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Rituals: Getting Woo With Tarot Lori

• Jeanne Collins • Season 1 • Episode 32

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Prepare to be enchanted as we host the brilliant Tarot Lori, author of "Burn Your Sh*t: The Life-Changing Magic of Rituals."  Lori shares her journey from Calgary to becoming a luminary in the wellness community. Recorded on the magical Friday the 13th, Lori reveals how full moon rituals can liberate us from outdated beliefs and emotional burdens. Discover how she seamlessly integrates mystical practices into everyday life, making them accessible and transformative no matter where you are on your spiritual journey.

You'll hear firsthand the power of setting intentions and how these practices not only reshaped Lori's professional path but also led to a two-book deal with Harper Collins. This episode will inspire you with stories of personal authenticity, growth, and the courage it takes to align your life with your true self, even amidst personal upheaval.

We unlock the power of rituals and tarot wisdom, offering practical insights on how to harness these tools for empowerment and manifestation. From the history and allure of tarot to Lori's upcoming book, "Big Deck Energy," and ambitions of a Guinness World Record, this episode is filled with inspiration. 

Tarot Lori also pulls a card for the audience and gets two cards: the 6 of wands and the ace of swords. Listen to hear more of her wisdom about the messages and inspiration in these two cards for you, the listener.

More about Lori:
With the May 2024 release of the bestselling “Burn Your Sh*t: The Life-Changing Magic of Rituals” and recent profile in Vogue, Lori Dyan is bringing her magic to the masses.
 
Lori has spent decades cultivating a uniquely empowering approach to tarot, Moon ceremonies, and other rituals that is informed by her Indigenous heritage while also reflecting her signature sense of humor and storytelling style.
 
As a member of Peguis First Nation (from Cree and Ojibwe descent), Lori’s lineage is woven throughout her work and informs everything she does – it is the source of her magic.

www.tarotlori.com

Instagram: @tarot.lori


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Speaker 1:

When we work with lunar rhythms, it just gives any kind of ritual or ceremony. We do a little extra energetic haste. You know a little oomph and a full moon is when the moon reaches the peak of its power, the apex of its power, and then releases. And so we're harnessing those lunar vibes to help us release energetically what no longer serves us. You know what's standing in our way and it can be attitudes, beliefs, narratives.

Speaker 1:

You know old stories we've been telling about ourselves or other people. It can be pain, hurt, grudges. It's this incredibly empowering and cathartic exercise slash ritual where you say I am now ready to release, or I now choose to release, and then you write whatever it is, and I do at the beginning of every bring, or should I do a little grounding exercise to help us sort of get in the zone to come up with what that is. And I now choose to release. You know shame about whatever, or anger towards that person, and then you light it on fire and as it starts to burn you say and so it is, so it is.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the House of Jermar podcast, where wellness starts within.

Speaker 2:

The House of Jar podcast, where wellness starts within. The House of Germar is a lifestyle brand, empowering women to live all in through interior design and personal wellness. We are a destination for women ready to reimagine what is possible in their homes and lives and then create it. We are honored to have you join us on our mission to empower 1 million women to live all in. I am your host, jean Collins, and I invite you to become inspired. Honored to have you join us on our mission to empower 1 million women to live all in. I am your host, jean Collins, and I invite you to become inspired.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the House of Germar podcast, where wellness starts within. I'm your host, jean Collins, and this week get ready, we're talking witchy. We have Tara Laurie on the show. This is Laurie Deanne. She wrote a book called ready folks, burn your shit. It's so great. It's about rituals. She's known as Tara Lori on Instagram and I am so excited to talk to her and we are recording this on Friday, the 13th in December. So I look at this as a really special, magical, mystical day. So having Lori on on this day is really great. So, lori, welcome to the House of Germar podcast and thank you for being here.

Speaker 1:

Jean, I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me oh.

Speaker 2:

I love it and I follow you on Instagram. I repost your stuff. I have friends who now follow you and everyone's like she's so great. I'm like I know I get to talk to her. How cool is this?

Speaker 1:

I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 2:

And I love. You're into woo and I love it, but I think you make woo and witchy cool and so I'm really excited to share that with people because you make it really actionable and really real and connect the dots. For a lot of people it's not just like woo and witchy and like way out there. So I am so excited to talk about your book and, just so everybody knows, I have read your book, I have done your new moon rituals, I've done your full moon rituals, I've hired you to do tarot card readings. So I'm going to share, along the way, some of the things that I've learned by interacting with you and your platform and the services that you have, because it's actually been really impactful. And one in particular I'll talk about it a little bit later the new moon. You reframed and changed the way I think about everything. So, to get started, why don't you share with us a little bit about your career journey? Because you were not Tara Laurie all of your life, so how did this even come about?

Speaker 1:

It's true, I think I was Tara Laurie my whole life and I just didn't realize it because I've always been into, you know, the mystical, the metaphysical, and I grew up in Calgary, alberta, and in the late 80s, you know, there was no internet. So if you wanted to see a psychic, you had to know someone who knew the psychic. And there was this one psychic, erica, in my town, who everyone saw and she was, you know. She had everything. She had red velvet wallpaper and brooms and crystal balls, doing potions and everything, and she became my mentor.

