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A Transformational Approach to Personal Growth
This week on the House of JerMar Podcast, transformation coach Julie-Anne Lee challenges the very foundation of how we approach our problems, suggesting that if overthinking could have solved our issues, we'd have fixed them already.
In this illuminating conversation, Julie-Anne introduces a revolutionary concept: replacing self-reliance with universe reliance. She expertly articulates why we only need to know the next step on our journey, not the entire path. "You only get the next step when you take the first step," she explains, offering a liberating perspective for entrepreneurs and high-achievers trapped in analysis paralysis.
Julie-Anne shares her personal journey from skeptical observer to devoted transformation coach, highlighting a pivotal moment when she took a financial leap of faith that changed everything. Her story exemplifies the power of trusting inspired impulses over fear-based reasoning. Drawing from 20 years of coaching experience, she reveals how our energy—not just our words—communicates with the world around us, creating our reality from the inside out.
For those struggling with people-pleasing tendencies, Julie-Anne offers a powerful reframe that will change how you view your "nice" behaviors forever. She also shares practical daily practices like meditation and journaling that have transformed both her life and her clients' lives. Whether you're seeking better relationships, career clarity, or simply more inner peace, Julie-Anne's accessible coaching methods through her app, journals, and one-on-one services provide multiple entry points for transformation.
Ready to stop overthinking and start trusting the process? Listen now and discover how to let your authentic self emerge by taking inspired action.
Julie-Anne's book recommendation: The Game of Life and How to Play It - Florence Scovel Shinn
More about Julie-Anne Lee:
Julie-Anne Lee is a Certified Transformation Coach with over 20 years of experience empowering clients to move past self-doubt, overthinking, and feeling stuck—guiding them to embody their most secure, aligned selves and create a fulfilling life that truly speaks to them.
Whether through one-on-one coaching, dynamic workshops, or innovative tools like her ALLOW App and vision journals, she offers everything you need to transform from the inside out into the person you were always meant to be and really are.
Julie-Anne’s offerings.
1:1 Coaching: Personal coaching sessions for individualized support.
Allow Coaching Membership/App: Instant Guidance & Tools to get unstuck and in alignment: Anytime, Anywhere
Nightly and Morning Vision Journals: Available on Amazon with 3 easy daily steps to help you manifest your inspired desires.
Visit Julie-Anne's website & get her Free Daily Love Nudge here. www.julie-annelee.com
IG @Julieanne.lee
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Most of my clients are recovering overthinkers, if we're going to put a pin in it. They're entrepreneurs in spirit and they want to know the how and they're recovering overthinkers. So my first thing is like, okay, we're not going to think anymore, because if you had been able to think your way there, we would have done it already. Correct, can you agree with me on that? And so then it becomes about you really don't need to know the how. We want to know the bigger picture on how I'm going to get from here to there. And the truth of the matter is you only need to make the next step, and you only get the next step when you take the first step. And we never really know. Even when you feel like, oh, I kind of know how this is going to work out, you don't know that, you just think you know that and it calms you down. So that's where I really cultivate, instead of self-reliance, universe reliance.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the House of Jermar podcast, where wellness starts within. The House of Jermar is a lifestyle brand, empowering women to live all in through interior design and personal wellness. We are a destination for women ready to reimagine what is possible in their homes and lives and then create it. We are honored to have you join us on our mission to empower 1 million women to live all in. I am your host, jean Collins, and I invite you to become inspired by this week's guest.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the House of Jarmar podcast, where wellness starts within. I'm your host, jean Collins, and today's guest is Julianne Lee. She is a transformational coach and we are going to talk about some really incredible subjects that I really love, which is like inspired action. And how do you not just sit back and wait for the universe to deliver something for you? How do you do it? She's a coach, she works one-on-one, she has an app that you can get. She has so many interesting things that we can talk about. She is friends with Tara Laurie, so, those of you who are listening to this, tara Laurie was a podcast guest of mine several months ago and I just adore her. I think she is just a magical human being. So anybody who reaches out to me that says that they are a friend of Tara Laurie's, I was like you're on, there's got to be something really cool about you. So, julianne, it's so nice to meet you and thank you for coming on the show, thank you, thank you, it's an absolute joy to be here.
Speaker 1:It's really great, thank you.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for your time, and your website and your bio are super impressive. So your bio will be in the show notes for everybody so they can read all about it. But I always love to sharing what your career journey is, because we don't all start out one day when we're 18 years old saying I want to be a transformation coach and I want to work on inspired action and mindset and helping people manifest and create things, so share with everybody a little bit about your career journey and how you got to be the entrepreneur that you are now.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, yeah, no idea of what a coach even was. I mean for myself. I just had this. I never knew what I wanted to be when I grew up and it was so painful to me Like I, when someone knew what they wanted to be, I'd be like, why are you not doing it? Do you understand? Like you don't know what your passion is, you don't know what your purpose is. How could you know it? And you're not doing it? So that was just kind of who I was all the time. And I came over here to originally from Australia to Los Angeles and my thought at the time was I wanted to make movies and so I got into that industry a little bit and then I realized I was kind of just like coaching people. I did not was coaching actually.
