Tracking the Cats
Wide ranging discussion of Western Carolina University athletics hosted by long time alumni and supporters, Bob Sabin & Steve White.
Tracking the Cats
Todd Raleigh Talks about Cal Raleigh, WCU Baseball, and More - Tracking the Cats
Welcome to Tracking the Cats. I'm Bob Saban, along with my co-host Steve White. And tracking the Cats is a biweekly podcast that does everything cat amounts. And, uh, today we've got a special guest with us, but, uh, first.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:We are brought to you by Stanbury Insurance. They now have four offices. They're based in Silva Plus Highlands Waynesville, and next door in the nice little town of Clyde for all your insurance needs. That's Stanbury Insurance today. We are glad to have on the show. This is a first time guest. He is known in two ways around colory. The first way is former baseball coach, very successful baseball coach for a few years at Western Carolina. We were thrilled to have him and hated to lose him. But now he's got a son who's making it big in the majors. Cal Raleigh and the They're up against the Detroit Tigers leading two games to one, and we've got the fourth game coming up at three o'clock this afternoon. Todd, tell us a little bit about who you are and where you are with things.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:mean you know, I'm a former player and a coach at Western. I got to Western in, in the fall of 87. Played for Coach Legge and then you know, had some success as a player there winning some championships. And went on to to sign with the Red Sox, a free agent contract. And, and, you know, briefly after that, got back into coaching with, with Keith LeClaire, a former teammate of mine and assistant coach under Coach Leggett. know, I got into coaching and went to James Madison. I went to East Carolina, came back to Western Carolina to be a head coach from 2000, 2007. Then I went to the University of Tennessee. And you know, after that, kind of been just kind of an entrepreneur and, and doing some things. Mostly tracking my kids these days. Know, not just
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Yeah.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:four. So so I stay busy, stay on the road a lot.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:That's great. I came over to Knoxville to see us play When you were, when you were there, Steve.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:I'm here. I, I'll give you a little more background.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Okay.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:was didn't go into a whole lot of detail there about his career here. Was a three time all Southern Conference catcher here at Western Carolina. Can you believe that A Raleigh guy is a catcher with that name? It's, it's unbelievable. started 19 88, 89, 90, 91 Seasons for the Catal. Twice led the. Southern Conference in rbis in 91 and 92 that 90 and 91 the Southern Conference in triples one year. Now you think with a guy that his size, that that would be a, that'd be quite a feat. And so forth in 1990, set WCU record for rbis in 1991, 78, which stayed up there, I think is still ranked third all time for Western Carolina. part of two Southern Conference championship teams as a player, as he, as he said earlier, signed with the Boston Red Sox twice Southern Conference coach of the year in 2002, 2007. North Carolina Baseball Coaches Association coach of the Year in 2003, coaching victories at Western, which is at the time when he left was second to Jack Leggett. 2003 regular season and Southern Conference Tournament Champions went. We original runner up down in Wilson when NC State hosted it in 2003 and the same thing again in 2007 in chapel Hill. 14 players drafted by the Major League baseball. Three of those guys became. Major league players. So that's a little bit about his background and so forth. So.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:So, so apparently you came to Colory from the northern reaches of Vermont, not too far from another school called the Catamounts University of Vermont. Fortunately for us, they don't have a football team, so we're the only Catamount football. Team tell me how did you end up in Callie from that trip?