Speaker 1:

When she took the cards out, I was just immediately enthralled by them. Like tell me everything about those. Like your, your crystals are nice. What are those cards all about? Yeah, I don't know. That was like a little oh my God, goosey's just talking about it. It's like a love at first sight situation and I would. I have a communications degree. So I had like a job job for many years, but I always did tarot on the side and I always say this and no one believes me. But it really is true that I did not get fired from at least two jobs because I would take my clients for lunch and give them tarot card readings.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

That is how I kept everyone happy. So I was always doing tarot and that's why I was like oh, laurie, you know tarot, laurie, like the one who does the tarot. So that's sort of how that moniker stuck and I just started doing more and more. And then I, you know, left corporate world and started doing freelance writing because I have a writing background that have more balance. And then again it's that tipping point, right when it's either I have to start saying no to the writing gigs or no to the tarot gigs. So it was a no-brainer for me, even though it was really scary at the time, terrifying. And how long ago was that? I mean, it was way before COVID, it was a while ago. I've been doing this for over 30 years.

Speaker 2:

My deck is 35 years old and your deck is beautiful. I bought myself a deck.

Speaker 1:

It looks nothing like yours Every reading I've ever done is in this deck, so it's very worn. When I do workshops and people bring their brand new, it's just a Rider-Waite-Smith deck, which is a pretty standard. It's sort of the one everyone's familiar with. They bring out their shiny new ones and they almost look like different images. Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 2:

So when did you decide I can actually make this? A business like this has enough legs to it to be something that I can financially support myself with and love. How did you decide?

Speaker 1:

that a couple of times where I was like I'm going to be a tarot card reader, I'm going all in and I got, you know, spates at a little woo-woo place and decided, okay, I'm going all in on this, and then it immediately becomes slenchy and terrifying because it's like, you know, the mortgage payment depends on this or you know, this reading is a groceries.

Speaker 1:

It just became immediately way too much pressure and it just, you know it, it's fluttered before it could even start.

Speaker 1:

So eventually, after a couple of false starts like that and I was, I mean, it was olden days I was leaving like the little paper up, with the little pieces of paper that you rip off like a grocery store, and I just get like high school kids prank calling me it's a mess, and but I didn't give up because I couldn't give up, because it's what I'm meant to do and you know this work and so I was just a lot more intentional and thoughtful about it and, you know, committed to doing I built up as I was doing tarot stuff, I was also building up my freelance writing roster and it just ended up working.

Speaker 1:

And sometimes, you know, I worked at my naturopath's office for a few months like I would just sort of bring things here and there and, like I said it, just it started to build and build and it was really interesting that the more attention I put to it you know I'm always saying where focus goes, energy flows and the more focus I put to it, the more it started to grow. But it did take that moment of like taking the leap and creating that vacuum by saying no, I am not going to be able to do that project for you, which is like you know closing the door and a little, you know a little dollar bill.

Speaker 1:

And what was beautiful is that within weeks, within a couple of weeks, that vacuum was filled with tarot.

Speaker 2:

Wow, oh, it's like I have chills. I literally have goosebumps as you're saying that because that's what we talk about and so many of us want to get to that point, but it's just so hard to actually manifest that. And we're going to talk about manifesting in a minute because you have a whole chapter on that, so how did you decide to write a?

Speaker 1:

book Sheen. I kind of didn't. I mean, here's how it's also a master class in manifesting this whole book thing, because I had a little Zoom recorded Tarot 101 with my interpretations like workshop online that I was selling, and I created this little PDF to go with it. You know, just like you get with the, with the decks, a little book. And then I started sort of expanding, showing little stories of each card in practical application, like real stories of the cards message showing up in my life or my clients lives or things like that. And so each card then had a little story with it.

Speaker 1:

So it was growing and growing and I was thinking, god, and I had all these friends who were doing self-publishing, who weren't, you know like trained or working as writers, and I thought can you publish this and make like a book book?

Speaker 1:

And then I started investigating it and I started thinking, well, maybe I'll, you can help Shereen get an agent. Like, why, maybe I'll try and get an agent. So you know I'm, and then and I'm still working on the book as this is happening but then I start to, you know, take the action of querying agents and doing research on how to do a book proposal, because nonfiction. You need like a 60 page nonfiction book proposal. And then I started thinking, well, what about if I just go to a oh I started with a publisher, like maybe self-publish, or maybe the publisher will pay me, maybe I'll get an agent? And I started thinking, what if I get an agent and with like a big five publisher, like it sort of, was this shift? I always tell people it was this shift from why not me? To more like why not me?

Speaker 2:

Why not me?

Speaker 1:

So you know, I have this into and I would visualize myself opening the box of books coming from the publisher and seeing the book. I didn't know what the book was called or what it was even about, but I would be holding that book and just oh my God. And I ended up getting a meeting with HarperCollins and they were interested in the tarot book to the extent that they knew I could write. But part of your book proposal is you have to talk about marketing initiatives. So I mentioned Burn your Shit this thing I do on Instagram live every month that anyone can join us this boom and fire release ritual. That had been like two days prior. So when we got on our call, which is actually about this time two years ago, they were like yeah, yeah about the tarot, but tell us about rituals, what's the burn your shit thing you do? And I had a friend who had advised me go into this meeting with book two in mind because you don't want to just be talking about one hit wonder, you know, like a one trick pony.

Speaker 1:

So when they talked about that, I said, well, actually that's the second book I have in mind, which it was not at the time like. I was like sure, why not, why not, right. And then it became it. It shifted from, um, a one book deal to a two book deal because it was like, okay, we'll take the tarot book and we're gonna do the ritual book which has actually come out first.

Speaker 1:

So then I had to write a book on rituals. I was like I have a new moon ritual that I do, manifesting a full moon ritual where I let shit go. What are we doing with the other 10 shots? Oh my God, that's a lot. But it became. I realized that throughout my career I've been collecting rituals. I've been collecting the homework I called it homework that I was giving everyone, and so when I started really sort of parceling out what these little homework things were that I was giving people, I'm like, oh, I've got, like I've got a book here. So that's how that happened. And then I really did have that moment of opening the box and seeing the book and I recorded myself and I almost fainted, I remember I remember you posted on Instagram when your book came out.