Speaker 1:And then I actually heard of someone got told in the house with a life coach and I was so judgmental I was like life coach, life coach, like who the hell? How woo, woo ridiculous is that? Like you're going to tell people what to do? Like that's just, that's just crazy. And then so I've always been searching, you know, reading, you know from back in the day, Deepak Chopra and the Artist's Way, and all these things. I've always been really interested in that spiritual path. And one night I was like a friend told me to write, you know, a letter to the universe. So I led to the universe and back to the universe. What is what brings me joy and how do you want me to be of service in the world? And I was like blah blah blah blah life coach.
Speaker 1:And I'm like nothing, I'm really interested in it. Okay, next night, blah, blah, blah life coach. I'm like, oh my God, what is this life coach thing? Third night life coach. I'm like, okay. So I Googled life coach. This is 20 years ago now and just down the street I lived in West Hollywood at the time, just down the street, at this mystical like Bodhi tree bookstore, there was the IPEC Institute for Professional Empowerment Coaching was having a talk and I was like, well, I asked it's free, how do I not go? Right? So I go there and he talks and I'm like, oh, this is what I do. It was like spiritual it's.
Speaker 1:Life coaching isn't about telling people what to do. It's about the answers are in you and I get them out, which is what I was doing all the time. And at the time I mean I think back then it was like I want to say it was $8,000 and I was, you know, living, you know paycheck to paycheck, and I think I had a credit card with $8,000 on it. I can't even believe I did this that. I was like I signed up for this year course and it took a little minute right for a little crossover. Like I was like what do I do now?
Speaker 1:I went to a couple of networking groups and started coaching a couple of friends and and then it just kind of grew, you know, and and just sort of come to like 20 years later, you know. And, as you said, what's a transformation coach? Well, for me, a transformation coach is like you are this way and you know, then you become what you actually truly are, without all your fears and insecurities and lack of self-worth, basically. So you transform into the life that you're actually meant to be living, which you know, I have great experience in that. So it's kind of like how I got here, which is just all hilarious really when you look at it.
Speaker 2:Oh, but I love your story. You are not the first person that I've spoken to that has commented about making an investment in themselves and what they feel like is supposed to be their path when they feel like they can't afford it. And they do it anyway because something draws them to do it and to just figure it out. And I love that you shared that part of the story because it demonstrates that not only did you not have it all figured out like it wasn't, like you waited until you had this money, you jumped in. You jumped in with two feet and then we're like somehow it's going to work itself out. And I wonder if that helps attract clients to you because of your approach of that, instead of the, I'm going to wait until everything is all aligned and it feels like everything's ready.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. I think youth might've helped a little bit there as well. To be honest, I think that happens Like I've got friends and stuff right and we're like one just took off to travel around the world and she's, you know, mid-age and she's like, wow, I used to do this, I'm just a little bit more thoughtful of it, but she's doing it anyway. But if the regards to your question about you know, a lot of people and I will say most of my clients are recovering overthinkers, if we're going to put a pin in it. They're entrepreneurs in spirit and they want to know the how and they're recovering overthinkers. So my first thing is like okay, we're not going to think anymore, because if you had been able to think your way there, we would have done it already, correct? Can you agree with me on that? Of course, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:And so then it becomes about you really don't need to know the how. What we want to know is we want to know the bigger picture on how I'm going to get from here to there. And the truth of the matter is you only need to make the next step and you only get the next step when you take the first step. And we never really know, even when you feel like, oh, I kind of know how this is going to work out. You don't know that, you just think you know that and it calms you down. So that's where I really cultivate, instead of self-reliance, universe reliance, because that really calms people down when you increase your trust in yourself and I think of universes, like in your highest self, the extension of you, that's connected to all. So if you're tapping into that power, you might be able to relax that there's a better knowing of the next step. And so when you get inspired with that thought, before you talk yourself out of it right, before I talk myself out of it- what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2:Like how are you?
Speaker 1:going to pay back this $8,000? Like before, I was down on the table right, I trusted the impulse, yes and so, because I knew it was from faith. So I always do that gut check too. It's like there's the impulse. Is this faith or fear? It's faith, okay, do it, you know. So it just this taking leaps approach to life and then, as you accumulate the experience of it working out, you know your trust in your not needing to know definitely develops.
Speaker 2:But it's a practice ongoing practice oh, ongoing, yes, I can relate to so much of what you said, because I've done all of those things and having to trust myself is a constant exercise and I think so many entrepreneurs and especially female executives like overthinking is like the name of the game, you know. It's like we plot, we plan, we're type A, and it's like the universe is not type A. So it's learning how to not be that way is really where a coach like yourself is so helpful.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and because it is about action. Right, it's about action, but it's got to start with the thought and belief first, and that's most of our work, and that's why I call my app Allowing, because it's not about doing and making something happen, it's about letting it come through. You know, it's almost like I've got this one client I was working with and like things are unfolding so easily. She's like it feels weird for life to be so easy. Like I've thought and worried about so many things for so long that and I say this to clients I'm like when things start happening, you're so used to living in the wanting that having is weird, like it's strange. That's when you'll see people get into self-sabotage. It's like we're not practiced at having, we're practiced at wanting, so it's such a fun journey. It becomes a whole game really of life.