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:short you know, I was one of seven children and my oldest brother John, was the baseball player in the state of Vermont, and Coach Leggett was the head coach, university of Vermont at that time. And he kind of recruited my brother and we kind of got to know him as a family. My brother ended up going to Central Florida, unfortunately, got really really sick his freshman year of college and and spent some time in the hospital and, and Coach Leggett would still go see him in the hospital even though he didn't go to his school. And,
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:No.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:my brother lost the Battle of Cancer about a year after that. But, we had that connection with Coach Legget and then. When I became that age you know, I was in eighth grade at that time, but, you know, I became a senior. I wanted to go play south. That's all I knew. I didn't have any offers or anything, so I literally took out a typewriter and type coach. I get no internet back then, no cell phone. So started it and he said, yeah, come on down. I'll, I'll give you six weeks to make the team. So I said, heck with it, I'll do it. And that's what I did. And best decision ever made.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:I'll tell you another
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Very cool.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:you talk about, you know, being that close to the Canadian border, hockey is very, very big in that part of the country. And I know you and Matt both were hockey players, high school hockey players. Tell us a little bit about playing hockey in in Wan, Vermont.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Well, we did grow up on the border literally three miles from our house was the border and our family farm.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Wow.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:That it was in my mom's side, my grandfather's farm. bordered Canada. So the power lines ran through it to the right was Canada, to the left was the farm, the dairy farm. So we were close in that. So yeah, so really the first, the first I played of any sport was hockey, organized, probably age five, I guess, and started playing hockey. And as I got older, I transferred into basketball for. was we had a lot of boys playing, so I ended up, but Matt continued to play. I I went to basketball route, but he continued to play high school hockey as, as my brother David did as well. And me and John played basketball. But it was great you know, except when we played the Canadian team, so we could literally go. Five miles over the border and they would just smoke us every single time. We had no chance. And then conversely, when we played'em in baseball, they had no chance. So it's weird that five miles or even 10 miles could separate the world of how much better they were. Obviously that's their focus. And baseball was ours, but I don't know. Hockey's pretty big where I grew up, obviously, and I was less than an hour to Montreal. So kind of was an Expo fan growing up too, a little bit.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:Todd, Todd, your younger
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Nice. Nice.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:you to Western Carolina a year after you got here and, he put up some phenomenal numbers. Three time All Southern Conference. Southern Conference Player of the Year in 1992 when we went to the regional finals there at Florida State.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Yes.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:set WCU and Southern Conference Records for Hits home runs, runs, total bases, rbis just lots of records for your younger brother there. And on, on the Southern conferences hundredth anniversary baseball team. Was there ever any sibling rivalry there? I I, I don't know if I want to ask that question or not.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Well, yeah, it's always been there. Yeah, we, we were you know, our whole family's very competitive and me and Matt certainly were. So we, we had, whether it was, i, I can't even, you know, you name it, even playing tennis or Wiffle Ball or whatever it was, it was Al Brawl. Mostly when we became teammates here, obviously that it, you know, we were glad to be on the same team, so there's no really rivalry here. But growing up we had they still say little league game played in our town. They wouldn't let us play on the same team, even though that's a little league world. They said no. So my oldest brother, John, who I was talking about before, was the umpire, we played a Lu league game and we both struck out 17. We both hit a home, run off each other, ended one, one'cause the darkness because we didn't have lights. And yeah, it's a true story. It was in the paper. And so we wanted, as soon as we got home, we're like, just go finish in the backyard. We had a hawing net that we set up and that would be the strike zone. we throw to each other from, you know, a set distance and if you hit it over the fence, it is a home run. So I'm pretty sure I came out on top, but he remembers it. He remembers it differently that night. But we had some rivalries of course. Yes.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:There was no giant dog in the neighbor's house on the other side of the fence was there.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:yeah, no, I hear you on that. Yeah, we lost a few balls. We did have an elderly lady that would confiscate our balls and not give them back to us. But well, but it was no dog, thank goodness.'cause we did try to sneak over, but yeah, she wasn't giving back to us.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Well, the color we in Western Carolina particularly back in the late 19 hundreds, early two thousands, Jack Legget, Rodney Hen and Keith LeClaire you, what is it like to think back on such legendary, all, all you, y'all are hall of Fame folks? What, what's it like having that kinda legacy here at Western?