Speaker 2:

I remember I was like it gives me goosebumps just to remember it and to imagine how you felt to see that it was wild, it is a big deal to have Harper Collins on your book cover. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's not lost on me.

Speaker 2:

That is not what happens to everyone, and what's even more amazing about this and why people so many people self-publish and I did myself as well is everyone says the process is so long, but you did this two years ago and your book has been out for quite a while.

Speaker 1:

I mean here's the thing we met in. We put it out. I got an agent in September. We put the book out for submission in October. We had the meeting with HarperCollins in December. In January we signed the contract and then, six months later, at the end of June, I delivered the book written Wow. And then I had like a small nervous breakdown. I would too. It's a lot of effort.

Speaker 1:

But also I mean, as that was happening, I was also coming to terms with the idea that maybe I wasn't meant to be married to the person I'd been married to for 24 years. So, like, as one thing is going up, up, up, expanding, the other thing is going kind of down the pooper. But it also motivated me to like, okay, I've got to get this, I've got to get this done because I've got things to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, did you change through that process, did it? Help you writing Helped you change Yep.

Speaker 1:

Writing it and I did a lot of women's circling. I was Googling spiritual women's mastermind during COVID because we were locked up raw up here in Canada. Found this woman in California doing online circles and through that there was a lot of magic that happened, meeting with those women too, just coming to terms with who you really are and and stepping into yourself, and part of that was the book. All of that happened when I started circling and so all of it together, the alchemy of everything. It would be weird if I didn't end my marriage. It comes on to me.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

I mean the visual I got you were stepping into you and that relationship wasn't part of who you stepped into. Yeah, like blessings and everyone sees now it was for the better, even though it was horrifically difficult, but it was like fireworks or a sparkler with a weighted blanket on top, you know. And so writing the book is the part of this coming into myself, yes, and like watching my talk, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Living your truth, not just envisioning it and thinking about it and feeling it, but actually living it. So there are. I'm going to ask this question because there are a lot of women who feel like they are meant to do something else other than what they're doing, and that journey is terrifying for the number one thing you just said, which is the realization that the relationships that you have in your life, whether it be with your friends or your coworkers, or your spouse or your parents.

Speaker 2:

that comes up a lot on my podcast doesn't align with that person podcast doesn't align with that person. So, like what did you tap into to help you get the strength to be able to keep moving forward, knowing that that could be the outcome?

Speaker 1:

It's that whole like proof is in the pudding. I mean, it was the more I felt aligned with myself and quit hiding and started, you know, going like something sort of seemingly silly, like I do this card of the day on Instagram every day in my reels. It's like a little telescope. And I started for many years just did it in my stories because I didn't want it to last longer than 24 hours, because what if I screwed up? What if I look like garbage? What if, what if, what if, what if.

Speaker 1:

And then when I switched to reels, it was like this is permanent and it's a small thing, but it's like no, I'm making something that that is like I'm standing by my standing, by this, I'm standing in my integrity with this. And another thing, another thing that happened during COVID again locked up raw is I was coloring my hair every three weeks since I was 25. I'm 54. So, like sure, and I couldn't get to the hairdresser, so my hair started growing out the roots and I look like half an Oreo cookie, you know, with the white on top and brown on the bottom and my hairdresser was finally like the next time we have open doors, like get in here.

Speaker 1:

We got to deal with it. For so long I was doing these Instagram you know telescopes with my hair like in a bandana. It was a mess and it just I sort of got over myself and was like I am who I am, like that was the thing about COVID. There was, there was no you know hiding behind a false lashes and all the blah, blah, like it was just like we're doing what we can with what we've got. And so by the time coming out of that, I felt very in my. I felt very much myself with the silver hair and just rocking it. But I had, you know, there's a woman on Instagram, the middle-aged goddess Jane McCann. She's a buddy of mine and she's the one who convinced me to to let the gray come in. I was so resistant to it, I it. I was putting eyeshadow filler powder on my roots. I was desperate and then finally I just thought screw it, just be you yeah, but that's what gets you a following, I think so much now right, because Instagram is so hard.

Speaker 2:

It's a constant game of you create content and people don't respond, and it's so disheartening in so many ways. It's tough as a content creator. Everything I read about and everyone I speak about and everyone I know who's successful on Instagram, it's all about being vulnerable and helping people step into their true selves because you are willing to do it to this massive unknown audience, and that's scary.

Speaker 1:

Authenticity is a word that's really, you know, thrown around and overused, but it is. It is being true to yourself, it is being yourself. So if I look like half an Oreo cookie and I haven't slept well, and I'm, you know, and I love my words and what, oh well, Right.

Speaker 2:

It's real life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it reminds me of when my naturopath friend she told me when she got home from work and it had been a rough day and she just grabbed a bag of chocolate chips like they were probably organic carob nibs or whatever but she just emptied this bag of chocolate chips in her mouth and I just thought I've never loved you more, like I've never wanted you to be my naturopath more, because she was showing herself to be human.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you know, and I think it's that, just that humanness people see, and I think it's just that humanness and that's why Burn your Shit is so effective, because people send me stuff to burn on their behalf from all over the world and we realize we're more alike than we are different when on a Friday and Sunday is a full moon here for us and I love to participate in your burn your shit thing. I even ordered a little cauldron and it came and it's so tiny I was like I ordered the biggest size and I was like, okay, six inches, and it came and it literally is like the tiniest little thing. But I put it in my fireplace and I do the rituals with you and I do put it in my fireplace and I will say it burns better in the cauldron than it did in the dog bowl that I'd been using before, so like I was using a metal dog bowl and both are fine, right, like both are fine, yeah, whatever you know and then I do so anyway.