Speaker 2:Well, and we expect it to be hard. Yes, so if something is not hard, it feels weird, at least to me. If it's not hard and you don't have to work hard for it, then it feels weird, like okay, where's the catch?
Speaker 1:us. You know every which way and shape with the, you know the propensity and the pace at which the world is gaining momentum at, and you know, and so it's. It's really challenging to stay steadfast in. I'm enough, I do enough, and from that place, that point of attraction, that's your true power.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how do you help people? Cause you've mentioned this word and it's in your bio too self-doubt, which I think is a really big one for people. So if you wouldn't mind talking about, give us some examples of how you help people tackle self-doubt, and this is not a one and done session for all of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, wouldn't it be great if it was. I'm going to try to put it in a pill form and we'll mark it and we'll make millions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, wouldn't it be great though if it was, I'm going to try to put it in a pill form and we'll market it and we'll make millions. Right, wouldn't that be awesome. But give a little like a peek under the window. If I came to you and I said you know what my limiting belief is self-doubt how would you help someone like me?
Speaker 1:And it's interesting because self-doubt shows itself in everywhere, right? So self-doubt I think there's the biggest disease in the world. I call it LSE. It's low self-esteem, because it affects everything you do in your life and when you make choices from that, it never ends well. So self-doubt is like we talk about, whether it's in relationships you might come with regard to, you might come with self-doubt around finances, health, what your life purpose is, or just you know you want more inner calm and inner peace in your life purposes, or just you know you want more inner calm and inner peace in your life. So it becomes a process that I've been doing with clients, like I take them through a series of internal steps that I call whole life steps, basically to reset. So we actually go back and we look at what's the source like, where did this self-doubt come from? Because if we don't get back to the source and we get to the core issue and we re-perceive that from now as an adult and re-acclimate it, we can just do surface things, but if we don't change it at the core, it's always going to flip back. So it's very challenging work. You know some minds are like, oh, this is really challenging. I'm like, yes, it is, but in order to get the tree out we have to get the roots. We want substantial, consistent transformation and we don't want to have to come back and do this again.
Speaker 1:So if you're doubting yourself in relationships, for example, and you have a lot of women come and they may be looking for someone. They've had past experiences that aren't great, so they doubt that they can choose someone. They doubt that someone's out there that you know they can't have it all. There's just doubt across the board. And so we go to like where's that doubt come from? Like, why do you doubt that? And a lot of it stems to they think that they have to do it all. Like they think it's something outside of themselves that they need to get.
Speaker 1:Instead of what I do is I have another set of steps. I take clients through four relationships. Basically, it's the antithesis of what I do in relationships. I get them to the point where they don't actually need or want a relationship. They're so secure in themselves and they're vibrating at this empowered, beautiful relationship with themselves, doing what they love in their life, that in order for anyone to come into their life, they better add something of great value right. And now they're attracting from a place of wholeness, so they're not going to attract, mr Affirm my Self Doubt. They're not going to attract. Mr Affirm my Self-Doubt. They're not going to attract all these things that they previously had tracked.
Speaker 1:And that's one of the things I love working on with people, like relationships, because we think it's about the other person and in these steps there's like 20 steps, but only the first step is about other people. Yeah, that's it Right. Right, because it all comes in. So once you build that muscle right so it's a daily practice the self-doubt muscle has been built, it's been practiced, it's a thought that's been repeated, that became a belief, and so I'm learning that it takes a minute, you know. So we get to the core of it. How do we change that? And then what are the practices and new beliefs and then actions that we put into our daily basis until we catch up to actually, oh, that becomes our new belief. Now, sometimes it'll switch, you know, but it's usually a wobble dance where we're like, oh, it's new.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, oh, and that's where coaching comes in because we speak every week.
Speaker 1:So there's this accountability that you're going to get stuff done. I'm on your team, but I'm also going to be like I'm not going to let your self-doubt dictate your life anymore. You're going to come from that confident universe, connected self.
Speaker 2:Yes, which I like. Now you mentioned something else. You mentioned energy and kind of getting your vibrational energy to the right place. Talk about how important you feel that energy is and people tapping into their energy in terms of coaching.
Speaker 1:There is nothing more important. So if I could be a drug pusher, it would be called meditation. There is nothing more important. So if I could be a drug pusher, it would be called meditation. It would. I took this is what's funny because I would have been my worst client. I'm so like mm-hmm show me Mm-hmm, okay, mm-hmm. I was told to meditate. It took me 10 years to actually do it and it literally.
Speaker 1:You know people say what is meditation Like? Very simply, it's the practice of having a thought and letting it go. Having a thought and that's what meditation is and that allows your perception and your way of being in life to completely change. Like, my mind literally is not the same mind that I once had previously. So if and this is my belief everything in the world is a reflection of my internal state, energy is number one. I don't need to change anything on the outside world in order to feel okay.