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:I mean, first and foremost, you know, I, I played with Keith and Rodney and I played un, you know, for Coach Leggett. And I coached with a little bit actually with Rodney and Keith as well at East Carolina and here. So they're all tremendous people. I think that's a common denominator. You know, tremendous friends. And just to be part of that baseball family that we have at Western is very special. It's always been special to me. I feel like I was just, you know, just another piece in it. Obviously Coach Legget set the foundation. You know, Keith certainly took that and ran with it and as did Rodney. And it's great to know that you're in that kind of club and I've always had, know, the most respect for those guys along the way. Being a Western guy, it means more always has. You coach somewhere, it's great, but when you play somewhere and you coach somewhere, it, it just means a little bit more. Always has Western was the best times I've ever had as a player and as a coach. So many memories there. It's hard to even start thinking about all the ones I had as, as a player, as assistant, and as the head coach.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:Well talk about these days in the late eighties. Todd, and by the way, I talked to Coach Legett this morning and he said, just say tell savvy hi for me. He now, Jack Legett had a nickname for everybody
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:They did.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:believe me, and.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Everybody.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:Yeah. And and Todd was savvy, S-A-V-V-Y, savvy, and that's because of his I think his baseball intelligence, his savviness about the game. But talk about those days when Western Carolina became the dominant team in the Southern Conference, baseball world and then returning in 2000 to take over the program. Lots of great memories and just moments for you. As both as a player and a coach, but talk about the program at that time when you came in and, and of course was all part of that just dominating situation. Yep.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Yeah, when I came here as a freshman. they were rolling, they were rolling downhill fast. They had won three consecutive Southern conference championships in baseball. And of course we won the next two years as well. And, you know, we were top of the food chain. That's all there was to it. I mean, you know, I, I believe in I'm, why do you know it's more than all of us. But App State was on quite a run before Coach Luge got to Colory and was certainly the dominant team. I can't tell you how many championships, but. They're winning more often than, than not. And they kind of, you know, kind of flip, flipped that around and turned the corner. And know, we put a great schedule every year. You know, coach Laga was literally a one man coaching staff, which is just seems impossible to me trying to coach the pitchers, you know, trying to coach the hitters, the base runners, you know, driving the bus. So there was a lot. It, it seemed like the wild west a little bit
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Yeah.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:But it seemed like baseball was really pure. It was great. And like I said, some of the best times of my life. Great experiences and, you know, going to regionals and just playing that kind of schedule. Played a great schedule here at Western all the time and that always paid, given dividends for us down the road.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:Bob, before you ask your next question there, I wanted to tell you, talking
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Sure.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:coach, being a one man coaching staff. Now he tells me that Todd actually was the pitching coach. That he worked those pitchers, made the calls, ran the ball game for him as far as the pitchers were concerned, and similar, I think what's going on in Seattle right now with with Cal from what I understand, what I read and what I hear and everything that he sort of runs the, pitching staff there at at Seattle, but Bob, back to you now.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Yeah. So you mentioned things changing and, you know, we think about the NCAA across the board and all the changes that are happening with the court cases and portals and paying players. Tell me your thoughts on, on what's going on with college sports, but baseball in particular because it has had a special effect on baseball with the number of people on scholarship and things.