Speaker 2:

Can you share what that is, because I do the stuff that you say later too. So what is burn your shit ritual for people of no idea, which is probably most people.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it is. It's what I call a full moon fire little extra energetic haste. You know a little oomph. And a full moon is when the moon reaches the peak of its power, the apex of its power, and then releases. And so we're harnessing those lunar vibes to help us release energetically what no longer serves us. You know what's standing in our way and it can be attitudes, beliefs, narratives. You know old stories we've been telling about ourselves or other people. It can be pain, hurt, grudges.

Speaker 1:

It's this incredibly empowering and cathartic exercise, slash ritual where you say I am now ready to release, or I now choose to release. And then you write whatever it is, and I do at the beginning of every bring, or should I do a little grounding exercise to help us sort of get in the zone to come up with what that is. And I now choose to release. You know shame about whatever or anger towards that person. And then you light it on fire and as it starts to burn you say and so it is, so it is. And then I now choose to release, la, la, la, la, and so it is. And just watching the word burn, sometimes one word on the paper won't burn, or a couple of words won't burn from different sentences and it creates its own unique message. You know, and it's so witchy and you can be in the cauldron. I was with a bunch of witches in the woods Last one's doing it.

Speaker 2:

It was hilarious.

Speaker 1:

On Sunday I will be on my balcony with my little cauldron, which is honestly like full disclosure. It's like a tin bowl thing from Dollar Store because it's nice and big. My little cute one can't handle all the ashes and I can't explain exactly how it works beyond what I've already said, but I can definitely say that the impact is undeniable.

Speaker 2:

It is Well. And then you also talk about taking, and at first I was like I'm not doing this, but then I do. I do it every time, Putting water on the ashes and if you can go and bury them and I do have a special spot in my garden and I do I take them out there and I bury them in the garden, and that part of my garden has crystals and everything, and so I feel like why not?

Speaker 1:

What do we have to lose? Why not, exactly? It's not hurting and it's not going to make things worse. Right To throw some crystals in your garden and bury some burnt paper. Who cares Correct, right, and to speak to sort of the book about, because Burn your Shit. The book is all about how rituals meet us where we're at the moment, we're in you know, and they're meant to as a tool for self-discovery or healing or connection. And Burn your Shit can do all of those things.

Speaker 1:

And when we bring in the elements of water, which is the most purifying, fire is the most transformative. Air is the engine that makes it all go. And then, when you put it to the ground, you put it to rest, you know, return it to Mother Earth. That speaks to the indigenous. You know there's an indigenous flavor to that and I have an indigenous background. I'm a member of the Peguas band up here, so that feels good to bring all of that in. And also, you can be standing over your toilet ripping up a piece of paper into itty bitty pieces, unless you have a septic tank. Don't do that. And then flush it. Flushing is great too. It is great.

Speaker 2:

It's the release, it's the action of the release, which I think is so special. And one of the things that you do with your burn your shit ritual, and you talk about this in your book, too. You reframe.

Speaker 1:

Would you?

Speaker 2:

mind explaining what reframing is.

Speaker 1:

For me, I've come to realize I think it's just straight up channeling, because and you're the.

Speaker 2:

You're brilliant, by the way. I love doing it Brilliant, thank you.

Speaker 1:

Brilliant, thank you. I enjoy doing it because someone will send me something to burn. You know, like a very glib kind of example, but it's true, it's something. Like you know, I now choose to release 10 pounds from my butt. Or I now choose to release, you know, constantly worrying about my weight or my physical appearance, and that's fine, that's going to still feel good to let that go. And also, how about we dig a little deeper? Like I now choose to release being at war with my body? Yes, right, I now choose to release being at war with my body.

Speaker 1:

Yes, right, I now choose to release, turning my body into a measurement of beauty or success for someone who has nothing to do with me. Right, you know, like things like that, where that is when I do, I'm just getting goosies like crazy. When, um, when I do these reframing exercises, because I write everything that everyone says, I always handwrite it and I'll just sort of and I have to consolidate because there are always many that are a similar kind of theme around body or finances, people wanting to let go of them. You know, and it's not so much. I now choose to release Fred from accounting and then Fred's going to be gone Like it's not magic, but it's.

Speaker 1:

How about I now choose to release, giving a crap what Fred thinks about me because I have nothing to do with him? Or I now choose to release, letting conditioning from my past. Yes, let me get activated by something Fred is doing in my present. Yes, you know, it's deeper. So in those moments you are, you are stepping into your agency. Yeah, you know, rather than just like wishful thinking or, you know, just like hate burning.

Speaker 2:

Well, and you're focusing bigger, You're focusing on the broader thing, yes, Deeper and much more powerful and much more emotional and much bigger. Not just I'd like to lose 10 pounds, I'd like to pay down my debt. It's like let's go a little deeper than that and think about the larger impact that that's having on you as a person. And what is that? It's like, you know, they always say don't just solve for, like the problem at the present. It's like, well, what is that a symbol of?

Speaker 2:

Or what does that signify for you and you have this incredible ability to reframe in the most beautiful way. It is worth just watching Burn your Shit on Instagram just to hear how you reframe things with helping people think differently about their challenges and what they're looking to release. It's a true gift.

Speaker 1:

It really is. And it's funny because my publisher with Burn your Shit she said can you put a few examples of the reframes you do in the book? I was like, oh sure, and there are like four pages of reframes. Because once I got going I was like and then this, and then this, and then this.