Speaker 1:And that's where that inner peace and inner calm comes, because I'm in control of my responses. I'm in control of what goes on in between my ears. I'm in control of what goes on in between my ears and I believe that you know, it's a law of attraction universe. It's a like attracts, like universe. You know, even us speaking today and meeting Laurie and just these like-minded energies starting to draw together, you know, because that's where it's at and it's like I give people this example of how important energy is. You know, if you're out at a club, right, and you walk into the bar, you can immediately tell who's who, right. You're like oh, that one, he's out to blah, blah, blah or she's not really confident in herself. You don't even have a conversation. So we're walking around speaking to life, not with our words, but how we feel about ourselves. Yeah, and that's how much power we have. We don't have to change the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, I get so excited because I'm like you can literally change your whole life just by changing your relationship to yourself.
Speaker 2:Oh, I couldn't agree more. Yeah, it has to start from within. It is. It's super exciting and I think it's probably really exciting for your clients to see your passion Like. I can feel your energy rise as you start to talk about it and I would think it would be really hard for your clients to not want to be like Ooh, I want what are you drinking? Like. I want some of that, is that Red?
Speaker 1:Bull. What is that? That's going on?
Speaker 2:in here over there, because I kind of want some of that.
Speaker 1:What I love, too, is when they start to see the results in their lives. Right, either they'll leave a relationship or they'll get into a relationship. Or their finances start to rise up, or they feel like, oh my God, this is what my purpose is, and they get on that road Like everything syncs up just when they do this inner work yeah, and they take action, but you know we've got to take action.
Speaker 2:Yes, they have to take action. How do you help clients identify action? What is what?
Speaker 1:is action, well inspired action, so it usually comes up from within. So I, when I started, I was like talking about the letter to the universe. That's a massive tool about connecting to your higher self. It's so funny. I gave it to my sister the very first time. I'm like, okay, write a letter to the universe, she wants to know something. And I spoke to her a couple of days later. I go. So what did the universe say? She's like I'm still waiting. I go, I'm so sorry, I didn't make a click. You need to write the letter back.
Speaker 2:She's like oh, it's not like Santa Claus. He's not just going to deliver it the next morning Like poof on the counter.
Speaker 1:Yes. So it's like I mean, I love, you know, my clients are, they're doers, right, so they love to do a list, they love to do a thing. And it's like, okay, you know, write up your list, we'll brainstorm, we'll get all these tangibles, we'll ask the universe to guide us, and then it'll just present itself and I say, well, what's the first thing you can do? Like, if someone wants to get healthier right, it's not like I'm going to lose X amount of pounds. I come back to like, do we just need to start by drinking more water? Like, what's the first action you can take that points you in the direction of where you want to go?
Speaker 2:And it just will start to flow and come. You know and you mentioned something before that applies here recognizing your response to the question of what does the universe want from you as an instinctual response or a fear-based response, because there is a big difference and coaches like you can help people identify what really is the instinctual response, even though it might feel a little absurd to people. So they go back to what's the rational response.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is often fear based.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we always default to what's like. Well, I want to say it's this, but that sounds ridiculous. Like you know who am, I?
Speaker 1:Who am I to have it all? Who am I to think?
Speaker 2:that I could be a famous writer, like, okay, I'm not going to put that as my answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to give that internal torture to myself?
Speaker 2:Yes, Correct, but teaching people how to be able to listen to that is a true skill that people can really benefit from. Coaches like yourself to learn how to listen to that instinct and have enough, have gotten past enough self-doubt that you can get to the self-trust to be like, hmm, that's coming up, it's coming up again. It's coming up again.
Speaker 1:It's going to keep coming up until it smacks me in the face Every time. By the time people actually call me, like I'm already commending them on their courage, you know, because it's like you, you believe in yourself enough and your soul is like I'm done with whatever how things are, that I'm willing to put myself in an uncomfortable situation and get the guidance that I need, like I'm already like. So brave, right, they picked up the phone Right. Mission started.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So let's talk about your life a little bit, and I'm always curious about you know well, you mentioned meditation. But like, what does wellness mean in your life and how do you maintain balance and grounding? Because I think sometimes people think like, oh, she's a life coach, she's got it all going on, she doesn't have to work at anything, and you and I both know that's not true, yeah, so if you wouldn't mind share with people a little of the reality, of what you work on every day and what does your life look like and what are the things that you do that you suggest your clients try to do.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely Well, meditation is number one, you know, and it's not for me about doing it perfectly, it's like when you can get to it. You know, in an ideal world I wake up, I use my morning vision journal. Ideal world I wake up, I use my morning vision journal. Meditation is at the end of that Great get about my day. What it normally looks like is sleeping up. Are you out of bed? Kids, get in the car, let's go Right, and then I'll come back. And before clients start, I will do that. And it's actually funny because my clients, my clients, my children I have a 15 year old now and a 13 year old, so they're a little bit older, but when they were little too, they'd come to talk to the bedroom and they'd be like I'm meditating.
Speaker 2:Because I'm talking to her we can't talk to her now Like I'd be like listening to her.
Speaker 1:It's so funny, but it really is like for me, the wellness part of it has to be a priority, like it means sometimes I don't pick up the phone to a friend. Sometimes I don't pick up the phone to a friend, sometimes I just need to get that done, or I'll text them and be like I'll get back to you in a little bit, but I need to make time to connect to myself because I'm a single mom. I have two kids, I have a business, I have a dog and it could be a lot if I thought I had to do things perfectly, whereas it's like, you know, no, it's not. So it's like for me.