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:it, it's deep, right, Bob? I mean, there's a of stuff going on. I, I, I think maybe when it started especially with the scholarship, baseball's always been the least funded sport in the ncaa you know, according to roster limits you know, 11.7 for the last 30, 30 years I think was the scholarship limit. And you know, when you have 35 guys, even before that, it was 40. And you're, you're signing kid, even though it's at Tennessee, we're signing kids that are going to go in the first round. We're giving'em 40% outta state, and then, then he is waiting for a million dollars, you know, from the, from the pro team. Hard to talk a kid out of that. And I, and I know the SEC voted for unlimited scholarships every year. I was there. I know every, all the power conferences did, which was, was never gonna pass because the president's. division one school had a vote and, and some schools just can't do that. A lot of'em can't. So I, I like the intent there, but where we're gone now, I, I just, it's, it's outta control. I don't know if it's sustainable. You know, Western, take a school like Western, you know, coach Beck gets a player in does really good. just kinda recruit'em and take'em, you know? Same in football. And you know, the best predictor of success is previous success. They don't care how good of a high school player you are. If you are had success at division one level, they're gonna go and go ahead and recruit that. So Western can recruit'em, develop'em, weight room, on the field, everything, and just lose them. I, I don't love it at all. I think they gotta do something with the portal. Just can't be that open market all the time. So I, I do see some changes coming down. Again, the scholarship limit, I get it, but how's the school? Like Western, never gonna have full scholarships, you know, 30 or whatever they have. It's just not gonna happen. So you'd like to think they're a little more equity, but the irony, here's the irony that happened last year. First time I think is everybody thought when we opened this up and, and gave kids money, not only full rides, but. Cars and, and, and you know,$50,000 a year, a hundred thousand dollars a year that it would shift. It didn't really shift what they found, they found out. If you ask, look at all the upsets last year, Texas getting knocked off at home. Vanderbilt getting knocked off at home. A lot of big schools got knocked off last year mid-majors. But what they found out, because of all the new rules, the JUCO rule, you can play now five, six, and I know there's court cases right now. They say you wanna play division two for four, JUCO for two, you should be able to play division one for four. She's looking at 10 years. Now, that passes or not, I dunno, but I do know there's an active court case with that. But the kids were older. That's what happened last year in the regional. So now when you're taking these kids, because of the COVID, because of all the red shirts, because of new rules,
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Yep.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:finding these schools coming in and all of a sudden everybody's 23, 24, and. The schools that had all the money and all the big recruits. Really, when you get 23, 24, it kind of meshes more together. It's not a gap in the talent level and learn how to play baseball. So I kind of evened it out a little bit. I don't think anybody saw that coming. And that has nothing to do with, with the portal or anything like that, but kind of where the state of, of college baseball is. I think it's a great game. I think the college game's a great game. It's a little different in the program. But that's good. You don't want to be the same. And you know, I think it's great. I just, I just, I just don't know how the modern day coaches can just, know, tough when you can build a roster and do a great job and then somebody just comes in and takes it away. It just, it doesn't seem right to me. I know kids should have choices on where they go, but it's gotta be something like a, maybe a one time or, you know, one time a
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Yep.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:don't, I don't have all those answers, but it, it, to me, it doesn't seem sustainable.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:And, and my pet peeve is when it comes to the playoffs, how we saw how the mid-majors performed in the playoffs last year. And yet, you know, Southern Conference from here on out, it's only gonna get one. Doesn't matter how good that second place team is, or that they were the regular season champ, but they couldn't pull through the tournament. The NCAA is giving you know, six. Eight to an SEC team, six eight to big 10, PAC 12, whatever it is now that's frustrating to.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:it is. Know, the RPI and, and what comes with it is, is tough. And here's the inner lining to that. W when you have, you may not be able to go through your regionals like they thought they would, but by having the, the deeper rosters, it really helps you midweek. And when you're help midweek, you're gonna have better records. It's gonna help your RPII see that happening. Maybe more so than just that big dominant team. You know, I think my last year at Western, I believe we're the last at large team in Southern Conference baseball in oh seven. We did not win the tournament, but you know, we were ranked in the top 20 and, and gotten that large, and I don't think they've had one since. Why do you would know?
