so fun, I was so into it all weekend and I was so committed to wanting to get it done. Because it's really fun, Cause in some ways I'm like this is like writing a Christmas list when you're a kid.

Speaker 1:

I'm like what do I?

Speaker 2:

want. What do I want to create? As if the sky's the limit. I can do whatever I want, and why not just go find images of it and put it down there and put them all together in a cool little digital collage and add words of inspiration. I got way into it. I did four of them. I thought it was so much fun. You did four. That is awesome. I did. I did four. I started with one and then I was like, oh, that's not enough. I need one that focuses on this area and one that focuses on that area. And so I actually did four of them. I printed them out. I even put them on a board, a whiteboard that I write on digitally so I can see them on my phone. I've been converted.

Speaker 1:

I've been converted, don't you love looking at them? Now Like I do? Yeah, like so many things, that are so many things. You that kind of get you to come alive.

Speaker 1:

Image is so powerful. I really just and I'll tell you this story Be really clear about what you put down. Because, like an example, we were doing vision boards at one of these retreats and this woman wanted to embody like abundance and money, and that she found a cool photograph and it was a jar of coins. Like, do you want a jar of coins or do you want a lot of money? She's like that's a good point, because I've heard about people, you know, like they put something on their vision board and there's something in the background of something else they were putting in there and it was like this kind of like car or whatever, and they were highlighting I don't remember what the thing was that was in front of it. But they ended up getting that car that they're like in the back. They're like, oh my gosh, it's been on my vision board for a year. I wasn't even intending to, so really like what you want. So I was doing a vision board years ago and so I kind of do mine with the different areas, like the eight, eight different key areas. It's it's a life wheel assessment that I've created. So we kind of do the vision board around that because it's part of what we do and in the area that was career and calling, I was like, no, I want to host more retreats.

Speaker 1:

So I had something that said retreats or something like that. And then in my like kind of fun, recreation, refresh, refuel category, I had a picture of this beautiful European city and I was thinking like I want to travel more and, for whatever reason, this is like maybe six or seven months after having this board, I had it on my iPad as my screensaver. I saw all the time I would, you know, pause and just look at it before I get into my iPad a lot. And this one day I was like I don't know why, but it was like these arrows going back and forth between retreats and this beautiful European photo and I was like, yeah, why don't I have a retreat somewhere in Europe? Why don't I do an Italy retreat? Because I want to go there. So I know there are other people who would, other people who would too Totally overwhelming to put it all together and figure out the details. And I was like, if I put something together and it just you know, there's a chef and yoga teacher and myself all the things that you want to do when you're having a game Sounds heavenly. So I was like, okay, I'm going to combine these two areas on my vision board and create a retreat, so fast forward two weeks before. So I was like, yes, we're doing this and it all was coming together First international retreat and two weeks before we're getting ready to leave, I was on Pinterest looking up something and that exact image that I had on my vision board was there and I was like, oh my gosh, that's.

Speaker 1:

And I clicked on it and it's there. And I was like, oh my gosh, that's. And I clicked on it and it's the exact location of where we were going, no City we were going to. It was like what? That's crazy, crazy. I didn't even know that it was in Florence and we we had a whole day in Florence and like our villa was just outside of Florence. That's so cool. That is so cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's not the first time I've heard a really cool story like that. That's why I was like, okay, I need to embrace this vision board concept and get get with it and do it Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And visualization too. Like I've got clients that will like part of our session. Sometimes they'll visualize the thing that they want and then there'll be like you have got to be kidding me. Like a month later they're like do you remember that thing where I was talking through? And this detail and that detail that all just happened this weekend? Like to the T, it's great, like it's wild, it's powerful, it is powerful. It is powerful what we give our attention to and what we focus on and what we are declaring is going to happen.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, well, and it's that saying like it already is yes, so everything already is and everything that you want already is. It's just a matter of attracting it and creating it and being in the right space to have it at that time, but it already all is.

Speaker 1:

Yep, it already exists, yeah, yeah, because we experience time as this linear thing, right. But I think bigger than that. Like, when I think about how God experiences time, it's like completely outside of our little concept of how time works. It's like, right, actually already happened. Yeah, in that space, like whatever it is has already happened. And so I sometimes wonder if our desire for things even are like we desire it because it's already, because it's already happened.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. Yes, it's already part of the future plan and that's why we desire it. Right Versus the flip, it's an interesting thing to think about. Is it's like oh wow, okay, I got divorced. Is that because I desired it, or that was already part of the plan, right? Or I got fired because I desired that, or that was already the plan, so therefore, I desired it. It's kind of hard to know.