Speaker 1:I do a lot of writing because I find that writing things out really works for me, you know, and it's just yeah, I love it, and so that's really great. Lists are great, affirmations are great, you know, and it's really kind of like with clients. You know they're busy. I'm like, put your affirmations on your phone. Yeah, put them on a bit of paper by the toilet At some time during the day you're going to use the bathroom.
Speaker 2:Why not read your affirmations then?
Speaker 1:It really doesn't matter. Like do you?
Speaker 2:know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm like just incorporate it into your day Like you want this to be a way of being, it's sort of a lifestyle, as opposed to I'm going to pick this up and then I'm going to go do my life. It's like oh, how do I become this version of myself where I'm embodying it?
Speaker 2:You know perfectly said that this is a lifestyle, but it's not. You know which. I think for some people that's a challenge, because we live in a society that's a quick fix. People want to take a pill and lose 20 pounds and yeah in the world they do now, sometimes lose 20 pounds.
Speaker 2:And in the world of personal growth and inner development and really getting in touch with yourself and getting inner peace. There is no pill, it is not quick, and so it is baby steps to changing your lifestyle and changing your priorities. So I love that you said that because that's important. Priorities are so important, especially as women. It's impossible to be perfect at all of our roles. It is just an impossible goal. So why bother?
Speaker 1:Let yourself off the hook, stop it and I'm very quiet with clients. So I'm like if it makes you feel bad, don't do it and stop thinking it. And they're like, okay, oh, who am I to do that? And I'm like it's just start by making a small choice. I go, cause sometimes it's really uncomfortable for clients, right, when you've been a people pleaser, a lot of my clients are people pleasers, right, and I'm I give them the definition. I go actually people pleasing is really selfish. They're like, oh, and I'm like, no, because you're actually trying to make yourself feel better at the cost of another person. So it's actually you think you're being nice and you are, your intentions are good, but you're actually serving yourself, you know. So let's go to really serving yourself, which is really changing your relationship with yourself. So it's just, you know, really putting that practice in of catching your thought, turning your thought, you know, throughout the day, and sort of like, how do I be in charge of what I'm thinking now as opposed to what I'm thinking being in charge of me?
Speaker 2:Right, yes, yes, you're guiding your ship instead of being guided. And how much of what you do in your life and in your day are you doing the guiding?
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah. And how much are you listening to outside influence instead of yourself, when you are with you literally 24 hours a day? Yeah, you have not. What goes on between your ears? No one has privy to it, unless they're a mind reader.
Speaker 2:Most of the time, and even then your mind is talking all day long to you, so there's stuff going on all day, exactly so why wouldn't you make that conversation fantastic?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, and I do remember my thought, because clients, when they're people pleasers, it's very challenging them to think they don't even know what they want. I didn't know what my favorite color was. I was a people pleaser. I didn't know what do I like. Well, I don't know. What do you mean? Like I just what do you want? What do you want to have for lunch? Yes, Right, so I get them to start practicing family plans, whatever. Just say what you prefer. Yeah, just start like, if there's a choice, start listening to what you would prefer and choose what you prefer, and let's start building that muscle and get to know yourself Right.
Speaker 2:And getting comfortable in what makes you feel uncomfortable, because that's not your conditioned way of being yeah, so you have to move into it, and if someone's got an opinion exactly, and it's like you can give your preference and then someone else can give their preference.
Speaker 1:Then you have a conversation Like you're not stepping on someone's toes by giving your preference, and you know what's very interesting, though, too, when you have been a people pleaser all your life and you do start to make that change people around you. They don't like it because they're like oh, you normally do what I want you to do. That makes me feel good. Like what do you mean? You have an opinion, like it's uncomfortable a little bit.
Speaker 1:Some people will be your cheerleaders that are like, oh my God, finally. And then other people are like the way you agree to this relationship was you make me feel good, and so you. Sometimes, when you transform, you transform out of relationships.
Speaker 2:Yes, which I was just going to ask you that Do you find that a lot of your clients end up having to change some of their relationships or change their social circles as they transform into being more their true, authentic selves?
Speaker 1:100%, because the people you've attracted were attracted to that old version of yourself. Now there will be people in that friend group that will evolve and change with you. If they're not, it's not so much of like, well, I'm going to break up with you now. It's just, it becomes not a match and it'll fall away organically. It just is natural because it just doesn't behoove you. And then sometimes you're in the hallway and you're like I kind of feel like I'm on my own now universe.
Speaker 2:Kind of my buddies are all down there, don't?