Speaker 2:

It is, and it's more than just like one sentence Like I want, I'm ready to release being overweight. You know you take that to a whole nother level. So while we're on the moon, and then I want to come back to the meaning of rituals. But while we're on the moon, let's talk about the new moon ritual, because that is a little bit different than the full moon ritual.

Speaker 1:

Right. So I say in my readings all the time you have to pull the weeds so you can plant the seeds. And pulling the weeds is making space, it's creating capacity, and you do that during a full moon and then planting the seeds, that's for a new moon, because new moons, that's a new cycle, it's new beginnings, it's fresh starts. So that's a beautiful time to manifest. And I always tell people manifesting is not the ding-a-ling in front of the vision board, like, oh, when am I getting married? Fingers crossed.

Speaker 1:

It is about being really clear and focused on your intention and you can do a vision board or journal or daydream or all the things, and follow up that intention with the inspired action, which is just little baby steps to get the ball rolling, get the momentum going, and then forget the power. You know, don't, don't focus on when or how, keep an eye on what and why, and then, instead of trying to plan and plot and visualize all the steps because it discounts all of the magic you just want to say, okay, god, booty, universe, everything, here's what I want and here's what I'm doing. Now, how will you help and what have you got? And be open to seeing stepping stones or synchronicities or breadcrumbs that get you there somewhere better. People always want a blueprint. There's never going to be a blueprint, but there are breadcrumbs. So that's sort of manifesting in a nutshell, and if you do that kind of thing around a new moon again, it just gives it a little cosmic juice. Yes, Now.

Speaker 2:

I participated in your new moon manifestation, class Are you going to be doing more of those in 2025?

Speaker 1:

I think what I'm going to do is consolidate them quarterly, because doing them every month is getting tricky because I'm traveling a lot with doing retreats and things like that. But if I can do it quarterly and I'm thinking you just sort of reframe, reposition is like a manifesting masterclass so that we can still work with. You know, I help people just like with burn your shit. I help people formulate their craft and intention for maximum impact. You know, because someone will come in and say, oh, I cause, in this case it's. You know, I'm now ready to receive Right and instead of I'm now ready to receive a business that I love that makes, you know, 10 million a year. It's like, okay, that feels like lottery ticket buying. You know, yes, but how about? I am now ready to step into opportunities that allow me to fully express my gifts and generate compensation that is abundant for me. And whatever, whatever, whatever, right, that kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

Well, and I think doing it quarterly is totally great, to be honest, because I did it a couple months ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I'm going to share the reframe that you gave me because I'm going to share this because it has 100% changed my mindset about what I am trying to grow into and evolve and become. Wow, and it's mind blowing to me because I was like you barely know me and we're on this two hour Zoom and everybody's talking and you have to go and write what your intention is and then you're like, okay, who's willing to share? And I'm like me because I want help, I want to be better.

Speaker 2:

I want to learn how to do this better, right, and so my intention and I don't remember it exactly, but just at a high level my intention was, like my, I am ready to become a well-known speaker and podcaster, you know, leveraging my story to empower women. I want to say something like that, and your reframe and I'm going to read it, and this is why I think quarterly is great for you, so mine is, and this is what you said. I am now ready to get my voice into the world and have it embraced by those who will benefit from my wisdom and my magic. That is so good, isn't that great? And so this I journal about this every single day, about this emotion and this feeling.

Speaker 2:

And what it was is as you say. It's talking about going deeper, and I look at it as also going wider. It's not focusing on the path and the little steps to get there. It's focusing on how do you want to feel and be and living, and what is your authentic, true life supposed to be, without putting parameters and boxes around it, which is what you had said to me. You have these parameters and boxes about being a successful speaker and podcaster. Who's to say that that is the path, unless?

Speaker 2:

there's something better and open your mind out, and so why I say quarterly is awesome. I'm just using me as an example for everybody here is that I have had that same thing. So one thing you didn't mention is like the magic woo-woo at the end is that you write all of this and then you say, you know, and so it will be this or something greater for my higher self, or something like that, and then you sleep on it and you put it under your pillow.

Speaker 2:

Literally yes, literally. And so I have had that exact same one from three months ago. I've rewritten it every month as part of the new moon ritual. I have it in my pillowcase, under my pillow, and the funny thing is I've been doing it for three months and the other day my boyfriend goes do you know? You have a piece of paper in your pillow. I was like, yes, I take it out every Sunday when I change the sheets and then I put it back. But what's so interesting is that it's helped me focus on how to reframe other things in my life by going through that exercise of really thinking about it differently and I've read that statement to.

Speaker 2:

I have a breathwork coach, I have a business coach. I have read that to them and they're like wow, okay, that's really powerful. I'm like it is. And that's your magic. Really Like that is your magic, that is your woo magic is your ability to tap into that and channel that to other people.

Speaker 1:

So thank you, thank you for that, thank you for that beautiful reflection, because that is, ultimately, I mean, my tagline I always tell people is woo, woo without the cuckoo. I can give you a sense of my approach. I take it seriously, but I'm not goofy about it, and my goal with everything I do is to inspire, empower and enlighten and to get these tools, whether it's tarot or rituals into the hands of as many people as possible, because I've experienced myself and I've seen and this is another amazing story that I might talk about because I love sharing stories I've seen and this is another amazing story that I might talk about because I love sharing stories I've seen the impact that it has. It can be life.

Speaker 2:

It is life changing. It is life changing. And that reframe of what you said of me getting my voice out into the world and having embraced by those who will benefit from my wisdom and my magic what a mantra, and I journal about. What does that look like for me? How would I feel in that space? How would I be contributing, how would I feel like I'm purpose-driven and mission-driven if that were to be, so that I can try to step into being in that energy and that space?

Speaker 1:

It's a beautiful, like North Star it is. It's so powerful, and who knew?