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:You're right. One time we had as many couple years, we had as many as three,
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:We
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:but.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:three, I think twice. Yeah, I had once, I believe one, we
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Yep.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:when I was coaching with Keith Le Clare there, his assistant. And my last year there, we also had three different teams, though. We had George Southern College. Charleston good, Elon was really good, and Citadel was still on top of their game. And you had AB state who really wasn't that good then, but still was, was good. And, but you're right, Bob. I, I don't, I, I. It seems like you're, I would like to see more teams get in, at least have a chance. It doesn't seem like that's happening in any conferences anymore. Know, they, they start, you know, they start pleading in, in the beginning of April. Oh, we should have 12, 13 teams from the SEC, whatever. I, I, I don't know. When you look at some of the teams that get in, they didn't really do very well. Well,'em took Owen two that were, you know, teams that I probably didn't think should have got in. But we know who drives the bus and, i'm with you on that. I think it's better for college baseball to have more regional across the country instead of centered in, you know, one particular geographic location. I think it's good for the game. I think it grow the game.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:Yeah. Well, co-chair you're out of coaching on the collegiate level now and, and a businessman. Not really out of coaching though, as you've had two sons that have received and will continue to receive your tutelage your advice, your guidance unless viewers are living under a rock. They know about your oldest son, Cal who should be American League's most valuable player. In a few weeks after the World Series, he'll be announced he's a gold glove catcher, home run, derby champ, first catcher to ever hit 60 home runs in the season, and recognized leader of the Seattle Mariners. Talk about your role in his development.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Well, I mean, yeah, I, I, I am his coach. Still, I think it goes way back to him cutting his teeth here in Colway as being the bat boy and me why am I why am I making this lineup? Why wouldn't this guy here and there? So he's always been very inquisitive and intuitive at the same time. But yeah, we've always had a great relationship. I know. when you're coaching a kid, things can get, you know, sideways. But we've never had that here. And you know, just started teaching'em really young and we, we built a bond, not just the coaching bond, but the father bond and you know, every step of the way I've been there. You know, and that was a big reason why I didn't get back into coaching. I wanted to be with my family more. I think it was a great decision I made. I had opportunities to get into college game and the pro game. But decided to take a different route and you know, I was able to see Cal play at Florida State and, and not miss hardly any games. And you know, a lot of bumps in the road. I mean, people see the polished, person and player that he is right now, but, you know, it's a hard, baseball's a hard game. There's a lot of grind for him along the way. I feel like I've, I've been there for him and the good and the bad. I pick him up when he needs it, know, kick him in the butt sometimes too. Still have to do that on occasion. But you know, he is getting to be a man now. And so yeah, so I, I still be still his coach. I mean, you know, still talk about his swing. We'll still talk about situations and, and now for us it's more about, know, a lot of the leadership things and how to be a leader and, and how to lead by example and how, you know, to help your clubhouse and just stuff like that. And he has, he has other people he talks to too. He bends the ear of guys like Derek Jeter and stuff like that. So guys who've been there. So when you get to that level, you have a lot of access. So I continue here just to be support for him and, and obviously I, I, you know, t his little brother, I'm, I'm actively coaching right now. and that that's full-time too, so I'm never out of it. I promise you. I am coaching, there's a lot of BP thrown every day, a lot of fungos hitting a lot of coaching every week of the year.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Well, speaking of tea I, everybody that knows me and I live in Atlanta all my buds know I am a huge Western Carolina fan. So it was a, a, a real charge for me to be watching the home run Derby and tell my buds, Hey, hey, I know, I know these guys and. They're from Western and so, but t Todd Jr. Is another catcher coming up. He was catching for you at the home run Derby when you were pitching to Cal. Tell us a little bit more about him.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:He's six three taller than Cal is already he's a switch hitting catcher. Plays in Atlanta on a travel team goes to Raven Gap for high school, which is also in Georgia. And yeah, just like Cal played in Atlanta every weekend, you know, made that three hour up, three hour back I think 7,200 times, I think. And it's what? It's, and still doing it. And TI mean, listen, t's got a chance. I mean, he's grown up around it just like Cal. We have our own facility here at our house, so we get a lot of work in that way. He's also, the Cal had the opportunity to grow on the bus by, we're playing Georgia Tech. Cal would be on the bus even when he was seven or eight or nine, you know, or if we're playing somewhere or every day. Cal, the actually Callie Valley School would, would drop him off at the baseball field for it. So he'd get on the bus. Which is only, what, I mean, two, five irons, well, probably four drivers for whitey, but 2, 2 5 irons