Speaker 1:really see anything going on there. You just got to be comfortable and it changes, you know, in a minute. And then all of a sudden you meet these other like-minded people, still growing, but you've got, like this, the same sort of growth mindset I'll call it. You know, which is just so. Then, when you have a conversation with someone, you've got two people who are looking inward first before projecting their stuff onto you. Right, right, much more fun to live that way, so much better.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is, but it's also scary. I think, from the people that I've met, it is a terrifying journey to sign up for wanting to work with a transformational coach, knowing, knowing that life is going to change and you're going to change and your life is going to change and having the courage to recognize that, yes, that probably means some of the people, not everybody, but that means that some of the people in your life will probably need to phase out, but the good news is new people will phase in.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, yeah, and sometimes it betters the relationships. I've got clients that come that maybe were like and it's so funny, a couple of them were like I know I don't want to be with my marriage, but I'm never leaving because of fear. And a couple of years later we're like okay, so they've left. And they're like oh my God, because it's like neither of you were happy. But there's this construct or this belief system. They have to make it work. And it's like you know, if you really love someone, set them free, right, so give yourself that gift.
Speaker 1:But it was at the first like literally they'll be like and don't even tell me about leaving my husband, cause I'm not going to do it. I'm like okay, fine, that's where we're starting. I don't know, because I don't know what the end result. I don't have an agenda as a coach, right? I'm not like you should do this with life. I'm like let's discover what your authentic self and soul is calling and guiding you towards. You know I'll call BS when I know you're making up stories to yourself because it's uncomfortable. But you know, only you ultimately know what's your authentic. You know what resonates with you as you're calling and people say well, how do you know, and I'm like it's that old, it's like you know when.
Speaker 1:You know, you know when you don't know yeah, if you don't know, it's a no or not.
Speaker 2:Yet you know, yeah, and you probably do know. You're just not ready yet to face what you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's it's. It takes a lot of courage, you know. That's why I don't think coaching is for everybody. You know a lot of people I had the mistake of. I was in a relationship one time and I thought, you know, being the so nice person that I am, I thought of course you want to change and grow. And then I had the realization of like, oh no, you like your life how it is. I'm so sorry that I was thinking you should be X, y, z and reach your potential. Like, no, you get to do your life how you want to do it. I'm. You know I apologize because that's uncool of me to expect you to change, because that's my journey, that I want to be on that path and that's important.
Speaker 2:That's such an important point because it's the choice that we're making for ourselves and it's hard to not want to judge other people that don't want to be.
Speaker 1:Especially when you're right. I'm just joking.
Speaker 2:No, it's true, but it's like when you, when this is what you do for a living and you live in this space of coaching and personal development and self-growth, it's like sometimes I'm like what do you mean? You don't want to do some of like, how do you not want to be better? Like, really, you think you're perfect. It is hard not to judge that personally.
Speaker 1:And they want to stay in the problem. You know like, oh, you just like talking about the problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're right, some people that is that's their space or that's their space for now, and they haven't. They're not on the same journey and you have to respect them for that and kindly just have them stay on the outskirts of your life, because too much of that energy on you is actually not a positive either.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, absolutely Cool.
Speaker 2:So who are your ideal clients?
Speaker 1:I would say most of my clients are women and I do have a few men as well. Most of them are entrepreneurs, you know and really just sort of figuring out who they are. They're either wanting to figure out their life purpose they're either wanting to be in or change a relationship. They are. I would say the through line is, as I said, we're sort of coming from that people-pleasing, overthinking sort of do do, do want to figure it out, sort of mindset, instead of cultivating that faith and trust and slowing down and ease. And so I think it's just really, you know women who. They're just ready, they're ready to not give a BS anymore. They're ready to be who they really are. They're ready to just be like you know what I want to do life, like I've been doing the shoulds, you know, and I'm not happy, you know it's not fulfilling. You know and I'm not happy, you know it's not fulfilling. Is this it, you know? And so they're just like.
Speaker 2:They're ripe, ripe to be like I'm ready to do the work to to be me now do most people come to you and think I'll work with her for a couple months and then I'll be good, and then they stay for years and then they stay for years. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And some people ebb and flow, right, because it's like, as I said, you know, we are so used to wanting that when we get it like so people, we do all the work, they meet the fantastic relationship. They may go off for a bit and then they come back and they're like okay, now all my shit's coming up for real. I'm like, yeah, because you haven't been used to having right and so I have people that come and go. I've had people that. I've had a couple of people that have like pretty much been from the start. You know, because their life's constantly evolving and because they're a lot of them are entrepreneurs, I end up being like their silent business partner, right, because they're entrepreneurs. They may even have a couple of people working for them, but they can't talk about their worries, fears, stuff or business planning. Like we do business planning, we do tangible things as well. So it's like I've kind of like grown with their business but I'm kind of like their consultant guider, you know gut check, yeah, and also planner, you're the check-in.
Speaker 2:You're the check-in with someone that you know has their right intention and is in the right space to help with that gut check and can ask the right questions to uncover the right answers where that doesn't necessarily come from a spouse or a friend or a business partner.
Speaker 1:You're hitting on something really, really important about coaching, which makes coaching, as a coach yourself to you know. It stands out that everyone else in your life has an agenda, because what you do will affect them Totally. I love you, but it's not going to affect my life, yeah right, exactly, it's not.
Speaker 2:I love you, but I'm going to go on and go do my stuff. Totally. The call is over and I'm moving on. Yeah, I'm like next Love you to bits and pieces.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to be worried about whatever's going on later on how I am, and so when you're working with a coach, you get a bit like my agenda is your agenda, it's what's best for you because nothing affects me in your life, whereas you don't get like there's no real mom, dad, brother, sister, sibling, friend there in your life. Whatever you do is going to have an impact and if they say it's not, they're going to go.