Speaker 2:

Because, you know, I was like oh, we're doing this new moon manifestation, Okay, sure. Yeah, it can lead to so many other things, which is so powerful. So thank you.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you for doing the work, because if you had just gone and not said anything right and left with your little statement which was great, it was fine, it's not going to make things worse, but you know, you took a chance with that, like putting your hand up and then you like. It's the intention and the inspired action, and a lot of people just get stuck at intention and then get resentful, right.

Speaker 2:

I want to talk really quickly about routine versus ritual, because that I found very interesting, because I feel like a lot of us have routines. But, how do we change routines to make them more of a ritual?

Speaker 1:

I always say that a ritual is a routine or a habit that is imbued with loving intention. So when you make your coffee in the morning, it can be you making your coffee in the morning and it can also be a ritual. Rituals are these beautiful moments of presence, right? Because when you're saying, okay, this is sort of like my morning is I gotta get coffee, I gotta get out the door, my guy, I'm late, okay, and if your intention is, no, this is my time, I'm carving out. This time I'm indicating to my people, to universe, everything that I'm worthy of this moment of pause and reflection and nourishment, and I'm just gonna take my time with my little enjoyable cup of coffee. Sure, do you see the difference?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So different, such different energy.

Speaker 2:

Of a task that we're doing. Anyway, we're doing the task. We're doing the habit, we're doing the routine, so why not make it more powerful?

Speaker 1:

And everyone is doing ritual. Humanity is founded on ritual. I mean dancing around the fire before the big hunt, that's a ritual. Blowing out birthday candles ritual, book club ritual. You know, it's just having the awareness and intentionality that can then make it almost into like a superpower.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and you talk about all that in your book, which is really. You have so many examples in your book, and you're also very vulnerable in your book, which I commend you for that, because sometimes it's very hard to put yourself out there but you do talk a lot about your life oh, thank you and how you integrate this into your life. So, talking about your life and how you integrate this, what role does tarot, the cards, play in your everyday life? Other than I know? You post every day on Instagram and you do a reading and you explain it to everybody in the funniest honestly, like truly everybody. You got I'm going to tag her, you got to go out and check this out Like just funny and real way of explaining the cards. But how do you internalize tarot in your own life? Every day?

Speaker 1:

It's really, it starts with the card of the day. Honestly, I don't pull cards for myself very often at all, which is kind of hilarious. And also, I mean, again, they're a tool, right, they're a tool to help you tap into your intuition. So I can do that without the cards. Now, yeah, you know, but they are a lovely visual prompt slash guide and I started posting card of the day and half the time, even now, I'll post it, thinking, well, this is obviously my message, this is so clear. Of course, yes, calling me right now, this is ridiculous, no one else is going to get it, like I am.

Speaker 1:

And then that is when the DMs are coming in stronger than ever. Oh, my God, this is my card. How did you know? Yes, and even though I don't do it seven days a week because mama's got to rest, but I do it Monday to Friday the part of the day, and it's like this never-ending dialogue between the collective and the cards and the message that is being delivered. So it is like a check-in moment every day, which is nice. And, honestly, when I do events, if I'm sort of early and I have my deck and I'll just like do a quick little spread for myself and be like, oh, that's interesting, and I'll take a picture. To be like holy crap, roger, that Tara you know, but I'm not. I don't usually sort of sit and and, ok, now I shall do a reading for myself. I used to.

Speaker 2:

I used to do that more no-transcript, like, even if you're just writing, I don't know what to write. I don't know what to write. I don't know what to write, it's true. Is the three minutes up? Is the three minutes up? Yes, I need to pee, I need to pee. I need to pee Because you talk in the book about doing it in the morning. It's true, I do. Yeah, which?

Speaker 1:

makes it very real and often I'm just like why did I start doing this? It sucks, but by the end I'm always like thank you.

Speaker 2:

It gets you in the right mindset to start your day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I often get huge epiphanies. That's how I do my business planning, jean.

Speaker 2:

I do All of my, I say, come from journaling and then meditating afterwards A hundred percent of them. Or journaling and then going for a walk outside.

Speaker 1:

I was just going to say going for a walk. It comes from nature.

Speaker 2:

Every single business idea I've had, good or bad, comes from that, because the universe is talking to you. You just have to pay attention and listen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're closer to that universal flow when you're, in nature, correct. So what's book two about? Book two is the tarot book. That started as a little PDF thing and it's my version of tarot. It's changed quite a bit. I actually had to rewrite like 70% of it, which I did in like dream ass, like it was crazy, but I knew, I mean that I could write in my sleep. That was it. I just had to shift the focus so it could be like a nice companion piece to burn your shit.

Speaker 1:

So it is tarot. It's really deep dive on the history of tarot and also just what it is and what it isn't, how to do spreads, how to you know, pull cards for yourself and and a pretty in-depth explanation of each card as well. But rather before it was like 70% cards in their stories, 30% like the ethics of tarot and the history and all and how I work with tarot and my and my journey with tarot, and I had to flip it. So it's really just 30% about the cards themselves and 70% about just how it works, why it works, the collective unconscious, why was Carl Jung so hot for tarot? Like it's so interesting, anyway, and it is called Big Deck Energy. Ooh, I like it. When's that?

Speaker 2:

coming out.

Speaker 1:

It's coming out in June 2025. That is so soon.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

It was handed in a year ago.

Speaker 2:

Not to like make you cause alarm, but like oh, my goodness, that's so soon, I'm so excited for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's wild, it's wild.

Speaker 2:

And is it a little like pinch me, Wow? Well, this one is.