Speaker 1:

I think when we live in that trust that it all works out. Yeah, there's even a part of me, you know, having gone through lots of different painful places in life and then now looking back and going, oh my gosh, that was the biggest pivot point into what I now love so much. If that hadn't happened, I would not be here, if I hadn't gone through what I've gone through. There's no way I could sit with my clients in their pain the way that I that that I can now. You know, it's so, so many things that were so hard I'm so deeply grateful for now.

Speaker 1:

Right the point that it's like whatever we go through, like okay, how is this going to serve?

Speaker 2:

You know Right, what am I going to learn? I'm going to grow, I know I'll grow, and just having faith, yeah, I just said that to a friend this week who's going through a lot.

Speaker 1:

I'm, like part of me wants to be like I'm so sorry you're going through it and part of me is so excited for you so excited, genuinely so excited for you, like what is this about to turn into in your life?

Speaker 2:

Because you never know the what if you never know? What if something else happens, that's even better than you could ever imagine it all positions you for more it does.

Speaker 1:

We're never the victim, really. I mean not that you can't just like let yourself grieve the losses in life, that's important, Sure but they all serve us really.

Speaker 2:

All right. So before we run out of time because they've taken up so much of your time, I have two questions for you before we go. One I love to hear what people's personal wellness journeys are like and what their personal wellness activities in their days are like. So you mentioned journaling. What other things have you incorporated into your life to help you with your personal inner wellness?

Speaker 1:

Oh man. So every morning I have time that nobody can kind of infringe on. It's just like my space before I have any clients or anything going on. That is, you know, journaling. I have a bunch of different kind of health and wellness things that I take or drink or whatever Yep Some either yoga, stretching exercise, some kind of health and wellness things that I take or drink, or whatever Yep Some either yoga, stretching, exercise, some kind of movement piece. So morning routine I would say I have things that are kind of annual, like every year I do the you know, vision board, vision clarity, retreat, family vacation. I do multiple things with friends like annual things that are just kind of like these are the big rocks based on my priorities are and everything else gets scheduled around it. So, yeah, I would say I'm away. I try and get between 10 and 20,000 steps a day, so lots of walking, just movement.

Speaker 1:

I do some like every six months, I do some kind of either detox or fast or cleanse, something like that, so kind of looking at the physical, the emotion, always in some kind of inner process like some kind of a course or like right now I'm doing and this is a book that I absolutely love that I would totally recommend is the Artist's Way.

Speaker 2:

Have you ever done that or heard that? Oh, I have not done that, but I've heard of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's been one of those books that's been really transformational in my life. So this is probably my seventh time going through it. Yeah, I had a friend that was like, hey, you want to do the Artist's Way with me? I was like I've done it a lot of times and, yes, I will totally do that again with you.

Speaker 1:

So that incorporates a lot of different things. One of them is journal three pages every morning, yeah, morning pages where you just stream of conscious, don't stop writing and just see what's out. She's like it doesn't matter if it's your grocery list it. She's like it doesn't matter if it's your grocery list, it doesn't matter if you're writing, I don't know what to write. Just don't stop writing until you get done with three pages and it is amazing what just shows up and comes out.

Speaker 1:

It is or frustration or like you're just. It clears out all the mental clutter that's in your head all the time and you get that out first thing in the morning and then you're just so much more freed up to kind of focus on your day, and then you're just so much more freed up to kind of focus on your day. Another component of it is doing an artist date every week, so you take yourself by yourself out to do something that just sounds delightful to you. It could be like this last week I went to a farmer's market by myself and just walked around and took pictures of beautiful things and bought some veggies and fruit I like it Flowers and pet puppy dogs and it was great. It was just like following kind of your delight. What is it that brings you delight and making space and time for it every week.

Speaker 1:

Making yourself a priority and, yeah, going with yourself, like with that part of you that just needs to be seen, needs to be loved, needs to be nurtured, and it's just this kind of I am going to take care of you kind of feeling every week, beautiful.