Speaker 2:what's this going to mean for me, of course, or how is this going to make me feel about myself if you're doing this for you because we're still friends, and am I going to look at you and feel like I am doing nothing or I'm less, than because you're off doing all this work and building and growing? And it's such a different dynamic when you work with a coach. So let me ask you do you have a coach?
Speaker 1:for yourself. I do not currently have a coach for myself. I am a very big researcher, however, like I'm always evolving and researching and learning and reading, and I'm a systems person. So I love to go back to the 1900s and actually like if I was to say my coaches are, that would be like Louise Hay 1900s and actually like if I was to say my coaches are, that would be like Louise Hay, florence Scovushian you know I do love Esther Hicks. There's a new guy, basher, I listen to and then I have a couple of friends that we're on this same path. And, to be absolutely transparent too, laurie and I, like we, we have a meeting each week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like a business sort of accountability meeting so I could say technically we're coaching each other, so it's like, yeah, my life is set up in a way that sort of is fostering it constantly, you know. So I'm really grateful for that.
Speaker 2:And it goes back to your point about lifestyle, continual learning. I feel like for people that are in coaching, for people that are in spirituality, personal growth, trying to become their best selves, find their true self, have as much positive energy, attract what they want to attract, manifestation, all of those categories, people that are interested in those categories, there's continual learning and it's part of what we do every day, whether it be listening to a podcast or watching something on YouTube or reading a book or you know there's so much or just even spending time inward is part of that journey and is part of that work Constantly working on growing because it's not like, it's not a destination.
Speaker 2:You're not done.
Speaker 1:No, no no, there's never there. There's never there.
Speaker 2:There's never there. Yes, so for people who don't want to dive in with one-on-one coaching, I know you offer other ways that people can tap into you and your brilliance, so share a little bit about that, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have the journals, the morning vision journals for people that like to write. They're just simple three steps, you know, top of the morning, end of your day, you know check in, you get all ground is covered with that. And then I also have a coaching app, the Allow Coaching app, which I really love in that it has well, I think I'm going to change a little bit actually, because I want to make it even more proactive, where you get like a daily action and accountability and have it in a community. So you're actually, I'm in there, I'll give the action a day, and then you get to say done or not done, but not make it overwhelming, because I think we have so much going on, yeah. And so there's like trainings in there.
Speaker 1:There's all the tools I use in there, there's how to meditate in there, there's an audio book in there, there's a little mini course in there. There's lots of free stuff too, because I think, you're right, people don't know me like you want to get to know each other. And then I have like the pro allow membership, which is, you know, actually when people join the membership, I like to do a one-on-one call with them, because I'm not so much about you know, sort of about doing things differently. I'm not about getting these really big numbers and having X, y, z. I'm about connection, and so to have a 20 minute conversation with someone on the app before they jump in to working on the app, so we know each other. So when I'm talking to you in the app, we've already got a connection. Yes, and then for some people too, they want to continue to have coaching in the app.
Speaker 2:So I have the ProAllow membership where you can direct message me and voice note me and I'll get back to you within 24 hours.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool and help you, yeah, so it's kind of like me in your pocket a little bit. Yes, and it's a really great way for you to maybe get introduced to coaching with not a big investment, right, you know, because if you just want to be on the app, it's like $29 a month, and if you want a direct coach with me and it's only $59 a month, which is pretty reasonable yes, reasonable to get an actual human being.
Speaker 1:I'm a person. It's not an AI generated response. It's me sitting there. You might even hear my kids in the background as I leave a voice note. That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:But that's authentic and you kind of sometimes need that personal one-on-one touch and sometimes, just as you're thinking about things, it's great to have a human being that you know has your back and you can ask a question of or pose something to. That will get back to you quickly, that you know you're like. Okay, I align with that person's methodology, their way of thinking, their way of coaching, without having to be fully all in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that knows a little bit about you. Right, You're not just a number, You're not just a person and it's a bigger comment. But I really feel like we're and I love America, but we're a little about the more, more, more concept instead about the deeper, deeper, deeper connection ripple effect. So I might not need people, I think, have this idea of like you need to reach, like I might not need you know people, I think, have this idea of like you need to reach thousands of people and it's like or you have really solid transformation with a few people and that ripples out to the people they know, and then that ripples out to the people they know, and then that has impact, correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, well, I think a lot of women are craving connection in a variety of ways, and that looks different for everybody, but I think the theme of connection, especially for women at least all the women that I talk to and interact with there is a true desire to want to connect with more like-minded women while they're on their personal growth journey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and just to be seen right, because I think technology is great, right, it's like anything, it's great, depending on how you use it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:You know if you use it to compare yourself not so much fun.
Speaker 2:No, right, exactly how are you using social media?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Not great, but there's some really great stuff out there too. Great stuff, you know, like your podcast right? Yeah, Like there's great stuff. You know that's really helpful and beneficial. It's just where do you put your attention and you can't do it all, so you just pick a couple of pods that speak to you Right, exactly, and just listen to those.