Speaker 1:

I mean the first one was because the first one was just, it was like you know, I get, I always get weird visuals, you know, in the train tracks and the cartoons you see the guy with like the seesaw lever thing on that train track, yes, you know that flatbed and then it starts to go faster and faster and faster and then his feet are flying behind him. That's what last year was it felt like with the book coming out. This feels more like measured and you know, and I sort of you know, my first time at the rodeo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I'm going to do fun things. I'm trying to apply to set a world record, like with Guinness World Book of Records, for a number of tarot readings, like consistent number, like duration of doing tarot oh my goodness, because I broke it. I mean there is no record currently so you have to apply to have it become a record. But I've done events in the past where I've done readings honestly with like two 15 minute breaks for like 15 hours.

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness, that's a lot I can do tarot, yeah. So that's something that I think would be cool and it's just happening.

Speaker 2:

It's almost like you're just and correct me if I'm wrong with this it feels almost like you're just the channel for the energy and so you are just the channel for the message and the energy, and that's how you're capable of doing all that it isn't you it isn't necessarily you.

Speaker 1:

You're the channel for the energy for that particular person yeah and yeah it's, whether it's a single person, a group or, like you know, the internet. When I write down words or speak words, there's wisdom there, there's experience there's, there's all the things. Oh, yes, but someone, a wonderful medicine woman, helped me sort of put it into words Like my medicine is the energy that is imbued in the words, right, yes, you know so it's. It's not just.

Speaker 2:

The way you deliver. The message is your.

Speaker 1:

Complete uniqueness is your complete uniqueness, yeah, but there's like there's that ephemeral, energetic something that is in the words as they're spoken or written. That is what makes it have the impact it has, I think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so are you still doing tarot readings for people? Can they still sign up on your website and do tarot readings?

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, I do all my readings are on. Zoom. I do some. All my readings are on Zoom. I do some events and that's where I'll do them in person. But it allows me to be a lot more efficient. When I'm reading, you know, on a Zoom, where we're not trying to meet somewhere, there's hellos and goodbyes and blah, blah, blah. You know. It allows me to be more efficient and not have a massive wait list and I think people are more open energetically when they're in their own space, like everyone's, more relaxed.

Speaker 2:

Yes, well, and you record the Zooms which I find allows, when I've done it with you and whenever I've done any intuitive anything, it allows me to be present with what's happening and really listen to you without feeling like, oh my goodness, I need to take notes and write down every word you're saying, because I'm not going to remember it and I'm not going to be able to connect the dots, especially when you're doing your reading with like the whole.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to get this wrong, but where you're doing it's like a clock and every you know you go all the way around. Yeah right.

Speaker 1:

All the and I was like I am never going to remember what you just said and I talk for an hour straight and I talk I try to be mindful of my speed, but I get all like sweaty and excited and start talking really fast. So can you imagine trying to remember it? I'll forget it.

Speaker 2:

You couldn't and you'll be like, and this card is related to this card and I'm like and what card was that? What number was that? I remember going back and be like and what number was that? That was what number four. So having the zoom is amazing because you can go back and then the messages are there.

Speaker 1:

So I and it's also far outweighs- yeah, my readings, I always say, are from now to six to nine months out. So there can be things I say in the moment that obviously track and resonate, and then there are things that you won't even really take in and if you listen to the reading down the road, it's once life has happened or things have sort of internalized the reading a bit more. Then you look back and go, oh my God, that was the most important part.

Speaker 2:

I can't believe it. Okay, you say that now and I'm going to go back and listen to my last reading from you. Yeah, do, because I'm so curious. All right, before we run out of time. Yes, what's on the bucket list? And we are going to read a card, we're going to do a card too, but first I want to know what is on your bucket list personally and professionally, because you are the manifesting guru, and so I am so curious what is on the bucket list for you?

Speaker 1:

I am. My intention is to grow my visibility, network opportunities for doing more retreats, more speaking opportunities, going into the corporate space. I've been doing that, speaking to like lawyers and stuff. It's everyone needs rituals and and you know the so-called woo-woo in their life. And I have a third book that I'm mauling. That's going to be more sort of like a fit. It's not a how-to thing, it's not fiction, I'm calling it a memoir. It's kind of like memoir but laurie's memoir, but not, it's not my life, it's an experience I had anyway, it's a whole thing. So other projects, uh, but yeah, expanding that and and just getting more visible on things like this, on great podcasts and television opportunities, that kind of stuff yeah, getting your voice out into the world.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and personally, it's just to keep connecting with amazing people, because now that I am very unshackled and just free to be me, I'm meeting such amazing people.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure you are.

Speaker 1:

You're attracting like-minded people into your space. And then it's so powerful it is. It's so powerful. Just keep expanding the coven, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Your tribe of supporters? Yes, yes. Of support that lifts you up and helps you grow and keep going, because it is a journey, it's not a destination. Okay, would you read a card for us? I would love to have you read a card so everyone can get an idea of how you explain the cards, because it is truly amazing.

Speaker 1:

You'll hear me knock. That's just me knocking the energy of the last reading out like a little energetic palate cleanser. I can pull a card for the collective, but, jean, I'm going to pull a card just for you first, okay, okay, sure. So let's just do a little shuffle and I stare at you awkwardly and get your mojo in here, and then I cut the deck and get your mojo in here, and then I cut the deck and then let's see, what does she need to know right now? Okay, I mean, you're getting three cards, because that's how tarot works sometimes, and you'll see why I pulled more. It's actually interesting. So first you've got the 10 of wands, which is lovely.