Speaker 1:

And then after each chapter there's a list of I don't know, maybe a dozen different. She calls them tasks, all different kinds of things that go with that chapter, and you just pick a few of them to do that week. But it might be like go through your closet and pick out three low self-worth things that you don't need in your closet anymore and donate them Like just clear it out. Or write a letter to some critic in your past who, who was critical of you and tell them like how you really feel and right from that age, like whatever, like your seven-year-old self, I can, too, spell and you know whatever you know kind of like in your defense. There's like all kinds of different tasks. Some of them are physical, some of them are more like reflective but powerful. So you just pick a couple of those to do every week and it's beautiful.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, I'm doing it with a friend right now and that's been a joy. That sounds great. Well, that was my second question was a book that you would recommend to everyone?

Speaker 1:

So it sounds like that is a good book. Yes, that's a great one.

Speaker 2:

Is there anything else that you would recommend to everyone that I haven't asked?

Speaker 1:

about. You know, I've been influenced by Catherine Woodward Thomas and she has, like I've been through some of her stuff in this last year. She's launching a community called True you, which I would recommend. It's great, but she really has you tuning into yourself, like when you're going through something. She'll just be like you know, just sit and be like sweetheart.

Speaker 1:

What is it that you're feeling right now? You know, and I'm like you're feeling right now, you know, and I'm like it's just so self-compassionate. I have not ever been quite that like I don't know, interacting with that younger child self as much as I have influenced by her, and just kind of noticing like what is it that I feel, getting really clear. And then, what is it that you need right now? And maybe it's just I need to go outside and take my shoes off and walk in the grass, or maybe it's I need a 10 minute power nap, or I need to put on a song and dance and reset, or I need to call. You know, it's just whatever. Whatever it is you need, but tuning into what it is that you feel from this place of self-compassion. What is it that I need? That's been really beautiful. I've just been doing that more often like a lot in my morning pages what do you feel? What do you need?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what do you need? That's a really interesting question. What is it that you need?

Speaker 1:

And evaluating need versus want in a different way, also by looking at it that way and, looking inward, I like that a lot and I think, too, that a lot for ourself. There are, like we are constantly, always motivated by what we feel and what we need, and we're subconsciously always trying to get our needs met, and so it ends up. It ends us up in some places that really are pretty unhelpful, because we're not conscious of what's actually driving it. You know, whether it's like our workaholism, because we think we need to make all this money so that we can feel approval, or maybe it's so that we can feel a sense of security, or so that, like there are different underlying needs underneath even some of the same behaviors for different people.

Speaker 1:

But if we can tune in and we can go, okay, what I really need is a sense of security or a sense of significance, or I need to feel approval and like we actually can give ourselves so many of those things that we spend sometimes a lifetime running after at the conscious level. But when you can make it conscious and make it make it so that you're aware of what you need and you can go okay, if that's what I'm needing, then how can I help get that for myself and then we're not putting so much pressure on all of our relationships. We're not running after things, we're not numbing out as much through addictions, because we're actually meeting the needs that are really there. It's, I think, really beautiful meeting the needs that are really there. It's, I think, really beautiful. So I would say that giving yourself space every once in a while to really kindly, compassionately, tune in and notice what you feel, notice what you need, and then make it a priority in your life.

Speaker 2:

Perfectly said. What a beautiful way to end this recording. I thank you so much for your time and your wisdom and your amazing energy. I will put in the show notes all the places and ways that people can find you and follow you and find out about your coursework, follow you on Instagram and thank you so much. You really you are a beautiful soul and you have so much wisdom and I thank you for sharing everything with my audience. So thank you.

Speaker 1:

Good to be with all of you today. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, have a great day. We'll talk soon. All right, bye. Thank you for joining us for another episode of the House of Jermar podcast, where wellness starts within. We appreciate you being a part of our community and hope you felt inspired and motivated by our guest. If you enjoyed this episode, please write us a review and share it with friends. Building our reach on YouTube and Apple Podcasts will help us get closer to our mission to empower 1 million women to live all in. You can also follow us on Instagram at House of Jermar and sign up to be a part of our monthly inspiration newsletter through our website, houseofjermarcom. If you or someone you know would be a good guest on the show, please reach out to us at podcast at houseofgermarcom. This has been a House of Germar production with your host, jean Collins. Thank you for joining our house.