Speaker 2:So what's on your bucket list for your future? Either personally or professionally, my future.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, I do want to take a trip to Paris. Since you asked, it's always been on my bucket list. Yes, I'd love to go there with my partner. That'd be fantastic. I really want to get this. You know my app. Really.
Speaker 1:It's got a few people on there, it's got my clients on there because I give it to them for free, but I'm like I haven't really promoted that, to be honest. So I'm like I should probably do that. I'm very good at making things. I make journals, I make these things. I'm not so good at putting myself out there and marketing. So that will probably be a growth opportunity for me. So this speaking to you is like my foray into this new version of myself, for getting comfortable, of putting myself out there. So thank you for that. Good for you, yeah, so I'm just, I'm just excited to, like you know, really walk the talk, you know, and be a demonstration of you know, follow your passion and and the money comes and the love comes and all that stuff comes. Like everything, your dream life is already within you, right, and it's just letting it, letting yourself match it.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know, and so the more people I can help do that. I'm just like okay, life is good, Life is done, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, I'm going to read a quote of something that you sent to me, which is you don't get what you want, you get what you are.
Speaker 1:And I thought that was so powerful, I thought that was really great.
Speaker 2:That summarizes what you do really really well, Thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So thank you for that. So before we go, I love to ask my guests to recommend a book that has impacted them personally or professionally, and you and I didn't talk about this in advance, so hopefully it's okay that I asked that question. I forgot to remind you but I feel like books change lives and there's a lot people can learn from just spending 25 or $20 on a book and reading a book and really learning from someone else's wisdom and experience. So is there a book that you would like to recommend?
Speaker 1:I'm going to share what it is anyway, and then I'll catch up whatever. So this book was written today, a hundred years ago it is, yeah, a hundred years ago by a woman, self-published back in 1925, called the Game of Life and how to Play it. I knew you were going to say that Florence Scovel Shenton.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now I feel like I'm like airing on a bit of self-promotion. I am a little bit because that book I give to every client. When we start I'm going okay, this is your first step, you're going to read this book, and what happened was hers was very religious, a lot of religious connotations and stuff. So connotations and stuff. So because it was public domain, I went in and changed it all to universe Good, and I changed all the male pronouns to neutral because it was all he, he, he. And I'm like, okay, my smoke glands are female, so I took all the religious stuff out, I took all the male pronouns out, and then I summarized her because she never really put it into steps, so I summarized them in the back. So, and I call it the universe version I wrote that book and rewrote that book, edited.
Speaker 1:I should say she wrote the book, edited that book. So many times I will still open up that book and be like what is that? Like that's, it's like this magical little haven that she did and I just am so blown away that she self-published it a hundred years ago.
Speaker 2:A hundred years ago. It is a 1925. It is truly, and it's a tiny little read, it's tiny and it's not that well written.
Speaker 1:Bless the cotton socks, it's really not. I'm like this is not a literature, this is not. This is like take what you want and leave the rest. It's bare bones. It's just to the point and some of the examples are old school, but the message it's and I say this to people all the time I go it's all the same stuff. People are just saying it in different ways and whichever way speaks to you, that's great and you can't hear it enough times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love her. However, it resonates and you go back again and again and again. Yes, that's a good one. Thank you so much Before we jump off, is there anything that you wanted to communicate? Wanted to say that I did not specifically ask you Because I want to make sure all my guests get the chance to talk about everything they want to talk about, even if I miss the opportunity to ask.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people in this industry and you might feel pressured to do X, y, z, but I think, like yourself and myself, like when I say we'll have a 20 minute call, it's not a sales pitch. It's like get something out of the call. If it's a value to you and you want to get on the app and you want to work together, that's great. But I'm not about selling. It's got to be a match on both ends. So don't let your head talk yourself out of things because of fear, of you know of, I'm going to be put in a position where I might, you know, be uncomfortable. It's like it's just about if something's for you, it's for you, and if it's not for you, then something else will be.
Speaker 1:But you took a first step, you know. So I guess that's the only thing is like just with coaching. It's like there's, you know, been at this for 20 years now. It's like it's a long time and it's evolved so much. It's so interesting to see how it's going and just it is really beautiful that it's become like it's not a weird word anymore anymore. Yes, like, like coach is not a strange word. Like actually, like manifest is not a strange word anymore.
Speaker 2:No, no, universe is an okay term, weird yeah universe is like we're not.
Speaker 1:We're met with a not as opposed to woo, woo. What's she? Talking about Yep.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, but thank you. You've covered more than all bases.
Speaker 2:This has just been an absolute joy, oh, my pleasure to have you on, and you said something that's so important and I want to make sure we end with this, which was to summarize one of the things you said. It was really, if something piques your interest, be curious and look at it a little bit deeper. And so if something on today's call piqued your interest, then go and follow Julianne and go set up the 20-minute call, and she might not be the right coach for you or her platform might not be right, but you are expressing an interest in looking inward and doing the work and doing the journey work and I think for all of us as coaches, that is the number one thing we want and it's most important that you find the right coach and find the right modality for you. But just taking that step to be like I'm taking an awareness that I'm interested and lean into that, because that is the universe talking to you. So, thank you, we will stay in touch. I hope to see everybody next week.
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