Speaker 1:

This guy's lugging around this heavy load of sticks and he's almost at his destination. So it's telling you a burden you've been carrying for some time physical, financial, spiritual, mental, emotional or a combination will be lifted. And when it's lifted, it's like oh God, I can breathe, you know, like feeling lighter and taller and a beautiful easing of burdens. So that's gorgeous. And I pulled more cards because tarot loves to be like oh, do you like that? Do you want it? Here's the work, or do you like that? Don't screw it up, right.

Speaker 1:

So to help facilitate this with as much speed, grace, ease as possible, here's the message you need to pay attention to the five of coins, which is a bit of a cautionary card, these two guys barefoot in the snow instead of inside with the money and the shelter and love and all that good stuff, because they were goofing around and missed a door back here.

Speaker 1:

And it's telling you to pay attention, to be thorough and mindful and detail-oriented. Don't get OCD about it, but like when you're signing something or verbally agreeing to something, just know what you're getting into so it doesn't come back and bite you in the butt. And it's not saying something bad will happen, just something bad could happen. If you're like uh-huh, sure, yeah, okay, and then they go is that your signature? And you're like so, and even though there's money here, I always say it could be sending out 50 resumes, realizing you know he spelled the word resume wrong. Or it could be health related, like get that mold, check, that looks kind of weird. It could be. Don't say you'll help the guy move, not knowing if it's a fifth floor, walk up with a waterbed, like just know what's what.

Speaker 2:

Know what you're getting into.

Speaker 1:

Do you see how, if you're not doing that, it could delay or be a kink in the garden. Host to that energy. And then the third card which could make what you know, this card that's telling you to pay attention. What could make that difficult is this bonkers, cuckoo, bananas, knight of swords energy. This is Tasmanian devil. It's like trying to get on a log in the water, you know, and there's just one nostril above the waterline. It's very unnerving and off-putting to not know what's around the corner, to not feel like you have a handle on things, and usually the cards will tell you like here's a lesson or here's a perspective, and this card is just going yeah, right, what a gong show. Like it is what it is. The good news is you can handle it, even if you don't think you can, and it's not forever. It just feels like forever when you're in it. So see how you don't want this to get in the way of the paying attention to details and possibly delaying or impeding the easing of the burdens.

Speaker 2:

See how it told the whole story. I love it. No, which is why it's so impactful. And I remember when we did our reading I was like, oh my goodness, that's so spot on. Like oh my goodness that is so and I'm like and you don't even know what's going on in my life or my relationships are like you know nothing and I'm like I know nothing. That's exactly like it's I. I Terrell gives me goosebumps every time because I just feel like it's so spot on with what you need to hear and I think it's just like for me.

Speaker 2:

I take it as I know. That information, I know that I know that there are clear waters ahead, or I know where I need to focus. I know that it's just reminding me that that is what I need to focus on. And the fact that you always do the card but here's the work, kind of thing is really helpful, because that's like okay, be aware of that landmine over there.

Speaker 1:

And you do need. I always say it's not fortune telling, it's not going to be like you're going to meet Bob at Starbucks on Tuesday because that's goofy, but it is giving you a peek behind the energetic, like the the curtain, to see the energetic landscape you know. And what you do with the information is up to you, like, take what works and ditch the rest. And and it's it's more like you said, validation, guidance, reassurance, bit of a nudge. Yeah, do the work. Yeah, yeah, do you want me to?

Speaker 1:

pull a card for the listeners.

Speaker 2:

Let's build a card.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, pull a card for the listeners. So if you're listening or watching this. This is your message. What do we need to know right now? Yay, Okay, We've got. I pulled two again no-transcript recognition validation for who you are and what you're about, and I pulled another card because, well, how can we make that happen?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then, oh, no biggie, it's just the most powerful card in the deck the Ace of Swords. And the Ace of Swords is a super bossy card. The other cards, like I said, here's a lesson, here's something to look at. This card is saying we're done screwing around, here's what you're going to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's about stepping into your power and being the author of your next chapter, rather than a passive reader, being the protagonist of your story, not someone else's sidekick. Being out there unapologetically, authentically yourself, knowing it's enough because you're enough as you are in this moment, not needing anyone else's permission, and knowing that you need to be out there, shining as bright as you can, being as loud as you want, taking up all the space you need. And if someone comes along going that's really loud and that's super bright, well, put on your muffs and get sunglasses, like your comfort is not my problem. That's the vibe. It's saying it's like you're a peacock, but a dude peacock, because they have the feathers and your feathers have been tucked under, not taking up too much space, playing kind of small. And the Ace of Swords is saying absolutely not, that's not going to cut it. It is time to plant your feet center stage, get the tail feathers out and start shaking them like a Vegas showgirl no-transcript understanding tarot and rituals.

Speaker 2:

Just follow and just listen and you'll start to learn and then, before you know it, you will be totally sucked in to Lori's magic. It truly is magic and it's real. Honestly, and hopefully from my story everyone can understand. Like truly is magic and it's real, honestly, and hopefully from my story everyone can understand, you have really impacted my life and helped me tremendously, so I thank you. Thank you for your time. I hope you have a beautiful holiday and I can't wait for book number two to come out. So thank you for your time.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate it, jean, thank you. Thank you, bye.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for joining us for another episode of the House of Jermar podcast, where wellness starts within. We appreciate you being a part of our community and hope you felt inspired and motivated by our guest. If you enjoyed this episode, please write us a review and share it with friends. Building our reach on YouTube and Apple podcasts will help us get closer to our mission to empower 1 million women to live all in. You can also follow us on Instagram at House of Jermar and sign up to be a part of our monthly inspiration newsletter through our website, houseofjermarcom. If you or someone you know would be a good guest on the show, please reach out to us at podcast at houseofgermarcom. This has been a House of Germar production with your host, Jean Collins. Thank you for joining our house.