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:I resemble that remark.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Colway valley's really close, but they would drive, they would, the bus driver would take in, pull all the way in. To the baseball field at Western and, and Cal would get out. He has his little practice gear already stacked in the dugout and he would change and go at it. Tee's grown up in the, in the big world the big league clubhouse. Often he'll go to a park early with Cal, hit with him, in the cages underneath, sometimes get on the field, work out with'em, whether it be in Atlanta, done that a couple of times, whether it be in Detroit, wherever. So they both had advantages for sure. Now t certainly has, he has a lot of tools. He's very, very developed right now defensively. He's a big body kid. He can hit with power. But you know, it comes down to work ethic and putting that time in, and I think he'll do it. So I don't want to put any pressure on him, but he is getting a lot of looks across the country right now for a 15-year-old. So he is, he's not unknown. And of course, the derby, put his popularity through the roof with just crazy how many people, like we were in Seattle this weekend and every time I turned around he was signing another autograph, taking pictures, and I'm like, come on now, let's stop this. But he is he is pretty popular right now, but certainly has the advantages not just to lean on me, but lean on his brother. And Cal, they're very close. The age difference Cal's, I, I think he's 28, T'S 15, so a big gap there. But they're tight. They're tight, like they're only one year apart. So they t will, t will call upon Cal when he has questions about baseball. And of course Cal, you know, t has the most catching gear of anybody in the world right now. He has probably about the same size. He literally has 30 sets of gear and all got his name on. And the umpires in East Cob are always like. what is, what is going on Yesterday you had this on, you got your name on it, how much are you spending on it? And tease says they don't all, they don't know, you know, that there's brothers, cows, customized so, tells them like, oh, I get it now. So, so Tesa had some advantages.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Hopefully coach Beck's building a good relationship'cause I'd love to see him in purple in a couple of years.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:part for sure. Yeah. Coach knows him. Don't worry. they, they know each other pretty good actually. T's good friends with East and, you know, coach Beck's oldest son, so they, they're, and t goes down the field. Of course, my nephew Brody is playing for Western County right now, you know, Matt's son. So yeah, so we're, we're, he's down there quite a bit.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:Before we get in trouble here and so forth talking about the athletic ability of tea and, and cow and so forth. Don't give Todd all the credit now. Their mother, Stephanie was a great athlete at Old Silver Webster High School, his two sisters. Emma and Carly were a great high school, you know, award-winning players and now played on the collegiate level. So it's not just, not all. Todd, we gotta give Stephanie some credit for that athletic ability.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Right. doubt. I mean, yeah, it takes I don't know where the kids get their height from. Like I tell everybody, it must have been a mailman. At least it's the same mailman. I know, but my girls, yeah, they have gone on and played and one's still playing. And Emma went to Bradley and played and set a division one record for most digs in one college game in division one. So, yeah, so my girls are too, it's just not as you know, there's really no professional volleyball, so you don't hear much about it, but as equally proud of them as, as the boys for sure.
squadcaster-7g04_1_10-08-2025_125516:And Bob, I want to tell everybody about this too. Now I know Sports Illustrated, it's only print once a month. Now they do have digital issues, but there was a heck of a story came out last month. It's called Glute Force, and this is all about. Cal Riley, impact in Seattle, what he means to that town, what he means to that team, and goes into the personal part, the detail, not just the home runs, but everything about him and why he is special. And if you get a chance, I don't know where you can get copy because they, I don't think they're on the news stand anymore, but you can go online and find it somewhere. But a great article there by Sports Illustrated, and that's an honor in itself to be recognized by Sports Illustrated.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:Yeah. Yeah. Well, coach it's been great having you on here today. We really appreciate your time. Great stories great learning about the family and you know, let's continue the Catamount tradition with Raleigh's and Base.
squadcaster-7211_1_10-08-2025_125516:Appreciate you guys. Thank you very much.
bob-sabin_1_10-08-2025_125519:All right. That about wraps it for this edition of Tracking the Cats. Brought to you by Stanbury Insurance Silva, Waynesville, Clyde and Highlands, and we'll see y'all again in two weeks.
